The Jeremy Kyle Show (03 Jan 2017)
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00:09On today's show...
00:11Last year has been a living nightmare.
00:13Yeah, it has.
00:15She is your neighbour, Dot.
00:17Yeah, she lives above Flattermouth.
00:21Go on!
00:22She thinks you killed the koi carp.
00:24It's not Kaleef's fish.
00:27You're kidding us, aren't you?
00:29You don't even live at her house.
00:31You've got nothing to do with this.
00:33You don't even know where you live.
00:35And you want to get your facts right, you wimp.
00:39She told her neighbours that every time my wife goes to bed for rest, I'm knocking at her door asking for sex.
00:45Let's find out if Walter Mitty offered it to Dot upstairs when he should have been looking after Dot downstairs.
00:52Lie detector results, please.
00:54We asked Walter, have you ever asked your neighbour Dot for sex?
00:58You said no, Walter, didn't you?
01:00I did.
01:01Why did you say no?
01:02Because I chose.
01:05Is it possible to fall in love with somebody straight away?
01:07I think it is. I have found my soulmate.
01:12You're stalking me.
01:13You mean everything to me. You're my world, you know.
01:15You're making me feel sick.
01:17I can't even look at you.
01:19It needs to stop. She doesn't want you back.
01:21So where are we at then?
01:24He's going that way, I'm going that way. See you later.
01:47Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:50My first guest today, Walter, says that he's here to finally confront Dot, whom he describes as the neighbour from hell.
01:56He says that Dot has been accusing him of sexually propositioning her and today he wants to clear his name for good.
02:02Walter says that he's been getting nothing but verbal from Dot and even accuses her of killing his fish.
02:09Today Walter says enough is enough. He will prove he didn't offer Dot sex and he wants her, right, out of the neighbourhood.
02:14He says she's no good.
02:16Walter's on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
02:20CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:28Look at you, Walter.
02:30Look at you, son.
02:32How old are you?
02:3471.
02:36Ladies and gentlemen, 71.
02:40You did offer her sex, didn't you?
02:42No.
02:44Have you seen her?
02:46Have you seen her?
02:48I know what happens, though, right, cos I've got arthritis to my toe cos I'm old.
02:52And you're 20 years older, the old wife has a sleep in the afternoon, you get on the old silky shirt, the old cowboy boots, get out of the car.
03:00Last year has been a living nightmare.
03:02Yeah, it has.
03:04She is your neighbour, Dot.
03:06Yeah, she lives about flat above.
03:08Right, she's about... She's also got the same name as your wife.
03:10She has.
03:12Which might make it easy if you wanted to cheat on her.
03:15Why has it been a nightmare?
03:17You say it all started when she stopped smoking.
03:19When she stopped smoking.
03:21Who?
03:23Dot upstairs.
03:25How did you know she upstairs had stopped smoking?
03:27Because she told us.
03:29I'll tell you what we'll do, we're going to call her Dot Upstairs and Dot Downstairs.
03:31Dot Upstairs, right.
03:33She stopped smoking.
03:35The doctor told her she'd got angina or something.
03:37She's moved in that flat.
03:39Who's that?
03:41She started complaining.
03:44Scumbag!
03:46Scumbag!
03:48Is that her on the right?
03:50Yeah.
03:52Is that Dot Upstairs?
03:54Upstairs Dot, ladies and gentlemen. Give Dot a big hand.
03:56APPLAUSE
04:00Can we lose the picture?
04:02Thanks, Matt.
04:04Right, so Dot Upstairs started leaning out the window and hurling abuse.
04:06She told people I grew and sold weed.
04:08Yes, she did.
04:10So shut up!
04:12Ooh!
04:14Shh!
04:16No!
04:18Yes!
04:20No!
04:22Yes!
04:24I have to get all sides, then I'll get yours, but I can't...
04:26You heard.
04:28Well, I don't care what you want.
04:30I don't care what you don't care.
04:32I want to get his story, then I'll get hers.
04:34Yes, but if it is, then you can come out and counter, can't you?
04:36I don't care, just sit down and let everybody have their say.
04:38That'd be brilliant.
04:41APPLAUSE
04:47Steve, sorry, very quickly.
04:49Steve, ladies and gentlemen, give him a round of applause.
04:51APPLAUSE
04:55New security guard today.
04:57Good lad, Lofty.
04:59Lofty. All right, so Lofty.
05:01And is he up for this? Yeah, yeah.
05:03Cos we've got 70-year-old angry people.
05:05You all right? Everything good, yeah?
05:07Yeah, you ever hurled abuse out of a window?
05:10Ever known a woman called Dot downstairs?
05:12Give him a round of applause, lovely man.
05:14APPLAUSE
05:16Right, anyway.
05:18How do we go from not smoking
05:20to hurling abuse to telling people
05:22that you grew and sold wheat and to telling people,
05:24this is what she said, that you've been watching her undress?
05:26You must have a bloody long neck!
05:28LAUGHTER
05:30Dot's upstairs.
05:32How would you...?
05:34She says I've been stood...
05:36I stand in garden,
05:38and it's like a big house,
05:40and her flat's on top,
05:42that I've been looking through a window
05:44and watching her get undressed.
05:46So she told people that you've been...
05:48GROANING
05:50Can we let him speak?
05:52Yes, he tells the truth.
05:54You told people... I'll get to you.
05:56Shut your ignorance, you won't let anybody speak.
05:58She told people I asked her for sex,
06:00not being funny, but I wouldn't touch her with a barge pole.
06:02You weren't born like a barge pole!
06:04I wouldn't touch her with a barge pole.
06:07CHEERING
06:09I had 15 koi carp,
06:11over three days,
06:13they all died.
06:15Who's that?
06:17LAUGHTER
06:19Who says that?
06:21LAUGHTER
06:23I don't know the L's on any more.
06:25Right, listen, who's in there?
06:27It's stepdaughter.
06:29What's she called? Caroline.
06:31We're calling her Dot.
06:33LAUGHTER
06:35She thinks you killed the koi carp.
06:37I did not kill his fish,
06:39and they weren't koi carp, they were goldfish.
06:41LAUGHTER
06:43I didn't say she killed them, I said they'd all died
06:45and I think she killed them.
06:47You had fish in that tank three times
06:49and every time them fish died.
06:51Can you go away, ex-husband?
06:53What?
06:55If I have to.
06:57And you, Dot.
06:59You'd better let him speak.
07:01Who's that?
07:04Anyway, you're here to say
07:06she's a nightmare, she's ruining my life,
07:08I want her out. Dot's on the Jeremy Carr Show,
07:10give her a round of applause.
07:12CHEERING
07:14APPLAUSE
07:16CHEERING
07:18You're welcome to the show.
07:20Walter constantly asks me for sex.
07:22He asked me for sex while she was in bed
07:24underneath my bedroom.
07:26AUDIENCE GASPS
07:28Do you fancy Walter?
07:30Dot.
07:33LAUGHTER
07:35APPLAUSE
07:41He's not good-looking, he's the Pits,
07:43he's not Brad Pitt, basically,
07:45I'd avoid him like the plague.
07:47Oh, yeah?
07:49You say he's a bit creepy, you say he's planted hidden cameras.
07:51He's got cameras in his garden.
07:53Oh, yeah, I've got a CCTV camera up.
07:55Yeah?
07:57One in me garden and one up front.
07:59What about the dog poo everywhere, what's that about?
08:01Shut up!
08:03Yes! Yes! No! Yes!
08:05The dog goes out...
08:07The two dogs, they both go out in that garden,
08:09do what they have to do...
08:11Shut up, I'm talking!
08:13AUDIENCE GASPS
08:15Whose garden is it?
08:17It's my garden. It's not his garden,
08:19it's a communal garden.
08:21It's a communal garden where I fence off and have permission to do it.
08:23So your dog's poo in your garden?
08:25In my garden, yeah.
08:27Then it gets cleaned up.
08:30Well, come on, tell two for once.
08:32The dog's poo in the garden...
08:34Out!
08:36And you leave it in your garden before you clean it up.
08:38And in summer, she can't have her windows on
08:40because they don't smell.
08:42You've got nothing to do with this.
08:44Now get out.
08:46You keep your nose out, you!
08:48You don't even live in a house!
08:50I'll go down and see my ex-wife.
08:52I don't give a damn!
08:54I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll go to a break,
08:56you can come out next, you go in there, you go in there,
08:59I've got dead fish, dog poo,
09:01and did Walter Mitty try on with Dot upstairs
09:03whilst Dot downstairs was having a kip.
09:05We're right back, don't go anywhere.
09:07I think there's a lot of sexual tension between you two.
09:09There is with her.
09:11Oh, yeah, cos I'm not frustrated
09:13that I fall for a tramp like you.
09:15Why is this happening?
09:17Because, when it is generally right,
09:19all the neighbours hate it in the street
09:21because all the...
09:23Look at you when I put the bin out
09:25when I went to my Nana's the other day.
09:27You might go down him, won't you?
09:33So, this just in, and it's breaking news
09:35this morning, apparently, Graham.
09:37Something big is happening in Media City.
09:39Yeah, let's find out what's happening from our weatherman.
09:41There's a storm brewing, Mr Kyle.
09:44Fuck you!
09:46Fuck you!
09:48Good morning, you're a big, big welcome to the show.
09:50Fuck you!
09:52Fuck you!
09:54Fuck you!
09:56Fuck you!
09:58Come on, Ben!
10:00Fuck you!
10:02Get out of my studio. Get him out.
10:04Fuck you!
10:06Fuck you!
10:08Come on, man!
10:10Come on!
10:13Fuck you!
10:15Fuck you!
10:17Fuck you!
10:19Fuck you!
10:21Fuck you!
10:23Fuck you!
10:25Fuck you!
10:27Fuck you!
10:29Fuck you!
10:31Fuck you!
10:33Fuck you!
10:35Fuck you!
10:37Fuck you!
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11:01to get in touch with one of my team.
11:11Anyway, my team, welcome back to the break.
11:13Walter and Dot, they live above each other.
11:15You're also married to a woman called Dot.
11:17She's not in the best of health.
11:19You're called Dot, you live upstairs.
11:21He used to go on really well.
11:23He used to come down and do jobs for you.
11:25One day he came and screwed something into your walls,
11:27fixed up a blind.
11:31And a drink.
11:33And you say after that, everything changed.
11:35You've been propositioning me for sex.
11:37He knew I was seeing somebody at the time.
11:40You've accused her of killing your koi carp.
11:42He said they're not koi carp.
11:44Why should I kill his fish?
11:46I can't cook him.
11:48I can't batter him.
11:50I thought that was very funny.
11:54I think there's a lot of sexual tension between you two.
11:56Oh, yeah.
11:58There is with her.
12:00Oh, yeah, cos I'm that frustrated
12:02that I'd fall for a tramp like you.
12:04Ooh!
12:06Yeah, well, I'm so stressed that you're not getting it.
12:09Walter, you did ask her.
12:11Are you jealous?
12:13No way.
12:15Cos you're not getting invited up for a bit.
12:17We've listened to the bed.
12:19No!
12:21Downstairs.
12:23We've heard her three times, we've heard her.
12:25Three times.
12:27Let's get Roger on the Jeremy Carr show,
12:29in in front of us.
12:31CHEERING
12:33CHEERING
12:35CHEERING
12:37You've got some blood in there.
12:39Did I say you could come out yet?
12:41Hey, how are you?
12:43When I'm ready.
12:45Get Dot a round of applause.
12:47APPLAUSE
12:49CHEERING
12:51Oh, I'm there.
12:53I'm there every day just about
12:55to see if she's all right.
12:57You're not always there.
12:59Roger, welcome to the show.
13:01What's your situation, what's your view on this story?
13:03I've got, hear me out, two people who lived above each other.
13:06He's married to a woman called Dot, she's called Dot,
13:08she's your ex. Apparently he says she's a liar,
13:10she's a fantasy, she's killed Mick Goldfish.
13:12No, she's not.
13:14He says his dogs poo everywhere and he keeps trying on with her
13:16and he's got webcams and he watches dodgy porn.
13:18Yeah?
13:20Yeah, as far as I know, I know he's got webcams up
13:22cos I've seen them.
13:24Could you put your stick down, is that all right?
13:26Thanks very much.
13:28We have sex with that.
13:30We split up because I hurt my back
13:32and I went into deep depression.
13:34And I got nasty with it.
13:36He normally uses a baseball bat,
13:38but when Shane Goldfish uses that...
13:40LAUGHTER
13:44The only thing that I can do is bloody look through windows.
13:48And then that needs a bloody ladder.
13:50Which window do I look through?
13:52Mind teaching, Winder, cos you stand in the car.
13:54I can't be stood in the car looking up at her, Winder.
13:56You say that he's a sex pest.
13:58It's like, look, he thought that was...
14:00No, no, no.
14:03What can you see through that?
14:05You've had a smirk on your face and all.
14:07What can you see through that?
14:09You say that he's a sex pest
14:11who doesn't like the fact that she's not interested
14:13and has decided to make her life a misery.
14:15He's decided that he's... What do you call it?
14:17Guess what else, Jenny?
14:19Hang on a minute.
14:21Shut up, he's speaking.
14:23Yeah, shut your gob.
14:25You've nothing to do with this.
14:27I have got something to do with it,
14:29because I've been...
14:32That Sarah would just come out.
14:34Yeah, but what's her relation to you?
14:36She's a stepdaughter.
14:38Oh, is she right? Dance on the Jeremy Carr show.
14:40Give her a round of applause.
14:42Don't you ever talk like that.
14:44Don't you ever talk to my stepdad like that.
14:46You've got nothing to do with this.
14:48You don't even know what he's like.
14:50And you don't want to get your facts right, you lady.
14:52My mother sat at home.
14:54She would not come on this show because she's ill.
14:56I'm ill.
14:58I'm ill.
15:00Your mother never comes in here.
15:02She's ill.
15:04She's not a liar like she is.
15:06And now you're talking to my stepdad like that.
15:08I can do.
15:10You don't even live here.
15:12And how many more months does she have at her house?
15:14Yeah, I know.
15:16I only spoke, I know what she's had to say.
15:18It's just one block after another, isn't it?
15:20It's my stepson.
15:22How come my mother came in with
15:24sweet packets that had been thrown at you?
15:26I'm in my mother's fish tank.
15:29I'm in my mother's fish tank.
15:31I haven't touched the fish.
15:33My fish has got trick or treating to you.
15:39Caroline.
15:41You've got a wall that big on one side.
15:43And then you've got it open.
15:45Hello.
15:47Hello.
15:49Excuse me.
15:51I've done this a long time.
15:53Shut up.
15:55Hello.
15:58The fish have been there now 12 months.
16:00They have not.
16:02Be quiet.
16:04I'll get it from each of you.
16:06Are you saying she poisoned the fish?
16:08I'm saying it's a possibility she poisoned the fish.
16:10She battered them.
16:12She could have dropped something in.
16:14The table's under our window.
16:16The table's under our window.
16:18You're saying he's a fancist.
16:20Caroline, can I just be heard?
16:22I don't know why Dot's doing this.
16:24It's affecting my mother's health.
16:26Why is this happening?
16:28Nobody else tell me.
16:30I go to my mum's.
16:32I've got a disabled child.
16:34And two little young siblings.
16:36Every time I go up there,
16:38I get complained at because my kid's making a noise.
16:40My child is disabled.
16:42He goes in that back garden.
16:44He's two years of age.
16:46And you're complaining about the noise.
16:48The fact of the matter is,
16:50if you bring it back to the neighbours,
16:52which is what this story's about,
16:55and you live,
16:57he's got Dot downstairs and Dot upstairs.
16:59Do you think your stepfather
17:01offered Dot downstairs a bit of what Dot upstairs is?
17:03I can't really comment on that one.
17:05You can't comment.
17:07If she's downstairs,
17:09he's been trying on.
17:11It's a bit dodgy to have cameras.
17:13It's always for my mum.
17:15If I'm shouting about your kid...
17:17He's not.
17:19He is not.
17:21He goes on holiday by himself.
17:24I let you go.
17:26I go to Ingham Hills.
17:28He goes to Canberra on his own.
17:30So he's not always with you.
17:32That's not yours, is it?
17:34You both complained to the council about each other, haven't you?
17:36That's the truth here.
17:38She said that if I go away for a week,
17:40I'm not a carer.
17:42My wife's a carer.
17:44If I go away for a week,
17:46she's going to put a complaint in.
17:48She's going to stop me going away for a week
17:50because I'm a carer.
17:52She's on her own.
17:54Yes, she is.
17:56My daughter does it as well.
17:58Your daughter only comes over so many times.
18:00Why is this happening?
18:02Because what it is, Jeremy,
18:04all the neighbours hate her in the street
18:06because all she can do...
18:08No, they don't.
18:10What are you going to do
18:12if your grandstep granddad
18:14has in fact offered her on a play?
18:16If he lies,
18:18then he's just got to go back and tell my nana.
18:21If you've lied and you've offered her sex,
18:23you're going to have to go back and tell your wife?
18:25Yes.
18:27So you've made that up, have you?
18:29Oh, yes, I always do.
18:31You're lying.
18:33She's told the neighbours
18:35that every time my wife goes to bed to rest,
18:37I'm knocking at her door asking for sex.
18:39No, I didn't.
18:41I feel slightly uncomfortable today.
18:43I feel like...
18:45I don't know.
18:47Let's find out if Walter Mitty
18:49should have been looking after Dot upstairs
18:51when he should have been looking after Dot downstairs.
18:53Lie detector results, please.
18:55How many people in the audience
18:57can you turn that camera tone with the haircut?
18:59Nice.
19:01Good.
19:03Put your hands up if you think Walter's been offering it
19:05on a play to Dot, too.
19:07Look at that.
19:09A large number of these people think you're...
19:11Well, obviously you two do, don't you?
19:13LAUGHTER
19:15It's like a lie detector.
19:18We asked Walter,
19:20your stepfather, your stepgrandfather,
19:22have you ever asked your neighbour Dot
19:24for sex?
19:26You said no, Walter, didn't you?
19:28I did.
19:30Why did you say no?
19:32Because I was telling the truth.
19:34Testers, you're a liar, Walter.
19:36LAUGHTER
19:38You're a liar!
19:40You're proud of him.
19:42I was telling the truth.
19:44Don't give him the card.
19:47He's a liar, he is.
19:49Yes, scumbag.
19:51LAUGHTER
19:53Caroline.
19:55I'm not fitting this test.
19:57Time for the truth, Walter, you know you offered it to her.
19:59She told you where to go.
20:01No, I did not.
20:03I don't know.
20:05Hey, buddy, buddy, buddy, shh.
20:07No, no, but you've made your point, that's what I'm trying to say.
20:09There's some people in there,
20:11they're asking to be quiet.
20:13Hold on a minute, hold on a minute.
20:15This guy's done the dirty against your mother
20:17and you're having a go at her.
20:19He is.
20:21Yeah, you've got your answers, fair enough.
20:23You offered it, you didn't cheat.
20:25Caroline, Caroline, he didn't cheat, he offered.
20:27You did, didn't you?
20:29She'd have seen your granddaughter's face.
20:31What's your response now?
20:33My nana, I'm thinking about my nana.
20:35My nana's poorly.
20:37I'm poorly.
20:39You're not, don't you?
20:41You make it up all the time.
20:44Look at you when I put the bin out
20:46when I went up my nana's the other day.
20:48Oh, you won't get more than that.
20:50No, you won't get any more than that.
20:52Why don't you sit on it and push it down
20:54and it might go down and won't it?
20:56Anyway, back to the story.
20:58Walter, you did, didn't you?
21:00If she didn't put so much dog shit in it,
21:02she might get the rubbish bin.
21:04I go to my nana's, Wallace, every day.
21:06Hello, sorry, what's going to happen now?
21:08You're going to have to go and tell your wife you're a liar.
21:10Yeah, according to this, yeah.
21:13How old are you?
21:1559.
21:17You know, there are really quite serious things going on in the world
21:19and from where I'm stood,
21:21you're arguing about some goldfish slash koi carp,
21:23several lumps of dog poo
21:25and an old man who probably, I don't know,
21:27might have put something in.
21:29Don't you actually think, right?
21:31You know, we've proven that you said it.
21:33You know, I think you should just try and either get on
21:35or just ignore each other and start scoring shit points.
21:37APPLAUSE
21:39What I'd like to get sorted out...
21:41What I'd like to get sorted out...
21:43You want her to move.
21:45Yes, he does.
21:47Why? Is she telling my neighbours that I'm a paedophile?
21:49No, I have not.
21:51You've got a letter, I believe?
21:53Yes, and the letter's...
21:55You're both wasting the police time,
21:57the council's time.
21:59Why don't you just get on with your own lives
22:01and let the other person get on with theirs?
22:03He won't let me.
22:05Why can't she just have a quiet life, ignore her?
22:08Because she doesn't have a quiet life.
22:10She's too much of that.
22:12Listen, we say that proves that you did it.
22:14You were lying, you know you were, weren't you?
22:16No, I wasn't.
22:18Yeah, whatever.
22:20This has just got to stop, he's infantile, I'm with him,
22:22this is pathetic.
22:24Leave his fish alone and stop pooing too
22:26in her garden.
22:28All right, well, Lee, stop pooing in her, not you,
22:30the dog's in her garden.
22:32Stop throwing sweet packets at me.
22:34Even when I moved my tongue,
22:37he's an adult.
22:39And he's got a camera.
22:41Why isn't it on the camera?
22:43In a minute, what's going to happen is one of you will be evicted.
22:45Grow up and just leave it, can't you?
22:47You go that way, you go that way.
22:49Go, go, go, go, go.
23:01I'm glad we sorted that out, aren't you, Steve?
23:03Old people argue about goldfish,
23:05dog poo and sex.
23:07After the break, more Lie Detector, right back,
23:09don't go anywhere.
23:11You sent pictures of other women in stockings
23:13to my husband that you wanted him to get pictures back.
23:15It's sick.
23:17I know it's wrong, it's sick, and I made a mistake.
23:19I made the biggest mistake of my life.
23:21She doesn't want you.
23:23She said she didn't know if we could be together.
23:25No, I told you I couldn't even look at you,
23:27you make me feel sick.
23:29Do you need to find out
23:31who is the father of the baby?
23:34It's time for that all-important DNA test.
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24:04Thank you very much indeed. Welcome back.
24:06My next guest today, Matt, says that he split with his partner,
24:08Amanda, just four days ago
24:10after he admitted to creating a fake
24:12Facebook account, trolling her and her
24:14ex-partner online. He says he's made a big
24:16mistake. He is desperate to win her back. He says,
24:18this woman is the love of my life.
24:20Please, Jess, can you help me get this woman
24:22to see that I want to be with her forever?
24:24Great. Matt's on the Jeremy Cahill show that way.
24:26APPLAUSE
24:29Welcome to the show.
24:31You love her, don't you?
24:33I do. She is my world.
24:35Right.
24:37When I pass this lie detector test,
24:39I will ask you to marry me.
24:41Yes.
24:43I want to spend the rest of my life with her.
24:45She's my everything.
24:47Look at all the women are going,
24:49the blokes are going...
24:51Why is she so special, Matt?
24:53We've just clicked.
24:55So much so that you're our Jeremy Cahill.
24:57She just makes me so happy.
24:59How did you meet? Online?
25:01We met online.
25:03She was staying where I worked.
25:05Was she?
25:07What, squatting?
25:09No, I work on a caravan site.
25:11It tells you when you've bumped into someone.
25:13What does?
25:15The dating website. Does it?
25:17We messaged each other on there
25:19and then that night
25:21I was working behind the bar
25:23and I saw her in the clubhouse
25:26Was it love?
25:28I believe it is not.
25:30Is it possible to fall in love with somebody straight away?
25:32I think it is.
25:34I have found my soul mate.
25:36That's really lovely.
25:38But you're honest enough to say
25:40that because you felt such strong feelings so quickly
25:42you also felt insecure.
25:44I did, yeah. I'm an insecure person as it is.
25:46I do struggle with my emotions at times.
25:48Now this obviously undermined the relationship
25:50and despite this marvellous beginnings
25:52you split up a few days ago.
25:54Explain to me why.
25:56So her ex-husband is always going to be on the scene.
25:58They've got kids together.
26:00I was feeling a little bit insecure
26:02so I used a profile
26:04of someone else
26:06to message him
26:08to flirt with him
26:10to try and get him
26:12Sorry, you were flirting with her ex-husband?
26:14Yeah.
26:16To try and get
26:18him to like
26:20see someone else.
26:23So you loved her so much
26:25you set up a fake profile
26:27Facebook account
26:29pretending to be a woman
26:31to try and attract her ex-husband
26:33because you were concerned
26:35that her ex-husband and her were too close.
26:37Yeah, so I know it's confusing
26:39and it's a total mess.
26:41Who's Paris?
26:43I don't know. This is the profile
26:45that I received a message from.
26:47See, we heard from her
26:49that you did one fake account
26:52a lot crammed into 12 weeks, 84 days
26:54I can't do the hours
26:56that she forgave you the first time
26:58but there was another one
27:00and she says you're barking mad, mate, really
27:02you're stalking her. She says that you're a nightmare.
27:04She says that I'm behind this one
27:06and I've come here today to prove that
27:08I wasn't behind this one
27:10I had nothing to do
27:12with this account
27:14Making up fake profiles and pretending to catch people
27:16even I know this is catfishing, right?
27:18Oh yeah, it's stupid. It's a stupid thing to do.
27:20Because I felt so insecure
27:22But you did the first one but not the second one
27:24and the second one was what split you up
27:26You say since we split she's been on my mind 24-7
27:28I need to win her back. I will prove to her
27:30Sunday I gave her flowers, Monday I put love notes on her car
27:32Awww
27:34Tuesday it was a tribute
27:36What was Tuesday?
27:38Tuesday was a tribute act
27:40On Monday there was an Olly Murs tribute act
27:42A what?
27:44An Olly Murs tribute act where I work
27:46and I got him to dedicate a song
27:49We used to sing to each other
27:51To her, to tell her how much I loved her
27:53What song was that?
27:55Up by Olly Murs and Demi Lovato
27:57I am getting old
27:59What's today about, pal?
28:01It's just proving my innocence
28:03I did the first one
28:05I didn't do the second one
28:07I love you, I want you back
28:09And I will win you back
28:11And I want to marry you
28:13It's not looking good
28:15Why did the second account hack her off
28:18It did a lot more than hack her off
28:20Because it slagged her off
28:22Why would you do that?
28:24Why would you set someone up to slag off
28:26the woman you're patently in love with?
28:28I wouldn't and as soon as I got the message
28:30I sent it to her so she could see
28:32So I did the first one
28:34The second one is why you got rid of me
28:36I want you back, flowers, love notes, tribute acts
28:38This is my day
28:40This is my big chance
28:42Matty, Amanda's on the Jeremy Carls show
28:44That way
28:48Thank you
28:52Amanda, welcome to the show
28:54I'm on the show
28:56to confront my stalking lying ex
28:58Matt and tell him to leave me alone
29:00He's in love with you and wants to marry you
29:02Yeah, good luck
29:04Talk to him
29:06It's stalkish, Matt
29:08You're stalking me
29:10I know, I admit I did the first profile
29:12and when you asked me
29:14It weren't just messages though
29:16It was pictures of other women in stockings
29:18to my husband that you wanted him to get
29:20pictures back
29:22I was scared I was losing you
29:24You know, we were drifting apart
29:26It's wrong, it's sick
29:28I know it's wrong, it's sick
29:30and I made a mistake, I made the biggest mistake of my life
29:32and I lost the woman I want to be with for the rest of my life
29:34It's sick, Matt
29:36When you met Matt, you fell in love with him
29:38as quickly as he fell in love with you?
29:40Yeah, we did fall in love quite quick
29:42Yeah?
29:45We've heard about this first fake Facebook account
29:47I can't even say it
29:49You seem to forgive him that, it's all about this second one
29:51I didn't think it was him at the time
29:53I didn't think it was him
29:55until I found out that the second one was him
29:57He denied it
29:59He denied it
30:01and everybody blamed my sister-in-law Jenna
30:03Everyone blamed her
30:05and I knew it wasn't her
30:07I knew deep down it was Matt
30:09You say he'll never leave me alone
30:11Nope, he doesn't
30:14You tell my team
30:16You say you're not interested
30:18No, I'm not interested
30:20All I can do is fight
30:22and that's all I've wanted to do
30:24I'm not trying to stalk you
30:26and I just want to be here today to admit
30:28that yeah, I did the first one
30:30but I didn't do the second one
30:32I would never slag you off
30:34Tell her what she means to you
30:36You mean everything to me
30:38You're my world
30:40You make me feel sick
30:42You make me feel complete
30:44and this is why I wanted to tell you
30:46Don't R him, guys
30:48Don't R him, really
30:50So all I want to do is try and put things right
30:52Well, it's too late
30:54You are a liar, aren't you?
30:56You put our kids into your car
30:58and drove around without a licence
31:00having told her you had a licence
31:02True or false?
31:04I never told her I had a licence
31:06What are you doing driving our kids around without a licence for then?
31:08I didn't have a licence
31:11Don't lie
31:13Yeah, you are stupid
31:15because if you'd moaned somebody over
31:17or killed them, you'd be in prison
31:19So don't break the law
31:21I won't break the law
31:23I've made one mistake
31:25I was breaking the law then
31:27I made a mistake
31:29Who's Jenna?
31:31I made a mistake, my sister-in-law
31:33Jenna's on the Jeremy Carr show
31:35She's coming that way
31:37Matt, you're just
31:39It's embarrassing
31:41It's not just embarrassing for you, it's embarrassing for her as well
31:43and it needs to stop
31:45She doesn't want you back
31:47She's never told me she didn't want me back
31:49She has told you loads of times
31:51I see the messages, Matt
31:53She doesn't want you
31:55She said she didn't know if we could be together
31:57No, I told you I couldn't even look at you
31:59You make me feel sick
32:01I just wanted to try and prove that I haven't lied about this other profile
32:03She just said you make her feel sick
32:06And all the children on the car park
32:08My niece and my nephews
32:10Sorry, I know I hope it's romantic
32:12Is there anything
32:14If he proves he didn't make
32:16Hi
32:18I'm trying to help you
32:20If he didn't do the second
32:22Try and help him, he will suck you in
32:24He says it was a mistake, he was doing it for three days
32:26He was texting for three days
32:28The driving thing annoys me completely
32:30With my three children
32:32You don't want him back
32:35She's not taking him back
32:37Is there anything he can do
32:39What if he proves the second one wasn't him
32:41No, he can prove it
32:43Why are you saying no
32:45She's not getting back with him
32:47Do you want him for yourself
32:49I just want to try and put things right
32:51She means the world to me
32:53She always will mean the world to me
32:55No matter what happens
32:57Maybe don't drive the kids when you haven't got a license
32:59So this is to prove
33:01That you didn't make
33:03This Facebook account
33:05Was basically aimed at your ex-husband
33:07And because he was jealous
33:09That you were close
33:11You said you wanted him to move his attention
33:13You came out and said
33:15I had pictures of women in stockings
33:17Just a bit weird behaviour
33:19It was three days
33:21Did you ever create a Facebook account
33:23Under the name of Paris
33:25That was the second one
33:27You didn't do that one
33:29So you said no
33:32Did you ever send a message
33:34From the Facebook account in the name of Paris
33:36You said no
33:38Take that
33:40Tell us the truth
33:42Can I tell you something
33:44That you might not like
33:46Even old man Carl
33:48We've all been in love
33:50We've all been in love
33:52With somebody that's not reciprocated
33:54And the hardest thing in the world
33:56Is to admit that you've messed up
33:58Or it just isn't going to happen
34:01I came here today to prove it
34:03You're a liar
34:05You lied
34:07You lied about everything
34:09You lied about having a licence
34:11You lied about sending messages
34:13From fake Facebook accounts
34:15I got the blame for that Facebook
34:17And as soon as I knew you got the blame
34:19I told the truth
34:21You haven't told the truth
34:23That's why we're here
34:25You brought me here on national TV
34:27Embarrassed me
34:29I wouldn't slag you off
34:31You've done it
34:33It's not gone great has it
34:35No
34:37It's absolutely ridiculous
34:39You had flowers backstage
34:41She don't want them
34:43He wanted to propose to you
34:45With a Haribo ring
34:47Because he said it was your favourite sweetie
34:49What Haribo since when
34:51One of your favourite sweeties
34:53That's another lie
34:55So where are we at then
34:58I'm going that way
35:00I'm going that way
35:02I'm going that way
35:04I'm going that way
35:06I'm going that way
35:08I'm going that way
35:10I'm going that way
35:12I'm going that way
35:14I'm going that way
35:16I'm going that way
35:18I'm going that way
35:20I'm going that way
35:22I'm going that way
35:24I'm going that way
35:27Can I have these
35:29Thank you very much
35:31Ladies and gentlemen I've wanted to do this for a long long time
35:35There's somebody that's
35:37I have to be really honest
35:39There's somebody here that means the world to me
35:51Going to a break see you in a minute
35:57You're pretty fair to him
35:59You're a waste of space
36:01Do you think he stole the money
36:03Well I think there's a good chance yeah
36:05Where's the
36:07I was asking you
36:09So this just in
36:11And it's breaking news this morning
36:13Apparently Graham something big is happening in Media City
36:15Yeah let's find out what's happening from our weatherman
36:17There's a storm brewing Mr Carroll
36:27Fuck off
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36:35Fuck the shit
36:37Get out of my studio
36:39Get in there
36:41Fuck the shit
36:43Get off of me
36:45I'm breaking news
36:47Come here
36:49Fuck the shit
36:51Fuck the shit
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36:55Fuck the shit
37:01Fuck the shit
37:05Fuck the shit
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37:42APPLAUSE
37:50Welcome back. My guest today, Michelle, is here because her best friend
37:53Violet's ex-partner, Anthony, has accused her of stealing from their son's money tin.
37:57Now, Michelle says, after realising the money had gone missing,
38:00Anthony was the prime suspect but tried to pin the blame on her.
38:03She says he is a waster that has put drugs and alcohol before his son
38:06and all this is just another attempt to get back with Violet.
38:09She says it's not going to happen today, any day.
38:12She says, I ain't a thief. I'm not so sure about it.
38:15Michelle is on The Jeremy Carr Show.
38:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:25Take a seat. Welcome to the show. Are you OK? I'm fine, yeah.
38:28I'm going to keep this very, very simple.
38:30Your friend Violet was in a relationship with Anthony?
38:33Yes, she was indeed, yeah. They're not together any more? No.
38:36Why are you here?
38:37Because he accused me of stealing their child's money out of a money box.
38:40He accused you of stealing money from their child's money box.
38:44You think that's a front, you think that that's him trying to pin the blame on you
38:48because you're close to Violet and because you've been there for her,
38:51a shoulder to cry on as their relationship disintegrated. Yeah.
38:55What do you... You think he's stolen it?
38:58Yeah, 100%.
39:00He has, yeah.
39:02Why would he steal from his own son? Because he's a thief.
39:05Why are you smiling when you say that? And he needs money for drugs and drink.
39:08You told my team as well, apart from it being for drugs and drink,
39:11it's not even about that. With his son, it's just about this woman.
39:14He's jealous, he's possessive, he wants her back. Yeah.
39:17Does she want him back? No.
39:19So you today are here to clear your name, having been falsely accused, you say.
39:23He will fall flat on his face and she's going to be strong and come out.
39:27In fact, you told my team, 100% he'll fail, I'll pass and she will leave with me.
39:31Yeah.
39:33Are you the reason they won't get back together? No.
39:37Yes, you are, Michelle. I'm not, aren't I?
39:39See, if you're big enough to come out, come out and slam her now.
39:42Right, Michelle. Let's go.
39:44Ooh!
39:46I'm your grandmother.
39:48I won't touch you, Michelle.
39:50Who do you think you are?
39:52I don't want you. That's all right, I'm here to clear my name, right?
39:55You're a pretty fair name, you're a waste of space.
39:57Do you think... No, you do.
40:01I'm not going to hit you.
40:03I'm not going to hit you. I'm not going to touch you, Michelle.
40:05Come on, let's go.
40:07Because I let you tell you something.
40:09I'm like, your friend doesn't even like you.
40:11You haven't sworn. Steal from shops.
40:13Now, you're the one who got him to call her.
40:17Can you all sit down?
40:19You got him to call her.
40:22You said...
40:24I'm sorry.
40:26You're a waste of space.
40:28Get out of my face, Michelle.
40:30What are you going to do?
40:32I'm not going to touch you, Michelle. I know you're not.
40:34Are you on drugs? Me? No, I'm not on drugs.
40:36Let's see.
40:38You refused to do a drugs test.
40:40You have that in your bags.
40:42He's a waster.
40:44He's a waster.
40:46Did you steal them?
40:48No, I didn't.
40:50So you're doing a lie detector as well.
40:52By the way, sorry, you're violent.
40:54Are you with him any more? No.
40:56Do you think he stole the money?
40:58Well, I think there's a good chance, yeah.
41:00But apparently it was all on her. Why's it on her?
41:02No, because I was told...
41:04He's jealous of her, that's why it's on her.
41:06Why are you in a relationship with her?
41:08Oh, you think they're in a lesbian relationship?
41:10I'm married for three years and been with a fella 25 years.
41:14I do apologise.
41:16I'm a lesbian.
41:18Are you in a lesbian relationship with her?
41:20What are you doing?
41:22Can you speak to me?
41:24Can you speak to Blackley now?
41:26Excuse me, can you two stop going on?
41:28That's my husband, I can speak to him any way I want.
41:30But you're a waster.
41:32A waster!
41:34You're a waster!
41:36You're a waster!
41:38Do you know what that is?
41:40Because you always go for her, you always run to hit her.
41:42But...
41:44...the way she does.
41:46That's all right.
41:48Has he been violent?
41:50You're a firecracker, aren't you now?
41:52She's a what now?
41:54A what?
41:56It takes a waster to know a waster.
41:58All right.
42:00APPLAUSE
42:04Can you tell me about the relationship when you were with him?
42:06From the start?
42:08Well, just really generally, because it was up and down, wasn't it?
42:10Well, the start was brilliant, yes.
42:12It was good.
42:14And do you believe that his...
42:16I believe there's good chance he did.
42:18Does he see the child?
42:20He's saying, I wouldn't do that, I'm a good dad,
42:22we didn't work out, this lady's stirring up...
42:24You have to respect that way more than you'll ever respect him,
42:26because you think you drink every weekend,
42:28you think you're drugs.
42:30Hello, do you want to be back with her?
42:32The child doesn't even know it.
42:34You're in love with her still, aren't you?
42:36You're always drinking when you have...
42:38Sir!
42:40Let's go!
42:42We've got... Oi, buddy.
42:44Come here.
42:46Don't say that, I can't do the...
42:48Oh, here we go, the Carl Olympics.
42:50He's a whistler!
42:52I was asking you to...
42:54Oi, start on me, I thought it was about your kid.
42:56But if you cared about your kid,
42:58because you know what you're doing now,
43:00everybody's going to think you're guilty,
43:02because you...
43:04I'll speak to you about it down the hall.
43:06Go for it, what's up?
43:08Yeah, it's been a while since you had some, is it?
43:12Then do the results and prove you're innocent.
43:14Come on, Andy, let's go and do the results.
43:16Let's go and do the results.
43:18You wanted to prove you're innocent,
43:20why are you having a go at me?
43:22Well, then you're reacting...
43:24I have half a...
43:26You're giving her what...
43:28Anthony, you're giving her
43:30what she wants, aren't you?
43:32Get me the results.
43:34Michelle.
43:36Mate, you've got to listen to this.
43:40Michelle asked both questions,
43:42she didn't need the money.
43:44No, you did!
43:48Did he? Do you think he's told...
43:50No, you're having a go at me now.
43:52Come on, guys, let's go and find out whether he did it.
43:54Where's he gone?
43:56Come on, Faye, hurry up.
43:58Can I do your results,
44:00or are you running because you're a liar?
44:02Just do your results.
44:04No, he was telling the truth as well.
44:06He's a liar!
44:08Anthony!
44:10Mate, I'm trying to help you, buddy.
44:12I'm trying to help you, buddy.
44:14Go and do a drugs test.
44:16Go and do a drugs test.
44:18Go and do a drugs test.
44:20That's what I was trying to do.
44:22Go and do a drugs test.
44:24Go and do a drugs test.
44:26Go and do a drugs test.
44:28Go and do a drugs test.
44:30Do a drugs test as well.
44:32Can you do me a favour?
44:34Can you...
44:36Why did she refuse to do a drugs test?
44:38I told you...
44:40Sorry?
44:44Get her away.
44:46Right, can you just...
44:48Just take a chill pill a minute.
44:50Don't take any potions.
44:52Seriously, you have a kid together.
44:54You do say out there he's a good dad,
44:56but you had reservations about what's happening.
44:58I love my son more than anything.
45:00What?
45:02I love my son more than anything.
45:04Just take her away.
45:06I won't.
45:08What's going to happen?
45:10You've got a kid.
45:12Could we not sit the two of you two down?
45:14This is why I was chasing you.
45:16Could you ask her to just chill a minute?
45:18He is the father of everything.
45:20He didn't steal the money.
45:22There's obviously a lot of issues about the kid.
45:24Graham, could you come in a minute?
45:26Thank God you're not together.
45:28Could we not sit down and try and do something
45:30for the sake of this kid?
45:32This is about a mum and dad.
45:34He didn't steal,
45:36but obviously there's a lot of issues.
45:38That's what we're going to do.
45:40That's why I was running after you,
45:42because you passed it, all right?
45:44But listen, every time you see if you react,
45:46I know it's the hardest thing in the world,
45:48but if you react, then you give that person reason.
45:50Do you understand what I'm saying?
45:52In a room with her, with him, take some time.
45:54I'm out of time. I'll see you very soon.
45:56Thanks for watching. Take care. Bye for now.
45:58In that room.
46:06APPLAUSE