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00:34Robert, good to talk to you.

00:35Yeah.

00:36Hi, Gary.

00:38Not a lot going on.

00:39So what we're going to do is we're going to try, we're going to take a look at the coaching

00:42situation because it's interesting.

00:49I go back and forth.

00:50I don't know what role coaching plays anymore.

00:53I don't know if it's as important as we want it to believe, but there are definitely some

00:58coaches that we want to follow in the NBA this year.

01:01And I do want to start with the Celtics and I want to start with act three with Missoula.

01:05And the last time we spoke about this, none of us really had any idea what he was going

01:10to try to do.

01:11Like what, how do you, you know, you know, like Belichick, we said in 2002, he gave everybody

01:17T or 2003, he gave him a 2002, gave everybody t-shirts that had the records of the AFC and

01:25everybody was zero, zero.

01:27You know, what does Missoula do to inspire these guys to defend their title?

01:34Well that's a very good question.

01:36And I'm sure he's going to be consulting whoever he feels he, he has some respect for and in

01:42this regard.

01:43And, and you know, we, we've learned that he is a thoughtful guy and, and, and he's

01:47not above, I won't call gimmickry, but stick at times.

01:51Yeah.

01:52I don't know, Bob, I don't know if it's, if it's stick or if it's just psychology.

01:56Well, okay, well, maybe, maybe it's one of the same.

02:01I don't know.

02:02Yeah.

02:03I really, I think it is.

02:04I mean, you know, the thing is that he's, he was handed the, the, you know, the Ferrari

02:08and he drove it, you know, he drove it well and, and he drove it home first and, you know,

02:15it's an unusual situation in that we've said, and, and, you know, once again, I keep saying

02:20really easy, you know, that they're all back.

02:23It's just, there's no, you know, nobody went for be free agency and was signed away and

02:28no, none of the subs went and got overpaid somewhere else and they're all back.

02:33And it's, it's, and they all got to be happy with at the same rate or, or is, is, uh, you

02:40know, is somebody going to want to play more than he was playing or what?

02:44We don't know.

02:45We don't think so.

02:46We think these guys are, are, are all completely composed and, and, and, uh, selfless in terms

02:52of the team, but we're going to find out then, you know, they're going, they know the word

02:57target will come up.

02:58They know they're going to have target bullseye.

03:01So I'll be reminding them that every night is going to be a playoff game and for them

03:05to put the other team until further notice, um, that we know is going to have to tell

03:10them that.

03:11And, and that's fine.

03:12So we don't know, uh, in terms of any kind of, uh, let me throw this idea.

03:17This is, but I would, if I happen to be Joe Missoula and I don't know when I would put

03:24this out there, but I would compile the numbers of the Celtics record against the players

03:33who are all missing in the playoffs, because to me, that's the one thing you can say it's

03:38like, and I'm not, I don't know if Missoula says this, but I think it's going to come

03:42up this year.

03:43But the Celtics beat anybody to get to the post season.

03:46I mean, they did beat somebody in the championship.

03:49There's no doubt about that.

03:51And they deserve that.

03:53And I know that there are people at Nixon bruises and all that, but you know, every,

03:56at that point, everybody does.

03:57Yeah.

03:58But you know, they, they missed and bead, um, you know, Milwaukee with the freak.

04:02He was hurt Miami and Jimmy Butler.

04:05Um, you know, so to me, like, that's the one thing, you know, what are you doing?

04:11And you say, okay, guys, don't get cocky.

04:13You know, you have to walk a fine line between, you don't want to tear down your own accomplishment,

04:19you know, but you want to remind them that, that, uh, the other teams might be better

04:24suited to play you this year, uh, you know, and, uh, uh, and, and you don't have to go

04:29in specifically, spell it out that some people are saying your, your championship is tainted

04:34because you didn't face those guys.

04:36I don't think you need to spell that out, uh, uh, necessarily.

04:41But, um, if there's a way you can remind them that the competition, uh, will be marginally

04:48stiffer and will be, and I, first of all, Philadelphia is, you know, that's part B that's

04:52one thing.

04:53And then the other thing is the fact is that, that two teams that you're going to be competing

04:57directly with are better on paper than they were when it's in New York.

05:02And, uh, so that's for sure.

05:05And, and, uh, in Milwaukee, you're going to have it, well, just forget that it was sticking

05:09your division.

05:10So that's that.

05:12Yeah.

05:13There'll be stuff.

05:14It won't, there'll be coaching, uh, approaching us and, you know, a serious coaching approach.

05:19I also think, you know, you have to wait and see, like, I don't know if you pull that out

05:24of your bag of tricks, day one of preseason, you wait and see how the season's going.

05:29Yeah.

05:30See how they, how they react.

05:31Yeah.

05:32You get, you got to pick your spot for them, uh, properly during the, during the, because

05:37you know, when those guys, and you may not even have to say anything because you know,

05:41when those guys are back and they place them in the regular season, like when Butler plays

05:43the Celtics, he's going to go off.

05:45Oh, he's going to, he's got to go off.

05:47Yeah.

05:48Yeah.

05:49He's got 40, 50 points.

05:50He's going to have a night, you know?

05:51So maybe you don't have to say anything.

05:53It's just funny.

05:54You know, I was sitting there and I was thinking, you know, but the coaching team, I'm like,

05:58what does Sula say?

05:59Like, what do you, what do you tell the kids that have received straight A's and never

06:07broken curfew?

06:08Right.

06:09Right.

06:10Yeah.

06:11No, no.

06:12I mean, that's hard to do.

06:13Yeah.

06:14No, that's hard to do.

06:15Um, as far as, do you think, do you think, how do you think coaching has changed over

06:23the years in the league and is it as important as it once was?

06:30Coaching is important, still important because the personnel management, the, the, the, the

06:39bait, you know, your part, you're a counselor, you're a babysitter, you're a traffic cop.

06:47I mean, um, you know, this different stuff, it's, it's not all about, it isn't about X's

06:52and O's.

06:53I mean, it is, but, but it's, it's about your, your relationship with the players and, and

06:58did they buy what you're selling?

07:01That's the number one, that, that comes all down to that.

07:03Did they buy what they're selling and, and can they execute what you need them to execute?

07:08This team, uh, and if they had any technical area, which you might want to address, guys,

07:15we got to clean up.

07:16We got, we, we skate, we, we dodged a bullet, you know, whatever reference you want to use.

07:21Offensive rebounding.

07:22We, we gave up too many offensive rebounds against certain games, uh, that, that, you

07:27know, we made life hard for ourselves that way.

07:28We got to have to dedicate ourselves a little more to the board, not on the boards.

07:33Uh, other than that, you know, you, you know, your, your, your defense obviously should

07:37be paramount, um, in your scheme, but, uh, uh, that's, that's my technical thing.

07:42But no, I, I, coaching is, is management of personnel and, and getting them to buy what

07:47you're selling.

07:48And, and, uh, that, that's, that's, and he apparently was able to do that.

07:53You know, it's interesting.

07:54I've heard people say, well, the coaches now have to placate to the stars, uh, the

08:00big contracts, make it more difficult for them to manage the players.

08:05But then I always remember, and you know, better than, than I, you know, where Russell

08:12would say red, I'm not practicing today.

08:14And he would sit on the sideline and read the paper and smoke a cigarette.

08:17Well, so it's nothing, it really hasn't changed.

08:20You know what I mean?

08:21No.

08:22Oh no.

08:24The, the, the key with red was he didn't, he didn't treat them all alike and, and, uh,

08:28you know, Tommy Heisman would always explain that, you know, he was the, he knew the time

08:32he could take it.

08:33He was just, he was the designated scapegoat sometimes and, and, uh, that you couldn't

08:37yell at Cousy that way.

08:39And you couldn't yell at Charmin that way.

08:42And you didn't have to yell at Russell for anything really, you know?

08:45So, um, but right as time went on, Russell, uh, practiced very little because he was going

08:50to be playing 45 to 48 minutes at, uh, in his mid thirties.

08:54So, uh, and that was okay with everybody and nobody had a problem with that.

08:59So now we're going back, you guys, we're about to retire in 1969.

09:02So now we're going back, uh, 50, 55 years, six seasons and, and, and since he last played,

09:09but, uh, um, personnel management, you know, is still the, the essence of it all.

09:15And, uh, cause there's a million guys out there that can X and O, but it's not, it's

09:20about making sure that they get the message that you're trying to send.

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11:02Are there any particular coaches this season you're keeping an eye on?

11:05Well, of the new ones, I mean, the most intriguing one is obviously JJ Riddick.

11:12Because of the nature of that team and the fact that he's going to be coaching a 40-year-old

11:17on December 30th, LeBron James.

11:19And there's all these excessive expectations in LA, always now.

11:27And LeBron's play in the Olympics is going to whet appetites again.

11:32It's going to get people excited because he was the best player in the game.

11:36And Davis.

11:37Davis did well.

11:39And Davis reminded everybody how good he is.

11:41And with Davis, how many games are you going to get out of him?

11:44And will he be there?

11:45Will he be ready to play when you most need him?

11:48And that's always the issue with Davis.

11:50But they're still not very deep, but they're a little deeper.

11:52They have tried to address the shooting thing that they needed to open up the floor.

11:57They have tried to address the shooting thing, including a drafting of the neck to connect

12:02the first round draft pick.

12:03But Hachimura, I got somebody else I forget.

12:06They're trying to load up with shooters, and they should.

12:09So that was going to be very intriguing to me, above all.

12:13Interesting to see how San Antonio develops with Wimbayana and Pop, who is now 70, God

12:22knows.

12:23Is he going to be rejuvenated with this youngster and that possibility?

12:31You're going to want to see how they do, of course.

12:36In our division, we've got an interesting coach, the new coach of the Nets, Jordi Fernandez.

12:43Jordi or Jordi, I'll say Jordi Fernandez.

12:46The first native, the first Spaniard man to ever head coach in the NBA, and an intriguing

12:53international resume, and spent the last two years as the associate head coach in Sacramento.

13:01And he's got his first head coaching job.

13:04And of course, we have a Serb coaching the Raptors, and Radjakovic.

13:10So two-fifths of our division rivals are coached by Europeans.

13:15Very interesting.

13:18But overall, the Warriors are going to be interesting.

13:24Is it over or not?

13:25The Thompson thing was messy, it wasn't handled well, I don't think.

13:33I think they've got a lot of mileage on the tires, Bob, man.

13:36Yeah.

13:38Curry's 36.

13:42We saw what he can do in the gold medal game.

13:47God, he's still the greatest shooter of all time.

13:50But they have issues.

13:56What do you think about Curry?

13:58I can't.

13:59Maybe I'm forgetting something very obvious.

14:01But I don't have a prime hot seat candidate, necessarily.

14:07Because so many of the teams are dependent on getting healthy key players, such as Milwaukee,

14:13getting Giannis and keeping him healthy.

14:15And if he's not, there's a ceiling on what they can do.

14:23I don't know if he's necessarily in the hot seat.

14:25But I think Tibbs in New York, he's going to feel some heat because they improved the roster.

14:34And I think some people look at the Celtics, again, what we talked about at the top,

14:40I think the perception outside of Boston is that the Celtics might have had an easy path, right?

14:46Yeah, yes.

14:47So I think Tibbs, they can't go back.

14:51They cannot regress.

14:53No, no.

14:54But they just gave him a three-year contract.

14:57I forgot about that.

14:58So that makes sense.

14:58It just shows.

14:59Yeah, Dolan's not going to pay him.

15:01Yeah, he's not going to fire him.

15:02And the players profess fidelity to him in the paper every chance they get,

15:06that these guys, they don't care what people thought in Chicago or Minnesota.

15:11They like this guy.

15:12And they want to play for him.

15:14This is what they're telling us.

15:16And it's to a man, supposedly.

15:18Oh, we'll see.

15:19But they have to.

15:20I'm happy.

15:21That's going to be the opening night.

15:23That's going to be the flag-raising game is the Knicks.

15:25And that'll be fun.

15:27Oh, that'll be a blast.

15:28That's going to be a lot of fun.

15:29And I've said this before.

15:30I'm going to say it again.

15:31It's such a good thing that we kindle the rivalry with New York and Boston and Philadelphia.

15:36Right.

15:36Because I'm telling you, if we can begin to approximate the buzz in that building

15:41from 50 years ago with the Knicks and 30 years ago with the 76ers,

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17:44Well, that brings us to the passing of a great coach and a man that you covered,

17:49and a man that I knew from the 1975 NBA finals with Rick Barry and Clifford Ray.

17:57And is George Johnson a backup center on that team?

18:01George Swatt Johnson.

18:04That was George Swatt Johnson.

18:06George Swatt Johnson.

18:07Let's see if I can get the rest.

18:08And Phil Johnson was on that team.

18:11Gus Williams?

18:13No, no.

18:15Charlie Johnson.

18:16There were two Johnsons.

18:17Charlie was a little guard.

18:20And one of the most intriguing players on the team that year and instrumental in their

18:26playoff success was rookie Keith, not yet Jamal Wilks.

18:31That's right.

18:31Keith Wilks.

18:32That's right.

18:33Okay.

18:33And also the guard who two winning free throws in games for

18:41Kapta his season, Butch Beard.

18:44Butch Beard.

18:45And of course, at the top of the food chain, Rick Barry in one of his greatest seasons.

18:52So this was, this is a fascinating, one of the more intriguing champions in the history

18:58of the league.

19:00First of all, well, we won't go first of all, we'll finish it up.

19:04They had a, they were 48 and 34 in a regular season.

19:07I did not remember that.

19:09They were 48 and 34.

19:10They were nobody.

19:11They were not.

19:12And the heavy, heavy overall favorite were the Washington Bullets, who had defeated the

19:17Celtics.

19:19They both won 60 games that year.

19:21And the Bullets beat the Celtics in six games in the playoffs.

19:26And fair and square.

19:28You know, I thought Tommy didn't coach well, by the way.

19:30I thought he messed Cowans up a little bit and I wrote it.

19:33And, you know, I thought that was, we all know what happened there.

19:36I don't think that was Tommy's finest hour, the eight to 75 playoffs.

19:39But, but anyway, the Bullets were heavy favorites with Unselden, Hayes and company.

19:47And, but it had another good rookie, Bill Smith.

19:51Bill Smith, who, who got better and better as the season went on.

19:55He only played 14 minutes a game during the regular season, but he acquired, he had an

20:00increased role in the playoffs.

20:01And I think I most remember, I remember Bill Smith, the big six, four guard was, his father

20:06was a cable car motor man.

20:11So he was the real San Francisco kid.

20:13And that's for sure.

20:15They were, the coach, of course, was Al Adams.

20:18This is why we're talking about them.

20:19And himself, a warrior, first, last and always.

20:25He was a rookie with the Philadelphia Warriors in 1960.

20:29Moved with them to San Francisco.

20:31Then they became the Golden State Warriors.

20:33And when he died two days ago, he was still, I don't know if he was on the payroll, but

20:40he was in the hearts and minds of anybody, you know, in the organization.

20:44He was a lifelong warrior and 64 years worth of fidelity to the Warriors franchise in two

20:53different cities, three different cities, really.

20:55So a guy who was a, you know, he was as a player and this just, and I don't mean to

21:04disparage the party of the second part.

21:06It's a comparison, okay?

21:08He was the exact same player as Casey Jones.

21:11I think he was better.

21:12He had, he was a more of an offensive threat than Casey ever was.

21:16Same kind of guy, same size, same body, same tenacity on defense, the same intangibles,

21:22the same, you know, good guy quality.

21:25But the difference between Casey Jones and Al Adams was that Al Adams didn't get to play

21:30his entire college career and his entire professional career with Bill Russell.

21:36Casey Jones does not get into the Hall of Fame with any other team.

21:40It's not even remotely, it's not even a discussion.

21:43And Al Adams said he'd been, he could have, now he did get into the Hall of Fame in 2019

21:48as a contributor.

21:49So he is in the Hall of Fame.

21:51And he didn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, you know, as a player.

21:53I mean, no question, I'm not saying that.

21:54I'm simply saying if, so for Celtic fans, the frame of reference is he was the Casey

21:59Jones 2.0.

22:00He was absolutely the duplicate of Casey Jones, but he did spend his career with another team.

22:05His coach, now that the 75 finals was fascinating.

22:09It was the first finals with two black coaches.

22:12And then there was a lot was made out of that.

22:14And so that was history right there.

22:17And that was Casey and Al, right?

22:19It's Casey and Al.

22:20And Al's, Casey's lieutenant, Bernie Bickerstaff, there was a moment when they had a time out

22:27and Bickerstaff, they're all talking.

22:29And people tried to read stuff into that.

22:31Right.

22:32And Casey had to carry that with him all the way over to Boston.

22:35You know, that didn't mean he didn't know what he was doing.

22:38It just the way he was, you know, it was the way they did that particular time out.

22:44Anyway, so Adams coached them to the championship.

22:48But that team, they had, in the playoffs, they, I'm trying to get this to run here.

22:54They, well, where is, where is, where is, okay.

22:58Oh, they beat Seattle in six.

23:00They beat the Chicago Bulls with Sloan, Van Leer and company and Bob Love and Chuck Walker

23:07in seven.

23:08And then they went in as absolute underdog.

23:10But there's most, it was a unique, and I'm using that word properly, a unique finals

23:16in that it was a best of seven.

23:19And it was, but it was neither a 2-3-2 or a 2-2-1-1-1.

23:26And the reason was the Warriors, the Bullets had home court advantage.

23:32Right.

23:33They were, let's see, Bullets.

23:37I got them here.

23:38Oh, they were, whatever.

23:45Anyway, they ran a lot.

23:46They ran home court.

23:47But the Warriors played their ordinary, ordinarily played their home games in the Oakland house

23:51and the Oakland arena.

23:52Okay.

23:53It wasn't available.

23:54There was scheduling.

23:56Yeah.

23:57Wasn't available at the time when they needed it.

23:59Right.

24:00So now they're going to play in the Cow Palace, the famous Cow Palace, which, which was among

24:04other things, it was once a site of a democratic convention.

24:08Right.

24:08Anyway, I was in here once, I have to say in the Cow Palace.

24:12But if they had the weekend, the games, if it was two, it was 2-2-1-1-1, it was going

24:18to be, and the two, three games, three and four weekend was Memorial Day weekend.

24:25And that building wasn't available either.

24:29I'm not making this up.

24:31So the Bullets have a choice.

24:33The Bullets, excuse me.

24:35Yeah, they're the Bullets.

24:36They have a choice.

24:38They can go.

24:43Oh, two, three.

24:45Oh, they can go start off at Golden State and then get two, three and four at home.

24:53Okay.

24:54Okay.

24:54Or have their home game, game one at home and then go out to Oakland.

25:03Right.

25:04It would be 1-2-2-1-1-1.

25:07Okay.

25:08I'm not making this up.

25:09They decided they didn't want to give up game one at home.

25:13They wanted game one at home to get an advantage right away.

25:17So it was 1-2-2-1-1-1 if it were to go seven.

25:22Game one, though they had the home, they forfeited their home court advantage in game one to

25:27play the game in the Cow Palace at the new date.

25:33And they lost.

25:34And they lost 1-0-1 to 95.

25:37And they were, I remember, they were stunned.

25:40They just destroyed their equilibrium.

25:44Now they go out to Oakland for two games.

25:47Right.

25:47First game, Oakland wins by one point.

25:50I mean, Warriors win by one, 92-91.

25:53And now the next game is 1-0-9-1-0-1.

25:56So now they're down 0-3, going back home.

25:58Going back home.

26:00I was present at the games in Washington, but not the games in Oakland, in San Francisco.

26:05Okay.

26:07So I covered that final fourth game.

26:09And I remember it very well.

26:12Rick Barry had a great series.

26:14Rick Barry's numbers in his four games, points assist, 24-5, 36-4, 38-6, and in game four,

26:2320-5.

26:25And the game, it was, as I said, it was a 96-95 game at two winning free throws by Butch Beard.

26:33Well, they swept them and they stunned them.

26:34And one of the keys to the series, technically, was young, six foot six, 180 pound, whatever,

26:42Keith Wilkes.

26:43Keith Wilkes.

26:44Held his own with Elvin Hayes, in the peak of Elvin Hayes's.

26:48Yeah.

26:49And that was key without that matchup.

26:52He did a terrific job.

26:54He didn't let Hayes overwhelm them.

26:57So that's their town.

26:58Here's their team, their roster.

27:00We went over it.

27:01But Rick Barry, Jamal Wilkes, Butch Beard, a two-headed center monster of Clifford Ray

27:09and George Swatt Johnson, nicknamed so-called because he was a great shot blocker.

27:15Right, right, right, right.

27:16And substitute guard, Charlie Johnson, another substitute guard, Charles Dudley.

27:22And that was pretty much the bulk of it.

27:25I got to tell you this.

27:27The next year, I'm in Oakland, and I buy a T-shirt.

27:32They have a commemorative T-shirt for the 75.

27:35Right.

27:36And the entire roster is on your back, OK?

27:40And I was going around saying, I'm the only kid in my block with Steve Bracey's name on my back.

27:45Steve Bracey was like the 11th man from Tulsa.

27:49And then Frank Kendrick out of Purdue.

27:53So I had that shirt for like 30 years and finally wore it out.

27:57I wish I still had it.

27:58That's a great shirt.

27:59I loved it.

28:00I loved that shirt.

28:01It was beautiful powder, that nice blue.

28:03Did Barry ever, did he ever have a year like that following that?

28:09He was in the midst of a good one.

28:12Yeah, he did.

28:14And then he was in the midst.

28:17That was in year three of his six-year second tenure with the Warriors.

28:22Originally, he was a warrior in Philadelphia.

28:25Right.

28:26And then he jumped to the ABA.

28:29That's it.

28:29That's where you're right.

28:30Very controversially.

28:32He went to the ABA.

28:32Who did he play for in the ABA?

28:34He played for the Oakland Oaks.

28:37He played for his father-in-law.

28:39He married the coach's son, the daughter in Miami, who's Hale.

28:44And he married Pam Hale.

28:47And then Bruce became coach of the Oakland Oaks.

28:49And he went up playing for his father-in-law, his then father-in-law.

28:53They got divorced after 16 years.

28:56He's the mother of the first crop.

28:59Right.

29:00And his current wife is the mother of Canyon, who played in our three-on-three team in the Olympics.

29:07Okay.

29:08Okay.

29:08So, but anyway, so Barry, you know, until Larry Bird came along,

29:12he was the greatest passing forward that we'd ever seen.

29:15And also the foul shot.

29:16The foul shot was classic.

29:17And the underhand free throw, a consummate scorer, and a highly controversial figure, you know.

29:23Well, yeah.

29:23Let's talk about the personality with him.

29:25He was complex.

29:28The word arrogant seems to fit.

29:32Really.

29:33Yeah.

29:34He was arrogant.

29:35And he was a know-it-all.

29:37And he didn't suffer fools very gladly at all.

29:42And, you know, he was a hard guy to coach, I think.

29:44And, you know, I had a nice, you know, my little tenuous relationship, man.

29:51My little was good with him.

29:53And I'll tell you, he did a nice thing in 1976, when the word got out that I was getting off the

30:00beat the final year.

30:02And we were at the finals the next year.

30:03Remember, he was doing TV.

30:05Right.

30:05I remember him on CBS.

30:07Yeah, right.

30:08And he comes over to me and says, yeah, I hear you're leaving.

30:10You know, I wish you luck and all that.

30:11It was really nice.

30:12You know, a lot of people wouldn't believe that out of him.

30:16Believe me.

30:16But that was him.

30:18Well, I thought he was a very good analyst.

30:20Oh, he knows the game.

30:21And he's very, I won't say bitter, but very angry that his personality preceded him, if you will.

30:29He could never get a coaching job.

30:31He thought he would have had a lot to offer.

30:34And people didn't want to hire him.

30:37Yeah.

30:39You know, he was a very, very specific piece of work.

30:42I'll tell you that.

30:43But anyway, that team, it goes down, as time has gone on now and all these years have gone by,

30:49it still remains the biggest single upset, I think, in the finals.

30:53Well, I think so.

30:54Yeah.

30:54The Warriors, I mean, the Bullets were such a prohibitive favorite.

30:57And the Warriors, and with all these other no-names, you know, I mean, who were getting

31:02time for the Charles Johnsons and Charles Dudleys of the world.

31:08And with the rookie Wilks playing a prominent role.

31:12Now, Rick was the MVP in the finals.

31:15Right.

31:15He wasn't the MVP in the league.

31:17No, no, no.

31:17He never was.

31:18He never won one.

31:19McAdoo was the MVP that year, by the way.

31:21Oh, for the Braves.

31:22Sure.

31:22Okay.

31:22Yes, he was the MVP.

31:24And Barry was the finals MVP, of course.

31:27But it goes down in history, you know, for the number one biggest upset ever.

31:31Yeah.

31:32And B, the two black coaches.

31:33And Al Adels, you know, becoming the first, well, the second black coach, because Bill

31:37Russell had won, you know, a championship too.

31:40But Al Adels, then he went into the front office and he died, you know, he lived and

31:48died as a Warrior from 1960 until he died two days ago.

31:51And a universally popular man, a wonderful.

31:54And also, what a voice.

31:55What a radio.

31:56His voice started down somewhere near his shin.

31:58Oh, okay.

31:59Oh, what a voice.

32:01Yeah.

32:01Fantastic voice.

32:02Also, someone put a great X out today.

32:05And I remember it very well.

32:06It said, and he rocked leisure suits.

32:11This is the height of the leisure suit.

32:12And he had great lapels.

32:16And man could rock the lapels.

32:18He could rock the lapels.

32:20Yeah.

32:21Without question.

32:22Bob, did you ever own a leisure suit?

32:25No.

32:26No, I didn't own a leisure suit.

32:27I did have bell-bottom pants.

32:30Well, everybody did.

32:31I, what I'm saying, that's as close as I would get.

32:33I had bell-bottom pants, but I did not have a leisure suit.

32:36Did you?

32:37No, no, no, no.

32:38In Maine?

32:39No, no.

32:39Flannels shirts, baby.

32:42Leisure suit in Rumford, Maine?

32:44Come on.

32:46What are you, nuts?

32:47I was just up your way yesterday.

32:48I was speaking at a group of authors at the Weld Public Library.

32:55Oh, okay.

32:56And Maddie Bujold, who runs it, was, she put together a panel of 12 authors.

33:0312.

33:04And we spoke for five minutes about writing, or hopefully about writing.

33:09I spoke about writing.

33:10Some of them deviated.

33:14Anybody we know?

33:15Anybody we may know?

33:16Anybody from Mexico or Rumford?

33:18No.

33:19You know, I didn't know anybody myself.

33:21But so, a couple people known.

33:24So, that's some task to gather, well, you know, people, authors in Weld, Maine, on a

33:32Thursday afternoon.

33:33No, that's not an easy task.

33:35It was an honor.

33:35It was nice to be there.

33:36Yep.

33:37Weld, one of the great towns.

33:39All right, Bob, always a pleasure.

33:40We'll talk to you again soon as we remember Al Adels and as we take a look at the coaching

33:44situation for the NBA in this upcoming season.

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