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The Jeremy Kyle Show (27 Jan 2017)
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00:10On today's show, she has a child that is a year's age. Today we're doing a DNA test. You tell my team, I hope to God this kid isn't mine.
00:20You say the brother's a joke? He wants to be a wrestler in an MMA fight, he needs to grow up.
00:26Don't you dare flag my daughter, how dare you.
00:32The DNA test is up, show that Alan.
00:37I come to your address to drop off a car and I have to scrub my feet in muddy puddles when I come at you, filthy tramps, how about you?
00:45Nick, Nick you're not a bank robber.
00:47Barry, shut your mouth.
00:49Emma, you shut...
00:51Oh, what, what are you going to do?
00:56Are you pregnant?
00:58Why did you refuse to do a pregnancy test?
01:01You're six months pregnant, you're not a scam.
01:26Hello my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:28Now my first guest today, Alan, says that he couldn't believe it when he heard that his ex-girlfriend Angelina was claiming that he was the father to her kid.
01:35He says he had a briefish fling with Angelina who used him for money and cheated on him and he claims there are at least two potential dad to her daughter and he's here today to find out if it's him or not.
01:47Big day, Alan's on the Jeremy Carr Show, that way.
01:49Welcome to the show, mate, you OK?
01:51Yeah, glad to find you.
01:53Right, so Angelina's your ex, you're 22, Angelina's also 22.
01:57Let's just talk about this situation, why we're here today.
02:00You were with her briefly?
02:02Yeah, I was only with her for about a month or two.
02:04Oh, that's long term on the Jeremy Carr Show, yeah.
02:07Physical, obviously.
02:09Yeah.
02:14Did you say you were with her on the first night?
02:16Yeah.
02:17Did you say you were with her on the first night?
02:19No.
02:21Oh, come on, mate, wake up, you told me she came over on the first day, she wouldn't go away then, I couldn't get bloody rid of her, it was a nightmare.
02:26No, she'd like stay for like a week on end.
02:28Did she tell you she was pregnant before you split up?
02:31Yeah, she told me pregnant when she was with me.
02:34Right, so did she say it's yours, it might not be yours, you're definitely in the plate, what did she say?
02:39It was a lie.
02:41What?
02:43It was a lie, she was bringing on symptoms like back pain after like two days.
02:45She had lied about previous pregnancies?
02:47Yes, this is why.
02:49So you were dubious, but here's the reality of the situation.
02:51She has a child that is a year's age, today we're doing a DNA test, you told my team,
02:56I hope to God this kid isn't mine, they're all deluded, I don't want anything to do with them, what do you mean by that?
03:01Don't want nothing to do with them, right.
03:03You don't like the brother, Curtis, easy, you don't like her, there's Curtis with a hat on, you don't like her,
03:08well why are you grinning?
03:10This child could be yours, but you've moved on, you've got a new relationship, haven't you?
03:13Yeah.
03:14And isn't the new relationship that you're with, you've got a three-month-old child, and you said to my team, right,
03:20I'm happy, that child's everything, you don't want this kid to be yours, the big question, Paddy,
03:25is what are you going to do if it is?
03:27Then I'll just, I'll have to step up and be a father, but I've missed already a year, why wait so long?
03:32You should have done this a year ago.
03:35Why are you looking like that, you should have done.
03:38I didn't know if mine was yours.
03:40I told my team, if the kid's not mine, I'm going to have a party, come on.
03:44This child could be yours.
03:46You say the brother's a joke, he wants to be a wrestler in an MMA fight,
03:50she needs to grow up, that's what you said, Curtis is on the Jeremy Kyle show.
04:01That was never going to work, was it, you ridiculous human being?
04:05He might well be, but you don't do that, do you?
04:08I couldn't care less.
04:10Well, how do you make yourself look?
04:12You feel hard, don't you?
04:14Well, so do you, quite plainly.
04:16Obviously, you're lying, aren't you?
04:18How?
04:20You said a year, right, a year, it didn't take her a year, she told you on the day.
04:23Yeah, but she lied before.
04:25Why are you so angry with him, Curtis?
04:27Why? He treated my sister like a whore.
04:29Tell me.
04:31Every time she came home, she always told me that he was threatening to hit her,
04:34raise his hand to her, calling her all the names under the sun and everything.
04:37You're angry, but you've got to understand the way you show it isn't going to help anybody.
04:41I hate this man, he's all talk and no action.
04:43I've never trusted him, he's a bit strange.
04:45He thinks he's a big man, but he's not.
04:47True.
04:49He says that she slept around at home.
04:52Is he the father?
04:54I honestly don't think he is, to be honest with you.
04:56Well, wouldn't that be great for all sides?
04:58Yes.
05:00Because this guy's saying he's moved on, he's got a new kid and the kid means everything.
05:02What sort of mother is she? How's it been going for her?
05:04She's been brilliant.
05:05She's been brilliant ever since day one.
05:07He says he's going to have a party if the kid's not his.
05:09I suspect your family would do the same, wouldn't you?
05:11Well, if she's not yours, then that is kind of pathetic, to be honest.
05:16I don't want it to be mine.
05:18It could be your child.
05:20You think that's clever?
05:22I'm sort of with him now.
05:24You think that's nice, do you?
05:26Do me a favour, get a chair, let's bring your sister,
05:28the lady that might be the mother of your fucking child that you've just called here.
05:31Angelina's on the Jeremy Carr Show that way.
05:32Don't you dare slag my daughter off.
05:34How dare you?
05:36Saying that we slept together after two days
05:38and we were only together for two months.
05:40Don't give me that shit, Helen.
05:42He said you were together for one month.
05:44You know for a fact we were out for about six months,
05:46something like that.
05:48You know for a fact I asked you out.
05:50How dare you treat me like that?
05:52How long were you together, Angelina?
05:54Five months, Jeremy.
05:56He was the useless boyfriend our first time out.
05:58Yeah.
05:59Our first date was the local pub and a movie with his parents.
06:01Yep.
06:03The relationship was sour.
06:05He was controlling and possessive.
06:07He was, honestly.
06:09Ready for this, ladies.
06:11This is a warning in the United Kingdom.
06:13This man told this woman,
06:15I can't have kids because of the medication I take for my ADHD.
06:17He did.
06:19I'm not even joking.
06:21Two months.
06:23Is that right?
06:25When we're in a relationship.
06:27Is that just an excuse not to put something on the end of it?
06:29I don't think he's putting anything on the end of it
06:31because he's at least defending somebody's honour.
06:33His sister.
06:35And he isn't sat there calling a potential child of his it.
06:37How does that make you feel?
06:39Angry.
06:41How dare you say my daughter is an it?
06:43Don't you even dare.
06:45But I don't understand for all of you.
06:47Maybe Curtis will agree with me.
06:49Maybe he won't.
06:51It's a year.
06:53I've been here 11 years.
06:55Why wasn't this done 11 and a half months ago?
06:57If you have doubt, for now I'm going to go.
06:59I was out with two people.
07:01Him and someone else.
07:03So you slept with two people at the same time?
07:05No, I was out with someone else.
07:07We split and then months after me and Alan got together.
07:09It's not going to work months, is it?
07:11Even I'm not very good at maths, but I know.
07:13So he must be the dad.
07:15If you split with somebody and there was a break,
07:17he must be the dad.
07:19Yeah.
07:21What would that mean if he was the dad?
07:23Did you find out you were pregnant whilst you were with him?
07:25There was a time that I thought I was pregnant, yes.
07:27Because I was getting back.
07:29I wasn't pregnant at all.
07:31I was getting backache and morning sickness and everything.
07:33And I told Alan about this.
07:35And I took two pregnancy tests, Jeremy, right?
07:37One of them was negative.
07:39One of them was like a faint positive.
07:41How does it make you feel when he says that
07:43the child he's got with his current bird is everything?
07:46He's not interested in it.
07:48He doesn't want it in his life.
07:50That just makes me angry.
07:52I hate it when people...
07:54Still said nothing, big man, have you?
07:56The it, seriously.
07:57Then you should exactly provide for her, right?
07:59Exactly.
08:01Well, yeah, I will.
08:03How are you going to do that? Do you work?
08:05No.
08:07So you found out three...
08:09Why is that then? Why is that?
08:11I just don't.
08:13What do you mean you just don't?
08:15What does that mean?
08:17I don't have a job.
08:19Why not? Why don't you get off your backside
08:21and go and look for one then?
08:23Why don't you go and get a job?
08:25I'm looking, aren't I?
08:27He and I are completely on par with this.
08:30Completely.
08:32You are responsible as well.
08:34Yes, yes, I agree with that.
08:36Why didn't you? You just said,
08:38I didn't know its name for three days.
08:40Once you discover there's a chance
08:42and you don't know you're the father,
08:44who rang this show?
08:46I did.
08:48Why didn't you ring the show to find out
08:50if the kid's yours or not?
08:52Because I didn't know it was mine.
08:54I didn't have a clue.
08:55I didn't know it was a child's show.
09:02This I love.
09:04He's a great dad.
09:06Yeah, he is.
09:08What, to the kid that's his?
09:10How does he provide for this child?
09:12Does he ask? What does he do? Hang around with you?
09:14No, he doesn't hang around with me.
09:16Why is he such a good dad then?
09:18Because he obviously is.
09:20I've seen him with...
09:22What about with the child that could be?
09:23Could it be that she'd given birth?
09:25If there was a slight chance, let me ask you this, Ash.
09:27If a woman said to you a year ago,
09:29I'm about to give birth, the child could be yours,
09:31would you wait a year for her to phone the Jeremy Carr show
09:33or would you have gone and got a DNA test a lot sooner?
09:35Answer me that, Ash.
09:37I would have done it a lot sooner.
09:39Sorry?
09:41I would have done it a lot sooner.
09:43So he doesn't even support you either.
09:45Do you want him to be the father?
09:47I am supporting him.
09:49How can you support somebody who's a complete
09:51and utter waste of space?
09:53You've just said you wouldn't treat a child like that.
09:55He should have done something about this sooner.
09:57Yes or no?
09:59Yeah, but she's only just got in contact with him, hasn't she?
10:01He's laughing at the whole thing.
10:03Look at his imaginative little face.
10:05I haven't spoken to her at all.
10:07You should have made it your responsibility.
10:09Shouldn't you?
10:11What if I didn't know it was mine?
10:13If I thought there was a 1% chance
10:15that the child was mine,
10:17I would have got an answer when the child was born.
10:19Don't you think your friend should have done that?
10:21Oh, yeah, they should have both done something, shouldn't they?
10:23Answer that.
10:25Yes, we should have done something.
10:27Why wait so long to bring me on here?
10:29You look in the mirror, what do you see?
10:31I'll tell you what, I see a waste of space
10:33who doesn't know how to live his life properly.
10:35DNA result next, I'm right back.
10:37I wanted to tell you, Alan, but I didn't.
10:39You didn't?
10:41Yeah, I wanted to.
10:43You left me alone.
10:45Talk a minute.
10:47I wanted to, but I knew for a fact
10:49that you would be like, oh, yeah, blah, blah, blah.
10:51The DNA test results show that Alan
10:53doesn't know how to live his life properly.
10:55APPLAUSE
10:59Welcome back, Alan, Curtis, Angelina and Ash,
11:01we're on the show.
11:03You have a baby, a daughter, how old is she?
11:05She's one years old.
11:07He came out and said, I was only three days ago,
11:09I found out about it, a daughter, potentially.
11:11You say we were together not a month,
11:13we were together six months.
11:15We were having sex, I told him I was pregnant,
11:17we were not together, I've been through the whole thing.
11:19You acknowledge that you should have done something
11:21a lot sooner, but actually, today is the truth.
11:23That's what I got on with my life, yeah?
11:25No, not like that.
11:27I wanted to tell you, Alan, but I didn't.
11:29You didn't?
11:31Yeah, I wanted to.
11:33You left me alone.
11:35Talk a minute, I wanted to, but I knew for a fact
11:37that you would be like, oh, yeah, blah, blah, blah,
11:39stuff like that.
11:41You would slag me down to the ground
11:43as what you have been doing, because I've heard.
11:45I've heard you say all types of...
11:47Ashley, I don't even know why you're here, mate,
11:49because you don't even know me.
11:51I know Curtis.
11:53I think he's the one person on this stage,
11:55apart from what he did when he came out,
11:57who is absolutely... I don't even have to look at him.
11:59Look at him.
12:01He's there defending his sister and his niece,
12:03and that's what's important.
12:05And I don't think you're bad, because I think underneath,
12:07you're sitting there now thinking, yeah,
12:09I think I would have behaved differently.
12:11Curtis, what do you think of this whole...
12:13It's just ridiculous.
12:15It's ridiculous, to be honest with you.
12:17I told you, didn't I?
12:19You should have done something before.
12:21There's no point in me telling you anything,
12:23because it's been 10 years,
12:25so I don't know how you can turn around
12:27and call me all the names under the sun.
12:29It's all right for you to push him into his pushchair
12:31when he's got a newborn in there.
12:33Yeah, I admit, right?
12:35And I went for him.
12:37Yeah, he had his pushchair in his hand.
12:39You pushed me into my pushchair.
12:41Yeah, but I'm sick of you having to go at her
12:43every single time she walks in town.
12:45I haven't spoke to her.
12:47No, of course not.
12:49I don't speak to her.
12:51She's left me alone.
12:53People would look at this and they would go,
12:55is Curtis a bully?
12:57No, he's all right underneath,
12:59just needs to slap round his head occasionally.
13:01You're a mental bully, mate.
13:03You are.
13:05You're a cocky, cocky mental bully.
13:07You know exactly...
13:09You don't care, do you?
13:11I'm just here to do DNA.
13:13You don't care, do you?
13:15About what?
13:17I hope the kid's yours and your current girlfriend
13:19sees you for what you are and dumps you, mate.
13:21That's what I care about.
13:23What are you going to do?
13:25How are you going to provide for this child if it's yours?
13:27Same as I do with my first one.
13:29How do you do that?
13:31Well, the state pays, yeah?
13:33You pay your benefits towards your kid, yeah?
13:35Well, yeah, I pay everything.
13:37I get everything for him.
13:39I'm there for him 24-7.
13:41What's your daughter's name?
13:43Olivia May.
13:45Is she a good girl?
13:47Yeah, she's absolutely brilliant, Jeremy.
13:49Honestly, she is an angel.
13:51I will say this, if this child's yours,
13:53I could have done more,
13:55and yeah, it did hurt when I found out her actual name.
13:59So what would this mean?
14:01Well, if it's mine, then...
14:03It!
14:05Sorry, if she's mine, then yeah...
14:07The DNA test does not show that, Alan.
14:11I think you'll all be very happy
14:13he's not the child's biological father.
14:15APPLAUSE
14:17So, um...
14:20You can go and you can bring up your daughter,
14:22you can go and try and find a job,
14:24and you can draw a line in the sand.
14:26Nothing against you, Ash.
14:28It's certainly a mate.
14:30But I like the fact that you were honest enough
14:32to say that you would have done something a lot sooner.
14:34See ya.
14:36CHEERING
14:38One big joke, isn't it?
14:40Do you know who the father is?
14:42Yes, I do.
14:44Totally get you.
14:46No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
14:48Not out there, not here, not anywhere.
14:50I like the fact you're defending her on her,
14:52but you do that, you cross the line,
14:54and she either gets into trouble,
14:56then you're not there for your niece, OK?
14:58She's a brilliant little girl, Jeremy, honestly.
15:00She is such an angel.
15:02You can frame that.
15:04I will.
15:06Do you know what I mean?
15:08I love her to bits.
15:10She's my world, she's my everything.
15:12If her dad doesn't want to be involved,
15:14then yes, obviously, I don't like that.
15:16I will.
15:18How old are you?
15:2021.
15:22Good lad.
15:24Listen, look after your sister in the right way, promise?
15:26Promise.
15:28Nice to meet you.
15:30Give him a round of applause for going that way.
15:32Nice to see you, see you later.
15:34CHEERING
15:36We'll let you know, my next guest today,
15:38Tony, is here to confirm the people he believes
15:40have stolen from his pregnant girlfriend.
15:42Tony claims the couple Barry and Mary
15:44have stolen his girlfriend's bank card
15:46so he can give his girlfriend, Heather, her money back.
15:48Please welcome Tony to The Jeremy Carr Show, that way.
15:50CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
15:58That's a hungry house.
16:00It's an online takeaway place where you can order food.
16:02This is interesting.
16:04What's your girlfriend called?
16:06Heather.
16:08Heather?
16:10Yeah, Heather.
16:12She's pregnant?
16:14Yeah.
16:16So, Barry and Mary.
16:18I'm a bit confused with Barry.
16:20There's Barry and Emma and Mary
16:22and there's all sorts of people, right?
16:24But basically, you believe that these two,
16:26I don't know how they're involved in your lives
16:28because you say they're not my friends.
16:30In fact, you say I'm sort of embarrassed
16:32to even know them.
16:34Tell us what went missing from your pregnant girlfriend,
16:36first up.
16:38Well, we insured a new bank card
16:40because the bank was not satisfied
16:42with the address being safe.
16:44They asked for a secondary address
16:46so I could bring it over to you.
16:48They're so unhygienic,
16:50it makes me want to vomit all over their sofa.
16:52Yeah, it's true.
16:54It's horrible, I tell you.
16:56Shut up!
16:58Hey, listen!
17:00I come to your address to drop off a car
17:02and I have to scrub my feet in muddy puddles
17:04when I come at you filthy tramps.
17:06How about you admit
17:08nicking our bank card, you little...
17:10Barry, shut up!
17:12Look here!
17:13She's 30 weeks pregnant, the girl on the left,
17:15but she...
17:17Really? Where's the evidence?
17:19The midwife came to the house
17:21to check the heartbeat
17:23and no one could pick up her own heartbeat.
17:25Right, can we get back to this at all?
17:27She's been at the house
17:29when the midwife's been there.
17:31Shut up!
17:33Shut up!
17:35Shut up!
17:37Your brother's stupidly irate.
17:39Shut up!
17:41They had his bank card
17:43and spent their entire...
17:45They're not even there now.
17:47Why did I do that for?
17:49Spent their entire time spending on the card.
17:51Yeah.
17:53Why didn't you cancel it then?
17:55We did cancel it when we realised what was going on.
17:57How much did they defraud you?
17:59Do you reckon it's them? How much?
18:01There's at least 1,800 that we can see
18:03that they've defrauded.
18:051,800 quid?
18:07And we've got bank statements on us to prove...
18:09Go bowling.
18:11Bowling?
18:13Listen, you guys.
18:15Don't start me on...
18:17Paid £112 off a pregnant girl's bank card
18:19who has a hole in the heart of her baby
18:21and a missing valve on the baby,
18:23seriously ill, could lose her baby when she gives birth
18:25and these...
18:27stealing her money, paying their Sky bill,
18:29the Vodafone bill...
18:31Sky?
18:33How did they get Sky?
18:35We've got proof on the bank statements.
18:37They have definitely 100% stolen Heather's car.
18:39I've done my own investigation work
18:41and I've found out that they...
18:43Basically, I've been phoning around
18:45and I've been trying to find out
18:47who and what,
18:49but the food companies will not give us the information.
18:51So Barry's not your mate, then?
18:53I can't stand him. They're filthy.
18:55He's disgusting, pig-faced, vile.
18:57You reckon he stole the car?
18:59He's come here to do a lie detector test.
19:01Oh, blimey, now I've got that.
19:03I've got that.
19:05Barry's on the Jeremy Carl show, that way.
19:11That doesn't help you, does it?
19:13It doesn't help you.
19:15Pregnant girl with a hole in the heart of the baby,
19:17do you know what I mean?
19:19Why steal the bank card?
19:21I didn't steal it, I sent it back.
19:23How do you send a bank card back to the bank, then?
19:25Go on, tell us.
19:27It's called not knowing this address,
19:29get back to the police.
19:31No, it's not.
19:33You go and return to sender.
19:35Correct, everyone?
19:37Yeah.
19:39Return to sender.
19:41Yeah, that's what I've done.
19:43I sent it back.
19:45Do the lie detector, prove yourself you're innocent.
19:47I don't need to.
19:49Guilty!
19:51So let's have that question, then, you.
19:53You're supposed to be so innocent and so upstanding,
19:55why do you refuse to do my lie detector?
19:57I've got three witnesses saying...
19:59Guilty!
20:01I've got three witnesses...
20:03What do you mean you've got three witnesses
20:05pointing at the wall?
20:07What are you talking about?
20:09You're about as thick as that wall, anyway.
20:11Barry, if it wasn't you,
20:13who are you?
20:15I'm their friend.
20:17Are you pregnant? What?
20:19No, he's not me, he's pregnant, that's Heather.
20:21Oh, Jesus, everybody's pregnant.
20:23Thanks very much, just relax, anyway.
20:25You go back and relax.
20:27Did you steal it?
20:29No.
20:31Why don't you do a lie detector, then?
20:33Because I've got three people to prove that.
20:35I'm not bothered about that,
20:37why wouldn't you prove that you weren't
20:39anything to do with it?
20:41I'm sorry, Jeremy, liars don't sit there agitated,
20:43do they?
20:45Are you pregnant?
20:47No, I am.
20:49You're more fat than a...pregnant.
20:51How far...
20:53How far gone are you?
20:55For like six months.
20:57Why did you refuse to do a pregnancy test?
20:59Because you lied.
21:01I lied?
21:03Have you had a scam?
21:05Can I do this?
21:07Hello, can I do this?
21:09Did you have a scam?
21:11No, I haven't.
21:13Who's Emma?
21:15That's Emma there.
21:17Right, Emma there, get here,
21:19give her a round of applause,
21:21Emma's here.
21:23This is you,
21:25that was making the bank card.
21:27Who are you, by the way?
21:29I'm Emma, I'm a friend of Tony's.
21:31Didn't you used to live with him?
21:33Unfortunately.
21:35Do a lie detector,
21:37do a lie detector.
21:39I've started itching since you said that.
21:41No, listen,
21:43he's at the house of the payments
21:45for £100 and £12,
21:47and for a fact,
21:49he takes his son to go bowling,
21:51we don't order from...
21:53How do you know they stole this?
21:55Because, for one,
21:57we don't order from Dominos,
21:59none of us have a Vodafone SIM card,
22:01and how comes,
22:03if it wasn't them,
22:05why have I got picture evidence
22:07of them spending £100?
22:09But it could be anybody that had stolen that card
22:11and done those things.
22:13No, Mark, I don't believe you,
22:15I don't believe your girlfriend's pregnant,
22:17I don't believe a word that's come out of your mouth so far.
22:19Why would you not do a lie detector
22:21and nail this absolutely and utterly?
22:23Come on, Barry.
22:25No, Barry, do it.
22:27Barry, listen to me,
22:29if you're innocent,
22:31I will say sorry in front of everyone.
22:33Do a lie detector, go on.
22:35If you're innocent, you will.
22:37Coming next is Barry's girlfriend, Mary.
22:39Mary's allegedly 30 weeks pregnant,
22:41but is the only woman I've ever met
22:43who has a Vodafone SIM card,
22:45but he won't do a lie detector.
22:47Then we've got his pregnant girlfriend,
22:49and down with the flat feet,
22:51back in a minute,
22:53don't go anywhere.
22:55I wouldn't touch him
22:57with a ten-foot-five ball
22:59in the communication scene.
23:08Thank you very much indeed,
23:10welcome back, before the break,
23:11we were talking about the fact
23:13that he somehow managed to intercept Steele
23:15and then use her card
23:17and that you brought him here today
23:19so that he would do a lie detector
23:21along with his partner, Mary,
23:23to prove he didn't do it.
23:25You denied the chance to do that,
23:27why would you not do the lie detector?
23:29Because I want people knowing
23:31the fact that I used my card
23:33to do the things I needed to do.
23:35So what about the 220 pound
23:37that you went to McDonald's with
23:39then the next day phoned up the bank
23:41and said,
23:43you know,
23:45you wouldn't lie to me?
23:47So I just went to McDonald's
23:49and then I got a call,
23:51and I said,
23:53you know,
23:55I'm not going to lie,
23:57I'm not going to lie,
23:59I'm going to do a lie detector
24:01with the 220 pound
24:03and I'm going to use the card
24:05to prove that I did it.
24:07And I did.
24:09And that's what I did,
24:11Oi! No more of that.
24:12It's not useful, is it?
24:13I know that if you're pregnant... Hello?
24:15I know that if you're pregnant, crocs are very comfortable,
24:18but can I point something out?
24:20Swearing up to a woman is not good,
24:22and you, that's no good to you either.
24:24It doesn't look great, though, when you two refused,
24:27refused to do a lie detector. Why?
24:29Mary, as far as I knew, Mary wasn't even offered to do one.
24:32I wasn't asked to do one.
24:33Oh, no, you can't do one because you're pregnant.
24:35That's right, isn't it? Yeah.
24:36What, a fat bum, more like?
24:38You noticed yourself recently.
24:40How... How can he look so innocent?
24:42If I look at myself, where's the fat, mate?
24:45Why are you up here to prove he's innocent?
24:48Cos he's looking after my dog that ain't got fleas
24:50and that ain't attacked like...
24:51I've had to be treated since you've gone.
24:54Roxy and Coco, before I left...
24:56Sorry, can we... on your stairs, eh?
24:59What, are you cowering now you've gone?
25:02Cowering now I've gone? Who shouts at him?
25:04You did.
25:06What you've got to understand from my point of view is, hear me out,
25:09he came here to prove that he hadn't stolen,
25:12nobody else interrupt me, this bank card, right?
25:14And he says, I absolutely refuse to do a lie detector.
25:18Now, I've got to be very honest and very straight with you, right?
25:20People who've watched this show for 11 years will know
25:22that if you're pregnant,
25:24that's one of the reasons why you can't do a lie detector.
25:27All I'm saying to you is, you might well be pregnant
25:29and I wouldn't disrespect you.
25:31He says you're not and that's your usual sight.
25:33It's not my problem. In the break, do a test and prove it.
25:36What do you mean, in the break?
25:38Because I'm not proving it to people like you.
25:40You're proving it to Jeremy.
25:42To Jeremy in the whole world, because you're not a liar.
25:44Go on, prove you're not a liar.
25:46And then maybe we might start believing your mouth
25:48and what comes out of it.
25:49Your girlfriend's called Heather, it was her card.
25:52Is she pregnant?
25:53Yeah, she is, 32 weeks.
25:54She's 32 weeks.
25:56Can I prove?
25:57Heather's on the show, everybody's got a pregnant.
25:59CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
26:06Sit down, it's no good for your baby.
26:08Now, sit down, babes.
26:09How can you do that to a pregnant woman, yeah?
26:12The baby was in heart condition with a missing valve
26:16and a hole in her heart.
26:17I've got the proof here.
26:19Yeah, that's just on paper.
26:20The date.
26:21Go bowling, Vodafone, Domino's, everything.
26:25Proof right there.
26:26Go bowling, 6320.
26:28Yeah.
26:29Go to work.
26:30LAUGHTER
26:32And the fraud has been refunded by the bank.
26:35The money's come back, yeah?
26:37And they've proven that.
26:38Why would you not admit to this, guys?
26:40They've done that when there's been no card delivered to the house.
26:43He turned around and said it all got sent to your address!
26:47He said it!
26:48He's admitted to apparently sending it back!
26:50Now you're backing up the lies!
26:52Stop believing your...
26:55..lies and start admitting it!
26:57He said it came to the house, he said it.
26:59You're a liar!
27:01You're a liar!
27:04I mean, the bank said it was...
27:06Well, they're not doing lie detector.
27:07We can't have a debate about whether she's pregnant or not.
27:10I'm not.
27:11Missed 11 periods, I don't really care.
27:12Come on, yeah?
27:13If you're really pregnant, I'm pregnant, yeah?
27:16I'll do a pregnancy test, here and now, and I'll prove it.
27:19Why don't you?
27:20CHEERING
27:22Here's the thing. Listen, I want you to stay calm.
27:25The money's been refunded, right? Yeah.
27:27OK, because it was fraud.
27:28But I'd have cut a line of green, but...
27:30You need to do me a favour, you need to draw a line,
27:32you don't need to make threats, because people like that aren't worth it.
27:34I think you look as guilty as sin.
27:36You three need to stop the threats,
27:38and I think everybody watching would agree with you three and me.
27:41Jeremy, it was more anger than anything.
27:42I get you two liars out of my building. Get out of here and behave yourself.
27:45Don't make threats, don't.
27:47APPLAUSE
27:49We want the rest of our stuff back!
27:52We want everything back!
27:55Go and check out!
27:56We don't have our stuff!
27:57Go and check our stuff back by the end of today!
28:00We could find...
28:01OK, but if me and you haven't got all of our belongings back by the end of today...
28:04We have a sky dish and the pizza boxes. Now, do one. Goodbye.
28:07Thank you very much, Steve.
28:09APPLAUSE
28:14Good afternoon. You might remember my next guest from a previous encounter.
28:17Take a look at this, my friends.
28:20So the truth is, she's back with him.
28:22You think it's because her hormones are everywhere.
28:24It's because she's pregnant.
28:25You've said, I'm getting him back here today,
28:27because I'm a mother and I love her.
28:29He's going to take a lie detector test, and when he fails it,
28:31because you're convinced he's a cheat, I am taking her home with me.
28:34I am. Her and my grandchildren mean the world to me.
28:37And if he comes out here with my ma in my face,
28:39I'm going to throw the chair at him.
28:41He better do a lie detector and prove nothing else is wrong.
28:44Done, yeah? Guess what?
28:46He refused.
28:47Yeah, I did refuse.
28:48You are still cheating on my daughter, aren't you?
28:50No, I'm not cheating.
28:52Why wouldn't you do that?
28:53Because there's no point to me doing a lie detector test.
28:55Because you're a cheat, aren't you?
28:57Yeah, you are. You failed last time.
28:59Are you going to come back here and do a lie detector test
29:02to prove, once and for all, nothing else?
29:04No, I promise that.
29:05You promise that?
29:06I swear to God, I will come back and do a lie detector test
29:09and I'll prove you all.
29:12Well, he's back, right?
29:13And there's the bloke who said, oh, I promise, I promise, I promise.
29:15But yesterday, he tried to do a runner.
29:17Today, he's been a pain in the backside.
29:19Apparently now, he doesn't want to come on stage.
29:22What is this? Where is he?
29:23Thanks, Graham. What are you doing around here?
29:25There's Thomas coming round.
29:26I was trying to do a runner yesterday.
29:28Well, the basic fact is me and Aaron had an argument.
29:31What's your problem?
29:32What do you mean, what's my problem?
29:33My problem is...
29:34Have you done the lie detector?
29:35Yeah, I've done it, yeah.
29:36But you did a runner yesterday.
29:38But you're here today.
29:38Yeah, I mean...
29:39You've done it. You're going to pass it.
29:40But you were trying to get out of it, weren't you? Come on.
29:42Yeah, but I had an argument with my partner.
29:45I made a cry...
29:46So you're going to pass it, you had an argument,
29:47that was the reason you were all over the place.
29:49I can think you were trying to get out of it
29:51because you don't have a problem.
29:52But you're saying, you've done it, we've got the result,
29:54you're going to pass it, Jeremy Carl, I'll prove it to you,
29:56but out of my life, my relationship will work.
29:58Right, get on that stage, stop messing me around.
30:00Give him a round of applause. That way, go.
30:01Which way? That way, yeah.
30:03CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
30:08Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
30:10You might have failed one... Sit there.
30:12So, you did one before and you failed it
30:15and you dissed the machine and then you said it was right
30:18and then you came again and then you said you wouldn't do it again.
30:21And then you said you wouldn't, then you wouldn't,
30:23and then you went away and you said you would.
30:25And it took a lot of work, but you've done it and you're going to pass.
30:27How long have you been with Nicky, by the way?
30:30Nearly nine months.
30:32She completely trusts you. Yeah, I know she does.
30:34You said, this is being made up by her mother,
30:36who's a pain in the backside.
30:38I made a mistake, we got it right,
30:40she's having a baby, I love this woman,
30:43today I'll prove it.
30:44Do you know what I'm also going to do, you said?
30:46I'm going to put her, the mother-in-law from hell, in her place.
30:50Theresa's back on the Jeremy Carr Show, that's right.
30:53CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
30:57What are you going to do to me?
30:59What are you going to do, put me in my place?
31:01You're a dirty...
31:02Well, I'm going to prove you wrong.
31:04You're cheating on my daughter, she's in tears back there.
31:06And you didn't have an argument yesterday, did you?
31:09I walked out. Yeah, you walked out cos you didn't want to come on here
31:12and it was me that had to get you to come on here.
31:14I'm mad cos... So you're going to put me in my place, are you?
31:16I'm just going to prove you and prove you wrong.
31:18What can I say to you? Welcome back, Theresa.
31:21So, you're all right, love.
31:22So, last time, when you failed, this is because somebody...
31:27I don't know how to say this.
31:28The other one was in the toilet where he was working.
31:31In a fried chicken shop. Which I was wrong about, ladies and gentlemen.
31:34CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
31:38I've always wanted a bargain bucket.
31:40Anyway, listen, you think he's going to fail this, you think he...
31:43I do. He was messing around yesterday, he was causing annoyance, wasn't he?
31:46Yeah, he was causing annoyance yesterday.
31:48It's up for me to phone him up and say,
31:50I will be nice to him to get him to come on the show.
31:52But let's just turn it round, right?
31:53If the last time in the fried chicken shop bog was a one-off
31:57and your daughter, who's pregnant by him, forgives him
32:00and he passes this today, then you've got a butt out, right?
32:04I will apologise to him. I told him that last week.
32:07Well, at the end of the day, this is about my daughter and my grandchildren.
32:09Yeah, but you see, she didn't even want him to do one.
32:11I had to convince him and it's you.
32:13I just hope, if he is telling the truth,
32:16it's going to be horrible, Therese.
32:17You're going to have to stay out of this because she's made her bed.
32:19Yeah, but she's... You're going to have to lie in it, right?
32:21My daughter, when she's phoning me, crying down the phone...
32:24Yeah, I get that. ..and saying that he's controlling her,
32:26she can't go shopping or nothing, and he's watching what she's doing,
32:28you know when I ring her on the phone...
32:30But you hope he does fail today? I hope he does fail.
32:33So let's get her back. How far gone is she, pregnancy-wise?
32:35Five months. Right, your daughter's back.
32:38Nick is back on the Jeremy Tower show.
32:40CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
32:42CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
32:44I wasn't arguing yesterday.
32:47Why did you really have your kick-off yesterday?
32:49So what was that? Why did you have your kick-off yesterday?
32:52Because my two-year-old goes to preschool,
32:54you know, the funded thing that they have,
32:57and I had to ask him to wait in for the electrician to fix the fan
33:00because if there's nobody there,
33:02they can't do the work that needs to be done.
33:04He had a kick-off because I said,
33:05I'm going to run down in the car with JJ, take him to school,
33:08I'll be straight back, I'll be gone all of two minutes.
33:10He had the biggest flip at me because he couldn't come with me.
33:13The day before, because my son starts full-time nursery in September,
33:17they do four weeks where, on a Tuesday,
33:19I have to stay with him for half an hour
33:20to get him used to the nursery teachers.
33:23He didn't believe that I was stood in the nursery...
33:25What, you think she was out doing something to somebody else, do you?
33:28No, I'm not saying that.
33:29Just cos you cheated on her, don't mean to say she's f****d on you.
33:32She's got four gigs!
33:33I'm not saying that. I came on your show in March
33:35and I proved that I'm not a liar. Shush, shush, shush, shush.
33:37I came on your show in March,
33:38proved that I was fateful and I'm not a liar.
33:40Can I just ask you a question?
33:42Because he came last time and he failed.
33:45You didn't seem that keen on him doing a test last week. Why?
33:49It's not that I wasn't keen. I said to him, that is your choice.
33:52I never asked you to do one.
33:54What if he passes?
33:55Will you tell your mother to butt out of your relationship?
33:57I've already told my mum. When he passes, she needs to apologise.
34:00What if he fails?
34:01I haven't thought that far ahead.
34:03Do you think he's going to pass?
34:04I think he's going to fail.
34:05You think he's going to fail? You're going to pass, aren't you?
34:07Yeah, I'm going to pass.
34:08What do you think, Nick?
34:10Up until his kick-off yesterday, as I said to your team,
34:13I was 100% certain he was going to pass.
34:15Are you going to pass?
34:17Yes.
34:17Is he going to pass?
34:18I don't think he will.
34:19Is he? Who are you?
34:22That's Nicky, stop that.
34:22Oh, hello, you're back again.
34:24I'm back again. Do me a favour.
34:26You pass, I'll come down here and I'll shake your hand.
34:28I'm going to pass, mate.
34:28Right?
34:29I swear to God, I'm going to pass.
34:30Do me a favour. Stop controlling her.
34:32That's it.
34:32Right.
34:33Lie detector, thank you. Sorry.
34:34Can I just say something, please?
34:37Before you read that, he did turn around and say...
34:39One at a time, shut up, shut up, shut up.
34:42Theresa Green speaking.
34:43He turned around and said to Nicky,
34:45if that comes back as failed, it's a load...
34:48Which obviously made me question,
34:50why would say that if he's telling the truth?
34:52And I said that to you this morning...
34:53Since you restarted your relationship with Nicky in May,
34:56have you passionately kissed anyone else?
34:57You said no, why did you say no?
34:59I'm telling the truth.
35:00He says you're a liar.
35:00I'm not a liar!
35:02I'm not a liar!
35:04I swear to God!
35:06Since you restarted your relationship with Nicky in May,
35:12have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
35:14You said no.
35:15This said he was lying on that question.
35:16I wasn't lying!
35:18I wasn't lying!
35:19What about intercourse?
35:20He failed on every single question.
35:21You don't tell a...
35:23...fail.
35:24Oi, oi.
35:24I want to know...
35:25Not him.
35:27If you go...
35:28...lying, it will make you out to lie.
35:30I'm going to a break.
35:31Back in a minute.
35:32This is worse than the first time.
35:35He went all the way with somebody.
35:37Well, you're a dirty liar.
35:38I'm not a liar!
35:39You spent yesterday trying to get out of it,
35:41and you've done it again!
35:42Only this time, she's pregnant.
35:52Right, we're out the back.
35:52Nick, come here.
35:53Come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here.
35:55Now listen, bear in mind one thing, right?
35:56If you go into that test lying, it will make you out.
35:58She was absolutely right.
36:00I know the worst thing in the world, right?
36:02This is worse than the first time.
36:04He went all the way with somebody.
36:08I came up here on my son's birthday
36:10under the understanding that he was going to pass.
36:12And where is he?
36:13Where is he hiding?
36:13He was trying to run away yesterday.
36:15Let's go and find him.
36:16Where's he hiding?
36:16Do me a favour.
36:17Mum, stop eating it.
36:17If you do that, then he's got something to have a go.
36:20Be strong for your daughter, but stop launching yourself.
36:23Let's have this conversation.
36:24I don't know, but if he was actually...
36:26If he was trying to say that's not true...
36:28And I mean this as well.
36:29You don't need to give him...
36:30Let me tell you what this bloke's waiting for.
36:32He's waiting for one of you to lamp him
36:33so he can jump up and down.
36:35You're better than this.
36:36How many times do you have to be back, for God's sake?
36:39Have you not learned by now?
36:41Where is he?
36:43Where is he?
36:45Really?
36:46Liar.
36:47Twice.
36:47I don't understand.
36:48I'll explain it to you in words of one syllable.
36:50You're a dirty liar.
36:51I'm not a liar.
36:52You spent yesterday trying to get out of it
36:54and you've done it again.
36:55Only this time she's pregnant.
36:56I don't even know I was thinking
36:58because I've not done anything wrong.
36:59I want the truth.
37:01I want the truth.
37:02No, don't stop shouting out there
37:04because that's not going to happen anymore.
37:06I'm being serious.
37:07I'm being serious with you.
37:08Go on.
37:09One chance and one chance only
37:11to tell me the truth for the sake of me and our baby.
37:14Let her do it. It's real.
37:15One chance.
37:16I've been doing this seriously.
37:17We're glad.
37:18What was you saying to me this morning and last night?
37:20If he's coming back, I'm lying.
37:22It's a bag of...
37:23I'm going to question it.
37:24How can I fail, Debra?
37:25Because I've not been doing well.
37:26I've been with you...
37:27What about?
37:28What about we can set you back from the chicken farm?
37:29I need to keep the...
37:30You were at work till 11.20 at night.
37:32I don't want to go through with it.
37:33Jeremy, I don't want to go through with it.
37:35No, I need to get this sorted.
37:37The last thing I need is you arguing.
37:39Honestly, I just don't understand it, me,
37:42because I've...
37:43Mate, listen to me.
37:43I've done this...
37:45Shut them out, all of them.
37:46Tell them to be quiet.
37:46I've been with her 24-7
37:48and plus I work at the chicken farm with a bunch of men.
37:51What about that night?
37:53Nikki, Nikki, stop.
37:54You come in at half past 11 at night.
37:56Nikki, Nikki, it doesn't matter.
37:58We know you're a cheat.
38:00It's written all over your face.
38:01You've done it twice.
38:02So I'm just going to do this really simply.
38:04Please give me the truth.
38:05Have the decency of telling her the truth
38:07because you are disgusting.
38:10You can think of this.
38:11What do you mean he can fix it?
38:13You're not...
38:13Are you staying with him?
38:17Are you staying with him?
38:19Sorry, hold on a minute.
38:19Did you...
38:20I want the truth.
38:21You're going to stay with him?
38:22Hold on a minute.
38:22Not if I don't get the truth.
38:24Not if I don't get the truth.
38:25Honestly, Nikki, I swear down to...
38:27I swear I've not done anything wrong.
38:28How long did it take me to get the truth off you
38:30last time when you were calling this test?
38:31I'm being deadly serious with you.
38:34It's not true.
38:35This is your chance to prove
38:38you can finally be honest with me.
38:39I'm being deadly serious with you.
38:41I can have a cheat with you,
38:42cheat on you when I've been...
38:43It took you nearly two weeks
38:45to tell me the truth last time.
38:46You're going to fix this.
38:48She's a liar.
38:48How many more?
38:49I'm not doing any more tests.
38:49That was only because I guessed.
38:51Nikki, listen to me.
38:52I know you're not.
38:53That was only because I guessed
38:55what happened when you answered my question.
38:56Do I have to guess again before you find out?
38:58I want to speak.
39:00No, honestly.
39:00Tell me the truth.
39:02Glenn, I've come back and you're lying.
39:04You're telling the truth.
39:05You're lying, mate.
39:06I'm with her 24-7.
39:07Well, you're obviously not, are you?
39:08The time when my youngest lad took juice on you
39:11and you stormed off out the house
39:12and didn't come back till the next day.
39:13Yeah, and I went...
39:14And you know that, where I am.
39:15You know where she's going, don't you?
39:17You know where she's going, don't you?
39:19With me.
39:20I'm not.
39:20That's where she's going.
39:21I'm telling the truth.
39:22You don't know where she's going.
39:24I'm telling the truth.
39:25Glenn.
39:25Don't treat me more than a mugger.
39:27I'm not treating you more than a mugger.
39:29I'm not.
39:30I'll even give you the number to prove it.
39:32You're a liar, mate.
39:33I'll give you a number to prove where I was
39:37and if I've only been out for...
39:38All right, then.
39:39All right, then.
39:40Why did this come back your line, then?
39:41Did you sabotage the test?
39:42Because Jeremy knows he's had people on
39:44that sabotaged his test before.
39:45I'm bored of you.
39:46Can I say something to you, right?
39:47And I'm not sure...
39:48I'm going to finish this for a reason.
39:49You're pregnant.
39:50You've got kids.
39:52The hardest thing in the world
39:53is when you discover that somebody that you loved
39:55has cheated on you.
39:56Then you give them a second chance
39:57and they do it again
39:58and you feel, I guess, an idiot.
39:59You shouldn't.
40:00Yes, your mother, out of loyalty,
40:02is a little bit over the top,
40:03but I sort of get that.
40:05I cannot believe, Nick,
40:06and I'm going to be honest,
40:08that I've just stood here and heard you go,
40:10we can sort this out.
40:11If this is, and please don't take this the wrong way,
40:13if you want to spend your life
40:15looking over your shoulder with a toe rag
40:16who doesn't even know how to treat a woman,
40:18then jog on in your own mother's words.
40:20But you are better than this.
40:21You are.
40:21And this guy, he's not going to give you the truth, is he?
40:23He's not going to give you the baby.
40:24He's never going to give you the truth.
40:25Let him do his thing, man.
40:27You go in with the babies and get rid of him.
40:29Tell me you're not doing this.
40:30Tell me you're not doing this anymore.
40:32How about we do this off camera then
40:33with the aftercare team?
40:34Will you tell the truth?
40:35Why?
40:35Nicky, because I deserve the truth.
40:38That's why.
40:38I deserve him to tell me to my face
40:40what he's done and why he's done it.
40:42Nicky, you've got it in black and white.
40:43Yeah, I have.
40:44But I want to hear it from him.
40:45He's a bloody cheat, man.
40:47I want to hear it from him.
40:48Tell her the truth.
40:50I'm being serious.
40:51Tell her.
40:51No, you've lied, Clay.
40:54I can see it in your face.
40:56Everybody else can't.
40:56Do you know what?
40:57I'm not passing you money.
40:59Eric, stop talking.
41:00Stop talking.
41:01You say you detest wrong, yeah?
41:02No, it's a matter of fact.
41:05I've lived with it 24-7.
41:07And then these three days.
41:08Listen, that is 99% not right.
41:12So it's not wrong?
41:13I'm not doing anything wrong.
41:16Is this wrong?
41:17Well, obviously it's got to be
41:18because I'm not doing anything wrong.
41:20So, one minute, Jeremy.
41:21The one I did in March.
41:23With Jeremy's help, that I passed.
41:25Was mine wrong, then?
41:26Can I just ask you two?
41:27Because I'm going to finish in a minute.
41:28Can I just ask you two?
41:29Come here.
41:29What are you making of this?
41:30Was mine wrong?
41:31Dirty cheat.
41:32It's a dirty cheat and it needs to get out of her life.
41:34Was mine wrong?
41:35And if you just take it back down.
41:36I don't know.
41:36I'm not doing anything.
41:37We've got our honestly principles, haven't we?
41:38I'm not doing anything.
41:39Was mine wrong?
41:40I'm not doing this anymore.
41:41He's just right.
41:42So repeat what you just said.
41:43I'll tell you.
41:44He's a cheat.
41:45If you take that back with him,
41:47you stupid girl.
41:48But here's the thing.
41:48Everybody else is stupid.
41:54I can't just walk away.
41:55Yeah, but the thing is.
41:56We've got a baby on the way.
41:58We need to leave.
41:59There's no way to treat the woman that's having your baby.
42:01I know you understand that.
42:02We will put you.
42:03But maybe he doesn't want to tell me in front of the cameras.
42:05We will put you with aftercare.
42:07But let me ask you this.
42:09When he admits, nobody else speak.
42:10When he admits that's true.
42:12And when he admits that he did do something.
42:13I'll never trust him again.
42:14But will he stay with him?
42:16No.
42:16The more fool you darling.
42:18I need Graham urgently.
42:19Because you need to work out that you're better than being treated like this.
42:23Or let us continue.
42:25What a way to finish.
42:26See you very soon.
42:26Take care.
42:33On today's show.
42:41At that moment.
42:43When that acid hits your face.
42:46Intense pain.
42:48You can feel your face melting almost.
42:50Did you know what it was?
42:51Or is it just.
42:52I didn't know what it was.
42:53And you say it still causes you a bit of pain, doesn't it?
42:57Yeah.
42:58Because it does cause me pain.
43:00I have this sharp feeling sometimes.
43:03Because I have a huge blood problem.
43:06That's both awkward and embarrassing and difficult.
43:10Would that be fair?
43:11Yeah.
43:12It's taking over my life.
43:14And I really want my life back.