The Jeremy Kyle Show (3 April 2018)
The Jeremy Kyle Show (3 April 2018)
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00:10On today's show...
00:12I am here because I want access and also DNA.
00:16She's not getting any self-hygiene, she can't even brush her teeth!
00:20Come on! You'll get nothing!
00:26You say I'm out here today because I'm gonna prove that Emma stole the gold.
00:29Oh, you don't have to excuse me! I'm not really sick of this!
00:34Do you think that I'm seriously talking?
00:36I don't know.
00:37We asked Emma, did you steal the gold out of Tracey and Nigel's bedroom cupboard?
00:41You said no. What did you say?
00:48I've been out for years, but he's just come on by and he's thinking he's owning it and stuff.
00:52He says he can click his fingers, he'll get any man and he laughs.
00:55Tell me about the song.
00:56This song.
00:57Oh, God.
01:00LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
01:07Have you used the sex lines?
01:09Not recently, no.
01:10How many people think Stu's been on the sex lines? Put your hand...
01:13They all do, the whole place.
01:19CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:30Oh, my God!
01:36Hello, my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:39Now, you might just remember my first guest today from a previous encounter.
01:42Take a look at this.
01:45I found out that he'd been cheating on me with a couple of girls.
01:48So it wasn't just the one.
01:50Two?!
01:51No, it wasn't just two, either.
01:52How many was it?
01:53Three or four.
01:56How many times has she cheated on before?
01:59Only twice that she knows about.
02:01Only twice she knows about?
02:03How many other times? I don't know about them.
02:05We asked you, Phil, since you restarted your relationship with Jade in March,
02:09have you passionately kissed anyone else?
02:11You said no. Why'd you say no?
02:12Cos I'm telling the truth.
02:13And do you know why he's smiling?
02:15Cos he's a liar.
02:16LAUGHTER
02:17What is that? What is that rubbish?
02:19I've not kissed anybody behind her back.
02:22You've failed every single question, pal.
02:24That's rubbish.
02:26How can you do this to me?
02:32Jade, Jade.
02:33How are you lying? How are you lying?
02:35You know you've done something cos that's what they come back saying.
02:38You're lying if you've done anything at all.
02:40Jade, Jade.
02:44Now, unsurprisingly, Jade stuck to her guns and the two split up.
02:48However, and that's written in capitals this morning,
02:51it is Phil who is back claiming he's been wrong,
02:54he's demanding a DNA test on the baby,
02:56he says that Jade was violent, she had numerous affairs
02:59and even left him for an older bloke that he describes as a sugar dad.
03:02He's going to insist that if the DNA proves he's the dad,
03:06he's going to get regular, unsupervised access.
03:10This guy means business.
03:11Phil's on The Jeremy Carl Show, that way!
03:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
03:19Good to see you. How you doing?
03:21I'm good, I'm good.
03:22Welcome back.
03:23Welcome to my life.
03:24I haven't even opened my mouth and Jade's given it large already.
03:27I want to hear Phil's side.
03:29Your accusation is that this lady, last time it didn't come out,
03:34yeah, you made a mistake,
03:35but you stand by the fact that that test was wrong, that's your right.
03:39Let's talk about this baby, Carl.
03:42So why are we doing a DNA test?
03:44We're doing a DNA test because at the time,
03:48I've got wee doubts, you know, I had doubts at the time,
03:52but obviously when I seen my son... Shut up!
03:54You're allowed to go in the bathroom!
03:56Obviously when I seen my son, that's when I realised he was my son.
03:59Be quiet! I'll get to you! Sit down!
04:02In the day, why I'm here, cos I want a DNA... Louder, my friend.
04:06In the day, why I'm here, cos I want access and also DNA...
04:09How old's the child? A year.
04:11Why are you not having access? What's happened?
04:13Oh, because she's left half way a sugar daddy,
04:15somebody to look after her.
04:17I told my team, not only did she leave you, but she was...
04:20Shut up! You're a cheat!
04:22A dirty little... that likes to sleep in boots.
04:24She's not got any self-hygiene.
04:26She can't even brush her teeth!
04:28Really? I'm not...
04:32You're doing nothing!
04:34Watch my TV!
04:36Watch my TV!
04:38You're a wee brain! You're a wee brain!
04:41That's what you are.
04:43You need to get yourself mental help, by the way.
04:48Let me get you up and...
04:50Hold on a minute! Sit down!
04:52I am sick to death of people destroying my sets.
04:56I know, I know. It's terrible.
04:59Terry, sort that out!
05:02It's my flooring!
05:04You'll get a charge if you're on my floor now!
05:07Sorry. Just let him speak.
05:09When you come out like that...
05:11Listen, you might be right, but when you come out like that,
05:14everybody will go, that's the sort of mother she is.
05:16So just chill!
05:21She wanted to go through the courts to get this sorted out,
05:24but now she wants to go down here to get the 15 minutes of fame.
05:27You say, I had doubts, she cheated on me,
05:30she left for a sugar daddy,
05:32and now we have a scenario where she is playing God
05:35with a child that I love, that I bonded with.
05:38When you say playing God, what do you mean, buddy?
05:41Playing God with my son,
05:43only deciding when I can only see my son in horsey, so...
05:47It's a bit pathetic.
05:49It's a bit pathetic and a bit wrong.
05:51Stay quiet!
05:52You say that she uses, this is a really interesting comment,
05:54you said she uses your son almost as a fashion accessory.
05:57A fashion accessory, aye, that's it.
05:59She uses my son as a fashion accessory.
06:01She doesn't like to go and take my son out to parks or whatever.
06:03All she likes to do is leave my house and then go out
06:05into another friend's house just to go and sit in, lounge about.
06:08But she's taking the kid to the park there.
06:10You say... Oh, my God, that noise.
06:12This was just a couple of weeks ago.
06:14You say that she's a lazy mum.
06:16Lazy mum that cannae do a washing,
06:18she doesnae know how to brush her teeth,
06:20I've got to tell her to go in for a shower.
06:22You say she takes drugs, she's violent,
06:24she spends money on weed.
06:26Jade's on the Jeremy Carl show, that one!
06:31You're a liar! You're a liar!
06:33You're a waste of space, you're nothing...
06:35I'm a liar, I'm a liar.
06:37You're the one who's been running your socials!
06:39You've been running your socials telling them that, haven't you?
06:41You wouldn't even know what the truth is if it smacked you in the face.
06:43Mate, that's you, that's you.
06:45Look, you're just showing yourself, you're a complete idiot.
06:47You're the one who's slowed down nothing.
06:49Where have you been the past three months?
06:51Jade, slow down, I can't hear you!
06:53You never message on your own birthday.
06:55I can message you. The night before is nothing.
06:57The night before is nothing.
06:59Jade, I want to talk to you.
07:01Phil, please be quiet.
07:03I'll prove Phil is the dad.
07:05It's rich from him.
07:07This guy...
07:09Sorry?
07:11How old are you, Phil?
07:13How am I, 30?
07:15How many kids have you got?
07:17That's nothing here, we're not here for that.
07:19How many kids have you got, Phil?
07:21We're not here for that.
07:23I'm asking you a question, pal, cos she told us
07:25you've got ten children.
07:27Ten children.
07:29Five.
07:31Five children.
07:33Five children.
07:35Five children.
07:37Do you see those children?
07:39Do you see them, Phil?
07:41Five children.
07:43I'm not here to answer that.
07:45That proves I'm right.
07:47You want to fight for him,
07:49you want to fight for that boy,
07:51but you don't fight for all your other ones.
07:53Jade, I'm not here...
07:55Do you pay for the other five, Phil?
07:57Doesn't pay for any of them.
07:59Do you pay for this child, Phil?
08:01As they say,
08:03why would I pay for a child I don't get to see?
08:05Stole your child at the end of the day.
08:07You only pay for a child you don't get to see.
08:09She says
08:11you've got ten kids, you pay for none of them,
08:13you see none of them, you pay nothing for this child,
08:15and rather than her being the cheat,
08:17you made somebody else pregnant behind her back.
08:19That's pathetic.
08:21No, not pathetic, because you were messaging that last week.
08:23Actually, we were not together.
08:25Matter of fact, we were not together.
08:27We were together, because you sent me
08:29the pregnancy test on Facebook, if you can remember.
08:31We were not together at the time,
08:33and this is the time when she fell pregnant.
08:35She's said she's cheated on 20 women.
08:37Maybe more, maybe more.
08:39Why did you stay with him then?
08:41See, I actually gave it a go for the sake of the wedding,
08:43but then, nah.
08:45He gave me chlamydia when I was pregnant.
08:47Yes, I was nearly seven months pregnant.
08:49Nearly seven months pregnant.
08:51And he's obsessed with weird porn.
08:53He's obsessed with porn all the time.
08:55I asked you, I've had seven...
08:57Don't make our son a bottle.
08:59Did you do it? No.
09:01You're in the worst porn.
09:03Are you expecting me to let my son run about you?
09:05I'm not going to listen to you, man.
09:07You're just a waste of space.
09:09Go and get your hygiene sorted.
09:11Coming from who?
09:13You're one of your kids.
09:15You're a waste of space for nothing.
09:17You've just shown yourself.
09:19You're a hot-headed, tempered, stupid little idiot that you are.
09:21What's that?
09:23Is that a thing?
09:25I swear to God,
09:27that was really uncalled for.
09:29Oi, get off.
09:31Let me put this another way.
09:33I've listened to him being criticised for five minutes.
09:35You've made an accusation
09:37about him being on drugs.
09:39He took a drugs test and clear,
09:41and you refused.
09:43I refused what?
09:45Because it's not in court.
09:47Because...
09:49No, no, no.
09:51Listen.
09:53You've got to take both sides if you do my drugs.
09:55He's done a test.
09:57Shut up.
09:59You refused to. Why?
10:01Because it's not in court.
10:09Listen to the content.
10:11Get off.
10:15Get off.
10:17Get off.
10:21Can I ask a question,
10:23be it a court in England or Wales or Scotland or Ireland?
10:25Why do we live in a world that says...
10:27Right, hear me out.
10:29You have the baby, okay?
10:31This guy, quite rightly,
10:33has to prove that he's not on drugs,
10:35he's not a danger,
10:37he's not drinking,
10:39he's the right sort of person to be around the child.
10:41Right? Yeah? Stop.
10:43Because you're the mother.
10:45You have to prove that you're not on drugs.
10:47How unfair is that as a system?
10:49I'm not saying that.
10:51You should prove it as much as him.
10:53Get your tits on.
10:55Get your tits on.
10:57Right, you want to... All right, stop.
10:59You want to do it right now.
11:01You'll do it during this ad break.
11:03Go and do it. We'll go to a break.
11:05She's promised. Take a seat. We'll see.
11:07Go and do it now.
11:09Back after the break.
11:11But do you want to do me a favour?
11:13Chill.
11:15What, raging Bill? Get back here and talk to me.
11:17Sometimes,
11:19I'm not being funny out there,
11:21let me find these capers.
11:23That's the steering wheel, go one way or the other.
11:25Kiss, man.
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12:05So before the break, you saw the exes screaming and shouting,
12:07which don't do the right thing.
12:09He did a drugs test, accusations were made by her.
12:11He did a drugs test, he passed, she'd refused.
12:13She said during that break, I'm going to do it.
12:15I want to talk to Phil while she's in the loo.
12:17Phil, this is a child that matters to you.
12:19Aye, I love my son unconditionally.
12:21How convinced are you that she's on drugs?
12:23Well, considering her frat friend, Alana.
12:25Let's not, let's not.
12:27You see, every time you feel like you get somewhere,
12:29you let yourself down.
12:31It's like Alana coming out screaming and shouting.
12:33It's not about people's egos, it's about the kid.
12:35Are you convinced the mother's on cocaine?
12:37No, I've been told stories.
12:39I've been told stories.
12:41Have you ever seen her take drugs?
12:43Have you ever seen her take drugs?
12:45Have I seen her take drugs?
12:47No, no, no.
12:49We're just waiting, Grey, yeah?
12:51Yeah.
12:53I don't want to see him!
12:55Why are you shouting?
12:57No, no, I'm having it.
12:59Do you want to do me a favour?
13:01Just calm down and we'll get this sorted.
13:03Just chill.
13:05Have you done the test?
13:07Just wait.
13:09All right, we'll get the results.
13:11You want me to kidnap your son?
13:13Sorry, can I just say something to you?
13:15I don't know who you are.
13:17I was about to...
13:19Right, let's hear from you.
13:21I keep saying to people, can I do this properly?
13:23Explain to me briefly. Stay there, Phil.
13:25Who are you?
13:27I'm Jude's sister. We grew up together.
13:29We grew up together.
13:31My family took me in.
13:33No problem, no problem.
13:35What's your take on this story?
13:37It's ridiculous. He's full of lies.
13:39All she wanted to do was sort it out with him.
13:41End of day, she wanted to go through courts.
13:43I was wanting to go through courts.
13:45Did he cheat her or did she cheat her in?
13:47Would you rather see your way before you go to court?
13:49What is it? You're the one all day sitting there
13:51talking to me like, you need to come on the show.
13:53You need to sit and get on the show.
13:55Are you trying to embarrass me?
13:57You've already said everything.
13:59Are you trying to embarrass me?
14:01Are you trying to embarrass me?
14:05Hold on a second. Stop, stop, stop.
14:07Can you do me a favour and stop?
14:09Steph, what did she say?
14:11The drug test shows negative for us.
14:13She's clear as well.
14:15Why would she do that as a mother of a baby?
14:17Come here.
14:19Why would she do that?
14:21You're just,
14:23you're just, that doesn't help.
14:25Can you hear me, please?
14:27Right, let's go on the stage.
14:29Phil, chill him and get him on the stage.
14:31Get him out here and get him chilled out.
14:33Calm down.
14:35Give him a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.
14:39Chill, chill.
14:41Seriously, how did you two ever even create a life
14:43if indeed you did? Where is she?
14:45Stay there, Phil.
14:49Can I ask a question?
14:51Why is it when I want people on this stage...
14:53I need you out there now.
14:55I'm getting kicked out by you.
14:57Come with me.
14:59Now, I'm going to say this very, very calmly to you when we walk on.
15:01I don't care if you hate him
15:03and he hates you.
15:05I don't care who's done what to what.
15:07I care about this kid.
15:09The truth, I'm trying to sort this out.
15:11You did the right thing.
15:13You're not listening.
15:15When you launch yourself at him, I was trying to say
15:17that you've got nothing...
15:19Because he's standing up to her.
15:21He's not going to swear up to her.
15:23We're in a controlled environment.
15:25But we will protect her.
15:27You need to get the moral high ground.
15:29Now, come out here and let's do it properly.
15:31I know it is.
15:33And I love your loyalty to her.
15:35I do. I really do.
15:41Don't. Just leave her.
15:43What's your take on this story?
15:45It's ridiculous.
15:47Phil says that you're quite close to him
15:49and he's quite surprised by your reaction today.
15:51I've spoken to him twice.
15:53What's your view?
15:55Is that a fat greaseball?
15:57I wouldn't touch him.
15:59I've been saying that since...
16:01Phil asked me to kidnap his son.
16:03He's deluded.
16:05She was about to talk to her own sister.
16:07His son is better off without him.
16:09You're doing it again, Phil, you're talking over.
16:11Why would you make a decision whether he's good enough
16:13to be in his son's life or not?
16:15You're not even the biologically related.
16:17APPLAUSE
16:19Have you ever seen him be violent?
16:21No.
16:23I've seen him when he loses his temper.
16:25I've seen your dad do it.
16:29You tell my team
16:31that Phil is not interested in any kids
16:33and that's what his track record shows.
16:35Phil is only interested in sex.
16:37He's tried it on.
16:39You think he'd have tried it on with you.
16:41It's all about sex. It's not about kids.
16:43That's what she says. Wait. Is that right?
16:45Has he tried it on with you?
16:47He's...
16:49You can't even make up what you want to say
16:51because you're talking rubbish.
16:53I said what I wanted to say to you
16:55because I know for a fact you'll go back and say to her
16:57when she's already turned on and told me
16:59that you're no really good, pa, because you mix up stuff.
17:01I don't want to see your birthday.
17:03OK, then, OK, then.
17:05National TV only will hit me because
17:07I've got a customer waiting for seats here.
17:09Sit down, Phil. He wants unsupervised contact
17:11despite the fact he tried to kidnap Carson.
17:13Why would I even consider
17:15giving him contact without supervised contact?
17:17I don't want unsupervised contact.
17:19I don't want unsupervised contact.
17:21I want weekend access.
17:23Not going to happen.
17:25Is he a death threat?
17:27Is he a threat to that child?
17:29He's threatening to kidnap my son and take him away from me.
17:31Whenever I threaten you, you get the proof
17:33and show me that I've threatened you.
17:35Why don't you stop him from having access?
17:37Not a word, because we're going to get there in May.
17:39He's threatening to kidnap my son.
17:41No, no, no.
17:43You said you can't...
17:45You said you can't see the kid.
17:47That was because you were convinced he was on drugs, yeah?
17:49He's drug-free.
17:51He's not treating anything.
17:53Where's my weekend access?
17:55No, no, because...
17:57You said you wanted...
17:59Over my dead body.
18:01Over my dead body.
18:03You're going again, are you?
18:05Get up and talk to me now.
18:07How are you?
18:09I'm talking to you.
18:11Get up and talk to me.
18:13Get up and talk to me.
18:15Get up and talk to me now.
18:17I'm not leaving you until we see my son.
18:19Have we done the DNA yet, by the way?
18:21Have we done the DNA yet?
18:23We don't even know if it's your kid yet.
18:25Please do the DNA.
18:27If you stop walking off, I might be able to...
18:29You're just showing yourself.
18:31Can I have the DNA, please?
18:33That's what you're doing.
18:35You think you can whistle on me?
18:37You think I'm going to come running back to you?
18:39Are you still in love with him?
18:41I'm sure. I'm sure.
18:43I hate having my passion.
18:45Do you think that's going to be any...
18:47I'm not the first thing I hate.
18:49It's always going to be that part of me.
18:51It's the father and my son, but that's it.
18:53What do you think your kid would make of this?
18:55You are the child's biological father.
18:59Why is it a game about who has the cards?
19:01It's my cards.
19:03It's my cards.
19:05He said he wasn't the father at that meeting.
19:07I didn't say that.
19:09Can we please, before I have a breakdown,
19:11which will please a lot of people...
19:13Thank you, Alana. You go that way.
19:15I'll get you in a minute.
19:17No, you'll get her when I say to get her.
19:19Thank you, Alana. It's been a pleasure.
19:21Goodnight. God bless. You two are adults.
19:23Get here.
19:25You are the mother of this child.
19:27Why did you even come here?
19:29If you don't...
19:31Phil, we'll have space.
19:33Steve, just stand in the middle for God's sake.
19:35Just be quiet.
19:37I'm trying. I'm trying.
19:39Bad-tempered person.
19:41I'm not quick to fly off the temper, so...
19:43Graham, if I lose it and start beating my head
19:45against a wall, I might need some help.
19:47Can I just say something without the two of you saying a word?
19:49Mm-hm.
19:51Despite this...
19:53It's all about Carson, yes, I know.
19:55Yes.
19:57But it is.
19:59You don't have a...
20:01Stone whistle, because that makes you look like an idiot.
20:03You don't have a great track record, yes or no?
20:05I'm not on drugs.
20:07You are not on drugs. Nope.
20:09But you've got to understand, from our point of view,
20:11that, and I hope you know this of me,
20:13if I saw a bloke or a woman
20:15in front of me in any which way
20:17that I thought that they were dangerous
20:19or a liability, I would absolutely
20:21put the weight of what I say.
20:23Do I think this... Please don't interrupt me.
20:25You won't like this, but if you interrupt me,
20:27I will lose it.
20:29Do I think he's a danger? No.
20:31Do I think he's reliable? No.
20:33If I was you... Shake your head.
20:35I frankly don't care.
20:37But I'll tell you what I'm going to say to you.
20:39If I was you, I'd be smart.
20:41I don't think he'll see it through
20:43if you consider his track record,
20:45and then you'll be able to show your kid that you tried.
20:47So let's stop screaming,
20:49let's take the higher moral ground.
20:51I'm looking and we can't access.
20:53That's obviously what people are going to think,
20:55whether you like this or not, because of the track record.
20:57Maybe, I take what you said in the pod,
20:59that this is the moment you turn your life around.
21:01What you two have to understand,
21:03whether you like this or not...
21:05You all right, Steve? Lovely.
21:07Is that this child...
21:09Come on.
21:11Deserves better than this.
21:13Why?
21:15And in the end,
21:17and I say it a lot, I know,
21:19but I can never think what else to say in 16 years.
21:21You want me on drugs.
21:23You're doing it again, you just shouted at each other.
21:25You don't listen.
21:27You both have a responsibility to Carson.
21:29Our job is to make you both see the other's point of view
21:31and try and facilitate, if we can,
21:33what's best for him.
21:35I'm going to leave you with Graham.
21:37Listen, just a breath.
21:39We'll leave you with Graham.
21:41Try and think of Carson, yes or no.
21:43Even you argue about that.
21:45I'm going to give it to the big man.
21:47You can decide in a bit, we're going to a break.
21:49We'll leave him with Graham, back after this.
21:51You caught her red-handed on CCTV,
21:53nicking your wallet.
21:55We asked Emma, did you steal the gold
21:57from the bedroom cupboard? You said no.
21:59What did you say?
22:05Is this your phone?
22:07No.
22:09That's clearly come from somewhere.
22:15Is someone you know leading a double life?
22:17Maybe you suspect your partner
22:19of having a baby or an affair with someone else.
22:21If you're 16 or over
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22:51My next guest, Nigel, is here for all important lie detector results.
22:53He's absolutely adamant that his partner's
22:55best mate of 27 years
22:57has stolen their entire collection of gold.
22:59Why? Because he's already caught her
23:01red-handed on CCTV in the past
23:03stealing his wallet.
23:05He insists that, if Emma fails the lie detector today,
23:07he will make sure his partner
23:09Tracy never, ever, ever
23:11sees this woman again.
23:13Nigel's on the Jeremy Carl show. That way.
23:15That's a strong handshake.
23:17Just one thing.
23:19Your partner's Tracy.
23:21Tracy's backstage.
23:23Very difficult for her.
23:25Yes, very difficult.
23:27Really, really emotional.
23:29Doesn't want to be out here.
23:31Sat in the green room, I think, with Graham, listening.
23:33You say I'm out here today because I'm going to prove
23:35that Emma stole the gold.
23:37A lot of gold. A big value.
23:39Substantial amount.
23:41Why do you suspect this woman?
23:43But she's been your partner's
23:45best mate. She's not been my friend, though, really.
23:47Well, you've always had doubts.
23:49Can we go back to this story? You caught her
23:51red-handed on CCTV
23:53nicking your wallet. How long ago was that?
23:55A while back.
23:57A year or so ago. Explain what happened.
23:59Well, I'd been to the shop,
24:01dropped my wallet outside the shop.
24:03Didn't realise I'd dropped it. Realised when I got in
24:05she'd come to our house
24:07and all after picking it up.
24:09With the... So she had the wallet on her?
24:11She had the wallet on her, but she didn't tell me about it.
24:13She told us she didn't know it was yours
24:15and she took 15 quid that was in the wallet
24:17and put the wallet back, and that's what happens.
24:19No. I went to her house to get the wallet.
24:21Now, let's talk about the gold. Was it a break-in?
24:23What's the fact behind the story? Tell me.
24:25Well, someone's took it from upstairs
24:27out of our bedroom, you know.
24:29Out of Tracey's cupboard.
24:31And she was in the house? Yeah.
24:33She's had the opportunity to take it, you know.
24:35Your daughter Zoe,
24:37yours and Tracey's daughter, has put out
24:39on social media that she's a tea leaf.
24:41Yeah, yeah. This is for you, by the way,
24:43Emma. Zoe says,
24:45I know for a fact that Emma has something to do with
24:47the jewellery going missing. She's stolen off my dad
24:49before. She's been caught red-handed on
24:51CCTV. She can't deny that.
24:53She was a close friend of my mum's, and it's
24:55absolutely broken my mum's heart
24:57that the gold's been stolen. I admit
24:59I posted a Facebook status warning people
25:01about Emma, but once a thief, always a thief.
25:03If she passes, I will apologise.
25:05But, if she fails,
25:07she will never, ever, ever
25:09set foot through my parents' door ever
25:11again. Do you expect her to fail?
25:13To be honest,
25:15I'm hoping not, but yeah.
25:17Emma's on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
25:29Hi, Jeremy. How are you, love?
25:31Absolutely marvellous, fantastic.
25:33As for your wallet,
25:35your wallet were outside the shop. There were no
25:37ID saying it was yours.
25:39No, no, you listen, you've had your
25:41money there.
25:43Nobody else had a wallet like that, Emma.
25:45Nobody had a wallet like that.
25:47There was nothing in the wallet.
25:49No, no, there weren't at all.
25:51There were 15 quid in there.
25:53Why would you take the money out of a wallet rather than take it
25:55into the shop and say somebody's dropped that then?
25:57Well, yeah, I should have done.
25:59Yeah, yeah, I should have done.
26:01But in all fairness, there were no ID
26:03in the wallet whatsoever, and sometimes,
26:05I'm not being funny here, Jeremy, finders keepers.
26:07As for stealing, go on where I was,
26:09kiss my...
26:11LAUGHTER
26:13When you discovered that the money
26:15was in the wallet and it was his wallet,
26:17did you tell him?
26:19After what?
26:21If you find out you're guilty, you know what's
26:23going to happen.
26:25What's going to happen to her?
26:27Everything's going to happen, Emma, believe me.
26:29You think Facebook were bad?
26:31You think Facebook were bad?
26:33What are you going to do then, are you threatening her now?
26:35No, I'm not threatening her.
26:37I did threaten her, you know what I mean?
26:39I didn't tease you.
26:41LAUGHTER
26:43Do you think I'd have brought you here?
26:45You didn't bring me here, I told you.
26:47Who told you to ring up?
26:49Who told you to ring up?
26:51Who told you to ring up?
26:53You told us you said it was her.
26:55Who told you to ring up?
26:57Yeah, because it was her.
26:59You didn't fetch me here, did you?
27:01Oh, wow, not a taxi did.
27:03LAUGHTER
27:05When you found out...
27:07You don't get clever on your own.
27:09Oh, you don't have to...
27:11You're only sick of me.
27:13You're only sick of yourself.
27:15Not even, not even.
27:17Not even, not even.
27:19You weren't my friend anyway, you'd already said that.
27:21Yeah, I'm not, I'm not.
27:23There's your mate who's struggling backstage.
27:25Have a look, you've been friends with this lady
27:27for 27 years.
27:29What's it like being accused?
27:31Be quiet, you, you didn't say...
27:33Well, get it right, it were 19 earlier,
27:35now it's 17.
27:37I've been with Tracey for 19 years,
27:39that's how long you've known us, 17 years.
27:41What's it like being accused by your mate of 27 years?
27:43She hasn't accused me, she hasn't said it direct to my face
27:45or accused me, it's him who's said it.
27:47You say you're being slandered.
27:49It's him who presumes, do you know what I mean?
27:51It's him who presumes like it.
27:53You say you've lent them money before,
27:55they've looked after money for me,
27:57he's done stuff for me, I've done stuff for him.
27:59You know what I mean, this is more of a shock to me
28:01than what it used to be.
28:03Tracey, I know it's difficult for you,
28:05do you believe in the heart of hearts that your mate of 27...
28:07Do you believe...
28:09Face it, on national TV, you answer this question
28:11to me as a friend, well,
28:13I'm asking her if she's my friend, not you.
28:15You in your hand, the heart of hearts,
28:17do you think that I've seriously took it?
28:19I don't know.
28:21Yes or a no? I don't know.
28:23Come on, Tracey. I don't know.
28:27You're more... Wait a minute.
28:29What if she has, Tracey?
28:31Now that that's done,
28:33if she hasn't,
28:35then I'm...
28:37I'm sorry for...
28:39Their daughter, I read that statement,
28:41has publicly, via, I don't know,
28:43social media, called you a thief.
28:45You haven't answered my question,
28:47have you?
28:49That's before I even found out.
28:51I remember that it was his wallet you'd nicked the 15 quid out of.
28:53Did you fess up and give him the 15 pound back?
28:55I most certainly did.
28:57No, she didn't. She never told me about the 15 quid.
28:59She said there was nothing in it.
29:01She said...
29:03She took the money out of it before you got the wallet.
29:05This gold, there were a lot of sentimental things.
29:07I don't know, cos I don't know how much gold.
29:09I don't know what kind of gold. Did you nick the gold?
29:13No. How many people in the audience
29:15think that Amber's telling the truth and she didn't nick the gold?
29:17How many people think she is a TV...
29:19No.
29:21No.
29:23You're not very happy, are you?
29:25No.
29:27Not my fault.
29:29This went on Facebook, this, before I even knew anything.
29:31So they didn't approach me,
29:33just in case of, you know, Facebook.
29:35Emma, do you know that you're a thief?
29:37I have a lot of kids, I go to school.
29:39We asked Emma, did you steal the gold
29:41out of Tracy and Nigel's bedroom cupboard?
29:43You said no.
29:45I'm telling the truth.
29:47I know.
29:49You're gorgeous.
29:51You're gorgeous.
29:53He's gorgeous.
29:55I don't, I don't, I don't.
29:57What did she say? He's gorgeous.
30:01I'll get it to take you home if it says
30:03all telling the truth all the way through, that's true.
30:05That's good.
30:07When we do theft lie detector, we ask if somebody's complicit,
30:09i.e. do they know, do you know for sure
30:11who stole the gold out of Tracy and Nigel's bedroom cupboard?
30:13No. Emma said no.
30:15I think you should come with me
30:17and we should talk to Tracy.
30:19Steve, you can come as well.
30:21You can come as well if you want to say sorry.
30:23Stevie?
30:25Here you are, darling.
30:27You OK?
30:29I knew straight away.
30:33I'm sorry, Emma.
30:37I'm sorry, Emma.
30:39I'm sorry, Emma.
30:41I'm sorry, Emma.
30:43I'm sorry.
30:45His attitude always...
30:47I'm so glad.
30:49His attitude always, he can kiss my...
30:51Hold her on Twitter, I accept your apology.
30:53I'd have stolen her shirt, I'd have a cup of tea with her
30:55and all that.
30:57Him, he can...
30:59He had no right, no reason to have that attitude
31:01at all with me.
31:03And the way he's gone about it, even there on stage,
31:05the way he's gone about everything,
31:07well wrong.
31:09Well wrong.
31:11Well wrong.
31:13Told you it weren't me right from day one.
31:15Why didn't you believe her?
31:17I think she did.
31:19What's this saying about you trying to split me and her up?
31:21Why do you not like this lady?
31:23I don't look like her.
31:25Because she's totally different to what she used to be like.
31:27I've known her a lot of years.
31:29I've known her all her life, nearly enough.
31:31What do you mean, she's different?
31:33She's different, she's changed.
31:35She was more confident.
31:37Aren't you just protesting?
31:39Why are you apologising to her?
31:41I'm apologising, I didn't make a mistake.
31:43She was...
31:45I'm not saying it, I can't say it because I'm not allowed to,
31:47but she was one of the suspects.
31:49Yeah, but you made it out like she was a tow-rag
31:51and she was a thief.
31:53Your daughter put stuff everywhere.
31:55No, I didn't, my daughter did.
31:57Why are people like you always the one to everyone else?
31:59I'd be going...
32:01She's to blame, Jason.
32:03You scared of him, are you?
32:05You just didn't tell him what you said?
32:07Without any proof.
32:09Did I slate her?
32:11Yeah, you did.
32:13I didn't put it on Facebook.
32:15I'm not bothered about Facebook, I'm out there, you were slating,
32:17you said she's no good, what's she done wrong?
32:19You just said she's...
32:21Well, you said about me that I'm going to be...
32:23What about, sorry for what happened, pal?
32:25I'm so sorry.
32:27Whatever, James, you need to be like,
32:29even when you talk to me about this,
32:31you've never been like that.
32:33I don't want to say it on TV because...
32:35I don't care what people tell you.
32:37I don't want to do it because I won't do that to you.
32:39I won't say that about you and stuff on TV.
32:41I don't care, no-one can say shit about me
32:43because I've done nothing but turn it over there.
32:45You can stay at Tracy's, mate, can't you?
32:47Yeah, he can kiss me until he says a proper sorry.
32:49You're going to kiss him back, sorry.
32:51I will apologise to her, yeah.
32:53Look at him.
32:55I apologise to you, you should know I would apologise,
32:57I said that to you from the beginning.
32:59I said I'd apologise if you were out.
33:01You did, didn't you?
33:03It's like his attitude, Tracy, do you know?
33:05Whose attitude?
33:07You get a reward for passing the test.
33:09Come here, come here.
33:11Stand up, stand up, stand up.
33:13I think you should carry her out the building.
33:17Carry her, Steve, pick her up.
33:19There we go, that's it, that's it.
33:21Do you hear what I'm saying?
33:23Do you hear what I'm saying?
33:29Well, she's happy.
33:31He's passed the test and being carried off into the sunset
33:33by the big man.
33:35Right, let's continue.
33:37My next guest today, Dan, contacted this show
33:39because he's convinced that his on-off boyfriend,
33:41Seb, has been cheating on him with women.
33:43Ooh!
33:45Dan surfaced after Dan found a suspicious red thong
33:47hidden under the sofa.
33:49Ooh!
33:51Dan says that if Seb fails the test, their relationship's over
33:53and he can take the thong and do one.
33:55Dan's on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
33:57CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
34:01Woo!
34:03Sometimes when I wake up in the morning,
34:05I think, my God, you do the Jeremy Carl show.
34:07This morning I woke up and I read this and thought,
34:09I'm 52 and I'm going to do a story about a red thong.
34:11Welcome to the show, Danny Boy.
34:13Thanks a lot.
34:15You and Seb, how long were you together for?
34:17You're not together right now.
34:19No, we're on a break at the minute, we've been together since May.
34:21I'm his first, I've been out for years,
34:23but he's just come out and he's thinking he's owning it and stuff.
34:25I love that.
34:27He's just come out, I think he's owning it.
34:29What do you mean, owning it?
34:31He says he can click his fingers, he'll get any man, any lass.
34:33There's Mr Little Lover Man over there.
34:35Mr Lover Man.
34:37Why do they do that?
34:39Smug little face.
34:41I'm here for make or break lie detector results.
34:43Has my boyfriend been cheating with women and men?
34:45But he's not your boyfriend.
34:47Is there a way back if he passes this test?
34:49Are you still keen on him?
34:51If he passes it, then I'll start out, but I know he ain't going to pass.
34:53Why? Tell me about the thong.
34:55This thong.
34:57This one.
35:03I don't wear that.
35:05That's not mine, is it?
35:07Don't tell me where that's come from.
35:15Your...
35:17It could be his.
35:19Well, if it's cross-dressing, then that's on a different show, isn't it?
35:21So you're...
35:23So you're at home...
35:25Doing the cleaning.
35:27Thong-a-thong-a-thong-a-thong.
35:29I find it.
35:31So you're at home, and you...
35:33How did you discover this?
35:35I was cleaning up, sorting the back of the couch out,
35:37and it was just there.
35:39I snapchatted my mate, I was like,
35:41is this a joke? And she was like, that's not mine.
35:43Why would your mate have a thong on the back of your sofa?
35:45Does she tend to come round and take her knickers off?
35:47When we get ready for a night out,
35:49she'll sleep on the couch and stuff,
35:51and I mean, I was like, has this dropped out your bag?
35:53Has this come from you?
35:55And she said no.
35:57So your next assumption is that this is Seb's.
35:59He's been with around 40 women.
36:01Yeah, he says he's been with around 40 women.
36:03This is his first gay relationship,
36:05and I won't be made a fool of with...
36:07100%. Are you doing a lie detector?
36:09Yeah, accordingly, because I'm accusing him.
36:11I've got something to hide as well, so I said, yeah, I'll do one.
36:13I ain't got nothing to hide.
36:15Can you get Seb on the Jeremy Carlson, please?
36:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
36:21Is this yours?
36:23Well, I'm not that big, am I?
36:25I don't know, is he?
36:27I didn't mean that.
36:29So...
36:31It's a nice colour, though.
36:33Is this your thong?
36:35No.
36:37That's clearly come from somewhere.
36:39Talk to him!
36:41He's the bisexual one, I mean...
36:43He's the bisexual one.
36:45It makes sense, doesn't it?
36:47So you basically feel you can get anybody, men or women,
36:49if you just stick your fingers, yeah?
36:51Basically. Why is that?
36:53I'm not good-looking, so... You know what?
36:55I'm not good-looking, so...
36:57Did you cheat on him? No.
36:59Explain the love bite on his chest.
37:01Talk to each other!
37:03What love bite on his chest?
37:05Talk to him, not me!
37:07So what's this down there, then?
37:09I bruise easily, this is a genuine fact, and you know this, right?
37:11I've knocked myself at work, I've come back and he's all like...
37:13There's a difference between knocking yourself on a...
37:15You can smell what on your breath?
37:17He knows. What?
37:19I work in a bar, so what I've done is I've bent down
37:21to get the glasses from underneath. Stop at that point, you've what?
37:23I've bent down to get the glasses from underneath.
37:25There we go, shut up.
37:27Smacked myself on the way down, I've gone home and he's like...
37:29How does smacking yourself with a crate end up looking like?
37:31You know what? A crate is the drainage bit
37:33on the bottom of the pump.
37:35But it looks like someone's been sucking on it.
37:37I can't, literally can't stand him at the minute.
37:39Look at each other!
37:41Cos I cannot stand him and he knows I can't stand him.
37:43Why can't you stand him?
37:45I've got all the evidence I need.
37:47The thong, getting in and out of girls' cars.
37:49He's Mr Little Lover Man.
37:51You click your fingers, you get anybody.
37:53I go around Dole and everybody says,
37:55oh, there's Seb, there's Seb, still with him, still with him.
37:57Not cheated on you yet.
37:59So you think he's failed and you think he's failed?
38:01Yeah.
38:03Where are you now?
38:05Wilson the Corridor trying the thong on him.
38:09He wanted you to do a test cos you came back with a love bite,
38:11you say it was a hose.
38:13I didn't know that, I meant in a pub thing.
38:17We asked Dan, since the beginning of your relationship with Seb,
38:19have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
38:21He said no. What did you say? No.
38:23So I've told him the truth.
38:25Of course he was telling the truth!
38:27In fact,
38:29Danny Boy passed every single question.
38:31Give him a round of applause.
38:39Are you going to apologise, big man?
38:41Yeah, I'm sorry.
38:43So you're happy now? You're going to pass, aren't you?
38:45You've got to wait three minutes for that.
38:47Back in a minute, don't go anywhere.
38:49We asked Seb, since the beginning of your relationship with Dan,
38:51have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
38:53Seb said no. Why did you say no?
38:55I've told him the truth.
38:57How many people think shoes beat on the sex lines?
38:59But you're adding that they all do, the whole place.
39:01How can I admit something I haven't done?
39:03How can I admit something I haven't done?
39:34APPLAUSE
39:43Thank you very much indeed. Welcome back.
39:45Before the break, we'd scaled the heights of the Jeremy Carr show
39:47with Dan and Seb. Dan said,
39:49I'm in a relationship with Seb. It was his first gay relationship.
39:51He's come out as bisexual. He thinks he's God's gift to men, women,
39:53in fact, almost everything.
39:55But I came home the other day, I was rummaging round the back of the sofa,
39:57as you do, and there was this tantalisingly skimpy...
39:59Why did I say that?
40:01He must be sleeping with women.
40:03He's not a cross-dresser. You're as cocky as him.
40:05You come out here, you lie on your back.
40:07Are you going to pass this test? Did you say sorry to him?
40:09Yeah, of course I did. Sorry? Of course I did.
40:11He is quite cocky, isn't he? He is cocky.
40:13Are you going to pass? Yeah.
40:15We asked Seb, since the beginning of your relationship with Dan,
40:17have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
40:19Seb said no. Why did you say no?
40:21I've told him the truth. He was telling the truth as well.
40:23APPLAUSE
40:25In fact, Danny boy, Seb's got a full house.
40:27He told the truth on every single question.
40:29APPLAUSE
40:31Do you want to tell him the truth now?
40:33LAUGHTER
40:35It must be cross-dressing. It's yours, isn't it?
40:37It's yours.
40:39APPLAUSE
40:41It must be cross-dressing.
40:43It's yours, isn't it?
40:45APPLAUSE
40:47It must be cross-dressing.
40:49APPLAUSE
40:51It must be cross-dressing.
40:53It must be cross-dressing. It's yours, isn't it?
40:55I wish. I wasn't saying that.
40:57Do you want to try it on? No, you can later, though.
40:59Do you want to try it on? I'll try it on.
41:01Do you want us to...? Why don't you put it on over your jeans,
41:03just to prove it doesn't fit?
41:05Oh, God.
41:07This show gets weirder by the minute.
41:09APPLAUSE
41:11Look at that perfect fit.
41:13We'll be back tomorrow, Jeremy.
41:15CHEERING
41:17APPLAUSE
41:19You feel really stupid now, don't you?
41:21I do actually feel genuinely stupid,
41:23but I've actually mugged myself off now.
41:25You haven't mugged yourself off, you've found the truth.
41:27Go and talk to Graham and make it work.
41:29Good luck. Give him a round of applause.
41:31CHEERING
41:35Good luck to them, actually.
41:37No!
41:39Right, the next guest, Vicky, is on the show with her partner, Stuart.
41:41Check this, he doesn't get any better,
41:43because she suspects he's been secretly calling sex lines behind her back.
41:47CHEERING
41:49She's got a 120-quid phone bill the dirty man's been doing.
41:51She says, I'm going to be furious if he fails the test,
41:53and I'll tell you something now, she said,
41:55if he does, we are done. Vic's on the Jeremy Carr Show that way.
41:57CHEERING
42:03How are you, mate?
42:05All right. I love your comment to my team.
42:07I like your shoes. Thank you.
42:09She said you're more worried about the 120 quid.
42:11He's got form, though, hasn't he?
42:13Yeah, he only admitted to me last night that he's done it
42:15at the beginning of the relationship.
42:17What did he admit last night?
42:19At the beginning of the relationship,
42:21he's been ringing the sex lines before he actually...
42:23What do you mean a sex line?
42:25A sex line, I've never used one myself.
42:27Steve, have you used a sex line?
42:29120 quid, what did it say on the bill?
42:31Did it say sex lines?
42:33No, it's what happened is,
42:35because what they did is cut me internet off,
42:37so I've rang the supplier up,
42:39they've said it's 09 numbers,
42:41which I said, well, I don't know what 09,
42:43which ones they are.
42:45I don't, I don't know how to send a message.
42:47So, they've basically looked up online on Google,
42:49and it's come back as sex line numbers.
42:51So, is he the only person that...
42:53Yeah, I think so.
42:55Well, why are we doing a lie detector?
42:57Well, I think...
42:59Oh, it's David's wife!
43:01LAUGHTER
43:03He thinks it's you.
43:05Yeah. Is it you? No.
43:07Why would you ring your... What?
43:09Well, I don't understand why...
43:11So is Stuart on the phone lines being panted at,
43:13because he hasn't had sex for six months? No.
43:15Why? Cos I push him away,
43:17cos just things happen in a relationship.
43:19But he's on the phone, a dirty git.
43:21Exactly. Stuart's on the Jeremy Carr show.
43:23That way.
43:25APPLAUSE
43:31I'm not going to let you come back!
43:33I'm not going to put him...
43:35I'm not the only one that lives in the house, am I?
43:37You're the one
43:39stood there mouthing off, yeah?
43:41Leave yourself! Sit down!
43:43So, do you not go to bed or nothing,
43:45or if I fall asleep or anything like that, do you not?
43:47Hello?
43:49Stuart, have you used the sex lines?
43:51Not recently, no.
43:53LAUGHTER
43:57When was the last time you used them, Stewie baby?
43:59About 12 years ago.
44:01When was the last time you used one?
44:03LAUGHTER
44:05APPLAUSE
44:07What?!
44:09Never, cos I have sex
44:11without ringing a stranger to try and facilitate it.
44:13I've got more stranger than you.
44:15APPLAUSE
44:17My question is...
44:19Hold on a minute, what happens on a sex line? Tell us.
44:21Well, you should know, you ring them enough.
44:23LAUGHTER
44:25Listen, I don't mean to be rude.
44:27It's ten years since I rung one.
44:29You said it was 12 a minute ago.
44:31Why can't you just be honest?
44:33I am being honest.
44:35I've told you.
44:37How many people think Stew's been on the sex lines?
44:39They all do, the whole place.
44:41There we go.
44:43Come on, Stewie, just say you have.
44:45No, why would I say I have when I haven't?
44:47You've been on the old panting hotline, Stewie.
44:49So?
44:51Why did you admit to me yesterday?
44:53At the beginning of the test,
44:55Stuart stated that at the start of his relationship with Vicky
44:57he did call sex chat lines, but claims he's never done it
44:59using Vicky's phone whilst living in her house.
45:01How long you been with her?
45:03Just short of three years.
45:05So you lied, then, about ten years and 12 years.
45:07It was three years ago.
45:09About three years.
45:11LAUGHTER
45:13Yeah, but you still did it.
45:15We asked him, did you use the phone in Vicky's house
45:17to call any sex chat lines?
45:19She said no. Why did you say no?
45:21Because I was telling the truth.
45:23Blow me down, he was lying.
45:25LAUGHTER
45:27You know what?
45:29LAUGHTER
45:31CHEERING
45:33APPLAUSE
45:39Why, little Stuart?
45:41I haven't even done it, Vicky!
45:43I swear!
45:45I swear down!
45:47Do you know what?
45:49It's not going to change anything, is it?
45:51I haven't...
45:53done it!
45:55LAUGHTER
45:57Why what?
45:59I haven't done it, Vicky!
46:01Why what?
46:03Why have you done it?
46:05The provider said there were sex phone lines.
46:07You're the only one in the house.
46:09You failed the test.
46:11This is nothing to do...
46:13I've brought you here, but it's obviously said you're lying.
46:15It's just said that I'm the only one moved in the house.
46:17What about your brother?
46:19Mate, you failed the test too, but we can put this right.
46:21Just admit it and we'll make it work.
46:23I haven't done it!
46:25It's obvious you've done it.
46:27I have not!
46:29Why have you failed the test, then?
46:31I don't know why I failed it.
46:33I asked it, but I'm not...
46:35He has cheated!
46:37The point I'm trying to say is you haven't cheated
46:39and I'll just admit it and we can try and put it right.
46:41I'm not admitting something I have not done!
46:43It's said you're lying.
46:45I don't care what that says.
46:47So that's a lie?
46:49Do you not care about our relationship?
46:51If I didn't care about the relationship,
46:53I wouldn't have got a lie detector, would I?
46:55What did I say to you for weeks on end?
46:57I want a lie detector.
46:59The point is that I haven't done it.
47:01If I had done it, I would not have been willing
47:03to come for a lie detector.
47:05But you failed.
47:07I don't care because I know I haven't done it.
47:09Well, that says different.
47:11I don't care what that says, but I know I haven't.
47:13He hasn't cheated, though.
47:15How can I admit something I haven't done?
47:17He hasn't cheated, though, has he?
47:19No, he's not cheated, but...
47:21So you love him, don't you?
47:23So just admit it and we can make it right.
47:25How can I admit something I haven't done?
47:27You're not going to get anywhere
47:29in this relationship
47:31unless you just tell me the truth.
47:33Vicky, how can I tell you the truth
47:35about something I haven't done?
47:37So what are we going to do?
47:39Sit in the room and have a chat?
47:41She loves you, you love her.
47:43He hasn't cheated, has he?
47:45But I can't forgive this if he just sits and tells me the truth.
47:47But how can I tell you...
47:49Vicky, you sit and tell me the truth.
47:51I cannot sit there and say
47:53I've done something I haven't.
47:55End of day, I can't move on
47:57until you sit there and tell me the truth.
47:59Why don't you sit with Graham?
48:01He likes to... Seriously,
48:03Graham will sort this out.
48:05I have not done it.
48:07You love each other, don't you?
48:09Yes, I do.
48:11I've got a call to make. It's a high-quality number.
48:13Just...
48:15What?
48:17Good for you.
48:19See you soon together.
48:21We're done for today. I'm off to make a phone call.
48:23See you later. Bye.
48:49Bye.