Boston Globe media writer Chad Finn joins the show to take a big-picture look at the offseason, then dive into Super Bowl LIX from Patriots and broadcast perspectives. Will this be Tom Brady's last game as a broadcaster? Did he live up to expectations? Later, the guys take turns building out a drinking game based on what Brady will say during the Super Bowl broadcast Sunday.
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24:15 - Most Interesting Aspect of Super Bowl
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00:00All right, a crossover event that would have some of our newspaper ancestors rolling over
00:17in their crusty graves.
00:18The great Chad Finn of the Boston Globe is here.
00:21Chad, have we gone soft, like the NBA here, you know, the way that like people, media
00:26just want to play with and podcast with their friends as opposed to the 1980s when this
00:30never would have happened, this podcast?
00:32Yeah, completely soft, for sure.
00:35But you know what it is?
00:36I blame it on like sports radio and TV, where it's all intertwined.
00:40You turn on, I see you on NBC Sports Boston, you turn on NBC Sports Boston, and it's an
00:45EEI host with a 98.5, the sports hub host.
00:49So and you're all kind of in the same boat these days anyway.
00:52So might as well talk to your friends, right?
00:55Yeah, fair enough.
00:56And honestly, you know, look, I think that's another thing newspaper guys do is blame the
01:00TV and radio folks for asking the dumb questions or giving me interviews.
01:03So like, we're still aligned there in an old sense and an old spirit.
01:07You and I are gonna talk some Patriots here today, and then we're gonna get into Tom Brady
01:09when I've teased now a couple episodes ago, the Tom Brady drinking game as we all eagerly
01:13await Super Bowl 50.
01:15I don't even know what it is.
01:16Chiefs Eagles is coming up.
01:17It's gonna be a great game on Sunday, and Tom is going to broadcast this.
01:20But I want to do the best thing we can do here in the media, which is, of course, under
01:25promise and over deliver.
01:26Let's go back to May 25th, 2022.
01:30Last time you were on this podcast, there were some comments left at a time where I
01:33didn't know what I was doing, hosting, recording here.
01:36Let's just revisit how that one went.
01:37And we were talking about how the Patriots could improve in 2022, doing a big solid to
01:41them, layout, areas, optimism, and then we did some media stuff.
01:45Here were some of the comments, just a sampling.
01:47Well, what was the point of this quote?
01:51There's nothing more New England sports than half a podcast of New England sports writers
01:56patting New England sports writers on the back.
01:59This podcast sucked.
02:01Great job, gents.
02:02You think we can do better this time around?
02:06Those are my fans, not yours.
02:08No, no, no, no, no.
02:09That was that was a haphazard operation.
02:11I was lucky just to get a signal and to record.
02:13I think we'll be much better.
02:15And I'm looking forward because look, everyone could do the podcast on the 2025 Patriots could
02:19get better, which is just, I don't know, play, play football as opposed to last year.
02:24But but let's look at the offseason because I think also before we get granular in the
02:28Super Bowl or the teams or any broadcasting stuff, I think it's important just to get
02:31some perspective.
02:32And we look at this offseason and everyone talks about the cap space and the coaching
02:35staff has been finalized and the draft will come up later.
02:38How patient should they be?
02:39This is a rebuild.
02:40We know it's a rebuild, but the more hope, you know, grows, it could affect our expectations.
02:46Do you want this at as much talent as soon as possible?
02:50Or just understand this is where you are.
02:52This takes two to three years and follow the traditional rebuild path.
02:55Yeah, more the latter there.
02:57I think you you can be selective about it.
02:59I can see a world where they trade for Cooper Cup if the price is OK and they feel like
03:07it fits financially, which it should.
03:10And, you know, they get a sense that maybe some receivers that others anticipate coming
03:16here or hope come here won't, T. Higgins or somebody like that, you know, everything
03:21you read from Bengals players and personnel is that they absolutely love the guy and really,
03:26really want him to stay there.
03:28And it's hard to leave Joe Burrow.
03:29So we'll see how that shakes out.
03:31But I think that makes sense.
03:34I don't just can't see them, not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but I can't see them
03:41giving up what they would need to give up to get Myles Garrett.
03:45Ideally, you'd love to have him.
03:47He's one of the best defensive players in the NFL.
03:50He's a one man wrecking ball.
03:52But this is a team that needs so much.
03:55The most important thing for them is to get the draft right and to get a string of drafts
04:00right and get that influx of talent on the roster.
04:04Because, you know, we saw we saw every game all year.
04:09They were devoid at a lot of positions.
04:11And you look at them doing that assessment now.
04:13I think there are players that are going to be much better for Mike Vrabel than they
04:18were for Gerard Mayo.
04:19I think some of those players that regressed under Mayo that had success for Bill Belichick
04:23will be better with Vrabel.
04:26But you just look at Drake May, you look at Christian Gonzalez, and you wonder where else
04:30the core players are.
04:31And so you got to get those guys in on rookie contracts and just hit the draft right.
04:36And if they were a team that was on the thought they had a real shot at the playoffs next
04:41year, maybe winning a round or two and getting Myles Garrett would take them further.
04:46It would make a lot of sense.
04:48But just the condition they're in right now, they've just got to build up and build up
04:52and build up.
04:53And that's free agency, too.
04:54That's you're not going to be like the offseason of 2020, 2021, where you sign 20 free agents
05:01and it seemed like every single one of them helped them in 21, including Mike Vrabel is
05:05probably arguably the best free agent signing in Patriots history.
05:11But you need to hit those mid-level guys, too.
05:14You can't allot all of that for a Myles Garrett or somebody else, even with the money that
05:20they have to spend.
05:21They're just too far away.
05:22Arguably best in Patriots history.
05:24I never considered Mike Vrabel in that category, which, of course, just like I did trade value
05:29earlier this week, and you're taking into consideration age and the contract and the
05:33position they play.
05:34Mike Vrabel, if you were going to make that case, which I don't know if you are, and I'll
05:37give you time in a second to do it or not.
05:39You would say, OK, you got eight great years leader, played a bunch of positions, then
05:44came back and saved you as a head coach, which he's not coming back unless he had played
05:48in the first place and established that relationship with the crafts who say, fine, here are the
05:52keys.
05:53Just kind of come back.
05:54Rodney Harrison was always the top this list, in my opinion, without reaching out for a
05:58while.
05:59Yeah.
06:00Is that are you going to make the case now?
06:01Is Mike Vrabel best free agent signing ever considered what's happened, especially now
06:05lately?
06:06In context, I'd put him in the conversation.
06:08I think I'd go Rodney, but they spent money on Rodney and Roosevelt Colvin that same offseason.
06:15Got hurt.
06:16Wasn't the same player, but good free agent signing still good, good Patriot.
06:19But that that offseason and after the 2020 season, they brought in so many guys that
06:26ended up being really helpful here.
06:27I think one of the most underrated Patriots of all time is Roman Pfeiffer, who is just
06:32solid.
06:33He was just good at everything.
06:34And you don't see guys like that on the roster right now.
06:37There aren't a lot of those guys where you can just say, that's a really dependable guy.
06:40And that was.
06:44With Vrabel, you know, he was a backup a little with the Steelers.
06:48They bring him in and he ends up being a core guy for eight years.
06:52He ends up being a culture setter, a guy who made a heck of a tight end in the playoffs,
06:58touchdown scoring tight end.
07:00And I, you could argue that he helped get the dynasty started by hitting Kurt Warner,
07:05but threw it right to Ty Law, who went right down the sideline.
07:09And then all of a sudden you're saying, wait, do the Patriots have a chance against the
07:12Rams here?
07:13So I would put Vrabel based on expectations, based on what they paid him that first contract
07:19and based on what he ultimately ended up being as in the conversation for the best
07:24in franchise history.
07:25All right.
07:26We would have loved to have pushed you over the top there, gotten the headline, the YouTube
07:30clip and put it all over social, greatest free agent signing ever in the conversation.
07:33Congrats.
07:34It's like the extension of getting MVP votes, right?
07:36Like Tatum's in the conversation, he's not going to win MVP, like it's a good place to
07:40be, but that's, that's how that hit my ear.
07:45I'd put it more like, uh, yeah, more like, uh, maybe, maybe a little higher ballot.
07:50Maybe like, um, I don't know who would finish second or third this year, but I'd put variable
07:55second or third.
07:56I, I, I think Shay's going to win the NBA MVP, maybe Jokic cause his numbers are crazy.
08:02So whoever's behind those two guys, that's who variable is.
08:05All right.
08:06Uh, to answer my own question, I think you can have a framework, right?
08:10Of what we want to do, where we think we're going to go.
08:12And obviously you want to map out how we get there.
08:15But I would say is you want to take that two to three year timeline, but not use it as
08:18an excuse to overlook any potential opportunities.
08:22Like I've been pro trade for miles Garrett, because I think when you take a look at that
08:25two to three year timeline, when can we commit, be competitive?
08:28How can we do this?
08:30He threads every single needle, like a, it's just a generational pass rusher.
08:35Okay.
08:36Physical freak, former number one, overall pick 15 sacks per season, each of the last
08:39four years.
08:40He's only 29.
08:41People knows him.
08:42He can fit in that two to three year window.
08:44Why I've been more reluctant on the Cooper cup stuff is I go, okay, he'll probably have
08:47a decent season coming up, but then he's 33 trying to downward.
08:51Yeah.
08:52Right.
08:53Like he doesn't fit the window here.
08:54So I just don't, all teams make calls.
08:56Some of them leak out and then it gets to be this aggregated story bigger than it was.
08:59I want the Patriots to turn over every single stone and look at this with the urgency of
09:04getting better.
09:05But within a two to three year timeframe, which isn't always, you know, stockpile draft
09:10picks and have the rookies all get better at the same time, you need adults in the room,
09:14but be patient with the understanding that that doesn't mean we need to ignore things
09:18that might fall into our lap.
09:19Yeah.
09:20I mean the, the, the one case I think that if I were making the case to bring Garrett
09:25here, um, you know, not knowing what the cost is, I mean, you gotta figure it's multiple
09:29first round picks.
09:30And do you think they're going to be a better team next year where that next year's first
09:33rounder is lower down.
09:35Uh, but if I were making that case, I would say, uh, it's not the most enviable year to
09:41be in the number four spot in the draft, depending on where those quarterbacks shake out, um,
09:47whether shit or Sanders ends up being somebody that goes in that top four or falls a little
09:51bit lower.
09:52Um, I think Kim Ward's probably going to be in there, but, uh, you're looking at a situation
09:58where maybe you, you don't get Carter, Abdul Carter, you don't get, um, Travis Hunter.
10:03And then suddenly you're saying, Oh, well, Campbell could be a left tackle if his really
10:08good left tackle, if his arms are long enough.
10:11Um, so if you're looking at this draft and looking at a number four pick and saying that
10:16in a really good year, it's the guy you're taking, there would be the 10th pick.
10:20Then maybe you can rationalize it rationalizes too strong of a word because it's miles Garrett.
10:25So if you do trade for the downside is, uh, the worst case scenarios, Oh, we gave up a
10:30bunch of draft picks to get one of the best defensive players in the NFL.
10:33Yeah.
10:34A guy who you also don't have to worry about off the field.
10:36Like he's, he's healthy.
10:38Um, so that's on the field, but he's only missed two games in the last four years.
10:42Rable knows more helmet swinging.
10:43He's done with that.
10:44Yeah.
10:45Yeah.
10:46Yeah.
10:47For sure.
10:48Uh, what's a, what's a successful off season to me?
10:49This is short, like the best offensive tackles and I'm talking two or three in the best receiver
10:53right now.
10:54It's not on the roster.
10:55If that changes by May to me, like to put it in simplest terms, you need better depth
10:59and this and that and better defense or players, the Adiata, but like those positions have
11:02been black holes for so long.
11:03I look at it that way.
11:04What would be a successful off season for the Patriots here?
11:07February six as we record.
11:09Yeah.
11:10Repairing the offensive line would be, uh, at the top of the list to the point where
11:15you're going into the, uh, going into the season, being confident about it, which nobody
11:21was last year for good reason, as it turned out.
11:25Um, I'm really interested to see if any of the guys they have on the roster that they've
11:29drafted last year, the last couple of years that the variable and the coaching staff believes
11:35in.
11:36Do they, do they like Leighton Robinson?
11:37Do they like, uh, Wallace?
11:39Um, you know, do they think Jake Andrews is going to be a guy who's a part of this thing
11:44down the road?
11:45Does David Andrews still have enough left to be a starting center?
11:48I have much more faith in their assessments and what they have on the line now than I
11:53do.
11:54It did with the staff that was here before.
11:56Um, but they obviously need multiple additions to the, the let you, you cannot have a Darian
12:02Lowe playing meaningful snaps next year.
12:04There are who, um, probably don't belong in the NFL, so yeah, yeah.
12:15So remedy that and go into the season feeling good about that.
12:19And, and that, that counts as major progress to me is if, uh, if you can see clear repair
12:24marks on that offensive line before the season begins.
12:27Yeah.
12:28All right.
12:29Let's go for some potential feel good to some anxiety because I think a lot of folks in
12:33our position here, and I've done this on radio and talk about on TV, you know, the, the starting
12:39point, the premise is, Oh, Patriots fans are getting very anxious about the chief success
12:43and they're mad.
12:44And I don't know how we measure that.
12:45Like I can check my mentions.
12:47I can listen to people who call into the radio.
12:49I don't think people who respond to me on Twitter, uh, or, or call in two to six, whatever,
12:54maybe a representative of the whole fan base, but that's what we've got to go with is this
12:57kind of sample.
12:58Do you think that folks are anxious about if the chiefs win Sunday, they've repeated
13:03something never done in the Superbowl era of NFL history, something the Patriots never
13:07did and are encroaching on the Patriots territory.
13:10And are you personally a little, please don't.
13:14When you look ahead to this game, uh, I think people, people are Patriots fans are probably
13:21anxious about it, but, uh, they can, they've got a card that they can pull, I think, which
13:28is a Brady beat my homes, uh, to get to, you know, to get to the Patriots, uh, Superbowl
13:35victory in 2018 over the Rams and six is more than four.
13:39Even if you get to four, congrats are still two years away, you know, when it gets, uh,
13:43and you know, there's anxiety when Patriots fans start counting the seventh that Brady
13:47won with the Buccaneers as one in his favor, uh, that's seven rings like bills does, you
13:52know, or like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:56But yeah, I, I think, uh, actively probably the majority are rooting against the chiefs
14:02this week.
14:03It's the, the Eagles aren't exactly the most lovable fan base either.
14:06And they, you know, they stuck a knife in your side and the Superbowl, uh, what, uh,
14:11two that, uh, I guess it was seven years ago, seven seasons ago, 2017 season.
14:17Um, so, uh, there's no one to root for here for Patriots fan, but, uh, if the chiefs do
14:24win, you, you look at it and say, ah, too bad Patriots lost to Jake Plummer and the
14:29Broncos in oh five and didn't get that third in a row.
14:32But you also say, well, let's see my homes do this for a nearly 20 years.
14:36Like Tom Brady did.
14:37Let's see them win six.
14:38It's hard to win one, you know, they'll have, uh, they'll have a
14:41nice little stack of them, but it's, uh, I think we forget how hard it is just to win
14:47one Superbowl.
14:48And at some point the chiefs are going to realize that too.
14:51Yeah.
14:52Look, the Eagles spoiled.
14:53What would have been a three Pete for the Patriots 2016, 2017, 2018, who's to say they
14:57can't do it again.
14:58And I think the analysis of, oh, Ken Mahomes, the greatest quarterback in the league, even
15:03though he didn't play like it this year, overcome the most talented team in the league, which
15:07was the kind of trite analysis two years ago when these two teams met, you know, it
15:11diminishes, uh, how the Eagles are built.
15:13I, I think they can win in multiple ways now.
15:15And I'm just super excited about this game.
15:17I've talked about this before in this podcast.
15:18Okay.
15:19So I know most of you still remember, it's only been about five years, the Patriots playing
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15:26That's what January and February is all about.
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16:57because this is a storyline that has to keep coming up.
17:00How much longer is Andy Reid going to coach because his replacement matters a whole heck
17:04of a lot.
17:05And you could give like the examples, oh, Barry Switzer still won, you know, when he
17:08took over for Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys and Aikman got another ring and George Seifer
17:12after Bill Walsh left in the Niners.
17:14But after that went downhill, yeah, I don't know how much longer read is going to coach.
17:18But as it stands right now, again, let's say that they win.
17:21Who is closer to catching who is at Andy Reid looking up at Bill Belichick being considered
17:26the greatest coach ever?
17:28Or is it my homes before ring is the greatest start to quarterback career ever?
17:32Looking up at Brady still under 30 with four.
17:35Who's closer to catching the greatest Patriot coach of all time?
17:38I think read is in terms of total wins when you have the playoffs and you know how close
17:43he is in the regular season to I think that's probably going to happen unless he stuns us
17:49out of, you know, stuns us and retires in the next two seasons.
17:52But you know, like I said before, the quarterback Mahomes Mahomes is ahead of Brady's pace,
17:58but that pace is so hard to keep.
18:02Nobody is going to sustain what the Patriots sustained.
18:05I think again in NFL history, even with the nine year gap where they didn't want a Super
18:09Bowl, they were contending for them.
18:12And then you have the bookends of the dynasty where they won three on each end of it with
18:16the same quarterback in the same coach.
18:18That's not going to be repeated.
18:20The real question is how long does this last from a homes when you know Fandy reads no
18:25longer the coach?
18:26I don't know if there's a successor even that they've thought about when Travis Kelsey who
18:31You know, who knows?
18:32Maybe this is his last game.
18:33We'll see when he's gone and you know, they run into what the Patriots ran into after
18:3920 years with a roster just wasn't replenished through the draft anymore.
18:43So I feel like the shelf life for this Chiefs team is going to be shorter at the dynasty
18:51level than it was for the Patriots who sustained it in a way that nobody will ever do again.
18:56So I think for me, I see it the other way in terms of Mahomes again, the consideration
19:01this is like the public perception not actually in terms of numbers though, obviously that
19:04drives a lot of the argument.
19:06I think people already want to make the case now unfoundedly my opinion that Mahomes is
19:11as good as Brady with three rings versus seven and you can do different measurements.
19:14Obviously, I think we should more than Super Bowls because wins are not a quarterback stat.
19:18But the point is he's done things and played the game in a way that Brady never did.
19:22It doesn't make him greater all time.
19:24But what it does is if you get another ring and you say, you know, he escapes better creates
19:30better is playing in this era and has done all these things.
19:33You could make a case like I think some folks do for LeBron over MJ if he gets at least
19:39in the neighborhood with the championships to say he's my as a kid would say go which
19:44to me does not make any sense.
19:46But we're not going to debate the kids in this podcast because you always lose against
19:49the kids whenever you want to argue against them.
19:51But it's the perception part where he started was so hot and he's only continued to ascend.
19:56Whereas Andy Reid, I think we still picture that guy who just can never get over the hump
19:59Philadelphia and he's been great.
20:00He's an all-time coach, but there's just a gap.
20:03I don't know if he ever gets to close with Belichick who yes Duncan Cleveland, but immediately
20:07erased that stink and deodorize what happened with the Browns by winning a Super Bowl in
20:11his second season in New England not to mention having the mastermind reputation when he was
20:15with the Giants.
20:16Yeah.
20:17Oh, yeah.
20:18No, I think Belichick is a better coach.
20:19Just in terms of, you know, counting stats or whatever you want to call him.
20:23I think Reid probably catches them, you know, Andrew the really thing that has kind of caught
20:29me by surprise with the Chiefs and watching this happen again with them and the phase
20:34that they're in where you watch the way they won this year at least until their receiver
20:39core got healthy and added some acquisitions and was much better at the end of the year
20:45than it was at the start of the year.
20:46But I felt like watching my homes this year was like watching early Brady in a way where
20:51it was just not caretaker or game manager anything like that, but just super efficient
20:57and taking what's there and not being the freewheeling the homes that came into the
21:01league and you know, lit everything up right away.
21:05I'm really interested to see where his career goes from here in terms of what kind of quarterback
21:11he is five years from now, but watching this Chiefs team just makes me appreciate the way
21:19they win makes me appreciate more the way the Patriots won and the reminders of that
21:26and I know people think Kansas City gets all the calls.
21:30I think it feels it does feel that way sometimes there are certainly situations where you feel
21:37like they got a break.
21:38Maybe they didn't deserve a spot like against Buffalo, but you know that stuff happens happens
21:43with the Patriots when you're there all the time and just watching them make the right
21:48play over and over rise in the biggest moment over and over.
21:52It's really reminiscent of what the Patriots did at their best in that way.
21:55And so you're watching a team challenge them and trying to come for their crown and it
22:01has this nice ancillary effect of just refreshing your memories about how great it was to watch
22:06the team that you cared about or covered do that over and over again.
22:10This podcast is already so soaked syrupy nostalgia all over the place.
22:14I love so much Roman 500 references and I'm with you though because you think about the
22:19way that they won and everyone's like the Chiefs continue to find a new way to win.
22:23They can bank on their defense in a way that the early 2000s Patriots could bank on their
22:27defense case always there and it's a matter of what edges are you being provided offensively
22:31into special teams.
22:32They blocked a kick to preserve a win.
22:34They had a game-winning field goal go off the upright and fall in and the way that you
22:38could have watched that game and gone that wasn't the Chargers that was the Jets who
22:42were across and Brady and you just kind of get that bounce because as the Chiefs on the
22:45Chargers the Patriots on the Jets and the other thing I would say is the problem solving
22:49is really impressed me with Kansas City right the ability to win in different ways and not
22:52just the luck of a field goal or a field goal block but in the way that he for the first
22:57half of the season was lowest in the league and average depth of target.
23:01This is a guy whose career took off throwing bombs to Tyree kill come back in the Super
23:06Bowl just chucking it from whatever angle he wanted and finding Hill downfield now he's
23:10dinking dunking and just winning by a little bit because you know, we can do this at the
23:14end.
23:15We've done it in the end and that kind of confidence and that kind of inevitability
23:18which is finally consumed everyone.
23:19I think picking this game even says well, they're going to win in the end same way we
23:23felt 20 years ago.
23:24Yeah, I wonder if that's the case with every team that gets that level where not just one
23:29Super Bowl but like the early 90s Cowboys of those great Niners teams who have a pretty
23:33sustained run with two quarterbacks where they they feel that same way in those situations
23:41where all right, nothing's gone right today, but this is where we go out and win it and
23:45then they do and maybe that's a characteristic of all great teams, but just watching it and
23:51you know, the current context over this century essentially, there's just so much familiarity
23:57with what the Chiefs are doing and what the Patriots did for so long.
24:00Yeah, they're well-rounded.
24:01You know, those first really Chiefs teams were great, but their defense stunk.
24:05And so if it wasn't Mahomes powering with this all-time offense, they didn't have really
24:08have a plan B now the way they play you got a plan B C D E and F. All right, one quick
24:13thing on the field then we'll get to Brady.
24:16What's the most interesting thing to you about this game?
24:19Just anything around or involving the Super Bowl and what we could see on Sunday.
24:27The Saquon effect because I can't tell you how many times I've gone back, you know, when
24:32he goes out and you like runs for three times runs breaks on 68 yards on a playoff game
24:36or whatever.
24:38My immediate reaction is to go to YouTube and watch the hard knocks with the Giants
24:44when they're rationalizing to John Mara about why they're not going to let him go and and
24:49why they're going to let him go and don't want to pay him and their director of pro
24:55scouting trying to subtly say maybe we're making a mistake here and just seeing how
25:01it all played out and Saquon ending up in the absolute best situation for him.
25:08I feel like there's a culmination coming Sunday where you know, he just rips through that
25:13Chiefs defense a possible culmination coming Sunday and rips through that Chiefs defense
25:17and puts the ultimate exclamation mark on a season that began with one of the worst
25:22teams in the NFL letting him go to arrival, right?
25:26Yeah, I love Saquon.
25:27I've made no I've not been quiet about that covered him for a bit in college.
25:33He's a legitimately good dude in addition to a freak on the field and I think as I've
25:37said before this is the first good offensive line he's played with since at least high
25:42school and I can't even speak to those days at Whitehall Pennsylvania, but I know they
25:45stunk at Penn State.
25:46I know they stunk with the Giants and granted this is not just a good offensive line.
25:50It's a great one, but that's the kind of player at this stage that can kind of cement
25:55a legacy immediately like he might be tracking for the Hall of Fame might not be you win
25:58a Super Bowl.
25:59He's gone.
26:00So yes, I'm interested in seeing what Saquon does and what he looks like.
26:04I'm also curious chat if there's any kind of creative desperation on either side like,
26:09you know, we've seen this before fake punts and onside kicks probably off the table.
26:13But if the Eagles get down do they feel the need to do this is a team that very often
26:17has just gotten a lead and just run you over or do the Chiefs come in saying this is a
26:23close enough and talent gap.
26:24I think they're one and a half point favorites or something.
26:26Do we have something up our sleeve for you?
26:28Because we know Andy Reed is plenty daring spags is plenty daring Sirianni just embodies
26:32Philadelphia in a way.
26:33I don't think any coach has for a city in a really long time and effort attitude who's
26:37fighting with his own fans.
26:39Does he go?
26:40Yeah, we're going to pull one over on you.
26:42Like where does that come in?
26:43I just I just hope we get a little wrinkle here and there because I know that the standard
26:46regular plays given how good these teams are and how talented Saquon Holmes and Kelsey
26:52yada yada are going to be great on their own the standard stuff.
26:56Is there something beyond that?
26:57Like I I hope so.
26:59Yeah.
27:00Yeah.
27:01It's interesting.
27:02I don't think they called a lot of that stuff this year, you know, the perception is that
27:05both teams do it a lot.
27:08It seems like if they have wrinkles to use that they've hidden them pretty well, at least
27:13in terms of the really tricky stuff.
27:15I don't know.
27:16Do they throw a touchdown pass in tribute to Nick Foles to Jalen Hurts or you know,
27:21Sirianni seems like the kind of guy who would have been climbing a grease pole in downtown
27:25Philly after they beat the Patriots.
27:27So he he see I would not put it past him to pay homage to the last Eagle Super Bowl win
27:34in some sort of way with with a little bit of trickeration like they use in the Peterson
27:39use in that game, but I've had a hard time getting to read on this game whether it's
27:45going to be high scoring or not because a lot of respect for both defenses, but you
27:52look at Kansas City's offense kind of coming to life here later in the season and all the
27:58things that the Eagles can do just incredibly talented roster.
28:01But the questions about what hurts is gonna be able to do as a passer against Steve Spagnuolo.
28:07I have a tough time getting a read on like what the over-under would be on this game
28:12should be.
28:13So for a game, that's essentially a rematch from a few years ago, there's a lot of mystery
28:19to it.
28:20And I think I think that's kind of a pleasant surprise because when these two teams got
28:23here was like God this again and as we built up to it, it really feels like it could be
28:28a classic.
28:29I think so.
28:30I think people are sick of hearing me say that on here, but I will say this that image
28:34you put in my head of Nick Sirianni the top the grease light pole.
28:37He's not only up there and bare-chested and swinging something around over his head.
28:42He's looking at the other guys at the light poles around them being like I will stay up
28:46here longer than you.
28:47I will outlast you.
28:48I will not be the first one down.
28:50The cops may or may not have to drag him down to go back and coaches on football team.
28:53I may have been anyway.
28:55Yeah, if they win look out in New Orleans.
28:58God, I was I was longing for Bill's mafia to get the chance to descend on Vernon Street
29:02and you know what?
29:03I don't see drunk Philly fans in a very different way from the beloved very loving, you know
29:07universally cared for fan base in Buffalo, but could do similar similar damage.
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30:06So off air you were telling me you think this is going to be it for Tom Brady.
30:11Yes, I'm going I've gone out on a limb of that and print a couple of times well.
30:18You there's just a lot of little fires with this.
30:23I can't remember which player it was who visited the Raiders may have signed with the Raiders,
30:29but he said Tom Brady was the one doing everything there in terms of talking to the players
30:35negotiation whatever so he's more deeply involved than he's letting on and he did
30:41a media conference call Wednesday with sports media writers is maybe like 10 or 12 of us on
30:47the call did it for 45 minutes and he he really downplayed what his role the Raiders is Mark
30:54Davis's team limited partnership. He reiterated again again, which he said a couple of times
31:02in the last month that he plans to do this for nine more years and maybe even more than that.
31:10That's the standard line the broadcasting gig. Nobody believes that nobody believes
31:15he's doing it for 10 years. So why is he telling us he's doing it for 10 years?
31:20There's the conflict of interest stuff. There's the fact that the
31:24Chiefs are all right with him talking to their personnel this week, which kind of threw me off
31:30a little bit. Why is Clark Hunt letting him do that? I think he thinks that he's just going to
31:33be gone to the Raiders and not a broadcaster anymore after this. I don't think it's gone that
31:40well for him, you know, it's been ups and downs and we can get into that but I think I think he
31:47thought it was going to be he's put the work in for sure, but I think he thought it was going to
31:50go a bit smoother than I did and he didn't have this opportunity to be involved with the team,
31:54which clearly I think is far more fulfilling to him than being in a broadcast booth.
32:02So he is really hammering that he's going to be back. Fox is hammering that he's going to be back.
32:10They sent around these golden microphones with Tom Brady's voice if you press a button about
32:15how excited he is to be calling the Super Bowl, which is a little much.
32:18We need to hit pause for the YouTube audience. Please bring that back
32:21and can you hit play are you you literally have it looks like a I don't know. They should give
32:25those out at the Emmys or something but only for radio broadcasters. And I know families are better
32:31quality. Yeah. Well, that's very it's the shiniest gold fake or real that I've ever seen. As you
32:36hold this up, it's maybe like four or five inches tall on top of a black base like you would have
32:40most awards. There's a button. There's a button you press. It goes forever. You want to hear it?
32:46Well, 30 seconds, probably. Yeah, I mean, we got to have now I can get Tom Brady's been
32:50on past interference. I couldn't be more excited to join Kevin, Aaron and Tom to call my first
32:57Super Bowl from the Superdome. Come to think of it, the big game and I have some pretty good
33:02memories together down in New Orleans. Our team has been hard at work all season long. And it
33:06seems like just yesterday I picked up a mic from my first game. The Super Bowl is upon us and our
33:13Fox crew is ready. See you February 9th. Let's go. How about that? Go. I don't what
33:22I hope you hold on to that 40 years from now if any of us are still here. And eBay is still in
33:28use that you you get some good run out of that because I don't know what purpose that serves
33:33to set up recording of Tom Brady and this big cold mic. I'll tell you, Tom's really excited
33:39about this. We're going to hold him hostage and make him take this audio. And then he's going to
33:43go work with Pete Carroll for the next few years. That's my hunch in theory. And I like it. He also
33:52Don Yee, his agent has gone out of his way to say, oh, Tom's going to do this forever. And it just
33:57makes me think the how over the top they've been and talking about how how much Brady loves this
34:04when the evidence in front of our eyes every Sunday is that it hasn't been that great. It's
34:08been fine. He's been good at times. But no, he's not Tony Romo. He's not ever going to be Chris
34:13Collinsworth or Troy Aikman who had a fantastic year as a broadcaster because he just stopped
34:19giving a damn about anything and just said what he thought. I don't think Tom can ever get to that
34:24level. And I don't think he wants to. I think he wants to go run the Las Vegas Raiders and
34:30put together a football team because it's the closest thing he's ever going to come to
34:34fulfilling the great joy of his life, which is playing quarterback. So,
34:40you know, we'll see. He's got three hundred and seventy five million dollars, a million reasons
34:44to stay with Fox. But I see a pathway out of this. And if he's in a booth next September,
34:52I'll admit I'm wrong. But let's wait and see. So I'm with you. And I think if anything,
34:59this is a case where, you know, you can try to convince yourself of something and really,
35:03truly want to believe it. But then you get exposed to whether it's your old life,
35:06old habits or people used to be with their old job. And there is that kind of joy that you're
35:10talking about that returns to you. And in this case, Brady's case, you know, without being in
35:15the room, obviously, that would be the competitive nature of winning a coaching search, getting your
35:21guys, being part of a team, help rooting out loud for the people that you want to win,
35:25which in this case, obviously, is no longer the Patriots. It's not even the Bucs. It is the
35:29Raiders. And once you get that kind of partial attitude back in your life, as opposed to the,
35:33you know, sometimes pseudo objectivity, the staleness and the, you know, the being a broadcast
35:38booth, you're like, why would I ever want to go back? I've had these thoughts walking through
35:41tailgates to Patriots games being like, you know, today would be fun to have a beer in my hand and
35:46be in Section 210 row 36 CF, as opposed to the press box, which sounds insane to people listening
35:52and watching this. But I'm telling you, there's something to be said about the community and the
35:57emotion of it, which is not, it doesn't reach you in that space. And I'm convinced I wasn't there
36:05because now what he said, I just think he wants to get better at this, but I think there's a clear
36:10ceiling, whether it was just speaking on behalf of the Patriots and the way Bill Belichick wanted
36:14him for years and years and years, which I didn't, why I didn't think it would be successful.
36:18You were just geared to speak in this very boring, cliche way to protect the team.
36:21In this case, your team is the audience and it just hasn't connected in this kind of way. So you,
36:26the question of, did he meet your expectations or underwhelm? It sounds like, did he,
36:29did he underwhelm you or did he meet lower expectations that you had as I did in my case?
36:35I think he was about what I expected, which was very guarded and cliche written early, but you
36:43could tell he was, he was putting the work in. He was, he tried to be good at it. And he took that
36:48year off that gap year to study up on all these different broadcasters, which I think was part
36:56of the issue. He had too many voices in his ear, too many people he was trying to take something
37:02from. And so he just couldn't be himself. That's come out a little bit more recently. I thought
37:08the Bill's Rams game was that week 14, that fantastic game. He was, he was into that game
37:16and he was telling you what he saw. He, he, one of the things I really liked I've written this,
37:21but I'll reiterate it was he lit up AJ Upanessa because the Rams were just attacking him. And
37:27that's the kind of stuff he wasn't really saying, but you almost felt like he was talking about it
37:31from what he saw as a Patriots quarterback with that kind of ruthlessness. You know what I mean?
37:37Like, all right, this is the guy we're going after. He can't stop the run. He told us that,
37:43and those aren't the kind of things that he's been that great on informing us about through
37:47the season. But, you know, just going to run, going to run the Raiders. The thing we know about
37:53Tom Brady throws himself full throttle into everything. It's one of the things we know about
37:57him. One of the reasons he became the greatest quarterback in NFL history was because of that
38:01commitment. Even when nobody believed in him, he's got two things on his plate now that demand
38:08full commitment, being the number one broadcaster in the number one booth for Fox, and then his role
38:15with the Raiders, which he's trying to downplay and clearly is bigger than he's letting on.
38:20And Tom Brady is not somebody who's going to split his time. Just from what we know about him,
38:24it doesn't make sense. It doesn't check out, it doesn't register. And so you think about,
38:30you think about, you know, what's more appealing to him. Of course,
38:33that job with the Raiders is going to be more appealing. The only,
38:36the wild card that I just have to keep coming back to the, the, the, you know, the,
38:42the barrier is the salary he's getting from Fox. But I feel like there's ways around that,
38:48that they can work out. He does appearances for Fox, does some glad handings, something like that,
38:53and makes a little bit less money, but we'll see. We'll see.
38:57Well, we know he took less money to stick around here and that was for the sake of the team. You
39:00know, if he, if he makes the same comparison, granted, it's a very loose analogy that needs
39:05all of the scotch tape that you have to take less money to still be part of the Raiders.
39:09He just, he just might do it. Did you make anything of the fact that, and I'm not saying
39:14this to pit Brady versus Belichick. Clearly there are good terms. Now I've done podcasts
39:18together, hung out, said nice things. And I don't think it's all just for appearances,
39:22but the coach he picked in a coaching search, he led, led him into the warm,
39:26smiley bosom of Pete Carroll, the opposite of the coaching you for 20 years here in new England.
39:32Like that's the guy that Brady hired is anti-bill anything there. Is it just comedic? Obviously
39:37it's making me laugh. Yeah. I wonder if Marshawn Lynch, his name came up in the interview.
39:42You know what? Probably not Malcolm Butler, but Marshawn Lynch maybe might've been a good,
39:49good icebreaker with Pete, or maybe not a good icebreaker, but I think it's just a respect thing
39:54that he, he has a lot of respect for Pete Carroll's accomplishments, football knowledge,
40:00way he's still at what 73 years old is able to communicate with younger players. You know,
40:06I know he kind of got tired there in Seattle and the breakup seemed pretty inevitable by the end,
40:12not unlike how it was here with Bill, but I think it's just a guy he's respected over 20 years as an
40:19NFL player and no Seahawks teams gave, gave Brady some hard times. You remember Richard Sherman
40:25getting in his face back before we really knew who Richard Sherman was. And so I think it stems
40:32from that, that respect and interested in hiring on the market. Yeah. And I think to the advice
40:41he got from Belichick, we're being completely fair here, not just for giggles, you know,
40:44would have led him to Pete Carroll anyway. So many was a vision program experience,
40:48whatever that philosophy is, doesn't have to be the same as Brady experience in new England.
40:52Obviously you won under a different style of coaching in Tampa Bay. And that went just fine.
40:57Pete knows what he wants. He knows how to get there, what it looks like. And their hirings
41:00of chip Kelly and offense and Patrick Graham on defense. Like this is a Raiders franchise that if
41:05they're allowed to work in coaches, they are, I think has got a higher level of competency
41:10ever since they moved to Vegas, maybe even before, like that's, that's a well-run franchise.
41:13Brady's a part of it, but I think Pete was, I've come around. I don't think it's a good
41:17long-term hire, but they'll be at a higher level with the coaches they have in place now than,
41:22than I would have expected or even thought a couple of weeks ago. All right. So Brady,
41:27yeah. Yeah. I mentioned that not the Raiders. Yeah. The, uh, the thing about Brady, we also
41:33know is he plays his best when his best was needed typically a super bowl. So even if I
41:38agree with you that I think Brady has underwhelmed or just not been to the caliber of your number one
41:44color commentator on these Fox teams, I think Chad, we get the best out of him.
41:49And it's not only the experience that he's had now with a full season under his belt,
41:53cause I don't think he was good in that NFC championship game, but I think it's his ability
41:56now to finally check in and visit with teams like the chiefs that he, which he could not do.
42:00And also the fact that he might know, as you just said, Hey, this is my last game.
42:04What do I have to lose? If I get a little aggressive in my assessment or negative or
42:09this and that, I think we get the best out of Brady. What do you think we get from him on Sunday?
42:13I do too. I think there might be some nerves early. Um,
42:15probably maybe the first time Tom Brady was ever nervous in a super bowl, but, uh, yeah,
42:21he's been, he mentioned yesterday, I mentioned Wednesday that, uh, everybody's been reaching
42:27out to him saying, go have a great game, Tom, you know, Chris Collinsworth, Al Michaels,
42:32Jim Nance, you know, all these people saying, yeah, it's a super bowl, go have fun.
42:37And, uh, that probably that's great, but it's probably helping him, uh, think about the
42:43magnitude of how many people are going to be listening to him, watching him's fine.
42:48He's used to that, but listening to his words, uh, with some of the blowback he's gotten this
42:52year, um, I think he might be hesitant early. And then as the game gets going and it's
42:57anticipate a great game, he'll get into that. Um, just, uh, you know, over the course of the
43:04season, I think, uh, I think he did get better as, um, you know, as he began to recognize what
43:14people really wanted, which was, um, you know, his expertise on having been through all of this
43:19and having been in every single situation, basically that any quarterback could ever face
43:24and, um, telling us what he would do in this situation or being anecdotal about and saying,
43:29I was in a situation, this is how this worked out. Um, and I, I think he got a better,
43:34better read on that as the season went on. I also think he was overproduced early that too
43:39many people were in his ear telling him who he had to be. And, uh, you know, Tom Brady,
43:45he's going to take all that information and run it through his brain. And, um, I don't know if
43:50all, I think too much stock, too much stuck in his head and, and didn't allow him to be at ease in
43:56the broadcast booth as, as much as probably he wanted. But, um, I think he's much better at the
44:02end of the game than he is at the beginning. Come Sunday, just like I would say he was for the most
44:08part during the course of the season. Yeah, I think that's fair. I am curious to whether he
44:15acknowledges what that energy is going to be like and anticipates pregame first quarter. Okay. I
44:21don't want to be too over the top, much like when he came back, his only game is a Buccaneer in
44:24Foxborough in that first half. Do you know what I mean? It's a little bit too high. It's a little
44:28bit too hard. And whether the Patriots anticipated that or not, like, you know, that's Brady a little
44:32bit too much juice. And I've heard players and coaches in super bowls who played participated
44:37competing say they did that same thing, but then we're almost like comatose and someone had to be
44:41like, Hey, it's the super bowl. Let's go to steal a phrase. So I, I don't, I don't know exactly what
44:49to expect, but I I'm with you. I think we will get the best of Brady and the criticism I've
44:53led because I have not listened to him to be, to be frank. I listened, um, the NFC championship
44:57game, the game with, uh, in the divisional round in Detroit and some other games and refreshed
45:01with some highlights before we did this podcast is for a guy who claimed after the fifth super
45:06bowl, I finally have all the answers. Okay. I know the answers to the test. We'll share them.
45:12Tell us like the alignment and the leverage, the tiny little things that separated you.
45:16In addition to the mental fortitude that you recognize and diagnose the defenses,
45:20cut it loose. That's the stuff we want, not just the nerds, but people are going to be
45:23tuning in for their only game of the season to know this is how granular this game gets.
45:28That's why so many of us love it. Share that with us. And I think he will just,
45:32we'll take some time, whether he's too little, too low or too high, but he'll,
45:35he'll find it right. I think maybe even just second quarter,
45:38his voice might crack a few times early. It gets a little squeaky. Um, yeah, but I I've noticed as
45:44the season has gone on that he, uh, he makes, he, he does say those things almost matter of factly
45:50now where, uh, you know, he'll make a quick line on the telestrator and say, you know,
45:54it's tight ends doing this. This is what they're going to do. And
46:01you know, inevitably it's correct. Inevitably it's what happens. And I, I think he's recognized that,
46:07uh, not overdoing it with that sort of thing, but, but cluing you in exactly on what he sees
46:12before it happens is, um, you know, it's a way to get, uh, even more credibility.
46:17Now, Chad, would you be willing to wager on the voice cracking? Because this leads us into
46:21the most anticipated segment of this podcast, a long time, the Tom Brady broadcasting drinking
46:26game, which is I laid out in our shared rundown and I will do now for the folks.
46:30You and I have both brought three things. Uh, I have a fourth is backup just in case there's
46:34overlap. If you are listening and watching the super bowl, specifically when Tom Brady speaks,
46:39we are going to give you these things and assign them a number of sips. If you would like to play
46:43at home, this is not to encourage anyone to pass out or miss any of the kind of games, obviously
46:47drink responsibly. But if you want to have a little bit of fun, I'm going to study, didn't
46:50listen to him. And I've caught up. I have certain habits. It's not to make fun of Tom. It's just to
46:55say we're all doing stupid little games around the super bowl. Here's another one. So did his voice
47:00cracking make your list? I'd like to start with whatever item you started. Just the one sip,
47:04the most common thing you think we'll hear from, hear this, toss a little back.
47:09The most common thing. Uh, it did, I did not include the voice cracking, but I think that is
47:14a safe bet. Um, especially early as he gets amped up, his voice has become better over the course
47:19of the season. He's probably taking voice lessons or something. Um, uh, this, so one sip is the one
47:28we see most, most comments. Yes. Okay. I don't know how you like to party chat. If you want to
47:33do three and just get the people raring to come, maybe you do the year in Maine, the higher North
47:37you go, the better drinkers there are. This is true of anywhere place you've ever traveled or
47:41ever been. And you're farther North than I am. So you, you pick, those are just the, we have one
47:45for three sips, two sips, one sip, assign whatever frequency you want to these comments and what you
47:50think will happen. All right. We'll do the, we'll do one sip for this one, but it's something we
47:55may either hear a bunch or we won't hear it at all because he's been corrected on it. He called
48:00players studs last week, at least five times I lost count, but it was five different players
48:04were studs in that game. I'm really curious to see if he talks about any studs this week,
48:09because I feel like it's something that maybe his producer said overuse that word a little bit. And
48:13so Tom just throws it out of his lexicon completely. All right. So three sips for stud.
48:20Yeah. Three sips for stud. Okay. I've already said this phrase. I think it slips in either
48:26after a big play or right before they get from the pregame broadcast to the game, let's go.
48:34The man is no more associated with that phrase than any other that we've come to know. Maybe
48:39any person in phrase, I take that back. Uh, Caesar and you're crossing the Rubicon would
48:43probably want something, but he's not here to argue Tom Brady. If he says, let's go at home,
48:48three sips, just as if he says stud, I think that will slip in either a moment of excitement or just
48:53to sign off because look, he loves throwing touchdown passes and winning super bowls.
48:56The man loves to say, let's go. Yeah. That would have been one of mine too. That, that they're,
49:02they're trying to last game of season, obviously with this little microphone thing, closing out
49:07the audio on that with, with let's go. They're trying to make it more of a Brady catchphrase
49:12than ever. Um, my, this one's broad, I'll say two sips on this one, but it's a broad thing,
49:19not a very specific big Brady tick, but it's when he's doing the breakdown of a play and
49:27they're showing a replay and he's not giving you specifics. He's just doing play by play.
49:34So, uh, uh, Barkley runs in from four yards out. Um, they show the replay, uh,
49:43here's Hertz handing off to Barkley runs left behind the left tackle and in the end zone.
49:48Let's go. Um, then that's five sips right there. Yeah. Right. Doubling up. But, uh, he's,
49:56he falls into that habit, not every time, but sometimes where he just tells you what your eyes
50:01are seeing rather than, uh, you know, like the left tackle blowing up, uh, uh, defensive tackles,
50:07you know, trying to make the play or something like that. He just, he tells you, uh, he tells
50:11you what Kevin Burkhart told you 10 seconds before. Yeah. This is, uh, as I was watching
50:16the TNT version of the Celtics casualty game on Tuesday, grand Hill special. Oh, just splits the
50:21defense here. Gets in for a layup and the ball goes off the backboard through the net two points.
50:28Yeah. Yeah. On top of that. It's a, yeah, it's, it's a crutch. It is. It is funny to hear that
50:33because the, the sound makes you think they believe they're explaining something profound
50:39as opposed to just parody. Um, but it, but it does happen often enough. I, I, I might send
50:44you the hospital bill if I played by those rules. Cause I do think that will happen a lot.
50:49Like light beer, maybe to NA to get a certain type of buzz. I'm going to give you one word
50:53for my two sip choice. Cause he said this nine times in one quarter of the NFC championship game
51:00juice. Okay. A lot of juice for the players. A lot of juice in this game. Need a little bit
51:06more juice here to get this drive going. It's going to be plenty of juice as there always is
51:10in and around the world. Okay. I don't think this game is going to lack for juice,
51:14but Tom Brady is going to make sure that you do not lack for juice at home with the way he uses
51:19that word. I think probably, like you said, the producers probably say, Hey, can we back off the
51:23stud juice? Like just, you know, find a, find a synonym. Okay. The source is your friend as it
51:28was a mine as it is any media person, but he's, it's going to be a couple of times. Anytime you
51:33hear juice, that's two. Yeah, that's a good one. Juice. He's, you know, that makes me think he's
51:41going to have a whole new word here that he overuses that we haven't even heard yet. Um,
51:46my, my other one, I guess this is my one sip one, but let's say we see it four times. Anyway,
51:52maybe more than that is when they show those two guys in the booth at the start of the game,
51:57start of second half, uh, various other points in the game. And Brady is staring
52:03at the camera, like an alien. Who's about to dissect you. Um, that is freaky.
52:11And we're going to see that he just doesn't, he, he doesn't look casual when he's on camera yet.
52:16And, uh, you know, he's Tom Brady. So he, he's, he's a pretty familiar face and yet he's kind of
52:21aging a little bit weird. Um, so, uh, I, I think that one's going to be disconcerting for people
52:28when, when Tom Brady is staring into their soul from their television set, it just doesn't know
52:33where to put that, you know, stare anywhere. Cause on the field, that's at the pole. It's
52:38at your teammates. Like they know what's going on here at home. You're just like,
52:42hello, an alien about to dissect you, take you to a different planet. It's just a great intensity
52:47with those eyes, which reminds me, uh, I don't break my mother's heart very often chat,
52:51but the last time I did was when I informed her that her beloved Tom Brady,
52:56she waves at from home sometimes when she sees them on the TV did even when I was rooting for
53:01the team myself, since covered the team that he may may probably did have some plastic surgery
53:09that would explain how the man ages better than any other person on planet earth. No, Tom wouldn't
53:18there's a clip. It was like three years ago. You remember every single headshot for the media guy?
53:22How did we go from here in 2002 with the hair part and this and that to the most handsome man
53:26on the planet now, 10 years running. It's not by accident. He, no, no. Okay. Okay. So I don't
53:34know. I'll keep you posted on that as well as everyone who's obviously very entertained my one
53:38sip. And I think people will enjoy this one because we did it 20 times already. Any mention
53:46of Patriot Superbowls. Okay. All right. Put it right down. This could be Tom Brady playing. It
53:51could be Belichick. It could be a memory. It could be a call. It could be Mike Vrabel. If it's Mike
53:54Vrabel, actually that's a fiver. Okay. But just get any mention of a Patriot Superbowl in this
54:00broadcast and Brady reminiscing. That's that's one sip for me. What if he calls him Braves?
54:07Oh, that, uh, see, I don't, I don't know how he would come up unless they showed the clips
54:13of Brady or Brady Vrabel catching a touchdown pass, which you want to know sign of the times
54:19the Patriots tweeted today and said Vrabel anytime touchdown was cash automatic money.
54:23This is the official team account suggesting betting in the head coach and touchdowns. No,
54:27anyway, I, if he does call him Braves, we can do 10, but I just, the most, I think this is
54:32going to happen a lot and deservedly. So the man played in 10, 11 Superbowls. Um,
54:38it's just one sip. Any, any Patriots mentioned Brady back in the day, et cetera, et cetera.
54:42That's the one. So there we go. We got our Brady drinking game. How many, how many drinks do you
54:46think this is going to, uh, we'll, we'll put in beers. You think people are going to down as a
54:50result? It's a very dangerous game. I think it's very dangerous. Yeah. You know what? We'll put
54:56them over the top as a, if they take a sip for every, uh, every time he calls Kevin Burkhart KB.
55:02Oh my. That, that puts you in the emergency room. Yes. Yes, it does. All right. We'll drink
55:07responsibly. Enjoy the Superbowl. Uh, this has been a lot of fun, Chad. I think the comments
55:11will be better than when I had just started this podcast three years ago and you were very
55:15gracious to spend part of your time. Anything we should look for from you in the next coming days
55:19and weeks? Um, no, writing about Brady on Sunday. That's my assignment. And, uh, some Celtics stuff
55:25later in this week. But, uh, um, yeah, it's all Superbowl around here for the most part.
55:32Awesome. Any books. I hear you had one or two that might be out. I'm using it as a computer
55:38stand right now. Boston Globe story, the Celtics available in all fine bookstores. We had a Red
55:42Sox one a couple of years ago too. Also by that. All right. Very good. All right. Here's Chad Finn
55:46of the Boston Globe. Read him wherever you can. And sometimes watch him on a Nesson where they've
55:51got a show going on with all the Boston Globe folks and our friend, Chris Gasper. Thank you, sir.