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Transcript

00:00This is the Greg Bidard Patriots podcast with Nick Cavins.

00:07I'm going to get you ready for the Titans matchup this weekend.

00:13Lots to talk about, including the latest on Drake May, but first download the prize picks

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00:38Before we get to football, Greg, you want to talk some baseball as last night, the Yankees

00:43lost the Dodgers.

00:44They lose the world series in five games and Greg, I'll tell you what a complete implosion

00:52by the Yankees during that game last night after going up five.

00:56Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you were, uh, I'm sure you had an eye on both games because of course

01:03the Celtics were mounting a monumental comeback against the Pacers and took it to overtime

01:08and I had that on the little TV, so I was, I was monitoring it, but I'm sure, you know,

01:14I'm sure you had it swapped.

01:16I'm sure you had, uh, the Celtics in full view in the, in the world series and the other,

01:21but, um, yeah, what have changed in events during that game?

01:25And, uh, I, I think people who listen to this know that I love baseball.

01:29I, you know, baseball is actually my sport and, uh, played it, coached it, coach softball.

01:36So, uh, you know, we are a baseball household at the Bedard's.

01:40Um, so, uh, my son was at hockey practice, but my daughter was home and she was all into

01:45it.

01:46Um, she's a big Freddie Freeman fan, so she was going nuts.

01:48But, um, I mean, the Yankees were a five, nothing and Garrett Cole was in complete command.

01:54He was unhittable.

01:55His stuff was filthy.

01:57You were like, oh my God, he's going to throw a complete game.

01:59Shut out.

02:00Uh, the Dodgers are going to have to burn through some arms, um, and it's going to go

02:06back to LA and you know, who knows?

02:08Yeah.

02:09I wouldn't rule it out that the Yankees come back, you know, 20 years from when it happened

02:13to them.

02:14Uh, that's what I was thinking at the time.

02:16And then all of a sudden Aaron judge takes his eye off a routine line drive to center

02:23field to peek at the runner at first misses the ball.

02:26Um, it's been a while since I've seen a play like that, especially in a big spot.

02:32Um, you had the fielder's choice to shortstop where, you know, I liked the decision to go

02:38to third by Volpe, but Kike Hernandez was hustling.

02:43He also slid to the outside part of the bag, which was very smart.

02:47Um, you know, a lot of base runners, especially at the youth level level, they probably would

02:52have slid to the inside part of the bag, um, thinking that there might be a tag, but you

02:57know, him sliding to the outside and also I would say jazz Chisholm not having a lot

03:03of experience at, at, at third, um, you know, look Volpe spike, spike the throw.

03:09They don't get it there.

03:11And then you have the, the play at first base where Mookie bets hits a spinner to first.

03:20And um, what's his name at first base Rizzo Rizzo.

03:25Yeah.

03:26And Rizzo, uh, gets it and he wants to flip it and Garrett Cole stopped.

03:30He just pointed to first base, like, you know, you got it.

03:33Mookie's running down the line.

03:34He's safe.

03:36Dodgers get a couple of, you know, key hits, including Freddie Freeman with the single

03:40up the middle.

03:41Um, and all of a sudden it's five, five and you're like, Holy crap.

03:45And Garrett Cole had to throw like 38 pitches that inning and it completely changed the

03:49game around.

03:50And it was all self-inflicted, uh, by the Yankees.

03:53So of course me as a Red Sox fan, I was just sitting there giggling to myself and, and

03:58loving all of it.

03:59I will say, you know, I haven't heard a whole lot of the discussion today about that play

04:04between Rizzo and Cole, but I just got to say, even in the moment, like when Mookie

04:09hit it, I was like, Oh crap, this is a spinner.

04:13He might not even feel this ball.

04:15I, I was a first baseman by trade.

04:17I've been in that position.

04:19Um, those plays are really, really hard.

04:23And basically in that situation, cause you don't know what kind of bounce you're going

04:27to get at the very end with it spinning like that.

04:29It could kick off a rock and, and go the other way.

04:33You know, basically in that, in that scenario, as a first baseman, you just want to make

04:37sure that you stop, knock the ball down, stop the ball.

04:41Um, because you don't know, it's like fielding a knuckleball, uh, basically.

04:45And so I wouldn't have been like, I definitely, if it was me, I definitely would have went

04:50down on like one knee and would have been over-exaggerating like, you know, knocking

04:54it down almost like a catcher to make sure I kept it in the infield or kept it from squirting

04:59away.

05:01You know, Cole's got to get over there.

05:03Like he, uh, you know, I know he probably thought it was a routine ground ball, but

05:07he's got to recognize the, the, the spin on that and like, oh crap, I got to get over

05:11there just in case.

05:13And so, um, yeah, what a change, what a change of events in that game.

05:18I definitely thought they were going back to LA and anything was possible.

05:21And I just got done watching the Netflix Red Sox documentary.

05:25So that was all in my mind and, but a great theater.

05:28I mean, I wanted it to go further cause I just wanted to see more of, you know, of this

05:33classic series with, you know, big hitters, superstars on each side.

05:38But, um, that, that was a fun watch last night.

05:41Yeah.

05:42I just finished watching the comeback yesterday, right before game five.

05:46So I had the same kind of feelings of, oh no, they're going to end up doing this.

05:51Even when Verdugo was up there to end the game, I'm like, watch, he's going to hit a

05:54home run, tie this game.

05:55It goes into extra innings and they're going to end up somehow winning this.

06:00But I also played first base when I was younger.

06:02So I totally agree with you on the ground ball, the Rizzo.

06:05It's a tough play.

06:06It's much tougher than people might think it is if you've actually played the game and

06:10played that position and Cole has to get over, you can't take anything for granted.

06:14I think it's interesting.

06:15You know, the Dodgers win this series in five games and I was just doing some quick math,

06:20you know, Shohei Otani was two for 19 in this series.

06:24Mookie Betts was five for 20.

06:26So Otani and Betts were combined seven for 39 and the Yankees still could only muster

06:31one game.

06:33It came down mostly to pitching and Freddie Freeman.

06:37Freeman was an absolute freaking beast.

06:39He was a nightmare.

06:40I was surprised the Yankees kept pitching to him, but it worked on a few occasions.

06:45So I can't kill them for that.

06:47I would have just walked the dude if I could every single time, because he was unbelievably

06:51in the zone the first three or four games of this series.

06:54So congratulations to the Dodgers and yes, I did enjoy watching Verdugo be the final

06:58out and I thought the strikeout was the icing on the cake.

07:03Thank you very much.

07:04No championship for you Yankees.

07:07Go cry in the corner.

07:08All right, let's get into some football here.

07:11Drake may we start with Drake may Greg, of course, he was concussed against the Jets

07:15last weekend.

07:16I am not going to be blamed for that even though I was there.

07:19My friends used to call me the angel of death, but I will say I was at the Rams Patriots

07:26Super Bowl when they won.

07:27So no angel of death here, but may was concussed.

07:31He was not at the media portion of practice yesterday, but he did throw for 30 minutes.

07:37That would mean he's in phase three.

07:38There's some confusion about phase three versus four.

07:42And really the difference is the 30 minutes, the allotted time.

07:46If may was out there beyond the 30 minutes, he's in phase four.

07:49The fact that they had to cut it off at 30 minutes, he's in phase three.

07:53As of yesterday, he was in the locker room today, Greg, they're going out on the field

07:58in just a minute as we record this.

08:00So we'll probably find out if he's out there, but just your thoughts on, on what we saw

08:05yesterday and what we heard from Gerard Mayo regarding Drake may.

08:09Yeah, I think, you know, reading the tea leaves and you know, I, when it comes to head head

08:15injuries, I'm not terribly comfortable, like, you know giving takes, I mean, I'm all for,

08:22you know, whatever the doctors say and whatever the player wants to agree to, you know, they

08:26can do, you know, whatever they want, but, you know, reading the tea leaves on what's

08:30going on.

08:31You know, it sounds like Drake may was suiting up to go to practice.

08:34That's a good sign.

08:35That meant, you know, basically, you know, every sort of step in the protocol that they

08:40go through, it's basically like, you know, they tested a little bit.

08:44Then they, then they, then they check your symptoms the next day to see if they come

08:48back or anything like that.

08:49And then if they don't, then you can, you can progress.

08:52So that Drake may was getting ready for practice tells me that that 30 minute session he bounced

09:00back fine.

09:01He didn't have any issues no symptoms.

09:03And so now he's going forward and then we'll see, you know, he'll go through a full practice

09:08today.

09:09I would anticipate him getting about, you know, probably 50% of the load today.

09:16You know, just cause you never know, like Drake could be progressing, progressing, and

09:19then all of a sudden they get to the final step and he, he, he shows symptoms.

09:24And so you have to start, you have to prepare Jacoby Bursett, you know, at least some just

09:30in case, cause you don't know these injuries are totally unpredictable, but I would say

09:34from what we see right now, I think it's, I think I would guess that that Drake may

09:40is going to start on Sunday and you know, I'm sure a lot of people will be happy about

09:44that.

09:45Yeah.

09:46The one comparison that I would make, and again, this is, this isn't apples to apples

09:50because every single concussion is different.

09:52Every single reaction to the concussion is different.

09:55So I don't want to sit here and tell you it's a guarantee, but when you look at Brock Purdy,

09:59I know NBC sports, Boston threw this up there, uh, during the week that Purdy was concussed

10:05and was able to play the next week.

10:07And that's really the only recent example of that at the quarterback position.

10:11I looked it up.

10:12Purdy was actually concussed on Monday night that happened on a Monday night football game.

10:17And he was in phase three by Thursday's practice that week, which would be Wednesday's practice

10:23for the Patriots this week.

10:25So if you're just going off of timelines and you're looking at that Brock Purdy example,

10:31Drake may is exactly where Purdy was, uh, given the difference between a Sunday and

10:36a Monday night, he's exactly where Purdy was at that point in the week after being concussed.

10:41So Purdy was able to play doesn't mean May's going to play, uh, because again, they're

10:46all different, but I do think, uh, that timeline tells us at least how Drake may feels to this

10:51point and the chance that he has of playing.

10:56Would you play Drake may Greg, even if he was cleared, Gerard Mayo said yesterday, if

11:00he's cleared by the independent neuroscientist that he feels like may, we'll be able to operate

11:08the offense.

11:09Therefore play, would you play Drake if he was cleared?

11:13Yeah, I would.

11:14I mean, you know, from the standpoint of it's my opinion from, you know, the way things

11:19went down Mayo's interaction with him at halftime, uh, that may after he got concussed

11:25and, and by the way, Adam regions, our photographer over at BSJ, um, you know, I mean, he's excellent.

11:31And he was telling GRD and I, he was like, you know, right after it happens, he's like,

11:36uh, you know, looking through his lens, cause he was all over taking photos of that sequence.

11:40He was like, I think he's concussed.

11:42Um, he looked, he looked out of it, his eyes.

11:45And the thing is, is like they, uh, there was the end of the quarter break and then

11:50Drake came out and including, he threw a dime to Keyshawn booty on third down over the middle

11:56with a bunch of crap going on.

11:59Um, so in terms of concussions in this, their severity, it looked like this was on, uh,

12:05the lighter side, uh, of that.

12:08And so, um, I do think him going through the protocol and everything, I do think it's a,

12:14you know, it's a safer bet, like, you know, for example, on the other side of the spectrum,

12:19if he was, uh, if he was like, you know, knocked out on that play and people had to come out

12:26and then they take them in, like, obviously in that circumstance, you probably want to

12:30be a little bit more cautious, but this, from all that we've seen and heard, this seems

12:36to be sort of a minor concussion.

12:39And so, um, I'm fine with him getting, you know, right back out there because I do think

12:44this is a kid, um, and he only played 11 plays last week, but, uh, the early indications

12:50are that the more he plays, the more the game slows down for him, the better he is.

12:55So yeah, just keep playing now.

12:58I do want to say, you know, cause I've heard like, I was just listening to Phil and Tom

13:03Kern on, on his podcast and you know, I do think there's a little hyperbole about how

13:10much better the offense looks and performs, you know, with Drake May, which in many respects

13:16is true.

13:18Um, you know, but let's also recognize that Jacoby Brissette has led the team to two victories.

13:26Their, their two victories had another one if Jalen Polk got his heel down.

13:31So, I mean, it's not like Jacoby Brissette's inept and the Patriots have, you know, no

13:37chance.

13:38It's an uglier game.

13:40It's not a pretty game.

13:41Uh, but you know, for the most part, you know, Jacoby Brissette has done what he was brought

13:47here to do and you know, predictably it hasn't been pretty to watch, but you know, got to

13:54hand it to the guy.

13:55He's should have led two fourth quarter comebacks and his last two games.

13:58So I just wanted to get that out there.

14:00Yeah.

14:01A few things to unpack.

14:02Um, I was uncomfortable watching the game back on Monday, knowing that may was concussed

14:08because I just, the NFL needs to figure this out.

14:12And I know it's not a flawless process and it's pretty much impossible to, to make it

14:16a flawless process, but they have one of those independent neurological neurological doctors

14:22on the sidelines and you know, they're supposed to have one job.

14:26Your one job is to pay attention to hits and see if anybody reacts.

14:30Now, a lot of times they do a great job, but it's really weird when, when it's a quarterback,

14:35we've seen instances of this, right?

14:38Tua was allowed to stay in the game, even though he got up and kind of, you know, stumbled

14:42and bumbled and fell back down and got back up.

14:44He was allowed to stay in Josh Allen a few weeks ago, clearly was knocked out his wrist

14:49and his hand goes limp and he stays in the game.

14:52And when they finally take them out, uh, he has like six minutes of real time or whatever

14:57it was.

14:58And he's right back in there.

15:00I'm watching may and he gets hit it's helmet to helmet.

15:04It's obvious.

15:05It's helmet to helmet.

15:06You can see that may takes a while to get up.

15:09He needs his teammates to help him.

15:11He's allowed to take a snap.

15:12I think the jets had a penalty on the very next play.

15:18And then they go to a commercial break and you come back from the commercial and he's

15:23still in the game.

15:25And I just, uh, and he plays, I think it was three more snaps.

15:28And by the way, one of the snaps that he takes, he was sacked.

15:33Thankfully he was not hit in the head during that sack.

15:37Thankfully he doesn't take another tough blow to the, to the helmet.

15:40And we might be talking about something much more serious, even though, you know, every

15:44concussion is serious, but we could be talking about something even more significant.

15:48As you said, Greg, we didn't see a fencing position like we've seen from Tua.

15:52We didn't see may get completely knocked out and that's on the NFL.

15:56I don't know how you allow somebody to take a helmet to helmet hit, take a while to get

16:02up off the ground, needs help from his teammates, takes a snap.

16:05Then you have a full commercial break and he's allowed to go back out there.

16:09I just, it seems like they could do a better job at times of recognizing these kinds of

16:14things.

16:15I agree with you as far as Drake may playing, if he's cleared, you play him.

16:19He's your starting quarterback.

16:21The whole idea is to get him reps, to get them out there.

16:24And I think you absolutely play him.

16:27We've got a couple more thoughts on Jacoby preset.

16:29Got a question for Greg about Jacoby.

16:31I got a question about the deadline as well.

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17:59Jacoby Brissette, Greg, was he pissed after the Jets game?

18:02And if he was pissed, who was he pissed at?

18:06I do think that he was pissed.

18:07There was definitely an edge to him.

18:09Um, after that, um, I think if I, if I had to guess, well, first of all, I don't think

18:16he was happy about the decision to bench him.

18:19Um, considering, I think in his mind, um, you know, he had played well enough or steered

18:29the ship well enough to get the Patriots in position to, uh, they beat the Bengals, had

18:34him in position to beat the Seahawks, had him in position to beat the Dolphins.

18:39Um, you know, and then the Polk play happened, um, and led them to two scoring drives in

18:44the fourth quarter against the Jets.

18:46So in his mind, I don't think, you know, at the time after the Dolphins game, when he

18:50got benched, I don't think he was happy about that.

18:53Um, he, he thought there, I think he thought that he was the scapegoat and there are players

18:58in that locker room, veteran offensive players who told me that he was made the scapegoat

19:03that somebody was going to have to, uh, pay the price.

19:06So I think there were some hard feelings about that, but I also think there's a lot, a lot

19:10of hard feelings in regards, um, to the media or some of the noise that he heard.

19:15And I, I understand it.

19:17I mean, you know, when, and this isn't anything against Zoe, but you know, when you have the,

19:23the team's radio color guy, basically like openly campaigning for Drake may not only,

19:29uh, during the season, but before the season, it was getting weak, uh, you know, stronger

19:33week after week.

19:34And you have certainly, um, members in the media who, you know, just wanted Drake may,

19:41and, you know, we're denigrating Jacoby Bursette and, you know, look, it's the job of the media

19:46to, to commentate on these things.

19:48But I just think that, I think that Jacoby heard a lot of that stuff at some point, and

19:54I think it's, it's given him a real chip on his shoulder.

19:57So, yeah, I think, I think he was pissed after that game and been like, this is what I've

20:01been doing the whole time.

20:02It's just, you know, the offense played a little bit better, the offensive line protected

20:07a little bit better.

20:08I mean, the, the pressure rate allowed by the Patriots has gone down, um, every week

20:13since Drake may became the starter.

20:14Now, some of that has to do with Drake, but Jacoby played a lot on Sunday and I only had

20:18it as like a 29% pressure rate.

20:20Um, so, uh, I, and I do think this offensive line has played well.

20:25They've, they've righted the ship with, um, you know, low at left tackle Jacobs at right

20:31tackle a winning wet, right guard, Ben Brown at center.

20:35Um, and who's playing left guard.

20:39I just Michael Jordan, uh, Michael Jordan, who's actually gotten worse in recent weeks.

20:44But, um, yeah, I think he's just like, look, if, if, if the offense was better, if AVP,

20:51if the offensive line was better, um, I would have been doing this the whole time, but I

20:57paid the price for everybody else sucking.

21:01I find it interesting.

21:03You know, if, if anybody out there criticized Jacoby before the season, when he met with

21:10the media and they asked him something, I'm going to paraphrase here, cause I can't

21:15remember the exact dialogue, but they asked him about preparing for the season.

21:18And he said something along the lines that he played some golf and he was criticized

21:22by some people like, oh, he's not taking the job seriously.

21:26You're supposed to be the starting quarterback.

21:28You're brought in, you're playing golf during the off season.

21:31If you criticize Jacoby for that, then you can't, I don't think you can criticize him

21:36for having the red ass on Sunday because that's what you wanted, right?

21:40Like you wanted the guy to be competitive.

21:42You wanted him to be ready to play and wanting to play and angry.

21:46If he doesn't play, I have absolutely zero issue with preset, uh, having that red ass.

21:52And, and, and if that helps him, uh, you know, play better or motivates him.

21:57Cool.

21:57I mean, players use different things to motivate themselves all the time.

22:00So I have no issue.

22:02And I also understand if, if, if Jacoby's hearing some of the stuff that he was

22:06certainly hearing from all sorts of corners of the media, and look, I think a lot of

22:11the stuff about his play was justified, frankly.

22:15But again, it's his point of view.

22:17And if, if that motivates him, then good, let it motivate him.

22:22And as far as the offensive line, I just want to throw this out

22:24there because I want to update this.

22:26You and I have had a lot of conversations and I put out a long tweet the other

22:30day about the Darien low, who, by the way, might not play, we'll see.

22:34We'll see if he's at practice today.

22:36He said, he's going through some things, a shoulder and an ankle, but we, we've

22:40had all the conversations in the first month, month and a half, everybody was

22:43going crazy about the offensive line and I get it and God forbid, I said, let's be

22:47patient and see if they can get healthy and let's see if they grow together.

22:51And when, when you look, when you look at the Darien low, it's pretty funny.

22:55We're halfway through the year.

22:58And when you're looking at the pro football focus, pass protection grade,

23:02and I know some people have issues with pass protection, you know, PFF and all

23:05that stuff, but if you're using a measurement, if you're using the same

23:09measurement for all players, then it's a fair measurement, whether you agree

23:13with the measurement or not, it's, you know, it's, it's still measuring all

23:16those players via the same quote unquote science Darien low, his past pro

23:22grade is 72.6, according to pro football focus.

23:26Now that is higher than second round pick Patrick, Paul, second round pick

23:31Blake Fisher, second round pick Roger Rosengarten, second round pick Kingsley

23:34Suamata, IA third round pick ahead of Cato Wallace, Brendan Coleman.

23:39That's even higher than Tyron Smith.

23:42So, and by the way, Lowe's played 255 snaps.

23:46If people want to throw the health at me, the only rookie who's played more

23:50snaps out of those names I gave you is Rosengarten and he's playing on the

23:54right side for the Ravens offensive line.

23:56He's played 361 snaps.

23:57So just about a hundred more snaps.

24:00Then low has Tyron Smith has played almost double the snaps as low.

24:04So you can have a fight there.

24:06The point is, I understand the perception of the Darien low and the

24:12reputation that, you know, he seemingly had walking into this season, but

24:18I'm just giving you the numbers I'm giving to the facts here.

24:21He he's been pretty damn good in past protection.

24:24And that's even with facing Trey Hendricks in week one in Cincinnati

24:27after only practicing a day or two.

24:29So I think this offensive line it's, it has not been nearly as terrible as it

24:36was the first month or so of the season and hopefully it gets better.

24:40Yeah.

24:40Nick, I also want to point out that Alex van Pelt has been much better in the

24:46past couple of games about helping out the tackles and, you know, keeping

24:50more people in and chipping and then getting guys out, I mean, it's been

24:55night and day from early in the season.

24:57And that was a big criticism of mine, but, you know, I do want to point out

25:01that I think he's done a much better job of spinning the dial in terms of, you

25:05know, helping guys and, you know, maybe mixing in some more quick games and

25:10three steps, three-step drops where you're not, you don't need to help

25:15and you can get guys out quickly.

25:16Like he's done a much better job in the past couple of games.

25:19And I think that's been a real factor on how the pressure rate has gone down.

25:23And that's something that I criticized him early, where it's like, dude, let's

25:27just, let's help a lot, you know, and just deal with the other stuff later,

25:32but it, you know, better late than never that he's, he's turned a corner.

25:35And I think that's helped, you know, the, the offense as a whole be, you

25:39know, more productive and consistent in the passing game.

25:42I agree.

25:42I think van Pelt has had two of his better weeks, the last two weeks.

25:46I was very critical of him, uh, you know, against, uh, against Jacksonville to a

25:52point, uh, but when you look at some of the things he, he at least made some

25:56improvements and then, you know, you look at the last, you look at last week.

26:00I thought he made some improvements there as well.

26:03So I think he has gotten better.

26:05I don't think he's great.

26:06And by the way, the vederian low stuff, I understand it's only

26:09halfway through the season.

26:10He could fall off a cliff.

26:11The other guys could improve.

26:13I evaluated it after the first quarter of the season.

26:15I evaluate after the half of the season.

26:18I'll continue to do that throughout every quarter of the year.

26:21And we'll see at the end of the season, if a Darien low was better than those

26:25rookie tackles that everybody wanted.

26:28I know some will fight back and say, Hey Nick, you know, you're drafting for

26:32upside and those guys could be better next year.

26:36And I understand, I understand that, but a few things, uh, I'm just simply

26:40stating that up to this point, low has been better than those guys.

26:43I'm not guaranteeing he'll be better for the rest of his career.

26:46I'll also say that low is 25 years old.

26:48He's pretty young.

26:49He still has some upside.

26:50If he can stay healthy, I'd also say that drafting a tackle in the second

26:55round would have cost you draft capital.

26:57You would have had to flip the pick of Kate and Wallace and Jayvon Baker.

27:01Maybe Jayvon Baker ends up being nothing.

27:03Maybe Wallace ends up being nothing, but if Wallace ends up being, you know, a

27:07starting right tackler, at least a swing tackle and you have low, then that's better

27:13off than what you would have done in the draft.

27:16And you also look at Jalen Polk for people who wanted the Patriots, maybe to move down

27:21and draft a guy or move up even Tyler Guyton, by the way, if you're wondering

27:25Tyler Guyton is well behind Vidarian low and past protection block grade for the

27:30Cowboys and Tyler Guyton told the media that the Patriots try to trade

27:34up for him in the first round.

27:35So Guyton has not even been as good as Vidarian low in past protection.

27:39So, uh, you know, and it doesn't stop you from drafting somebody in 2025.

27:45If the Darien low ends up being a very good stop gap and you end up drafting the

27:49future of left tackle and the 2025 draft, then really what the hell are we talking

27:53about?

27:54So, uh, I just wanted to point that out because I still see people, um, you know,

28:00going bananas about, oh, they could have went out and they could have traded for

28:03Cam Robinson or they could go get this guy.

28:05Why are the fact is with Darien low has been pretty good.

28:09So that's it.

28:11And, and pay attention to people like Greg and Taylor Kyles and Evan Lazar and

28:16even me, who I look at the numbers I spent, like, listen to the people that

28:19actually focus on that stuff, because I feel like it just, it just becomes this,

28:24you know, pitchfork and torches because the first couple of weeks were rough on

28:30the offensive line.

28:30It's like, we're just going to keep that narrative going.

28:33Even though we see on the field, there's been some shift.

28:35Speaking of trading, would you buy Greg, if you're the Patriots at the deadline?

28:41Um, yeah, I mean, you know, if you find the, the, you know, somebody that you, a

28:47younger player, um, it would be nice to have, you know, some contract terms left,

28:53but that's not, um, all that vital because the Patriots still have a ton of cap space

28:59that they, they could use both this year and, you know, next year when they roll

29:03over the balance, um, you know, it would have to be somebody that the, the team

29:10really liked coming out of college with their evaluations and maybe they deemed

29:14that they weren't in a good situation where they currently are.

29:17Um, but yeah, I mean, I would be, I would be looking at tackles.

29:21I would, but you know, Cam Robinson is 30.

29:25Um, I think that, I think that the Vikings were a little bit more aggressive, you

29:30know, because they just lost Darisaw.

29:32So they had to get somebody, um, you know, defensive tackle and, um.

29:41You know?

29:41Yeah.

29:41Wide receiver as well.

29:42I mean, yeah, I'd be looking, but you know, those, those type of deals don't

29:47really happen a whole lot in the NFL.

29:51I think you should be looking at buying, like you said, if it, if it fits

29:54certain criteria, if you could bring somebody in who you could sign longterm,

30:00if T Higgins is available and you love T Higgins, even though I don't think he'll

30:03be available, if you think you can get somebody like that and get him into the

30:07facility before free agency and get them locked up, it makes sense.

30:11Uh, those kinds of moves make sense.

30:13Maybe you can find somebody who, you know, has talent, but it's not really a fit on

30:17a certain team because maybe the coaching staff changed, the scheme changed, and

30:22those guys are kind of falling through the cracks, but they're younger and they

30:24have talent, your number one job is to make this roster better.

30:28So if you can do that, then you do it.

30:30I would not be just throwing out top 100 picks, especially in this upcoming draft.

30:36I'd have to make some sense for me, but if I could bring a player in that could

30:40help, yes, bring a player in that could help because you're trying to develop a

30:43culture and you're trying to help your rookie quarterback.

30:47All right.

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32:27Before we get to defense offense, let's just ask you Greg, 30,000 feet.

32:32People who are not paying attention to the Tennessee Titans, which I would

32:35imagine is the vast majority of people listening to this podcast or watching

32:38us, uh, yeah, they're, they're what they're one in six.

32:43So people might look at the record and go, Oh, this team is God awful.

32:48Are they as bad as their record?

32:51Certainly not talent wise.

32:52Um, you know, so I went back, I watched some of the film and I'm not done

32:57with it, but I watched their, their offense and defense against the Colts,

33:00which was a game in which the Colts won 20 to 17, that was Joe

33:07Flacco versus Will Levis.

33:09And I think Will Levis who didn't play last week, it was, it was Mason

33:12Rudolph, uh, who lost 54 to 14.

33:16Uh, the Buffalo bills beat them 34 to 10.

33:18So they've been outscored, uh, 80, 86 to 24 against two of

33:24the best teams in the league.

33:26I mean, those two teams could be in the super bowl, um, the way they're

33:29going right now and they're playing at a high level, so I don't

33:32really fault them for that.

33:33But, you know, just watching them from, you know, 10,000 feet.

33:37Um, you know, I, I don't know why this team's one in six.

33:42Now I do know almost all of it has to do with Will Levis has been a bakery with

33:47the amount of turnovers that he's surrendered.

33:49I mean, he does, he, he plays like an idiot on the field.

33:54He really does.

33:55Um, you know, he, he, he looks, I mean, even when he has protection and

34:01there's this and that, like, he just looks like nervous, like he's just

34:04going a hundred billion miles an hour.

34:07And you're just like, dude, take a breath.

34:10Like, you know, it's so, you know, that's a lot of it.

34:15We'll see if maybe, you know, sitting with the injury, like maybe

34:17calm them down, um, a little bit.

34:20But I mean, you know, you look at this team, Nick and like, you know, there's

34:23talent all over the place from, I, you know, I know they dealt off Deandre

34:28Hopkins, but you know, they still have Calvin Ridley.

34:31Uh, they still have Tyler Boyd.

34:33The offensive line has two very high draft picks from the last two drafts.

34:38JC Latham at left tackle Peter Skowronski, uh, who went, you know, top, I think it

34:44was top 10 and the draft before the 2023, they signed Cushenberry the center from

34:50Denver, who's a good player.

34:52Uh, Dylan Radden's the right guard was a second round pick in 21.

34:57Very physical guy, right?

34:58Tackle is a big issue for them.

35:01Um, Tony Pollard is a good back.

35:03Ty Jay, Ty Jay Spears is a good back.

35:06Like those guys can hit it hard and quickly, um, on defense.

35:11I mean, they signed Sebastian Joseph day Devandre sweat.

35:15Well, was the big nose tackle from Texas who I love that I would have loved to see

35:20the Patriots get as sort of the next guy after God chow, he was a second round pick.

35:24Um, he's a good run defender.

35:26Jeffrey Simmons is just awesome.

35:28Harold Landry is great.

35:30Kenneth Murray at linebacker is a good player.

35:33Um, their safeties hooker and digs are good.

35:37They have a luxurious need and Roger McQuarrie at secondary.

35:41They have, they're playing a rookie Brownlee who was a fifth round pick who

35:45has issues, but on the whole, like you look at this team and you're just like,

35:51this team should not be one in six.

35:52Now I know they've had a tough schedule, but, um, you know, if they start to get

35:57it together, similar to like the Patriots, um, you know, I think this is going to

36:02be, this is going to be a tough matchup, but you know, I do think it's going to

36:05come down to the quarterbacks and obviously I'd like, I like the Drake May

36:09versus will love us matchup if that's what we get.

36:12All right.

36:12Let's, uh, let's start here.

36:15Patriots defense versus Titans offense.

36:17What are you looking for if you're DeMarcus Covington?

36:21Uh, hang on.

36:23I was just looking for something to go over some of my notes.

36:26Um, so, you know, I am, I want to put the game in will love us as

36:32hands, um, you know, as much as possible.

36:35Um, I don't think, you know, yeah, Ridley's pretty fast as a reason why

36:40the Patriots wanted to sign them, but I'm doing the same thing I did last week.

36:44Like I'm playing a lot more man coverage.

36:47I'm putting guys in a box, which you're going to have to worry

36:49about with this Titans team.

36:51And I do think Brian Kelly, uh, is it Brian Callahan?

36:54Uh, no, it's, um, yeah, coach.

36:58Yeah.

36:58So they have Brian Callahan and his dad.

37:01Bill is the one of the greatest offensive line coaches ever.

37:04Um, and you can see they're starting to get some footing on the offensive

37:07line with these young guys.

37:09Like I, you know, this is a typical, what we've seen Shanahan McVay, he's more

37:15McVay type of West coast, um, scheme.

37:19But so what you're going to see is especially early to try to get,

37:23we'll let us calm down, which is good luck to that.

37:26They're going to run a bunch of bubbles and screens and stuff like that, like

37:30just to get him a bit settled down and they're going to run outside zone.

37:35They're going to run inside zone.

37:37Like they're going to try to get you going, you know, back and forth.

37:40Um, so, you know, I'm worried a lot about that, but I think with the state

37:45of the Patriots sort of run defense, which I don't think it was better last

37:49week, but I still don't think it's good.

37:51I think the only way they have a chance is to, to play more man coverage, to drop

37:55a safety down in the box and, you know, make sure you're on your P's and Q's.

38:00And I think if they can build on what they did last week, uh, you

38:03know, that's really good.

38:04I, I wouldn't, I'm not going to worry about, um, blitzing will

38:09Levis he'll create turnovers on his own.

38:11He'll act, he'll act sped up even when you're not speeding him up.

38:16Uh, so I think that definitely plays into the hands of Demarcus

38:19Covington and the Patriots defense.

38:22You mentioned the offensive line of Tennessee, and I'm just

38:25shocked at the numbers, uh, given the talent that they have and the fact

38:29that they have bill Callahan as their coach, I mean, they are 31st in

38:34the league in, in pressure rate given up.

38:36So the second worst past protection, offensive line and football, uh, and

38:41that's not just the next gen stat.

38:43They're also 30th in ESPNs past block win rate.

38:46Their past protection has been God awful.

38:49And you mentioned it, Greg, about the blitz.

38:51It's interesting.

38:52Given those numbers, you might think, oh, maybe teams are

38:55going after the offensive line.

38:56They're not.

38:57Tennessee has faced the ninth lowest blitz rate in the league.

39:01So teams are not blitzing them, but they're getting home.

39:04Now, some of that could be on Levis, of course, not recognizing

39:07certain things up front.

39:09Um, so there's, there's certainly part of that, but they've had issues.

39:13They've had issues with protecting Levis, some of that on the old line,

39:17some of that on him, but you certainly feel like if you have five or six

39:20guys at the line, like you had last week against the jets playing man

39:22coverage and being a little more aggressive upfront that you could

39:26cause some issues and by the way, Levis is practicing and he's throwing.

39:29So it looks like he has a good shot of playing this week.

39:32All right.

39:32Offense, Greg Patriots offense.

39:34If you're Alex van Pelt, you're watching this Titans defense.

39:38I will say this.

39:40You're watching a defense.

39:41That's pretty damn good.

39:43They are, they're a ninth in the league and DVOA defensively.

39:48Uh, people might look at the 52 points in last week's game against

39:53Detroit and put that on the defense.

39:55Five of those drives for Detroit started inside the Tennessee, you know, at the

40:00Tennessee or inside the Tennessee 26 yard line, so they had a bunch of

40:05short fields because of turnovers.

40:07What do you see on the defense?

40:09Yeah.

40:09Um, their rust rush defense is top 10 in the league.

40:13Um, it's very good.

40:14I mean, it's, you have to take care of Jeffrey Simmons on the inside.

40:18I mean, he is a, he's always been a game wrecker.

40:21Um, he always seems to have pretty good, uh, games against, uh, the Patriots when

40:26they do get a chance to, to match up, um, Harold Landry, uh, on the edge, the BC kid.

40:32Um, really good.

40:33Um, you know, so, uh, you know, we say it every week and probably coming off

40:39the concussion, it's definitely not going to happen this week, but, you know, you

40:42think you would like to, to help out the run game a little bit by incorporating,

40:46you know, Drake may running the ball a little bit, but I don't

40:48think that's going to happen.

40:50Um, they still, the Patriots do still need to run the ball.

40:54And I thought that was a really good job by Alex van Pelt last week.

40:57I mean, even though I think, uh, Stevenson at the end had like 20

41:01carries for like 52 yards or something like that, like a lot

41:06of those were important carries.

41:08Like, you know, they, they're, he's so physical.

41:10They're like, you know, body blows and keeps things honest.

41:14And, you know, they, there was a, I think we talked about it before

41:17there was one run to the right where, uh, you know, it was a toss play to the

41:22right and it should have been minus five and Stevenson ends up picking one yard.

41:26And that was one of the greatest, like one yard runs I've ever seen in my life.

41:29And so, you know, it tires out the defense a little bit.

41:32Um, you know, I do worry about, uh, you know, the, the, the Titans

41:38turning the Patriots over a little bit.

41:40Those safeties, uh, are sort of ball Hawks.

41:43I mean, I'm definitely going over, uh, after Brownlee junior, uh, the rookie

41:48cornerback who usually lines up on the left, but also really Nick, what you

41:52just talked about in terms of last week and, you know, the score not really

41:56telling you what happened in the game.

41:58We do need to mention that the Titans special teams are freaking horrendous.

42:05Like, I mean, we're talking like all time bad Aaron shots, uh, with

42:09his DVO way said that the Titans are the fourth worst special teams unit

42:14since 1979 in terms of their metrics.

42:18So, uh, I think this is the type of game, especially like with Patriots

42:24teams pass, like Belichick teams pass where this was, you know, they always

42:29seem to be like one special teams game a year where they made a huge difference.

42:32And everyone's like, see, that's why we take 15 special teams players.

42:37For games like this, when they could really just beat the opponent straight

42:41up, but this has all the makings that this could be a special teams sort

42:47of game for the Patriots and, uh, and take the pressure off the

42:51other two phases of the game.

42:54We should add that, uh, Sneed is dealing with an injury.

42:58Uh, he's been deemed, he's been deemed week to week.

43:01So, uh, I don't think he's expected to play this weekend, which

43:05obviously would, uh, be a pretty big deal for that Tennessee defense.

43:09Again, he did not practice yesterday called week to week, which usually

43:14means it's going to be an injury that keeps them out for a little while.

43:16Speaking of injuries, before we get to our prediction, uh, I will update

43:20you because as we record this, finally getting information from Patriots

43:24practice, uh, Mark Daniels of mass live just tweeted out that Drake may is

43:28throwing, uh, he did more today than they saw him do yesterday, which of

43:32course they didn't see him do anything yesterday, but he was out there at the

43:36start of practice leading individual drills, according to Mike Giardi.

43:41And, uh, looks like at least since he was out there at the beginning and

43:46leading drills, looks like he is most likely in phase four.

43:51Now, what does that mean?

43:53Uh, if he gets through today's practice, he will then have to, I saw Brian

43:57Hoyer talk about this on the game plan.

43:59He did a great job because obviously he played the position, had concussions,

44:02knows exactly what they have to do.

44:04Drake has to, after today, he's going to go through some like balance testing and

44:10they also he'll, he'll do like a test on the computer and they go back to his

44:14baseline, uh, which Brian Hoyer said probably took place in June when he

44:20came in for, you know, mini camp.

44:22So he'll have to at least meet the neurological baseline that he had back

44:28in June, if not exceed that baseline.

44:30So phase four physical activity, he's going through what he's

44:34got to go through.

44:35And then he will meet with the independent neuroscientist and they

44:40will run him through some of these other tests off the field.

44:43And if he passes that, then he's pretty much cleared.

44:47So, uh, it looks like,

44:50yeah, I was just going to say it.

44:52So it looks like, uh, unless there's some sort of setback, uh, Drake

44:56may, we'll be starting on Sunday.

44:57Looks like he's taking the next step, which is a great news.

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45:17All right.

45:18This week's pick let's get to it.

45:19I'm four and four against the spread.

45:21Greg is a three, four and one against the spread.

45:24Greg is five and three straight up.

45:26I am four and four straight up Tennessee Titans giving three

45:30and a half points on Sunday.

45:32The over under is 38 and a half.

45:35Greg, who you got?

45:37Uh, provided Drake may place.

45:40Um, you know, this is, uh, sort of like, uh, the next step challenge for him.

45:46Um, you know, I do think that I, I, I do think that the, the Titans are going

45:52to present, um, are going to present issues for the Patriots.

45:57Uh, but, um, again, you know, I think this is going to be a really good game.

46:04I think that, um, I just like, I'd like Drake may over Will

46:08Levis and the quarterback matchup.

46:10I mean, I just don't, I trust Drake may a lot more, uh, than Will Levis.

46:15Now, you know, part of me wants to say this could be like an old, like

46:19AFC East turnover, touchdown battle, uh, between these two quarterbacks.

46:25Uh, I could see them airing it out and, you know, making plays for both teams.

46:29It could be a fun sort of crazy game like that, but, um, I like may over

46:35Levis and I think he's going to do a better job, I think he's going to outplay him.

46:38So I'm going to go Patriots, uh, 23, uh, Titans 17.

46:50Titans defense will play games up front.

46:52They love playing games up front, uh, the old spin, the dial kind of stuff.

46:56So it will be a challenging game for either quarterback that plays for the

47:00Patriots, but I look at Tennessee and the little things, right?

47:05Cause neither of these teams are great.

47:07They haven't been able to put it together consistently.

47:10So I look at things like special teams.

47:12I look at things like turnovers and I'm going to go with the Patriots.

47:16I'm going to go with the Patriots.

47:18I think it's going to be lower scoring than Greg does.

47:20I would take the under, I would take the three and a half points.

47:23Um, so I, I like the Patriots winning this game.

47:26I'll say, I don't know, you know, 17, 13, somewhere in that range.

47:32Um, I don't think, uh, I don't know if either offense is going to be explosive

47:36or move the football very well.

47:37So, but I would, I would take the Patriots, uh, of course, turnovers

47:41can change everything, but that's how I feel about it.

47:43He's Greg Omnick, uh, enjoy the weekend of football, everybody.

47:47Uh, happy Halloween.

47:49If you're watching, listening on Thursday, this gets out Thursday and,

47:52uh, we'll be back early next week to recap Titans Patriots.

Can the Patriots make it two straight against Titans? | Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast

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