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Mike Giardi and Will Parkinson break down their experience in Mobile, Alabama this week, as they traveled to the Senior Bowl practices. They discuss the top players from the event, and which guys fit on which teams. Plus, they highlight which position group is the strongest overall from the event.  0:00 - Intro 1:00 - Overall Senior Bowl Thoughts 1:50 - Defensive Line Standouts 16:22 - Worth Trading Back? 18:40 - PrizePicks 19:53 - Quarterbacks Evaluation 28:10 - Running Backs Evaluation 30:47 - Wide Receivers Evaluation 36:33 - Gametime 37:43 - Tight Ends Evaluation 42:36 - Offensive Line Evaluation 47:40 - Linebackers Evaluation 49:48 - Cornerbacks Evaluation 55:30 - Ben McAdoo Retained    ************************************************ Patriots Content Brought to you by.... 💰 Prize Picks - https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/CLNS Download the app today and use Code CLNS at PrizePicks.com/CLNS & Get $50 instantly when you play $5!  🎫 Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. Terms apply. What time is it? Gametime!  Merch Store - https://shop.clnsmedia.com  Social Media!!!! 🏈 Patriots Twitter- https://twitter.com/patriotsclns 🏈 Patriots Instagram-  https://www.instagram.com/patriotsclns/ 🔵 Facebook- https://facebook.com/clnsmedia 🔵 LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/company/clnsmedia/about/ 💟 Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@clnsmedia ********************************************************* 🏈 ABOUT PATRIOTS COVERAGE ON CLNS: 🏈  Welcome to the CLNS Media Network’s YouTube channel for New England Patriots 🏈 football.  CLNS Media is the leading online provider of audio/video coverage for the 6X Super Bowl Champions.  Get complete inside access to the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro and everywhere on the road. CLNS Patriots credentialed insiders Greg Bedard, Andrew Callahan, Tayler Kyles, John Zannis, Alex Barth and Mike Kadlick provide instantaneous news and analysis all in real time, as well as full access to complete videos from the players, coaches, ownership and everyone else inside Patriots Place.  If you enjoy CLNS’ Celtics 🍀 All Access and are craving more Boston sports content, you head over to CLNS’ Patriots 🏈 Press Pass at  🔴 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqX7G3pEDTseNxtoDU27PEg?sub_confirmations=1 🔴  __________________________________________________________________________ 🍀 For Celtics Content:  🔴  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1 🔴 🔴 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1 🔴 🏀 🍀 Celtics Twitter - https://twitter.com/CelticsCLNS 📸 🏀 Celtics Instagram - https://instagram.com/celticsCLNS 🔵 Twitter Main- - https://twitter.com/clnsmediaCLNS 📸 Main Instagram - https://instagram.com/clnsmedia

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00:00I don't think without any question, having done a lot of other people's podcasts, we

00:16have the nastiest intro. It's fantastic. The music, the whole thing. They did a great job.

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00:36Will Parkinson, my co-host here on All32, he's awesome as well. We were both down in

00:40Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl. We're taping this on Saturday morning at about 11

00:45o'clock. Yes, the game is later, but we saw what we needed to see and have impressions

00:51from all the positions, who stood out, who maybe didn't help themselves.

00:56I guess first things first, shout out to Jim Nagy, the Executive Director of the Senior

01:00Bowl for the number of players they got in there, the access that we have. You're walking

01:05around the field. You're a big-time guy. You're walking around the field because you happen

01:09to know this kid, Charlie Parkinson, who's an up-and-comer in the world of football.

01:14A GM one day, I think, right?

01:16That's right. Yeah, he'd be nice.

01:18I could be his right-hand man. I could be his stretch to Mike Vrabel, but just really

01:26top-notch, a lot of great players. I know some guys don't show up or guys leave early,

01:30but this is the nature of the beast. When there's that much money at stake and someone

01:34solidifies who they are, already thinks that there's no point in coming because they already

01:40know they're going very high. That's just something you have to deal with. It's unfortunate,

01:44but that's just the way of the world.

01:46What I thought we'd do, Will, is start with the one position that I think we could both

01:51agree is the best position at the Senior Bowl this year, and that's defensive line. Then

01:55from there, go position by position and pick a player that we each liked and tell you why

02:01we liked him and maybe where he fits. Obviously, as I mentioned, defensive line, unbelievable.

02:06I looked at it and said, there probably will. I don't know, 12 of those guys are getting

02:12drafted. It's that deep.

02:14Yeah, it was insane. I think there's at least three guys that are going around. One, in

02:19my opinion, Mike Green, Walter Nolan, and then Shamar Stewart. I'd be really shocked

02:25if all three. Maybe Walter Nolan falls the second round, maybe, but Shamar Stewart certainly

02:31is not. Mike Green might go in the top 10. He had that bit of a week. Obviously, he was

02:37able to do enough to leave early, so Shamar Stewart. Then obviously, unfortunately, Walter

02:42Nolan would get a hamstring maybe on day three, but generally speaking, that group

02:47was really good. I thought even some of the other guys, TJ Sanders out of South Carolina

02:54had a really nice week. There's a lot of dudes, Josiah Stewart. I think the biggest thing

03:05you take away from this defensive line group is this draft is, well, it maybe isn't the

03:12draft with six quarterbacks in the first 12 picks. Maybe it's not. I don't know if

03:19it'll be 2021 with eight All-Pro or seven All-Pro. The Jamar, Sewell, Micah draft. There's

03:2821, I think, right?

03:29I think so.

03:30Zach Wilson's, yeah. Whatever the Zach Wilson field's draft was, that draft. Everyone else

03:33in the top 12 has been an All-Pro except the quarterbacks. Maybe it's not that draft, but

03:41there's really good players in the top 10. This draft, I think players 20 through 60,

03:49it's kind of your own flavor, but there's a lot of depth of defensive lines, specifically

03:53tight end, running backs. It's a really good D-line running back and tight end class for

03:59sure.

04:00Just maybe not the quarterbacks, which I know is what we base draft classes off of, which

04:04is so annoying. There's some really good players in this draft regardless of whether it's,

04:09you know, again, you're not getting Jayden Daniels, but you might get an eight-year starter

04:14and defensive tackle that you wouldn't have gotten last year.

04:17Yeah, you mentioned those guys. Stuart is just an unbelievable athlete. Six-five, 281.

04:23He's got the go-go gadget arms. He's got the wings, the whole thing. Look, he's an interesting

04:29guy because his tape, his college tape at Texas A&M is really good, but four and a half

04:34sacks in three years. It's like that doesn't make any sense for someone that's this freaky.

04:39He actually, he's not a very good tackler, which I don't, I mean, I feel like that can

04:43be taught. I feel like, you know, like, hey dude, like you're too big, you're too strong,

04:48you're too physical to not be good at that. But he had a couple of plays in team where

04:54it blows by the LSU tackle, like he wasn't standing right there. That's the one where

04:58he stripped the ball out of the quarterback's hand, the ball's bouncing on the ground. He

05:02happened to be facing the scouts and the coaches because they're all on one side, the media's

05:07on the other, and he's beating his chest like I'm him using some colorful language

05:12like I'm not coming back for day three. Yeah, that's it. Can I walk off now? Because that

05:18should have showed you enough. And I, yeah, I think he clearly, to me, just based on traits

05:24and I think we were talking about this earlier in the week, he's not going to get to, I mean,

05:29Trayvon Walker ended up going one, but it's sort of a similar backstory where he's got

05:34everything that you want, but not necessarily the college production. He won't go one, but

05:40if he goes in the top 15, I wouldn't be surprised at all. No, me either. He's going to, I would,

05:46he's probably going to run four, four, eight, four, four, nine at like 285 at the combine.

05:51And look, I, again, you're, it's a, it'll be a risky pick. It is, right? If you take him,

06:01there's certainly some downside. There's like, it might not be special, but there's also a chance

06:07that it clicks and you're like, wow, we got a 12 sack a year guy. That's Clay's Campbell,

06:12Cam Jordan, JFM kind of guy in the league where like that bigger edge that is going to be really

06:18good against the raw and really disruptive and get eight to 10 sacks a year. And like,

06:23just really good for a decade, like not, not even clowny where a clowny is kind of up and down,

06:28but a little bit in terms of Connie's NFL production where year by year, you might have

06:33two sacks, you might have nine, but like against the run, he's amazing. And he's always near the

06:37quarterback. It's like, just did he finish that year? Um, and look, did everything clowny every

06:42year gets a one year, $15 million contract year, every year, every year. And so that's what he

06:48ends up being in the NFL. Like not a bad thing to be. Yeah. I just hope he likes football a little

06:53bit more than Jadavian clown. He does. I'm not sure. Uh, this is his number one priority. No,

06:58no, he, I, yeah, he's fine on game day. It's the, uh, it's the six days that lead up to game

07:02day that he doesn't really want to participate in. I had a couple other, um, they're not day

07:08one picks. Um, but I thought really helped themselves. Darius Alexander, the defensive

07:13tackle from Toledo Toledo, of course, produced Quinion Mitchell last year as a first round pick.

07:19So just, you know, there's good football players there. Just, you don't, don't look at Toledo and

07:22say, oh, I can't do it. Um, he's a day two guy, in my opinion, I think he really like hammered

07:28that home. He's someone that I think he can play some on the edge at 300 pounds, but I think he,

07:34you know, he's a defensive tackle by trade and I think his quickness and his length inside.

07:38And I think we saw it this week. He was too quick for some guards and it was, his motor was awesome

07:44this week too. Just like constantly going, constantly going. I thought he really stood out.

07:48Um, and as someone that like, I don't know, I look at a place like, and we don't know exactly

07:54what the new Patriots regime, how they're going to sort of look at their defense and if they're

08:00going to follow a similar path as, as build it. And obviously Vrabel, you know, had some of the

08:04bill stuff in him. Uh, but he was one of those guys that like bounce them around a little bit.

08:10He could be a guy. Um, I also wanted to bring up and where I, I wrote a little wrote him up today

08:16for Boston sports journal, Tim Smith, defensive tackle, Alabama, not a path pressure, probably a

08:22day three guy, not even probably he's a day three guy, but you know what? Run stuffer, plug a gap,

08:29that guy will do it. And there is a lot of value in having players like that, you know? Uh, and

08:33this is to my point about how deep the draft is. Like he could start for some teams, you know,

08:39he'll come off field on third down obvious passing situations, but he could start and he could start

08:44in year one. And that's, that's pretty impressive and sort of speaks to the, the overall depth of

08:49it. And I'll, I'll just give you one more that I wanted to talk about an edge guy who I thought did

08:53awesome work. And he was actually named, they have a new award at the senior bowl where it's

08:57like the best teammate. Um, I want to make sure I get the, it's Femi Aladejo from UCLA and his

09:06story is awesome in terms of his football story. He was a Mike linebacker at UCLA and this past

09:12year they put him at edge and six, two ish, 261 pounds. So it's not like he doesn't have these

09:19overwhelming traits out there. Just a good football player. You give him a little bit daylight,

09:24he takes it. And he also, and I think this is one of the reasons why he, he won this award.

09:31Like he was leading guys. He was somebody play. He's coming off the sidelines when he's off the

09:36field and he's giving them the chest bump or I five, like he was bringing energy. And when you

09:40think about all the dogs and the alphas that are on the defensive line and this guy turned out to

09:44be maybe the alpha of the alphas, even though again, not the most talented of the bunch.

09:50I just think that speaks volumes to who he can be in the league. And I think just because he's

09:54only played edge for a year or two, like to me, there's room for improvement there. He's not

09:59going to be a 12 sack guy. That's not who he's going to be, but I think he is a, he's probably

10:04a starter and a, and a good piece on your team for health. If he, if he stays healthy for a good

10:09long time. Yeah. I liked him a lot. I, uh, he was like a, he's built like an old school, um,

10:17Ray Lewis type of like middle linebacker from the early two thousands at playing,

10:21you know, playing at two 50 to 60 taller, you know, run stuff or Kyber guy and like

10:27moved to edge and was really productive at edge and, and showed a lot and, you know,

10:30showed enough that he's a guy who after one year of playing at edge is going to be drafted as an

10:35edge. So, um, yeah, I thought he had a really nice week and I thought there's just this group

10:44as a defensive line group, even when it was a shame not to see an Alfred Collins, some guys

10:49like that, um, you know, bail at the last second, some bad agent advice, I would say, generally

10:55speaking, um, this group's really good. And I, a lot of these guys are going to play on Sundays

11:01for a very long time. Yeah. Uh, and last, I just wanted to mention, you mentioned green and

11:08he was a first round guy coming in and he had the two days. And of course you've,

11:13you've, you've probably seen the rep by now where he goes right through Josh Connelly's chest.

11:17Um, and I really didn't win the next rep. I just want to, he did he absolutely. And we're going

11:22to talk about talks about the next rep. Nope. We're going to talk about Connelly or at least

11:25what I'm going to talk about Connelly when we get there, um, when we start going through positions,

11:30but I think I heard Dane Brugler say, like, would you be totally shocked? And you said it,

11:37if he ends up as a top 10 pick. And I think with the edge that he plays and his flexibility and

11:42like, I don't know, like that's, that might've been crazy before we started the week, but now

11:48that you see it up close and personal, not so crazy anymore. No, not so crazy anymore either.

11:52And there's a group of a few guys in this class, in my opinion, who are

12:01like, if you just go best football players, like, I don't know, most people, I'm sure Mike

12:04green somewhere between edge two and edge four, I would assume at this point behind Carter.

12:09Yep. Um, I think it depends where you have Jalen Walker in terms of what do you think he is? Is

12:13he a linebacker? Is he an edge? Is he like, who, who is he? Um, but Mike green is like a true edge

12:21of this. That's what he is. Like, it's not like Jalen Walker's a little more like Micah in terms

12:26of like, you kind of, it was like more of a college linebacker and like, you're kind of

12:30more projecting him to play edge. And obviously Mike is a special athlete. It looks like Abdul

12:33Carter in a lot of ways, the way they play, but, um, green is green is really impressive this week

12:40and tapes really good. And again, it's the stigma of the small school guy, you know, getting,

12:46getting air. And it's like, did he, can he figure it out? Can I, am I crazy? And I, I,

12:52I just looked up the measurables. I have a weird comp for Mike green. So I'm curious. Okay. I was

12:57going to ask you, did, does he remind you at all? Bryce Huff? Yeah, but you know what he reminds me

13:02of as well? And I just got, he looks a lot like Jermaine the way he's like stature. Okay. I don't

13:07know if it's the same, like they have literally the exact same equipment on same number, like

13:12same build in terms of like height, weight measurables. He plays a little more like Bryce

13:16Huff than, than Jermaine, but like he has the body type Jermaine does where it's like

13:21six, two, two 40 somewhere in that two 50 range. And it's like, yeah, it's kind of a combo of those

13:28two guys, which is a 10 sack a year guy. So you'll take that all day long. I was going to say, uh,

13:34if they walk to the podium, the New York jets walk to the podium, the seventh pick, and they

13:41say Mike Green's name, how's we'll feel. Um, I'm, I'm fine with it. I think it's a, I think they

13:48need edge help. Like I think they have Wilmington's a 10 sack a year guy, but I think you'd prefer to

13:53have him play 45% of the reps, not 65. And I hope Jermaine's every bit the player he was two years

14:01ago. Uh, but the first year back, I have no idea what he's going to be. There'll be flying long

14:09term, I'm sure. But first year back, it's always a struggle. So that's out of that. They have

14:13nobody at edge now, you know, you went from having too much to be like, I've, I've made no bones

14:22about it. I'd rather than take a guy like Jalen Walker, just because I think he can play different

14:25positions. And I think CJ Mosley is probably going to be gone. Uh, Quincy Lynn has got a year left.

14:30Sherwood's a free agent. You can convince me you can just put you in Walker linebacker and be like,

14:34Hey, I'm in Quincy. You're just going to kill people for a year. And like, then we'll figure

14:37it out from there. Um, and it's like, Hey, or Hey, we want to make him an edge. And like, he's

14:42got the body type. He could play all three down. So if you told me it's one of those two guys

14:48in a bigger conversation, but for the jets, and I think this is a Patriots,

14:52there's like a group of four or five guys. And it's like, outside of that, you'd be like,

14:57like, what are you doing for the jets? I think it's one of the couple of edge guys I mentioned

15:01it's Mason Graham. It's Ted. It's maybe it's Will Johnson. It's, it's like whoever's there.

15:08And you take the best guy on your board. Same thing with the Patriots. It's like

15:11Hunter and Mason Graham. And one of the, if you feel like any of those guys are tackles,

15:15which I don't personally, but if you do, or, uh, yeah, it's just, it's, it'll be interesting.

15:21It's gonna be interesting. These teams, like what happens in the top three is going to,

15:25I know it's a stupid comment, but like whatever happens with how three is going to drastically

15:29change four or five, six, seven. And of course, Liam Cohen, by the way, I meant to ask you this

15:33before we get into these positions, you pull a drop Mayo this morning or last night. So what

15:37are you expecting in the draft? He's like, we're gonna play good defense, but all it's about is

15:41scoring points. And they're like, I asked him, he wants to take, it's like, dude, just shut up.

15:47It's not been a great, it's not been a great week for him.

15:50No, it's more also that like the, the spot they're in, um, you know, do we see Mason Graham or,

15:58I don't know, maybe Travis Hunter like fall because the Jags don't go defense and they go

16:02offense and the Patriots go with, I don't know, maybe the Patriots go offensive line or something

16:08unforeseen. All of a sudden it's like, well, what about Bill Carter and, uh, or Travis Hunter's

16:13available at six now, you know, it's the, or one of these quarterbacks is falling. Like

16:18it's a weird pivot point in the draft that early. Yeah, I, I agree. It's funny. I, you,

16:22you're mentioning sort of the cluster of players that, you know, if you're a Patriots or Jets or

16:28one of those teams, it's like, I keep hearing a lot about trading back and I'm going to just put

16:34this out there. If I'm the Patriots, I'm not trading. If I'm trading back, I'm not trading

16:39too far back. Like from four to six, from four to seven, I don't know that they would trade

16:46getting in a non quarterback pick there. Right? Exactly. It's like, oh, get more picks. And I

16:51get the, I understand the idea of like, you know, need some more dark throws because your roster

16:55stinks, but don't go so far back that all of a sudden you miss out on the a minus player,

17:04the B plus player, and you end up with the B player, the B minus player. And yeah, he's a

17:09good player for eight years or whatever, but like, he's not someone that can change who you are and

17:16change the ceiling of what your team is. They're desperate for blue chippers. I'll say it again,

17:21Christian Gonzalez, I guess we can call him a blue chipper now, right? Like

17:25he's 20 games into his career. Cause he basically missed most of his rookie season, but like

17:29he is legit. Drake may has a chance to be a blue chip player, right? Absolutely. Christian Barmore

17:36was tending to be a blue chip player. And now people are talking about like, well,

17:40they're defensive line. If they get this and they do this and they bar more back.

17:43Like if the big question is if, and I have no inside information on Christian Barmore and what

17:48he's tracking for health wise, but what, this is what we know. He had blood clots. He came back.

17:54He had a recurrence. That's scary. His life is more important than football. I don't know how

18:00anyone can sit here and predict that Christian Barmore is going to be back or that you can

18:06count on him definitively going forward based on the condition. Everybody hopes that's the case.

18:11He loves football. I want to see him out there. Everybody wants to see him out there. The guy,

18:16that's what he loves to do. You want him out there, but I don't know. So you can't,

18:19you can't tell me definitively. That's what it is. And so, okay,

18:23well then how far do you go back? Cause there aren't many blue chippers in the draft.

18:28And sometimes it's just like, dude, don't be stupid. Just take the best

18:33goddamn player and move on. You'll figure it out later.

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18:53free square. Patrick Mahomes throws for more than a half a yard in the duper bowl and you win one

19:00square. So all you got to do is match it with one other guy. That's unbelievable. You know,

19:05it's going to happen. Okay. So I don't know. You look at the game and you say,

19:09Saquon Barkley is going to rush for more than 112 and a half yards or Jalen hurts. He's going to

19:13pass for more than 215 and a half yards. How about Travis Kelsey coming off that? You know,

19:19nonsensical game. They were barely a factor. 62 and a half receiving yards. Xavier worthy

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19:53positional groups. And I'm telling you, we'll just go down the order. Although I think, I don't know,

20:00maybe, well, we'll get to it. Let's start at quarterback. And you talked about this is not

20:05Jim Nagy said it like there's, there were six guys last year in the first 12. This isn't that

20:11you could clearly make the argument that there, there should only be one first round quarterback.

20:16There'll be at least two, but there should only be one. None of those guys were at the senior bowl.

20:23I thought I was really looking for Jackson Dart to elevate. I thought he had a chance to be the

20:28third of the quarterbacks. And I'm talking Cam Ward, then Sridhar Standers, and then who's the

20:34next guy. I didn't think he was awesome this week. Not bad. Just not, not great.

20:41Cause we're going to have to spend, we're going to go through these quicker, but

20:44where is this? It feels like the hype train around Dart yesterday took a, I mean, I'm like

20:52exponential leap to the point where like, Hey, maybe he goes from the top, like my mentions

20:57or like the jet should need to take him at seven. Sure. Is he going to go in the top 10,

21:02you know, just new Orleans take him. Like it's, he's definitely around one process.

21:08I don't, I just, I guess I'm confused because I don't think he hurt himself this week,

21:12but I also don't think until day three, he like stood out as like five snaps on Tuesday.

21:18He literally cannot like, and look, this is part of the transition, right? Where

21:22his offense was run out of gun, but how many times did he and Milro did the ball end up on

21:28the ground? Cause they can't take center snaps and like, look, I, I guess it's an acquired skill,

21:36but they've had several weeks to prepare, to deal with under center stuff. And just,

21:41it wasn't great. I don't look, I, like you said, I don't think he hurt himself,

21:45but he did nothing to cement himself as the number three quarterback in this draft,

21:49nor did he do anything to say that he's a first round pick. I mean, I look, these guys always get

21:55overdrafted. We, we do this every year, but to me, he's like a third or fourth round guy.

22:03And that's like, that's beyond the quarterback boost that you normally get. That's beyond the

22:09bone Knicks. Maybe should be late first or early second going 12th, you know, even last year either.

22:17And everyone thought he was great. Maybe I'm, maybe I just suck at evaluating quarterbacks.

22:21I don't know. I, if you told me someone trades in the back half, the last couple of picks around one

22:27and does the stash, you know, I don't know. I'm trying to think of a team that makes the most

22:31sense for maybe it's, I use the new Orleans example, but one of those teams that like,

22:38shit, even the jets may, maybe even like, they're like, Hey, we're going to trade up

22:43to 31 from if Rogers is going to have been coming back or to trip to 31 from 42.

22:48And we're going to do the Jordan love thing. And like, he's going to sit for sure. Like you could

22:52talk me into that. I think there's a couple of like, I think that's always a smart thing,

22:55I think for teams to buy that fifth year option. And again, I understand the concept of it.

23:03I just think he's around two to four guy, depending on your appetite for who he is.

23:07And he's a, he's fine. He's a good player. He probably could be a starter in the league,

23:11but to me, he gives me a lot more Gino Smith when he came out with the jets vibes where like,

23:16if the situation's good, yeah, you can be a successful player for sure. But if it's not,

23:21he's not overcoming it on his own. And yeah, I don't know. There's a little maturity there.

23:26It feels like too, which I'm a little, I'll give you what sort of bothered. Isn't the right word,

23:32but something that I noticed this week, and I'm going to have to go back now and look at

23:36some of his tape, uh, just to see if what I saw kind of just confirmed on tape,

23:42he doesn't seem to want to throw guys open. It's like, if it's not.

23:47Get a Ramis square peg through a round hole. Yeah. I did. And I don't, you know, like look

23:52too many of these quarterbacks, like because of the offenses, they run, then we come in. That's

23:55not something that they're comfortable with. And as we know in this league, the windows are a lot

24:00tighter and you have to like, if that guy's got like a half a step quarter of a step that's open

24:05in the league. And I don't know that he's willing or ready to do that. So I'm just going to say,

24:09as we do all that, I thought Tyler Shuck actually was the best quarterback.

24:13Me too. Tyler Shuck's a seventh year senior. He went to three different colleges. He finished

24:18at Louisville. He's 25 years old, but he's got a live arm. He's obviously got a lot of experience.

24:24He's had some injury issues. Um, he's made a glass and he's 30 years old, but other than that,

24:29yeah. So like, but I think that sort of tells you like, to me, I'm not even,

24:32I'm not even talking about Melrose. No, for sure. I mean, oh yeah. Yeah. And like you saw some of

24:37the, like the off platform stuff they do. He, he, I thought he helped himself, but we're talking

24:43about a day three guy. Like that's, that's, I think I'm, I'm at the point now as quarterbacks

24:49where I didn't want them to be like 20 years old, basically barely played at all. The Anthony

24:56Richard, not, he's not the good example for it. Right. I know what you mean. It's just in type

25:00where it's like, I'm just betting on a zillion traits and like almost the unpredictability of

25:06what it could be. And you hope that you hit, or it's like, this guy started 75 games and like,

25:13this is who they are. Like, this is what it is. Like, I just think that at this point, like

25:19you almost kind of have to go with full, like, I'm going to teach you how to play quarterback.

25:23And like, you're basically going to use all this stuff and you're gonna get an offense for two

25:27years. You're going to sit for a year, maybe even two. And like, you're not playing. So like,

25:32you're going to, I'm going to mold you into the quarterback I want, or like, Hey, this is who you

25:38are. And you're probably not going to get that much better. Maybe it's the bone next 10% better,

25:43but like, I think I can, I can work with that. You know, it's like, I'm the Dak Prescott,

25:48Brock Purdy, like that type of, cause I don't know, like you it's darts, like the classic case

25:55of like play to a lot of football, but not quite as much maybe as those guys, but you're kind of

25:59still like, Ooh, there's like this upside there. And you get your, you finally start to get yourself

26:02enamored with it. Um, I thought all the quarterbacks had moments that were nice this

26:08week, but also had moments that were like, you saw the limitations, like Millrow can't his tiny

26:13hands. He can't go into center and anything under 15 yards, he throws as hard as he possibly can.

26:18Yeah. He had the nicest throw the entire week. He did on a corner out that I was like,

26:23wow, that's the nicest, I think the next door I've ever seen you make.

26:26And it's like, wow, this guy's an elite athlete and he's a high character guy. And

26:30you want to bet on that or like Riley Leonard doesn't have a huge arm, but like,

26:34is obviously like tier one, like leadership, you know, mentality guy. And there's a great

26:40runner of the football and like is accurate, uh, got way better accuracy wise. So you want

26:45to bet on, you know, you want to, he's a great kid. You want to bet on them. And like Gabriel,

26:49the same thing. I mean, I mean, you must've said it 12 times to each other this week and we can

26:52move off the quarterbacks, but if Dylan Gabriel is six, four, being number one pick in the draft,

26:57he is so accurate. The arms way better than I thought in person. Um, he moves well. He won

27:03really bad interception, but other than that, like generally he's a good athlete, high character,

27:08like all, everything you want in a quarterback, I would bet you a hundred bucks. He's a dolphin

27:13in round six. Like, yeah, like he should be like, that's the landing spot for him.

27:20Timing offense, all this stuff, like kind of mitigate your height, but he's barely five, 10

27:27and he can't see, like, I don't, I'm not, I'm not trying to be a dick and like a height.

27:33Dude, it's fair. It's like, yes, we're just, we said it a million times. You and I were like,

27:38man, if he only, but he's not. And it's like,

27:41it's so good. Like he made a throw. Mike, I think it was either either a corner route. It was like

27:47a deep 18 yard out and safety and corner trying to both come down. And like, I was like, Whoa,

27:55that's like a really nice level throwing. I didn't know that was in his bag. Like,

27:58yep. But it's just, he, again, he's not, he's tiny. Struggled a little bit with the wind on

28:05Thursday. It was a little breezy on Thursday. So that's like, that's just the thing. Um,

28:08let's move to running back. Who you got? Who stood out to you?

28:12A bunch of guys, but I'll stick with one because we want to go quickly here.

28:17I debated between two guys and I'll only go with, I debated with Trevor Etienne and RJ Harvey.

28:23I'll go RJ Harvey. Um, his missed tackle rate in college was like obscene. Like he's

28:29extremely productive. He's built like Doug Martin. If you remember him, uh, like five,

28:35nine, five, nine and a half Ray Rice, Doug Martin build like shorter to 20, like really thick,

28:41lower body, like makes guys miss. He was really good in password. Caught the ball. Well, I thought

28:46he was really impressive in a guy that on day three, probably you're looking at maybe, I don't

28:50know, around four or five range. This class is really good at running back. So like maybe it's

28:55not, maybe it's not so later, but I'm trying to think of the, maybe it's not the James Blunt

29:02rat like that. You know, the, that, like those guys that are those Patriot teams, like

29:07where Brady always had the guys, like, he's going to catch 40 balls a year. You can run

29:10them between the tackles. If you need to really get in past pro dependable, make a guy miss James

29:15white type. Um, I said James Blunt and that, but like, um, yeah, but it's like, no, that's,

29:25he was just really impressive. And again, Trevor Etienne, I just, the one thing about him is I

29:28thought he was, I was a little disappointed. I felt like all year with him. I just didn't feel

29:33like he was like quite as good as I wanted him to be. And I thought he was really good this weekend

29:38or this week. So, um, I was happy for him because he's a guy that again, big name Georgia, like the

29:44whole thing. And he actually looked like the guy I was kind of hoping for, for the last two years.

29:48Yeah. His foot, his foot work. He's, he's very smooth and explosive and it's kind of an easy

29:52explosion. Uh, I'm going to give you one and I sort of did this with a Patriots bent because

29:58they haven't, they haven't had this guy in a little while. Uh, and it's the Quinn Allen,

30:03the running back from Syracuse, six feet. I would have been my other guy. He'd have all

30:06207 pounds. And I, and I say this about why he might fit in this offense in the Josh McDaniel

30:13system is really good catcher of the football, like easy. Like he looks like a wide receiver

30:18catching the football. It's very natural to him. And the pats have not had a, um, I mean,

30:23their third down backs, Antonio Gibson barely did it this year. They, two years ago it was

30:28Ezekiel Elliott became their third down back, essentially like, um, they've missed that guy.

30:34And it's been a part of Josh's offense for a long time. You know, let's talk about maybe someone in

30:39free agency, like Amir Abdullah, who we coached in, in Vegas. But like, if they wanted to go the

30:43younger route to me, the Quinn Allen makes a lot of sense. Um, let's go to wide receiver.

30:50It's again, we talk about quarterback. This is not the wide receiver class where it's the Malik

30:55neighbors, the Jamar chases, the Justin Jefferson's Marvin Harrison. June that's, this is not that

31:01these are, I don't think there's a, is there a first round wide receiver that was there today?

31:07No, no, not down at the sea, but I'm just saying in general,

31:10Ted, Ted, and then it'd be Hunter. If, if Hunter's a receiver, um, I'm I'll go first here.

31:19And again, no one really blew me away. Jalen Noel, uh, the little slot guy from Iowa state.

31:26He's not even the, the, the bigger name. Jaden Higgins is the bigger named. Um, but I thought,

31:32I thought Jalen Noel, he's so quick. I think he's a really good route. Werner showed. I thought he

31:39showed good balance, like good footwork. And to me, one of the interesting things about him.

31:44And I immediately after Wednesday's practice, I went back and like called some of his stuff up

31:49from the season. Cause I want to, again, to confirm what my eyes are telling me,

31:54he catches and turns up field. Like it's one motion. And like, that's how you see like the

32:00yard after catch potential. And again, this is maybe more from a Patriot bent or someone who

32:04uses the smaller slot, which has kind of gone out of favor recently. Um, but he's someone I could

32:11see like, Oh, he's sort of that little pinball machine in this, in the slot catching 75, 85

32:17passes a year, uh, in the right system. Um, you know, again, physically he's under five, 10,

32:23you know, he's not, he's not a big kid, but a little bit more thickness to him than say someone

32:27like pop Douglas has for the Patriots. Uh, I'll go Jack bash. Um, obviously the story's incredible

32:33and horrible at the same time and the whole thing, but I'm not just for people who don't know is

32:40his brother, uh, who played at Princeton was, uh, one of the victims in new Orleans when the, uh,

32:47the terrorist ran through with the truck. So, uh, pretty, pretty brutal. Yes. Horrible. Obviously.

32:54And then he is, I'm not saying he's puking NACA, but there's a lot of similar similarities

33:02is bigger body, long arms, thicker receiver play inside and outside good hands,

33:09reckless abandoned with the football and like faster than you realize, but like, they're not

33:13going to run Jack. Jack will probably run. I don't know if I had to guess. I test was a running four,

33:18five, eight, something like that, which is fine. And I think it's like two 30 or whatever it is.

33:23Like he's a big dude. Uh, but inside he ran some routes in the slot. He ran some routes outside.

33:30I thought he was just everywhere. And like, I don't know. I, I personally think he's a guy

33:34that's a good day to pick. And I think he's probably earlier on day two that people want to

33:38realize. Um, and again, I just think there's the toughness loves ball, like loves contact,

33:45like he's a guy that like he comes in and his ceiling's probably a two, right? Like,

33:50I don't think he's ever going to be a one, but from like a jets, it's not the same size,

33:55but like Jericho is this guy like inside, outside 75 catches 800 yards and six touchdowns a year.

34:02And like tough as nails third down, you know, you're going with the football, like that

34:07just, uh, maybe puka is obviously a special player and, and, you know, he's obviously in a

34:12great system for it, but like bash blocks really well. There was just everything about it. Like,

34:16he's not bad at anything, you know, like weakness to me. I don't know if the ranks are as high, but.

34:21Yeah, I think so. I was talking to a scout who was like, look, you look at him and at the very

34:28least his rookie year, he's coming in and he's a four 40. He's the number four, but like there's

34:33more there. And if he's in the right system, particularly as you mentioned, sort of the

34:37West coast offense, and maybe being a power slot in the West coast offense, that could he be a

34:43three or two in the right situation? Could some of the things that you're talking about with puka,

34:48the, the physicality and just sort of like, he'll run through you. He'll block you until you're,

34:52you know, you're on your ass and he'll go find the next guy after he knocked that one guy over.

34:57Like, yeah, I could totally see that happening. Uh, I hope for his sake that he runs in the low

35:02four fives. I think that would make a huge difference. Cause the one thing I did notice

35:07yeah. One of the things I did notice about him is that he, he, he got over the top of some people.

35:13Like he looked, he looked a little faster than maybe he might time. I don't, you know, like,

35:20you just mentioned, um, you mentioned the small guys and Tez Walker Johnson, sorry,

35:24Tez Walker from, uh, from Oregon. Um, look, he's made for these type of events.

35:30One-on-ones are his thing. Um, he was really awesome and he's a really fun player. Um,

35:36he's 156 pounds and he's not really getting it much bigger and he gets the one 60. Um,

35:42so people are going to fall in love with him. I'm sure you're going to get people

35:45in your mental. They got to drop just a lot to, to out. Well, um, maybe he's more tank Dell and

35:53maybe he can be a little bit more of like a factor in different things, but it's not tank's fault.

35:58Uh, but it's back to back years now where, while he's productive, I mean, he gets really badly

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36:08It's not to be whatever it's, it's part of why it's fat because you see it and then you see what

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37:41guaranteed. Let's move to my second favorite position in the draft. And that is tight end.

37:51So there are a lot of good ones. There are two, the two best ones weren't there. Um,

37:57Warren from Penn state who is now getting top 10 buzz. And I think that's fair. I think he's,

38:03he's kind of nasty. Um, Loveland Colston Loveland from Michigan, who's going to be a first round

38:09pick, but, and there are a couple of guys in, in mobile, Mason Taylor, um, Arroyo from Miami,

38:18who are starting to get that buzz as well as maybe potential late first round, early second round

38:23guys. I think it's fair. I think both more did it, but I'm going to give you, um, well, you know,

38:30I've been yapping. You go, you go first and then I'll give you my guy. I have a feeling I'm going

38:33to, so we're doing one standout and this is going to be a guy that's probably going to go in the

38:39sixth round. Jackson Hawes is a absolute dog. Uh, any team needs a Jackson Hawes. Um, he's probably

38:49going to have a similar role to a, almost a huge check record type where like almost a fullback

39:01and can play why I could play F, but like really it's just kind of like an extra offensive lineman

39:05that can catch. Um, someone that's in the scouting community told me he's the best run blocker in the

39:11class of anybody. I'm talking no line or tight end. It doesn't matter. And got good hands. It's

39:20not, he's just your classic, like six, four, two 60, like blocking tight end that likes him to

39:26catch 10 to 15 balls a year, maybe 10 to maybe 30 in the right system. Maybe it's seven. Um,

39:33but like that dude is an absolute competitor. Like there's a million guys we could talk about

39:38and deciding class. He's really good. As you mentioned, I will say Tyler Warren. Um, I think

39:44once, if he tests, I think it, a buzz will cool off more into being like a guy in the teams,

39:48the twenties, just cause he's a better football player than he has tested. Like he brought

39:53Bowers fell to whatever 15 or whatever it was like Bowers is like, what's the best player in the sec

39:58for like three years. Um, and just because he's like one stupid picture with Gronk, everyone

40:02assumed he was a bad player. Um, how was I just, the reason I want to shut him out is just because

40:08again, he's a guy that no one's going to talk about going up to the draft. He'll be, he'll be a

40:12day three pick late day three. And I wasn't talking about during camp, but like, you're going to get

40:17to the end of the year and be like, this guy was PFF grade was 88. And you know, he had 17 pancakes

40:24in that week, 12 game against the Jaguars. And you're like, what's going on here. And like their

40:28run game so much better. What changed? Like he changed. So I would say like, he's just a guy

40:36that I thought showed he could catch this week, which I was important to me, but I'm not drafting

40:41him to cat. I'm drafting him and be like, Hey, we, we want that option to throw you the ball and be,

40:47you know, maybe it goes to the bears or goes to, you know, Ben Johnson type that uses, you know,

40:51multiple tight ends and does these different things. But I'll tell you what, whoever drafts

40:56him, the running game is going to be significantly better next year. My guy, Nebraska's Thomas

41:01Fedone mixed. You know, I talked to different guys and they're like, look, he's, he's, he's

41:07making the league. He's, he's a good player. He's making the league. I don't know whether he is a,

41:11you know, fourth round pick or a seventh round pick depends on who you talk to. Nebraska's

41:18offense didn't star him. And, and then quite frankly, Nebraska's offense wasn't very good.

41:22At least that's the, I only saw one game of them on tape. But in talking to people, it's like,

41:27it's just even with Rayola's quarterback, they just, it wasn't, it wasn't what it needed to be

41:33or it wasn't what it's going to be as a kid develops. Yeah. Um, this kid, uh, I described

41:39him on Tuesday as he looks the way he runs. It looks like he's being, he's getting electrical

41:44shots, shocks in each leg at different times. It's an odd running style, but he's, but he's,

41:52he runs well and he catches the ball really well, but hands away from the body at all times.

41:58Made a couple of really nice contested catches, um, competitive in the blocking realm. He's a

42:03former actually read today. It was a five star. I had read earlier. He was a four star and he

42:08had torn ACLs this freshman year and then his redshirt freshman year. Um, but it was on the

42:14John Mackey watch list for best tight end going into the season. Again, like I said, their offense

42:18wasn't awesome. So he caught 35 passes, but I thought he, I thought he showed you who he is.

42:24And I just think he's a, he's going to be a useful player for somebody. So again, not,

42:29I'm not talking about the high end guy. Just kind of fell in love with the player,

42:32the effort, the attitude. And I really liked the hands that he showed. Let's go to offensive line,

42:37which, um, unfortunately for those guys, the defensive line group was the best group.

42:43And when you do one on ones, uh, at is definitely slanted for the defensive line

42:47in the defensive lines favor. Uh, who did you have as the, as the one guy that sort of jumped out to

42:52you? Oh, you're on mute. What a disastrous to raise able, uh, North Dakota state. Um,

43:03not sure he lost a rep all week. And if he didn't, it was barely, um,

43:09guard center could argue. He was a tackle by trade and moves like a tackle. Do I think he'll

43:15be a tackle on term? I think there's a chance he could play right tackle. Um, I think we've

43:19seen guys with short arms figure it out. Uh, you know, a tackle, if you can move the way he moves,

43:25does he look like Tyron Smith? No, he does not look like a guy sculpted in a museum

43:32kind of looks the opposite. Uh, and you kind of almost underrate it. You're like, Oh,

43:37all right, this guy versus speed. Like, is he gonna be able to figure it out? I'm like,

43:40he moves really well. And I think he was named offensive lineman of the week and the whole thing.

43:46Um, he's going to go in the top 50, in my opinion, and maybe it gets higher than that

43:52because it's offensive line. And like anyone could use it from the Patriots sitting there

43:56and 30, whatever they have 35, 36. Yeah. I'm 30, 38. I'm, I'm, I'm seriously contemplating

44:05saying is he our future center when David Andrews hangs it up? Uh, is he just going to plug and

44:10play? He'll be our starting center for the next decade. Like that's, I don't know that he gets

44:14past 50. And frankly, like, I guess if on the Patriots or one of these teams, like I want to

44:20try to rebuild my offensive line in one off season, I don't know. You sign two guys, you draft

44:25him and maybe one other guy. And it's like, all right, now we're onto something. He just was

44:29really impressive to me. I thought his lateral quickness was good. Tough is tough as nails and

44:35North Dakota state. These guys come to the league and they're always able to play right away.

44:39Yeah, I love them. I could easily make that my answer. Uh, I think there is an outside shot that

44:46he ends up at the back end of the first round. You can see like a good team. He's like, oh,

44:50you're good. We don't have these pressing needs and like, oh, but you know, we could use like,

44:54would it shock you if say Kansas city lost Trey Smith and free agency. And they just said, you

44:59know what guy would plug them right in and let's just keep going like that. Just, it wouldn't

45:05shock me, but I'm going to go Josh Connolly, who we mentioned earlier, who got, uh, you know,

45:10run over by, by, uh, Mike green. But I don't, I don't want to say that he, I don't think he,

45:19I thought it was a good level performance from him this week. Like not outstanding,

45:23didn't like jump off, but also like you watched him and really competitive and,

45:28you know, aside from that one rep. And as you mentioned the very next rep that he had with

45:32green, he won the rep. So it was like, that's what you want to see.

45:37I'll just say like the one thing that's, this is why you put stock in the one-on-ones,

45:41but you also have a, you, it's like with a grain of salt, you want to see a guy that's

45:46have moved through that. What's their bag look like? How do they adjust? How are they able to

45:50like, you know, kind of post that as an offensive lineman, as a defensive lineman, can they do

45:54different things? Is it, you know, are they really wanting it, whatever, all as good as

45:59Mike green's rep was kind of took himself out of the play. Shemar Stewart did the same thing.

46:05And I'm real in a real game. Like, cool. You ran the guy over, you ran yourself into the ground.

46:09And if I'm an offensive lineman, you can run me over all day. If you're not going to hit my

46:12quarterback, I just, I just always wish everyone can like understand that.

46:22You know, better than anybody. It's now that social media world where that gets clipped

46:27and it gets replayed at 2 million times. And you know, the guy who first posted it is like

46:31doing a dance cause you know, his thing went viral. Um, there's more to it than that clearly.

46:38And I just thought the Connerly was good, solid all week. And the one thing in talking to people

46:43this week about him, because I came in kind of interested in him, uh, you know, as a possible,

46:49like, is he, you know, is he a left tackle? Like, is he, or is he, as some people suggest,

46:53does he belong inside? And a lot of people told me they still feel like he's growing into his body

46:58a little bit. And so when you have these really good feet, but maybe you're still 10 pounds away

47:05from where you're going to max out and be able to play and still have those feet, then yeah,

47:10he can be a tackle and he can be a left tackle. So that's to me again, with some of the needs,

47:15well, a lot of teams have needs in the offensive line, but obviously with the Patriots, as I cover

47:20them on a daily basis would be someone that I would, I think they should be interested in,

47:25or at least exploring more, finding out is this guy, can this guy, and what we're going to do,

47:30can he be a tackle for us going forward? So I thought, I thought he had a nice week. Uh, let's

47:36go. We, as we did defensive line, we did the front seven. Talk to me about linebacker who stood out

47:41to you at linebacker. I don't know if Jack Kaiser is going to be able to play in the league. Um,

47:48I, I just, I don't know, like, I don't know what his, his ceiling is in the NFL. It's probably

47:52as a core teamer. And then, you know, maybe he figures it out. Um, it was really good in coverage

47:59all week. Like maybe plays on the football. I think he had two interceptions during practice,

48:03which there's just not, he moves kind of like a safety. He does move like a safety. Um, he's

48:08played a ton of football. The, you know, he made some plays in the playoffs that were

48:12unbelievable. I mean, the play against Penn state on that third down when they needed a

48:17stop or fourth down, whatever that was. And it was like, covers ground better than you'd expect.

48:23Again, I don't know what his, what his NFL ceiling is, but I thought he had a really

48:27nice week and he confirmed for me that like, he can move at least well enough

48:34to be a guy gets drafted. Again, I don't know what that means, but I liked him. I guess it's

48:40the best way I get, like, I started getting this week in coverage, especially, which is the thing

48:43you expect him to be struggling the most. You know, he is every bit the Notre Dame, hardworking,

48:50uh, hardworking coaches, son, smart, like he's, that's who he is. But he's more than that. And I,

48:57I was actually pretty impressed with the way he moved in coverage. I was too. And I thought he

49:01was one of the, um, again, one of the sort of the alphas and there are some, there are some big

49:06personalities at linebacker. I mean, he's a Marcus Freeman guy. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent.

49:13Um, I'll, so he was my choice as well. I will, uh, give a shout out to Shamar James,

49:19Florida linebacker. Who's about the same size as, as, um, as Kaiser. But I thought real, you know,

49:25there was a team period on Wednesday that was extensive. It was 25 plays and it was like real

49:32physical and like it got, there was edge from both sides. And I thought he was prominently involved

49:38in several run stops and, you know, moved well in coverage. And, uh, you know, there's an

49:43interesting guy to me. He's definitely a, he's a, I think he's a good football player. Uh, let's go

49:48to corner. Um, so I had a hard time with this one. I liked the kid from Ole Miss. He hurt the ankle.

50:01He left. I've heard some people tell me he's a first round pick and it's kind of cheating.

50:04Am I going to take a guy in the first round as one of my selections? Um, but I, I guess I was

50:10drawn to Maxwell Harrison, who's 179 pounds, which concerns me a little bit, but a ball Hawk

50:18in college. And I thought he showed some good ball skills this week. Again, I don't,

50:25I don't know how you felt. I didn't feel like any cornerback was like,

50:28awesome. Uh, Thomas from Florida state. Again, he's the first round guy. Probably he was

50:34probably the best of the bunch. Um, but again, like, and I give him credit by the way, because

50:40as some of these guys who are going in the first round tapped out, uh, because they thought they'd

50:45done enough guy like Thomas stayed and was like Thursday was super competitive on Thursday. Like

50:51Nolan, before he hurt the hamstring was, was playing competitively on Thursday. Like

50:56I liked those guys that said something to me about who they are and their character and,

51:00and just say, Hey, I know I put stuff on tape. I know what I'm going to be, but like,

51:03I still want to do this is what I'm here for. Um, Hairston tapped, but I, uh, I liked what I

51:11saw before he tapped. Yeah. I'll do safety and corner kind of combined. I'll do the two names

51:15here. Both guys are probably undersized. I would have said easy Thomas, but I think he's an easy,

51:20he's going to run the first round. He's a good six, one guys. He's like 191 pounds. Good ball

51:24skills. Very long confidence too. Right? Like he never seemed like he panicked. He walks around

51:30like a cock on the walk, which is what you want your quarterbacks to be. He's not, he's a lot more

51:37than Christian Gonzalez sauce, a body type where like a little more slender, longer corner that

51:43like move. He's not maybe that level of good, but he moves a lot like a guy who has a bigger corner

51:49can play guys that are maybe five to five, 10 guy, like isn't going to be a problem.

51:53Um, I've been stout and Billy Bowman are both as corner and safety. Look, I will,

52:01yeah, I will say this for both of us here. Uh, I've been stout probably could play safety in

52:06the league. Um, and could probably play corner. My Billy more of a nickel guy kind of reminds me

52:11a little bit of Michael Carter, uh, on the Jets in terms of just like really like his feet and

52:16his tempo with what he played. He's so patient. He's not that big. Um, he's a small school guy,

52:23like probably is going to go on the fifth round, but it's probably going to start in the league

52:27for eight years. Like, you know what I mean? Like these nickel guys, like this is what happens.

52:31And like, you know, they don't go as high and it's a little bit of a more niche position,

52:35but like if you have a really good nickel, like when the Jets had their defense common

52:3922 and 23, like Michael Carter's a top five nickel and he was hurt all year this year.

52:44And they were like the 15th best defense. You know what I mean? Like it, it does make a huge

52:47difference. Um, you know, and Kenny Moore and, you know, um, you know, I think I'm standing up

52:54in Buffalo. That's literally escaping my head. Yeah. Like when these guys are playing, like

52:59these defenses are really hard to Pete because they're that good. I thought Upton stout was

53:03really good this week. He he's physical. He won't, he'll have no problem hitting you too.

53:06And then Billy Bowman, like his 23 tapes better than the 24 tape for sure. Um,

53:11he's a little overaggressive at times for sure. He talks about as good a trash as I've heard

53:19since I've been going down for the last four years, he, I will, I will leave out the

53:24explicatives of what he said, but in a basically walkthrough period, uh, install period, someone,

53:32I'm not going to say who it was, ran a route and he covered him. Well, the whole thing,

53:37he basically said, told him that he was extremely soft, a loser couldn't get open.

53:42And he runs these practices. And I was like, that's kind of, if you're going to be an undersized

53:48safety, that's going to stick your face in there and hit people and be confident like that. Like

53:52you got to talk it and walk like those are like, wait, that's what you got to do. And he

53:56Oklahoma guy played a ton of football. I don't know, to me again, probably a guy that goes in

54:01day three, more than day two at this point, based on the way the 24 tape was, or like a guy again,

54:07like if you walked out of the draft with, I don't know, up and stout and round six and

54:13Billy Bowman around five, like that might be your two starting safeties for the next eight years.

54:16And like, you'll be okay. You know, maybe they're not going to be the ceiling of, I don't know,

54:21some of these other guys, but like Billy Bowman will hit you and he'll let you know about it.

54:25And I just, I always get, like I said, we've talked about it many times. I get impressed

54:28by the guys that go down there. He's coming off a rougher 24, Oklahoma as a whole, just

54:32was terrible this year. And like, he could have kind of been like, Hey, you know, continued the

54:39downward trend and it came in and like had a really good week. So I just, I was impressed.

54:43Yeah. I like him a lot. Uh, I love your point about his physicality too. Like,

54:49I don't know what, you know, he's not even five, 10, he's under 200 pounds.

54:52Like he's not Buddha Baker, but that way where like I'm undersized, but like, I will let you

54:57know. Yes. I'm here. He's he stuck his nose in on some people during the course of the week. We're

55:03like, maybe that was a little too aggressive for practice, but like, I kind of like it. So yeah.

55:08Like in an era where we're getting softer and softer guys are like, Nope.

55:14I'm an old school football player. Uh, yeah, he's a, he's a fun one for me. Um,

55:20quickly before we go, I did want to make a note. Uh, I wrote this in Boston sports journal

55:24Saturday. Again, we're taping this Saturday. It's not 12 o'clock. Um, Patriots are retaining

55:30Ben McAdoo on Mike variable staff, but Ben McAdoo will be coaching on the defensive side of the

55:37ball, a position yet to be determined. Um, which is interesting because if you look at Ben McAdoo

55:44history, he has never coached in professional football on the defensive side of the ball.

55:49And he's been in the league, I think since 2000. So an interesting little look. And we see this

55:53from time to time where they'll take a D offensive guy, put them on defense and like, well, how would

55:58you guys think and sort of like build that out through the defense. But, uh, I did find that

56:03very interesting and, and quickly too, I'll just say I had some concerns about how they put together

56:10this offensive staff and wondering where the Josh guys were on the staff and the staff is still not

56:15complete yet. And after I did a radio interview on Friday on WEI, um, I, I got a couple of texts

56:23and a phone call and like had some conversations where I don't, I don't want to say they alleviated

56:29my concerns about how the offensive staff has been put together, but they certainly lessened my

56:35overall concern about it. So that, I don't know, I guess my feeling is that Josh is a little bit

56:43more involved. And even though some of these guys are very able guys that, uh, he's got some

56:48involvement in it. Yeah. So, you know, take it for what it's worth. Uh, I, I think, um, I don't know,

56:55just a little something there as I, as I kind of looked to get how they put this group together.

56:59And I'd still like the wide receiver coach who's yet to be named. I'd still like him to be a direct

57:04tie to the McDaniels, but at this point, Oh, I feel better about where they're going.

57:09What's up Troy Brown. Oh, I don't know if they want to go the Troy Brown route at wide receiver

57:14again. Uh, it didn't go so well for, for a few years. So, all right, that's going to put a wrap

57:20on this. We appreciate you guys tuning in a lot of fun this week at the senior bowl. I'm sure we'll

57:24have some leftover thoughts again, um, as we go along here over the next, as we get closer and

57:30closer to draft season, uh, we'll be back with you, uh, beginning of the week. Um, and we'll, uh,

57:36we'll have some fun and we'll start getting ready for the, for the big game, um, down in

57:41new Orleans. He is a Will Parkinson. I'm Mike Giardi. Uh, we will talk to you next week.

58:06Bye.

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