Inside The Secretive World of The Bilderberg Group
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02:25 All right, Chief, what are we getting into today?
02:27 - We're talking about the Bilderberg Group.
02:31 So the Bilderberg Group, what, what?
02:33 - It's in, like, I'm like Harry.
02:35 The way it sounds, it sounds like
02:36 the Build-a-Bear thing in the mall.
02:38 - Yeah, let me spell it for you.
02:40 It's B-I-L-D-E-R-B-E-R-G Group.
02:45 And this is a group of global elites from like,
02:50 and I'm gonna read off a list of people who have attended,
02:53 but they meet every year, different location every year,
02:57 secret location every year.
03:00 They never say where it is.
03:02 They do invite like members of the media, like elite members,
03:07 but the rule is you're not allowed to talk about it.
03:09 Like you can't talk about what goes on.
03:11 And if you're not invited, like there's this guy,
03:13 Max Blumenthal, another guy named Friedman,
03:15 'cause he was in the Washington DC area last year,
03:18 and they were trying to just walk in, like,
03:21 they figured it out 'cause this guy said he called around
03:24 to like all the five-star hotels in the area,
03:27 and the one that was acting like the shadiest,
03:29 he's like, "It's gotta be there."
03:31 So we just walked up and tried to walk in,
03:34 and he said there was like military level security,
03:37 just snatched him right up, took, like, "You can't go in."
03:40 So it is like a secret meeting of all the richest,
03:43 most powerful, most influential people in government,
03:47 business, finance, science, fucking everything,
03:52 and they all meet, and then that's it.
03:56 Like they don't talk about what goes on there.
03:59 They don't say what it's about.
04:00 There's no cameras, there's no meeting notes,
04:04 there's no nothing, and they denied that it even existed
04:09 for a long, long time, and then it was like
04:14 they finally did announce, like, "Yeah, like, this is a thing.
04:16 "They have a website now, and you can go on,
04:18 "they'll kind of explain it," and they're like,
04:20 "Well, we don't have to say what it is.
04:22 "We're just a group of private citizens
04:24 "getting together, talking about things.
04:25 "It's just like a networking thing."
04:26 And maybe it is, maybe it is,
04:29 but also if it's just a networking thing,
04:30 why don't you say what you were talking about?
04:32 You know, like that's--
04:34 - Show me the-- - Yeah.
04:35 What's the big secret?
04:37 - Show me the syllabus.
04:39 - Show me the syllabus, show me, you know,
04:40 someone's taking notes,
04:41 someone's probably recording something.
04:44 What do you guys, if it's no big deal,
04:47 then you should have no problem going public with it,
04:48 and they never do, and they've been meeting,
04:51 I think they've had 63 of these meetings now,
04:55 and the first one was in 1954,
04:59 and it was an idea cooked up
05:01 by like the Prince of the Netherlands.
05:03 It's one of those things where
05:05 I never really think about it,
05:08 but every country in Europe, except for like France,
05:11 'cause they chopped everyone's heads off,
05:13 and Russia still has like a royal family,
05:15 like Spain has a royal family,
05:17 I don't think Germany does,
05:19 but the Netherlands does, Belgium, Sweden,
05:22 they all have these royal families,
05:24 and all I ever think about is the English,
05:26 like the British royal family
05:27 is like the only real royal family,
05:29 but they all still exist,
05:31 and they're all still fabulously wealthy,
05:33 and while they don't have like direct power
05:36 the way that they did 300 years ago and prior,
05:39 they still wield some power.
05:41 - Do you think those families resent
05:43 the British royal family
05:44 because of the publicity that they get?
05:46 - I think they probably have it better.
05:50 - They don't want that.
05:51 - Yeah, British royal family is like
05:54 living under a microscope,
05:55 like everybody knows about fucking Meghan and Harry
05:58 and Kate and Charles,
06:01 and they had the affair with, you know,
06:02 Diana affair, and then Diana gets murdered allegedly,
06:06 so yeah, I think if you could be a royal in like Sweden,
06:10 not have to worry about shit,
06:12 you show up for a few photo ops,
06:13 but nobody really cares about you,
06:15 but you still have like palaces and money
06:16 and all that stuff,
06:17 I think that's probably a better deal.
06:19 Wouldn't you?
06:19 Wouldn't you rather have like--
06:21 - Yeah, I don't know,
06:22 I think it's the same thing with all those kind of elites.
06:25 It's like if you got money, you want fame,
06:27 if you got fame, you want money,
06:28 it's, I don't know.
06:30 - Yeah, like athletes wanna be musicians.
06:32 - Yeah.
06:33 - Yeah, you know.
06:34 See, like I've just,
06:36 I guess I just care about so little
06:40 that I think I would be pretty content
06:41 to be a king of Sweden.
06:42 - Totally.
06:43 - I don't really need anything just to be king of Sweden.
06:47 - Yeah.
06:48 - Yeah, it's a big deal about that,
06:49 but yeah, so they met for the first time,
06:51 it was a Dutch royal,
06:53 it was a prince of the Netherlands,
06:57 and it was at the Bilderberg Hotel,
06:59 and that's so the name stuck,
07:01 even though I don't believe it's ever been back there,
07:04 or maybe it has and we just don't know,
07:06 but this was, you know,
07:07 this is a group that got together
07:10 at like the peak of the Cold War,
07:14 or the beginning of the Cold War, 1954,
07:17 and at that time, post-World War II,
07:20 you had the Soviet Union,
07:22 was like this growing power,
07:24 but that idea of communism,
07:27 had not, communism and socialism,
07:30 had not really been shut down in a major way,
07:36 because the ideas hadn't really played out,
07:39 like it was, you know,
07:41 like you had in the 19th century,
07:43 like Karl Marx and Nietzsche and all these people,
07:46 these ideas of socialism,
07:48 people were like, yeah,
07:49 like this is, the way things are is fucked,
07:51 and so there was like this conspiracy theory
07:56 that World War I was really,
07:59 they had this, and you can see
08:00 if you watch a show Peaky Blinders,
08:01 like communism post-World War I,
08:03 and like how to quell communism
08:05 was a thing that was like a central theme
08:07 in the season one of Peaky Blinders,
08:09 'cause that idea was everywhere,
08:11 because they didn't know that it led
08:12 to 30 million people being killed
08:14 and starved across Ukraine and the Soviet Union
08:18 and deaths everywhere,
08:19 'cause like the ideas and the notoriety
08:22 and things just hadn't really played out yet,
08:24 because it was like,
08:26 well, the current system is fucked,
08:27 this is a new idea, let's try that,
08:30 but every time it's been tried, it's been a disaster.
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10:12 - So you had in '54, there was still,
10:15 you had, like the Greeks were kinda leaning towards,
10:20 there was a big communist movement there,
10:22 there was communist movements in France,
10:24 there was communist, you know,
10:25 then you had the empire, which basically was an empire
10:29 of the Soviet Union, pushing it,
10:32 and then you had this competing idea,
10:34 which is capitalism and democracy, of the West.
10:38 But if you really think about it,
10:42 capitalism and democracy aren't necessarily ideas
10:45 that are like aligned, they kind of butt heads,
10:49 because there's this French guy named Alexis de Tocqueville,
10:54 and he would always say that eventually,
10:56 the majority, which would be the people
10:59 that don't have a lot of money,
11:01 will vote in their own best interest,
11:04 which would be more of like a socialist-style government.
11:07 So like democracy would effectively defeat capitalism.
11:12 So their thinking is, the theory is,
11:14 that the Bilderberg Group was,
11:17 they came together to kind of be this bulwark
11:22 to protect capitalism, where they were the rich and powerful
11:27 against democracy in a way.
11:30 Like that was kind of the thinking.
11:31 So, and then the way that they went about it
11:34 is why there's all these conspiracy theories,
11:35 like what are you guys up to?
11:36 Nothing. - Yeah.
11:37 - But why are you all getting together?
11:39 Don't worry about it.
11:40 It's just guys just chatting.
11:42 We're just chatting about stuff,
11:43 and don't worry about it, nothing to see here,
11:46 but it's still so private and so secret
11:49 that it naturally lends itself.
11:51 And when I say like the most powerful people in the world,
11:53 I'm gonna go through some name,
11:55 I'm gonna list off some names for you.
11:57 - Oh, skull and bones factor. - You ready?
11:59 Yeah.
12:00 King Charles, okay, he's been.
12:03 His dad, Prince Philip, also went.
12:06 Justin Trudeau's dad, who's the Prime Minister of Canada,
12:08 he went.
12:09 Emmanuel Macron, who's the current Prime Minister of France.
12:13 Angela Merkel, who was the,
12:15 is she still the Prime Minister of Germany?
12:17 - You're asking the wrong guy about that one.
12:19 - Yeah, true, but she was the Prime Minister of Germany
12:21 for a long time.
12:22 She might still be, but she's been there, I feel like,
12:24 for at least a decade.
12:26 Klaus Schwab, who is in like,
12:28 he's like the head of the other scary,
12:31 secret global elite society.
12:34 Tony Blair, who was the Prime Minister of England
12:38 and was like the Prime Minister,
12:40 like hand in hand with Bush going into Iraq.
12:42 David Cameron, he was a former Prime Minister of England.
12:46 Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger,
12:51 Jared Kushner, who was Trump's son-in-law.
12:56 David Petraeus, you know that name?
12:59 He was like four-star general during the war on terror.
13:02 Condoleezza Rice, you know that name?
13:06 Larry Summers, who was the President of Harvard
13:09 and like, top economic advisor.
13:13 Lindsey Graham, who's been a Senator forever,
13:14 who is a fucking crazy person.
13:17 He's one who was always like,
13:19 what should we do about this?
13:20 I don't know, blow it up?
13:21 Like, that's kind of like his stance on everything.
13:23 Like, he's like the number one guy being like,
13:25 we should just, maybe number two guy.
13:27 There's a few that are like,
13:28 we should go to a war with Iran right now.
13:30 It's like, why don't you just chill the fuck out
13:31 a little bit, Lindsey Graham?
13:33 John Kerry, you know, ran for President,
13:36 Secretary of State, Senator for Massachusetts.
13:39 David Rockefeller, of the Rockefellers,
13:42 President of Chase Manhattan Bank.
13:44 Ben Bernanke, Jeff Bezos, Sam Altman,
13:48 who was like a recent invitee.
13:49 He's the CEO of OpenAI.
13:52 Bill Gates, Ken Griffin, the CEO of Pfizer
13:56 was at this last one.
13:57 It's like, literally a fucking who's who.
14:01 And that's when it's like,
14:02 it's one of those things where it's like,
14:07 people like to throw like,
14:09 oh, like you're a conspiracy theorist
14:10 as a way to dismiss you.
14:12 But like, if you have all these people getting together
14:15 every year, like, of course,
14:18 the ideas that are discussed in there,
14:21 even though there's no like vote or policy or anything,
14:24 of course those people are getting together
14:27 'cause they see the value in it,
14:29 and they're gonna use like these ideas
14:31 and these meetings to like shape
14:33 the direction of the world and public policy.
14:36 So it's like the last time they got together,
14:37 it was like, well, what do we do about, you know,
14:41 Russia, Ukraine, NATO expansion,
14:44 how to like realign, you know, the South Pacific countries
14:47 and like, do we do an alliance with them
14:48 as a bulwark against China?
14:50 And, but like, no one really knows.
14:52 So then it's like, well, you asked the,
14:55 you know, I think it was like the prime minister of Finland.
14:58 And she was like, yeah, like we're trying to get into NATO.
15:04 And they're like, wait, what?
15:05 And then they asked the Swedish ambassador the same thing.
15:08 And they're like, we can't talk about it,
15:09 we're not talking about it, we can't talk.
15:10 And then what do you know?
15:11 Like, they both go up for admission into NATO,
15:15 which is like Russia was like,
15:17 hey, you cannot fucking do that.
15:19 So it is like a very creepy, scary thing.
15:24 And it's like, they've had these different,
15:26 like they're accused of all sorts of things.
15:31 Like there's that one guy,
15:32 I can't think of his name right now,
15:34 like David, David something.
15:35 But he's like, these are the lizard people.
15:37 It's like kind of like Alex Jones talk,
15:38 where it's like, they get like super creepy
15:40 conspiracy theory like that.
15:42 And there's other people being like,
15:43 hey, like in 1973, you guys talked about
15:48 how to manage a global energy crisis.
15:53 Like that was something that they figured out.
15:55 I don't know how they figured it out,
15:56 that that was a thing.
15:57 And they talked about it afterwards.
15:59 And what do you know, in 1974,
16:00 there was a global energy crisis.
16:02 And then it was like, oh, what do we do
16:03 if there's a global pandemic?
16:04 Oh, what do you know?
16:05 And then there's a global pandemic.
16:07 And so it's always like, how do we,
16:12 like there's just things that keep happening.
16:14 Where there's the NATO thing, energy thing, COVID thing.
16:18 And it's just like, well, what the fuck?
16:22 How do you guys keep getting everything right?
16:24 Like are these things that are coming out of there?
16:27 And there's thinking that it's like,
16:29 this is a way for, to keep other ideas
16:33 about how to run countries in the world down.
16:38 Because they make it seem like,
16:40 well, if you're against anything, if you're against us,
16:43 then you're, if you think you're espousing these ideas
16:46 to us, you're a conspiracy theorist.
16:49 And if you talk about a different system of government
16:53 or economics, well, then you're a communist.
16:56 And then everyone knows now communism is evil.
16:59 So it's like, it's just dismissed.
17:00 So it's a way to kind of, the thinking is,
17:04 and that who fucking knows,
17:05 but the thinking is that it's like all these people
17:07 get together as a means to protect their wealth
17:10 and protect the status quo where they're thriving.
17:16 So like, and then, if you're an investment banker,
17:20 'cause they always, Goldman Sachs is always there.
17:22 There is like this chart that I saw that it was like,
17:25 how every, basically like every big corporation
17:29 in the world through like one degree of separation
17:32 has attended this event.
17:34 So like the big, like McDonald's.
17:36 - Now, is it like a thing too, where maybe they just go
17:39 because they don't wanna miss out on something that they?
17:41 - I think that it would be very difficult
17:44 if you get, who knows how they invite you.
17:49 That's probably something fucking sweet,
17:50 golden envelope or something, I don't know.
17:53 But if you get that invitation being like,
17:55 hey, like we'd like you to, you know, again,
17:58 like if you're the Bilderberg guy,
17:59 like Peter Thiel's been there, you know that name?
18:02 - Yeah. - Okay.
18:04 Peter Thiel's been, like there's like a who's who, right?
18:06 From both sides of the aisle.
18:08 And if you're sitting there and you get this invitation
18:13 to go to the Bilderberg group, it would be so hard
18:18 to say no, just out of morbid curiosity.
18:20 I mean like, oh, Jeff Bezos is gonna be there?
18:23 You know, like all these, what are you gonna?
18:25 Like I would wanna go, I would wanna know.
18:28 And then, but I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut.
18:30 I'd probably get assassinated because I'd come right back
18:32 here and be like, okay, this is what these guys are up to.
18:34 But then it's like also like, how do you get all these
18:36 people to just keep their mouth shut forever?
18:38 'Cause there are like, like Peggy Noonan,
18:41 who was like a big time journalist for Wall Street Journal,
18:45 New York Times, she went a couple of times
18:49 as like an invited guest, has never said anything about it.
18:54 So it's like, how do you ensure that the people
18:59 that you're inviting won't leak out what was discussed?
19:03 'Cause nothing's ever really been leaked
19:05 until like afterwards, like the oil thing.
19:08 So like, how do you coerce people into like,
19:11 what kind of blood oath do you make these people take?
19:14 Where, like who can touch Bezos?
19:18 How can, Bezos is so fucking wealthy,
19:22 he kind of has fuck you money.
19:23 He could come out, come back out of that
19:26 and be like, this is what happened.
19:28 How do those people keep a guy like Jeff Bezos in line?
19:33 If he has fuck you money like that.
19:35 - It makes me wonder too, like my biggest thing,
19:39 if I were to like be a fly on the wall,
19:42 who's the real head honcho?
19:43 - Who's calling the shots?
19:45 I've always wondered that, 'cause I really like,
19:47 I don't, especially now with our current president,
19:50 like telling me that guy's come up with policies
19:53 and like shit, like no.
19:55 - But I'm not even talking about that.
19:57 I'm talking about like, listen, you get Theo Epstein,
20:00 you get Scotty Bowman, you get Bill Belichick
20:04 and you get--
20:05 - Who's the real alpha dog?
20:06 - Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean?
20:07 You get-- - Greg Popovich.
20:08 - Yes, Greg, who's the real one who like,
20:11 all right, 'cause like you said,
20:12 it's like the Ninja Turtle theory.
20:14 - Yeah. - We've talked about that
20:15 before, where it's like who would file in?
20:17 - Yeah, so in case, if you, just a refresher
20:19 on that Ninja Turtle theory, 'cause I love that theory,
20:22 that it's basically, if you get any group of four guys
20:27 that eventually they will ascend into a particular role,
20:32 which mirrors what the Ninja Turtles are.
20:35 So you'll get like a genuine leader,
20:38 that'll be your Leonardo.
20:39 That's like your guy who just kind of directs everything,
20:43 good leader or theoretically, hopefully a good leader.
20:46 Then you get a Raphael, who's like the muscle,
20:51 kind of hothead, lieutenant, almost like a right-hand man.
20:55 Then you have like your analyst guy, your nerd,
20:58 your Donatello, who like speaks up,
21:01 but he's not like a driving force of policy in the group.
21:05 And then you have your jokester, which is the Michelangelo.
21:08 And if you do, they've done experiments where it's like,
21:11 if you take four Michelangelos and put 'em in a group,
21:15 somebody will emerge and take over that Leonardo role.
21:18 And if you get four Leonardos in a group,
21:21 they will kind of ascend.
21:22 So the theory, in theory, everybody at this is a Leonardo,
21:27 but if you keep 'em together long enough,
21:30 you're gonna have guys who are normally Leonardos
21:32 become Michelangelos in these other roles
21:36 as this group is formed.
21:38 So that is--
21:39 - That would be fascinating to see how they shook out.
21:42 - And that's like another thing where it's like--
21:44 - It's such a fascinating theory.
21:45 - Oh, I believe it, I believe it.
21:48 But it's like, you know, like Henry Kissinger,
21:52 you're gonna tell me that Henry Kissinger,
21:54 who's been going since 1954,
21:57 or I think his first one was '57,
21:59 and then he was like,
22:01 he wasn't like anything super powerful at that point.
22:05 He later became a high-ranking government official
22:08 in the United States, Secretary of State,
22:10 he's like an advisor, all this kind of stuff,
22:12 in the '70s under Nixon.
22:13 And he was like a valued voice until the day he died.
22:17 That guy goes basically every year,
22:21 but he doesn't influence policy.
22:24 What is discussed in that meeting doesn't lend its,
22:28 like go into Kissinger, and then Kissinger goes
22:30 into the most powerful rooms in the world,
22:34 and doesn't take any of those ideas,
22:36 doesn't try to implement any of those ideas
22:37 that come out of there.
22:38 I just, I don't believe that.
22:41 Then there's another thing that I thought was interesting,
22:43 is that when Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton went,
22:46 but Bill Clinton went in 1991, before he was president.
22:51 So at that point, nobody really knew,
22:56 like he was the governor,
22:57 he had been the governor of Arkansas.
22:59 But he came, he was running for president,
23:05 he was a long shot at that point.
23:07 He kind of like was a late riser in '92,
23:10 through the primary process, got the nomination,
23:15 and then it was very hairy as he was running against H.W. Bush
23:19 and got kind of lucky because Ross Perot got,
23:21 but it's like did they, did he go to that Bilderberg meeting
23:24 and they're like, you know what, you're gonna be the guy.
23:28 You know, like you're tapped.
23:30 I could see that happening.
23:31 I could see, you know, like they're the ones,
23:34 if they're, like that's where it's like,
23:36 who is really pulling the strings,
23:38 and it's like the whole secret society thing.
23:42 - There's so much that surrounds him.
23:43 Like I get why you're obsessed with him.
23:46 - What do you mean?
23:47 - Just like that, the mob, like there's so many like--
23:52 - The man had a lot of enemies.
23:53 So he had the mafias against him, the CIA was against him,
23:58 the military industrial kind of complex was against him.
24:02 He was trying to get rid of the Federal Reserve,
24:07 so like all the central banks,
24:08 which is arguably like the most powerful thing,
24:11 that you know, the Kennedy half dollar,
24:14 you know that, right?
24:16 They minted it after he died,
24:18 the first year as pure silver.
24:20 Well, he wanted to come up with a government issued,
24:23 not a Federal Reserve issued, government issued currency
24:27 that would be like back to like precious metals.
24:30 Like he was working to get us kind of more
24:32 onto like actual silver as currency
24:36 as opposed to, you know, nickel plated silver.
24:40 So they say like the '64 mint of the Kennedy dollar
24:45 is pure silver, and then after that, they still minted it,
24:49 but they made it like the shit,
24:51 like it was like almost like a fuck you to JFK
24:54 after he was dead, supposedly.
24:55 - Damn.
24:56 - Secret societies are repugnant.
24:58 This is a pretty secretive group.
25:00 And then he says that there is like basically this cabal,
25:03 this group that's in economic, political, military,
25:09 scientific, academic.
25:13 Well, that's what this is.
25:15 Like that's what this is.
25:18 So is he talking specifically about the Bilderberg group?
25:22 I don't know.
25:23 Is he talking more about, you know,
25:25 like we've talked about the guy,
25:26 the Skull and Bones people before from Yale.
25:29 And like, you know, Dulles and a lot of his CIA guys,
25:34 like the CIA was, they think was like that idea
25:37 and that organization was born out of the Skull and Bones.
25:40 Was he talking about that?
25:43 I don't know, but either way, he's like, look at this.
25:46 There is this element that exists
25:49 where they're just always striving for more and more
25:53 and more power and control,
25:57 and they'll do it by any means necessary,
25:59 but they don't do it like in your face.
26:01 It's not like we're invading.
26:03 It's like, well, you're just slipping ideas in there
26:06 and you're slipping, you're getting, you know,
26:08 his nephew, right, his nephew, would be RFK Jr.
26:13 He always talks about like how all the agencies
26:15 are just captured.
26:17 So captured by the military industrial complex
26:20 or captured by big pharma,
26:21 they're captured by all these things.
26:23 And everything is kind of done,
26:25 like all these moves are kind of done in secret.
26:27 And you wonder how much of those things are discussed
26:31 at the Bilderberg group and other organizations like that.
26:36 And it's like they're like,
26:37 he had one idea of view for the world,
26:41 and he went up against these secret society types,
26:45 openly called out them in that speech,
26:47 had openly said like, I'm gonna take the CIA
26:51 and shatter into a thousand pieces
26:53 and scatter it to the wind.
26:55 You know, he opened, he was doing this thing
26:57 with the monetary policy.
26:59 He was doing all these things.
27:01 And he went up against them and fucking lost.
27:04 And then they buried how he lost still,
27:08 80 fucking years, 60 years later.
27:11 So it is like, it's like a, I don't know.
27:15 I think there's some kind of something there
27:18 where like you wanna know like who are the alphas
27:21 and who's really doing stuff.
27:22 I think it's groups like this,
27:24 where it's like they get all these world,
27:27 you know, it's like the World Economic Forum,
27:29 which is like Klaus Schwab.
27:31 It's all like that kind of stuff.
27:33 And it's like--
27:33 - Yeah, but the order's out there
27:34 and then everyone else just kind of follows along.
27:37 - I think that they decide what's best for them
27:41 to keep themselves in power
27:42 and how to strategically do things,
27:45 as opposed to like the best idea wins,
27:48 which is what kind of,
27:50 you know, it's like that saying where it's like,
27:55 if you have a policy by compulsion,
27:57 meaning like, hey, you better do this or else,
28:01 it's probably not that good of a policy.
28:03 Like if you have like a really great idea,
28:07 policy that you're putting forward,
28:09 if it's good enough and articulated
28:11 and argued for well enough,
28:13 then you don't need other means to get it passed
28:18 or get it pushed through or get people involved.
28:20 You shouldn't need to like lie to people, coerce people,
28:23 and do all these different kind of underhanded modes
28:28 to get your policies enacted.
28:29 Like it should just be like,
28:30 hey, that's a really fucking good idea.
28:32 Everybody's gonna get behind it.
28:33 Like that's a marker of a bad policy
28:37 or a policy that's not great for the people
28:40 is when it's policy by compulsion.
28:42 So, and it feels like we got a lot of policy by compulsion.
28:47 So, I don't know, it's very, to me,
28:51 this is like one of those eternal questions of the world
28:55 is like who decides?
28:59 And it kind of, you know, we've talked about like,
29:02 it feels like it's like all roads always kind of lead back
29:05 to like the Rockefellers and like that group
29:08 where they just had so much money.
29:09 We're like, well, let's just fucking buy everything.
29:12 - Too powerful.
29:14 They're just so powerful.
29:17 - Yeah, and it's like, you know,
29:19 but it's also like, well, how bad is the status quo
29:25 that we've been living with in our lifetime?
29:27 We always talk like that last episode,
29:28 we had the crisis, we're in this crisis phase, right?
29:31 But like the status quo, guys like you and me,
29:36 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:37 - Pretty fucking good.
29:38 We're largely been at peacetime, you know?
29:41 Technology is awesome and, you know,
29:46 like beyond anybody's wildest imaginations.
29:48 Like things are, people have, there's, you know,
29:51 less famine and poverty than ever.
29:53 In general, I think things are pretty good,
29:55 but it's like, I don't know how free it is.
29:59 And there's that other, like, I don't know,
30:02 I'm quoting this guy today, that guy Tocqueville,
30:05 where he's like, you know, everybody,
30:08 like the revolution part is easy.
30:10 It's like, what do you do after the revolution?
30:12 That's hard.
30:13 And well, that's really fucking hard.
30:16 'Cause if you take down this, there's, you know,
30:19 how we've been living in America and in the West
30:21 since World War II, if you take this down,
30:24 what replaces it?
30:26 Something better?
30:29 Odds are, if you look throughout human history,
30:31 probably not.
30:32 It would probably be, so maybe this protecting
30:34 the status quo isn't the worst thing.
30:36 But you shouldn't have to do it by compulsion.
30:38 - Yeah. - It's interesting.
30:40 - It is, it is very interesting.
30:41 Man, I'd love to go to one of these meetings.
30:43 - Dude. - Just to see.
30:45 - Can you imagine getting called on?
30:47 - No. - Like, all right, Eddie,
30:49 what do you think of this?
30:50 I'm like, ah. - What he said.
30:51 - Yeah, sounds good to me.
30:53 - Yeah. - Yeah.
30:54 - Crazy, dude. - Yeah.
30:56 - All right then, Chief, we can wrap this up.
30:59 We'll be back tomorrow for the free swim.
31:01 See everybody there.
31:02 (whooshing)
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