The Jeremy Kyle Show (20 March 2018)

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The Jeremy Kyle Show (20 March 2018)
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00:00You're watching On Demand. Please check the closing time before trying to vote or enter any competition or other interactivity in this programme, as it may not count and you may still be charged.
00:10On today's show...
00:12This is a young lady by the name of Amy coming on this show. She's got some confession.
00:16Apparently a guy called Michael, who's in a relationship with a girl called Katie, is begging her for sex.
00:22I slept with him. I didn't know they were all together.
00:25I can't even believe you.
00:27You told me to go and tell Lizzie you were in love with him.
00:29Saying that you wanted to be with him.
00:32Amy, I want you to shout in my head.
00:34I'm shouting at you because you started messaging me.
00:37Will you shut the hell up?
00:39I made you shut up and I'm going to make you shut the hell up.
00:43We asked Amy if you had sexual intercourse with Michael in the last two years.
00:47You said yes. Why did you say yes?
00:49I was telling Lizzie.
00:52Go back to whatever corner you come from.
00:58He said that you're a male prostitute with sugar daddy.
01:00You have no right to reply.
01:02That's in the past, Jeff.
01:03You are a gobby little...
01:05You should have taken mum's place.
01:10I hope it comes back to you ain't my brother.
01:22APPLAUSE
01:34Hello, my friends. Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:36My first guest today, Amy, is here to expose Michael,
01:39a man she describes as, frankly, a love rat.
01:43She says this Michael messages her constantly behind his girlfriend Katie's back,
01:47asking to meet up and basically begs her for sex.
01:51But that's not all. She made another confession last night,
01:53something she wants to tell me about right now, before the show.
01:55So we're going to go backstage.
01:57So this is a young lady by the name of Amy, 23,
02:00who's coming on this show.
02:01She's got some confession.
02:03Apparently a guy called Michael,
02:05who's in a relationship with a girl called Katie,
02:07is begging her for sex.
02:09Just a general morning on the Jeremy Carl Show. How are you?
02:11Hello, Jeremy. You all right?
02:12Amy, welcome to the show.
02:14I'll prove I had sex with you behind your girlfriend's back.
02:17Yeah.
02:18Let me ask you a question.
02:19So you're here today to prove that you had sex with Michael,
02:21who's going out with Katie.
02:22What sort of woman wants to come on a television show
02:24and prove the fact that she allowed her boyfriend to cheat?
02:26Because that makes you as bad as him.
02:28Yeah, but basically, at the end of the day,
02:31I slept with him. I didn't know they were together.
02:34Oh, they were single.
02:35He told me that he wasn't with her anymore, so...
02:37Are you doing this for her or are you doing this for your own...
02:39I'm doing this for her because she has an absolute moat to take him back after.
02:42He's already done it twice.
02:44You say he's a scruffy, dirty tramp
02:46who needs to own up to the fact that he's a serial treater.
02:48I was never attracted to him, I just used him for sex.
02:51How was the sex with grubby Michael?
02:54All right. I've had better.
02:58Interestingly, probably the first time in quite a while,
03:00you're on the Jeremy Carr Show, take a lie detector
03:02to prove that you did sleep with Michael.
03:04If you're telling me the truth and it proves that he's a cheat,
03:06do you think this Katie girl's going to wise up or what?
03:08Well, that's what I'm saying. I think she'll take him back,
03:10which is why I'm so cross, because I think she's just wasting your time.
03:13But why would she not do that? Why would you come here?
03:15Why would you care about her?
03:16Why don't you care more about your own dignity?
03:18She was my friend at the end of the day.
03:19She was your mate. So you slept with your mate's boyfriend,
03:21but you say, I didn't know. Come with me, this is all kicking off.
03:23Come with me. Come with me. Come, come, come, quick.
03:26What's going on out here? Who have we got now?
03:37Who are you?
03:38I'm his girlfriend, so I'm your mate.
03:40You turn around and say, as I say, I'm your mate.
03:42I was your mate.
03:45If he's sending a message...
03:46She's not even involved in anything to do with that.
03:48Are you Michael? Yes, I am Michael.
03:50What? Have you had sex with her? No.
03:52Well, why would she be saying that? What?
03:56You told me it was 2016.
03:58I said, I don't know when it was.
04:00What do you mean, you don't know when it was?
04:02It was about a year ago, so that's why I want to do it from the start.
04:06Yeah, I know he's...
04:11Why are you with him, then?
04:13Can you go back there? You come out here.
04:15Go back in. Come over here. Come here.
04:17I know who that... That right-hand one.
04:19That right-hand one. That one. That one.
04:24See, now I'm not buying you as much,
04:26cos you can't even remember when it was.
04:28Are you in love with him?
04:30I think I'm in love with a pair of socks more.
04:35She's a doormat, is that Katie?
04:37She's a fool. She needs to wise up.
04:39He texts me asking me for new pictures
04:41and I get pictures of his willy.
04:43Oh, God.
04:45Let's get Katie on the Jeremy Carr show.
04:57When was the dirty pictures?
04:59Dirty pictures? Oh, we're talking years ago now.
05:01Sit down, will you? No, I don't need to sit down.
05:03You're the one that's in my relationship,
05:06saying that you've got feelings for a bloke I'm with.
05:09I've got feelings for him when I was 16, pet.
05:1116, I'm 22 now.
05:13Two days ago, you were texting him,
05:15saying you wanted to be with him.
05:17No!
05:19So there is a bit of history.
05:21This isn't you pretending to be the moral person,
05:23helping your friends.
05:25You used to be in love with a bloke
05:27you now describe as a dirty, scruffy tram,
05:29which begs the question, does it not?
05:31Perhaps the fact that he's with her and not you
05:33is why you're doing this.
05:35APPLAUSE
05:37I'm not in love with him.
05:39Yes, you text me. I can't even believe you.
05:41Two days ago, you were in love with him,
05:43saying that you wanted to be with him.
05:45I would have been away the first time, man.
05:47You shouldn't even be here to be with him.
05:49You're cheating.
05:51Are you serious?
05:53You're the one.
05:55Who are you telling?
05:57Who are you telling?
05:59Who are you telling?
06:01Who said you could come out?
06:03Who said I couldn't? Go away.
06:05Get out. Get out.
06:07I'm a big girl.
06:09Get out.
06:11APPLAUSE
06:17So you're giving me the impression,
06:19to be fair, that you...
06:21I mean, there's looking out for your mate,
06:23but then she says, did you not just say,
06:25she's texting saying she's in love with him.
06:27So you come across as jealous.
06:29I've met her once. This is the second time I've met her.
06:31He's been texting me.
06:33You told her about it. I could have said nothing.
06:35This was a year and a bit ago, whenever it was.
06:37What's your relationship like, Casey?
06:39Let's cut to the chase. It's rubbish.
06:41You just called him every name under the sun there.
06:43Why are you with him? Why don't you?
06:45Why, if you know he's a serial cheat, do you sit there defending him?
06:47APPLAUSE
06:49What did you just say? Wait. What did you just say?
06:51Isn't he a rock at the moment?
06:53At the moment. What does that mean?
06:55A rock that sleeps around?
06:57Let's just talk about this relationship.
06:59You say, he's been messaging other women.
07:01I've seen the messages myself.
07:03What do these messages say? Go on, tell me.
07:05Well, the first text was from her,
07:07saying that she wanted to get...
07:09She wanted him to get rid of me
07:11so she could come over so he could...
07:13How do you know that was me at all?
07:15Oh, my God! I messaged you!
07:17I text you asking, who's this?
07:19They've got proof!
07:21Does it say it was me?
07:23I texted you!
07:25Who do you want to be shouting that at?
07:27I don't, but I'm shouting at you
07:29because you started messaging!
07:31It doesn't matter!
07:33It doesn't matter!
07:35Yes, you did!
07:37Hold on a second. Can I just jump in?
07:39Do you not think he might have lied about it?
07:41Do you not think that maybe... I don't know if she's in love or...
07:43Here's the interesting thing.
07:45You say that Amy wants to break us up.
07:47But he says he's here to prove that he has kept it in his pants.
07:49So is this, in fact, the rantings of a woman
07:51who pretends that she cares about you
07:53as a fellow woman but is, in fact, jealous
07:55because she's in love with him?
07:57She's not telling the truth.
07:59In fact, she didn't know that he was in a relationship
08:01and he's played her like he's playing you.
08:03So you've done one to prove you have slept with him
08:05and he's done one to prove that he hasn't.
08:07That's the truth, yeah?
08:09How's this going to play out, people?
08:11How's this going to work?
08:13Well, I believe that even if it comes out that he has,
08:15she'll still take him back.
08:17But you don't know me, though.
08:19That's what I'm saying. You do not know me personally.
08:21How would you answer that?
08:23What if it turns out that this woman was conned,
08:25that I'm single, she didn't know,
08:27she made a mistake, she slept with him?
08:29What would you do with that?
08:31Would he just roll over and play dead again?
08:33I'd walk away and he can get on with whatever he's doing.
08:35I've already told him if he's cheating on us or anything.
08:37I don't want him.
08:39You obviously do want him.
08:41I don't want him.
08:43He's loving this, though, isn't he?
08:45I'm in love with him!
08:47So if he fails, you're done?
08:49Mm-hm.
08:51Do you want him?
08:53The middle is a love god plus double lie detector
08:55after the break right back.
08:57You sent a reply saying,
08:59if I could get rid of her, I would
09:01because I could do with some company.
09:05We've sent these questions since the 2nd of January 2016.
09:09Will you explain to me why?
09:11Because on New Year's Eve,
09:13I made a drunken mistake.
09:15Isn't it true that one of your friends gave him oral sex?
09:17Yep.
09:23Have you been betrayed by someone close to you?
09:25Maybe you've been accused and you need to clear your name.
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09:49CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
09:53Thank you very much indeed.
09:55Welcome back.
09:57Before the break, Amy and Katie,
09:59both apparently fighting over the same man.
10:01You apparently met Michael.
10:03He said he was single, you had sex, you regretted it.
10:05He's with Katie. You don't trust him.
10:07You found messages. You seem to be blaming her.
10:09But here's the man in the middle.
10:11He says, I'm going to do a lie detector today
10:13to prove that she's the fanciest she wants to be.
10:15Yes, I slept with her when I wasn't with you.
10:17She's the one that's causing the trouble.
10:19You've done a lie detector to prove that you're telling the truth.
10:21EXPLOSION
10:25You're not involved at all.
10:27Do with you.
10:29LAUGHTER
10:31Now, I know you're very vocal, but now I can't hear you.
10:33What did you say?
10:35She's not involved. You had sex with her.
10:37I, in the past, I...
10:39Because you decided to ring us and tell us that you slept with her.
10:41You're the one that brought yourself down.
10:43Would you rather us didn't tell you?
10:45Would you rather us tell you? Be honest.
10:47Answer it.
10:49What would you rather?
10:51If I had kept it away, you would never have known.
10:53I would rather you tell us a lot...
10:55Shut your mouth for a minute!
10:57LAUGHTER
10:59I would rather you tell us a lot sooner
11:01instead of telling us so long
11:03after you've turned round and said you slept with her ages ago.
11:05Now you don't know the date you slept with him.
11:07So, come on, what is it?
11:09Do you know the date you last slept with him, do you?
11:11Yeah.
11:13LAUGHTER
11:15Wait, wait. No.
11:17Now you know the date you had sexual intercourse
11:19with Michael, the love god.
11:21No. You don't. Do you?
11:23Yes, I do. When was that? Last night.
11:25So you had sex last night, so you're happy?
11:27Yes. Are you, though?
11:29Cos you keep slagging him off!
11:31What's the truth?
11:33It's not anybody else's, right?
11:35So tell us your side of this story about this,
11:37cos you had a lot to say.
11:39I don't know where...
11:41When did you meet?
11:43I met him years ago.
11:45I met him about nine years ago.
11:47I cheated on...
11:49I haven't heard from you since,
11:51I've had nothing to do with you for months.
11:53That's not right.
11:55Yes, it is.
11:57We were texting each other a few years ago as well.
11:59So you can't see that.
12:01What about...
12:03You sent to some, didn't you?
12:05Let's look at those, cos you did send them to her, didn't you?
12:07Oh, yeah!
12:09CHEERING
12:11Where's he gone?
12:13I don't know where the messages are.
12:15LAUGHTER
12:17Sorry, hello?
12:19I haven't put them on the screen yet.
12:21Why has he done a rudder at the sign of a text message?
12:23Sorry, what am I...
12:25Hello?
12:27Matt, Michael, get back here now!
12:29Get back here now!
12:31You have to get him back, darling.
12:39So what's happening? Why has he walked out?
12:41Cos he thinks the messages are going to go on the screen.
12:43Well, why wouldn't they go on the screen?
12:45Because you know as well as I do that he's sent those text messages
12:47which says that he's run off because he doesn't want to face the truth,
12:49which doesn't put him in a particularly good light.
12:51And I now look in your face and I now think you think he's lying.
12:55So this isn't easy for you, instead of shouting at her.
12:57Well, you know, you can say,
12:59OK, she's come here, what are her motives?
13:01But he's done a runner.
13:03Let's give this lady a round of applause again.
13:05Katie, welcome back, Katie.
13:07APPLAUSE
13:09He's now refusing to be here, apparently.
13:11He's run out of Manchester, from what I can gather.
13:15I know this is difficult for you.
13:17Right, apparently Michael won't come back on this show
13:19if we show those text messages,
13:21which by anybody's standards would make one think
13:23that he's something to hide.
13:25Sounds a bit dodgy.
13:27You saw them, then. You tell us what they said.
13:29Well, she decided to text him,
13:31saying, I wish you could get rid of your hoop.
13:33And he said, I wish you could get rid of your hoop.
13:35And he said, I wish you could get rid of your hoop.
13:37And he said, I wish you could get rid of your hoop.
13:39I wish you could get rid of her so I could come over,
13:41because I'm horny.
13:43Yes, he did. Yes, he did.
13:45How many of our lads is this? He's texting!
13:47I messaged you back!
13:49On the morning thing!
13:51Will you shut the hell up?!
13:53I messaged you back!
13:55Come on!
13:57So, we're not teletossers?
13:59What, you think I'm scary, you eerie?
14:01Do you not think I'm scary?
14:03Why did you run?
14:05Why did you run?
14:07All this is because of you!
14:09Both of you!
14:11Snapchat saying this, that, and the other,
14:13and then popping up for me.
14:15Why did you run off, then?
14:17Because you were going to put messages on me.
14:19Because she's seen them already!
14:21Yeah, but I'm not... It's not happening.
14:23Their messages are not off me.
14:25Yes, they are!
14:27How else did she get your number?
14:29Because you texted me.
14:31I didn't see the number.
14:33She rings you and then suddenly you aren't here.
14:35So it's not you, is it?
14:37He actually didn't have your number
14:39to get them offline messages.
14:45You were saved in his phone as David Amy
14:47because I messaged you
14:49as to who this is!
14:51And you messaged me back saying,
14:53Amy, who's this?
14:55And I knew it was you!
14:57Where's the proof?
14:59Can I ask you something?
15:01Can I speak?
15:03You were obviously very upset
15:05about those text messages because they were sensitive.
15:07You sent them, though, yeah?
15:09And they were quite lewd.
15:11She sent the lewd ones.
15:13I replied.
15:15I didn't say sexual stuff.
15:17Yes, you did!
15:19You sent a reply!
15:21You sent a reply saying
15:23if I could get rid of her, I would
15:25because I could do with some company.
15:27Did you?
15:29You want some attention?
15:31She's the one sending the sexual messages.
15:33You said them!
15:35So we've got a girl here, you see.
15:37Hello?
15:39We've got a girl here who's trying to defend her boyfriend
15:41but is embarrassed because if you look in her eyes,
15:43she thinks in a minute she's going to find out he's a liar.
15:45Did you know that he was in a relationship
15:47when you had sex with him?
15:49Yes, she did.
15:51She's always known I've been with Katie.
15:53So why did you sleep with her then?
15:55You say that if these results
15:57prove that he's lying and she's telling the truth,
15:59you're done with both of them.
16:01And what if he's telling the truth and she's a fantasist?
16:03What happens then?
16:05She'll get the whole world.
16:07Do you think she is a fantasist
16:09or do you think she's trying to get back?
16:11Can I speak to him before he runs off again?
16:13What?
16:15Where's this story come from that apparently
16:17I meet you after work and walked you home?
16:19No, I met you in the pub.
16:21You walked back to me and grabbed my hand.
16:23Yes, you did.
16:25You waited for me after work, I walked you home,
16:27invited you into mine, tried to hold your hand,
16:29tried to kiss you and then I put you in a taxi.
16:31You didn't invite us into yours,
16:33but you did try and hold me hand.
16:35That's what you told me last night on the phone.
16:37So this all started, quite rightly,
16:39with you saying, well, not quite rightly,
16:41quite weirdly, I'm going to come and prove to this girl
16:43who I hardly know that a boyfriend's a cheat
16:45under the guise of womanhood.
16:47But the deeper we go into this,
16:49the more we get the distinct feeling that there's more to this.
16:51This has been going on for quite a while,
16:53which would tell people, maybe,
16:55that you do have something with this guy
16:57and you're trying to cause her trouble.
16:59I don't know. Now, just before we do this,
17:01what's your gut feeling?
17:03Because you've snapped at him, you've shouted at her.
17:05What's your feeling about this?
17:07They've both done lie detector.
17:09What do you think is the truth?
17:11I've already talked him into his face.
17:13I know he's going to fail.
17:15So your relationship's over in three minutes?
17:17Depends if he proves he's right or wrong.
17:19He just said he's going to fail,
17:21which means he's lied to you.
17:23Let's deal with Amy's results, shall we?
17:27We asked Amy,
17:29have you had sexual intercourse with Michael
17:31in the last two years? You said yes.
17:33Why did you say yes?
17:35This test says you're a liar.
17:39I knew you were lying! I knew it!
17:41Have you had sexual contact with Michael
17:43in the last two years?
17:45This test says you were lying.
17:47This must have been before 2016.
17:49This is completely blowing me away.
17:51You lied. You made the whole thing up.
17:53You lied on every question.
17:55Before 2016, then, it must have been.
17:57Which means your boyfriend's telling the truth,
17:59I would suspect.
18:01You want to f**k him up, you're telling the truth.
18:11Now, I just want to do this.
18:13We've set these questions
18:15for the 2nd of January 2016.
18:17Will you explain to me why?
18:19Because on New Year's Eve,
18:21I made a drunken mistake.
18:23No, no, no.
18:25Were you together?
18:27Yes.
18:29Isn't it true that one of your friends gave him oral sex?
18:31Yep.
18:33Somebody shouted out dump him.
18:35Anyway, you're happy if he passes this test
18:37from the 2nd of January.
18:39Has he?
18:41But not with her, with someone else.
18:43On the 2nd of January 2016,
18:45have you passionately kissed anyone other than Katie?
18:47You said no, Michael. Why did you say no?
18:49Telling the truth.
18:51This test says you're a liar as well.
18:53Katie, Katie,
18:55please don't walk off again.
18:57I get so tired.
18:59Katie, come here. Katie, please.
19:03Katie, come here. Katie.
19:05I've got to show you this. Come here.
19:07Because you're better than all of them.
19:09Come here, mate. Come here.
19:11You are better than this boy.
19:13You know this. Look.
19:15What have you done?
19:17I don't know.
19:19Oh, you don't know. Oh, God.
19:21I don't even know the results.
19:23Start running. Start running.
19:29So she made it up.
19:31But he hasn't behaved anyway.
19:33And we put in that thing.
19:35I haven't slept with you.
19:37Oh, come on.
19:39I haven't done anything with anybody.
19:41I haven't even been told my results, have I?
19:43You lie on every single question.
19:49It's not the first time you've failed, is it?
19:51It's not the first time you've lied.
19:53So why don't you just admit it, mate?
19:55Because you're more shit-stick than anybody I've ever met.
19:57This year, I haven't done anything.
19:59This year?
20:01The last year of 2016,
20:03you just drugged yourself right in the cat.
20:05So I don't get to say anything.
20:07Pack it in, will you?
20:09No. I'm trying to cover myself, and he's chatting to me.
20:11How am I meant to talk to you and discuss our relationship?
20:13If he's just going to talk...
20:15Tell us the truth, then!
20:17I am telling the truth.
20:19I got caught by the police.
20:21Why would I put myself through that again?
20:23Why would I put us through that again?
20:25Well, you've slept with someone.
20:27I'll move it in.
20:29You've slept with someone!
20:31You've slept with someone else!
20:33I haven't slept with anybody else.
20:35I don't know.
20:37Did anything happen with anybody else?
20:39Nothing has happened with nobody else, at all.
20:41Why is she here?
20:45To wherever you're coming from!
20:47Danny speaks, Katie, you're alive!
20:49Why are you running off if you care about...
20:51Do you know what? I'm not chasing either of you.
20:55Do you know what I know?
20:57I know that in my heart of hearts,
20:59this guy has some hold over you.
21:01You were dignified enough to come here,
21:03to keep the girl, it was made up.
21:05She maybe had something over him, or whatever.
21:07But he,
21:09even begging us to do it,
21:11after the 2nd of January,
21:13after you knew he'd had oral sex before,
21:15and by a mate of yours, you forgive him that.
21:17Darling, he's failed every single time.
21:19He's going to come back here, oh God, here he comes.
21:21I got caught.
21:23You've done something!
21:25You've done something in the past!
21:27If I'm out, I'm at work.
21:29Do I go to work and come back with money from nowhere?
21:31I'll do my job. I'll vouch everything where I am.
21:33Katie, from the first moment we came here,
21:35you said, I have doubts in this relationship.
21:37The doubts you had about that girl
21:39were well-founded.
21:41I don't even know why she's come back.
21:43She needs to go and hang her head somewhere in shame,
21:45because she lied about that.
21:47But this guy has a proven track record.
21:49Tell you what worries me, and he'll just go,
21:51is that women like you
21:53seem to constantly want to forgive men like that,
21:55who are serial adulterers.
21:57The fact is, the guy did it with your friend.
21:59Why do you show any semblance of wanting to hang on
22:01with a man who treats you so damn badly?
22:03Why aren't you better off being on your own?
22:05Why don't you want to be with somebody
22:07who can't do that?
22:13I knew you were lying, 100%.
22:15I knew it.
22:17I lied.
22:19I'd say the same to Amy, if you're listening,
22:21because he's obviously got some sort of hold over her.
22:23You need to both get on with your damn lives,
22:25because this guy ain't what you think he is.
22:27If you can change him, I think you're going to waste your time.
22:29That's how I feel.
22:31You'll go home with him, of course you will,
22:33and you'll live in the hope that it'll all be fine.
22:35But look me in the eyes and answer me this, do you trust him?
22:37No, she never has, never will.
22:39Shut up. There's no basis to a relationship, is there?
22:41Never trusted him.
22:43You've never trusted him, then why are you with him?
22:45Why are you with him?
22:47Because you don't want to be on your own?
22:49Tell me, why would you be with somebody you don't trust?
22:53Scared.
22:55Over here a sec, please.
22:57Scared of being on your own?
22:59This lovely lady, Karen, who works in the aftercare department,
23:01is going to concentrate on you and tell you that, actually,
23:03the fear of being on your own is genuine.
23:05But, actually, when you do face up to stuff like that,
23:07it makes you change and re-evaluate everything
23:09about the sort of person you think will get you through your life.
23:11You're worth more than him, and you're a liar.
23:17Right, I'll tell you what we're going to do,
23:19just before we go to a break.
23:21I think Amy's down here.
23:23APPLAUSE
23:27Listen, I'm going to say to you as I said to him,
23:29and I'm not having a go at you,
23:31sometimes in life you're into somebody
23:33and they're not giving it back, OK?
23:37He's no good, mate.
23:39No.
23:41You're better on your own, OK?
23:43As is she.
23:45I don't think you're going to be able to be friends and get through this,
23:47but I think that you just have to learn from this as she did, all right?
23:49It must have been before 2016.
23:51I couldn't come on here and lie and say
23:53I'd slept with somebody as ugly as him.
23:55I couldn't. I couldn't do it.
23:57I would simply say raise the bar.
23:59She just admitted in tears that she's terrified of being on her own.
24:01Being on your own is actually very refreshing.
24:03Best thing I've ever done.
24:05You all right? Not going back there?
24:07Oh, no.
24:09Don't text, don't get involved, all right?
24:11We wish you the best of luck. Back after this break.
24:13Don't go anywhere.
24:15He went into care when he was 16
24:17because he made my mum get very ill.
24:19He caused distress, he made her more ill,
24:21he stole her wedding rings.
24:23What for?
24:25To sell them for money.
24:27And I only see an 8, eh?
24:29Come back and know you probably have,
24:31cos then you and me are f***ed, son.
24:37There's a feud in the family
24:39tearing your family apart.
24:41Do you think you're being lied to
24:43and need my help to prove it?
24:45If you're 16 or over and you'd like to be considered for the show,
24:47email talk at ITV.com along with your number.
24:49Text TALK, plus your name,
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24:55Or you can call my team today.
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24:59course costs 25 pence,
25:01plus network access charge.
25:03APPLAUSE
25:11Welcome back.
25:13Andy is here for all important DNA results
25:15with who he describes as his nightmare brother, Anthony.
25:17He says that growing up,
25:19they always led to believe they were full brothers.
25:21However, recently, rumours have been circulating
25:23insinuating they might have different fathers.
25:25Andy says he's never got on with Anthony.
25:27He says he used to bully him as a kid.
25:29He says he stole their dead mother's wedding ring
25:31and even accuses his potential brother, Anthony,
25:33of using his house as a brothel.
25:35Ooh!
25:37Is there a red light outside the door?
25:39Andy is on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
25:41APPLAUSE
25:49Before we talk about the brothel,
25:51you and he, you don't get on at all, do you?
25:53No.
25:55Andy, 26, potential brother to Anthony.
25:57Is it Anthony or Anthony?
25:59Anthony.
26:01God, even saying it.
26:03But he's called Pingu.
26:05LAUGHTER
26:07He's what?
26:09He waddles like a penguin.
26:13I will smash you up!
26:15LAUGHTER
26:19Well, I'm not going to...
26:21There's no violence allowed on this show,
26:23but you've called him Pingu, what's that about?
26:25Cos he waddles like a penguin.
26:27He has crutches to walk, that's not...
26:29Billy! What?
26:31He's got the same disability, you can see it when he runs.
26:33Growing up, you two, were you close?
26:35The most extraordinary thing about this story
26:37is there are major discrepancies.
26:39You tell us, from growing up with him,
26:41what happened, because he went into care.
26:43Tell us the whole thing.
26:45Well, he went into care when he was 16
26:47cos he made my mum get very ill.
26:49He made your mum get very ill?
26:51She had cancer.
26:53I will... God alive!
26:55I will get to you! Please!
26:57She had cancer.
26:59He was putting stress on my mum and making her ill.
27:01He didn't cause her illness.
27:03No, but he was making her get worse.
27:05But he was misbehaving and the family decided
27:07to put him into care at 16.
27:09Yeah.
27:11He caused her stress, he made her more ill,
27:13he stole her wedding rings. What for?
27:15To sell them for money.
27:17Growing up, you were told you always had the same dad.
27:19When did that change?
27:21It changed when my mum told me that my dad wasn't his dad,
27:23so I believed that we weren't.
27:25What age were you? I was 15.
27:27Now, the thing I don't understand is,
27:29you say, he was disrespectful to my mum,
27:31he was put in care,
27:33he was a problem child,
27:35he was drunk at her funeral when she sadly passed away,
27:37which destroyed you.
27:39Then you launch into this whole thing about he's a prostitute.
27:41Yes. Can you explain that?
27:43Well, he used to have different lads every night
27:45and he's also got some sugar daddies
27:47that he used to get paid for having sex with.
27:49He's got sugar daddies
27:51that he used to get paid for having sex with?
27:53What's a sugar... Steve, do you know what a sugar daddy is?
27:55No.
27:57LAUGHTER
27:59Pretty harsh to say about your brother,
28:01he's got sugar daddies and he's riddled with STIs,
28:03that's what you say.
28:05It's nice, isn't it? How would you know that?
28:07He used your house as a brothel.
28:09Yeah. How does that happen?
28:11He came and stayed...
28:13Sort of, no, you wouldn't have either.
28:15He came and stayed in our house.
28:17There's a whole bunch of weird people having sex everywhere.
28:19He came and stayed at our house
28:21and when we were asleep... This is you and Sarah?
28:23Yeah. When we were asleep,
28:25he used to bring lads back every night.
28:27That's quite an accusation to make.
28:29Why are you two so at loggerheads?
28:31We've just always been at loggerheads
28:33and he's...
28:35He doesn't wash, he doesn't work, he smells,
28:37he's never been there for his nephew.
28:39I hope to God we're not full brothers.
28:41That's true. Why did you come here today?
28:43To find out the truth. Find out the truth.
28:45Imagine he's not the Jeremy Karsher. Give him a chance.
28:47He's coming this way.
28:57You all right, pal? Yeah, you?
28:59Yeah, welcome to the show.
29:01Not very respectful, what he said about you.
29:03No.
29:05But he's got the same disability anyway,
29:07so why be a heartless...
29:09I'm going to absolutely agree with you
29:11cos I won't have anybody...
29:13You're taking...
29:15..your own brother as well
29:17and I hope this DNA test comes back
29:19I'm not your brother yet
29:21cos then you and me are...
29:23I'll start by saying that I in no way condone
29:25anybody making any comments about things like that
29:27and that was particularly unfair.
29:29Why are you having a conversation
29:31about your potential brother
29:33because of the way he walks?
29:35He has a disability, you have the same.
29:37Do you not think that's disrespectful?
29:39No, that's cos you're a cold-blooded...
29:41And you've even said to people
29:43that you wish I was dead.
29:45You definitely...
29:47You definitely share the same mother.
29:49Today is about whether you share the same father.
29:51You say, Anthony, a lot of people say this on the show
29:53so I want you to have the chance to explain it.
29:55You've always felt like the black sheep of the family
29:57and I said to you lot in the audience here and at home
29:59there's a major, major discrepancy.
30:01You said, and I quote,
30:03my mother got cancer when he was 16
30:05and I was 18
30:07and the stress because of his behaviour,
30:09and all that he was doing
30:11led my mother in her position
30:13to decide to put him into care.
30:15You told my team. What age did you go into care?
30:17Eight years old.
30:19No. Yes, I did.
30:2116.
30:23Well, there is a major difference between eight and 16.
30:25Eight years. And you would sort of know.
30:27I'm thinking somebody's lying and I could be wrong.
30:29If that's the case, why was I the only
30:31child that got put into care?
30:33You don't need to swear.
30:35That proves that I'm the black sheep and everyone loves you.
30:37You're an older boy, ain't you?
30:39You're jealous of him.
30:41To be honest, I wish it comes back.
30:43He ain't my brother, so I can get the heartless
30:45out of my life.
30:47Let's put to you the accusations.
30:49He said that you're a male prostitute with sugar,
30:51daddy. Is that right to reply?
30:53That's in the past, yeah?
30:55We've come here today
30:57on this show, yeah?
30:59To get a DNA.
31:01Not for my past, yeah?
31:03So shut up and stop bringing my past up.
31:05The money that you got from these men that you slept with,
31:07you gave to your brother because he was always short of money.
31:09Sometimes when he's asked me...
31:11When you've asked me for money recently
31:13to help you get nappies and milk for...
31:15I've had to go and lend
31:17money off people. You were a male prostitute.
31:19No, I've lent...
31:21I was in the past and then I've become really
31:23good friends with them and I had to ask
31:25them to lend me money.
31:27LAUGHTER
31:29So in your...
31:31Sure, in the audience.
31:33In your mind, you would describe yourself
31:35as having sugar...
31:37Who are you?
31:39Your...
31:41Who are you?
31:43Who are you?
31:45I'm Stephen, I'm his partner.
31:47You're his partner? Does he...
31:49I mean, sorry, different planet.
31:51No, can I please get back
31:53to the sugar daddy thing, right?
31:55I'm trying to have a diet without sugar.
31:57Use him for money, you dirty...
31:59LAUGHTER
32:01That's disgusting, so wash your mouth out.
32:03You're with him.
32:05Ask the stuff that I know about that.
32:07You'd understand and you'd leave him.
32:09Well, who's the one that asked me to
32:11go out of the hotel last night, yeah?
32:13To your hotel
32:15to get you sanitary towels,
32:17dress pads and dummies?
32:19Why would you need a senator?
32:21Because I had to
32:23transfer a tenner out of my bank last night
32:25into yours so you could get
32:27the stuff that you needed.
32:29Because you said you didn't have any money and then...
32:31Why do you need... Sorry, is that for your partner?
32:33Did you pay for that?
32:35I put the tenner into his bank.
32:37So a sugar daddy that you might or might not
32:39have slept with, before you got with that gobby bloke,
32:41you gave the money that you gave
32:43for having whatever with a bloke to him
32:45so you could buy her a sanitary towel, is that right?
32:47God, my life's messed up.
32:49LAUGHTER
32:51But underneath that,
32:53doesn't that show that he actually cares?
32:55And if he's such a disgusting human being,
32:57why are you taking money off him?
32:59CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
33:05Why are you taking money off
33:07somebody that you are so
33:09fervently rude about? Why?
33:11I never asked him for money.
33:13Yes, you did. You said,
33:15can I go out of my hotel last night
33:17to get you the stuff and bring it to yours.
33:19So you are saying that you...
33:21He's always been the golden boy.
33:23You said you were put into care at eight.
33:25You're the golden boy who was put in at 16.
33:27Who's telling the truth here, people?
33:29I got put in at eight.
33:31What about the accusation that you stole your dead mother's rings?
33:33No, I didn't.
33:35Where did they go, then?
33:37You stole jewellery that she got passed down
33:39from her mum and sold that.
33:41You've stolen money from their bank account.
33:43You've stolen money off me in my bank account.
33:45You borrowed a tenner off him last night
33:47to buy sanitary wear.
33:49And on Tuesday, I put money in your bank as well for you.
33:51Why?
33:53Because I need milk.
33:55Why are you asking for money off a man you hate?
33:57You haven't asked me the answer to the question.
33:59Come on.
34:01And if you hate me so much, why?
34:03I don't think you hate each other at all.
34:05I do.
34:07I hate him.
34:09Shall I tell you what I think?
34:11I think there's so much down front.
34:13I think you both didn't have the most perfect upbringing
34:15and that you both lost your mother and suffered massively
34:17and I think you both resent the fact that that's the case
34:19and that you decided to beat each other up verbally
34:21because you feel the same upset that you've been through
34:23and that's why you should be there for each other.
34:25Isn't that true?
34:27So what are we talking about here?
34:29It's like a sort of...
34:31It's like a sort of game role playing
34:33in the playground with two eight-year-old boys.
34:35What's the truth, people?
34:37Let's get mature a minute.
34:39What would your mum be saying right now?
34:41Turning in her grave, probably.
34:43Eh?
34:45If he's so bad, don't borrow money off him.
34:47If you did use his house as a brothel,
34:49that's not really ideal, is it?
34:51It used to be my house in the first place, so...
34:53What do you want from today?
34:55To find out if he is my brother or not.
34:57You love your brother, don't you?
34:59No, I don't. Yes, you do. No, I don't. Really?
35:01No, I don't. OK. You said it too quickly.
35:03I actually don't.
35:05I know why you don't want to say it.
35:07You don't want to say it because you've been rejected in your mind
35:09all your life and you think that if you say I love you
35:11and he says not the same,
35:13that'll just be another reason for you to feel like the black sheep
35:15and the truth is,
35:17that's what you say about him you don't believe, do you?
35:19Well... Of course you don't.
35:21It's written all over your face.
35:23The way you insulted your brother
35:25for his disability, you could have turned your back on him
35:27if that's what you thought years ago,
35:29but you didn't do that, did you? Cos you're still taking his money.
35:31You need your heads banging together, you're like a couple of kids.
35:33But then he's basically saying it about Mum as well.
35:35APPLAUSE
35:39Then he's basically saying it about his own mother as well
35:41if you're saying, I'm a penguin,
35:43cos Mum had the same disability as both of us.
35:45Then he's basically saying it about Mum.
35:47He said it about him.
35:49If you're saying it about me, you're saying it about Mum,
35:51cos Mum gave birth to me.
35:53Yeah, because you are a gobby little...
35:55who should have taken Mum's place.
35:57Yeah? Maybe I should,
35:59then I wouldn't have had to deal with such a heartless, rude...
36:01..you taking...
36:03..my disability.
36:05I can't even decide on what to say.
36:07Yeah, it's cos your face just winds me up
36:09and I want to smack it.
36:11That's why.
36:13Swear down after everything
36:15you've said about me over the past.
36:17The DNA test does not show that Andy and Anthony
36:19are full siblings.
36:21You are full siblings one million per cent.
36:23APPLAUSE
36:29Let's stop the playground stuff, shall we?
36:31I don't believe a word that either of you say.
36:33I believe that you're both
36:35damaged, been affected,
36:37had a hard time.
36:39I said it already.
36:41That's the only person you both know
36:43who you should rely on, turn to,
36:45be able to share what you went through,
36:47is each other.
36:49Common ground, gentlemen.
36:51Common ground.
36:53Wash your mouth out and stop swearing.
36:55You, be honest.
36:57It's your brother and you're on national television
36:59slagging off his disability.
37:01What does that make you?
37:03Vile.
37:05But then you have the same disability.
37:07But then the woman that you adored, your mother,
37:09has the same disability. Would you have called her
37:11what you called him? No.
37:13Then be a man and tell him that you were wrong.
37:19I'll give you a choice.
37:21Either say that you didn't mean it
37:23or f*** me out of your life permanently.
37:25No, you're just being a drama queen. It doesn't work.
37:27No, I'm not.
37:29Yes, you are. Trust me. Just go with it.
37:31I've done this a long time.
37:33What's the truth? Come on.
37:35I don't like him.
37:37But you love him.
37:39I might love him in my own way.
37:41You don't like him but you love him. He's your brother.
37:43Your big brother.
37:45Come on, guys. You've bullied me in all my life.
37:47Yeah, what are you doing to me right now?
37:49Calling me a penguin?
37:51Can we move beyond the playground?
37:53I ain't taken the mick out of you
37:55and your disability on national TV, have I?
37:57You both lost your father.
37:59You both lost your mother.
38:01That is surely a bond
38:03that should bind you together.
38:05It shouldn't result in you sitting
38:07on this television show
38:09slagging each other off in the most infantile
38:11and ridiculous manner ever.
38:13Our families are...
38:15Yeah, what was that phrase?
38:17You can't pick your family but you can pick your friends
38:19but our families are what binds us.
38:21Blood, isn't it?
38:23If you don't want to be in each other's lives
38:25I would suspect the advice would be
38:27don't take money off him, then slag him off.
38:29Don't have anything to do with him.
38:31And if you feel the same, vice versa.
38:33Really? I'll go back to it.
38:35God, your mother must be so embarrassed
38:37if she was watching this.
38:39Disgraceful. Immature.
38:43Sit in a room for me with Graham
38:45and try and let him bang your heads together
38:47because your brother's and your mother's memory
38:49demands it. Yes or no?
38:51Yes or no?
38:53Get out of here, both of you.
38:55Give them a round of applause.
38:57APPLAUSE
38:59That's what we do. We let you know.
39:01Right, so then we'll keep you updated
39:03after the great lie detector on the Jeremy Carr show.
39:05Right back.
39:07He was your first love? He was.
39:09He was my first love.
39:11Things were great at first but Eddie
39:13very quickly cheated on you. He did.
39:15You open yourself up to feelings
39:17that you didn't think you'd ever get
39:19and he cheats on you. How did that make you feel?
39:21Terrible. I felt like I'd been used.
39:23He makes me feel dirty.
39:25Dirty, used, terrible.
39:27He calls me by all names.
39:32Do you think you're being lied to?
39:34Do you have evidence to prove it,
39:36like home videos, recordings or texts
39:38that you want to confront someone with?
39:40If you're 18 or over
39:42and you'd like to be considered for the show,
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39:59CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
40:05Thank you very much indeed. Welcome back.
40:07My next guest today, Angela,
40:09is here for make-or-break lie detector results.
40:11She says she's sick of the constant accusations
40:13and arguments with her childhood sweetheart
40:15and now her partner of two years, Eddie.
40:17She says she is utterly convinced
40:19that Eddie's insecurities stem from him
40:21cheating her at the beginning of their relationship
40:23and she's here today to prove once and for all
40:25she ain't been doing the dirty work.
40:27She ain't been doing the dirty.
40:29She says she's not one for revenge sex.
40:31She said,
40:33We got together late in life after so many years
40:35and now it's just not a great thing.
40:37And she's on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
40:39CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
40:46Are we the same age? Yes.
40:48Brilliant.
40:50And the reason I wanted to do this story
40:52is because it's very different for us.
40:54This is really interesting.
40:56You tell the story.
40:58You used to be with each other at school.
41:00Yes, we went together for a couple of years at school.
41:03We lost touch with each other for 35 years.
41:07I got married.
41:09He was your first love? He was.
41:11He was my first love.
41:13You were very, very happily married for 35 years.
41:15I was. What happened?
41:17I lost my husband to cancer four years ago.
41:21And then Eddie got in touch with me through your favourite...
41:25Facebook. Facebook, yay!
41:29Tell us, I was reading, when you saw him,
41:31it was like, what happened after all that time?
41:34I'd been at school again. Was it?
41:36My heart was beating. It was lovely.
41:38No guilt or anything? You just felt great about it?
41:41I felt great. You'd been through a difficult place.
41:43Things were great at first, but Eddie very quickly cheated on you.
41:46He did.
41:48He came to my house in the Midlands,
41:51he went back to Newcastle
41:53and he had a one-night stand with a lady.
41:56So, 35 years of total happiness,
41:59the devastation of losing this lovely man,
42:02you build yourself back up,
42:04your heart starts fluttering, your first ever love,
42:07you open yourself up to feelings
42:09that you didn't think you'd ever get any cheats on you.
42:11How did that make you feel? Terrible.
42:13I felt like I'd been used.
42:15Why did you stay with him?
42:17Because I loved him and I still do love him.
42:19But what's happened, which is really interesting,
42:23not surprising, though,
42:25is that this guy has now become the most insecure, paranoid,
42:29pain in the backside imaginable.
42:31Yeah, he has. Really, really bad.
42:34He accuses you almost hourly of what?
42:37Of having an affair, sleeping with somebody else.
42:40It's got to the point now where I'm too frightened to go to work.
42:44I'll do a couple of days instead of doing five days
42:47because I'll get accused of fancying the work blokes
42:50or the staff there. It's terrible.
42:53This is really important and I like your honesty to the team.
42:56Have you told him how it makes you feel?
42:58Because you told us, he makes me feel dirty.
43:00Dirty, used, terrible.
43:02He calls me vile names,
43:04especially when he goes out and he has a couple of drinks.
43:07He'll come back, start an argument,
43:10and I'm all the names under the sun.
43:13I open my legs to anybody and I feel terrible.
43:18Not the relationship you dreamed of,
43:20not the man that you met 35 years ago or, in fact, before.
43:23No, I've never felt like that before.
43:25You must love him to want to come and prove
43:27something that you say is absolutely laid on the line.
43:29I love the bones off him. I really, really do love him.
43:33And I'm going to prove to him today.
43:35Do you think that'll be enough, though, mate?
43:37Do you think he'll wise up? I hope he will.
43:39What was his reaction when you said you were coming here?
43:41He went very impressed.
43:43I'm not very impressed with the way he's treated you,
43:45but there you are, so we're going to go on.
43:47Great. Eddie's on The Jeremy Carl Show. Love you that way.
43:57First question will be a very simple one. Been cheated on before?
44:00Yes.
44:02It's a difficult one for me, this, cos, you know,
44:05we're the same age and I don't want to sound like I'm preaching,
44:08I'm just trying to make you see something.
44:10You're in severe danger, you idiot, of messing up the best thing in your life
44:14It's not her fault, it's your damn fault and you need to watch out.
44:16That's the truth.
44:21You're the one that cheated, pal, aren't you?
44:23I did, yes, but I regret that now.
44:25You might well regret it, but all you do every day is accuse her
44:28of doing what you did, but she hasn't done what you did.
44:30It's you that should look in the mirror and go,
44:32I am going to mess up something that I waited 35 years for.
44:35Why?
44:37Why are you so angry about the phone?
44:40It doesn't matter who you are on the phone, right?
44:43You use my phone like it's your own, you know my PIN number,
44:46you go through my stuff.
44:48You go through his phone? Yes.
44:50Yeah, I have checked his phone.
44:52Can I just say at this point, anybody who checks anybody's phone is barking.
44:54You shouldn't have to check somebody's phone, for God's sake,
44:56in a relationship, should you?
44:58No, it's not normal.
45:00I don't know her PIN number.
45:02You should know her PIN number and you should know his.
45:04Why don't you trust each other?
45:06I did trust him, but the thing is,
45:09certain people have said to him,
45:11if he can't go through my phone,
45:13there's something in my phone that I don't want him to see.
45:16My late husband never, ever looked on my phone.
45:19He didn't know who I was talking to, but he trusted me.
45:22Are you jealous of her ex-husband?
45:24No, no, no.
45:26Do you know what it took for this woman, I suspect,
45:28after 35 years to open herself emotionally again?
45:32I suspect, and I could be wrong,
45:34that there would be certain people in her life
45:37who find it difficult that she's moved on,
45:40and yet she's stuck her neck on the line for you
45:42and you respond by cheating on her
45:44and calling her every name under the sun
45:46and basically not allowing her to breathe.
45:48And whether you like that or not, Eddie, this is absolutely in your court.
45:51I could be totally wrong if I am, my hands will go in the air.
45:53Do I think she'll pass the test? Abs-a-damn-lutely, I do, right?
45:56You are in danger of losing something you've wanted forever,
45:59so why don't you change the way you are?
46:01If she loves me the way she says she does,
46:04why did she go on the phone to this person we both know
46:08and had a discussion with him, didn't you?
46:10And what did you say at the end when you went off the phone?
46:13I love you.
46:14Why would you say that to another man?
46:16I did say that to the producers today, I explained.
46:19We had been out for a drink, came back,
46:22we had a couple more drinks at my house,
46:24I'd spoken to one of our old-school friends,
46:26we had a conversation with him,
46:28and I said to him at the end, love you.
46:30Yeah.
46:31I would say to my son, my daughter, or, you know,
46:34anybody I speak to, love you.
46:36Yeah, you would say that to your daughter, right?
46:38When I welcomed your girlfriend and I said I love you,
46:40I love everything about what I've written about you,
46:42it doesn't mean we're having a sexual relationship,
46:44just so you're aware.
46:45Do you not tell women you love them?
46:47No, no, no, no.
46:48The only person I tell I love...
46:50This is in your court, mate, whether you like this or not,
46:52you might not like to listen to this,
46:54and I respect you for coming, right?
46:56But you are going to lose this woman
46:58unless you get your head out of your backside.
47:00I know that.
47:04You're still saying, but I could be totally wrong,
47:07she could fail and then I'll look an idiot.
47:09How many people... I won't even look round, Ed, right?
47:11How many people in this audience think this lady's going to pass this test?
47:19We asked Ange, since the start of your relationship with Eddie,
47:22have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
47:24Not forgetting, of course, that Eddie did.
47:26She said no.
47:27Why do you think she said no?
47:29Cos your girlfriend was telling the truth.
47:36Since the start of your relationship with Eddie,
47:39have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
47:41She said no.
47:42Cos your girlfriend you've wanted to be with all your life
47:44was telling the truth.
47:48Do you watch this show? No, you don't, do you?
47:51Not again.
47:52What's this going to be, then?
47:53A full house.
47:54Your girlfriend passed every single question.
48:07Listen, I don't have a problem with you at all,
48:09but listen to me, right?
48:10You haven't got off to the greatest start with the cheating thing.
48:12I'm sure people have done it to you before.
48:14And I'm sure it's not easy as well,
48:16coming into a relationship with somebody who's with somebody for 35 years.
48:19But do you remember that kid that went out with this girl
48:21that wanted that all the time? It's here.
48:23She loves you. Look at her face.
48:24Don't mess it up.
48:25I love her.
48:26Don't mess it up, OK?
48:27Cos men are far more insecure than women.
48:29Happy?
48:30Give them a round of applause, lovely.
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48:43thanks for watching.
48:44We'll see you very soon.
48:45Take care. Bye-bye for now.
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