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CLNS Media’s Taylor Kyles is joined by ESPN’s Mina Kimes for her takes on this season’s superlative predictions ahead of the Patriots’ 2024 season.

0:00 - Intro
2:24 - Long-term outlook
4:37 - Rookie of the Year
6:48 - Year Two Jump
8:24 - Underrated Player
9:54 - Expectations for Ja'Lynn Polk
11:30 - Polk's Route Running
14:17 - Maye as Talent Elevator
15:59 - Optimism for White
17:11 - Underrated Bentley
18:51 - Defensive MVP Discussion
20:20 - Barmore's Impact
23:05 - Patriots' Season Outlook
24:28 - Worst Case Scenario


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00:00I am joined by Robert Griffin, the third James Whitefield. Yes, Mina Kimes. All right, so
00:10first play, we're going to look at second into one of the Patriots first offensive plays.
00:16What's going on, everyone? Taylor Kyle's here for CLNS Media coming at you with another
00:20episode of Pat's Daily brought to you by our good friends at PrizePix and GameTime. Today,
00:25I am joined by friend of the pod, Mina Kimes of ESPN, to talk about some season superlative
00:31predictions because obviously, this may not be the best season the Patriots have had,
00:36maybe in recent history, potentially, because the bar is very low. But new seasons are all
00:40about hope. So today, we're going to touch on some players who deserve some recognition
00:45and can give Patriots something to get excited about for 2024. And without further ado, Mina,
00:51how the heck are you? Welcome back. And how are we feeling one week out from the season?
00:56Excited. Excited to stop talking about Cowboys contract standoffs and who's under the most
01:02pressure and trying to predict what the Jets offense is going to look like and all the
01:08great mysteries of the 2024 season. Excited to actually just watch some football and talk
01:11about it.
01:12Oh, yeah. This is the worst part. I'm not good at predicting. I feel like that's when
01:15I put my foot in the mouth the most. Now we're actually going to have results to analyze.
01:19It's going to be a lot of fun. So before we get into the superlatives, I want to touch
01:23on some quick hitters, kind of housekeeping notes for the Patriots because we haven't
01:27spoken in a while. So when it comes to the Patriots, obviously, new regime, very, very
01:32different roster, obviously losing Bill Belichick and all the pieces they did lose.
01:37Things are going to get tough. Christian Barmore, we don't know when he's going to play. Matthew
01:40Judon's been traded. But when you look at this team, especially with an eye towards
01:43the future, do you think they got better or do you think they got worse this offseason?
01:48Well, I think you hit on it. It depends on the time frame that you're looking at, because
01:53in the short term, they got worse. Not a very good football team. They know they're not
01:58a very good football team. I don't think there's any expectations. You're going to win a lot
02:01of games this year. Obviously, you know, you got major losses on defense. Often stop and
02:08sub line is a massive issue. We'll talk about that. But in the long term, if you drafted
02:12the quarterback of the future, if you got some core pieces, guys like Jalen Polk, for
02:18example, who you and I talked about before the draft, I think, and Christian Gonzalez
02:21coming back from injury, then I think you could argue, yes, in the long term, they're
02:25going to be a better football team.
02:26I think you made Patriots fans very happy with your Jalen Polk analysis. We brought
02:30it back up from the show. You bugged it a little bit. And I think people felt a little
02:33better because people have been sleeping on Jalen Polk, but not after this summer. I think
02:37now and he might start week one, by the way. So I train is very much Roa. Maybe we'll get
02:42into him later. But you touched on Drake May. So let's talk about it. Drake May will not
02:46be the starter in week one. That's going to be the veteran Jacoby Bursette drafted
02:50by the Patriots, spent a season in the Alex Van Pelt Browns s system. But obviously, at
02:56some point, Drake May's got to take the reins. So when do you think that's going to happen?
03:01And what do you think it's going to take for Drake May to get on the field? Yeah, well,
03:05aside from reset, potentially getting hurt, which feels kind of bleak to even bring up.
03:13But I know after seeing him get walloped, it's hard not to think that that's a possibility.
03:20And it's hard to, by the way, to not say that and then feel worried about Drake May going
03:24out there. But setting that aside, you know, mid season, I would probably have to look
03:28at a stretch where maybe if the coming off of games against better defenses, if percent
03:34plays poorly.
03:35I mean, the thing about preset Taylor is I actually think he's probably one of the best
03:38backup quarterbacks in the entire NFL. And I think honestly better than some of the starters.
03:43Not many, but a few of the starters out there. But he is a quarterback who plays a lot better
03:48with protection. And seeing him by that offensive line made me think, oh, we might we might
03:53see this change happen a little bit earlier than people expect. Yeah. One thing about
03:57the Patriots offensive line, I will say, when you look at like the entire body of work,
04:02which, you know, it's my job, so it makes it a lot easier when I actually get to watch
04:06every snap.
04:07These guys play, which isn't easy for most. It hasn't been terrible, but it's been the
04:10times that Jacoby's gotten hit. It's been very ugly, like he's taking some real shots.
04:15Obviously, you want to mitigate those. And obviously, when Drake May comes in, you want
04:19to maybe have that offensive line situation at least figured out because the left side
04:22is two backups right now in terms of the rotation they want.
04:26But we're trying to stay positive for this show because we know there's some bad that
04:29we're going to have to endure. But we do want to give some recognition to the guys we should
04:34get excited for. So starting with the offensive side of the ball, who is your rookie of the
04:38year candidate? Lots of options to pick from because seven of their eight players drafted
04:43were, in fact, on the offensive side of the ball.
04:45That's crazy. I mean, I'm going to go with May. Obviously, he's not might not play even
04:50half of the season. We discussed that. We'll see how things shake out. But I think what
04:54you saw in the preseason is a lot of what I saw in college, what made me like him so
04:58much as a prospect, which is dude is just an absolute playmaker.
05:02I mean, you could just tell a second he was in there. It just looks different when you
05:06have those sorts of physical tools. And I think, by the way, also mentally, he's a little
05:12bit farther advanced than maybe he's characterized. Now, again, it's a preseason. You're going
05:16against twos and threes and simplified defenses. And no doubt he's he's going to have some
05:20early career Josh Allen goofball moments for sure. A lot of it, actually, I think for similar
05:25reasons to Josh Allen, which is you saw sometimes in college, he trusted his own arm talent
05:31a bit too much. It wasn't like, oh, my God, what is this guy seeing? It's more like you
05:35need to learn that that's not a throw you should attempt just because you think you
05:39can do it. So that's it. But I just think that he's going to have the sorts of splash
05:43plays that make it clear to Patriots fans why he was drafted, where he was. And, you
05:49know, you and I talked about him for the draft. I liked him a lot as a prospect. I like him
05:53maybe even more after seeing what we have this summer. So whenever he gets in there,
05:57I'm not saying it'll translate to W's per se, but I think there's going to be some some
06:02moments that get past fans really excited. And the breakdown you gave us exactly how
06:06Drake May was this preseason. You saw the splash plays. You saw the things where it's
06:09like, yeah, this is why we get excited about this guy. And there was a bit of confusion,
06:13I think, with some in the pre draft process where, you know, sometimes the mistakes he
06:17makes, some people thought it was really just because maybe he wasn't quite smart enough
06:21because he is young. I get the idea on the surface when you watch his play in the way
06:25he reads defenses like coverage shells. The Patriots are going to throw everything at you,
06:29even with their backup defense when it comes to disguises on the back end.
06:33He solved those pretty well. But then you also saw the things like the jump pass to
06:36Pop Douglas where it misses him wide or the force throw to Jalen Polk in the traffic,
06:40like those things he's got to get under control. But that's obviously going to come with experience
06:44when he gets on the field. Now, year two jump candidate for this Patriots offense. Not this
06:50one is a little bit tougher, not quite as many candidates like even Maffei is no longer on the
06:55roster after getting drafted last year. But who do you think might be someone to take that jump
07:00as a sophomore? Yeah, this is a lot easier. I'm just playing it up again, looking at the defense
07:05because there's not really that many options. The one that pops out the most is just Pop Douglas,
07:11though, just because I think, you know, one, he's going to have opportunities in his offense,
07:17given the lack of skill, talent. I think also with him, I don't quite know where his ceiling
07:24is and what the best outcome is for him as a player. But I do know this. It's feels like when
07:31he's in the ball, when the ball is in his hands, pardon me, something, an explosive play is at
07:36least a possibility. You know, he has juice as a player. And I think you saw glimpses of that
07:42last year for sure. And I think especially if May's in there as quarterback, you're going to
07:47see that a bit more. And Demario Douglas, to his credit, looked like not a high bar, but he did
07:53look like the Patriots best receiver, but he looked different than everybody else. There was
07:57one practice where Christian Gonzalez, it was actually following him in the slot. He made
08:01Gonzo look bad. And I'm not one of those people who's scared because Gonzo wasn't great this
08:05preseason, but it just shows you the dynamic ability pop has. And I liked that you picked
08:09him because I have him as coming. One of the better slot receivers in the league this season,
08:13just based on what we saw this summer and even last season, you can hold me to it if you want,
08:18but we will see because I really do. He looked pretty great this summer. All right. Now your
08:22most underrated player on offense, who's someone that's not getting quite enough credit, whether
08:26it's with the national media or whether it's even kind of locally with Patriots fans.
08:30So I'm looking at just making sure my answers aren't too obvious, I guess. I mean, I'm a
08:37Kendrick Bourne apologist, so I know he's hurt, but I feel like he is kind of perpetually slept
08:45on and spending way for like five years or whatever. So, yeah, I mean, look, he's not a
08:52number one, obviously. And I don't know if there is a number one on this roster as much as I like
08:56Jalen Polk, but I do think he is probably of all, like all of the players in this roster,
09:05the one where I feel like the most comfortable with him on the field year, especially with the
09:11youth. So, you know, he's got great hands. I think he is a little bit, people kind of sleep
09:18on his size and speed a little bit as well. So, yeah, I would go with Kendrick Bourne.
09:24One, I'm not going to lie. I've forgotten to mention Kendrick Bourne in the equation of this
09:28season just because he didn't practice this summer. And he's still the kind of player,
09:31he's on a three-year deal. At some point, he's going to factor into this offense.
09:34And with so many unproven pieces, of course, Jalen Polk's one of the guys you're hoping
09:38establishes himself. KJ Osborne looked pretty good this summer. He got popped,
09:41but Kendrick Bourne, because I think he has so much more ability than he's gotten to show the
09:45past couple of seasons. That's a great pick. Now, I don't think you're going to choose Jalen Polk
09:49for this next category, but I do want to give you the floor to talk about him a little bit.
09:53What are you expecting from Jalen Polk in year one? And for anybody who didn't get to see
09:57your take on him in the pre-draft process and when he was selected, why are you excited about him?
10:02Even though I think Patriots fans now understand where the hype is coming from.
10:05Yeah. Yeah, I guess because you have rookie of the year and it would be May since I gave him
10:10also MVP, which is, you know, but yeah, I feel like, I mean, there's obviously,
10:19I think Polk in the draft, probably the reason he dropped was perception that he's kind of like
10:23a high floor, low ceiling type player, the high floor, largely because of his unbelievable hands.
10:29And you certainly saw that on display in the preseason. I'm sure you've seen that on display
10:33in practice as well. He's just like such a soft, reliable target for a young quarterback. And I
10:37love the pairing of him and May in particular, because Drake May is aggressive. He will constantly
10:42attack. And you saw that in North Carolina, even when he was playing with, you know, not very good
10:48wide receivers, frankly. And I think having a guy like Polk who catches just literally everything
10:54thrown in his direction is terrific. If you have a guy who's going to, he's going to attempt every
10:58back shoulder ball available. He's going to, you know, hit comebacks and some of the more
11:02difficult throws. And I think Jalen Polk is going to really, really deliver in that regard.
11:07But I also think that characterizing him as a below has a low ceiling is a misapprehension of
11:12his abilities. I think sometimes in Washington, because he played in such a loaded group,
11:16particularly with Roma Dunze, you know, maybe his upside was, I think maybe like a little bit
11:23underrated, particularly as a route runner. I think he can actually work all three levels pretty
11:28good. So I'm excited to see him because, you know, he has, I mean, like I said, there's no
11:32obvious number one here. The opportunities are there for the taking. And I think he is the kind
11:39of player who probably early on will get a great deal more targets and other rookies purely because
11:43of situation. Absolutely. And that three level abilities may be the biggest reason that in my
11:48opinion, I do agree that he really is slept on because people think of him as Jacobi Meyers,
11:52who it's like, you know, he's catching cross and routes, maybe a slant every once in a while.
11:56You put him inside the numbers and have him go on a fade, but you're not really thinking
12:00of Jacobi Meyers as a deep threat. Jalen Polk's not like that. He's one of those. If he's even,
12:05he's leaving kind of guys where we started in the preseason where a guy tried to hang with
12:08him vertically. The second he looked back for the ball, Jalen Polk's like, yeah, well, I'm still
12:12running and I'm faster than you in this kind of foot race. Not only that, but I also think he's
12:16a smart player. We did see those hands consistently. And with the lack of proven guys on this roster,
12:21Jalen Polk is primed for a great season. All right, we are going to get to our offensive
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13:31candidate, who you got really carrying what's going to be a mid Patriots offense, most likely
13:37if we're being very honest. Yeah. You know, I feel like MVP. I mean, it's like when May plays,
13:48I think he is going to be the guy who has is a clear elevator of talent around him. Sometimes
13:56that elevator will be going down. It's going to be up and down a little bit year one. But I do
14:01really believe because of the circumstances and particularly the lack of protection, it will be
14:09very obvious that he has an ability to rise above them. That may be Jacoby Brissett for all of his
14:14excellent qualities that backup doesn't. So I'll go with May here. I mean, you know, I guess I could
14:19say, like, I don't know, Michael Oduonu or something like there's I mean, I think Stevenson
14:24is going to be kind of up against it, frankly, in the run game as much as I like him. So it's
14:27hard for me to project a really good season for him. So I'll go with the young quarterback.
14:32If they keep making money when Rookie Lane Robinson on that right side,
14:35I got to say, I'm a little more excited about Ramon Dre's output just because I've been hoping
14:39to see as much as I don't love him when he would tackle. I really like the potential of those two
14:44just absolute bullies on the outside. Hopefully this outside zone scheme kind of helps from under
14:48Stevenson a little bit as well. But yeah, Drake may has got to be the guy, because if this is
14:52going to be the kind of team we're in 2025 teams are saying, oh, or free agents are saying,
14:56I wouldn't mind joining the Patriots. They look like they got a little juice going
15:00trade candidates, you know, people who actually want to join the team, because as we saw with
15:04Brandon, I, the Patriots literally could not buy Brandon services as hard as they tried.
15:09So I think that's a great choice. Now, moving on to the defensive side of the ball,
15:13we're going to skip defensive rookie of the year on this one, because the only option really is
15:17or Marcella style, Dell Pettis and Curtis Jacobs. And as much as I really enjoy those guys,
15:23I think Dial and Jacobs are really going to be more special teamers, if anything.
15:26And Pettis has the fourth safety. You can't really expect much from him.
15:29So we're going to skip right to year two jump candidates,
15:32which much easier than the offensive side of the ball.
15:34Yeah, this is a lot more fun to talk about. Yeah.
15:36We were three defensive players last year. Now, Marte Mapu didn't participate in the entire
15:40summer. I'm excited about what he could do when he is healthy. That does kind of skew things.
15:44But who do you have as the year two sophomore candidate to break out for New England's defense?
15:49Yeah, it's hard not to pick Gonzalez because I loved him as a prospect.
15:52And in the event he did play last year, you saw, I think, a lot of those special traits,
15:57which is why, you know, everybody's so optimistic about him, despite,
16:01I guess, what sounds like an up and down summer. And but I'm going to go here, white man.
16:05I like I think. Boy. I think he year two is going to be so much is going to bring such a
16:17more well-rounded game in terms of like his pass rush repertoire, his disruptiveness in run defense.
16:24There's obviously great pressure on him to deliver on that front, given the loss of Matthew
16:28Judon and Christian Barmore. But you saw certainly in the preseason when he played like he really has
16:35all of the tools, obviously, the size, the athleticism and whatnot. I think it's kind
16:40of thing where like, OK, you're two, if he really starts to put his game together,
16:43he's going to be very, very scary to deal with. Even Keon has said that that's a big focus of
16:47his game is being more well-rounded because he knows he's been better on the inside as a pro,
16:52especially late last season, really, when he came on. But he told us, yeah,
16:55I want to be better on the outside. I want to be a more effective pass rusher because
16:59like he even didn't use power on the outside in training camp because he wanted to
17:03be able to become more diverse in his game. Rod Mayo said that he was one of the standouts in the
17:08spring. So I think you're on to something there. All right. Now, most underrated player on this
17:12Patriots defense. Another category where I feel like there's a lot of candidates.
17:16So many games don't think this unit gets enough love for how much talent they have at all three
17:20levels. I mean, you could literally pick any of the linebackers looking at the depth chart right
17:24now. I like them all so much. I think they're all really, frankly, slept on. I mean, Juwan Bentley
17:29is one just like I, you know, you never hear him talked about nationally. And I mean, but other
17:35guys like to buy Jennings, like there's just so many good players on this. I think Kyle Duggar
17:40now is a little bit more known, so I'm not going to mention him. I'll go with Bentley just because
17:45I never hear people talk about him. And it's so, you know, there are so few off-ball linebacker
17:53groups in the NFL that you can count on both against the run in the past, particularly against
17:59everything that modern offenses do. And the Patriots year after year seem to be exceptional
18:04at that. I hopefully it's what would be prioritized. Rod Mayo is the head coach of the football team,
18:09you know, because of the work that they've done there. So yeah, I mean, I think you could pick
18:13any of them, but I'll go with Bentley. Especially now that all those guys are getting coached by
18:18Dante Hightower. I'll actually say all those linebackers look like they've been coached by
18:23Dante Hightower in the preseason. They were all balling out there. My friend Greg Rosenthal always
18:28teases me, but I'm like Dante Hightower is one of my favorite football players of all time.
18:31And I talk about him constantly and how, you know, Patriots don't win all those Super Bowls
18:34without Dante Hightower. You can point to everybody every game. There's like a moment
18:37where he makes like a crazy play, but yeah, that's it's both amazing to see him out there
18:41and also makes me feel incredibly old. Now, that's why you're a friend of the show. Dante
18:45Hightower, if he's one of your favorite football players watching, that's good stuff. All right.
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20:19valuable player on the defensive side of the ball. I feel like this does get tougher without Christian
20:23Barmore because you could make an argument that he is the best player on this entire football team,
20:29but with him out indefinitely, we don't even know if he's going to be back this season.
20:32Who do you have as being the most valuable player on New England's defense?
20:36I actually think this is really hard, especially without Barmore because the way I see the Patriots
20:42defense is, and I've had them in my top 10, that was granted before they traded, before the judo
20:48and Barmore news. I don't know where that would have them now, but they're still going to be fine,
20:52which is not a popular opinion, it seems. They don't have that many true superstars,
21:01but they have a lot of A-B players at every level, and they have depth, which is really
21:06unusual. There aren't that many defenses across the NFL where I would look at, and I'd be like,
21:10they've got good players at every position. There's no guy who's making a zillion dollars
21:14who gets 18 sacks or whatever. I don't even know who's going to get 13 sacks in this defense,
21:21but my point is there's just good players at every level who are well coached and they tackle
21:25well, and that is a formula for success, but it makes this question very difficult.
21:30I think Christian Gonzalez has the upside to be the MVP. I think he has the ability to be a true
21:35shutdown corner, but I feel a little bit nervous picking him coming off of the injury. White,
21:41again- Moving well, I will say this summer,
21:43if that helps at all. He doesn't look like he's a guy who had a season-ending injury last year.
21:47So he's the one, I think, with the highest ceiling. Keean White, maybe I would put in
21:53there as well. I think I'll go with Duggar, honestly, just because for me, he really
21:58embodies the identity of this defense, the way they play, all of the things, obviously,
22:02the versatility, but also just the way he hits and tackles and moves, but it's an odd pick because
22:10he's not even making that much money. It's-
22:13I don't know. He's winning defensive MVP for anything.
22:17I mean, but that's, I feel like, pretty representative of how I view this defense,
22:21which is a lot of really, really good players. Yeah, and with the sacks, I will say some guys
22:28that I think we need to keep an eye on- Yeah, tell me.
22:30Even twice, the old veteran who I think he's looked really good, even in the preseason,
22:35he didn't play a ton, but it felt like every time he was brushing the passer, he was getting a sack,
22:39and O'Shane Ziminez, a guy who actually Jonathan Jones mentioned today,
22:42is someone who he thinks is going to surprise a lot of people. Didn't do a ton for the Giants
22:46last year, but the year before, he was really in the mix on the ball, off the ball, showed
22:51something as a pass rusher, really more well-rounded than a guy who's really elite at anything,
22:57but just for fans out there, if you're looking where the pass rush is going to come from,
23:00obviously, Keon White, but those two guys, I think, are going to be in the mix as well.
23:04All right, now round this out with your floor and ceiling for the Patriots. How do you think
23:10the best case scenario looks for them, and how do you think it's going to look if all goes wrong?
23:16You want record prediction, or just general- If you've got a record prediction, I'll take it.
23:20No, no, no. I'm really, really nervous about
23:21record predictions. I think it all starts with the quarterback, because the thing is, this defense,
23:26it's funny, even with all the losses, I still feel like they're going to win. I think four and a
23:32half is the line for their wins, and I still feel like they clear that, because I just think this
23:35defense is going to drag teams to hell a little bit. That's not really what the season is about.
23:41The season is about developing Drake May, and I think it's a really, really difficult
23:48task because of the issues in terms of the offensive line. I have had a lot of difficulty
23:53answering the question of when should Drake May start, and I consider myself to be probably higher
23:57on Drake May than consensus, certainly at ESPN, conversations I've had there.
24:03Success looks like Drake May playing and not getting hurt and being protected sufficiently
24:08so that he can actually develop. I would say what we saw in the preseason, we have ups and downs
24:13and talent, and ideally, one of the young skill players really developing alongside him. You see,
24:19okay, Jalen Polk, maybe he's not a 1A, but he feels like a 1B, and then if next offseason,
24:24you can continue building, that feels great. Worst case scenario is that Drake May plays,
24:32and the offensive line situation is so non-functional that not only does he not develop,
24:37but you actually feel like it sets him back as a quarterback. He develops bad habits,
24:41the classic David Carver and me scenario. Both of those things, I think, are within the realm
24:46of possibility, which is what is kind of exciting, but also kind of scary for Patriots fans.
24:53Also, why it's not that bad that Jacoby Bursette isn't starting right now. We all want to see
24:57Drake May, but he's under contract for quite some time, and ideally, if all goes well, he'll be here
25:02for a very, very long time, so just be patient. Let the kid get out there when the situation
25:08looks a little better for him. Maybe not perfect. Patriots keep saying he's the kind of boat that
25:13rises all ships or what have you, or he is going to be the elevator of that talent, like you
25:16mentioned, but you also don't want to put him out there in a really crappy position either, but
25:21Mina, thank you so much for your time. As always, please, before I let you go, let the people know
25:26where they can find you and what great stuff you got coming down the pipeline that we should be
25:29looking out for. Just note, this is being recorded on Tuesday, just in case I end up dating us in
25:34any way. Yeah, the Mean Time Show featuring Lenny is my podcast. You can listen wherever
25:39you pause. Check it on youtube.com slash at Mina Kimes. A lot of Drake May talk over the last
25:45month and a half. So if you want to go check out that channel, you know, and also I know I'm like,
25:50I'm hiring consensus, but actually everybody I've had on my show has been pretty excited about what
25:54they've seen in the preseason, which has been a lot of fun. And we're starting the season with
26:00my very first NFL preview episode of the year. We are doing every game this Thursday. I don't know
26:06how long that'll last, but Patriots fans tune in now while we're talking about you. I will definitely
26:12make plays. We'll also talk about you at that point too, but check it out wherever you get your
26:16pods. And I'm also going to plug the Sean Evans pod that you did recently because I have such
26:21huge crush on that man. That was an awesome, awesome podcast. Yeah. Best of both worlds
26:26kind of situation. Fantastic. So check out all of Mina's great work. Once again, Mina,
26:31thank you so much for your time. And thank you all as always for watching. Now take care of
26:35yourselves. Take care of each other. We will see you next time. Peace y'all.

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