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Mike Giardi and Will Parkinson react to the latest movement on the NFL coaching carousel. The Jets got their guy in Aaron Glenn; how does he change their outlook? The Patriots are filling out their staff around Mike Vrabel, have they made the right moves? Plus, they preview this Sunday's championship games and the storylines to watch.  0:00 - Intro 1:17 - Aaron Glenn & the Jets 10:38 - Who could be the next Jets OC? 15:53 - PrizePicks 16:56 - Cowboys Coaching Search Update 21:34 - Jaguars & Liam Coen Update 27:37 - Patriots Hire McDaniels and Williams 33:40 - Gametime 34:30 - NFC Championship Preview 43:30 - AFC Championship Preview 53:07 - PrizePicks of the Week   ************************************************ Patriots Content Brought to you by.... 💰 Prize Picks - https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/CLNS Download the app today and use Code CLNS at PrizePicks.com/CLNS & Get $50 instantly when you play $5!  🎫 Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. Terms apply. What time is it? Gametime!  Merch Store - https://shop.clnsmedia.com  Social Media!!!! 🏈 Patriots Twitter- https://twitter.com/patriotsclns 🏈 Patriots Instagram-  https://www.instagram.com/patriotsclns/ 🔵 Facebook- https://facebook.com/clnsmedia 🔵 LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/company/clnsmedia/about/ 💟 Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@clnsmedia ********************************************************* 🏈 ABOUT PATRIOTS COVERAGE ON CLNS: 🏈  Welcome to the CLNS Media Network’s YouTube channel for New England Patriots 🏈 football.  CLNS Media is the leading online provider of audio/video coverage for the 6X Super Bowl Champions.  Get complete inside access to the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro and everywhere on the road. CLNS Patriots credentialed insiders Greg Bedard, Andrew Callahan, Tayler Kyles, John Zannis, Alex Barth and Mike Kadlick provide instantaneous news and analysis all in real time, as well as full access to complete videos from the players, coaches, ownership and everyone else inside Patriots Place.  If you enjoy CLNS’ Celtics 🍀 All Access and are craving more Boston sports content, you head over to CLNS’ Patriots 🏈 Press Pass at  🔴 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqX7G3pEDTseNxtoDU27PEg?sub_confirmations=1 🔴  __________________________________________________________________________ 🍀 For Celtics Content:  🔴  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1 🔴 🔴 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1 🔴 🏀 🍀 Celtics Twitter - https://twitter.com/CelticsCLNS 📸 🏀 Celtics Instagram - https://instagram.com/celticsCLNS 🔵 Twitter Main- - https://twitter.com/clnsmediaCLNS 📸 Main Instagram - https://instagram.com/clnsmedia

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00:00It is caught! Touchdown!

00:04The New England Patriots select Drake May.

00:08He's got the ball! And that's the ball game!

00:12Here we are, the All-32 pod once again. Mike Ciardi alongside

00:16Will Parkinson. Big show planned for you as we get ready for the AFC

00:20and the NFC title games. We're going to go through the coaching search as well. A reminder, this show brought

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00:32you want to see, let's jump into the coaching. Let's jump into what happened.

00:36What do we got? Texans have fired team president

00:40Greg Grissom. Grissom, sorry. That was out of nowhere.

00:44Bit of a surprise. Not anything that cool, but

00:48team president being fired out of nowhere in the middle of the offseason

00:52is not normal. Particularly when the organization seems

00:56like it's finally pointed in the right direction. You know what we should do?

01:00Texans.

01:04The Texans will Texan still, even with the contract extension

01:08pre maybe a lawsuit coming up. You never know with them.

01:12Let's get into the head coaching. Let's get into Aaron Glenn

01:16officially the hire for the Jets. We talked about it. We've talked about

01:20it quite a bit for the last, I don't even know how long, months really, but

01:24Aaron Glenn, I'm sure you've heard in on him. Got him. Just the overall vibe

01:28you're picking up from from the Jets offices right now.

01:32Yeah, it's look. This has been the guy for this dates back

01:36three years ago at like at the at the

01:40like it dates back 20 years ago, but three years ago at the Senior Bowl,

01:44the Lions were coaching and and Jets were also coaching there and Glenn

01:48who had a relationship with a couple of Jets guys that you know some of the Jets

01:52you know where she media in particular who's rich covered and Glenn's first

01:56practice with the Jets for Newsday back in 94 with the

02:00locker next to Ronnie Lott. Carol's head coach

02:04the Jets traded up ahead of the Saints in that draft one pick

02:08to grab Aaron Glenn. Everyone thought they'd go receiver. They draft Aaron Glenn. There's five nine

02:12corner at Texas A&M. I was pretty cool that that clip

02:16if you like retro like watching some of those draft clips from the 90s and 80s. It actually

02:20was really cool. Boomer Boomer looks great. Kiefer's there's going in the whole thing

02:24but loved it in New York and he told you know

02:28rich at the time the Jets were his dream had coaching job and this is Aaron interviewed in 2021.

02:32He was he had been a coordinator. I mean he'd been in a D-backs coach for one year. It's not you know

02:36right got some preliminaries on him. He had scouted for the

02:40Jets in-house and as you know and on the road

02:44so this is not this is not a surprise. He's a Texas guy.

02:48He talks about it. That's why he ended up retiring in Houston and he went followed Bill

02:52and Dallas and stuff but he's been a jet forever.

02:56They've you know first game of the stars a player. He made multiple

03:00Pro Bowls. People don't remember 96 and the Jets had

03:04the first pick back to back years, but 96 they were awful.

03:08They went one in 15. They were the worst team I've ever seen

03:12and you know Keyshawn's a rookie. They've Aaron Glenn. They start to bud

03:16town. Bill Parcells comes in and changed Aaron Glenn's life

03:20became a Pro Bowl level corner. There's multiple Pro Bowls

03:24obviously and an All-Pro. The Jets 12 months later were in the

03:28AFC title game and up 10-0 against the Dynasty Broncos on the road and had

03:32every reason to be going to the Super Bowl. Had Curse Martin not fumbled and we can do that whole

03:36diatribe of like what happened in the 90s, but Aaron watched

03:40and helped turn this organization around and it's probably its low point

03:44or one of its lowest points in 97-96 going into

03:4897-98. Was then a scout under Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum. Mike

03:52Tannenbaum who was running the interview process. There's a picture I tweeted out of Rex

03:56Woody Johnson and Aaron Glenn in his first year scouting. He's obviously

04:00he's worked his way up. He's been a scout. He's played in the league for 15 years.

04:04He's been a coach at every level and

04:08one thing I'll say about Aaron Glenn and this is the reason I think Mike Vrabel and Aaron Glenn

04:12Mike Vrabel was not a good defensive coordinator. He was a really damn good head coach.

04:16He was an awesome player. He was an awesome position coach. He had a

04:20year in Houston Mike and I don't remember Mike Vrabel. We weren't like wow great D.C.

04:24We were like Mike Vrabel probably is a great leader of men. He will hire a really

04:28strong staff and he'll figure it out. That's what the hope is with Aaron Glenn. He's going to have that

04:32Vrabel Pete Carroll level role where he's going to run everything. It's going to be his franchise.

04:36He's the face. The face now of the Patriots is Mike Vrabel and Drake May.

04:40The Jets will be their future quarterback whoever may be in Aaron Glenn. It's not about Woody

04:44and whoever they hire GM. Darren Moogie looks like

04:48the favorite at the moment. Mike could get hired before this episode comes out.

04:52But it'll be about Aaron Glenn. They want him to bring a couple

04:56scouts, a couple nerds with him and he'll do his thing.

05:00Good defensive coordinator, better coach.

05:04A couple of things that I just want to highlight here and I'll turn over to you on your thoughts but

05:08a couple quotes I got. Very big in analytics. I talked about that the other day.

05:12Aaron Glenn, he's on the Pivot podcast

05:16with Ryan Clark and Fred Taylor who he played with in Jacksonville and the whole thing.

05:20One thing stood out to me and this has been, you ask any Lions player, any Saints

05:24player, Chris Banjo is probably going to be their deep special teams coordinator who played for him

05:28in New Orleans. Sean Payton, Dan Campbell, Bill Parcells

05:32all very successful. That's his tree.

05:36There's a lot of Parcells in Aaron Glenn and Bill Belichick.

05:40The 98 Jets staff, what Glenn is based on,

05:44the way he talks about it, he said he models himself after Belichick.

05:48We're talking 90s Belichick, not 2019 Belichick who was just kind of an asshole.

05:52We're talking the guy that was the most bright defensive mind in the world.

05:56Parcells and Payton. He said that anybody that doesn't

06:00follow his standards is a traitor and can go play anywhere else. You're going to follow my standard.

06:04We're going to play violent football and we want to bring violent football back to the NFL.

06:08Again, good defensive coordinator. I think he's going to be a better head coach.

06:12They got to get quarterback and offensive coordinator right. That's all that's paramount.

06:16On the face of it, I'm not sure the Jets and Jets fans could have asked for a better

06:20like, oh, we can take a deep breath. It's not about Aaron Rodgers

06:24anymore. It's about Aaron Glenn. I love your point about sort of him embracing

06:28the qualities of that staff that he grew up under as a player

06:32because Vrabel to me is the exact same thing.

06:36Mike, in a lot of ways, when you hear Mike talk about what he wants in a football team

06:40and what he wants out of players and the opportunities that are going to present themselves.

06:44In other words, we let you try something. If you show us that you can handle it,

06:48we'll give you a little bit more and then a little bit more. You earn the opportunities

06:52that you get and if you continue to get them and make something out of them,

06:56then we'll give you more. But the whole baseline of his belief system

07:00was what Belichick brought to the table

07:04when Vrabel was his player underneath him in New England. And obviously Belichick

07:08got that from Parcells, right?

07:12Vrabel has more of the Parcells personality

07:16but the baseline of what he is as a football coach

07:20comes off of that tree. Yeah, these guys, I think Vrabel and Glenn very specifically

07:24they played under Bill and they played under Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick

07:28I believe, if I'm not mistaken, was Vrabel there

07:32when Parcells was in New England? I don't know.

07:36No, he was brought in. He was in the 2001

07:40before the 2001 season. He was part of that free agent class.

07:44Regardless, these guys played under these guys. So they're a Belichick tree or Parcells guy.

07:48Aaron Glenn is a Sean Payton guy. That's his coaching tree.

07:52Who is a Parcells guy? So it's like Vrabel is a Bill O'Brien guy

07:56is a Bill Belichick guy. So it's a little bit removed where you don't try to emulate

08:00and be this person you're not. And the one thing I think is the key here

08:04I'll say this, and I'm going to be pretty harsh about Robert Sala here, but Robert Sala

08:08cared more about being liked than winning, in my opinion. That's the way his tenure felt

08:12with the Jets. I want to be liked by all these other coaches. I want to be liked by all these players.

08:16I want to be best friends and buddies. And I can't speak to John Mayer. I was in the locker room

08:20but sometimes it feels like you don't need to be buddy-buddy with everybody. There's a good

08:24side to have that. Aaron Glenn's like, I'll watch tape with you and I'll talk you through

08:28situations, girlfriend problems, all that stuff. I'll be there for you as a brother

08:32father figure. But when it's time to go, it's time to go. And I want to win

08:36more than I want to be your buddy. So I don't think there will be

08:40a problem with Aaron Glenn telling anybody in that organization, including

08:44Woody Johnson, including his kids, to shove it where the sun don't shine.

08:48It's very similar to my example. It's the same thing like, hey, I appreciate it. You're my boss.

08:52I don't really want you to fire me. But I'm going to be who I'm going to be

08:56and I'm not wavering.

09:00Take me or leave me. He said the one quote I liked

09:04he asked him about the Rooney Rule. And obviously Aaron Glenn's a guy who people feel like,

09:08oh, is he affected by it? He said, if you don't think I'm the best candidate for the job

09:12do not interview me. I have no interest in your job. I'm not a token.

09:16And I was like, this dude truly just

09:20believes in himself. And there's no fluff, man. He's like,

09:24I'm who I am. Take it or leave it. And the Jets took it. And I think it's going to

09:28we don't know if it's going to result in wins. But I think there's going to be a much more

09:32the culture there for at least next year and the year after probably

09:36will be much different than the mopey, crappy

09:40Rodgers, solid lead culture.

09:44They need to flush that out big time. It reminds me of what Vrabel said at his press conference.

09:48We've got to remove entitlement. The Jets have to remove entitlement from that organization

09:52and getting Rodgers out of the building is certainly a way to start.

09:56Nick Haley.

10:00Keyshawn Johnson, teammate of Aaron Glenn, about 10 minutes ago said there is

10:04zero chance Aaron Glenn has interest in Aaron Rodgers

10:08on his team. I believe Rodgers is going to retire. And I just don't think Keyshawn just says stuff

10:12I take that back. Keyshawn does say stuff to stay stuff, but I don't

10:16think that he would have, for a guy that he's teammates with and buddies

10:20with multiple years, multiple different stops, I don't think he would just

10:24like James Jones when he would say stuff about Rodgers or Rodney Harrison and the McCourty's

10:28would say stuff about the Patriots. That's not a guess.

10:32It feels like it's an educated opinion.

10:36Nick Haley

10:40has in the last 24 hours emerged as the front runner for the offensive coordinator position.

10:44Of course, his background, he was with the Patriots for a number of years,

10:48was in the last year of his contract, appeared to be in line to be the

10:52offensive coordinator when Josh McDaniels took the gig with Las Vegas, and that is

10:56when Bill Belichick decided, no, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to put Matt Patricia

11:00and Joe Judge in charge of the offense. Obviously

11:04at the end of the year, Haley left, went to the West Coast, joined

11:08Sean McVay's staff. He was up for the OC position. In fact, he

11:12was the choice for Gerard Mayo and the Patriots staff last year, turned down

11:16the job. There was some talk that it was about money.

11:20I think there was just reservation in general with the entire setup there

11:24and the Rams turned around, reworked his contract,

11:28gave him more duties, more responsibilities in LA. I think

11:32he is a bright guy. I think Tom Pelissero five years ago had him as

11:36an up and coming head coach. The one fear would be obviously he still

11:40hasn't called plays, so he will be a first-time play caller for a first-time

11:44head coach, and that's where beyond that hire, which is

11:48critically important for Aaron Glenn, becomes the next

11:52layer to that is who helps Nick Haley become the offensive

11:56coordinator that you want to be. Obviously having experience under McDaniels is great

12:00because Josh is a really good offensive coordinator. Now having the experience of being under a different

12:04tree and a different style in McVay, a great play caller,

12:08is also really important, but I'd still, if I was them,

12:12if I'm Aaron Glenn, I'd still want someone who's been around the game a lot longer

12:16than Nick has to just sort of be his right-hand guy.

12:20Bounce things off of, hey, you might be overlooking this or maybe you need to look that direction.

12:24I feel like Aaron's got a good handle on, especially

12:28having come from Dan Campbell's staff and the way Dan built his staff,

12:32that I would feel like Aaron's got a good handle on. If I'm going to go this route,

12:36I need some experience there alongside. You know the name that's

12:40likely to join the Jets staff? It's a blast from the past. Todd Haley

12:44is the guy. He coached Glenn. I'm telling you, I

12:48researched that Jets staff from 98 to 2000.

12:52His coaches, most of whom we've joined him on the staff

12:56or who endorsed him to get this Jets job. Todd Haley, likely to join

13:00his senior advisory role, is obviously multi-time head coach. He's a lunatic

13:04and their practices are going to be as intense as it's going to get.

13:08Todd Haley does not mess around. Todd Haley was the

13:12receivers coach. The DB coach, assistant DB coach, Todd

13:16Bowles, the real defensive back coach and defensive coordinator, Bill Belichick.

13:20There was Charlie Weiss. A lot of the Patriots guys obviously ended up

13:24with the Dynasty guys, were on that Jets staff. And obviously Parcells.

13:28I would expect very, and then Mike Westhoff was also

13:32there, who is likely to resume kind of an advisory role.

13:36If you were asking the staff right now, it'll likely be

13:40offensively some combination of these five names.

13:44Nick Haley, who you just mentioned, who I think is the favorite. McVay had a quote today.

13:48There hasn't been a request yet or anything official. I think he knows

13:52it's going to happen. Good for Nick and good for Sean. He gave him a promotion.

13:56He came over. He helped him a lot this year and he'll get his own opportunity to grow his own

14:00tree. Josh McCown's the rogue outsider. Glenn's apparently interested

14:04there. It seems like Josh wouldn't leave just to be

14:08an OC. He would only leave to be a head coach. Mark Brunel and JT

14:12Barrett on the Lions staff. Those are guys to watch for both the Bears opening

14:16and also the Jets opening. Or do they get promoted to be the Bears,

14:20I mean to the Lions offensive coordinator role. Brunel obviously similar to McCown.

14:24Quarterback that saw everything, mentored a lot at the end and has been a quarterback coach with the Lions

14:28for four years. The other two names, Clint Kubiak

14:32and Hank Fraley. Fraley, the O-line coach

14:36looking to get that promotion to be an OC. He may get the Seattle job

14:40so we'll get a Seahawks shout out in this episode. And lastly, Clint Kubiak

14:44who's done a really nice job. I know we talked a little bit about him.

14:48Clint, could Gary Kubiak come and be the offensive advisor

14:52type of guy. So those are the names there. Defensively, it looks like Steve Wilkes is going to be the

14:56OC. Again, a guy with head coaching experience. And then lastly,

15:00Chris Banjo, former safety Glenn coach for four years in New Orleans

15:04has been the assistant special teams guy to Mike Westhoff out in Denver.

15:08It looks like Denver, there'll be a lot of, the Jets staff will be the Lions,

15:12Saints, Broncos, basically.

15:16Did you in some way touch the 98 Jets? If you did, you will be

15:20on the staff. Well, and it just goes to show you though that having

15:24Aaron between being a player and then getting

15:28into coaching and doing scouting and going through the different levels there, you

15:32build up relationships. Something Gerard Mayo didn't have a year ago when the

15:36Patriots were trying to form their staff. You let guys work their path through the league.

15:40Yeah, hodgepodge of guys. Like, we'll take this guy. I know him from a second

15:44guy over there. My brother's cousin's sister's friend. He'll

15:48come on board. Obviously, it didn't work.

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16:56Mike, can we go to Dallas quickly? What do you got?

17:00Florio just put out an article. Again, take this for what you will. Brian Schottenheimer

17:04is deep. He interviewed for five hours yesterday. It's his second round. He's been

17:08the OC there. He obviously interviewed two days ago as well.

17:12There are some very respected Dallas Beat reporters that

17:16said the deal is going to be done soon. There's other Dallas reporters. Jane Slater

17:20said they're not close. Again, competing stories. This tends to happen this time

17:24of year. The rumor is

17:28Rex Ryan, who was supposed to get the job but due to money, apparently,

17:32according to Rex, did not take the job this year. Mike Zimmer ended up getting.

17:36Would join Brian Schottenheimer as his DC in Dallas,

17:40which to me is objectively funny because Rex was time with the Jets. His offensive

17:44coordinator was Brian Schottenheimer. What do you make of the Dallas

17:48turmoil in Dallas? Unserious

17:52franchise. That's the first thing that came to mind. There are a bunch of them

17:56in the National Football League, but when you consider the brand that is the Dallas

18:00Cowboys, when you consider the financial resources that

18:04Jerry has, Jerry's world is unbelievable. It's the greatest stadium.

18:08Well, I haven't been to the LA one yet, so I can't say it's better than the LA one,

18:12but I've been to the Dallas one. I've been to the others. The Dallas stadium is

18:16unbelievable. It's a gold mine. He has a

18:20franchise-ish quarterback. Franchise quarterback, depending on how you feel about

18:24Dak Prescott. He has C.D. Lamb, one of the three best receivers in football.

18:28There is an inordinate amount

18:32of things that line up for that franchise to be good almost every year,

18:36and he's not approaching it that way.

18:40He didn't approach it that way with Jason Garrett, who was a puppet as his head coach for, what,

18:44nine years, I believe it was, and Brian Schottenheimer feels to me like

18:48this is the next version of Jason Garrett. I can control the coach.

18:52I'm the star. He's not the star, and this is how we go.

18:56If I was a player there, and I'm not saying Brian Schottenheimer

19:00is a hack. He's not. He's been in the league for a long time, right? He's a good football coach.

19:04And I would be a good head coach.

19:08And maybe he turns out to be a great head coach, but there's nothing

19:12in his past that would lead you to believe that that's what he's going to be.

19:16At best, this is like an average hire

19:20doesn't push the needle one way or another. And again, if I'm a Cowboys

19:24player, I'm looking at my owner going,

19:28are you serious? You fired Mike McCarthy, who has a resume and at least

19:32one Super Bowl win. You fired him to hire his

19:36coordinator? That's what this search was all about? And it always felt like this was

19:40going to go in a weird direction. Kellen Moore seemingly felt like

19:44that was the way it was going to be. And we'll see. As you said, there's varying reports, but I just

19:48think it's laughable. I do. I really do. And good for him if he

19:52gets the opportunity. Truly.

19:56I know it's a different situation, but it is a little...

20:00Again, I know Mike McCarthy is not Bill Belichick

20:04or Bill Parcells, but part of me feels like it's like,

20:08oh, we're going to fire Bill. And we just can't wait to get this coordinator who

20:12probably doesn't have the resume to be a head coach right now. It's different. Gerard's younger.

20:16But the Jets, Parcells walks away. They hire Billy, who obviously leaves. And they're like,

20:20here's Al Groh. You're like, are you serious? This is a good team.

20:24We were in the playoffs last year. What are we doing here?

20:28The problem for me is it's not even about Brian Schottenheimer

20:32as you mentioned. Look at the other names that are finalists.

20:36Robert Sala, Anthony Weaver.

20:40Oh my God, I just blanked out. Kellen Moore, Jason Witten. There was the

20:44Deion Sanders rumors. Wesley Frazier. Dude, those are

20:48the names, if I'm being entirely honest and real

20:52about it, are the names that you look at and you go, the worst team in the NFL is probably

20:56the Houston Texans three years ago, four years ago, when they were looking at David Culley

21:00and Lovie Smith. It's like, retread here or retread there.

21:04I hope Brian Schottenheimer does an amazing job because he's

21:08worked an entire NFL life to get this opportunity. I hope he does.

21:12But the time for him to get a head coaching job was like 2011

21:16when the Jets won the AFC title game back-to-back years as the OC.

21:20Mike, that was 14 years ago. The Jets haven't been in the playoffs since. And Brian Schottenheimer

21:24hasn't deserved a job since as a head coach. So I don't know what they're doing.

21:28Well, you know what's kind of funny? You said like you're trying to make comparisons.

21:32Well, let's make the comparison to the Jacksonville Jaguars, who

21:36fired Doug Peterson as we all knew he was going to get fired. He gets fired.

21:40And after two weeks of a head coaching search in which their two top candidates

21:44were, um, why am I drawing a blank on his name?

21:48The coach of the Bears now. Oh, Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson.

21:52I was like, where did that go? Ben Johnson and Liam Cohen,

21:56head offensive coordinator for Tampa. Ben Johnson basically was like, you know what?

22:00No thank you, because you're keeping Trent Balke, the general manager, who has hired

22:04five different coaches and four of them were terrible.

22:08Look at his past history. This goes back to San Francisco now. Jim Tomsula.

22:12Right. One year. Chip Kelly, one year. Like literally just

22:16He had one year and one coach. And that was, again, like 15 years ago.

22:20Harbaugh, right. Um, so it takes them

22:24two weeks and Liam Cohen saying, you know what? I'm out.

22:28They think they're going to give him the job after Ben Johnson goes to Chicago.

22:32They'd zero in on Cohen. Who's going to say no to a head coaching job?

22:36We've got a, you know, whatever. We've got a $50 million quarterback who

22:40may or may not be good, but we have it. We have some pieces. We can create

22:44some cap space. Whatever. We've got a high draft pick. We've got all these things.

22:48And Cohen's like, no. And then they decide, you know what we should do?

22:52What everybody told us we should have done before the season even ended is fire Trent

22:56Balki. So they fired Trent Balki. And I'm guessing

23:00some, you know, we're taping this. It's Thursday, 4-12 in the afternoon.

23:04I'm guessing they're making one last overture to Liam Cohen and being like, dude,

23:08get your GM, whoever you want, and we got you here.

23:12And we'll see. Maybe Liam Cohen now is like, nope. You guys, again,

23:16I'm serious. You're an unserious organization. And I'll wait

23:20one more year and be like, maybe like Ben Johnson, where I

23:24was the hot guy last year, and I still remain the hot guy this year. And maybe

23:28there's a better job out there than the Jacksonville Jaguars.

23:30Yeah. I suggested this. I think when we, I don't know,

23:34maybe two weeks ago, three weeks ago, it feels like the best path

23:38for him was either take one of these jobs now or wait one more year, get another

23:42year of experience. The Buck's job's probably yours if anything goes wrong this year

23:46or if Todd decides, hey, man, I've been doing this as we've just talked about. He's on

23:50the DB coach in his 40s and the 90s Jets.

23:54This is quite a long time ago. Todd's been doing it a long time. Now, maybe

23:58he says, hey, I'm kind of tapped. I don't know. Maybe he really does. Maybe he doesn't.

24:02I have no idea. He's a good coach.

24:04Or maybe they say, hey, you've been good for us. We've won division titles,

24:08but you're not taking us to the next place. And maybe Liam becomes the coach in waiting.

24:12Yeah, a little Mike Martz, Dick Vermeule, obviously

24:16again, different situation. Just the hot shot offensive guy that doesn't have to be

24:20head coaching experience. This is

24:24so inept. Look, I understand if you try to sell me

24:28on, hey, listen, I know Trent hasn't done a great job, but he has drafted

24:32some good guys. Trevon Walker's actually good. Trevor Lawrence is

24:36good. Josh Hines-Allen is good. Look what he's done, man.

24:40We just haven't gotten the right coach. We made the playoffs two years ago. We won a playoff game

24:44three years ago, whatever. We should have made the playoffs as a division winner

24:48last year. We choked at the end. Trevor gets hurt.

24:52Whatever. Again, I wouldn't buy into it, but

24:56I could understand Sean Conley. For sure. Same way

25:00we talked about a lot. Drodd could have done it with the Patriots or all these things.

25:04But once you kept him and you fired Doug Peay,

25:08it was over. Now, figure out who you're going to get.

25:12Even if it's Robert Sala, who felt like the favorite,

25:16as soon as Liam Cohn pulled out. Now I don't know, because Bahlke

25:20did that. Ruined his shot. Who knows? He's interviewing, I believe,

25:24in person tomorrow as a second round.

25:28He's also apparently got an offer from San Francisco to be the highest paid defense coordinator

25:32in the league. That's a pretty good fallback place. Hey, go rebuild for a year.

25:36Dallas and Vegas still. It's crazy. This guy was

25:40whatever.

25:44I guess what I'm struggling with, Mike, is they're going to turn to

25:48hope Joe Brady and somebody

25:52else. Oh my God, I'm blanking out. That's still in the playoffs. Whether it's

25:56Matt Nagy or Joe Brady or whoever it may be.

26:00Or Cliff Kingsbury or somebody is going to

26:04magically wait two more weeks. Maybe they do. Dan Quinn was hired in February last year.

26:08That said, if you're a

26:12Jags fan, where's your optimism in saying

26:16they're going to get this right? Because now it's like we just reacted to the fan and media outcry.

26:20That's not a good strategy. Whether I think Trent

26:24Bahlke should have kept his job or not. It's a horrible strategy of a way to run your

26:28team. Now I'm going to overturn it. You're not going to start the interview process over?

26:32What are we doing here? It's two weeks later.

26:36They should have listened to all the coaches

26:40who told them your job's not nearly as attractive.

26:44All the executives who told them your job's not nearly attractive if you keep Trent on board.

26:48You could have maybe landed Ben Johnson. Maybe Ben Johnson

26:52looks at Trevor Lawrence and says, I can fix him.

26:56I see why he was the best quarterback prospect to come out since

27:00I see it and I can do it. But you screwed it all up.

27:04In terms of a landing spot for your first job, Jacksonville,

27:08easy media market. That division's not

27:12very good. You could go in there and all of a sudden, year one, boom, you win the division.

27:16You're king. You've built up this equity already.

27:20Instead, you've totally slubbed the whole thing up,

27:24which is just absolutely remarkable, but yet at the same,

27:28this is what the Jaguars do and Shad Khan does and his son.

27:32They're a mess. I wanted to mention one other thing just on

27:36Patriots front. They officially announced Josh McDaniels as the

27:40OC, which we talked about when we did the emergency pod on Tuesday.

27:44They also, as I kind of been leading you down this road, Terrell Williams

27:48named the defensive coordinator. He, of course, was the Lions run game coordinator

27:52defensive line coach last year under Dan Campbell and Aaron Glenn.

27:56That had spent six years as Vrabel's defensive line coach in Tennessee

28:00and eventually became the assistant head coach. Mike actually let him coach

28:04a preseason game as sort of a thank you and respect for

28:08and also to everyone else. This guy should be on your radar

28:12at some point. He's never gotten that kind of buzz, but that's going to be

28:16an interesting marriage between he and Vrabel because I think having Josh

28:20on board allows Vrabel to spend more time on defense

28:24and be more of the CEO type coach and let Josh coach the offense

28:28as Bill used to do. Bill would turn his back on the offense at times

28:32because he knew that Josh had it handled and Tom Brady did

28:36as well. This is a little different, obviously, with Drake May being in his second year, but

28:40you can have trust that this guy has done it for a very long time as an OC.

28:44Their floor is raised a lot. That's all I really have to add there. I just think the Patriots

28:48have done a good job of what I talked about the other day. When we did the Vrabel

28:52reaction pod, a lot of the Patriots fans liked my comment about

28:56they feel like an 8-win team next year. I actually say that

29:00as a big comp. I think that if they win 8 or 9 games, you go from what?

29:04They went 3 this year, 3 then... And then have a freaking parade here. That's how desperate they are.

29:08We have our franchise head coach, our clock down corner,

29:12and we just more than 50% increased our win total.

29:16That's a successful season to me. This staff, to me,

29:20screams, like, I don't know about the ceiling.

29:24I have a couple questions there. Does Nick Caley's ceiling

29:28higher than Josh McDaniel's? Absolutely. But is his floor

29:32a lot worse? He could be Michael Floor.

29:36We don't know. I do like

29:40some of the moves they're making. Again, I believe they brought in the Titans strength and conditioning guy.

29:44I saw that Tony Dews, the running back's coach,

29:48that's who did some good, nice work this year. He was also with the Titans prior.

29:52As long as they keep Keith Carter away from that organization, you'll be fine.

29:56That's the next big hire, quite frankly.

30:00Instability with that offensive line coach. I'll give you just two more nuggets on the

30:04coordinators. One,

30:08Josh McDaniel's is really excited about the prospect of coaching Drake May.

30:12It's an interesting relationship because obviously

30:16does Drake May want to be the best? We don't know that yet.

30:20He's pretty internally driven, but we don't know. Is he going to spend this offseason

30:24looking at the things he did wrong and working to fix them? Josh Allen, every summer,

30:28every offseason goes away, and he works on something and comes back, and it's better.

30:32It's fantastic. Brady used to do that. This is what I couldn't

30:36do, or I didn't do it as well as I want, and he'd work on it. Does Drake do that?

30:40But Josh knows what that looks like because Josh did it

30:44with Tom. He helped Tom

30:48as Tom helped him. I'm just curious. He looks at Drake May

30:52and looks at this moldable clay and says, I think if this guy's got

30:56the internal drive that I can get him to where he's a top five player at the

31:00position. I think that's going to be fascinating to watch. Then on

31:04Williams, real quick, talking to a lot of people in Tennessee,

31:08absolutely love the guy. Jeffrey Simmons basically gives him credit for

31:12developing him into one of the best interior defensive linemen in football, a guy who

31:16completely ruined the Patriots offense in their game this season.

31:20Then there's a quote from Brad Holmes, who actually

31:24they overlapped at North Carolina A&T, which I mentioned the last thing. Holmes

31:28said he's a great teacher. He's a straight shooter. He's really the first coach that

31:32taught me the nuances of achieving what you want to achieve on the field, behind the scenes.

31:36He's the one that used to bring me in and sit me down and watch tape with me all summer and learn

31:40the ins and outs and develop a relationship so that you can build that trust with the coach.

31:44Vrabel talked about this in his opening press conference,

31:48about how he wants his guys to be great teachers and to be great

31:52leaders. Terrell Williams fits that mold. As one guy who

31:56played for him told me, he's the kind of guy that will MF you to your face,

32:00but he also will tell you that he loves you and you believe it.

32:04He knows the names of your kids, knows the names of

32:08your wife, the whole thing. He's involved with his players off the field,

32:12but when it comes time to work, as you mentioned with the Aaron Glenn stuff,

32:16OK, it's time. Put that stuff here

32:20and let's go do what we're supposed to do.

32:24Here, before you do your reading, we're going to do the games. Tony Buscelli,

32:28Jaguars Hall of Famer, is going to be helping lead the search for their next coach.

32:32What does he know about that?

32:36He doesn't. It's just getting worse

32:40the more they talk about it. Jon Spitek, obviously a Brady guy,

32:44announces the Raiders GM. It's probably almost a year late, but

32:48a really nice hire. Pete Carroll looks like the guy that, if I had to be a betting man

32:52right now, that's what I would make, which would be a nice coup for them.

32:56There was one other thing I wanted to mention there. Oh, Bill Belichick, Mike.

33:00Monday night football to start the year against

33:04TCU. Bill finally signed his contract

33:08when the NFL told him to go scratch.

33:12We just covered a lot, but man, that is quite an entrance

33:16against TCU. Yeah, that's going to be fun. Like I said, I'm really looking forward

33:20to what it looks like and see how he can motivate 18, 19,

33:2420-year-olds and see, for someone who likes to

33:28get exotic on you and likes a lot of different points there, how does he

33:32put it down for 18 and 19-year-olds? You want to go to that

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34:32Let's start with Philly hosting Washington,

34:36NFC Championship game. My first question to you,

34:40can Jaden Daniels continue to do what Jaden Daniels

34:44has done, which is throw for nearly 600 yards in the two playoff games,

34:48four touchdowns, zero interceptions, rush for, I believe,

34:5286 yards in those two games total, and just has had

34:56an answer for whatever teams have thrown

35:00at him. He played a lot of college football, and I think

35:04you're seeing that experience and the coolness under pressure

35:08shine through, but I think even this is beyond

35:12what you could have expected, even after a terrific rookie season for him to play.

35:16Right now, he's the best. In terms of the four quarterbacks left in the playoffs,

35:20he's the one who's playing the best. Yeah, a couple different stats

35:24ESPN shared this morning that I thought were pretty relevant

35:28and I wanted to bring to the show. QBR

35:32during Washington's last seven game win streak, Dan Orlovsky tweeted this out, make sure you give him credit.

35:36Jaden Daniels' QBR, Mike, is 98.5 out of 100,

35:4071% completion, only taking three sacks.

35:44For other further reference, these teams played in Week 11. Daniels was clearly

35:48injured. They only blitzed 11% of the time, but when they blitzed, his QBR

35:52was 21. He was pretty bad, frankly. Yes. That was the game where

35:56he was a little bit beat up coming into that one. Yeah, it just wasn't pretty.

36:00Week 16, they blitzed him three times his amount. Fangio's like, we're going to light him up 33%.

36:0496 QBR went healthy.

36:08Look, I think this is a house money game for Washington. I think they're going to make

36:12this really close. They're playing so well right now,

36:16and they do some of the things Philly's not great at.

36:20I don't know. He's going to press some of these. He's going to save the pocket.

36:24I don't think you can blitz him the same. I don't think you can rush him the same.

36:28I think he'll make you pay. Dan Quinn over Sirianni is a big

36:32advantage for me. I'm sorry. Dan Quinn

36:36and Joe Witt Jr. versus Kellen Moore is a mismatch.

36:40The Eagles' talent is going to win them this game. It's not going to be coaching.

36:44Cliff Kingsbury versus Fangio, actually a pretty fun matchup.

36:48There's Cliff trying to get the ball out of Jaden's hands quickly. Can Terry McLaurin make

36:52two big catches? That's what he did last week. That's what he does every week. He's not a

36:5610 for 104 in a touchdown. He's like 6

37:00for 150 or 3 for 75 in a touchdown.

37:04They've got to be able to run the football. They have to get off the field on third down.

37:08If I'm Washington and I'm Dan Quinn, I am making

37:12Jalen Hurts make not quick decisions. I am making

37:16him process. You need to get to your second and third reads buddy

37:20because we've seen even teams like the Panthers, we've seen it

37:24across other games too, but that game stands out where it was like

37:28no offense, the Panthers at that point in the season

37:32were playing better football. That said, they are very bad.

37:36He looked awful. I think he's 150 yards

37:40a game, Mike, or something like that in playoff wins. Make him make decisions

37:44and get the ball out of Jaden's hand quickly, quickly, and then you've got to beat him over the top

37:48when you get the opportunity. Yeah, 6 of his last 7 starts.

37:52He is thrown for less than 200 yards, Jalen Hurts.

37:56You were talking about how Fangio defends him.

38:00It's going to be fascinating. Fangio raved about him. He's like, the tape says it's not a rookie.

38:04I know what it says on this thing, but the tape... He is 22 years old.

38:08Quinn Yon Mitchell is a big one here. Left the game

38:12with a collarbone injury against Los Angeles. They had a walkthrough on Wednesday.

38:16I have not seen the practice report for today. Again, we're taping this Thursday afternoon

38:20427 right now. He's an important piece. In Week 11

38:24he locked up Terry McLaurin.

38:28They played a little bit more man. In the Week 16 matchup, McLaurin

38:32got him for a touchdown, but Mitchell's a very good player. He was my, by the way,

38:36Rookie of the Year for the Pro Football Writers. He did not win.

38:40I thought he had a terrific year.

38:44Again, that doesn't have the counting stats. I knew that first was probably going to win.

38:48That's because people are lazy and they didn't look deeper into it.

38:52That's my shot on people, period.

38:56Sam Cosme. Here's another one. We talk about injuries. Sam Cosme,

39:00Washington's best offensive lineman. Tore up the knee. He's out for the rest of the

39:04postseason. Now Jalen Carter.

39:08Carter's still the better player. Carter was the best defensive player on Philadelphia's

39:12team. One of the best defensive players in the league, but Cosme did a decent job on him

39:16or at least slowed him down some. Without him in the lineup,

39:20does Carter just straight up eat in this game? How does Vic Fangio

39:24move him around? He probably should. I'm sure there will be doubles

39:28in this process, but Jalen Carter has the potential to be

39:32a game wrecker, the best offensive lineman for the other guys

39:36who lined up across from him quite a bit is not going to be out there.

39:40Again, this is going to be a trench game.

39:44I think the Rams gave you a good blueprint in just some

39:48ways to beat this team. The offensive line,

39:52Washington does not have the same kind of edge rushers

39:56that the Rams do. Braden Fisk

40:00had every shot to win, by the way, Rookie of the Year. He went out early in that

40:04game and they started to run the football. Washington's got to get themselves out of

40:08the one spot where Chris Shuler made a couple mistakes. It was only a few,

40:12but he did make a few. Saquon one-on-one with a safety

40:1610 yards deep is not going to cut it. You've got to make sure Frankie Louvu and

40:20Bobby Wagner are playing really well with their eyes.

40:24I don't want to say eat blocks because I think that

40:28in turn makes me feel like that's not a smart decision either, but

40:32maybe not be as overly aggressive.

40:36It sounds stupid, Mike, and I would never say this in any other game

40:40versus another team. Kind of make Kellen Moore run the ball 12 times

40:44in a drive and almost get the slow death if that's what it takes.

40:48It keeps your offense fresh and maybe your defense gets worn down by the end of the game.

40:52I don't think Kellen Moore is going to stick to the run for 12 straight plays.

40:56I don't know that I'm selling out

41:00run blitzing as much as I can against Saquon who is

41:04very much, whether you run blitz him or not, he's negative 2, negative 2,

41:084, 2, 2, 2, 98. That's who he's always been when he was amazing

41:12with the Giants, when he's been great with the Eagles. I'd almost

41:16call his buff and be like, dude, this is what happened.

41:20The Commanders did a great, great job of this last week against Detroit. They were like,

41:24Ben Johnson, I'm going to ask you to not do something stupid

41:28for 60 minutes. Dude, run a basic

41:32offense. I bet you can't because it's what makes you great, but it's also what kills you.

41:36You want to take Saquon out, but if you make them

41:40one-dimensional in either way, you've already won. I'd much

41:44rather them be one-dimensional passing. If I'm Dan Quinn, Joey Jr.,

41:48can we copy some of the Detroit tape of what we did to them? Jameer Gibbs,

41:52Saquon Barkley, probably the two scariest guys to defend in the league. I'm on a run.

41:56Chase Williams are great players. A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith, great players.

42:00I don't know. Mike, I don't know.

42:04Look, they traded for Marcus Lattimore and sat him for a good long time

42:08for him to get healthy. Obviously, his leg's under him a little now. Yeah, a little bit better.

42:12Mikey Sandler still is playing great, the rookie out of Michigan who

42:16loved him coming out. He's playing that way. Do they

42:20trust those guys on the outside at times? We're not going to put

42:24you out there on an island by yourself all the time, but you know what, Lattimore,

42:28A.J. Brown's a bit of a hothead. You want to talk to him like you talk to Mike Evans

42:32and maybe whatever. You get him off his game a little bit. Obviously, we know that

42:36they've struggled to get him the damn ball.

42:40I'm really curious to see how they defend them because I think

42:44you look at it simply and you say, look, load up on Barkley

42:48and say, Jalen Hurts, you haven't beaten anybody with your

42:52arm for pretty much two months. Can you do it on a bad

42:56knee, by the way? A lot of people feel like he has a sprained MCL. Again, in the walkthrough, he was

43:00a participant, but they went walkthrough for a reason on Wednesday.

43:04I think it's going to be... Philly's the better team. Philly has

43:08the best talent left of the Final Four,

43:12but I don't love the way the quarterback's playing.

43:16He's either going to have to find a different level, a higher level than he's been playing at, or they're going to

43:20have to lift him up, as they've been doing, whether it be through the defense

43:24and Barkley, to get it done. The next one is

43:28the rematch. We get this pretty much every year in the playoffs now. Bill's

43:32at the Chiefs for the AFC title game. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,

43:36they're 4-4 against each other in their eight starts. The problem with that is

43:40Allen wins in the regular season and Mahomes and the

43:44Chiefs have won in the postseason. We know the 13-second game, which stole

43:48a victory from Allen and probably stole a Super Bowl from the Bills, but the Bills

43:52going in there... This isn't the best

43:56talented... This isn't the most talented Bills team, but I feel like this

44:00is the deepest team and a team that has

44:04a bit more of an identity, especially on offense, where it's not all

44:08about Josh. I feel like

44:12if they can run the ball as effectively as they have for a better

44:16part of the season, particularly in the postseason where they've had their two best rushing performances

44:20in terms of success rate all year, then they have the chance

44:24to finally do this and slay the dragon and stop the three-peat.

44:28There's going to have to be a lot of things to go into this. I think some ball control,

44:32I think Josh continuing to make the right decisions.

44:36I don't know if you saw the clip from him, Will. He was asked

44:40on Wednesday, if you remember the play down by the goal line where he was

44:44pitching it and then he got twisted up and he looked like he was going to pitch it

44:48and he didn't, but it was clear that it was on his mind

44:52and he was asked about it and he smiled. He's like, no, I wasn't thinking that.

44:56But then he was pushed and he's like, it crossed my mind. He's like, but that was

45:00the old Josh, the new Josh, the one with the good angel on his shoulder versus the devil.

45:04I chose the good angel and I didn't do it. He's had that kind of year

45:08where he has made better decisions than most. In fact,

45:12probably in terms of making the best decisions from start to finish this year at the quarterback

45:16position, it's probably been him. Can he keep doing that against his Kansas City

45:20defense? This is who doesn't beat themselves.

45:24Neither team has done it this playoffs thus far. Buffalo, obviously, twice

45:28and Kansas City last week. Quick nugget on that, by the way,

45:32the two quarterbacks have turned the ball over since their Week 11 matchup. There has been

45:36one turnover between the two guys and that was Josh Allen's arm punt

45:40against the Patriots in the finale. Not the arm punt.

45:44I just think it's who doesn't meet themselves

45:48and I said this last pod and I'll say this again

45:52just as a disclaimer. I am praying we don't talk about the refs.

45:56I can't do it, Mike. It's so tiring.

46:00They're right. Everyone's right. I complain about it all the time, but I just

46:04don't want to talk about it. I don't want to hear Nick Wright defend the Chiefs. I don't want to hear

46:08the Patriots fan complain about the Chiefs. I just don't. I can't do it.

46:12This should be a great game. Two great quarterbacks. I hope.

46:16Last week it felt like the Ravens-Bills game

46:20there was a few calls, but they got overshadowed, thank God,

46:24by Mark Andrews and other things. By the way, before I even

46:28was curious. I didn't prep you on this one. Curious your thoughts on

46:32donating to a guy's charity who choked the game away on the other team. A little demeaning.

46:36It's interesting because it's sort of been...

46:40The Bills Mafia has sort of jumped in and done this

46:44a few times, and they've had people do it for them as well.

46:48Look, Mark Andrews did not want to be

46:52in that position. I guess it's cool that people are putting...

46:56Whether you want to call it demeaning or not, the fact that people are willing to put money

47:00into his charity. He's going through it. He just posted, I don't know

47:04if you saw it, he posted on Instagram sort of like... Because he didn't speak after the game.

47:08He didn't speak on the breakup day on Monday, which

47:12is kind of frowned upon. That's not supposed to be the case. Cam Newton had a mental

47:16breakdown today about it. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. He said it's just like Fox

47:20News and how no one holds anyone accountable these days.

47:24Oh, I wonder where that's coming from, Cam. Did you maybe not speak after Super Bowl in which you had one

47:28of the softest plays we've ever seen? That's so weird. Why would you ever be upset

47:32about that? He doesn't belong on television. He's just not very good.

47:36Anyway, Mark was very... Like, look,

47:40I feel like I let everybody down. It's a dark place. I don't want to talk to anybody.

47:44Yeah, which you understand. There was a lot riding on that. I think Baltimore felt

47:48like they were the best team in the National Football League. Yep.

47:52Don't even get a chance to play in overtime there and get the game

47:56on. When we look at this game, and we talked

48:00about this quite a bit going into the last one, Joe Tooney playing left tackle.

48:04And Joe Tooney had his struggles at left tackle against Houston

48:08Will Anderson. It appears that Joe Tooney is going to play left tackle

48:12again. And we

48:16kind of talked about it a little bit, but he's so good at left guard and Creed Humphrey

48:20at center and Smith at right guard

48:24that have they taken what was a strength

48:28and made it into a weakness to cover up another weakness? Or have they

48:32downgraded a strength to cover up a weakness? And is that making

48:36them maybe not as good as they should be? Maybe you're better off just saying,

48:40hey, we're going to stick whoever it is, DJ Humphrey's out there at left tackle, and we're going to chip

48:44and we're going to double. But we're going to have the three guys that we have in the

48:48middle that we were able to run the ball behind effectively quite a bit

48:52and they haven't been able to run the ball effectively for quite a bit now.

48:56Is that the right move?

49:00Yeah.

49:04Kansas City is going to be really interesting in this game, in my opinion, Mike,

49:08because it's like you mentioned the devil

49:12on Josh Allen's shoulder at times versus the angel and stuff like that. I almost

49:16the devil versus the angel of the Chiefs are

49:20better when they run the football a ton and they punch

49:24you in the mouth. And then Mahomes on third down just is amazing.

49:28Very Patriots-esque, especially at the end where it was like kind of dink and dunk

49:32and get yourself in third and four and everyone in defense is like, oh,

49:36third and four, that's awesome. And then it's like Brady's like, cool, I'll take six yards every time.

49:40Mahomes is like, oh, it's third and 12, dude. I'm going to run around. I'm going to flop. But I'm going to

49:44somehow hit some guy that nobody can see on the television screen for a 40-yard gain. And I'm not

49:48sure why no one's covering Travis Kelsey. The Bills

49:52ended the run much better on Sunday night. They still got

49:56gashed on a couple of drives. And the Chiefs need one of those. They need one of those drives.

50:00They had them last year in Baltimore. They had one drive where it was like punch you in the mouth, punch you

50:04in the mouth, Kelsey, punch you in the mouth, Kelsey, punch you. That's what they did. Right down

50:08the field, Kelsey turned back the clock. They put himself, the Gronk, take him out of

50:12the garage for three or four weeks. That wins them this

50:16football game. Do not turn the football over. Eliminate the

50:20bad holding penalty that's going to happen from John Taylor or Joe Thune. We're going to get

50:24one. Or they go offsides and everyone gets mad.

50:28And if you're Buffalo, I don't know, I kind of almost

50:32very similar to almost the opposite of Philly.

50:36I'm almost like make the devil

50:40in them run the football too. I don't know.

50:44Buffalo is decent enough right now against the run that I take

50:48chances challenging Patrick Mahomes to just turn back and hand it off.

50:52I don't know if that means sitting in zone. I don't know if that means some overload blitzes

50:56specifically off of those tackles.

51:00Try to keep your rush lanes. Can Vaughn Miller give you, does he have one or two

51:04plays in his bag? Can he get something out of

51:08Ed Oliver inside and can he beat somebody once or twice and just keep you honest,

51:12keep Mahomes honest? Got to hit him early. Mike, we saw in that Super Bowl, we've seen when they've

51:16lost very few times. Very similar to Brady.

51:20Any good quarterback, you got to hit these guys early. For Buffalo,

51:24on offense, I don't think it matters quite as much. Josh is like a battering ram.

51:28I don't actually think he weirdly likes getting hit.

51:32I almost think Josh is the opposite. It's almost like let him get a little really confident early and maybe he makes

51:36a mistake getting a little too ballsy, very farvish, where it's like

51:40please just give us one. And Josh hasn't done it to his

51:44credit. The one thing I'm curious, Mike, is

51:48kicking, as always in these games with the Bills especially.

51:52And McDermott is a good coach. He's a damn good coach.

51:56We talked about Todd Bowles. I know probably not quite as successful as

52:00McDermott, but very similar. Very good regular season, gets you to the playoffs.

52:04Great defensive mind.

52:08All that said, does he curl up

52:12a little bit? Got really tight last week in the second half. The Bills

52:16are up. I don't know. Let's play the scenario. They're up 17-10

52:20halfway through the third. They score a big touchdown and go up 17-10.

52:24Does he put it in second gear instead of fourth and say,

52:28ooh, we're going to try to drain this game out? I hope he doesn't, but that's my one worry

52:32I guess from Buffalo. That and Bass kicking, it's really a crapshoot

52:36with him in the playoffs. And Bucker, I know he's got the knee, but you trust him at home.

52:40Those are two things we just don't talk about that I think are crucial here.

52:44I would hope McDermott, after seeing Patrick Mahomes

52:48up close and personal for eight different matchups, would realize that if you're up 17-10

52:52you can't take the air out of the ball. You've still got to let your quarterback go make

52:56plays. He's helped get you here. He's really been

53:00the driving force behind what's gotten you there, and I wouldn't want to take the ball out of his hands.

53:04Certainly looking forward to that one. We've got to do prize picks.

53:08I lined them up. I went deep. I got five

53:12of them for you. And of course, one is the Jaden Daniels more than the

53:16half-yard passing. So you can combine these any way you want. You can do the

53:20five and aim high, or you can piece mail them together.

53:24I've got Saquon Barkley more than a half a touchdown,

53:28and that can be, they have the, the prize picks has it with both

53:32rushing and receiving, so you get the benefit there.

53:36I've got James Cook more than 57 and a half rushing yards. I think they're going to lean on him a little

53:40bit in this game, and obviously try to keep the ball

53:44out of Patrick's hands. I've got Josh Allen with more than a half rushing touchdown. I think

53:48they get down inside the two or three yard line and he's just going to bulldoze.

53:52And then I have Jaden Daniels. He's been awesome. This number seems

53:56low to me. 223 and a half yards passing. I'm going to take more

54:00on 223 and a half because I just, if they're going to

54:04win, he's going to have to have a big day, both with the arm and the legs.

54:08So I'm going to go Jaden Daniels. Obviously

54:12we talked about the passing yards one for him.

54:16I'm going to go Jalen Hurts on under, lower, I apologize, on his passing

54:20yards. I've talked about it, weirdly, for whatever reason with him.

54:24The yards kind of have never been like, he never is a massive

54:28yards guy, but in the playoffs for them to win, like he

54:32just simply does not throw for more than like

54:36130 yards. He's at 179.

54:40They've never won a, he's averaging one, he needs

54:44179 to get to 300 for the playoffs.

54:48So I'm going to go less than for Jalen Hurts. I just think they win this game. It's because

54:52of Saquon and those guys. They have another advance.

54:56Travis Kelsey Moore receiving yards, 70

55:00and a half. Do I think Travis Kelsey is like a tenth of the player he was even

55:04like 24 months ago? No, but these games he just like pops up

55:08and it's like, how are you still doing this? Why are you so open?

55:12You look like you're in cement, but he still figures it out. So those

55:16two, I'm going to give you a third one here, Mike, that's a bit

55:20of a weird one. Not weird.

55:24Amari Cooper more than 16 and a half receiving yards. There's no

55:28way, I said this when they traded for him by the way, that he was not going to work because

55:32for whatever reason the games get tight and he gets a little

55:36tight for him. You're telling me he can't catch

55:40two passes for 20 yards? Come on. And he showed up in their first meeting

55:44like that. I just, I don't,

55:4819 and a half is, it's a dummy line. I know it's going to end up being

55:52less, but I just feel like I have to go with it. That's not

55:56fair. Yeah. Shakir was the only receiver who went nuts in their

56:00first meeting, but Cooper had a couple of big catches in that game. All right.

56:04That's going to wrap it up. Enjoy the weekend. Enjoy the football.

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