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Cedric Maxwell, Josue Pavon, and A. Sherrod Blakely dive into the latest results from the Boston Celtics, as they've been around a .500 team after disappointing results. They discuss whether fans should be worried about the state of the team and their ability to repeat as champions. Then, they dive into the latest on Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat, as the disgruntled star was suspended again.  0:00 - Intro 1:30 - Celtics vs. Rockets Recap 10:20 - Add at the Deadline? 17:05 - PrizePicks 18:28 - Jayson Tatum's Scoreless Half 22:19 - Jimmy Butler Suspended 26:38 - Can Bronny Play in the NBA? 36:20 - Gametime 38:15 - Should Phoenix Trade for Butler? 42:00 - Should Houston Trade for Butler? 43:12 - De'Aaron Fox Trade Request  CLNS Media is Powered by:  💰 Prize Picks - https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/CLNS Download the app today and use Code CLNS when you sign up & Get $50 instantly when you play $5!  🎫 Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying NBA tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. Terms apply. What time is it? Gametime!  💳Start earning points on rent you’re already paying by going to joinbilt.com/GARDEN. Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you: joinbilt.com/GARDEN, to start earning points on your rent payments today!  Elevate your style game on and off the course with the PXG Spring Summer 2024 collection. Head over to https://PXG.com/GARDENREPORT and save 10% on all apparel.  Nutrafol! Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off any purchase and free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code GARDENGIFT!   #celtics #NBA #BostonCeltics The CLNS Media Network is the leading provider for video/audio content. CLNS is a fully credentialed member of the media with access to all NFL/NBA/NHL/MLB teams & venues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------  CLNS' rebuilt their YouTube community in less than 12 months, during a pandemic that attacked sports. Wondering how? Find out here (and support our channel) - https://www.tubebuddy.com/clnsmedia  Visit the Official Home of CLNS Sports Coverage -  https://clnsmedia.com  Twitter - https://twitter.com/CLNSMedia Celtics - https://twitter.com/celticsclns Patriots - https://twitter.com/patriotsclns Bruins - https://twitter.com/bruinsclns Red Sox - https://twitter.com/redsoxclns Non-Sports - https://twitter.com/northstation Facebook - http://facebook.com/clnsmedia INSTA - http://Instagram.com/clnsmedia INSTA Celtics - http://Instagram.com/celticsclns INSTA History - http://Instagram.com/nbahistoryclns

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00:00The Cedric Maxwell podcast is brought to you by Price Picks and the Game Time app.

00:16All right.

00:17Another episode of the Cedric Maxwell podcast.

00:19I'm Joseph Pobon.

00:20Cedric Maxwell is here of course and we've got a special guest, Asher Oblique, back on

00:26the podcast from the NBA Big 3.

00:29It's been a minute.

00:30It's been a minute.

00:31What's going on, fellas?

00:32It's been all spiffy.

00:33Did you dress up for us?

00:34Damn.

00:35I would lie to you and say, of course, but that would be a lie.

00:38So I ain't gonna lie to my brothers today.

00:40Today will be the one day I will not lie to you.

00:42This is Truth Telling Tuesday.

00:44So we're gonna keep it 100 today.

00:47Yes.

00:48That's what we do here, right, Max?

00:49Gotta keep it 100.

00:50Hold on to 100.

00:51Especially with these Celtics.

00:52Exactly.

00:53Exactly.

00:54Hold on to 100.

00:55All right.

00:56I thought you were gonna say something else, Max.

00:57I thought you wanted to get something off your chest.

00:58I don't know how I did that.

00:59That's all.

01:00Yeah, man.

01:01Look.

01:02What happened at TD Garden.

01:03We gotta get into it.

01:04Obviously, fourth quarter, late game execution, but also we gotta talk about the Celtics as

01:07a whole.

01:08I mean, how are we feeling about going into somewhat close to the adult start break here?

01:12How are we feeling about the Celtics team?

01:14And we gotta talk about what's going on down south in Miami, man.

01:17Man, Jimmy Butler, another suspension, another, uh, looks like a, looks like a, uh, like the

01:22heat done reduced the price tag for him now in the middle of all this crap.

01:28So we'll get into that as well.

01:29But first things first, man, Celtics, Rockets, Imei Udoka, back at TD Garden.

01:34He really wanted this one.

01:35I felt like it was written all over his face.

01:37He was, he saw that score that, or that deficit increasing, went to double figures, but then

01:42came Dylan Brooks playing the game of his life, 36 points, 10 three-pointers, tied a

01:47career high, but don't sleep on, hey man, Thompson, man, man.

01:52Taking it to the rack, taking it to the hoop against the Celtics.

01:55And of course he did the, the, the, the biggest shot of the night, man, left one second on

01:59the clock as a little defensive hiccup happened on the Celtics end, but don't not to discredit

02:05my guy because man, that was a hell of a hell of a play, uh, even before that as well.

02:09But yeah, let's get into it guys.

02:10Late game execution.

02:11Sharada, I'll let you start first.

02:12What happened throughout that fourth quarter and how did the Celtics let that one slip

02:15away?

02:16Well, I mean, when you, you gotta go back even before the end of the game and embrace

02:20the fact that in those late game situations, usually Derek White low key is a guy that's

02:27making sure everyone is what they need to be and doing what they need to do.

02:30Uh, and to the point that, that you were making earlier about just, you know, uh, Dylan Brooks

02:37hit shots, amen, doing his damn thing.

02:39At some point you needed someone to just bring a little bit of force, a little bit of physicality

02:44and remind them that, you know, you are the Houston Rockets and you may be young up and

02:48coming, but you ain't here yet.

02:50Uh, and we need to remind you of that.

02:51And I thought that's where a guy like Al Horford would have been beneficial because I do believe

02:55that Al at some point, he may not give you a bunch of points, but you know, all the easy

02:59drives and never get to the lake, Al got six files every night and Al knows how to use

03:03them.

03:04Al is an OG.

03:05And I think Al would have really embraced the moment that was, that they were in.

03:08And that is, this is a team that's coming for your spot.

03:11This is a team that believes that if they play hard enough, they're going to beat you.

03:17They did.

03:18And the Celtics, to me, this was a reminder of just how important having all the pieces

03:24in the kitchen are.

03:26This team, I'm going to tell you now, they're not going to win a championship if they don't

03:30have all the complimentary pieces ready and willing to go to war.

03:34Because what they did last year, winning a championship and not really getting a huge

03:38game or get a huge series for Zingas, that cannot be your idea of ideal blueprint to

03:43win another title.

03:45You're going to need everyone to step their game up and be available to step their game

03:49up if you're going to win a second title.

03:51And when they have those games where you're missing one or two key pieces, this is what

03:56happens.

03:57I mean, think about this from Luke Cornett's standpoint.

04:00At some point, he's probably thinking, why the hell am I on the floor when the game's

04:04on the line?

04:05This ain't what I do.

04:06This ain't who I am.

04:08This is-

04:09You know what?

04:10No, no, no, no, no.

04:11You know he was thinking that.

04:12That's the truth.

04:13You know he was thinking that.

04:14If you're a footballer, if you really want to play and you get an opportunity, then you're

04:18going to step up and you're going to play.

04:20Luke has been really good.

04:21He has been good.

04:23I think I look at that first half, Jason Tatum was no place in sight.

04:28Jason Tatum didn't score in the first half.

04:31Now he had a really good second half, but defensively, you look at what the thing you

04:36talked about is Derek White.

04:38Derek White would have been one of these guys against Brooks.

04:41Yeah.

04:42And probably-

04:43Yeah, he would have blown them down, but because they kept, he was pretty much wide open.

04:49Then he started hitting some tough shots, Hauser not being available.

04:53But this is what I talked to Al Horford about.

04:57Al told me, and we had breakfast, I said, he said, when it came to not playing on second

05:04mile back-to-back, he said, I was, whoa, wait a minute.

05:08No, no, no, no.

05:10I trained for this.

05:11I trained for this.

05:12And he said, but then I had to understand the importance of my legs in these other games

05:19or in late game situations.

05:23That's going to be a tell-all, really, when you talk about the Knicks.

05:26The Knicks are playing well, right behind the Sevens.

05:29But the minutes, some of these guys are logging right now, 38, 40, 43, 44 in the second half

05:38of the season, in the playoffs.

05:41Last year, they didn't have anything.

05:44So I don't, I don't look at the, I looked at that game yesterday, it was a really good

05:48game.

05:49And there was a coming out party for me watching Thompson.

05:52He was athletic, he's strong, he's physical.

05:57He did a lot of things, Brown and Tatum, Brown in the second half, Tatum in the second half

06:04were really good.

06:05But who was really good for most of that game, if he hadn't been foul difficulty, probably

06:09was Porzingis.

06:11Porzingis, when he picked up that fourth and then the fifth foul, he was relegated to a

06:15guy who could just stand under the basket with his arms up in the air.

06:20So Luke played well, the opportunities for them were there to win that basketball game.

06:26But to see the Selvins now, what they're doing at home and not playing well in their record

06:32at home, comparably to what they do on the road, it's a team that goes out on the road

06:39and maybe they don't need, I don't, they're looking at maybe they don't need the home

06:42court advantage because you think of what happened, they went out, they went out one

06:46time West, they came back three and one, they go out this time out West, they come back

06:51there and what now, likely when they lost to Lakers, I was, you know, I was full of

06:55shit then looking at that game, but you know, anything else, what they did, I think they

07:00shot themselves in the foot with the first game, they, the second game they played out

07:05there against Clippers, Clippers had nobody playing, nobody playing.

07:10And the Celtics essentially had a fur ball and almost cost that game, almost costed cost

07:17it up.

07:18And then they had to play Lakers the second out back to back with Tatum and Brown and

07:22those guys logged a big minutes.

07:24And I think that cost them.

07:26Yeah.

07:27Well, Max, how about the way that trip ended?

07:29I thought Chris Dasporzinga is reminding us, I mean, maybe we already knew, but just how

07:33dominant he can be one and two, how the Celtics look completely different when he's playing

07:37at that level.

07:38Now look at the box score here, we've got seven, eight attempts.

07:41I mean, granted he wasn't followed trouble, you know, in that fourth quarter, which to

07:44me, I understood why when they had the file to give, okay, you pull them, you get the

07:48file in, but they want to put them back in.

07:50So, you know, to Sharad's point, I was surprised to Cornette back out there, but the final

07:54play of regulation.

07:55But then again, just overall, I feel like you got to get away to make sure that Porzingis

08:00gets his touches, gets his attempts up because man, he's a mismatch.

08:04He always is.

08:05And even if he's not the one taking the shot, he creates a lot of the offense because of

08:08his ability to obviously one, stretch the floor and two, you know, his post moves.

08:13A lot of teams just can't match up with it.

08:15What we'll say is the continuity of the scene, continuity, and I will agree with a Sharad

08:21in the fact that continuity of this team is based on availability, the guys, the pieces

08:28they have, they're like having a glove and having one finger out or, you know, or, you

08:33know, running down the street, your laces are untied.

08:37They have to have, as you're saying, all hands on deck if they're thinking about winning

08:42a next championship.

08:44And I think they can.

08:46We've seen glimpses where this team has been so dominant, but then they're those, those

08:50nights that they seem like they're kind of disinterested.

08:55And that's disappointing when you talk about a championship team.

08:58Yeah.

08:59And that's the thing that I, that kind of worries, concerns, bothers me about them is

09:04that they, they really do seem to have those lulls where they just don't seem ready and

09:09activated to kick somebody ass.

09:11It's like they feel, they feel as though, you know what?

09:13Yeah, we may lose a couple of games, but we're going to be ready to come April and May.

09:17And it's, it's to me, it's that championship hangover that a lot of teams go through.

09:21And to be very frank and candid, it seems more prevalent, the further removed we get

09:26from the era when you had teams that had a certain dynasty-like quality about them.

09:32It's almost as if they win that championship and it's like, yeah, it's great that we got

09:35a championship.

09:36Let's try to get another one.

09:37Oh, well, you know, if we don't get it, then we just don't get it.

09:40And that's, that's some bullshit.

09:43When you are built the way this Celtics team is, you, your mindset should be that in the

09:47next five years, we need to get at least two more chips, at least two more chips.

09:52I love that.

09:53I was, I was on the elevator and I was about to go on the elevator and I had my phone in

09:57my hand and Brad Stevens walks by and he said, and he asked me, he said, are you looking

10:02for a defensive place that we had last night?

10:05Brad with the jokes.

10:08He said, you won't, you won't find them.

10:11I was like, damn, Brad, come on.

10:14Brad with the jokes.

10:17Now, if you're Brad, where are you?

10:21Yeah.

10:22Are you at the point where, you know, you think that you might need another veteran

10:26out there that can score buckets?

10:29Cause the one guy that I talked about that you had, I think is a bucket getter.

10:35I'm surprised at Southern to let him get away was, was Lonnie Walker.

10:40Lonnie Walker, man, that dude can play, get you a bucket.

10:43He can, he can defend at a high level.

10:46Is that the guy you go back to Europe and snatch him and bring him back into the fold?

10:52Is that the guy Jose Brissette who gave up a guarantee?

10:57Yeah.

10:58I know you're going, I knew what you're going to do.

11:00Two million, three million dollars.

11:05Listen, as much as Jose Brissette means to me and the alumni association,

11:11my task is getting Lonnie Walker.

11:14I'm getting Lonnie Walker if I want to get a chip because here's the,

11:17this is the thing about Lonnie Walker that I don't think people really understand.

11:20If Lonnie Walker were on this team right now, Sam Houser could take all the time

11:25he need to get that back.

11:27Sam, you can relax, get your back right.

11:30We're going to let Lonnie Walker go to work for about a good week and a half.

11:34When I think about the potential that Lonnie Walker could have had on this team

11:37if they kept him, it reminds me of the potential that this little fella

11:40by the name of Isaiah Thomas had when Marcus Smart got hurt

11:43and how when he got a chance to roll a little bit, they realized he's pretty good.

11:48And then when he kept rolling, he was really, really good.

11:52And when the injured player came back, we welcome you back,

11:57but your role is different.

11:59Changing times, changing roles.

12:03No, your job has been repurposed.

12:08Your job has been repurposed.

12:10You still have a purpose.

12:11It's just not the same as it used to be.

12:13And I do believe that Lonnie Walker would have given him that dynamic

12:16because now all of a sudden, starting five is what it is.

12:20And now you've got some firepower off that bench that isn't named Peyton Pritchard.

12:24And I think Peyton Pritchard, as the scouting report has evolved

12:28on how to deal with him, if you add another guy like Lonnie Walker

12:32to the mix who can score off the dribble, who can score from the perimeter,

12:35who can do a lot of different ways.

12:37He can get to the basket and finish and score.

12:40Oh, my.

12:41Your scouting report just got blown up because now you've got to go back

12:45to plan B with Pritchard, which means that he's going to be hitting the deep bombs.

12:49And you've got this other cat who can get you some buckets.

12:53Yeah.

12:54I remember that.

12:55I remember.

12:56I understand the money dynamic of it because the Celtics,

13:00I mean, give them credit.

13:02What they're doing or what they did with Lonnie Walker was not being cheap

13:05because when you look at the contracts that they have signed,

13:08they are anything but cheap.

13:11However, there's a cost to win the championship.

13:14And if that one piece can get you a little bit closer to getting a second chip,

13:20you've got to eat that.

13:22You've got to eat that cost, especially when you look at the landscape

13:25of the NBA now where so many teams are better than they were a year before

13:29and your competition has gotten better.

13:31And to Max's point earlier, as much as New York is feeling good about itself

13:37right now, you can see the wheels aren't falling off,

13:41but as I'm looking at that tread, it's getting a little thinner.

13:45And for those of us who have, you know,

13:48we have rocked and rolled with our ride till the wheels fall off,

13:51they don't just fall off.

13:53The tread blows up.

13:56The tires are going to blow up because you've been riding on it.

13:59You have been riding those wheels till you can't ride them no more.

14:03And that's what the Knicks do.

14:04I mean,

14:05they got more players in the top 10 minutes played than any other team in the

14:08NBA.

14:09That's what they do.

14:10I remember my tire doing exactly what you said now.

14:15Riding down the street.

14:18Exactly.

14:19Exactly.

14:20What the hell is that?

14:21And I get out and have my tire.

14:24The tire looked just like I had.

14:26I had to pull the thread off the rest of the tire to get home.

14:31So, so yeah, I think that they, they have to think about it.

14:35And as Brad committed to this team,

14:38to the personnel that are there,

14:41you want a championship with these guys,

14:44but here's a radar backstage.

14:47You never fall in love with the product.

14:51You always look to make it better.

14:55So I love Hauser.

14:58I love Pritchett.

14:59I love Al.

15:02That bench group.

15:03You have pores.

15:04When you look at Luke coming off.

15:06Right.

15:07Give me another.

15:09Guy who is a score like that.

15:11Who's a bucket getter.

15:12Monty Walker is a bucket getter.

15:15So to have him in the phone to me would be really cool.

15:18If you would think that if you were another card that could be played.

15:22And to me again, just.

15:25Just a, just a jumpstart for this team.

15:28Because right now I think that I think they're cruising.

15:30They're on cruise.

15:32They will play well against the Clippers.

15:36And then all of a sudden just said, eh, not interested in more.

15:39We'll make a couple of mistakes.

15:41Then they go to Dallas.

15:42And they pretty much smoke Dallas while they're there.

15:45So three games on the road trip.

15:47You cannot tell me this team is that good on the road.

15:51And then they lose their focus.

15:52Once they come back home to some teams that are inferior.

15:56And we'll see what happens tomorrow night.

15:58When they play against a team like Chicago, a team that they should be.

16:01Then you go from here.

16:02You got new Orleans.

16:03Then you got Philly.

16:05And then you got the big one.

16:07I don't see that swagger that they had before.

16:11I think right now they said.

16:12Yeah.

16:13It's always funny.

16:15When you bring that up,

16:16you're like, well,

16:18I mean,

16:19I was like,

16:20I was just like,

16:21I was like,

16:22I was like,

16:23I was like,

16:24I was like,

16:25I was like,

16:26I was like,

16:27I was like,

16:28I was like,

16:29I was like,

16:30I was like,

16:31right now, big shit. It's always funny when you bring that attire over and the cash just

16:37gives you that look like, man, he was a thousand miles away. I mean, you should have, I'm surprised

16:41you made it this far to give you that look like that ball is my head. Look, getting your,

16:49getting your tire doing like this. Yeah. He has a, the way it does, he has a penny in his hand

16:53and going, Oh, look at your thread right now. That penny is like, there's your thread right

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18:26run your game. All right. Before we talk about Jimmy, uh, you talked about it briefly, Max,

18:30about Jason Tatum going scoreless in the first, what do you, what do you think was the cause of

18:34that? I mean, obviously the, the Houston Rockets, I mean, one through five, these guys defend at a

18:37high level, but to see it play out the way it did, what would you, what do you think was

18:41it wasn't playing out to that high of a level where they were that good defensively.

18:47It just that he missed a bunch of shots. They normally wouldn't make

18:51any start to. And the thing about him is he starts to press and you can tell when he presses,

18:58then he gets a little frustrated. And then the biggest thing he has to get over

19:02when he gets fouled and he doesn't get a call, get your ass back. Right.

19:10You're doing that a lot back in the play, or he'll go just whack a guy in the head.

19:15And then you get a, uh, delay, you get a breakaway or whatever they call it there.

19:22So he has to understand who he is and him and Brown Brown. I think they follow just as well

19:30because of his persona, quiet assassin, but Tatum right now is especially your lead dog.

19:37And if he is not doing all those things, those little things to win you games,

19:42then they're going to lose some share of a share of those games.

19:46Yeah. Tatum to me looks like he's trying to battle some mental fatigue right now,

19:51because the thing that I've noticed through the years with players is that when they get

19:55to that point where they're just not as locked in mentally as they want to be,

19:58just because physically and mentally, there's like a beat down a little bit.

20:01It shouldn't take shortcuts, the path of least resistance. And for a guy that gets buckets,

20:05what's the path of least resistance? Shoot all them damn threes. Tatum could get downhill and

20:10finish at the rim with the best of them at his size. And when I see him opening games,

20:15take it three after three, after three, that tells me that, you know, like he ain't trying to,

20:19to, to be dominant in a sense that I'm going to take what the defense gives me.

20:25I'm going to take the path of least resistance. And if I hit one or two of these threes,

20:28then I'm good. And if I don't, I'm just going to keep shooting them. Uh, and again,

20:32Houston obviously trying to minimize his impact was part of the game plan, but Tatum

20:37aided that process by simply taking, you know, just taking a path of least resistance,

20:42which is jacket threes. Well, I'm I'm going to go old school here and go with you. Hey,

20:47Sherrod, where's Joe Sway at? Is he in the club? Cause they keep blinking the damn.

20:52Yeah. I don't know what that was. I don't know. I mean,

20:57he went from rock to wifi to Brock. He's like, there's always something going on.

21:03So you just wait, looking at the lights and like, like, you know, like you go to,

21:12are they going to bring you some lemon pepper wings in a minute?

21:15It's still blinking the lights on you go. Oh, she's this time to go, you know,

21:18or last waitress has popped up out of here.

21:23Lou way. It was a pop on a scene with some lemon pepper wings.

21:26Baby with the wings, the wigs at Joe Sway.

21:30Cause that's where you did tell me that you would, uh, you know, I'm going to let it out.

21:36You know, you did tell me you were a Hooters one day and, you know, out there.

21:41Oh, Bobby Manning can go at me and going,

21:49and you go on like this, who is it? Who, what's his name? Oh, Cedric Maxwell.

21:57How rank I ain't rank it. I didn't even know what the hell was going on. But,

22:01Oh, I think you were there. He's like, should I say it Joe Sway? I'm like, man, we live man.

22:09He's just left you out to dry.

22:11I thought you were mentioning the lemon pepper wings from another spot, but anyways, I digress.

22:16All right. Jimmy Butler talk now, because, uh, from the report, it seems like it wasn't a big

22:23fan, or at least this was the, the, the breaking point for Jimmy finding out he's going to come

22:26off the bench after serving a two game suspension because he didn't make it to the plane on time.

22:30After those guys got trapped down in a new Orleans, which was crazy, by the way,

22:33and you weren't looking like looking like Boston. I thought, I thought, okay, see,

22:36got it bad with the snow, but man, New Orleans got it worse. And, uh, he was late,

22:40got suspended for a second time at the server. What was it? A six game suspension. The first time,

22:45uh, this time the two game suspension, he comes back, doesn't even make it after shoot around

22:50because he said what coming off the bench, why I have never walked off suspended indefinitely.

22:56And now according to, uh, Sean's latest report is the asking price has gone down.

23:01The golden state Warriors have thrown their name in the ring in a sense of trying to, uh, to put

23:06together a deal. There's always been reports about the Phoenix sun trying to do the same thing, but

23:10looking for a third team to get involved. How do you see this thing playing out as we're about a

23:15week away or so from the, uh, NBA trade deadline? I wouldn't touch it. I wouldn't touch Jimmy Butler

23:23at all. And here's why, here's why, because if I'm going to acquire him, he has done nothing

23:31to remind me of playoff Jimmy. Uh, I don't know what I'm getting to me that the smart play for

23:36Jimmy Butler and all this is, you know, when you made it clear that you'd want to find somewhere

23:41that can bring you joy and all that other nonsense, that's fine. Well, here's the thing.

23:47If you, if you're going to ruin your mouth, you need to run up and down that court.

23:51You need to remind people why you are that dude that whenever the Celtics look at their playoff

23:57periods and they see that Miami might be one of the teams that they, damn, seriously, do we got

24:01to deal with that again? Jimmy Butler is that dude, but here's the thing. Jimmy Butler was that

24:08dude. I don't know if he's that dude anymore because I haven't seen him out there to validate

24:12or reinforce that. And if you're golden state, that is a major roll of the dice because you

24:18better believe that golden state is going to give up at least one player that they don't want to

24:23give up in that deal. And that's going to be the one player that's going to go to Miami. It's going

24:27to fit into that heat culture and play hard and play and do all the things and make them a scrappy

24:32ass team. He may not be the future face of their franchise because they got that with BAM and hero,

24:37but he could be that third piece that makes them competitive and give somebody in the first round

24:41some fits. Meanwhile, golden state, you might get playoff, Jimmy hell, you may not even get to the

24:47playoffs to get playoff, Jimmy. And then where you at, you just put invested $50 million in

24:52some changes to a cat. He's not going to go there unless you give him some type of

24:56weakness and you're going to give him an extension. And yeah, you got to understand something. This

25:01dude wants to get paid. Like he's 28 year old Jimmy Butler. That dude is gone. That dude ain't

25:09giving you that dude is in your text. When I do an excellent episode, you'd be hanging out

25:17with these soccer players too much. They try and get that kind of money. I am doing my Google search

25:22on Jimmy Butler. I can find 28 year old Jimmy. If I'm going to see the heat play that dude ain't

25:27there. That dude is a, a digital memory. He's not, he's not that good anymore. And again,

25:33can he help a team? Well, I think, I think, I think he's good enough. I think he's good enough.

25:40Yeah. He's not going to carry you the way you're saying that's, and that's just human nature from,

25:45from all of us. But hell, did we think LeBron James would still be playing like this now?

25:51But you know what? LeBron has never had a period where you questioned whether he could do, he's

25:56had games and he's had maybe a three, four, five day stretch, but there's never been a significant

26:01period of time where just like, I don't know LeBron guy anymore. Because the minute you even

26:05have that as a fleeting thought, that brother go out there and get you 28, 12, and seven.

26:09And he usually does it against somebody like Wimby or he does it with someone like Taylor.

26:13Somebody who, because of who he's doing it against, reminds you that damn, he still,

26:18he still got that in him. Well, let me ask you, let me ask you this Ken,

26:22and you know, I love looking at people's faces and you and Joe can his son play in the NBA?

26:27No, I'm going to say it. I'm going to say the, I'm going to say the loud part that Jalen Brown

26:32should have said out loud when he had the opportunity. No, no. And Max, and here's the,

26:37this is why you don't have to just read our lips. We'll just stay with the mics on.

26:40Hey, listen, this is Truth Teller Tuesday. So let's just keep it 100. All right.

26:45When you were playing, what we do is what we do when you are in the G league and you are a

26:50legitimate NBA prospect, there's a level of dominance that you should be playing at. When I,

26:56when I watch you play, I should be able to signal you out. Not because of necessarily

27:01all the points you score, but because of the way you are simply playing at a different speed,

27:06a different gear, a different, there's a different way that you move and groove

27:10that sets you apart. And even when you put up big numbers, like I look at a,

27:14what's his name? A young fellow from Alabama that, that the Celtics have.

27:19Big numbers all the time. But when you, yeah. But you look at the people that he's playing

27:23behind with the Celtics, you ain't beating Peyton Pritchard out. You damn sure he beating,

27:27you know, Drew Holiday out. You're not beating Derrick White out. So he's a guy that's done

27:31some things that, man, I sure would like to see what he can do at the next level,

27:34but that shot, that shot is not going to happen. Now flip over to Bronny. Who the hell do you got

27:39to beat out in LA? You ain't got, I mean, your daddy already got you on a squad. So you're good.

27:48You have, I mean, you have the clearest, easy path to play that any late second round pick

27:55has ever had. All you have to do is be an above, a slightly above average

28:01entry-level NBA player. And you can't do that because partly, partly because I just don't,

28:06I just think that his talent has not had enough time to develop. I think if he, if he, if he

28:13had another year or two of college, I think, I think he would be a solid NBA player, but he's

28:19just not ready. And the Lakers have not done him any favors by putting him on this platform in a

28:25major market like LA, where he, the pressure for him to, oh, wow. He's drinking right now.

28:35Facts. Listen, you talk that, I'm about to go over there and help you with that bottle.

28:41But he's just, listen, that's some good stuff. I think, I hope that Bronny gets an opportunity to

28:46develop because he's just not ready to play. Well, first of all, he's an odd size. He's an

28:51odd size. He's only, he's 6'1". And they, they, and they, they wanted him out on the floor.

28:59He's about 6'1". He doesn't have over the top athleticism. He doesn't have, does not know.

29:06I'm with you, but that was a, that, that post he had. I was, I had them jets. You can't even

29:11compare. And so if you were 6'1", you gotta be one, 6'1 and a half, you gotta be extraordinary

29:19shooter or have an amazing quickness or your basketball IQ has to be absolutely amazing.

29:28Or you know what? You got to be a legitimate dog among dogs like Avery Bradley was. Avery Bradley

29:34was not, did not have, other than he had really good wingspan. He did have that going for him.

29:39But more than that, Avery Bradley had that, I am a dog and I am going to dog your ass

29:44every single centimeter on this court. If I'm Bronnie James, I am working my ass off to be

29:50an elite defender because that's literally the only way. How can you be an elite defender if

29:56you're 6'1 and a half? Who you calling? You gotta be, you, a lot of it has to, Max, it has to be

30:01mindset. You, you have to mentally be that. I don't care, mindset or not, you're 6'1 and a

30:05half in the league that most of these guys at that position are 6'4, 6'5, 6'7.

30:12Even, even Drew.

30:13Yeah, even Drew.

30:15You're, to be elite in this league physically, you gotta be stronger than some of these guys

30:21or quicker or, or, or, you know, what?

30:24There has to be some, yeah, you're right, there has to be.

30:26There's none of that.

30:27But this is going to be his college, I think, you know, whether it's three years, four years. I

30:31mean, I don't think it's going to be one of this thing, you know, this is the year that we talk

30:33about him in the G-League and all of a sudden he makes that.

30:35You know what, though? Just wait, this, this is when the rubber's going to hit the road and you're

30:38going to have good tread on these tires when this happens. The Lakers are going to, at some point,

30:44whether it's through the draft, through free agency, add a guard. It's going to be a guy in

30:49that 6'3-ish to 6'5, 6'6-ish range and they're going to be a, a guy that will be a starter for

30:56them. Bronny is going to get a trade camp. That dude is going to kick his ass, kick his ass.

31:03And then it's like, okay, you can't beat this rookie out. Okay. You can't beat this other guy.

31:09You're basically the fifth guard on a team that's only going to play two or three.

31:15Why are we paying you again?

31:17Should I, should I open it now?

31:19Yeah, man. Might as well.

31:21I mean, but that's, to me, that's the dilemma that Bronny is a young man.

31:26You're going to pay him though. You're going to pay him because his father's there. I don't care

31:30what we can read off of these and say that. He's going to be on that team. You're not,

31:38you're going to waste a, you're going to waste a roster spot. The roster spot with

31:44Bronny right now. And clearly, I mean, and I know he's always told everybody to shut up

31:50and listen to them and do this. But it's, dude, we, we know what talent is. We've seen,

31:58we know that we know what, what, you know, what guys are going to do.

32:02And we can look at a guy and going, you know, that guy, he can really,

32:05the, the, the biggest compliment I think I ever had, and it was a non-verbal compliment to me,

32:13but I just kind of looked over to the side, but was the first time I ever played in training camp

32:19and Jojo White was on the sideline. I made a couple of moves and he taps up, you can see him

32:27hit somebody and going, I'm going to play, play. And that, and that was like, that was all the

32:34valid. I needed at that time, like, yeah, you know, because you had to do who saw who's been

32:40around the game, who knew the game and could say, yeah, man. And not, and not give it and not giving

32:48it easily because I had earned it with my ability. I'm looking at his teammates, guys he played with.

32:56What do you think they're thinking? Because they're playing against him every day.

33:00Maybe there's something in his game that we ain't seen yet.

33:03No, you're playing against him every day right now. No, uh-uh, no.

33:07And the flip side, the flip side to that, Max, is like, I think about a guy like Darko Milicic

33:13when he came to Detroit. And I remember talking with Rasheed Wallace and Antonio

33:17McDyess and Ben Wallace. And I was like, hey man, number two pick. And they was kind of like,

33:23yeah, I know, right? Number two pick. And when people, people were wondering like,

33:28why isn't he playing? And one of those players who I'm still cool with to this day was just like,

33:34if you saw what we did in practice, you would totally understand why he ain't playing.

33:39And back then, Larry Brown used to let us watch a decent amount of practice from time to time.

33:44And in the practices that I got a chance to watch, I knew exactly why he wasn't playing.

33:48He was getting his ass kicked by everyone on that squad. And I'm gonna throw Eldon Campbell

33:52in the mix too. Eldon, at the end of the Eldon, at the end of the Eldon Campbell era,

33:58he was also getting that ass with Darko. We're not talking about like young with the Los Angeles

34:04Lakers, Eldon Campbell, because that dude was pretty good. He was all right. Even the Hornets,

34:09Eldon. Even the Hornets, Eldon. The Eldon Campbell in Detroit, he was just basically

34:14finishing out the ride and he was still giving Darko the business in practice. And that to me

34:19was like, okay, now I understand why, even though this guy was a high pick, they are about winning

34:26and they don't give a damn where you were drafted. They trying to win games.

34:29And that to me is a concern with Bronny. I don't feel as though they are positioning him in any

34:37way that's going to work out for him because they're putting him in a lose-lose situation.

34:41If you struggle, then you're going to be seen a certain way. If they don't play you,

34:46you're going to be seen in a certain way. And both of those, neither one of those ways is a good one.

34:51So to me, he, Bronny can't win no matter what he does. The only way that he could come out of this

34:57all right, is if he outperforms everyone's expectations. And based on what I've seen,

35:03based on what I've told, based on the fact that not even our good friend, Danny Age, who you know,

35:08loves to throw ointment in the game when he can, did not want to draft him in the second round.

35:15Cause you know, Danny had to think if I draft him, the Lakers are going to want to have to

35:19deal with me. I'm going to give me an extra pick on it because y'all know that's how Danny roll,

35:23which I love. I respect the hell out of Danny for that. He is the ultimate deal maker. And even he

35:29was like, nah, we good. We good. And we ain't talking about Danny in Boston. We talking about

35:37Danny in Utah. We good. I'm just, I just, I feel bad for the kid because I just think that he's

35:47been put in a situation that he doesn't deserve to be in. Now, his younger brother, who's coming

35:52up the pipeline. Now, I'm going to tell you right now, when he enters the draft, there ain't going

35:57to be no, well, you know, maybe we can get him to play. Oh, hell look, we want him to play for us.

36:01We'll give a damn what daddy bro. We're going to get her to play with us and he will, I think he

36:06will be a future first round pick because he's got that kind of upside to him. Bronnie, not so much.

36:13Yeah. He set the hoop all classic on fire, man. Over in my, uh, my, my old stomping grounds,

36:17Springfield college. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This episode of the century. Maxwell podcast is

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38:12time today. What time is it? Game time. All right. Last thing I'm going to say about Jimmy

38:15though. If you're the Phoenix suns, you're going to ride this roster out or you're going to try

38:19to put your head in there and try to get someone like Jimmy. How do you get him? How do you get

38:26him? How do you get him? You, you, you dangle a bill right there. You can't do it. You can't do

38:32it because he's got the no trade clause, but he might take the no trade clause because he doesn't

38:38want to be, he probably sees himself out the door. But my thing is, even if he went to Miami,

38:47that the numbers kind of match up, he's not going to be in Miami. You got to have a third party,

38:54somebody who wants him. This is how this is going to work. It isn't going to be a straight

38:59up deal for bill. And, and, and, and, and in that way, it's, it's not going to happen.

39:05That won't happen. So you're going to have a third party. Who's going to be able to shift

39:09around that bill goes someplace else. And then something else happens and something else happens,

39:14but that's not what Miami wants. Miami is more prone that look, we'll take an inspired contract

39:20and we'll take some picks because we want to get better because we have BAM and we have some young

39:26kids and some young talent that we want to explore, but they're not, I just wonder if a team

39:34like Oklahoma city, who's got a, just a treasure trove of picks has a player that they kind of

39:40like between Miami and Phoenix that they would like to add. And they can make, they, and they

39:45can be that third team because they can put picks in the train. They can put, you know,

39:50lots of different options in there or something like that. Like a bench guy, you know? Yeah.

39:56Cause then I got to tell someone like Jimmy, but yeah, something like that.

39:59They don't want Jimmy, they don't want bill, but they might want, you know you know, a minor type

40:04player that could be part of their rotation and just make them deeper. I could see them doing

40:09something like that and I could see that helping get a deal done. But you know, Jimmy has really

40:15sunk Jimmy's value. And for someone who has made being a businessman while being a basketball

40:22player, kind of his thing, you remember in the bubble with the coffee stuff and all that,

40:25I thought that was some genius shit on Jimmy's part. He was promoting his shit while playing

40:30basketball, getting to the bubble finals, much respect to him for that. But what he's doing now

40:37is just dumb business. I mean, if you want to generate interest in you, Jimmy Butler, LLC,

40:44you need to actually give people a sense of what they're getting. And you bitching about coming off

40:49the bench, even though you've been suspended, you miss a team plays, you talk about, I need to be

40:54somewhere where I can find my joy, which by the way, when was the last time anyone ever said they

41:00could not find joy in Miami? When has someone, what has someone been like knocking on the door?

41:07I'll be in Miami and get me out of here.

41:11Add on that with $50 million, another $50 million on your contract. So if you can't be happy there,

41:23where are you going to be happy at the end of the day?

41:27The Celtics made him quit, man. I don't know. I don't want to just say it. I don't want to say

41:31it's all about the Celtics, but like it didn't help. I mean, the Celtics, it was like Celtics

41:35heat. And all of a sudden they just, there's this gap that the heat just never caught up to.

41:39And I feel like he's like, you know what? I see the way this thing's going to end. But at this

41:41point, he's like, I'm willing to go anywhere else. And obviously he wants to probably be another

41:45competitor. But at this point, he's making it clear, like, cause even when he did play,

41:49he's putting up what? Six, seven attempts. He was just interested. You know, he was trying to let

41:52these guys know, Hey, I'm not playing here. He said he wants to now one place. Interesting to me

41:59would be, would be Houston. Yeah. What email though to get a couple of players from them,

42:08some draft choices for him to play with email, with that attitude, that style,

42:13those younger players they have right now, they need, they need some pieces.

42:20So that's an interesting place. I don't see too many other places that Jimmy Butler is going to

42:26land that he's going to be happy and Golden State. Well, not what they have now Houston though.

42:34I got to think long and hard about that. Cause the team that Houston has now,

42:39they going to be kind of nice for a while, but nice and real nice. They're not, they're not,

42:47they're not there yet. Brooks is not, Brooks is not going to get 10, 10 trades every night. That's

42:54not, this is a bad shooting three-point team that went berserk against the Celtics. So, but then

43:01again, you add Jimmy and Jimmy's not a good three-point shooter either, but he is a big game

43:07player. He's a big game player. There's no question. No question. So lastly, guys, before we

43:12get up out of here, this broke about an hour before we hit record here. And it's a Darren Fox

43:17and Sacramento King says he wants out new report. He wants out of Sacramento. Man, I can't help but

43:22wonder if this has anything to do with the, the coaching situation, you know, uh, Christie taken

43:27over after the surprising firing and the way they went about it of, uh, of coach Brown. I mean,

43:34how do you guys like, are you surprised? First of all, about the trade request and two, I, any team

43:40at the top of your head that you think would be interested in someone like Fox? Here's the crazy

43:43part about Miami right now. Right. Exactly. They'd be all of a sudden Sacramento, Jimmy Butler,

43:49Darren Fox, there may be some traction, but this is the crazy part to me about all of what we're

43:53talking about. You got one dude in Miami. Who's got 50 million in his pocket. Now got 50 million

43:58coming next year. Who wants to leave? You got a dude in Sacramento who has finally been given a

44:04free reign to be that man. Your team is winning. You are now in a player situation and you want out.

44:12What does it look? What does it take for NBA players to be happy? This is my max. This is

44:17the kind of shit that pisses fans off. It makes them want to not be down with the NBA when you

44:24you've got players and situations that there's literally nothing for you to be

44:27bitching and moaning about or bitching and moaning about stuff that doesn't make sense.

44:32If you're an NBA player, you want to be the man you want to win. You want to get paid

44:36and all those things are happening. And you're like, but I want more.

44:40Well, here's the thing about it. That team is Sacramento wants to give him a max deal.

44:52So if you were him, what the hell are you doing? And the thing about it that, you know, about that

44:58city of Sacramento, it's a one horse pony, one trick pony. And the fact that you are the only

45:08professional game in that area. So people think you essentially walk on water. They got it. They

45:17got an owner of that team. And this is where it was crazy. Somebody told me they said he has a

45:22house in India, 28 stories. That's his house. It's an apartment building, 28 stories. How often do

45:33you see a room? So that's how much money this guy has. So it's not the money. He's just not happy.

45:43And the place he seemed like he would be happy would be Miami with Bam. But how do you get him

45:51there? Because if you're Sacramento, you're not touching Jimmy Butler. You're not bringing him in.

45:57You're not giving them another 50. You're not giving them another. And that's the holdup.

46:02Let me ask you a question. I understand that his days of getting those max deals, they're over.

46:09Would you consider flipping Dearing for Hero? I would do that deal.

46:15Oh, yeah. I would do it. I like literally the minute that deal was like put on the table,

46:20I'm snatching it off the table, find it, find it, my favorite red pin. And like, yes, let's make

46:26if you're Sacramento, why would you make that deal?

46:30To me, I think that might wind up if something like that were to materialize, I think whatever

46:35deal involves Jimmy Butler or Sacramento is going to have to be a three team deal. And it's going to

46:38have to be a team that's throwing some picks in there to sweeten that deal for someone like

46:43Sacramento, for example, who probably don't want to do that. But if you could get a guy like Hero

46:47and get you a couple of first round picks in the process to that deal becomes palatable.

46:53It's not your preferred choice of doing this because preferred is to keep him at his toe.

46:59But if he if he was out, because you don't want you don't want Jimmy Butler 2.0 if you're

47:04Sacramento. So you need to get rid of him. Right, exactly. So and meanwhile, the rest of the Western

47:11Conference is like, phew, thank God that boy wouldn't be out. Shit. We good. They look like

47:17damn. Oklahoma City think like, all right, cool. Houston like that. Cool. Right.

47:25Shit. That's it, man. I just don't see how it all plays out between now and the trade deadline. But

47:30man, stay tuned. I think something's going to something's coming down a couple of trays here

47:34there. Prices for sure. We'll see what the Southerners do. Maybe some type of tweaks or

47:39some kind of signing. But either way, everyone's going to be paying attention. And Max got the

47:43bottle ready. He's ready to go back home to TD Garden to get a win against the Chicago Bulls.

47:51But of course, you already know, we'll be back next week. H. Rob Blakely, appreciate you checking

47:55in, man. Good to see our brothers. Absolutely. Stay off the pepper waves, man. That's all I'm

48:01saying. Oh, I'll try. Oh, damn. He is such a Maxwell. I'm just wait for vote. We'll see you

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