The Jeremy Kyle Show (14 March 2018)
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00:10On today's show...
00:12Craig, 25. Your brother is Dylan, who's 23. You say he's a nightmare.
00:17You've got it coming for you, sunshine.
00:19Yeah, bring it.
00:23Did he proposition her?
00:24Uh, yeah. He was like, um, oh, leave, Craig. I can give you a better life than what he can.
00:31You look like I'm not smacking shit, huh?
00:35You sat on that stage and basically called me a bad dad. I am there for you.
00:39You were the one saying you had a son.
00:43Get back in your box.
00:44No, you get out of your box, you little idiot.
00:47Have you heard yourself? You're not manipulating me again.
00:50He's obsessed. He can't leave me alone.
00:52I believe in you a little bit.
00:53So why are you posting about me still three months later?
00:56Why are you sending me flyers from Blackpool?
00:58He's an absolute fool, Luke!
01:02I ain't even got a mobile phone, so damn because of you.
01:05You've got nothing to do with her.
01:06Well, stop messaging me, Luke!
01:29Hello, my friends. Good morning and a big, big welcome to The Show.
01:32Our first guest today, Craig, is here to confront his brother, Dylan,
01:35who he says is basically a violent and abusive thug.
01:38He says that Dylan is an embarrassment and even banned him from his own wedding.
01:42Check this. After his brother tried to sleep with his wife.
01:47Craig says he's here today to tell him,
01:49you're no longer a part of this family, stay out of mine and my wife's life for good.
01:52Do one. Craig's on the Jeremy Carr Show. That way!
01:59How are you, sir?
02:01You like that?
02:03Do I like it?
02:04Yeah, do you like it?
02:05Lovely. How are you, Craig?
02:06I'm fine, thanks, mate.
02:07Why have I gone into that accent?
02:08Welcome to the show, Craig, 25.
02:10Your brother is Dylan, who's 23.
02:12You say he's a nightmare.
02:15Yeah, he is an absolute nightmare, Jez.
02:18We had him round one New Year for Christmas.
02:21I was going to say, all that growing up, were you close?
02:23We was close, actually.
02:24My mum actually said one point, we were like the Mitchell brothers.
02:29Tom, my team, it's gone too far.
02:31I am here to humiliate this low life and to have him out of my life.
02:34What's been going on? Blood is thicker than water, isn't it?
02:37Well, you know, I mean, they say that you can't pick your family,
02:40but, you know, I picked mine.
02:43I did pick mine, and my family's my wife and my daughter,
02:46do you know what I mean? I don't want him anywhere near them.
02:48You say he's a benefits scrounger.
02:50Yeah, of course he is. I mean, I'm on benefits myself,
02:52do you know what I mean? I'm on benefits myself,
02:54but I work for a charity, do you know what I mean?
02:56And we make furniture and, you know, stuff like that,
02:58and we give, like, to people less fortunate.
03:01You've got it coming for you, sunshine.
03:03Yeah, bring it.
03:06He abuses the system.
03:08Yeah, he does, yeah.
03:10What, works and claims?
03:12Well, he doesn't, you know what I mean?
03:14He's never really got a... on anything, Jez.
03:16You say he's a liar, he's a trouble, he causes trouble, what do you mean?
03:19Well, like, he was sending my wife, like...
03:22Well, he came to live with you, didn't he?
03:24Yeah, he did, actually, yeah.
03:25I mean, he were homeless for a bit, so we put a roof over his head,
03:28and he didn't have to pay no rent, he didn't have to do none of that, mate.
03:31Do you know what I mean?
03:32Because I didn't really want to take anything off him,
03:34do you know what I mean?
03:35Didn't help out, though, did he?
03:37No, he didn't, no.
03:38I went to work one day, cos I was actually working at that point,
03:41and I come home and I said to my wife,
03:44has he done anything round the house?
03:46And she said, no, I haven't done it at all.
03:48Nothing? Nothing at all.
03:49And then, shockingly...
03:51Oh, I like that.
03:52I asked him to wash the pots and he head-butted my bathroom door.
03:55Yeah.
04:00Did you wash up? No!
04:03I don't know what's wrong with him, man,
04:05he looks like a drunk Frank Gallagher.
04:08He messaged your missus and said, leave him.
04:11Did he proposition her?
04:13Yeah, he actually did send her that message,
04:15he was like, oh, leave Craig's,
04:17I can give you a better life than what he can.
04:19Him?!
04:20Yeah, him.
04:21So he's living in your house, cos he's homeless,
04:24and he asked his own brother's wife to get it on with her
04:27and to leave you.
04:29He's got the same tattoo as I have on my neck, what does that mean?
04:32Oh, yeah, well, I've got this tattoo here to represent,
04:36you know, the sad tragic loss of my granddad, you know, there it is.
04:40And he went out and got the same one.
04:44He's not worthy to have that tattoo.
04:46Is this underneath or on top?
04:49Erm...
04:50Can you put them back up again, please?
04:52Cos the one underneath's a bit better, isn't it, to be honest?
04:55It does look a bit better, to be fair.
04:57He's got a better tattoo than you.
04:59Yeah, it does look a bit better, to be fair.
05:01That's why you don't like him, isn't it?
05:03Oh, no, no.
05:04You'll be saying to your wife, will you have it with me?
05:06No, I'm joking.
05:07So, today, why are you here? Why are you doing it here?
05:09Basically, I just want him to leave my wife and my family alone,
05:11I don't want him in my daughter's life,
05:13I don't want him in my unborn child's life,
05:15I don't want him basically anything to do with...
05:17Right, you're a low-life deadbeat who's made his life hell
05:20and he hates your guts.
05:22It's just going to go well, isn't it?
05:24Dylan's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
05:26CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
05:32My guts do it?
05:34Yeah.
05:35Why do you hit my guts a minute ago, do you know what I mean?
05:38Cos you've got Emily wrapped around your little finger,
05:42whatever she says, you do it anyways.
05:45No, no, no, mate, it's not even like that, do you know what I mean?
05:47Yeah, it is.
05:51You look at him, you're smacking straight in the mouth.
05:56I'm not here for you, right, why are you even here?
05:58She's here to support me.
06:00You can't stand up for yourself.
06:02You should do what friendly men do instead of lying,
06:04you two...
06:08Well, that's a nice entrance, isn't it?
06:11Welcome to the show.
06:12Why are you taking advantage of his hospitality
06:14and saying, like, why are you trying it on with his wife?
06:16I never tried it on with his wife at all.
06:18Yeah, you did try it on with my wife. No, I didn't.
06:20Yeah, you did. No, I didn't.
06:22You came down to her mother's place where we were staying
06:24because we didn't have a place to live at that time.
06:27I went to the toilet, we got to the train station
06:29and you said, did she try it on with you?
06:31Come on, Dylan!
06:32No, I never tried it on with her.
06:33Why would I try it on with your missus?
06:35You told my team that he hates his brother from the moment
06:37he slept with somebody you slept with or he was going out with
06:39or something, what was the truth?
06:41Because she told me they're split up.
06:43Somebody else? Yeah.
06:44So you're jealous of your brother, are you?
06:46No, I'm not. Why do you live in his house?
06:48If you hate him so much, then why don't you get your own place?
06:51Because I didn't hate him at the time.
06:53I didn't hate him at the time.
06:55Why didn't you get a job?
06:59Have you ever had a job? Yeah.
07:01Doing what? Painting and decorating.
07:03So what's happened?
07:04Well, he says you're abusing the benefit system.
07:06No, I'm not at all.
07:07Go out to, you know what I mean, get a decent job to pay your way.
07:10I bet many of these people in this audience sat here today,
07:13I bet half of you work, right? No, I don't.
07:16Stand up if you work for a living.
07:19CHEERING
07:22Lazy man.
07:24There are a lot of people, well, hold on a minute,
07:26there are a lot of people trying to get a job,
07:28but you're not trying to get a job, are you?
07:30How do you know? Cos he told me.
07:32Just cos he told you, I am trying to get a job, actually.
07:35Are you? Yeah.
07:36Well, what's happening then? Why are you living in his house?
07:38Because I had nowhere to stay at the time, yeah, I will say that.
07:41Right, and I'm actually glad he took me in.
07:43Yeah, and I was good enough to put a roof over your head and so was she.
07:46I know, I'm not denying that.
07:47And then, and then... Then?
07:49..you had the up and bald cheek to go out on that New Year,
07:52I told you not to have too many drinks because you can get violent, mate.
07:56Oh, nice. And then, you know what I mean,
07:58and then you was in my face, my wife got in yours,
08:00and then you nearly had them down the stairs, man,
08:02and, you know what I mean, she was a newborn kid.
08:04I was trying to get by her.
08:05Why would I want to push her down the stairs?
08:07You tried to push her down the stairs?
08:09You tried to push her down the stairs?
08:11No, I never, I was trying to get by her so I can get out of the house.
08:14If I had not caught her, when I did,
08:16she would have fell with my newborn baby.
08:18Did you have bad blood when he asked you to clean the pots?
08:20No, not at all. Are you sure?
08:21I'd rather headbutt you.
08:22Oh, you want to headbutt me?
08:24And that's going to happen, isn't it?
08:26I don't even like you, little...
08:31You don't like me?
08:32No, why would anyone want to like you?
08:34You can't even win an award, right? I like you.
08:37CHEERING
08:50I tell you what, if I had this bit of music, I'd win.
09:01Lee thinks there isn't much to you, Barth, that's fine.
09:04Listen, no, I haven't won an award, right?
09:06But I have got a damn job and I don't abuse my family,
09:09I don't abuse my brother's wife, do I?
09:11CHEERING
09:18So why don't you like me?
09:19No, no, let's have this bit. Why don't you like me?
09:21Why would anyone like you? Sorry?
09:23Why would anyone like you?
09:24Because somebody takes you on and tells you exactly what you are,
09:26you lying, low-life piece of whatever.
09:28Why don't you get a job?
09:32Why are you abusing his hospitality?
09:34Why don't you sit there while you don't give a damn
09:36and the world owes you a damn living?
09:38The world doesn't owe me anything.
09:40Good, then apologise to your brother for misusing his house and abusing...
09:43It doesn't matter... Do you know what he said to us?
09:45He's controlled by his wife, he's round a little finger.
09:47Is there anything you want to say about this
09:49or are you just stunned into silence?
09:51I've got nothing to do with him, mate.
09:53I'm just here to basically tell you to leave me and my family alone
09:56and don't bother coming anywhere near Lexi, do you know what I mean?
09:59She's my one in a million mate, you don't even deserve to be an uncle.
10:02You don't deserve to be...
10:04Oh!
10:06Back off to the break, don't go anywhere.
10:08My life and her life and my daughter's life ain't no game, mate,
10:11and to you, I'm not going to have you be a part of that, I really am.
10:15I picked myself up when I fell.
10:17You can do the damn same.
10:32CHEERING
10:38It's all kicking off, security.
10:46This test says you're a liar, love.
10:50This isn't about you, this is about your children.
10:52Oh, here we go, the car's in peace.
10:54OK, more happiness after.
10:59Oh, get off!
11:00No, no, no, no, no!
11:04Oh, my Lord.
11:06I think Felix Scofield has to put up with this.
11:13There's a feud in the family tearing your family apart.
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11:46Thank you very much indeed. Welcome back.
11:48Before the break, we met Craig, who came out and said,
11:50my brother's a scrounger, he's a user, he's taken advantage of me and my family,
11:53he's abused my wife, tried it on with her, been horrible to me kid,
11:56so happy came out.
11:58You don't like anybody, do you?
12:00No. What?! No.
12:02What's wrong with you? Why are you so miserable?
12:05Why are you so miserable?
12:07Cos I've got to stay at your office.
12:10Sorry?
12:12Cos I said I've got to stay at your...
12:16I'm quite easy. It's absolutely fine to say that, quite seriously.
12:20I really don't get affected because if I did, I'd probably...
12:23Anyway, never mind. What's your wife called? Emily.
12:25Emily's on the Jeremy Carr Show.
12:32You call him a bad dad?
12:34Yeah, a lie about him being a bad dad and whatever else.
12:37His daughter wants for nothing, nothing at all.
12:41What, both of you?
12:42Yes.
12:50Where are you going?
12:51Away from you.
12:52What are we doing now?
12:53You're not running away.
12:55Where are we going?
12:57You ain't running away or something.
12:59Oh, we're just doing the Cardinal Olympics.
13:07I'm going.
13:08Come on, you little liar!
13:10Here comes the big man routine.
13:12What are you doing being so aggressive?
13:14Cos I can.
13:15Cos he's a little...
13:18Here comes the big man routine.
13:20This is a talk show, not a walking show.
13:29Dylan, what's the point of this?
13:35No, you're right, I don't want nothing to do with you.
13:37I've got all my reasons why to...
13:39If you don't want nothing to do with him,
13:41if you don't want nothing to do with him, why bring him here?
13:44You sat on that stage and basically called me a bad dad.
13:47You were the one saying you had a son.
13:50And you've never had a child.
13:52You're not man enough to give kids.
13:54Oh.
13:56Come on, then.
13:57I want to say I'll have a Facebook and whereabouts,
14:00but where's your mouth now?
14:01I put my little girl to bed every night and I read her a damn story.
14:04And do you know what she gets up in the morning and says?
14:07Does anybody want a biscuit?
14:11Do you want a biscuit?
14:12Come on, Dylan.
14:14Do you want a biscuit?
14:16No, thank you.
14:19Where are we going now?
14:20I'd have a biscuit if I had a bro joke.
14:22Here you are. Well, there, have a biscuit.
14:24It's a chocolate biscuit.
14:25Oh, look at that. I can see I've got biscuits.
14:27Where are you going, essentially?
14:29You wanted to speak to me, so get over here and speak to me.
14:32Just me and you, then. Just want to speak to his brother.
14:34Just me and you.
14:35No!
14:38He's married to her!
14:41He's together!
14:43You are the one that's spreading lies about her!
14:45You are the one!
14:49You've got every right to be here just as much as you do!
14:52You're the one that's spreading lies about her, Sunshine!
14:54What lies has he spread?
14:56He's spread lies about...
14:59Apparently I tried coming on to him in my mum's house.
15:02She tried coming on to him.
15:03Have you seen the state of that? Seriously!
15:05She sent him messages, or it could have been him sending her messages,
15:08but, yeah, that were the bits of gist of it.
15:10Do you know what I mean?
15:11He's brought me on here and he says that he wants to speak to me on my own.
15:14I don't know what he's doing, really. He seems to have run about a mile.
15:17He'll never grow up.
15:18He needs a microphone.
15:20He'll never grow up.
15:21Has he taken his microphone off?
15:23Yeah.
15:24Aw, does baby want his dummy?
15:26Don't start now, you're not helping.
15:28It's pathetic.
15:30Yeah, I understand that.
15:31He needs to give it in, instead of the drugs.
15:34Oh, dear.
15:35You need this microphone if you're going to talk to your brother, pal.
15:38I can't do it if you've taken your thing off, yeah?
15:40You want to speak to me, you do it with her here.
15:42And I didn't mean to call him a bad dummy, look.
15:45I'm sorry I said that.
15:47And I'm sorry, Emily, for calling you what I did.
15:51I'm not interested in nothing.
15:53Can I do this, because I can't...
15:55I just want a relationship with my brother.
15:57Where do you think it's gone wrong, pal?
15:59Yeah, I won't lie to you, Jeremy, yeah, I have treated him bad.
16:02And we used to...
16:04But we used to be close.
16:06And when I was on the show last time, yeah, I didn't say much,
16:09I didn't say I was afraid and anything else like that, right,
16:11but I'm actually here, yeah.
16:13Why did you come?
16:14Because I miss him.
16:15Right, that's...
16:16I don't like the way I've treated him, yeah.
16:18Listen to him, he can't do any more than say that.
16:20And I am sorry, and I'm sorry about him, right,
16:22you're not a bad dad.
16:23I've seen you with Lexi.
16:24That's why I say it.
16:25Because he's trying to score points.
16:27Yeah, I was trying to score points, yeah, and I said it out of anger.
16:30That's fair enough, to be fair.
16:31And I wish I never said it.
16:33That's fair enough.
16:34If you know someone's not a bad parent, why say it?
16:36Because she is scoring points.
16:38I said it out of anger.
16:39He said it, I said it.
16:40You haven't apologised to me.
16:41You haven't said anything wrong.
16:42And I'm sorry.
16:43You haven't apologised to me yet.
16:44And I'm sorry, Jeremy.
16:45I'll be crying later.
16:46You still haven't told me the reason why.
16:47You nearly pushed her down the stairs with my newborn baby in her arms.
16:50I was trying to get past it.
16:51Yeah, of course.
16:52You pushed her, admitted, you pushed her.
16:54No, I don't hurt women.
16:55Can I ask you a question?
16:56Can I ask you a question?
16:57Don't get upset, answer me man to man.
16:59You're a little bit envious of your brother.
17:01Yeah.
17:02Yeah?
17:03Of course he is.
17:04Yeah, because he's had a better life than me.
17:06That's not my fault.
17:09I just want it to be me and him.
17:10I just want to talk to him.
17:12Obviously she doesn't want to talk to me, right?
17:14And I can't blame her.
17:15Neither does he.
17:16Yeah, but he's got to make his own mind up for that, hasn't he?
17:21Stand there, stand there.
17:24Do me a favour and let them speak.
17:25Come here.
17:26Yes, she can.
17:27Not a word.
17:28Not a word.
17:29I picked myself up when I fell.
17:32You can do the damn same.
17:34Yeah, right, well...
17:35You don't need to go spreading lies about people.
17:38I mean, she's my wife, mate.
17:40If it weren't for her, I'd probably be dead or in jail.
17:45If it weren't for her, mate, she picked me up.
17:48Can't be easy to hear that, though,
17:50when somebody else is saying it to you
17:52and you're in that position they were once in, can it?
17:54Oh, no, I'm not...
17:55I don't... Do you know what I mean?
17:57Mate, can you do me a favour?
17:58I'm not having a go at you at all, Emma, like you,
18:00but just let the brothers speak.
18:03I know.
18:04You love your brother, don't you?
18:06Yeah, course I do.
18:07But he came and apologised.
18:09Come on, give him a break.
18:10His apology doesn't mean anything.
18:11I wish I could...
18:12Let him speak.
18:14Seriously, now, that's not fair.
18:15Let him speak. Go on.
18:17I can't talk to you when she's here, mate.
18:19You have to...
18:20You have to be quiet now, Emily.
18:22I know she's your missus, mate, but I just want to talk to you.
18:25I don't want to argue with her.
18:26I know what you're doing,
18:27but you still haven't admitted the fact
18:29that you nearly had her down the stairs,
18:31and you still haven't admitted the fact of...
18:33Why did you lie to me?
18:34What was the reason for lying?
18:36Because I seem to be good at lying, that's all I know.
18:39That's good.
18:40Why did you lie to me?
18:41Were you trying to score points to get her?
18:43No, I wasn't.
18:44Did she try on with you?
18:46No.
18:47Did you try on with her?
18:48No.
18:49I've got to tell you...
18:51I actually didn't try on with her.
18:53You told me you did.
18:54Of course he did, cos he was outscoring...
18:56Craig.
18:57I was outscoring points.
18:59Craig.
19:00I didn't mean it.
19:01No, this ain't a game, mate.
19:03In my life, in her life, in my daughter's life,
19:05ain't no game, mate.
19:06And to you, I'm not going to have you be a part of that.
19:08I really aren't.
19:09What's the point of me standing here, then?
19:11You brought us here.
19:13No, I will not.
19:14You brought us here.
19:15That is what I'm saying to you.
19:16You brought us here.
19:17Yeah, obviously I care about you,
19:19cos I wouldn't have travelled all this way
19:20if I didn't want to talk to you.
19:21I don't want to know him, Jeremy, I really don't.
19:23Well, go on, then.
19:24Sorry, Jeremy, but I've tried to talk to him.
19:27Oh, God.
19:30Go on, then.
19:31See you in a bit.
19:32What?
19:33What, you're going to start speaking to my wife like that?
19:35I'm not going to start speaking to my wife like that, really.
19:37Watch out.
19:38No.
19:39Relax.
19:40Oh, what is he doing?
19:41Don't start speaking to her like that.
19:45Come out.
19:46That's what I'm talking about.
19:47That's what I feel like.
19:49The bathroom door.
19:51Ta-ra.
19:52See you.
19:53Nice knowing you.
19:54Well, you know what?
19:55I said it before.
19:56Do our best to offer people the chance
19:58to come and talk in a calm way.
20:00I think he's very angry because I think he's jealous.
20:02I think he's done and said things he probably regrets.
20:05She is very vocal.
20:06We'll do our best to offer them the chance as brothers to sit down.
20:09We'll let you know. We'll keep you updated.
20:12Did you have sex with Stella?
20:14No.
20:15See, he's gone round telling people, he actually has.
20:17Why haven't you told people you haven't?
20:19Yes, you haven't got the screenshots, the lot.
20:21I've never slept with him. Never.
20:23And if she did, what happens to your mate of nine years?
20:26You shaved my mate, no more.
20:27Clearly wasn't my mate in the first place, was she?
20:45It's all kicking off. Security.
20:47Security.
20:54This test says you're a liar, love.
20:57This isn't about you, this is about your children.
21:00Oh, here we go.
21:02OK, more happiness after.
21:07Oh, get off.
21:08No, no, no, no, no.
21:12Oh, my Lord.
21:15Nick Fenix, go for it.
21:16Who wants to put up with this?
21:22Are there three people in your relationship?
21:24Are you in a love triangle or want to expose a love rat?
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21:55Thank you very much, everybody. Welcome back.
21:57You might remember my next guest, Andy, from a previous encounter.
22:00Take a look at this.
22:03Why are you here today?
22:05To prove what a dirty little...she is.
22:08You want to find out if she's a cheat
22:10and you're also here to prove that you haven't catfished her.
22:13I am, yeah. She's got a Twitter account
22:15and on that Twitter account it says, available for adult work.
22:20You haven't made my life!
22:21I've been living out for the last three months.
22:23You slut!
22:24I don't want you to come anywhere near me, you piece of...
22:28What's the message in me?!
22:30You catfished me as...
22:32Claire, you absolute...
22:35You fat lady slob!
22:36So we asked him,
22:37did you set up the fake Facebook account in the name of Claire
22:40and you said no. Why did you say no?
22:42Telling the truth.
22:43The test says you're a liar, pal.
22:45During your relationship with Andy,
22:47apart from the one time you've just admitted to,
22:49have you passionately kissed anyone else?
22:51You said no. Why did you say no?
22:52Cos I didn't.
22:53Well, the test says you're a liar as well.
22:57In fact, let's be perfectly honest,
22:59you failed every single question, including intercourse.
23:02You catfished her and you slept around.
23:04Why the hell are we having this kind of...
23:06There's nothing but dirty...
23:11Well, that went well.
23:12Now, after that show, Andy says that Susie is still harassing him
23:15and even accusing him of sleeping with her best friend Stella.
23:18Once he proves his allegations are false,
23:20he says he never wants to see either of them again.
23:22Did he have sex with Stella?
23:24Does he like a Stella? I don't know.
23:26Andy's on The Jeremy Carr Show. That way.
23:32CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
23:35You all right? Fine.
23:37Excellent. Just help me out, cos I'm getting old.
23:40The lady with the blonde hair... Yeah?
23:43..you're not with her any more. No.
23:45She's called Susie. Yeah. Susie the floozy.
23:47Susie what? The floozy.
23:49Susie the floozy.
23:52The other woman is...
23:54Who are you today? Who are you today?
23:57Are you Andy today? Who are you today?
23:59I'm Susie, always have been Susie, darling.
24:01Get back in your box. No, Roger, you get back in your box, you little...
24:05..idiot. Have you heard yourself?
24:07You're not manipulating me again.
24:09Just do one, will you? No. It's not your show, is it?
24:12Could you do one a minute? No.
24:14Please? No. Please?
24:16Don't wink at me.
24:20CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
24:25There's a woman in the front row, quite a glamorous lady,
24:27who said, what's catfishing? Notice I've got the glamorous in there.
24:30You don't know what cat... You catfished her, didn't you?
24:33Yes. Oh, you did? Yes.
24:36Obviously.
24:38What is...
24:40What? Sit down.
24:44Yeah, come on, what does catfishing mean?
24:46Sit down. Answer him.
24:49I've got really a clue, don't I?
24:52You don't know what you did to her? No.
24:55Pretended to be a woman.
24:57You pretended to be a woman? Apparently.
25:00What do you mean, apparently?
25:03Right, anyway, basically, you lied to her and she lied to you.
25:07Sit down, she admitted she's cheated.
25:09Why are we... Cos going to bed with him's like going to bed with a book.
25:13She wasn't very complimentary about your sexual techniques.
25:16Well, I thought you were.
25:18You're back today because she's accusing you
25:20of sleeping with her friend Stella.
25:22Apparently so. I didn't accuse him, he's told everyone he has.
25:25Have you slept with Stella? No.
25:27No, I haven't slept with her,
25:29but then you thought they were a couple of lesbians.
25:31We are a couple of lesbians.
25:32How do you know they're a couple of lesbians?
25:34They sleep in the same bed in the living room.
25:40I haven't slept to my own for six weeks cos I've got a new boyfriend.
25:44Shows what you know, doesn't it?
25:47Me harassing you?
25:48You're the one sending messages to her,
25:50pretending to be...
25:52..you.
25:58How long were you with her for? Only three months.
26:01The worst three months of my entire life.
26:04Mine too.
26:05Are you not in love with her any more?
26:07Good God, no.
26:10So you're here to clear your name, you didn't sleep with Stella
26:13and then you want them to get on with their lives?
26:15You absolute...
26:17..come to Jeremy Cole's show.
26:22CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
26:32Oh, don't leave me.
26:34Son of a... Poor state of affairs.
26:39So has he explained to me what we're here for?
26:41You're not with him, are you? You did cheat on him.
26:43I told him I had.
26:45All right.
26:46He makes me go to sleep.
26:48The other guy made me scream. Which are you going to choose?
26:52Which are you going to die?
26:54Why does it matter to you? You sent her to sleep.
26:57She admitted one.
26:58Yeah, I did.
27:00Yeah, that's one.
27:02He made you scream?
27:04Not him, no.
27:06He made me scream with disgust, yeah.
27:09Was he no good at sex?
27:11I can't remember cos he got me paralytic twice that I slept with him.
27:15Yeah, Lord...
27:17So I wasn't paralytic, do you want to see the pictures?
27:20You got yourself paralytic.
27:22He says...
27:23I bought my own mushroom vodka, did I?
27:25No, you did.
27:26You asked me to buy it. No, I didn't.
27:28It's like last time I was at your offer.
27:30Babe, on your way...
27:31Did you not message me, my Stella, two nights ago,
27:35saying, can you stand around with Susan because Andy needs to speak to her?
27:39He says you're a prostitute.
27:41Listen, I don't charge you.
27:43What? I said, why would I charge?
27:47I said he's catfishing.
27:49Right, for a year and a half, I was talking to a girl called Claire,
27:53who I believe to be a girl.
27:54She was telling me her mate Andy really liked me.
27:57He's writing to me.
27:58It turns out this psychopath was Claire's...
28:03And he failed the test.
28:05Why don't you just say to her, I'm Andy, instead of be a woman?
28:08Cos he knows he wouldn't stand a chance.
28:10Have you seen it?
28:11Well, you've seen it, haven't you?
28:12I know, all desperate.
28:14I tell you what, next time you jump off a pier, love,
28:16do a proper job and do it properly.
28:18Next time, come with me so I can actually get you out of my life once and for all.
28:22I'll push you off.
28:23Why are you two so hateful?
28:25Why are you two so hateful to each other?
28:28Is it sexual tension?
28:30Listen, he's not hated between me.
28:32Have you seen his wall?
28:33His what?
28:34His Facebook wall.
28:35I thought you said his willy for a moment there.
28:37No, you need a magnifying glass.
28:39Susan, Susan, Susan, Susan, Susan.
28:42Look at my wall, it's full of me and my new boyfriend.
28:44He is obsessed, he can't leave me alone.
28:46Why can't you leave her alone?
28:47Hey, I'm not leaving her alone.
28:48So why are you posting about me still three months later?
28:51Why are you sending me flyers from Blackpool?
28:53I'm what, hotel flyer?
28:55I work in a hotel now.
28:57No, I don't.
28:58So why would I send him a flyer from a hotel?
29:00So he's showing a lie detector today,
29:03he says to prove that he hasn't slept with Stella,
29:05your mate who allegedly you might have had a lesbian fling with.
29:07Well, no, I've never had...
29:09I like younger girls, not people like that.
29:12I am bisexual, yes.
29:14You are bisexual?
29:15Yes, yes.
29:16No, I don't even share a bed with her cos I don't stay at home.
29:19She's 40, she's too old for you?
29:20Yeah, yeah.
29:21So you prefer a younger girl?
29:22Did you know she was bisexual?
29:24I did, yes.
29:25Yeah, of course you did.
29:26He knew everything about me,
29:27he's just a reject from Wigan.
29:30Where was he?
29:31In Birmingham.
29:34My husband lives in Birmingham.
29:37She said in my quote,
29:38he looks like and lives like he's going to a permanent funeral.
29:41He does, yeah.
29:42That's how she described you.
29:43Tell me he doesn't.
29:45Did you have sex with Stella?
29:47No.
29:48If he said he didn't, why are we doing a bleeding light?
29:50Because he's gone round telling people he actually has.
29:53Why have you told people you haven't?
29:55Yes, you haven't got the screenshots of the lot.
29:57I don't believe she has.
29:58You did get a bit suspicious that they had.
30:00Yeah, because when I write, she's my friend of nine years.
30:03Is she?
30:04Me and Andy fell out.
30:06Andy quickly had to move in with him.
30:08No, no, no.
30:09Pictures on Facebook of them together drinking and all the rest.
30:11So, yeah, I did have suspicions.
30:12However, she said she hasn't.
30:14If she has, she ain't coming back to my flat,
30:16cos I'd put her up.
30:17You don't go there anyway.
30:18No, but she ain't coming back to my flat anyway,
30:20and I've to ask me and her...
30:22She is a bit old. How old is Stella?
30:2440.
30:25That's not old.
30:26No, but it's too old for me.
30:28She's not much hotter.
30:29I'm 52.
30:30Oh, well, maybe I can make an exception for you.
30:36My, the benefits of doing this show.
30:38Er, Stella's on to Jeremy Cash.
30:40How that way?
30:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
30:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
30:50Are you a lesbian?
30:51No, I'm not, and I've never slept with him. Never.
30:55So why are you telling people? You do look a bit dodgy.
30:58I've never said anything to anyone about...
31:00You told a friend? Why do you think you slept with me?
31:03She set a Facebook account up in my name.
31:06Did you?
31:07I wouldn't set an account up in your name!
31:09Only when you're drunk.
31:12Me people, you're an old case.
31:14You're the one who brought sign of war.
31:16Thank you, Claire, for my lovely tea.
31:18Then you write back to yourself as Claire.
31:20It's OK, babe, that was lovely. Thank you for having me.
31:23That's you! I love it!
31:25What are you doing?
31:28I genuinely don't know what you mean.
31:30You pretended to be somebody else, to write to yourself,
31:32to then write back to yourself as a person who doesn't exist.
31:35Thank you for taking those cheap nasty butterflies.
31:38It's how you are.
31:40Him on your friends list, you would be, too.
31:44I'm glad I met you, mate.
31:47What is a friend... What's a friends list?
31:52Well, that's your friends that you have on Facebook, isn't it?
31:55I don't know. Yeah.
31:57Come on, Jess, you're not that old.
31:59You've done this show for long enough.
32:01Do you know what a friends list is on Facebook?
32:03I don't know what a friends list is.
32:05He's educating. I'll show you later.
32:10So, interestingly, probably for the first time in the history...
32:13Why are you grinning?
32:15Oh, hello. Why are you grinning?
32:17Dan again. Dan again.
32:19Why are you grinning? It's your problem, Dan.
32:23Steve, you are in trouble.
32:25Always am.
32:27You all right? Yes, Mr Kyle.
32:28Anything changed from your last appearance on the show?
32:30No, thank you.
32:31You want to tell the nation what you had done this morning?
32:34No, Mr Kyle.
32:35You had your eyebrows waxed.
32:38He had his eyebrows waxed!
32:45In a very first for the Jeremy Kyle show,
32:47you're on here saying,
32:48I haven't slept with Stella, I don't need to prove it,
32:51and Stella came out and said, I haven't had sex with him.
32:53So quite while we're doing this, I've no idea,
32:55but you said it's because he's been telling everybody in Blackpool.
32:58Yeah, cos he's an absolute...
33:00...fool, you!
33:03You freak!
33:07...to where you work.
33:09To Birmingham, actually.
33:10I don't live in Birmingham!
33:13You moved to Birmingham in January.
33:15Is that another lie?
33:17No, I haven't told you I moved to Birmingham.
33:19You told me I'm homeless.
33:20I live in the same place I did when I lived here before.
33:23Came to the last show, you demented...
33:26Sorry, he's not...
33:28...useful, there's nothing useful about him.
33:30Nothing useful about you, either.
33:31Oh, well, you seem to think so,
33:33considering I'm plastered all down your wall.
33:35No, you're not.
33:36Oh, Susan this, Susan this, call Susan this, Susan that.
33:39I ain't even got a mobile phone,
33:41cos I dare him, cos of you.
33:42Yeah, because...
33:43Send your message out!
33:44Yeah, I can send it.
33:45Send it to Susan.
33:46Andy needs to speak to her.
33:48She hasn't got a mobile phone,
33:49cos the one I bought her, she had to sell to Customs.
33:52Why don't you just leave?
33:53Smash it!
33:54Why don't you just leave her alone,
33:56because you're giving her...
33:57Andy, I want nothing to do with her.
33:59Well, stop messaging me, then!
34:03No!
34:04I mean, I was just sitting in my own house,
34:06and I did not expect you to be messaging my friend for me.
34:09What do you mean?
34:11No one's ever had no kids or missus.
34:17Why are we doing this?
34:19You told me you're homeless.
34:20I've been telling her to leave me alone,
34:21and to find out if she actually did.
34:23And if she did, what happens to your mate of nine years?
34:25She ain't my mate no more.
34:26Clearly wasn't my mate in the first place, was she?
34:29CHEERING
34:30I wouldn't do that to you anyway.
34:32Andy, have you ever had sexual intercourse with Stella?
34:35You said no.
34:36Why did you say no?
34:37Telling the truth.
34:38He was telling the truth.
34:39He hasn't had sex with her.
34:41So that's a bit flat, that, isn't it?
34:43Well done.
34:44Cos he said he hadn't done anything.
34:46But he's gone round telling everybody he has.
34:48He's asked every question,
34:49which means he hasn't had sex with your mate.
34:52Now, it's been...
34:53I just want to say this in a very calm way.
34:55It's been thrilling meeting you all again,
34:57but I don't want you to ever come back.
34:59No, well, tell him to stop mailing me.
35:02Stop mailing her.
35:03And start messaging Stella.
35:04And start messaging Stella.
35:06I've got nothing to do with them.
35:07Well, then...
35:08Don't start texting me!
35:10Don't you dare!
35:14Wow!
35:15Stop shouting.
35:16Simple right, Andy.
35:17You live in Wigan, I live in Blackpool.
35:19Yeah.
35:20Where you come from?
35:21Do not contact her or me again!
35:23I won't.
35:24Get it that clear!
35:25Thank you, gentlemen.
35:26In your head!
35:27It's a...
35:29LAUGHTER
35:32Bye.
35:33Bye.
35:34See you.
35:35CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
35:39What are you supposed to say?
35:40I'll let you know.
35:41Right, my next guest today,
35:42Rhys, he's here for all important Live Detectives as well,
35:44with his partner Hope.
35:45He says that Hope, he hopes,
35:47not,
35:48has a reputation for sleeping around,
35:50he's found flirty messages to other blokes
35:52and he came home to find another man in her house.
35:54Ooh!
35:56In her house.
35:57Rhys says if she fails the Live Detective, the relationship's over.
36:00He's not been very complimentary towards Hope.
36:02He's got a lot to say for himself.
36:03Rhys is on The Jeremy Carl Show, that way.
36:05CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
36:10All right, sir.
36:11Welcome to the show.
36:13Hope's your girlfriend.
36:15Yeah.
36:16A bit older than you, isn't she?
36:17Yeah.
36:18How long you been with her?
36:19Four and a half months.
36:20Do you love her?
36:21Yeah.
36:22Why so rude to her, then?
36:23Why does she cheat on me?
36:24Let's have the story. How did you meet?
36:26Snapchat.
36:27Snapchat?
36:28What does that mean?
36:29So, what, you were trolling your Snapchat thing
36:31and you saw a picture of a woman you thought,
36:33I like, and so you chatted her up?
36:35She added me.
36:36She what?
36:37She added me.
36:38She thought I looked good, apparently.
36:40Now, you told my team,
36:41I want to expose my lying, lazy, waste-of-space girlfriend.
36:46Yeah.
36:47So, after five months, nearly, it's not going great.
36:50Was it good at the beginning?
36:51No.
36:52Is that your girlfriend?
36:53Yeah.
36:54Why do you think she's cheated on you? Let's have some facts.
36:56Well, she thinks flirting's not cheating
36:58and I've seen her flirting with her ex-boyfriend,
37:00saying that she can share beds with him, this, that, the other.
37:02Living with hope is hell, the house is a tip.
37:04Yeah.
37:05I do everything, she's a lazy... is what you said.
37:07Yeah.
37:08Yeah.
37:09It's already the way to endear yourself to a woman, is it?
37:12I was nice to her at first, but then she treated me with disrespect.
37:16You said you can't wait to see her squirm on national television,
37:19you're not coming over very nicely.
37:21Have you got... Come on, mate, give me more than that.
37:24Have you seen or got any proof that she's cheated?
37:27She's admitted to me once,
37:28well, I found out that she cheated with another boy once already.
37:31Already? Have you cheated on her?
37:33No.
37:34Who's Jake?
37:35The boy that she cheated on me with, also her drinking buddy.
37:38He says she...
37:39Hope and Rhys's relationship's a joke,
37:41they argue constantly over cheating allegations.
37:43I hate him, he controls her.
37:45I admit that me and Hope had a drunken snog, but it meant nothing.
37:48Rhys needs to grow up and get over it.
37:51You say... I mean, I'm not trying to be rude here,
37:54but you describe your girlfriend as a lazy woman,
37:58she spends her entire time flirting with other men,
38:01she drags you down, she's got no personal hygiene
38:05and she's even growing a moustache.
38:08Um, why are you with her?
38:11Love her.
38:12You love her?
38:13Yeah.
38:15Well...
38:16I'm somewhat lost.
38:18If Hope fails, I'll be leaving her for sure.
38:21Hope is on the Jeremy Carl Show.
38:25This way.
38:29I'm the truth, you admit it to me.
38:31You kissed a girl a few days ago, I stink.
38:34You make me look like a mug on telly, are you stupid?
38:37There's one that cheats on me all the time.
38:39One kiss and I admit it to you.
38:41How many boys have told me that you're sleeping with them?
38:44I admit it to you, I cheated once and that's it.
38:48Invite an ex-boyfriend over to go see your grandad.
38:50This test will prove that I ain't cheated on you.
38:52It's only been 18 weeks, why did you cheat?
38:54And why don't you wash more?
38:56I do wash.
38:57I'm sure you do.
38:58I do clean the house.
38:59He says you're lazy.
39:02He's always on his Xbox and on his phone.
39:04On his what?
39:05Xbox and his phone playing stupid...
39:08I'm so angry I can't talk.
39:10Little boy games on his phone and Xbox.
39:12Why are you with him? He loves you, apparently.
39:14He doesn't love you for your personal hygiene,
39:16he loves you for your personality.
39:20Why were you kissing Jake, basically?
39:22I heard a rumour that he kissed another girl.
39:25So you heard a rumour that Rhys was... What?
39:27I heard a rumour that he kissed my friend.
39:29No, brilliant.
39:30Also, she sent me a picture of them two in bed.
39:32Who sent a picture of you?
39:34The girl that he apparently kissed.
39:36Is that true?
39:37Yeah, it is.
39:38But...
39:42So you sit there like Butterwood and Mel,
39:44slagging your girlfriend off,
39:45saying she's got a moustache and a big backside,
39:47which is patently not true, by the way,
39:49just because you can't grow that moustache,
39:51am I allowed to point that out?
39:52And then you admit that you spent the night in bed
39:55with one of her friends.
39:56Not that nothing happened.
39:57Not the night, because I was at hers,
39:59having a drink up while she paid for it,
40:01and then she dumped me because she couldn't get her own way
40:03of getting sick all over the bed, so me and her friends left.
40:08Do you work or do you just sort of walk around in sneak...
40:11College.
40:12He lives off my money.
40:13He lives off your money?
40:14Yeah.
40:15Why are you with him?
40:16Cos I love him.
40:17Unfortunately!
40:18What do you love about each other? You hate each other!
40:21APPLAUSE
40:27He said... Before I go to the break, William,
40:29I'm going to share this with you.
40:30He said, if she fails, I'm gone,
40:32but if she passes, we're going to have a night of passion.
40:35She said, if he passes, he better get on my knees
40:38and apologise and suck my toes.
40:41Back in a minute, thanks.
40:43Have you cheated on him?
40:45No.
40:46Are you sure? Yeah.
40:47How many people think hopes are cheap,
40:48but you're out of them here?
40:51Since the start of your relationship with Rhys,
40:53have you passionately kissed anyone else?
40:55And you said no, didn't you?
40:56Why did you say no?
40:57Contemptry.
41:03It's getting worse, yes?
41:04I need your help and I'm not leaving this stage
41:06till I get your help.
41:08I want my life back.
41:10Give me a chance to prove you wrong.
41:11What do you mean?
41:12Give me a chance to prove you wrong.
41:14I want to see her.
41:15I want me kid.
41:19My name is Emma.
41:21And I believe I'm your daughter.
41:24This is my last chance.
41:26I've always thought about you.
41:28Get in contact.
41:32She got a full house!
41:36It's your grandchild.
41:39We'll sort this, OK?
41:40I promise you.
41:41Listen, it's all right.
41:43He wants to be a dad.
41:44He wants to have a relationship with his child.
41:47He's your dad!
41:50You will, today, go to repub.
41:53You are the child's father.
42:01You can change it.
42:02If there's anybody out there who thinks I can't,
42:04come and get Jeremy's help.
42:05Trust me.
42:08If you're 16 or over and you'd like to be considered for the show,
42:11then email talk at ITV.com along with your number.
42:14You need to text the word TALK plus your name to 63334.
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42:37Before the break, we met the dynamic couple named Rhys and Hope.
42:41Why are you together?
42:43Dunno.
42:44Being thrown in jail would be more fun than sitting talking to you two.
42:48He's already been in prison.
42:52Honestly, I really... I do... I can't...
42:55Well, anyway, have you cheated on him?
42:58No.
42:59Are you sure?
43:00Yeah.
43:01How many people in the audience think that hope springs eternal
43:03and, in fact, she has cheated?
43:05How many people think hopes are cheap? Put your hands in the air.
43:08How many people hope that hopes are cheap?
43:10No, I'm joking.
43:11How many people hope that hope's not cheated?
43:15We are...
43:16We are...
43:20Did you get that shot?
43:22Cos, I mean, I'm not having a go, right,
43:24but it's not an awful lot to ask, is it?
43:26How are you, anyway? We like to do a weekly update
43:28cos you've had a hard time recently.
43:30Are you all right, yeah?
43:31Are you sure?
43:32Are you sure?
43:33Why did you get embarrassed?
43:34No.
43:35Are you sure you're OK?
43:36Cos I worry about you.
43:37You've worked here a long time, you haven't been happy
43:39and we're a family and we love you, all of us, OK?
43:42And if it ever becomes as desperate as it's beginning to think,
43:45we'll club together and buy you something, all right?
43:53Hope admitted to kissing one person, Jake, on one occasion.
43:56OK, so we asked her,
43:58since the start of your relationship with Rhys, the happy one,
44:00apart from the one occasion you've just admitted to,
44:02have you passionately kissed anyone else?
44:04And you said no, didn't you?
44:06Why did you say no?
44:07Because I'm Jewish.
44:08This test says you're a liar.
44:12Sorry?
44:13Cos I didn't.
44:14You what?
44:15No, I didn't.
44:16Since the start of your relationship with Rhys...
44:20Oh, it's my fault now, is it?
44:21No.
44:22Why didn't you get up?
44:23No, you've had sexual contact with another,
44:25you said no, this test says you were lying on that one as well.
44:28OK.
44:29In fact, you lied on all three questions.
44:33Yes?
44:34Can I have that, please?
44:35OK.
44:36Told you it's all...
44:40What...
44:42Oh, God.
44:45Oh, God.
44:47I'm sick of walking.
44:50Why don't you all just go home instead of make me follow you?
44:55Where have you gone?
44:57Wherefore art thou?
45:01You were right.
45:03You were spot on right, son.
45:06Spot on right.
45:08Now, listen, be quiet, audience.
45:10Look, can I just...
45:11I know you're not going to listen to me
45:13and I know you think...
45:14Stu, get in here a minute.
45:15I know you think that, like,
45:17what I'm going to say is going to sound harsh.
45:19You're young, you should be having fun,
45:21you shouldn't be in a relationship that's causing you so much trauma.
45:24Patently.
45:25I mean, I know I'm boring, he's boring as well,
45:28but at your age, just 18-ish, right,
45:32you shouldn't be doing this.
45:33I'm not saying you should be out and being promiscuous,
45:35I'm saying you should be out having fun with your mates.
45:38If you find somebody, have some fun, be safe.
45:41Just the one thing, help me out,
45:43do you not think everybody's growing up too quick?
45:45Too quick.
45:46Too quick? You're 18, man.
45:47And the one way that I knew she was lying
45:49is because she said flirting's not cheating.
45:51It isn't.
45:52At the end of the day, mate, it's too serious.
45:54You've plenty of time to be serious
45:56and plenty of time to be dragged down
45:58and plenty of time to be worrying about stuff,
46:00but really, I'm not going to chase after her.
46:02She's blatantly cheated on you.
46:06But you don't need to do that, you can be dignified,
46:08you don't need to sit there and...
46:10If that's not what you thought she was, you're very young,
46:12move on, don't slag her off, rise above it,
46:14be dignified and find somebody better.
46:16Yes?
46:17We'll take you with Stewie, we'll sort you out.
46:22What's she doing now?
46:25What does she want now?
46:27Do you know what?
46:28I'm going to get a motorised scooter round this studio
46:30and I'm not jumping on your back again
46:32cos I'll break me wrist.
46:34We stand by the test a lot, you're a cheater, aren't you?
46:36You're 22 years of age, I'll say to you what I said to him,
46:39you're both young, you're both...
46:41Why are you even in a serious relationship?
46:44Just enjoy your life.
46:45You know the test is right and so do I, don't try and lie.
46:48It is right, isn't it? I'm not lying.
46:50Really? Yeah. Your face says you are.
46:52Good luck, you might need it. I'm moving on.
46:58I know I'm getting old,
46:59but I just want to say this before we finish today.
47:01This is like a plea.
47:03If you're that age, just, you know, be sensible but have fun,
47:06don't get tied down cos life will no doubt catch up with you.
47:09I'm for this morning out of time.
47:11If you want to be on my show, you need my help.
47:13Visit my website, the details are on screen.
47:15To my guests in this audience and to you four watching at home,
47:17you know who you are, I'll see you soon, take care, bye-bye.
47:20CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
47:36MUSIC