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00:00The Cedric Maxwell podcast is brought to you by Ice Picks and the Game Time app.

00:16All right, it's another episode of the Cedric Maxwell podcast.

00:22I'm Josue Pavone.

00:23He is, of course, Cedric Maxwell, but we're joined by Boston Globes Gary Washburn, one

00:28third of the big NBA three podcast here on CLNS Media.

00:32How you been, Gary?

00:33What a hell of a summer you have it, man.

00:35It's almost done.

00:36Yeah, everything's good.

00:37Yeah.

00:38I mean, it's been a lot going on, obviously the finals and then a few weeks later, just

00:44went to Paris for the Olympics and now there's been kind of relaxing, kicking back a little

00:49bit since before, you know, obviously things pick up again in late September, but yeah,

00:55everything is good.

00:56It's been an eventful summer.

00:59You know, it's short.

01:00I mean, we almost back to this whole thing again, but yeah, it's everything's been good

01:05and you know, I haven't caught up with Max, haven't seen Max kind of been on like low

01:11profile tips.

01:12So I'm definitely eager to learn what's going on with Max.

01:16Well, I ain't been doing nothing, brother.

01:18I'm just down here in Charlotte relaxing.

01:21When I hear about you being over in Paris, how did me and Josue get on that ticket, man?

01:26You know, you going to Paris?

01:28It wasn't like you were covering the Celtics or nothing, but you know.

01:31Right?

01:32That sounds like the greatest like summer for any NBA writer.

01:35You know, like you just like, oh yeah, it was, it was cool.

01:39It was all right.

01:40No, I worked out well.

01:41I was happy, man.

01:42Oui, oui.

01:43Oui, oui.

01:44Oui, oui, negro.

01:45Oui, oui, okay.

01:46You got no friend stories?

01:47You gotta give us something, man.

01:48Did you wear that hat?

01:49What's it?

01:50I'm not sure.

01:51Yeah, I'm not sure.

01:52But you know, it's, it's been great.

01:53man. Did you wear that that hat? What's it? What's it? I'm I'm

01:56oh hell. I'll put myself out there right now. What hat? You

02:00know what I'm talking about? It starts with a B. Yeah, the

02:05beret. That's it. Damn it. I should have looked that up

02:07before we started before we started this. You need some

02:09culture, dawg. Start with a B. I knew you knew what I was

02:14talking about but I was like, Gary's going to put, he's

02:16going to make me look even worse. It's about a beret. Well,

02:20Gary. Man, it's Boston. It's Boston Public School Education

02:23System, man. Before, before the charter schools. Yes, before

02:28the charter schools. Well, let's get down, man. It's a little

02:31bit about, you know, this we we've heard so much about the

02:35Olympics. We heard so much about you know, the basketball

02:39part of it but the blowback with Jason Tatum seems like

02:42everybody that sees me, the first thing they're saying is,

02:46they did your boy wrong. They did your boy wrong and I keep

02:49hearing that. Did you feel that over there? Did you talk to

02:53Tatum about you did, he got done wrong? Uh you know, I I

02:59had a brief conversation with Jason, Jason out there, a

03:01couple of them. Um and he was just confused. I think the

03:06whole level of confusion uh and there's a lot going on. I think

03:10with the roster and I think Kerr had his favorites and you

03:16know and that's not a bad thing. I don't I think it's

03:18bad coaching but he obviously had a real affinity for Devin

03:23Booker. Okay. Um he really liked the the adjustments that

03:28Devin made. Kind of changing his role from what he does in

03:31Phoenix which is primarily a score to being a defender. Kind

03:35of being that that that glue guy, Swiss army knife type of

03:39guy and Jason just never really got into a flow with team USA.

03:46It just he was thinking too much. He was trying to make

03:49moves. He he just didn't play in the flow. You can just tell

03:52he was not in a rhythm and is that Kerr's fault was at the

03:56playing time and I also think Jason just didn't play well.

03:59You know, his shot wasn't going down. He was afraid to shoot

04:04threes. One of his threes at the side of the backboard. One

04:08of his corner threes, you know, he did not play well.

04:11Obviously, we've been watching Jason since he was 19 years

04:15old and you can tell when Jason's going and you can tell

04:18when Jason's trying too hard or thinking and I think he was

04:22thinking um uh a little too much trying to trying to get

04:27in and uh and I think when you look at other guys like Anthony

04:30Edwards, Anthony Edwards, people will, well, he should

04:34have played like Anthony Edwards did the best. He shot

04:38like fifty-something percent from three. He shot. He was

04:42scoring. He was efficient. Devin Booker was efficient. If

04:45you look at the the shooting, Jason was not efficient and so

04:50do you blame Kerr for not giving him extended minutes to

04:53try to get himself out of it or do you say, hey, Jason, you

04:56just gotta play better because you're on a team filled with

05:00Hall of Famers and future Hall of Famers and if you don't step

05:03up, you're going to be right next to Halliburton on the

05:05bench which he was. He decided, I don't know what he had

05:09against Halliburton. You know, obviously, Halliburton's first

05:11Olympics but Jason was the second best player on team USA

05:15in 2021 in Tokyo behind Kevin Durant but I think once Durant

05:20came back from this injury, um Jason, Jason's minutes

05:26suffered. Obviously, he didn't play either game against

05:28Serbia. Uh I don't, I didn't understand it but I also

05:33thought Jason didn't help his case by not playing well at

05:36all either like that was a thing too. It wasn't like Jason

05:39was lighting it up. He wasn't. But while we and and you say

05:42that and it's like so many people are pissed off. I'm

05:44like, Steve Kerr's job was one thing. That was to win an

05:47Olympic medal and he he did that uh with the team that he

05:51had. I don't think that you know, you can look back and so

05:54slapping down on him. Everybody says, well, will this affect

05:58Tatum, you know, going into next year because there's going

06:01to be a lot of people going to be going at him because you

06:04didn't play. You didn't play but but what a season that

06:08young man had, you know, to win an uh NBA title, to get a

06:12gold medal, to get married, to have a have a new baby, and

06:17coming into a new season. It was, I mean, it was what's

06:20dreams is made of other than the fact he didn't play that

06:23much but everybody can't play in those situations. I don't

06:27care who you are and Steve Kerr, I thought kind of did

06:30what he needed to do and you know, we did what he needed to

06:33do because he won an Olympic medal. Now, tell me just how

06:36exciting it was over there when uh Steph Curry got going

06:40because that's crazy. I don't think I've ever seen anything

06:45like that before in my life. It was crazy because um you know,

06:50it was in Paris. Obviously, most of the fans were the fans

06:56were great in the sense of like you can tell that they love

07:01their home country and and France was getting all a lot of

07:04the but they also love NBA basketball. They love Lebron.

07:08They love Steph. They Durant. They they are very fond of the

07:12superstars of the NBA. So, whenever those guys did

07:15something, they weren't like they were booing. The only

07:17person they boo was Embiid because he didn't play for team

07:20France and and all that stuff but everybody else was kind of

07:23like they liked them. So, it turned from like France having

07:29a chance to win and coming close and then Steph going off

07:32and the crowd was like, well, this is history. We're going to

07:35cheer for this guy. So, the crowd got into it. I mean, it

07:39was a surreal atmosphere because you're like, okay,

07:42what's going to happen here and then Steph goes on his time,

07:46his tangent, just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, four to four

07:49and 2 minutes and 12 seconds and just carries him and it was

07:53like watching obviously a magician at work, a artist at

07:57work, however you want to put it. Uh just an artist just

08:02putting everything and then obviously that final one with

08:05two defenders and him just flipping it up there and you're

08:08like, oh my goodness. So, the fans were going crazy. Um they

08:12knew it was history being made. They knew that obviously the

08:16greatest shooter in the world is playing like the greatest

08:19shooter in the world. So, for me, I thought it was uh uh a

08:23tremendous, it was amazing atmosphere and even as the

08:27French fans were not booing, they were into it. They knew, I

08:29mean, I don't think they uh envision their team winning the

08:33gold medal in basketball but to see them play a good game, get

08:38into it and then all of a sudden, Steph goes nuts. That's

08:42that's that was uh surreal atmosphere. Yeah, I feel like

08:46he's saved the best for last man. The the gold medal game and

08:49the game leading into that. It was unreal to see him do that on

08:53that international stage for sure but to get back to uh what

08:56you're saying about Jason Tatum and I don't subscribe to this

08:59theory but I do want to ask you, do you think there's

09:01anything about what happened in 2024? You know, being out there

09:04in France that'll discourage him to do this again and I'm not

09:07saying as if like, oh, well, don't worry about it. You know,

09:09report saying that Steve Kerr is not going to be around. I

09:11mean, regardless, do you think he's going to be hesitant to to

09:14go back especially when it's going to be, you know, here in

09:16the US and and and LA? I don't think it'll be, I don't think,

09:21I think he'll deep, think deeply about it and I think

09:25obviously, we're talking about 4 years from now. 4 years from

09:28now, he could have an MVP. He could have another

09:31championship. His status will be considerably likely different

09:35in the NBA than it is now. Now, you know, people are

09:38questioning whether he's a top five player and I understand

09:41all that because he didn't show it amongst his peers like he

09:44didn't show I'm the best dude on the floor on any game that

09:48he played with team. He was just kind of blended in and you

09:52know, he's gotta, I would say, reprove himself a little bit.

09:55He should be fired up and do I think he got done wrong? Yeah,

09:59I think Kirk could have handled it a lot better. How? I think

10:03you gotta give him a chance to to to play. You can't, you

10:07can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you gotta give me a

10:14chance to play. You've made, you've made, you've got two of

10:17us already. You said, no, no, he wasn't good but there was

10:21other guys who weren't good. Steph wasn't good until the

10:24last two games. Steph got a chance. I mean, here's the

10:29points you make. You say, didn't shoot it well. No, he

10:32wasn't confident. He didn't have any swagger about it. Okay,

10:36wait a minute. I'm gonna put you in the game and let you

10:38play yourself out of it when in fact, your job is to win the

10:42Olympics. No, no, I agree with that but I think you put him in

10:45the games, Puerto Rico, you you you try to give him an

10:49opportunity to break out of that thing and it never

10:52happened and then, you know, and I and I I said, Tatum and

10:55then defensively, I thought Tatum could have brought a lot

10:58to the table too. It wasn't just shooting the ball. I

11:00thought Tatum could have given them versatility. I mean, they

11:03weren't good defensively against Serbia. You don't, you

11:06don't give him a shot there. Um they were allowing nothing but

11:09you know, they allowed fifteen three pointers in the first

11:12three quarters. I think, I mean, Serbia was shooting the

11:15lights out of the ball. The defense was terrible. You can't

11:18give him a shot there. Hey, Jason, get us a stop. Get us

11:22some rebounds. I thought he did other things well. Play

11:25defense, got some rebounds, a block shot, a steal and he did

11:28the other little things well. He just wasn't scoring the ball

11:31well. So, I do understand why he didn't play as many minutes.

11:35Um you know, but two DNPs, I thought you could have put him

11:39in there and gave him up, giving him an opportunity to

11:41play. Well, couldn't you put Halliburton in there? He

11:44could have done that too. I thought Halliburton brought

11:46something to the table too. I think as a coach, you have to

11:49make a decision about guys who are going to play and guys who

11:54aren't going to play and how effective your game plan is. I

11:57love Jason Taylor but in this game plan, he used the red. He

12:03made sure LeBron and this, what does this also do? It's a

12:06two-part questionnaire. What does this also do to LeBron

12:09James' legacy? My god, that man was like a machine. Yeah. I

12:14mean, it was crazy to see him at that age doing what he was

12:18able to do. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, he you just

12:25you you have to give him his props. Now, you wanna say he's

12:29better than Jordan. There's a debate there. Um you wanna say

12:32he's the greatest of all time for sure. He he could he could

12:35be that guy but just at age thirty-nine being the most

12:39energetic player on the floor, being unstoppable, getting to

12:42the rim, just kinda having that that dog that that that

12:46yeah, just that guy. Um you know, that was I just thought

12:50that was pretty tremendous that he gave his all and and and

12:54and you're like, well, he could never play in uh twenty-eight.

12:57Maybe he could. He'd be 43 years old. You never know. Oh,

13:01that's crazy. You put nothing past him. You can't put anything

13:04past this man at this point in his career. He has played 21

13:10years of just high-level basketball. That's never been

13:13done by George, by nobody in this league. You know, our

13:17friend Robert Parrish played 21 years. Kevin Willis. There's

13:20guys who's played 21 years. Vince Carter played 20 years

13:24but not at this level sustained level. At that level, you're

13:28talking about where Robert Parrish and Kevin Willis and

13:31guys like that. They were watchers. They weren't, they

13:34weren't driving the bus. LeBron James. That's what was so crazy

13:39for me to see. His overall persona, his strength, his I

13:43mean, the way he affected, I could see the players on the

13:46boat on the other teams being intimidated by LeBron James as

13:51if he was uh you know, twenty-four, twenty-five.

13:53Instead of going at this dude, they shied away from him and

13:58that was that was kind of it was baffling to me but I

14:02understand but I but he it's almost like he walked out there

14:06and he had a a gold suit around him. People were being

14:09aggressive. People were were pretty much showing homage to

14:14him and uh but he played in that way which was was

14:17fascinating to me. Yeah. I mean III think he is obviously just

14:24one of the top two all time. If you wanna put him uh uh uh I'm

14:29not gonna laugh anymore or say what the hell are you talking

14:31about if you say he's greater than Jordan although I think

14:34the cases are different a little bit but yeah, when you

14:37said top two, I'm like you you're a Jordan guy. I'm a

14:39Jordan guy too but yeah, I mean, how how how are how are

14:43things different now that you look at? I mean, he's the

14:47extended career that he's given the plan until no one's played

14:52at this level at age thirty-nine. No, but not

14:53Jordan. Even though Jordan averaged twenty points a game

14:56at 40 years old for the Wizards. People like people

14:58always wanna diss on the on the Jordan Wizards uh that era and

15:04always because they weren't good but Jordan averaged twenty

15:06points a game and he he he had like a fifty-five point game. I

15:10wanna say in his last year. They do. I mean, you know, so

15:14it wasn't like Jordan and Jordan had bad knee. His knees

15:17were were done. Uh he kinda he he he played with the Wizards

15:21as kind of a PR move because the nothing was nothing else

15:25was working in Washington and nothing has really worked since

15:28in Washington. For real. But if you're looking at like um

15:35overall resume besides the finals, you know, and and and

15:40and you know, you can go back. Can you blame LeBron for the

15:43Lakers not being successful uh over the last few years since

15:47the the the bubble championship? You can probably

15:50you can put that on some of that on him uh but in terms of

15:54sustained dominance in the game and still being a top ten

15:58player. Now, you want might wanna say, is he top five? You

16:02can probably argue that he's not right now. Top ten. Top

16:06ten. Top ten. Totally. Yeah. Can you put Yannis and you know,

16:12do you wanna put Anthony Edwards in there or whatever?

16:15Do you wanna put, you know, other guy? Are there other guys

16:17you you would say uh staff or whatever? You know, you can you

16:21can you can maybe push LeBron back to six or seven but that's

16:25about it. Like that's he's still in top ten bonafide

16:29player in the league at age thirty-nine and we'll see if

16:31this will catapult him into this season with the Lakers

16:34uh because obviously they need to win something. Um the the

16:38clock is ticking for that too bad. Huh? Too bad. Too bad.

16:42Alright. So. Max don't wanna see that. No. Max. Max, if you

16:45wanted to see another uh Celtics Lakers finals, he said,

16:47nah, I'm good. That's alright. Lakers. Lakers ain't gonna get

16:50there. Yeah. So. I'm just saying hypothetically, man.

16:53LeBron versus Tatum. There's a lot of stuff that would be fun,

16:56man. Well, just the fact that that level of dominance, you

17:00gotta give LeBron his props. You have to give him his credit.

17:04Um and you know, does he sell the whole thing? Put the king

17:09crown around his head? I might not do all that. Well, let's

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18:57know, just where I gotta ask you. So, Gary, what were some

18:59of your favorite things you did in Paris? Cuz this is one

19:02brothers wanna know like what was your favorite drink? What

19:05you had to eat? You know, is that you're that different

19:08brother. You know, like you that. Honestly. Okay, sorry. I

19:12heard that your wedding, you had, you know, a cookie, you

19:16know, a cookie and ice cream. Isn't that right? Thank you,

19:19Josue. Thank you, Josue. Josue. Something like that. Yeah. Oh,

19:24I I don't think people know. I I didn't get invited. I was

19:29there and you know. Damn it, Max. That's why Gary don't

19:32invite me to anything anymore. I'mma let it out. You know,

19:35Josue all of a sudden said, yo, man, where were you at? I'm

19:38like, oh my. Gary's wedding. I'm like, Gary's wedding. When

19:42did Gary get married? He just. Right there. I just stopped

19:46talking. Gary, I swear. I just stopped talking. He's like,

19:48you're looking at me like. Here I was. You ain't gonna answer

19:51my question? I thought it was a destination wedding. I'm like,

19:54so, where'd he get married? Oh, he he got he got married right

19:58down the street from you. I'm like, what? I see this brother

20:03in the south shore. And he gone. Oh, my bad. So, so, what

20:09were your favorite things to eat over in the, you know,

20:11Paris where you at? Some of the famous. I ain't gonna lie

20:14like like it's interesting like French is more French food.

20:20What I experienced cuz first 2 weeks, I spent in Lille which

20:24is a suburb which is where they played the first the the

20:29group play, you know, of the Olympics basketball and that

20:34was a really neat city. It was it was about 2 hours north of

20:38Paris. Really neat. Lots to do. Cool suburb. Downtown was

20:45popping in terms of like nice restaurants, train station,

20:49people just walk around like kind of what you would see

20:52with Paris but sort of like a smaller Paris. I didn't man. I

20:57mean, honestly, the food like there's a lot of pastries. If

21:02you love chocolate, that's the Paris the place to go. Cookies.

21:07Yeah, croissants, all that but a lot of cheese. Everything got

21:12cheese on it but I didn't have like this French meal like I

21:17ate a lot of I ate a lot of Asian food, a lot of different

21:21nationalities at the arena. Gary said, yo, Gary said, give

21:28me the, give me the combo play, man. Yeah. The spare ribs. Did

21:33you, did you, did you find Popeye's over there or

21:35something like that? Yeah, right. They got a KFC over

21:39there. Yup. Show did. Damn, Gary, you was homesick? Gary

21:44was homesick, man. Because the arena food, the arena food was

21:47like terrible. Like the arena food had this, they had this

21:51like really smashed down ham and cheese sandwich. It was

21:55like, no, I'm all set. Like grilled cheese, like something

21:59you make, you make and you put like the dude. So, you can make

22:01it the crib. Yeah. So, you put the iron on it to get the

22:05smashed. It was like, this is, this is what y'all offering?

22:09Man, one night I had French fries. Like Mr. Shuttlesworth

22:12and he got game. One night you had what? French fries and then

22:15it was like, I ain't eating this ham and cheese. Two orders

22:18of fries. So, and then the KFC. The fries weren't even popping.

22:22The fries weren't great. Pretty good. French fries and

22:25French. You gotta, they gotta land on that, right? They gotta

22:28hit that. So, uh the KFC was okay. They had like a lot of

22:33chicken tenders. It wasn't like I could order like a two-piece

22:37or original extra. They don't have like the extra crispy and

22:40all that. They have like, they had like uh tenders and

22:44sandwiches. So, it's a little different kind of KFC but it

22:47was KFC. So, I didn't eat like I had good food like went to

22:52some restaurants in Paris. It was good Thai food, Mexican uh

22:57that I went to a American spotlight. I didn't eat like

22:59this authentic one like I was eating escargot and and all

23:03that. No, no. I mean, I. What about what about the other uh

23:07Olympic events? Did you check anything out? I know you

23:09checked out that break dancing. No, I did not see I did I just

23:13not see your girl from Australia. Uh. Yeah, that was

23:16wild. That was crazy. You know what killed me? There's

23:21brothers. The kangaroo joint was wild. She's trolling. There's

23:26brothers out there who are like 60 years old who got used to

23:29get arrested and locked up for breaking and looking looking at

23:33this and be like, oh, this is what we're doing now. Like this

23:35is this is the event. First of all, y'all took 35 years extra

23:40years to have breaking. I couldn't, you know, like these

23:44old brothers. It's like I couldn't compete back then and

23:46now, right? Right. And that's what that's our sport. That's

23:49what we like. What the hell? Yeah, she ruined it for

23:52everyone, man. That'd be cool to have in LA. Now, it's not

23:55happening. They're going to bring it back. No. So, so which

23:58one did you see that you like another event that you like? I

24:01went to track and field. That was cool. Oh, man.

24:04Atmosphere. The stadium must have been crazy. Yeah, it was

24:07the track and field. I went to track and field. The rest, I

24:10just, I I watched nothing but basketball in person. I didn't

24:14really get a chance to go to a lot of events. Um you know, I

24:17was just watching everything in the front and you know, the TV

24:21in France was like, it was terrible because everything was

24:25in French. They had no. It's supposed to be Gary. It's

24:28supposed to be. Yeah, one English station, BBC. So, if

24:33you want to watch the news, it was that was that was that was

24:37in English. That was it. And they were fascinated with

24:40American um with American politics and news. So, when

24:45Biden stepped down, that was a huge. Oh, man. That must have

24:48been crazy for them, man. You know, and they had some German

24:51stations too uh on the television. So, I watched, you

24:54watched whatever Netflix because and then the Olympic

24:58channel only would show basically team France. So, if

25:01you didn't like team France, they were not showing anything

25:05like, you know, the 100 meters um between Noah like they

25:10weren't, they were showing if if there's a French dude in it

25:14or French athlete, they were showing it. If not, you had to,

25:18you had to try to watch it on your phone or something like

25:20that. So, I mean, it was a lot of just, it was a lot of, it

25:24was a lot of chilling in the room reading or watching

25:26Netflix. Um because French TV. Well, I'll tell you what. I'll

25:32I'll tell you what. Here in the States and I guess Josie

25:36might go along with me. He might not. If I don't see Snoop

25:40Dogg anymore in life, I'll be. Oh, man. You're tired of Snoop

25:45already. Josie, how many times have we seen? Yeah. Yeah, I

25:49read, I read somewhere he got up to about 16 million new

25:54followers. Global followers like brand, you know what I

25:57mean? Like this is. Yeah. I hate to say it Max but this he

26:00might he might be uh he might be popping up left and right in

26:03random spots when he within the next like year or so man. He's

26:06he's trending right now for sure. Globally trended. Yeah.

26:10I mean, I saw him. I did think it was random though Max. When

26:13he first, yeah, when I was like, yo, why is Snoop here?

26:15And then like. Every. He blew up. He was at swimming. He was

26:19at Equestria. He was at, he was uh, you know, went fencing. I

26:23mean, I'm like, damn. I mean, is anybody else in anybody else

26:27there? And uh, you know, it was just kind of crazy to see how

26:31that went and I was like, this is for my podcast. I gotta get

26:35a, a feel for it because like, seemed like he was bigger than

26:38most of the athletes who were there. For real. Yeah. Did you

26:42hear about um, did you hear about real quick? I just

26:44remembered right now. You hear about uh, Dr. Dre wants to,

26:47wants to do uh, he wants to participate in an archery in

26:50the next one. You saw that, huh? That's going to be, he

26:54should be doing shooting. Oh, no, no, no, no. I don't know if

27:01he can top my, my, my boy though. That dude that went

27:03viral, man. My man pulled up with his own pistol, man. That

27:06dude was an assassin. Yeah, I, I thought he might be black. He

27:09had his own pistol. No glasses. No, no armor. He had, he had his

27:14hand in his pocket. I know some brothers in the States is like,

27:18man, I can play that event.

27:22Tryouts, tryouts for the team USA. It's going to be wild in

27:26LA. What a phone number. What a phone number after I get

27:30called a tryout in LA. Wow. You know what I did like? You can

27:36bring your own gun. You can bring your own gun. That's

27:39going to be crazy. I tell you what I did like about France

27:42though. The fact that it was, the way it was, it seemed like

27:45it was culturally so, so good. It was like a lot of the French

27:50culture, the buildings, the stadium, everything was so,

27:54whereas I'm looking at this, this handoff to LA and that

27:59went like, it was like super, I mean, it was like LA, LA on the

28:03beach, which always seemed like, wow, that would seem like

28:06it's going to be too much. It's going to be interesting.

28:10They're trying to make it, they're trying to make LA no

28:12transport, no cars. That's going to work. No way. They're

28:18playing basketball at the new Clippers Arena. They're

28:21playing. I think they're still using the Coliseum for

28:24something. I feel like they have to, right? Because you

28:27have to use, you have to, you can't just have one or two

28:29venues, right? They're turning SoFi into the swimming, into

28:34swimming. The football stadium is going to be where

28:37swimming is. They're moving some stuff around. So, it

28:40should be interesting to see how it goes in LA. LA with no

28:44cars. Is that what you're saying? No car. That ain't

28:46going to work. How the hell is that going to happen? How can I

28:51get to the swap meet over in Crenshaw? He needs his car for

28:58that for sure. Oh, they got the, oh, you're going to tell me

29:01they got the train going over to the swap meet? First of all,

29:05for the tours. You don't take the transportation to LA is

29:11like, growing up, you, you was not going to get, you was not

29:16going to get no girl talking about, I'll beat you on the

29:18butt, on the, on the, on the, you a car, man. Anybody from LA

29:23can attest to this. Growing up, like, the bus was kind of like,

29:26like, you, the first thing you did when you got a piece of

29:30money is buy a car. You could not take, and I know Boston's

29:34got this train line. People do that. Oh, I'll take the green

29:37line to work. Oh no. That's the thing. That's why I hate. I

29:44hate when people complain about the team, man. Cause I'm like,

29:46yo, so many other major cities have it way worse than LA. So

29:51it would be interesting, but yeah, I mean, it was a great

29:54experience. I suggest anybody who can't cover it or go it's,

29:59you know, I'm just disappointed that Boston didn't really, I

30:03know there was, apparently it's going to be like a $10

30:06billion investment. I'm just, because it changes the

30:09complexion of your city. Like I think there'd have been a bunch

30:12of kids growing up now who would have seen that, been in

30:16that atmosphere. I was around, you know, aging myself in 84

30:22when the Olympics were in LA and I went to, believe it or

30:26not, I went to basketball. I was a third row and I, I mean,

30:30after you just go up and buy tickets, I saw the U.S. play

30:33France with Michael, you know, MJ and Ewing and all those

30:36guys. I went to two women's basketball games, uh, with

30:39Cheryl Miller and, and, you know, Lynette Woodard knows

30:43great players. And I went to a baseball game. I took one of

30:46the few things, uh, good memories. Honestly, not to be

30:51funny with my father was me. We went to an Olympic baseball

30:54game at Dodger stadium. Um, and that's still, that was 40 years

30:59ago. And I remember those days. And that's one of the events

31:02they've dropped, right? Yeah. They're bringing baseball back

31:06and put their, aren't they going to, I heard that they're

31:10going to drop the break dancing, the break dancing gone,

31:13man. I think they're bringing one. If you won the Olympic

31:16gold and break dancing, that was it. You got to wait for

31:20Australia, but they bring in lacrosse. I'm ruined it for

31:23everybody. I think lacrosse, cricket, softball, and

31:28baseball. And I think, I think something else, but I know

31:31cricket. Hey, we'll see how that goes. I mean, I ain't seen

31:36no us cricket team. Maybe there is one, um, softball. They're

31:39playing in Oklahoma city because they don't have the

31:42facilities in. So they're going to be playing all the way

31:45across the country. But I would suggest anybody try to get

31:49there. And I, I said, I'm disappointed that Boston

31:51didn't, um, quite honestly, they could be, cause it would

31:56have changed the complexion of the city, you know, you know,

31:59yeah, the traffic would have been crazy, but to have that

32:03event in your city and all those people from all over the

32:06world, just to see the, the international, the people, I

32:10mean, you know, Max, it was, it was just to see, like,

32:12honestly, the journalists from Africa, I know the cover and

32:15they're wearing their color, the colors of their country.

32:18And it's like moving to see, were you wearing the colors of

32:20your country? I was not wearing the colors of our country.

32:23No, like I know, I was talking to our friend, I was talking

32:33to one person. You did not represent one. You said you

32:37went up there, you didn't eat any French food. Then you get

32:40up there and you said, well, I didn't wear no USA jacket. A

32:44lot of journalists from the other countries wear stuff

32:47representing their country. Like we just don't do that. We

32:52don't U.S. U.S. food. Like we don't be, we don't be, we don't

32:57be claiming that's true because everybody knows, man. Everybody

33:00knows, honestly. And I know, I know both of y'all can feel me

33:03on that. When you in another country, people just know you

33:06from America.

33:08You wouldn't see it with a grill, man. Break out with a

33:11damn grill.

33:16That's a dead giveaway.

33:17But I was like, the thing was, it was when you see all the

33:22anthems and you see all the other athletes, the hoopers,

33:26and they sing in their anthems, and it's all awesome. And then

33:30the United States starts to go better. All the U.S. players

33:34like,

33:40because we still use the damn hearing the thing. We, we don't

33:43like, we need to revamp maybe the anthem a little bit because

33:46other anthems, like I was bobbing my head, like the

33:49Serbian anthem, Serbian anthem kind of buffing. And the French

33:54anthem and just see them come around and sing. And we just

33:57don't have that type of like patriotism. So, but you would

34:01see other countries wearing up their country, like Finland and

34:05you know, like, yeah, like they repping. We don't really do

34:09that in the States, but let's tie this in.

34:12It's because we got, we got too used to it, man.

34:15Since we were kids, you got to stand up and look at the flag.

34:20If we'd have Marvin Gaye sing every anthem, we would have

34:24been, that would have been the official anthem.

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36:16What time is it? Game Time. Let me, let me, we're gonna tie

36:20something in here that we did. We had Ice Cube on. Yeah, we

36:24did. We talked about, we talked about a couple of things. First

36:28of all, I said, you know, when he, I saw him in Boston and so

36:32I walked up to him and he looked at me and he went,

36:35**** cornbread. But we, but we talked to him about the, the

36:42big three and then we talked about, about Olympic three-on-

36:46three basketball. Did you get a chance to see any of the

36:49three-on-three? And we talked to Ice Cube because Ice Cube

36:53wanted to, his team, he wanted his championship team to

36:56challenge the Olympic championship team. Yeah, but

36:58never lose. He was kinda kicked to the waist that they

37:00wouldn't do it but he was a. Yeah, we, first of all, like

37:04Max, like, that, I don't know if y'all, have y'all watched

37:07the three-on-three? That's nonstop, like, that is no, like,

37:11that is, like, you gotta be in mad shape and people think that

37:14you just, it's three big Husky brothers, like, at the park,

37:17like, it used to be posted up, you know, no, no, no, like, you

37:23don't stop. The games are 15 minutes like that, like that,

37:28we've gotta really, and I, I, it's embarrassing for the US to

37:32be terrible and we lost one of them games. We lost it in the

37:35gold medal team, twenty-one to six. Like, that was the final

37:39score. But let me ask you, you think we're still not best

37:42players over? No. One, you got, like, this is what I learned

37:48about it. You have to be in their circuit. Like, you gotta

37:51tour all over the world. So, you could get maybe retired

37:55players who are like or let's say a guy from the G League or

37:59something who's like, you know what? I wanna give up a season

38:01in the G League before the Olympics and I wanna go cuz

38:05they play in the Netherlands. They play in Mongolia. They

38:08play in like three on three hoop outside of United States is

38:12big. Like, it's kind of great. Like, like, I don't know what

38:15we were doing but we just was chilling and all the other

38:19countries was catching up and playing three on three ball. So,

38:22like, we're losing to like Spain and like, you know, we're

38:26losing. It's like a recreational thing out here.

38:28That's true. The Netherlands won the gold. Like, like, well,

38:33now he wants to. Like, yes, we, just when we can't get three

38:37brothers from Boston.

38:41Like, I couldn't believe it. It needs to be like a national

38:46tournament and then they just form the the the best three out

38:49of that or something like that. Yeah. International tour. So,

38:53you can't the what the United States can't do is get three

38:57NBA dudes in 2027. Like, okay, we're gonna get Anthony

39:00Edwards. We're gonna get Cooper or not. People are not in the

39:03Olympic team. Like, we're gonna get three like good NBA

39:08players and just put them on three on three because they

39:11haven't toured. They don't have the points. So, that's the

39:14thing. It would take like these players to have to literally

39:18give up a season and go on this tour to earn the points to be

39:22able to qualify to play. So, the guys who that were over

39:26there, they qualified to play. Like, Jimmer for that. Yes,

39:28they they were in the they were in the circuit. Oh. So, that's

39:33the thing. Um so, the Netherlands, I'm sure Ice Cube

39:37said, did accept but FIBA stepped in and said, it was

39:40y'all didn't give us enough advance notice or whatever.

39:42Right. So, so in response to that, he wants to do an

39:46international tournament in like January with the the big

39:50three all-stars going up against, you know, whether

39:52it's the Netherlands, pick, he's he's said about four or

39:54five countries and he's hoping that the that FIBA will agree

39:57to that. Uh you know, so somewhere around January. It

39:59was good. It was fun to see the big, I went to the game, the

40:02big three game, championship game, and you know, it's a

40:06skill. It's a skill and you still got guys extends careers.

40:09I like it. I liked it. It was good. Green went off. You know,

40:14Gerald Green was a part of the championship team. Um and I

40:18like Gerald. I think Gerald, Gerald, it was a little, I

40:21mean, first of all, like Anthony Edwards saying, dudes

40:25weren't athletes like Gerald Green like was probably the top

40:31one that I don't know top five max with top ten athletes I've

40:35ever seen in terms of his athleticism like my goodness

40:39and he, you know, he's thirty-eight now. Believe it or

40:42not, he's been, it's been 20 years since he came out of uh

40:45high school. Straight from high school, yeah. It was great to

40:48see Gerald win something and I know he's had a hard luck

40:51career and probably came out of, you know, won a dunk

40:53contest but you know, he still wants to play in the league and

40:56he hit six threes. He learned how to shoot. If he had learned

40:59how to shoot 10 years ago like he did now, whoa boy. I mean,

41:03it was good to see those guys. A lot of the guys Cory Brewer

41:07now uh former Florida star teammate for college teammate

41:10Al Horford winning the championship. Gary Payton is the

41:13coach. So, yeah, I think I think the big three could work

41:17international. I think Ice Cube has got a great idea and I

41:21know he's like kind of the guy who got, you know, the NBA

41:25doesn't want to. Let's be honest. Like, why don't they

41:29show these games on ESPN or something? It's like, I've seen

41:33enough cornhole. I've seen enough. Last time we had you

41:38on, you, you, you was watching some, some dude on there.

41:40That's right. They had a brother doing cornhole. I'm

41:44like, that's right.

41:48And Max, y'all, y'all see your slapping game? Y'all seen when

41:51they slap each other? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right.

41:55That's on TV now. Yeah, that's on TV. They did that. They did

41:59that in the hood for free. Exactly. For real. Like, I'm

42:03going to say brother was like, wait a minute, man. I got

42:05arrested. No, no, no. But the other, your opponent didn't

42:10just let you do that though. I slapped Curtis after he took my

42:14girl. And now, I can go pro. I can go. You could've, you

42:20could've, you could've, you could've, you could've won some

42:22scratch with that, man. You could've. What's going on here?

42:25Like, we're legitimizing stuff that brothers used to get

42:29arrested for. Like, our new president, whoever it is,

42:33hopefully, we'll see who needs to make some adjustments to

42:37these things. You know what? Because there's some brothers

42:39in jail for slapping some, slapping another guy and he

42:42could go pro doing that. Wow. I was surprised though when we

42:46did have Ice Cube on and he went in. We talked to him a

42:49little bit about a bunch of different things. Oh, man. And

42:51one other than that is, you know, because he was the the

42:55commentator. He was the, what was, what was he, Joe Sway, the

42:59narrator, one of the narrators. Oh, yeah, for the 30. 30 for

43:0330. 30 for 30. Yeah, that was starring, starring Sidney

43:08He said he hated. He said he hated. He said, I, and he said,

43:13well, I don't hate anybody. That's what he started off

43:16with. I said, well, I said, how you feel about Emile Carr? And

43:20he went, oh, man. Oh, he went into a whole another circle

43:27when he said Emile Carr's name. It was just absolutely crazy. I

43:31was like, Emile Carr, he said, man, he said, I couldn't stand

43:35that brother. I told you, I told you, there's probably

43:38still a hit on Emile Carr in LA. What's Emile's, what, 68

43:43now? I would tell you security. I'd say, don't go back to LA

43:52without no security. You need to get some security. Don't have

43:57him do this. Max told Cube about the story when he went to

44:05the, when Emile Carr went to Fatburger and they were like,

44:07we ain't serving you, man. Get out of here. Like, of course,

44:12man. What'd you think? You think, you think LA's going to

44:14forgive you? It was like the day after they won the

44:16championship, I think. Right, Max? Yeah. It was, it was that

44:19summer. I tried to tell you, Max. Oh, it was that summer. It

44:23was that summer. That, uh, that anybody who came back to LA

44:28during that summer and we just, we, we just got beat up. Oh,

44:33man. That's hilarious. All right. Lastly, man, before we

44:36get you out of here, Gary, the, uh, the Jalen Brown versus

44:40Nike slash team USA, what's your, what's your take on this

44:42whole thing, man? I mean, like, is it a snub as Jalen and like

44:46got something here and hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Jalen got a

44:53rap song out and you ain't said a word. Like what?

44:55Yo, I was going to bring it up, but I know you didn't hear it.

45:02Like what you think? Cause like I was like, I gotta take, I

45:08gotta take, but what do you think? What do you think about

45:10it? When I think about the rap song, I think he, I think it

45:14was, it was, I think it was a rap song. If he wasn't Jalen

45:19Brown, people be like, oh, this is pretty, this ain't bad. This

45:22ain't bad. But because it's Jalen, you know what I mean?

45:25It's like, eh, it's just, that's just the way it is for

45:27NBA players, man. I'm sorry. Dane Lillard, you know, Alan

45:31Iverson back in the day, even the late great Kobe Bryant,

45:34like you can come with some of the hardest like lyrics, but

45:37it's like, yo man, you're a basketball player, man. Like it

45:39just doesn't resonate the same. You get what I'm saying? Like

45:42I can't think of another, like I heard Shaq back in the day. I

45:46got to hear it, but I heard Shaq was kind of like one of the

45:48better ones that you can sort of say, okay, this fits the

45:52Shaq song with Biggie. Have you ever heard? Oh, that's a great

45:55song. That one I heard. Yeah. You told me to actually, it was

45:58you. Yeah. You told me. Yeah. It was, I looked it up and now

46:00it's on streaming, but yeah. Biggie killed it. Like Biggie's

46:03verses apparently Shaq said, Biggie literally was like, came

46:07into the studio, said, give me a joint. And then 20 minutes

46:11later, he was like, okay, my verses are done. Like when

46:14y'all ready to lay the shot. Like he came in and was like,

46:17like Shaq was all prepared and Biggie came in, did a little

46:20act. And then literally 20 minutes later. Yeah. I've

46:24written my verses. Let's do this. Y'all ready? Because I

46:27got a place else to be and then just killed it. Um, I mean, I

46:33was a little disturbed by Jalen smoking a cigar. Like I

46:36didn't think he was that, you know, like, like, uh, what do

46:40you think about the Swisher line? You know what a Swisher

46:42is? No, what's a Swisher? No, I'm sorry. It's a cigar that's

46:45known for, for rolling something else up. So I was

46:48surprised you dropped that line as well. Yeah. But I don't, I

46:50don't know if that's like a, if that's what he was doing in the

46:53video, but Swishers are definitely, they're not used for

46:56just the cigars, put it that way. So I was a little

46:58surprised by it, Max. I gotta, I gotta play it for you, man.

47:01But again, if you don't know, is Jalen Brown, you'd be like,

47:04this guy's not that bad. But then you know, was Jalen,

47:07you're like, I saw actually saw the video. Yeah. My daughter

47:11turned me onto the video and I was like, when he put the gold

47:14thing on and he starts shaking and then he went into this

47:17whole rap. I'm like, and then we talked about this other

47:22pocket. Who is, who is ASAP Ferg? Like, what does that mean,

47:25man? Okay. So ASAP Ferg, uh, this is like, man, it was like

47:29a decade ago. Uh, the ASAP crew came out and they all sort of

47:33just went, like, they all have their solo careers after the

47:36fact, but it was ASAP Rocky. It was ASAP Ferg, ASAP, there's

47:40like three or four of them and they all started their name

47:42with that. And then like they branched off into their own

47:44solo careers. And I say ASAP Rocky, ASAP Ferg are probably

47:48the ones that are still, uh, still going, still relevant,

47:51but yeah, he's been a fan. ASAP Rocky is, he's married to,

47:55is it Rihanna? Is that who he's married to? Yeah. Yeah. They

48:00got, they have two kids together, I believe, but yeah,

48:02they're married. Yeah. He married to a billionaire. Okay.

48:06He's ASAP, whatever he can be. And because of that, Max, he

48:10dropped an album, like every like six years, man, but yeah,

48:14he's, he's, he's, he's new, but ASAP Ferg, I'd say has had a

48:17couple more, uh, albums in the last few years, but yeah, I

48:21mean, he, see, when you see, when you hear, uh, Ferg take

48:24over, you're like, okay, this is a rapper, rapper, you know

48:26what I mean? But like, again, like, I just feel like the flow

48:30and everything, it isn't bad, but because it's Jalen, it's

48:32like, like, NBA players can't get outside of that.

48:35My regular job, you know, but the fact that NBA finals MVP

48:42dropped a rap track, everybody can rap. Nobody, like not

48:47everybody can rap. And it's just like, first of all, it's

48:51not the only thing he knows. I'm going to show my age, like

48:54this new generation kid y'all talk, um, and they put a beat

48:59on it. Like y'all, like you put Rakim up there, Rakim,

49:03tear these dudes up, Big Eddie Kane, but tear these dudes

49:06apart, like just flow and rhythm.

49:09Yeah. I kind of blame 50 for that, man. 50 kind of started

49:12that whole, like, I'm not singing, but I'm kind of just

49:15like doing the hook, like, you know what I mean?

49:17Like Jay-Z was the, he's the, the Michael Jordan of talking

49:21rappers. Like, dude, you ain't rapping, you talking. Like, I

49:24can hear that. One of my homeboys would do that. Like,

49:27where's the rhythm, the flow? Like, that's me, I'm one of my

49:33age or whatever.

49:35Like back then, I feel like they were told if you don't

49:38change your style, if you keep rapping like this, we're not

49:41going to get on the radio. So I feel like maybe that was part

49:43of it as well, but, but you're right though. People don't

49:46rap the way they used to. The speed is completely slowed

49:49down. Yeah, man. I thought Jalen, I feel like Jalen just

49:54wanted to get that, get some stuff off his chest, but I

49:56feel like there's some subliminals in there as well. Uh,

49:58I don't know about his, you know, the girl that he's with

50:01and, you know, Nike shot that Nike and all that stuff, but

50:03along those lines, like, what do you, what's your, what's

50:06your take on that whole thing? Because I don't, I mean, it's

50:08hard to say from the outside looking in. Look, we, we don't

50:11talk no more about that. My, my house cleaners are here about

50:14to go in my room. They're asking me, so we're going to get

50:17Gary off right now. Oh man. But I was going to say, I was

50:20going to, I was going to ask him about the, the, the Jalen

50:22and Nike thing real quick.

50:25I'll be up with y'all next week. We talked about Lonnie

50:28Walker. Great signing. Yeah, that's right. 15th man, right?

50:33I'm stunned that they, you know, I've written the last

50:37week or so that he's still out there and I'm like, he's only

50:3925. Why is he still not on the minimum deal? And our, you

50:43know, it might be the end of the line for our friend. Oh,

50:46shape reset who I'll get out team and thought he was going

50:52to get paid somewhere else. And now he might have to get a

50:54training camp invite. But I think Lonnie Walker is exactly

50:59what the Celtics need. You need, like I've always said, like

51:02a Jamal Crawford type of dude who come off the bench and get

51:05you some points, get your buckets. When Jason and Jalen

51:08give them a break, you need some scoring. This dude can put

51:12it down. So if you look at his numbers and per minute, I think

51:16that's a great sign. So, uh, you know, so next, next week,

51:21folks, we're going to get into that. Want to thank you

51:24again for coming in. It was a great, although your french

51:28fries, that was some bullshit. You wanted to hear some gourmet

51:32meals. Thank you for coming in with us and uh, we're going to

51:35peace out right now. All right. See y'all.

51:51Joseph Pavone here, CLNS Media. And if you made it this

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