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Before an interview with Patriots cornerback Christian Gonzalez, Andrew explains why there's an increasing chance Drake Maye plays on Sunday and shares four fake trades the Pats could make before the NFL's trade deadline. Then, he welcomes two-time Super Bowl champion Christian Fauria to hand out midseason awards and preview Pats-Titans.

0:00 - Happy Halloween!
2:57 - Positive Drake May update
5:27 - Patriots crushed trade
7:09 - Fake trades discussion
9:56 - Kendrick Bourne trade
12:06 - Jonathan Jones trade
14:53 - Trade discussions
19:03 - Mid-season awards
23:06 - Offensive Player debate
28:16 - Defensive Player discussion
29:49 - Country bar stories
31:34 - Defensive player highlights
35:38 - Special teams mention
37:13 - Injuries update
40:53 - Rookie quarterback struggles
42:49 - Second half expectations
44:33 - Short fields strategy
46:27 - Offensive adjustments needed
47:24 - Christian Gonzalez


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00:00All right, it is a little late for this, but I'm going to tell you anyway, happy Halloween.
00:17I am recording here late Thursday night, which really means you're probably going to listen
00:21to this Friday, Saturday, maybe Sunday morning, at which point you will have realized the
00:25best part of Halloween, as I did sometime around 14 or 15, is actually the day after
00:31when you wake up with more candy than you were going to have for the next 365 days until
00:36you come back to this very moment a year from now.
00:38So congrats to you, congrats to me, because I have more candy for you, and here's how
00:44it goes.
00:45On this episode alone, a stacked sugary episode, we have fake trades, we have mid-season awards
00:53with two-time Super Bowl champion, former Patriots tight end Christian Fourier.
00:56We have a four-minute drill with another Christian, Christian Gonzalez, who, I'll be frank with
01:01you at the top, not our best four-minute drill, not because I didn't come prepared.
01:05I actually outsourced some questions to teammates in the locker room today before we went outside
01:09and did the video separate, because all the videos now during media access are outside
01:13of the locker room, stuff you didn't ask for, and Christian being quiet and typically a
01:16little short.
01:17It's just his personality.
01:18I wanted to be maximum prepared.
01:20We started great.
01:21The middle's eh.
01:22The ending was pretty good.
01:23So that is at the end, and before we get to all of that, I think what you will find is
01:27the sweetest part of all.
01:29It's a positive Drake May update, because while I recorded with Christian Fourier yesterday,
01:34Christian Gonzalez later today, I waited to do this intro Thursday night after the Patriots
01:39released their latest practice report, and on that practice report it said, for the second
01:43straight day, Drake May is limited with a concussion he sustained last weekend against
01:46the Jets.
01:47And that part is not the good news.
01:50The good news is at practice today, he participated in opening stretching and initial drills,
01:56which is an upgrade from Wednesday when he was also limited.
02:00But Wednesday, as I asked Gerard Mayo before practice, last question he got, is Drake limited
02:05to 30 minutes?
02:06Well, he practiced longer than 30 minutes, and Gerard said, no, he will not practice
02:10longer than 30 minutes.
02:11And the reason I asked that is because players in the concussion protocol have five phases,
02:16and phase number three says players can be involved in football-specific activities,
02:22but they cannot practice longer than 30 minutes.
02:23So once Gerard said no, that meant Drake, even though he was going to be limited later
02:28that day in practice, was in phase three, because the time limit said that's exactly
02:33where he was.
02:34So the team on Wednesday did not include him in initial stretching, didn't include him
02:39in initial drills.
02:40They waited to start his 30-minute window until after the media had left, and practice
02:44really begins.
02:45And we can't say what plays they're running and who's running where and what package and
02:48all this different stuff.
02:50So when Drake was a participant today for that opening part, and they started his window
02:55earlier, that to me said there is no window, baby.
02:57He should be, is very likely in phase four, which means there's one left to go.
03:03And five is just basically clearance from a team position, and then an independent neurological
03:08consultant who has to verify that all of his signals and his signs and his neurological
03:12responses are back to a baseline, meaning when all the players do this neurological
03:16testing before the season, when they're not concussed, you get back to that same baseline
03:21performance.
03:22So I want to be clear.
03:24I have no idea whether Drake May will play Sunday in Tennessee.
03:27I don't know how he feels right now.
03:29I don't know how he's going to feel tomorrow.
03:31But theoretically, it is possible that Drake May could be cleared as soon as Friday when
03:36the Patriots will have one more practice, they'll release a practice report, and they
03:40can wait to announce.
03:41They cannot announce.
03:42They get announced right away.
03:43I don't know.
03:44Gerard May will speak tomorrow morning.
03:45I will not be in there.
03:46I have one of my best friend's wedding, I'm actually officiating on Saturday, so I'm going
03:49to go up to Vermont on Friday.
03:51But you will hear from the reporters down there, follow our guy, Doug Kide, and we will
03:54hear about Drake May.
03:55But as it stands right now, things are trending positively, and if I had to guess, I think
04:00he will play Sunday at Tennessee.
04:02So big, big update there.
04:03Okay.
04:04Before we get to the midseason awards, which Christian was great, so was Gonzalez, I wanted
04:10to hit on the fake trades, which I cooked up and published today at the Boston Herald.
04:14And before we get to that, I was thinking, you know, regardless of whatever happens over
04:19the next, I don't know, however many hours until we get to Tuesday at 4pm, because yes,
04:24the NFL's trade deadline is on Election Day, no deal that the Patriots are going to make
04:29is going to be bigger than the one they made in Naugat, shipping Matt Judd onto Atlanta.
04:32So I said, okay, how's Matt Judd on doing?
04:34I've not checked.
04:35I don't, I think I've watched one Falcon in the game and that was it.
04:37Maybe week two against the Eagles.
04:39And when I looked up his stats yesterday to write this column that came, will come out
04:44tomorrow on Friday, I was stunned.
04:47Matt Judd on right now, when you look at his sacks, his tackles for loss, and his quarterback
04:53hits outside of those sacks.
04:55So just when you hit the quarterback, you haven't sacked them, but they overlap in the
04:58modern box court.
04:59He is tracking after eight starts.
05:01And when you prorate this over a full 17 game season to have less production by sacks, tackles
05:08for loss and quarterback hits than he had last year, when he played just three and a
05:13half games for the Patriots, he has one and a half sacks, two tackles for loss and one
05:19quarterback hit.
05:20That's it.
05:21Which means ladies and gentlemen, the Patriots absolutely crushed the Matt Judd on trade.
05:27I've seen enough to steal from our election day theme next week.
05:30That's it.
05:31A third round pick for what will be prorated as basically three sacks, four tackles for
05:36loss and two quarterback hits is insane.
05:39And his underlying metrics aren't good either.
05:42This isn't like, oh, he's getting close.
05:43He's not just getting there among addressers with at least 150 pass rushing staffs.
05:47Matt Judd on has one on his pass rushes 7.3% of the time, according to pro football focus.
05:53He's averaging fairly a pressure and a half per game and his pro football focus grade
05:58for run defense, which we can all debate metal with and give tiny, tiny bit of salt is tracking
06:03for a career low.
06:05Not to mention the three penalties.
06:06This is not to bag on Matt Judd on at all.
06:09It's to say when you assess how the Patriots did trading, don't just look at what I think
06:14will probably be KJ Osborne for conditionally round pick or Josh Utsay for 2026 six rounder.
06:20The biggest move they had to make, they've already made and they got an aim.
06:24This is like looking at their past draft and you can be disappointed in Jalen Polk.
06:27I am.
06:28I'm bummed that Jayvon Baker has six offensive snaps in eight games and Kane Wallace got
06:32hurt and Lane Robinson struggling.
06:34But none of that matters remotely close.
06:37Even if you stack up all of those picks and all those players and all that lack of production,
06:41if the Patriots hit on Drake may that draft gets an a cause that third overall pick matters
06:46that much.
06:47The quarterback position matters that much.
06:49And with respect to all the other players in the roster, Matt Judd on, even if he stinks
06:53right now, the value he had to net a third round pick is going to be more than if you
06:58stacked up, they traded Jonathan Jones and Kendrick Bourne and KJ Osborne.
07:02This is me giving away my fake trades, but there is one where the Patriots at and the
07:05Patriots crushed that they won the Matthew Judd on trade at tip to them.
07:09Okay, let's get the fake trades, but first price picks guys, if you haven't been listening,
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08:55All right.
08:56Patriots fake trades.
08:57These first three, very similar Patriot shipping out a veteran getting a late round pick.
09:03Number one, Kendrick Bourne and a 2025 seventh round pick to the 49ers for a 2026 fifth round
09:10pick.
09:11So essentially the Patriots net, the value of a sixth rounder in this deal is something
09:15the Panthers failed to do when they dealt Deontay Johnson earlier this week to Baltimore,
09:20giving a seventh and getting a six in return.
09:23The Patriots here are giving up a seventh and getting a fifth in return.
09:26So you go, okay, well, how would Kendrick Bourne that's more than Deontay Johnson did
09:31The years are key here because it's a very common argument.
09:33Belichick did this earlier when he was criticizing the Josh Hutey deal, that if a draft pick
09:38dealt or acquired is, we'll call it two years, two drafts out from now, that pick is worth
09:44around less than the one that's closer.
09:47Okay.
09:48So a 2025 third round pick is really the same as a 2026 second round pick.
09:54Okay.
09:55Later it is the lower the value.
09:57And so here they argue to the Niners, Hey, you need to receive her now.
10:01You still get to keep the same number of picks in this draft.
10:04Okay.
10:05Actually you add one.
10:06We just want a better asset down the road and the Patriots rebuilding have all the time
10:09in the world.
10:10So they say, yeah, we'll wait an extra year for the best asset in this deal.
10:13And they give up Kendrick Bourne.
10:14Would I do this deal?
10:16No, because the Patriots need leadership right now.
10:18They need it in the locker room.
10:19They need it on offense.
10:20They need it on defense and meetings on the road.
10:23And Kendrick was really the first to spill the beans on this amid some other comments
10:26and other places, but it's a young immature receiver room.
10:28I'm just saying, if you need to outline a deal to find an ideal trade partner, someone
10:32willing and interested in taking in Kendrick Bourne with the Niners were back in the summer,
10:37this is how you do it.
10:38And you get a higher draft by saying, okay, kick it back here.
10:41Okay.
10:42What do you care about a fifth round pick in 2026, but you could have 18 months to recoup.
10:47Give that to us.
10:48We'll send you born and the seventh rounder this year, the Patriots have three and let's
10:51call it a deal.
10:53Trade number two.
10:54A simpler version of the same deal, KJ Osborne and a 2025 seventh round pick for the chargers
10:592026, six round pick.
11:02So here's the deal.
11:04Osborne's underlying numbers are terrible.
11:06I get that.
11:07He had 615 receiving yards on average over his last three years in Minnesota.
11:12This is not Minnesota.
11:13He's not in Kansas anymore.
11:15Okay.
11:16This is a receiver who's not playing for a bad team with maybe the worst receiving core
11:20in the league.
11:21So the chargers still need a receiver.
11:23And you could put it even a condition on this pick to say, Hey, if he averages four catches
11:27per game, which would be second on the chargers right now, you know, bump that up around.
11:32But the Patriots here are after their original six round pick from the JC Jackson trade.
11:36I think I said 2026 six rounder.
11:38What I want is this year's sixth round pick.
11:41So the Patriots last year give up a 2025 six rounder for JC Jackson and a seventh round
11:48pick.
11:49And I want to get this back because we know the Patriots picks are going to be at the
11:51top of every round and therefore more valuable than anyone else further down below them.
11:56So this is what they get.
11:57It's a pick swap.
11:58Osborne goes for something similar to Deontay Johnson.
12:00The reason being the chargers desperation.
12:03And maybe they say, Hey, you can have the best of our three seventh round picks.
12:06Trade number three, Jonathan Jones to the Vikings.
12:08This one simpler straight up for a six round pick.
12:11Jonathan Jones is 31.
12:13He's in a contract year.
12:14He is still playing starting caliber football.
12:17But here it's more about fit.
12:19Brian Flores knows he needs a little bit of help in that secondary teams are not figuring
12:23out Minnesota, but you need depth and that kind of defense and over the wear and tear
12:28of 17 game season.
12:29The Patriots have taken good care of Jonathan Jones who played just 30 snaps last weekend
12:33against the Jets and before has been limited and rotating in with Marco Wilson and Marcus
12:37Jones.
12:38So here they say, Hey, we have a refreshed Jonathan Jones that you can play at outside
12:41corner nickel and safety if you want.
12:44And he knows that system.
12:45Brian Flores was here for almost two decades before he went to Miami and then to Pittsburgh
12:49and more recently in Minnesota.
12:51So the trick here again is this is a 2026 six rounder.
12:55I know none of you were thrilled about that.
12:56I get that.
12:57You don't need to yell in all caps in the comments or email me about this.
13:01But the reason this one is a 2026 six rounder is not again because he's 31 and in a contract
13:06year, the Vikings don't have any picks in 2025.
13:10It's a first rounder in two fifths and that's it.
13:12And they're not giving up a fifth for Jonathan Jones.
13:15So let's get this one straight and then we'll get to everything else.
13:17This is where the Patriots get a player.
13:19And he's someone that if you were listening pre-draft, not this spring, but two years
13:23ago, they're 18 months, whatever.
13:26Emanuel Forbes is a name I brought up a lot and Emanuel Forbes, when his name is brought
13:30up now, it's because he's bad at football.
13:33And despite a regime change, we're out goes around Rivera incomes, Dan Quid, Adam Peters
13:38and new GM Forbes is still buried on the depth chart in Washington.
13:42This is a six foot one corner with four, three, five speed who tied or set the record
13:46for pick sixes in the sec a couple of seasons ago, immensely talented.
13:51The issues are twofold.
13:52One, he's very, very skinny, like putting, pushing 170 pounds, very lanky do number two
13:57extinct to tackle.
13:58Okay.
13:59But if I'm the Patriots and go, okay, we can do the same version of the trades I just proposed.
14:04We give up a fifth rounder.
14:06You give us Forbes who has most of that, all the money left in his rookie first year, first
14:11round contract guaranteed.
14:13You give us Forbes and a sixth round pick.
14:15So it's a pick swap trade.
14:16We've moved back and get the player.
14:18We'll take it.
14:19And the reason I think the Patriots might be interested in this more than other teams
14:22who, again, Forbes might be caught, might not be.
14:25He's buried in the depth chart, barely played a hundred defensive snaps this year.
14:28He's actually healthy scratch one, but a, the talent is there be his best game as an
14:33NFL player.
14:34What's in new England a year ago when the commanders came in and won 20 to 17, he had
14:39three pass breakups because the Patriots were trying to pick in him and just couldn't.
14:43He only gave up two catches on seven targets and in-person performances tend to leave an
14:47impression on front offices.
14:48Not unique to the Patriots.
14:50This happens all over the place.
14:51But if you want to think about it, Wes Welker was one of those.
14:54He's a pain in our ass.
14:55We can't defend him.
14:56Let's get him.
14:57Okay.
14:58Plenty of examples in the Belichick era.
14:59This is another one.
15:00They say, we saw it.
15:01We trust our coaching.
15:02We've done good job with young corners, but they're just a little small.
15:06Okay.
15:08We don't need right now and can maybe ideally put opposite Christian Gonzalez who ironically
15:13went after Forbes in that same draft and a roll of the dice picks up who cares kind of
15:18trade.
15:19So there you have it for fake trades upcoming now, mid season awards with Christian Fourier
15:23after that Christian Gonzalez.
15:25And then we'll get out of here.
15:26I would highly encourage you to listen to Christian for his podcast coach to win, which
15:29we had a little technical glitch and he made his own pitch.
15:32So we hit on it and then got away from it because that part of the episode was lost.
15:37Afterwards, he gets all the football stuff.
15:38It's great to hear him back in the airwaves and get his podcast is coached the number
15:41to win with a lot of great guests coming up, Christian and Christian.
15:45Okay.
15:46It's not often we have two times Superbowl champions on the pod, but when we do, we like
15:49him handsome and dancing, which we have Christian Fortier for the folks on YouTube, given a little
15:53extra for free.
15:55Oh, that little, that little intro was pretty nice, man.
15:58Like, I mean, I was just, you know, when you do, whenever you're on hold and you call somebody,
16:03they put you on hold.
16:04And sometimes you get some really good music that they provide you while you're on hold.
16:08And sometimes you're dancing.
16:09Sometimes you're not.
16:10That kind of made me dance.
16:11Good job by you.
16:13Is the music good though, when you're on hold, I feel like you either get sent back a couple
16:17centuries and it's classical, or you have this, some kids screwed around in garage band
16:21and the CEO was like, yeah, that'll be our call waiting.
16:24You're screaming representative.
16:27There's I think it's AT&T.
16:28I can't remember what it is.
16:29It's one of these places I call a lot and I'm always on hold.
16:32And I remember one time I was trying to record it cause I was going to, I wanted it as a
16:35ringtone.
16:36It was so catchy.
16:37I just couldn't get it out of my head.
16:39Oh, good.
16:40Are you on hold a lot?
16:41You said they're one of these places you're calling a lot.
16:43Uh, you know, it must be like something to do with healthcare.
16:47It's going to have to do with insurance or something like that.
16:50Somebody's always screwing something up.
16:52This, this, this, uh, provider won't pay.
16:55This person says it's their fault and you're trying to connect the dots.
16:59Neither side is talking.
17:00They just try to make your life miserable.
17:02I mean, that's what it is.
17:03It's a whole, it's a different show though.
17:05We'll get into healthcare and all that stuff.
17:07Maybe at a later date, maybe during the off season, we can do a whole healthcare discussion.
17:11Healthcare discussion.
17:12That will be like, uh, for the office fans out there, Creed Bratton's blog that Ryan
17:16set up and he unbeknownst to him was not online.
17:18So we'll just, we'll just have that show.
17:20We won't hit record, but if you want to vent, we can absolutely do that.
17:23What do you like about the past?
17:24Here's what I like.
17:25I think the Stevenson is obviously so unbelievably impressive to me.
17:30That's, that would be my number one guy.
17:32When I watch him, I always think about the defensive corner that has to come up
17:37and play contain, right?
17:39Who is unblocked.
17:40And the offensive coordinator, Van Pelt says, we have everybody blocked.
17:43You got to make one miss.
17:44And this poor slap is got to run up and try to make contact with a guy that is
17:49untackable, untackleable.
17:51See if I can say that again.
17:52Do you see this arm?
17:53He gave speaking of corners and slapped DJ Reed first quarter.
17:56He's like shimmying outside and DJ reads already following on himself.
17:59It gives them like what looked like almost a polite stiff arm.
18:02It was a tap on the head.
18:03I tweeted out this clip.
18:04He's like, Oh, I'm sorry.
18:05Excuse me.
18:06Goodbye.
18:07And pushes him further into the dirt.
18:08He's so, he's so good.
18:10And imagine if, and because even if a play is unblocked, even in the
18:15beginning of the season, he makes something out of nothing.
18:17He makes something out of nothing.
18:18He's at, at, at worst case scenario for him, he's getting back to the
18:22line of scrimmage.
18:23And so I'm good with second and 10, you know, second and 12.
18:27You're like, Holy crap.
18:28But he is, he is getting back to the line of scrimmage, even though he
18:31gets hit four yards of the backfield.
18:33Guys are getting on, on block.
18:34Linebackers are shooting the gap.
18:36He like stones.
18:38One guy, stiff arms, another guy slips, another one sidesteps this way.
18:43And then he's going forward and he's so strong.
18:45His only problem was his fumbles early on that probably messed with his
18:48confidence, but he's absolutely a stud.
18:50I love him.
18:51The other guy that's starting to kind of over the past three to four weeks
18:56has been booty.
18:57He's been showing up just slowly.
19:01First, it's the go route over here.
19:03It's the go route over there.
19:04And you're like, wow, it's the touchdown, the Drake Mase touchdown.
19:07And you're like, wow, this guy's, they're starting to get a, build a
19:10relationship.
19:11Those guys are, you know, booty's identified.
19:13Stevenson, obviously.
19:14And then defensively for me, it's Gonzalez.
19:17You know, he's just, he's more than, he's more than advertised.
19:20We've touched on a lot.
19:21Let's hand out some awards, but before we do that,
19:23let's hand out 20 bucks to the people.
19:25I'm sure you like finding $20.
19:26Do you ever do that in your pant pocket?
19:28You pull out a 20, you forgot about in there.
19:30Ooh, that's, it's awesome.
19:31It's like showing up when the, it's like showing up to class when they
19:34bring out the VCR and you know, there's no tests or no class.
19:37It's the best.
19:38Okay.
19:39This, this show just got 30 years older with the VCR.
19:4230 years older with that comment.
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20:48Actually it is a,
20:49it's award time.
20:50So I think I know your answer to this and I think I have the same
20:53answer.
20:54The Patriots MVP at the mid season point.
20:56Yes or no.
20:57Is Ramondry Stevens.
20:58Yeah,
20:59for me,
21:00for me,
21:01it is.
21:02I mean,
21:03but you could,
21:04I mean,
21:05yeah,
21:06he's crazy.
21:07That's the only,
21:08and he's had a,
21:09he had a rough start to the season,
21:10but yeah,
21:11he is your most talented player on the team in my book.
21:14I agree.
21:15And well,
21:16the talent is going to go to a guy that I'm gonna talk about a
21:19little bit later,
21:20but it is amazing.
21:21As you said that this guy fumbled four times in four games,
21:24and you were looking at him as the MVP because the other
21:27numbers here are five touchdowns far and away more than anyone
21:30else in the team.
21:31He has had 27 tackles that he's broken or dodged and he's
21:35averaging Christian over 3.1 yards per carry after contact.
21:41Yeah.
21:42So we're talking about an offensive line.
21:44That's not creating holes for him.
21:46And he says,
21:47that's okay.
21:48I will still average more than all due respect.
21:50Probably,
21:51you know,
21:52an old teammate Antoine Smith had,
21:54you know,
21:55once upon a time,
21:56he was rough for years,
21:57tougher lines.
21:58He's saying,
21:59I will now,
22:00he's going back.
22:01Yeah.
22:02Yeah.
22:03Now I just got older.
22:04It's 3.19,
22:053.2 yards per carry.
22:06After contact is an insane number.
22:08Not amazing.
22:09That just,
22:10there's amazing.
22:11He's creating in a way that you see it.
22:13Drake may.
22:14Cause we're all watching the quarterback elevate the offense.
22:16I can do something when nothing is available.
22:18That's what reminder he's been doing from week one.
22:21Imagine if he didn't have them.
22:23Imagine if he didn't have those numbers are unbelievable.
22:26I'm I'm fine with numbers.
22:27I think that is remarkable.
22:29What he's able to do yards after contact initial hits.
22:33He shreds them.
22:34He goes up field.
22:35He just,
22:36the dude is so such a special back with such.
22:39It's such a combination of speed and balance and toughness.
22:43It's just,
22:44it's just a great back,
22:45man.
22:46All right.
22:47Offensive player of the year.
22:48This is harder.
22:49We got to take Stevenson off of the table.
22:51Oh,
22:52he's off players.
22:53Oh,
22:54okay.
22:55I got one.
22:56You know how they do MVP and like,
22:57Oh,
22:58Lamar Jackson one,
22:59but someone else gets offensive player of the year.
23:00Cause you just can't double up.
23:01It's stupid.
23:02Yeah.
23:03By the rules here.
23:04Who do you got?
23:05Hunter Henry.
23:06Hunter Henry is my best offensive player.
23:09It's not just because it was tight in weekend,
23:11wherever the stupid thing was.
23:13He's the most reliable.
23:15He's the most reliable out of anybody on that offense.
23:19Other than more than Stevenson.
23:21I mean,
23:22he has some issues penalty wise,
23:23which I wish he would,
23:24you know,
23:25clean up,
23:26but well starts Miami.
23:27I,
23:28the dude just catches everything they throw to him.
23:30He's always in the right spot.
23:31It's,
23:32it's,
23:33he's just reliable.
23:34I mean,
23:35he's,
23:36he's just so reliable.
23:37Imagine you can't throw the ball to the outside.
23:39So,
23:40and your only real weapon is,
23:41is,
23:42is Hunter Henry and Hooper.
23:43You know,
23:44I wish they'd involve him a little bit more,
23:45but for me,
23:46it's,
23:47it's easily Hunter Henry.
23:48Spoken like a,
23:49a true former tight end.
23:50What do you think it is?
23:51Look,
23:52we are two for two and it's more than that.
23:56Then,
23:57then the Henry one,
23:58though,
23:59when you look at their efficiency numbers,
24:01what are your yards per play?
24:02They're much better when Hooper and Henry on the field versus when they go to 11
24:06personnel,
24:07which is problematic because pop Douglas is their best receiver.
24:10And he's the guy coming off the field for Austin Hooper.
24:12But that's a conversation for another day.
24:13What are,
24:14because I had the same answer for the same reasons.
24:17It's Hunter Henry,
24:18most consistent,
24:19most reliable.
24:20And you saw it early in that final game winning drive against the jets.
24:23That's where Jacoby preset is going.
24:25It's tight coverage.
24:26It's made a man.
24:27It's a jet saying we have dudes and you don't.
24:29And Jacoby preset throws to Hunter Henry who makes the catch 12 yards first
24:32down.
24:33But as a tight end,
24:34what are you seeing when you watch him?
24:36That may be some other folks are missing either at the top of the route
24:39when he's blocking the tempo of his routes.
24:41Like,
24:42what do you like?
24:43I'm telling you the,
24:44the it's,
24:45this is,
24:46this is the beauty of really all positions.
24:47And in my opinion,
24:49speed is so overrated.
24:51What's the most,
24:52the most important thing I'll just say in that position is the ability to
24:57understand voids and spacing and movement of the defense and not running
25:03into coverage and turning and settling or shifting.
25:07When you need to shift,
25:08you're right in front of the quarterback.
25:10He's looking right at you.
25:11So if you,
25:12if you,
25:13if you run into coverage,
25:14you're just going to make it easy.
25:15Stop three yards short shift to the left.
25:17He'll,
25:18he'll find you.
25:19That is his greatest gift.
25:20You know,
25:21you assume that he can catch the ball.
25:23It's a plus.
25:24He's not a great blocker.
25:25He's not really doing much damage on the edge.
25:28That's not what,
25:29what he is,
25:30but he gets in the way and he's willing.
25:33That's important.
25:34But his greatest asset is his ability to find voids in space.
25:38That's it.
25:39All those other shifty slot receivers,
25:41they all had the same thing.
25:42They were just faster at it.
25:43But that to me is his greatest asset.
25:45Kelsey does it.
25:46They just know where to go.
25:48They just like someone tells me.
25:50And then,
25:51and then the next level is the,
25:54is the freedom that you get when you share a brain with the quarterback.
25:57Hey,
25:58you listen.
25:59I know we,
26:00it says 10 yards now,
26:01but why would I do that?
26:02I know you see the same thing.
26:03I'm going to start.
26:04I'm going to stop three yards short.
26:06I'm going to shift to the left.
26:07Find me easy,
26:08easy.
26:09He's,
26:10he's,
26:11that's why he's great.
26:12They're running so many,
26:13like those little stick concepts,
26:15right?
26:16Go up.
26:17You call it a button hook turn,
26:18right?
26:19And it's usually for spacing against zone or a little out versus man.
26:21And teams know that.
26:22So say,
26:23I'm going to do that at eight yards.
26:24That's where you'll either take it.
26:25Maybe 45 degree angle up the field or go a little bit shorter.
26:28Like you're talking about because,
26:29you know,
26:30Travis Kelsey is not what he was athletically.
26:31Everyone can see that,
26:32but he's still one of the most dangerous weapons in the NFL because he has
26:35the freedom to freelance against own coverage.
26:38And I think that is the next level,
26:39which so.
26:40And that is elite.
26:41That is elite.
26:42That's with all the receivers too,
26:43because can you imagine if every receiver literally ran the route exactly
26:48how it was on the sheet?
26:49No one,
26:50you would,
26:51you would get your numbers,
26:52but you wouldn't do anything special.
26:54What the ability to adapt and improvise has got to be part of your
26:58offensive game plan.
26:59It has got to be.
27:00But when you have young receivers,
27:02inconsistent receivers that who don't understand one,
27:05the coverage to what the,
27:07what,
27:08what we're really trying to do with the route and how we're truly trying
27:11to attack them.
27:12You just,
27:13you'll just get basic numbers.
27:14You know,
27:15there's nothing to brag about.
27:16Well,
27:17it's like quarterback play,
27:18you know,
27:19like,
27:20Hey,
27:21you know,
27:22if you're like Anthony Richardson in Indianapolis and you can run around
27:24and throw bombs,
27:25you need to first master the three,
27:27five step drop,
27:28hit your back foot,
27:29boom,
27:30hit the slant or the dig behind it,
27:32go through your progression reads.
27:33Then you can advance.
27:34You know,
27:35it's like if you were teaching your kids how to drive,
27:37like you need to know how to go to stop sign versus kind of roll
27:39through or how to get somewhere in an extra couple of minutes first,
27:41but like know the rules of the road and then you can bend.
27:43Yeah.
27:44You know what?
27:45My dad used to,
27:46my dad was a cop homicide,
27:47LA detective,
27:48all that stuff for the LA County sheriffs.
27:50And he used to always say,
27:51there's the letter of the law and then there's the spirit of the law.
27:54And that's,
27:55that's what we're talking about.
27:56The letter of the law says you run 10 yards and you turn,
27:58right?
27:59The spirit of a law says,
28:00well,
28:01you know what?
28:02Maybe I should do this.
28:03You know,
28:04that's the attitude that you need to have.
28:06And man,
28:07I wish we had time to rip Anthony Richardson,
28:09maybe another show.
28:10Oh,
28:11you have your own show.
28:12So you can do that.
28:13Coach,
28:14coach to sub out.
28:15All right.
28:16Defensive player of the year,
28:17Christian Gonzalez,
28:18I think is the obvious answer.
28:19Yeah.
28:20I mean,
28:21who else is a close second?
28:22I,
28:23if there is a second,
28:24I don't think it's close because you're looking at all their best
28:27defenders are either injured out or traded on the commissioner's
28:30exemplist.
28:31And my God,
28:32why can't I remember the guy's name?
28:33The defense.
28:34And why am I forgetting his name?
28:35He's a psychopath.
28:3699.
28:37Yeah.
28:38It's the only other answer.
28:39Yeah.
28:40Yeah.
28:41Yeah.
28:42Sorry.
28:43I forgot that now.
28:44Yeah.
28:45He's he's a,
28:46yeah,
28:47he is.
28:48Yeah.
28:49He's a,
28:50he's in a good way,
28:51in a good way.
28:52Like he's one of those guys where in a good way,
28:53in a good way,
28:54man,
28:55that in a good way,
28:56he's one of those guys where you just know he's got bad
28:58intentions and,
28:59you know,
29:00and if you disrespect him or somebody he's with,
29:02he's going to do something about it.
29:03He's the first one in the fight.
29:04He's the last one out.
29:05He's just willing to do whatever it takes.
29:07He's been,
29:08he started off really strong.
29:09He would be my second.
29:10Yeah.
29:11Personally,
29:12because I think.
29:13Teams have to identify him.
29:14I think teams need to understand where he's at.
29:15I think the word is out that he could wreck a play.
29:16He could make a play in a timely manner.
29:17He could win one on one.
29:18He's just sometimes he's a little out of control,
29:19but I'm totally fine with it.
29:20Yeah.
29:21Yeah.
29:22I love him though.
29:23I love him.
29:24He's a,
29:25would it surprise you to know he's a bouncer?
29:26He was a bouncer in college.
29:27He was a bouncer in college.
29:28Yeah.
29:29Yeah.
29:30Yeah.
29:31Yeah.
29:32Yeah.
29:33Yeah.
29:34Yeah.
29:35Yeah.
29:36Yeah.
29:37Yeah.
29:38Yeah.
29:39Yeah.
29:40Yeah.
29:41Yeah.
29:42Yeah.
29:43Yeah.
29:44Yeah.
29:45Yeah.
29:46Yeah.
29:47Yeah.
29:48Yeah.
29:49Yeah.
29:50Yeah.
29:51Yeah.
29:52Yeah.
29:53Yeah.
29:54Yeah.
29:55Yeah.
29:56Yeah.
29:57Yeah.
29:58Yeah.
29:59Yeah.
30:00Yeah.
30:01Yeah.
30:02Yeah.
30:03Oh yeah.
30:04I think so was I,
30:05like I think most,
30:06most football players.
30:07Oh yeah.
30:08Most football.
30:09I dude,
30:10I've worked at this country bar in the San Fernando Valley.
30:11did anyone pop up on you?
30:13Oh yeah, man.
30:14I, it was, I remember I got to the point
30:16and I was like, this bartender was like,
30:18hey man, you got to kick these guys out.
30:21And I said, okay, I have to leave.
30:22And the guy go gets, he goes and he gets a tire iron
30:25and he's yelling my name to come out and fight him.
30:27I'm like, they don't, you don't pay me enough money
30:29to do this.
30:30Like, I'm like, I wasn't even 21.
30:32I was like 20.
30:33I lied about my age to get the job.
30:36But no, it's, it's a horrible job.
30:38He had left, like to his car to get that tire iron?
30:41He went to his car.
30:42We, we escorted him out.
30:45He was out.
30:45He was kicked out.
30:46We escorted him out.
30:47Yeah, he didn't like it.
30:48It's just, it's a terrible environment.
30:50Nobody, like at the end of the night,
30:52everybody's either in a really good mood, you're right.
30:55And then, or they're really shitty, irritable mood.
30:58And we always got the guys that were in a crappy mood
31:00and they're in a country bar.
31:01They all think they're, they're cowboys.
31:03There wasn't a horse within 500 miles of this bar, you know?
31:08Yeah.
31:09All right, next time we're going to delve more
31:11into those stories.
31:12Cause I, I want, I have so many more questions,
31:14but Christian Gonzalez, look,
31:16he gave up zero catches to Devante Adams.
31:18They played a ton of man-to-man coverage.
31:19He, like Keone White, I think has been emblematic
31:23in a way of the season, right?
31:24They both kill it against the Bengals.
31:27They both play well against the Jets.
31:28They win those games.
31:29There are some struggles in between.
31:31Christian's been more consistent.
31:32I think he's more talented than Keone White.
31:34He's your defensive player of the year.
31:35So far, it's mid-season.
31:36Make it surprise.
31:37I'm going to go negative here.
31:38It's the run defense.
31:39They're fourth worst by pro football focus,
31:42fourth worst by DBOA, four and a half yards to carry.
31:45We've all watched it.
31:45They've given up over 190 yards in a single game,
31:48multiple times to bad rushing offenses.
31:51This is something that I think even surprised the Patriots.
31:54Cause you heard as well as I did.
31:55Drive Mayo after week one, go ahead.
31:57Here's the deal.
31:58We're always going to have a good run defense.
32:00And look, that's media and that's messaging.
32:01And I think he learned from that.
32:02And they've had injuries, which are important.
32:04The spine of their defense, Barmore, Bentley, Peppers,
32:07right down the middle, like a baseball team.
32:09You can't have those players suck
32:11and put on a good product,
32:12but they have been lower than suck for stretches this year.
32:15As I just said, bottom five by a lot of metrics.
32:17Yeah, I'm with you.
32:19I was trying to think of a special teams aspect,
32:22but I would, I'd still say, because this is,
32:26it's so cliche.
32:27Cliches are, they're cliches because they're true.
32:31They're running the football and stopping the run.
32:33If you are, or you are incapable of fighting back
32:39and you just look just depressed and just,
32:42and you just want to give up
32:43because you can't do anything about it.
32:45They keep running the ball and you can't stop them.
32:48You just get demoralized and you feel your self-worth
32:51is in the toilet and there's no answer.
32:54And so you try a different technique.
32:55You do this, do that.
32:56It just doesn't work.
32:57The only reason why they got a break last week
33:00because the Jets were stupid.
33:02One, their run offense was not, it's not great,
33:05but they still didn't want to take advantage of it.
33:08So yeah, and that's got to hurt Jarrod a lot
33:11in Covington a lot because man, listen,
33:14I know we got some good receivers out there
33:16and this game is about speed and, you know,
33:19and all these receivers getting paid all this big money.
33:22If we're going to hang our hat on anything,
33:24let's just be really good at stopping the run.
33:27That's it.
33:28If we suck at pass defense, I'm fine with it.
33:30What we can't do is let the league know
33:34that they can pick on us.
33:37Right.
33:38And that's what they've been doing.
33:39Run fits and just pad level,
33:42things that should be non-negotiable
33:44and being gap sound or things that they're missing.
33:47And things that they can fix.
33:48Things that they can fix that.
33:50And they made progress against the Jets
33:51who had just four yards to carry.
33:52Went from five in the first half
33:54to three allowed in the second.
33:56And so there was progress there.
33:57And we talk about the Jets don't have a great running game.
33:59That's more to do with the offensive line.
34:00It's not Brees Hall.
34:01It's not Braylon Allen.
34:02Yeah, but still it's still a group thing, right?
34:06Right.
34:07And most of that line stinks in that regard.
34:08Honorable mention for a positive
34:09and then we'll get to biggest disappointment.
34:11For me as a safety group without Duggar and Peppers,
34:13like Del Pettis is an undrafted rookie
34:15who's played 112 defensive snaps.
34:17You want to guess how many tackles he's missed?
34:20Oh, geez.
34:21A lot.
34:21Zero.
34:22Zero.
34:23Oh, no.
34:24This is a positive honorable mention.
34:25Zero for Del Pettis.
34:27Marte Mapu, his first game back off of PUP,
34:29wearing the green dot in a game you should have beat Miami,
34:33but they allow 15 points.
34:34He plays all of the snaps.
34:35Jalen Hawkins has been very good in coverage.
34:37Dropped the pick that we saw from him
34:39and he's missed some tackles.
34:40But like that's a guy who was a special teamer.
34:41Came in.
34:42When you're down, Duggar, Peppers is out of the picture now.
34:45And those three guys have to carry you
34:47because this is a nickel defense at its core.
34:48Like I've been impressed.
34:50I like what I saw from those guys.
34:51So, man, when I look at their defense,
34:55I wish I was playing when these guys were playing.
34:59These tiny little linebackers.
35:01There's no punch to anything that they're doing.
35:05They're all will linebackers.
35:06They're Donnie Edwards.
35:07Another blast from the past.
35:09Can I go special teams for honorable mention?
35:11Yeah, yeah.
35:12Schooler.
35:14All day long.
35:15All day long.
35:16He has a lot of pride in his work.
35:19He's tough to handle.
35:20He shows up all the time.
35:22That's the thing.
35:23All the time.
35:24And all four and every single aspect of special teams,
35:27that guy's showing up.
35:29He's a big part of just the overall hope of success.
35:36That guy's a keeper.
35:38All right, let's breeze through the last couple here
35:39and we'll get a quick thought on past Titans.
35:41Biggest disappointment.
35:42I'm gonna just go to the receiver room.
35:44And this is someone who said
35:45this might be a bottom five group in the league.
35:47But you have four or five drops against the Jets.
35:50Kendrick Bourne is not getting open.
35:52KJ Osborne is separating the least of anyone
35:54in the league at the catch point.
35:55Jayvon Baker can't see the field.
35:56Jalen Polk I think will bounce back.
35:58But two catches and three drops
36:00in your last 13 targets in the last three weeks.
36:03This is, ugh.
36:07See, I feel like, see, my end is the offensive line
36:09and I feel like we can't pick on them for some reason.
36:13I agree.
36:14Is it, I feel like, well, you know,
36:16it's like the seven or eight different combinations.
36:18They're all new.
36:19Some guy's just showing up.
36:20I shouldn't expect them to be good.
36:23I did expect a little bit more
36:24from the wide receivers, I'm sure.
36:26But again, you had a couple of rookies in there,
36:28a couple of guys that have, you know, free agents,
36:31guys that were hurt.
36:32I mean, I think it's a toss up
36:35between the offensive line and the receivers.
36:40I mean, can I just go push on this one?
36:42Yeah, yeah, sure.
36:43And we, again, acknowledging that no one expected
36:45the offensive line to dominate this year.
36:47And you throw in all the injuries.
36:49The fact that last Sunday was the first time all season
36:51they had a starting lineup
36:52that had started to get together before that game,
36:55making their second collective start together
36:57with a guy at center who wasn't even on the team
36:58four weeks ago in Ben Brown.
37:00And that's why I feel like they get a break.
37:02I feel like we cut them some slack.
37:04And for a similar reason,
37:05though these guys are also paid professionals and adults,
37:08coaching to me would be in that category too.
37:11Biggest disappointment, more defensively.
37:13And they've had a ton of injuries
37:14and Covington's new and it's a smaller staff,
37:16but like you just expect it a little bit better.
37:18But I belabored coaching,
37:19written about it, criticized in multiple columns.
37:20Everyone knows why and how.
37:22Let's get to a bold second half prediction.
37:24So the Patriots have nine games left.
37:26I don't know if Drake May is going to play in all nine.
37:28I don't know if he's going to play Sunday
37:30as we record here Wednesday.
37:31And he's going through concussion protocol.
37:33I do think though, he will at least tie for the team lead
37:37in rushing touchdowns by the end of the season
37:39on scrambles and garbage time.
37:41And in some quarterback design stuff
37:42that we haven't seen yet.
37:43And reminder, Stephenson right now
37:44is a four touchdown lead on him, Christian.
37:46I don't think this is crazy.
37:48I think if you are someone who is inclined to play fantasy,
37:51pick him up.
37:51I know Doug Hyde has,
37:53and I think he will finish tied for the team lead.
37:55If not, leave the team outright in rushing touchdowns.
37:57Wow.
37:58Okay.
37:59See, cause my thing is that, you know,
38:02once you play, the teams are not going to let him run
38:05anymore.
38:06Well, they're going to try.
38:07I mean, it's not right.
38:08It's funny.
38:09It's like first, it's like first, I know.
38:12Right.
38:13What a dope.
38:15It's like first time, shame on, shame on you.
38:18Second time, shame on me.
38:19That whole thing.
38:20I just don't think they're going to give him lanes anymore.
38:22He guys, the guy can run.
38:23He's looking to run.
38:24Don't do it.
38:26I'm going to go negative because I do.
38:30I still believe it's going to get worse.
38:32What I think Drake may,
38:33and I'll stick with the quarterback too.
38:35When you look at who knows when he plays,
38:38but I think his interception total is going to,
38:42is going to overtake his total touchdown totals,
38:47throwing and rushing.
38:49I do.
38:50I think he's been lucky.
38:53He's been lucky.
38:53He could have, should have had a pick six
38:55a couple of weeks ago.
38:56Should have had two interceptions.
38:59It's like defensive against that,
39:00that London game against Jacksonville.
39:02One of those throws should have been a pick six.
39:03Guy can't hold onto the ball.
39:05And he threw another one.
39:06The guy just dropped.
39:07That's coming.
39:08And I only say that not just to pick on it
39:10because it's just,
39:12I hate to always do this,
39:13but he's these rookies are due for this type of
39:16just mental breakdown.
39:18And maybe because he has to start the whole season,
39:20maybe he kind of avoids it.
39:23And maybe we see it last year,
39:24but it happens to all of them.
39:25All of them.
39:26They just see ghosts.
39:27They don't see straight.
39:29They get tricked.
39:30Defensive coordinators understand how to bait them.
39:33They play against a better quarterback
39:34that just kind of sees something
39:36and they just wait for it.
39:37They jumped the route.
39:38They take it back.
39:40They hate to be negative as we end the show,
39:42but yeah, I'm going to say that his interceptions,
39:44his total interceptions will,
39:50so I go, what do you say?
39:51Russian touchdowns.
39:52It will be higher than his total touchdowns,
39:53which I think is crazy because I think,
39:55as I just said,
39:56he's going to get the Russian touchdowns.
39:56You said bold?
39:57But no, no, it is bold.
40:00The point about the three interception game coming,
40:02that's absolutely true.
40:03For him, it's a matter of risk avoidance
40:08versus what he's going to find out,
40:09what he can get away with, right?
40:11For example, like scrambling and throwing
40:12that long touchdown, or not touchdown pass,
40:14long pass to Tyquan Thornton,
40:16who dropped it in the first quarter,
40:17is an extended play, off schedule, rolling out.
40:21Maybe I can fit this in 50 yards downfield.
40:22Maybe I can't.
40:23He found out that he could, which is a possible
40:25because the Patriots need plays like that,
40:27but it will also embolden him to try things
40:29that he shouldn't.
40:30And that is where I think you will see
40:31some of the interceptions.
40:32I don't think this is going to happen
40:33over the entire season,
40:35but the game that you're talking about,
40:36Brady had them in his second year.
40:38All of them led the league in picks.
40:39His first season, it's a rookie thing.
40:42And he's got every kind of qualifier for that game.
40:46Inconsistent, young receivers who are on and off the field.
40:49Yeah, protection.
40:50An offensive line that is all over the place.
40:52He's going to end up panicking and be reckless,
40:55and he's going to try and make a play.
40:56And I would throw in the fact that he's going to scramble
40:58and there's going to be a fumble return for a touchdown.
41:00That's coming also.
41:01Oh my God.
41:03See, when I throw you those lifelines
41:05and talk about this has happened,
41:07and people have done this, and this is why,
41:07and it's a good thing.
41:08I'm trying to throw you a lifeline, not him.
41:10Like, he'll be fine.
41:11Everyone loves him.
41:12This is, everyone loves Drake May,
41:14self-included as far as a football player
41:16and a prospect of what he'll do,
41:17but rookie growing pains, you do as well.
41:20I just, we're going to get out of here.
41:22All right, two last things.
41:23What do you want to see from this team in second half?
41:25The easy answer is win.
41:26The easy answer is build a culture, be close,
41:28be competitive, yada, yada.
41:29We know they're going to finish with a losing record,
41:31probably by a wide margin.
41:33My thing is simple.
41:34Just better protection for Drake May.
41:36This needs to be an environment
41:38where you feel like you can evaluate not only him,
41:40but the other young players on the team.
41:42If you have too many injuries, inconsistent coaching,
41:44bad situations, you don't know what you have
41:46because they're not put in,
41:48basically what you would call
41:49is like a clean enough lab, right?
41:50If you have contamination of all the different samples
41:53or whatever you're measuring,
41:54and there's a ton of noise, or it's just not clean enough,
41:56like you need to create a situation.
41:58I can evaluate this quarterback.
41:59I know what I need to give him
42:01and the receivers and the offensive linemen around.
42:04All right, so I'm not going to be as technical as you.
42:07I just want it to be respectable.
42:10I just want it to be competitive.
42:12I don't want it to be a laughingstock.
42:14I'm fine if you get physically beat up.
42:17I'm totally fine with that.
42:19What I don't want to see is just pockets here
42:23or pockets there or finger pointing.
42:25I just want to see, if they just show me some fight
42:29and it's what I'm looking at is respectable.
42:33And all I'm doing is like,
42:34well, they just don't have the talent yet,
42:36but man, they know what it takes to win.
42:38They just don't have the pieces yet.
42:40That's all I want to see.
42:41That's it.
42:42And so far it hasn't been the case.
42:46So the second half of the season,
42:49that's what I want to see.
42:50I think that's fair.
42:52Speaking of fight,
42:53they're going to see a little bit from Tennessee.
42:55Titans are three and a half point favorites
42:56as we speak right now, which feels a little bit crazy,
42:59but when you look again at the deeper metrics,
43:00Patriots are 31st by DVOA overall.
43:02They are two and six.
43:03Titans are one and six.
43:04They just lost 52 to 14 to Detroit
43:07because of their league worst special teams.
43:09Before that lost 34 to 10 to the Bills.
43:11Before that, 20 to 17 at home to the Colts.
43:14And before that, 31 to 12 versus Miami.
43:16Their only win this season coming at the expense
43:19of the Seahawks, or excuse me, that's a preseason.
43:21We are looking earlier at the Dolphins.
43:23So they actually beat the Dolphins 31 to 12.
43:25I can read.
43:26They have the ninth best defense by DVOA.
43:29Again, their special teams is the worst.
43:31Their offense is bottom five.
43:32This is an ugly take the under kind of game.
43:35You know, again, May starting versus Brissette
43:38is going to be a big deal.
43:40We don't know where that is yet right now as we record.
43:42What else are you just looking for here?
43:44Understanding they just got spanked.
43:45The Patriots are coming off of a win
43:47and this should at very least be a physical football game.
43:51To me, the formula will be the same the entire year.
43:55What they need to do because they're not as talented
43:58and they're dealing with so many different issues.
44:00If they just, and this is easier said than done,
44:03just play what I would call a clean game.
44:06Hey, you know what?
44:08So big deal.
44:09They get a 10 yard return on punt return.
44:12Big deal.
44:12Don't have a penalty.
44:13Hey, you know what?
44:14It's third and sixth.
44:16Hey, pre-snap, don't have a penalty.
44:17Don't make it harder on ourselves.
44:20Defense.
44:21You don't have to be great.
44:22Just be good.
44:23Just be good.
44:24Let the other guy make a bunch of mistakes.
44:27If their special teams are crap,
44:29take advantage of it, exploit it.
44:31You just don't give them any short fields
44:34and easy opportunities.
44:36The reason why they beat the Cincinnati Bengals
44:37because they were opportunistic.
44:39The Bengals couldn't get out of their own way.
44:41Short fields, turnovers gave them shorter fields,
44:44easier scoring opportunities,
44:47and the defense gave themselves a little help.
44:49So to me, that's the formula for this team
44:52against any team.
44:54So you have a team like Tennessee that just got whooped.
44:57You're hoping like, what's, are they even into this?
44:59Are they like looking at, they're like,
45:01oh, what should I do for the off season?
45:03Are their bags packed?
45:04Maybe.
45:05That's hard to overcome when somebody puts 50 plus on you.
45:09You have a hard time looking yourself in the mirror.
45:11So I think that all this game is winnable for the Patriots.
45:16Easily winnable.
45:17Yeah.
45:18I'm still looking at the first quarter.
45:20I don't think it's an accident.
45:21And I understand that they had to overcome Drake May
45:24leaving the first quarter
45:25when they get that first touchdown,
45:27you start fast again and the Jets answered,
45:29but it just gives you a little bit of confidence,
45:32like proof of concept.
45:33Hey, we can go out here and do this
45:35and to keep it close later,
45:36because we know if they're playing from behind,
45:39that game for the most part is over.
45:41Like that's just what it is.
45:42And I understand how they finished against the Jets
45:44who for whatever reason lost their minds
45:46and changed their entire game plan for that last drive
45:48after what had largely worked against Jacoby Percet
45:52in the middle quarters.
45:52But I think you need to go in there,
45:54assert some control over the game,
45:56dictate terms to them,
45:58and make Mason Rudolph or Will Levis, whoever it is,
46:01catch up and play from behind.
46:02Because the first team that has to do that,
46:03I think is in real trouble.
46:06Yeah, no, I'm with you.
46:10And what I would say, the other aspect,
46:12see if Drake May's not playing,
46:14the past couple of games, it's been run, run.
46:17First series for the Patriots offense, run, run,
46:20obvious third down pass.
46:21No gain, no gain, third and seven, third and eight.
46:25I would start out in two tight end sets,
46:28I would flex them out,
46:29and I would throw the freaking ball.
46:32That's what I would do.
46:33I would let them match you.
46:35I think that's your best position,
46:39like your best offensive group is the two tight end set.
46:42Little seven yard stick route,
46:45but if you want to take it,
46:45you want to improvise Hunter Henry,
46:47you do your thing, man,
46:48because you have earned that with the official
46:50mid-season offensive player of the year award
46:52from Chris Poirier and yours truly.
46:54It's been great to have you back, man.
46:55I can't wait to chat again.
46:57Again, Coach to Win is the new show,
46:59but you can't find bartender stories here.
47:01They will only be on the next time when we have you back.
47:04Oh, bartender, excuse me, bouncer, bouncer.
47:06Bouncer, I wish I was a bartender.
47:08Hell, that was easier.
47:09Yeah, no, bouncer.
47:11Yeah, we'll do that next time.
47:12Honest to God, we'll just do,
47:13we'll just call it uncomfortable stories from my past.
47:17Okay, this is not therapy.
47:18If it is, I'm going to charge you more for that episode.
47:21Appreciate you, buddy.
47:23All right, buddy, sounds good.
47:24Special Halloween edition of the four minute drill
47:26here with Christian Gonzalez, who I just informed.
47:29It's also a special edition
47:30because we've crowdsourced some questions.
47:32We have questions from your teammates.
47:33You don't know what they want me to ask you,
47:36but I think you're going to enjoy it
47:36and they're going to go right off the top.
47:37So here we go.
47:38Question number one,
47:40how much money do you spend on TikTok?
47:43On TikTok, ooh, I actually just made an order
47:47like probably an hour ago.
47:48What'd you buy?
47:50What did I buy?
47:52Bought some snacks, a rug, some decorations for the house.
47:59TikTok got some good stuff on there.
48:00All right.
48:01When you're at home, you're playing Call of Duty.
48:03Someone wants to know, why are you so bad?
48:06Who asked this one?
48:07Can't tell you.
48:08They crazy.
48:10Last night I did have a bad game,
48:11but majority of the time I'm out there stepping.
48:15All right, last one.
48:16You won't guess who this is from.
48:17If you get 10 reps against Pop Douglas,
48:19why are you losing all 10?
48:21He crazy.
48:22That's why he ain't ask me.
48:23He ain't ask me, but he going to win some,
48:25but I like me over him.
48:27Okay.
48:28In the spirit of Halloween,
48:29what spooks Christian Gonzalez the most?
48:34What speaks to me the most?
48:37I don't know.
48:38Nothing?
48:39Spiders, snakes, a guy running to the end zone
48:41who's too far away for even you to catch up and watch?
48:44Yeah.
48:45Giving up touchdowns.
48:46How about KB?
48:47Cause he's over there making noise.
48:48Is he scary at all?
48:49No, no, no, no, no, no.
48:51Not many people know this.
48:52Your brother-in-law is David Blau,
48:54ex-quarterback in the NFL, now coaching with Washington.
48:57How badly would you like to intercept your brother-in-law?
49:01Oh yeah, of course.
49:02Of course I would want to intercept my brother-in-law.
49:05Oh yeah, of course.
49:06Of course I would want to.
49:08That'd be crazy.
49:09He wouldn't like it, obviously.
49:12But I mean, I wish I got a chance, but it's all right.
49:15Any backyard games with the family?
49:18Oh yeah, for sure.
49:19We always talk smack me and him.
49:21Did you pick him in the backyard?
49:24I probably have sometimes.
49:25I don't remember, but he ain't complete nothing on me.
49:32Do you believe in ghosts?
49:33No.
49:34No?
49:35All right, what's the worst advice a coach ever gave you?
49:39Worst advice a coach ever gave me?
49:43Could be any sport, any level, anything.
49:44Something simple, and you're like,
49:45that just ain't right the second you heard it.
49:48You have to be able to lift a lot of weight
49:51to be a good football player.
49:52Oh, well, there you go.
49:54What's the least amount of weight you can do?
49:56Like, you're obviously plenty athletic speed.
49:59This is not a test of your manhood.
50:00You just admitted, in some degree,
50:02you can't lift a whole lot.
50:02Bench is what?
50:03Like, what are you maxing out at?
50:05Yeah.
50:06I ain't maxed out in a long time.
50:07I don't know.
50:09Once you get out of high school, you don't really max out.
50:11I mean, in college, I couldn't tell you.
50:16I ain't maxed out probably in about four years, so.
50:18All right, there you go.
50:19Let's go with this one.
50:20If you could hit this teammate every day in practice,
50:22who would it be?
50:26Dial, Marcellus.
50:28A fellow corner, wow.
50:30Defense on defense crying.
50:31Why Marcellus?
50:32He's a rookie.
50:33He's my young bud.
50:34I gotta get him right.
50:35All right.
50:36Christian Gonzalez is out at a bar,
50:37or he's out at the movies.
50:39He's out anywhere.
50:39What's his best pickup line, aside from,
50:41I play for the New England Patriots?
50:43Oh, you ain't getting that out of me.
50:45I ain't bringing nothing football related up.
50:48Nothing?
50:49We just talked about ghosts and lifting.
50:52Oh, you're saying at the bar, the club,
50:53you're not bringing up that you play at all?
50:54No, not at all.
50:55Okay, so what do you say?
50:59I don't know.
51:00It depends.
51:02I don't know.
51:03I ain't saying nothing.
51:04I'll let them approach.
51:05You'll let them approach.
51:06Okay, plenty cool.
51:08Teammates always say,
51:09I want this teammate to have my back in the trenches.
51:11This is a dog.
51:12He'll have my back.
51:13Who is that number one teammate for you?
51:20Or you can go the opposite.
51:21Who's at the end of the list?
51:23And guys have answered this question before.
51:24Who do you want least having your back in the trenches?
51:27Um, I'll go to the first one, Keyon.
51:32Keyon, all right.
51:33Self-explanatory.
51:34Two more real quick.
51:35We got five seconds left in the four minute drill.
51:37Do you have a Gerard Mayo impression?
51:39No, I ain't got one.
51:41I ain't got one.
51:41Smart man.
51:42All right, least favorite media question.
51:45Um, somebody, this happened recently
51:51that when we went to London,
51:53they asked me about if people ate bad food.
51:57What that, I don't know.
51:59That was a bad question.
52:00Okay.
52:01It got nothing to do with me,
52:02nothing to do with football.
52:03So, I mean, it was just pointless.
52:06I did see that clip.
52:06Shout out to Rich and Keith and Adam Jones, WEI.
52:09Enough about the bad food in London,
52:10though that also might've been,
52:11oh, he left, Kendrick Pornsville.
52:13Christian Gonzalez wants the ladies to know
52:14you gotta come to him.
52:15Otherwise he will be all over you in the football field.
52:18I appreciate you, man.
52:19Patriots shut down corner.

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