Episode 140: AJ Dybantsa Is Apparently Worth A LOT OF MONEY + Can UConn Three-Peat?

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00:00:00On today's episode of the mark Titus show college basketball has to get your basketball in general has to hear I can't do it

00:00:04Anymore, I think the AP poll is supposed to come out next week that this is it's usually a mid-october deal

00:00:11So yeah, I mean, I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing it's gonna be Monday

00:00:15We're gonna get the preseason AP poll. I need it. I need it badly. I'm not gonna lie to you Tate. I need I can't do

00:00:21right now

00:00:22NBA preseason it's just like Bronny James went 0 for 3 again

00:00:27And LeBron's tweeting about like not wanting to play preseason games in Milwaukee, and I'm just like goddamn

00:00:33Can we get the games going already?

00:00:36College basketball, it's sort of the same thing the news the news right now in college basketball

00:00:40One Danny Hurley is fighting with Evan Miyakawa cuz Evan Miyakawa had UConn like ninth or something and his preseason

00:00:47Algorithm Evan Miyakawa is a friend of this program. He comes on the show

00:00:51Fairly regularly. I like Evan

00:00:53I like his work, especially when he puts the Buckeyes higher in his algorithm than all the other algorithms out there

00:00:59But at the same time if I had won back-to-back

00:01:01National championships, and I felt pretty good about my team coming into the season and I saw that we were preseason number nine

00:01:06I get pretty upset, but at the same time Evan is like listen man. They're computers. That's not me saying it, but at the same time

00:01:13Who's who's who's controlling the computer Evan? I don't know point is I just need some basketball, man

00:01:19We got to get these secret scrimmages going we got to get these charity exhibitions going

00:01:23we are very very very close, and I just need it because

00:01:27That's the news. There's also like

00:01:29Like Goodman just out of nowhere tweets that that AJ DeBance is asking for seven to nine million dollars

00:01:35And I shouldn't care AJ DeBance is not even in college basketball this year. He's he's what the fuck dude like

00:01:43Cooper flag is next man up like I'm excited about Cooper flag

00:01:46And then all of a sudden this this DeBance is asking for seven to nine million dollars tweet hits

00:01:51And now I find myself last night

00:01:53Like I'm I'm in like a BYU rabbit hole because DeBance

00:01:57Like it feels like BYU is the leader in the clubhouse

00:01:59And he's asking for like almost ten million dollars for one year of basket look

00:02:03he's gonna be on campus for for five months and

00:02:06He might get it from BYU so I'm in this rabbit hole reading about how BYU is getting these

00:02:11They got like a Russian dude. That's gonna be fucking awesome this year cannon catchings for my hometown

00:02:16Was committed to Purdue D commits

00:02:18we talked about that last week and Purdue is like we don't want dudes that want to have sex with girls and

00:02:24Her painter said that the pigs like we don't want dudes that are out with their girlfriends and a cannon catches like fuck it

00:02:30I'll go to BYU and you're scratching your head. You're like what is about BYU now all of a sudden?

00:02:34I'm in this BYU rabbit hole. We got playoff baseball going on

00:02:37We got Thursday night football

00:02:38I'm sitting on my couch reading about how BYU is getting all these dudes and like what the hell's going on at BYU and I

00:02:43Blame Jeff Goodman for just dropping a an AJ Dabantz because it seems like the Bantz it might be might be training towards BYU

00:02:49But the bigger problem Tate is that AJ Dabantz is not even college basketball

00:02:52I should be fired up about this season this crop of freshmen this all the talent we have coming back

00:02:58And this is what I this is what I'm doing with my time and all that is to say we got to get these games

00:03:02Going so, uh, there's there's a there's a few things we're gonna pick out today

00:03:05I want to talk a little bit about these conferences because I think I think basically every power conference is wide open

00:03:10Except for probably the Big East Dan Hurley if you're watching Yukon will go undefeated and beat everybody by 30

00:03:16But every other conference feels a little wide open. So that's pretty interesting to me. But uh,

00:03:21Yeah, we got to get these games going. There's no other way

00:03:23There's no other way to say like I'm just ready for or give me the a people just drop it right now

00:03:28So I can pick it apart. Um

00:03:30Let's just let's just get into it. All right. I want to talk about Danny Hurley and Evan Miyakawa, but less about their I

00:03:37Don't know if you want to call it a feud because Evans like the nicest guy in the world

00:03:40He's just like you're my bad and and just kind of the fused it pretty quickly

00:03:44Um, I care less about the feud and I care more about the idea that Yukon has to

00:03:52They have they have to fall off at some point

00:03:56Or do they so I want to talk about that. I do want to talk about AJ DeBanca the the Goodman tweet which like

00:04:02Came out of nowhere. You showed it to me. What what yeah, he was he was talking with Fanta and they were here's my thing

00:04:09they're talking NIL money and

00:04:11Everyone has the same answer

00:04:13Well, I don't know it specifically like I don't know it exact but what I'm hearing what I'm hearing

00:04:19Yeah, but we hear that all the time and usually when we hear it, it's like I'm hearing right a million

00:04:24I swear these I'm hearing these numbers are there. They're not they're not accurate. I'm they're not hearing they came to million

00:04:29Yeah, when he said

00:04:32seven to nine

00:04:34Million for AJ DeBanca. Yeah, how long's AJ DeBanca gonna be at your campus?

00:04:40There's no way it's seven to nine million, but also I don't I don't fucking know. I don't know

00:04:44I don't know the NIL the numbers are there's no way they're right

00:04:47Can a player be worth seven to nine million? Is there any player in the history? Um,

00:04:52the answer is

00:04:54No, unless you're you're thinking like I'm trying to think. Yeah any player in history like looking back

00:05:00Jordan was worth if Zion Williamson had gone to

00:05:04Like yeah looking back like Michael Jordan. Yes, I don't I might

00:05:08Steph Curry to Davidson was probably worth a fuck ton of money

00:05:11Yeah

00:05:12because it's like we don't have any other guy to hang her hat on and and now we have Steph Curry so like if Zion would

00:05:18have gone to

00:05:19Like Zion at Duke. I don't know if that's worth seven or nine

00:05:21but Zion's were Zion was like I'm just trying to think of like recent dudes that could have

00:05:27You know got a price tag like that cuz I and was not just really fucking good

00:05:31He was as the kids say box office like it was he was he was getting eyeballs. He was getting

00:05:37Money flowing, but how long was there like when you went to Ohio State?

00:05:41You didn't you say Conley and Odin they didn't stay a fool like a full year. Yeah, like

00:05:46but the problem yeah, the problem is like the

00:05:50The NCAA tournament is such a crapshoot that there's no guarantee that like if you get the best player

00:05:55there's you could you could get bounced in the first round and then

00:05:59Although all the idea of like we're like if you know if we get this guy we're gonna go to the final four

00:06:04We're gonna go we're gonna compete for national championship for sure. Mm-hmm, and we're gonna get all that revenue share throughout the NCAA tournament

00:06:10Then yeah that that might be worth it in the end, but there's no guarantee. It's impossible

00:06:15That's that's why we love the NCAA tournament there

00:06:17You can't you can't do that like you can't just Zion didn't go to the final four

00:06:20So it's like yeah, AJ DeBanca commits to BYU tomorrow for 7 million that doesn't guarantee like are they favorites in the big 12?

00:06:27Are they they're not a top seed. They're not Oh, Kansas will be favorites in the big 12 no matter who they have

00:06:33So how it's how it works

00:06:35So how how I just don't know how you can justify I love it

00:06:39Yeah, I love that BYU's over there just being like I need to come up with 10 million dollars to get a kid

00:06:43Who's currently in high school? Yeah, I don't I don't know who's gonna I don't put put a pin in that

00:06:48We'll talk about that. We'll talk about

00:06:50We'll talk about UConn as well because that's interesting to me. I think right now though

00:06:55I want to make sure I talk about what's going on in Michigan State and

00:06:59Number one, it's just a shout-out Cohen Carr for another Michigan State did their fucking green white

00:07:05I don't know midnight midnight Madness's are dead, but they still pump out like clips of

00:07:11You know the scrimmages or the the fan things and Cohen Carr dunks from the free-throw line between the legs

00:07:17Um

00:07:18He's he's he's the best dunker in college basketball

00:07:21He's so fucking electric and I I don't want to say I forgot he was on Michigan State

00:07:26But it was a nice reminder that like oh, yeah

00:07:28Cuz Michigan State's gonna fall off a little bit and there are a little bit of questions about like in a wide-open Big Ten

00:07:35Like where does Michigan State fit in?

00:07:37They're they're freshmen because they were supposed to be pretty good last year

00:07:40If you remember last year going into the season

00:07:42It was there they were a trendy pick to win the conference Purdue

00:07:46Was a one seed the year before obviously loses the 16th seed

00:07:49Purdue brings everybody back and for some reason going into the season last year people were like

00:07:53I don't know man, cuz Purdue lost a fairly Dickinson

00:07:56I think Michigan State is gonna win the conference and I I

00:07:58Was one of the brave souls who stood up and said no Purdue is going to fucking win this conference

00:08:04What are we doing? Zack Edie is still there. And what did I get for it?

00:08:06What was the what was the things I got for it Tate?

00:08:09Proving is fucking hate me. They hate me. You put them on your back one year ago almost to the day

00:08:14I sat here and I said Purdue will make the final four but not win the national championship

00:08:18Purdue makes the final four does not win the national championship

00:08:21How many letters have I gotten saying holy shit you call and you donated to him and I donated to him

00:08:26That's the things I guess be missed

00:08:28But Michigan State was was highly thought of going into the year last year because they were a brain

00:08:34The formula was bring everyone back quote-unquote

00:08:37Plus great freshman class like that was you put those two together. That's a formula that works plus Tom Izzo

00:08:43They were the trendy pick to win the Big Ten to go to a final four

00:08:47To be the team out of the Big Ten that could win the national championship

00:08:50And I think the freshman class Xavier Booker and Cohen Carr

00:08:53Were the were the two big guys

00:08:55The two big names I should say not the big guys

00:08:58Um, they were they were highly thought of and I don't want to say they were bad

00:09:02But they were not quite as good as they were we were expecting

00:09:06Anyway, all that is to say I don't really know what to expect for Michigan State this year

00:09:10But watching Cohen Carr dunk from the free-throw line between the legs. I was like over five students

00:09:16Yeah, they're Michigan State's projected fifth in the Big Ten

00:09:20This is media poll season by the way preseason media poll Michigan State fifth got one first place vote

00:09:26After seeing Cohen Carr go free-throw line over the students. That's as good as between the legs

00:09:31That's as good a case as anybody has. Yeah, you've got um, he he was uh, I will say like he was

00:09:37He wasn't bad last year. I thought he was fine for Michigan State, but he

00:09:40It was so funny when you you would watch Michigan State

00:09:43It's gonna happening in this year

00:09:44You could see the the lob plays coming a mile away and you just couldn't do anything to stop it. Like you just

00:09:50You know basketball you see like a it's like a zone and the team is just like very methodically like dribbling

00:09:57Nowhere, just till I get the defense

00:09:59And they throw it back and then like there's a there's a there's like a big man lumbering over to set a back screen on like

00:10:05The you know the opposite wing and you just see it coming a mile away

00:10:09Then Cohen Carr just sticks his nuts in the rim and flushes it. Um, I'm excited for him if nothing else

00:10:16Out of East Lansing, but uh, there was that but then there was also

00:10:20Devin Booker

00:10:21Let's talk. What what?

00:10:24Explain this to me what exactly so so Devin Booker who we all know went right from high school to the pros

00:10:31It's a damn shame that he never had an opportunity to play college basketball because if he did if he did

00:10:38he so so what happened was

00:10:40Phoenix had a the Suns had a preseason game against the Pistons and they played it at the Breslin Center

00:10:46Yeah, the Suns owner Matt Ishbia was a walk on a Michigan State. So they play it. Yeah in East Lansing

00:10:51Yeah, and before the game

00:10:54You know

00:10:55Booker comes out warming up in Michigan State crazy

00:10:59Talks to reporters praises Izzo says how he's always

00:11:04Just always wanted to be since he was a kid wanted to be a Michigan. So he's everyone he'd do anything to

00:11:10gave the team

00:11:12Personalized Michigan State Nike shoes went to the Tigers game rocking all Michigan State gear and then it hit me

00:11:20Devin Booker did play college basketball and and my biggest thing about it. It's not like it's not like okay

00:11:27He's the hometown kid from I don't know Toledo, but you're never gonna go to Toledo if you're a top, right?

00:11:33Okay, so you had to go off to bigger and better, right?

00:11:36He had he's from Grand Rapids Tom Izzo's their coach Michigan State is a powerhouse

00:11:42They recruited him. They were offered him. They recruited him. They wanted him. Oh, and that's all he ever wanted

00:11:49I would be so mad if I was a Michigan State fan and he thinks I mean the way he's acting is like he's

00:11:54the hometown kid like I'm back at my

00:11:57That's brutal

00:11:58Well, what do you that's brutal dude? It even started, Kentucky. That's the other thing

00:12:04Yeah, you went to Kentucky and came off the bench, dude

00:12:07That way behind the Harrison twins that tells me Kentucky was offering the bag before you could off. Oh, yeah, no shit

00:12:14Yeah, no shit. Um, I don't know why guys do this. I

00:12:18Mean I know why they do it

00:12:20But I don't know why they think they can get away with it

00:12:21I should say that like they do it because they're trying to endear themselves to like other college fan bases

00:12:26This is I will say Kentucky do it to Kentucky though. This is this is my argument though for why college basketball is still

00:12:32as as

00:12:34other pro leagues become, you know popular and like the G League the G League ignite RIP was

00:12:40Was was blossoming and people like why would anybody go to college go play college? Why not? Just go to the G League?

00:12:45Why not go to Australia? Why not do?

00:12:47There is something to be said about when when you play college basketball and then you go on to your NBA career

00:12:53You will always have a built-in fan base. You will always have

00:12:56Like these people that will I mean Greg Owens is a great example of a guy who goes to the NBA

00:13:01Does not pan out in the way that people think I love it

00:13:03Greg moves back to Columbus, Ohio and everyone's like we don't give a fuck what you did in the NBA, dude

00:13:07You're you're you're a god to us. Um and having that like built-in fan base is

00:13:13Like Zach Edie would be another example Zach Edie, I think you know, it's like good in preseason

00:13:17I expect him to have a pretty good NBA career

00:13:20He's gonna stick around for a while

00:13:21But if Zach Edie like if you come to find out Zach Edie's just not an NBA player and he bounces out of the league

00:13:26Just go back to Purdue dude and do whatever you do whatever you want. And so I think guys I think there's like a value in

00:13:32That but then I don't so like I understand like Devin Booker's like why not? Okay, so I have the Kentucky fans

00:13:37What if I just like scoop up these Michigan State fans over here, but you can't do that

00:13:42What's Tom Izzo doing? Yeah, like he's in he's in a pickle because you want all the good publicity publicity like

00:13:48Okay, Devin writers giving us shoes. That's good for recruiting. Whatever Tom Izzo you recruited Devin Booker

00:13:54He turned you down and he went to Kentucky. Yeah, and now you're sitting there like

00:13:59They were the same Final Four, dude

00:14:01Oh my god, you realize Devin Booker almost played Michigan State in the national champ

00:14:04If there was a third place game, they would have played each other

00:14:07He would he would have had to go split Jersey

00:14:09For the but at least like LeBron does this with Ohio State LeBron does this with every school

00:14:14He does this with every he would have gone to Duke Carolina, Ohio State Akron

00:14:17He loves to say where I see would have gone, Miami

00:14:20But LeBron didn't go to college so he can play that you do that Kobe did the same thing where there's there's article

00:14:26You could just use Google Kobe Bryant and literally any other college and hit enter

00:14:29It'll be a quote where it's like, yeah, man

00:14:31I honestly I was this close to committing to Utah

00:14:34They can do that because they didn't go to college Devin Booker went to college and he's like man

00:14:39If only I know only had a chance to go to MSU and yet I gotta say Tate

00:14:43I made a promise to Devin Booker and the American people

00:14:47After the Olympics, I can't your book your book. I'm a book guy. I said that would be it's good

00:14:53it's gonna test my resolve because in be the same thing like I

00:14:58Saw him bead in media days wearing the Sixers uniform

00:15:01Mm-hmm, and just all the the flood like the instant came back and I just stopped myself

00:15:05I was like, I'd listen man. We don't win a gold medal without Joel Embiid. We don't we don't win

00:15:09You know what?

00:15:10This is like this is like when remember the Titans they go off to camp and they're like hey when we get back

00:15:15Everyone's gonna try to pull us apart. Yeah, remember what we did it can't you got to remember what the Olympics was?

00:15:20I gotta remember these boys brought a gold medal. We we came together in France. I we all won a gold medal

00:15:26That's how it works. That's how the Olympics work

00:15:28If you're American you want to go about a Devin Booker want us a gold medal

00:15:32so you have to but at the same time I

00:15:35Mean he was I saw he was talking about like drew night

00:15:39So is his favorite player growing up and all that drew night?

00:15:42So has this do you see that clip like drew night?

00:15:44So has this kid there and and his kids wearing a Devin Booker Jersey and books like dappin up drew night

00:15:49So taking pictures with it. It was crazy

00:15:52Like if you if you were in a coma for the last 15 years or something you'd be like

00:15:58Oh, is this guy like one of the greatest of all time of all time that played at Michigan State?

00:16:01He's like it's like magic

00:16:03He put on Michigan State shorts to warm up for the Suns game

00:16:09There's kids there's kids that went to that Suns game that are gonna think Devin Booker played at Michigan State

00:16:15You're right. It'd be one thing if he was like, I grew up going to these Eastern Michigan games or you know

00:16:20And you're like, yeah, but you were never actually gonna seriously play MAAC basketball, we know that

00:16:25Michigan State was in the 2015 Final Four with Devin Booker

00:16:33Anyway

00:16:35Yeah, that was funny

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00:17:24All right. Let's talk about UConn. I want to I want to talk about this because I think this is uh

00:17:29It's an interesting. It's an it

00:17:32It's a discussion to be had about like what you do

00:17:37With

00:17:39Preseason is starting to break my brain. I'm gonna be completely honest break the fourth wall

00:17:43preseason for college basketball is breaking my brain because of the transfer portal and

00:17:47Because I don't think it's hard to like keep tabs on on the guys moving anymore

00:17:52Like I can I've gotten not that bad at that like I can figure out the rosters and I know

00:17:57Who's at Kansas now and I know you know?

00:18:00Who left here who's there all that sort of shit?

00:18:02I know who UConn lost who they brought in I can I can process all of that. That is not that is not a

00:18:08New thing anymore. What is difficult is is understanding how all the pieces will fit together and

00:18:15I say that to say

00:18:17Last year going into the season. I UConn was was highly ranked I was

00:18:23not

00:18:24Skeptical I was I remember vividly just being like I don't know man like the people they're losing

00:18:30The the big three they're losing Jackson and Hawkins and Sonoga

00:18:34They they were fucking awesome and like I I saw with my own two eyes what what those three guys brought to the table

00:18:42They're losing those guys. I know they're bringing in good players

00:18:44I just want to see what it looks like first because I can't conceptualize what this will look like I got a look at it

00:18:49And I was like I'll be goddamn this might be a better UConn team than the team before it

00:18:53And away we go and they win a they win another national title now

00:18:57We're to we're a point going into this season where Danny Hurley's trying to pull the the Tom Amanski

00:19:03I'm trying to make that a thing by the way. Do you remember the Amanski videos explain it to me?

00:19:07Fuck dude. I guess it's gonna be an uphill battle

00:19:10Tom Amanski made these videos back in the 90s those commercials. I'd come on like during Nickelodeon where

00:19:16It was I don't know how to explain it other than just like it was like a little league baseball team that looked like I

00:19:22Fucking North Korea wait, I know with Fred McGriff. Yeah with Fred McGriff

00:19:26And all these kids are just like in unison like holding their arms back

00:19:29And then like if this was this came out of North Korea. We'd all be terrified. Yeah like

00:19:34It's like a gym class

00:19:37But it's like it's like just some old guy in Florida like just throwing grounders to two twelve-year-olds and Fred McGriff said it

00:19:43They're all just bent over. Yeah

00:19:46Um

00:19:48But the thing that sticks in my mind is like the narrator of the video is like Tom Amanski one back to back to back

00:19:53AAU national champions and that just like burns in my so anytime I hear back to back to back

00:19:58I'm like, that's the Amanski right here. So anyway

00:20:01Danny Hurley's trying to pull the pull off the Amanski and

00:20:04I'm in a from I'm in the same position where it's like I

00:20:09Yukon aid Mahaney's coming in Leah Leah McNeely. Those are the two guys they get they give me Mahaney from st

00:20:15Mary's who as a freshman he was so he averaged like 14 a game as a freshman at st

00:20:20Mary's which is like averaging 35 a game, you know at st. Mary's 14 a game is fucking nuts

00:20:26Sophomore year he kind of has the exact same season. He his efficiency goes down

00:20:31You can you can chalk that up to like he lost a Logan Johnson

00:20:35I think was the guy's name was it was the guard that he was with freshman year and then like he leaves I think

00:20:39sophomore year and

00:20:41You know the the defense can key more on him in his sophomore year

00:20:45To where the efficiency goes down because it's like he doesn't have quite as much help

00:20:49He's not as much a surprise as scouting reports out there

00:20:51Whatever. He he kind of has a similar year now in Mahaney's is from what I've seen. He's a good basketball player

00:20:56I'm not gonna pretend like I've watched every second of him at st. Mary's

00:20:59He's pretty good. Liam McNeely's a five-star coming in who Indiana?

00:21:04I can't remember did it was he committed to Indiana or Indiana thought they had him?

00:21:08And then he he goes to UConn last second

00:21:11He was a highly thought-of guy that a lot of these

00:21:13You know schools that are throwing the bag around wanted and and now he's he's committed from yeah

00:21:18He was committed to Indiana D committed goes to UConn

00:21:20Those are the guys they're bringing it now. I I think they're good

00:21:24I I'm not here to say they're not going to be good

00:21:27But I'm back in the same position Tate where I'm like, you're losing Tristan Newton. You're losing Donovan Klingon. You're losing Cam Spencer

00:21:35I'm falling into the trap again. And like I see I hope you're listening Danny Hurley. I hope you're listening

00:21:40I see this yesterday and I'm like

00:21:43At some point they have to fall off. But like I'm not here to say that UConn is not going to be

00:21:49Like they're gonna be third in the Big East. Of course, they're gonna be really fucking good

00:21:53But is it unreasonable to think that like at some point at some point someone has to be brave enough to step up and say

00:21:59I do not believe that UConn will win the fucking national championship and Evan Miyakawa was that brave

00:22:05So he put him ninth. He didn't put him 94th. I he put it right

00:22:08Let me let you know a couple secrets real quick

00:22:10First secret is is if Danny hurt if he would have put UConn one

00:22:15Danny Hurley would have been upset that they were number. Yeah, he would have been like that's respectful to the guys

00:22:20We lost you like do you see what we lost you guys haven't done shit in a UConn uniform yet

00:22:25My favorite part about the whole thing. So Danny Hurley dunks on him and he's like, oh, thank like thank you

00:22:30By the way, what were we ranked the past two years? Yeah, you know what they were ranked last year preseason on

00:22:35In his right in his right. Yes, probably top ten as well six

00:22:42They were six now the year before they were 30th, but that wasn't out and yeah out of the nowhere like whatever but sixth and

00:22:49Finishing his national champions. We were preseason sick. I forgot about Stefan Castle, too

00:22:53That's another guy that lost their freshman who first round draft pick that they lost him as well

00:22:58They just lose and yeah, like of course, you're just gonna plug in they bring back caravan

00:23:03They bring back Samson Johnson like they have

00:23:05There is a little bit of a carryover and that's what the good programs do is that you you're gonna lose guys

00:23:10They're gonna go to the draft. They're gonna move on

00:23:12But you bring enough back to now you look at Alex caravan and you're like listen, man

00:23:16You've kind of been I don't want to say a role guy because that diminishes what he's been to this UConn team

00:23:21But you haven't been the best player on our last two title teams. He hasn't

00:23:26You you've fit in where we needed you now

00:23:28It's your turn you step up you be the guy and you keep it going and that's what a good program does

00:23:33Is it just it keeps going that way?

00:23:36And

00:23:38You're not at a certain point. You're not you're not gonna win the national championship

00:23:41so I'm not I'm not saying it's not gonna happen this year tape, but I'm just like I

00:23:45Don't know

00:23:45I'm falling into the exact same trap where I'm like

00:23:47I I don't think it's crazy to have if you're someone that has UConn like seventh going into the season. I don't

00:23:54Respectful. I do think especially with what Bama brings back and Kansas brings back Gonzaga

00:23:59There's a whole same fucking team and and

00:24:01UConn fans are gonna hear that and be like Gonzaga get them out of my face

00:24:04We're so much better than Gonzaga and you probably are but again

00:24:07Danny Hurley has been a coach in basketball for a while

00:24:09So like it's it's fascinating to me and and I and I don't think it's undeserved

00:24:14He's won two national titles in a row, but there's like a belief that when Danny Hurley gets to the NCAA tournament

00:24:20He's going to win the NCAA tournament now

00:24:21That is just not true because we saw Danny Hurley and it's a tournament before these last year

00:24:26In his third year of college, but but like we are behaving like this is what if it's just Donovan Klingon

00:24:33What if it's just like we look back and we just look like it was just Donovan Klingon the whole time

00:24:38I don't know. I'm not here to tell you I have the answers. I'm saying that like asking questions is okay

00:24:43I I do like so Miyakawa was like his it wasn't a feud because his response his explanation was like

00:24:50listen Danny like

00:24:51You guys being ninth is the biggest tip of the cap. I've ever given to you

00:24:55Yeah, like my model respects your coaching so much if you would have gone to the Lakers

00:25:00You would have been the 2015 right model. You're ninth with not returning. Okay, can I can I can I pause right there?

00:25:07And just ask how do you how do you put a model together? Where you factor in the coaching?

00:25:11I don't know but again, I'm not I'm not saying he's wrong

00:25:15I'm just trying to

00:25:16Try to understand that if he had left this summer

00:25:19My model would have had him in 20 to 25, but his coaching factor elevates that a tremendous amount

00:25:24I don't understand algorithms at all. I don't understand the we're not I don't understand the models, but I love it

00:25:29Anytime it favors my guys. I'm an analytics guy. Yeah, I did. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I'm the same way. I just don't

00:25:36The coach leaving I don't know how you factor in a coach coach. Yeah, isn't that is because I that's subjective

00:25:43Yeah, like it is he a good coach is not

00:25:47Objective I also had I had Evan on the show last year heading heading into the season and when he

00:25:53Was probably again like a year ago to the day probably because it was he had put out his preseason when he disrespected UConn

00:26:00Okay, put a six. He put out his preseason list and I had him on the show and I was like

00:26:05Can you explain to me?

00:26:06Again, I'm not attacking it. I just want to know I'm a dumbass

00:26:10How do you how do you have a pre if it's a computer and you're going off of data on the court and all that?

00:26:16How do you have preseason?

00:26:18Analytics when nothing's happened. Yeah. Yeah, like how does Cooper flag factor into your preseason analytics?

00:26:23Yeah, how do you how do you factor that in? How do you factor in the freshman and he explained it?

00:26:27And I was like I said, I said, okay, I got it. You didn't got it. I

00:26:32Did not got it, dude. I did not got it. I was like fuck

00:26:36I'm left more confused. He has a Houston Gonzaga Duke, Bama, Auburn, Iowa State, Kansas, Arizona before UConn

00:26:43I don't think that's

00:26:45With what you're losing

00:26:47Arizona might be I'd be upset if I was thinking about Arizona put it on the bulletin board, Arizona

00:26:52but no, I just I I care less about they're the the algorithm part of it all and just more about like the

00:26:59the the narrative around UConn or the belief around UConn of like I

00:27:04Mean, I listen when I when the bracket comes out and if you con this season does in fact end up being like a top-three

00:27:10Seed, which I is not that crazy. They are not that crazy of a DraftKings sports book. They're the favorite

00:27:17They're literally the favorites right now. Yeah

00:27:19So when the bracket comes out and UConn is a two or three seed, maybe a one seed

00:27:23Maybe it maybe it does pan out that they are one seed

00:27:25I think they're gonna beat the biggie

00:27:27I think when I look at the as an aside when I look at like the power conferences

00:27:31I think every conference is going to be pretty competitive except a bit like in terms of the power conferences

00:27:37except for probably the Big East and competitive at the top

00:27:39I mean like I do think that there are multiple contenders for who could win the thing

00:27:42Except for probably the Big East it is it is going to be UConn

00:27:45So like, you know, if they they lose one game in the Big East or two or something

00:27:49They just like have a dominant run. Mm-hmm. Yeah, of course, they could be a one seed and when that happens

00:27:54of course, I'm gonna pick them to win the national title you have to at this point, but I

00:27:59There is going to be a point tape whether it's this year or seven years now. They're not gonna win every fucking national title and

00:28:06Someone's gonna be right like someone

00:28:09Someone's gonna say it going into the season. Like I think this is the year they fall off and they're going to be right

00:28:13But you know

00:28:15this was this was kind of like people predicting like the dawn of the downfall of Tom Brady where it was like they were doing

00:28:20That 12 years getting your reps in and at one bucket in LeBron

00:28:23I mean, it's the same thing

00:28:24I think this is your LeBron falls off and then he averages like

00:28:2725 and Cody save that clip nine and nine if you can rattles off seven straight Titus will look like a

00:28:34Canadian I think I'm taking the approach of I think it's disrespectful to the guys that they lost to pretend like you can just

00:28:41Lose them and be just as good as you were last year. We that's my that's my thought

00:28:46I agree

00:28:47You can't you can't just look at UConn and be like, you know what Tristan Newton and Castle and Spencer and Klingon

00:28:53They're not gonna miss those guys

00:28:54I think that's disrespectful to those four guys and it the fact of the matter is is that

00:28:59Danny Hurley is a very good basketball coach and everyone knows it

00:29:02There are also very good basketball coaches in the game that have come before him

00:29:07Good basketball coaches don't win

00:29:10Yeah

00:29:11Like they never lose like there are other people that are gonna be on the other sidelines that are good basketball coaches, too

00:29:16Danny Hurley is not better than everyone to the point where he's gonna bring he's gonna win every year

00:29:20I'll say this about the difference between UConn this year and last year

00:29:24I I don't feel like the

00:29:27Last last year. I think a lot of it was Stefan Castle because

00:29:32he was I don't pay as much attention to recruiting as I should and

00:29:36he was

00:29:38fucking awesome for them

00:29:39but I think UConn fans knew he was going to be and there was a ton of hype around him and and

00:29:43When I was raising concerns about like, how are they gonna backfill the the dudes?

00:29:47They're losing a lot of UConn fans. Like just wait. Yeah, we got we got coming

00:29:51I I think they're I think they're high on these guys

00:29:54But I I I'm sensing that the vibes from UConn fans are not quite as like fuck you

00:29:59We're gonna we're gonna run this back and it's more like yeah, I think we'll be in the mix

00:30:03Of course, we'll be in the mix. And of course, we're always gonna have a chance

00:30:07but last year there was like a definitive like

00:30:10Listen, you can say all you want that we're gonna fall off do so

00:30:14Yeah, own caution. They were dragging a little bit. They were very much confident going into the season

00:30:18I think this year they're confident. How could you not be you've won two in a row, but I think it's more of like a

00:30:22We're going to we're gonna be in the mix and I hope it all works out for us

00:30:26Yeah, versus like no. No, we're running this back. It's just what they were last year

00:30:31It felt like they were they were all about the repeat this year

00:30:33It's like we're gonna outperform what you think we can perform right with our team

00:30:36Yeah, this year is more of like a realistic like like how it should work to win a national title, which is like

00:30:43You know, you don't go into a season saying we are head and shoulders better than everybody else and we're gonna just dominate everybody

00:30:49That is extremely rare

00:30:51the way most national title paths shake out is like

00:30:55There are there are seven to ten teams that are good enough to win six six games in NCAA tournament

00:31:02We believe we are one of them. Let's get to March. Let's cross our fingers. We don't have a little love

00:31:07Yeah shots, but I think this year it's more that vibe where it's like we're of course

00:31:13Yeah, I mean, of course, we're gonna have a great fucking team, but I don't think they're like, yeah pulling their balls out

00:31:18Are you all over everybody? Are you cheering for him? Like like last year 37 and three dominant?

00:31:24That would be so good for college basketball. I think you had a three Pete. Um, I'm not

00:31:29I'm not not cheering for them. Okay, is that an answer? I'm not I'll put it this way

00:31:34I'm not not not not cheering for them. Well, that makes sense. Yeah

00:31:38No, perfect sense. I think from the Yukon thing with me is like

00:31:43You I in general you you do cheer for the newcomer and Yukon is one two in a row

00:31:49So going into this season, you'd be like, all right, let's get something new

00:31:51Let's get something fresh. Like is this is this Gonzaga's year to break through? Can we get Iowa? Iowa State's gonna be good

00:31:56They bring they were fucking awesome last year. They bring back like their top four players

00:32:01you know, maybe maybe it's like Iowa State taught like how fun of a story would that be if Iowa State won a national title or

00:32:07You know a school like that is generally where my mind goes

00:32:12And yet I I enjoy watching Yukon basketball so much right that I think that ultimately trumps everything else where it's like

00:32:19I just want to watch good teams be good and

00:32:23The older I get the less I care about

00:32:26And and frankly a lot of it has to do with like the coaches that you grow up hating and have and feeling some type

00:32:32of way about are now leaving

00:32:34Leaving the game the good the the heroes and the villains of of yesteryear

00:32:39We'll say or like now phasing their way out to where it's like

00:32:42I mean, I don't really I don't really hate or love. Yeah, I'm some of these coaches more than any others

00:32:48you know to where like I'm saying that to say like the the storylines or the the vibes around certain programs are

00:32:55Strong with me as I've gotten older if that makes it so I just gravitate to like I just want to watch good teams

00:33:00For me. It's also like a like I want

00:33:04You're asking is it good for college basketball? I think it is good for college basketball to have teams that are good

00:33:08Right. I think it's good for college basketball to like be able to point to a team and Yukon was that last year to

00:33:14The people that are like man, I can't watch college because it's a brick fest

00:33:18These guys don't know what the fuck they're doing

00:33:19there's no skill all that to have teams that you can point to and be like dude you should turn this team on because they

00:33:24They move the ball. They cut hard. They play great defense like all that sort of thing

00:33:29I get I get fired up watching that so in that regard like yeah

00:33:33If you can wins it if you can plays they don't have to be as talented as they were last year

00:33:38but if they continue and I assume they will because it's the same coaching staff and and all that if they play like the same

00:33:44Style of basketball then then yeah, I'm probably gonna just be like I want to hate him

00:33:48But I mean, they're so fucking fun to watch. How can you I just I hope we have this same conversation a year from now

00:33:53Well, we're sitting here and they've lost everybody and they we have a bunch of newcomers

00:33:57But Evans model is just like his coaching is so good that I had to put him number one overall coming off three titles

00:34:04I mean what there's gonna be a year where?

00:34:08They're gonna miss on some recruits

00:34:10There's gonna be a year where like they go to the transfer portal like Kansas did last funny enough

00:34:15They got cam Spencer last year if memory serves

00:34:18Uh

00:34:19Kansas cam Spencer was not supposed to I gotta pick my words carefully

00:34:24But like Kansas had like one spot left

00:34:26They were they were looking at Nick Timberlake was the kids name that they brought in and cam Spencer

00:34:31I think was the other guy and they go with Nick Timberlake who was like a score at what school did he come from?

00:34:35Was it thousand?

00:34:38Thousand

00:34:39Timberlake, yeah

00:34:41It does say yeah, they chose Timberlake over chose Timberlake over Spencer Spencer then lands

00:34:47Yeah, a thousand universe a thousand Timberlake like averaged a thousand points a game a thousand and they were like, all right

00:34:52we that's a guy we need we need we want to shoot it and we want as a

00:34:55Holy cow. He averaged Jesus. Well, I'm sorry. Continue continue. I

00:35:01Was looking up Timberlake to get you his previous score and I was going through his minutes

00:35:05I was like this motherfucker lit it up. Oh, that was his thousand, but it was his minutes per game. Oh

00:35:13Yeah, so

00:35:14What I was saying so so can't like Kansas last year goes with Timberlake over Spencer that you know

00:35:22Probably proved to be a mistake

00:35:24Spencer's a better basketball player

00:35:26Spencer ends up at UConn and I'm using that as an example to say like at some point that's going to happen at UConn where

00:35:30They're gonna hit the transfer portal. They're gonna be like we this is a guy we've identified as being awesome

00:35:34We bring him in he's not quite as good as they thought and

00:35:37They take a step back like Kansas kind of did last year Kansas

00:35:41You know didn't have an awesome season or by Kansas standards at least

00:35:44so they're gonna fall off and then we're all gonna look back on and be like damn we should have seen this coming but

00:35:49You know, I'm not gonna be the I'm not gonna be the one to say that it's happening this year

00:35:54But it's gonna happen at some point and I I'll defend my guy having me a cobble for ranking the fucking night night

00:36:02All right. Let's talk about AJ DeBanta

00:36:04Because I I don't want all of my my BYU

00:36:08I

00:36:09Don't want to say it was a rabbit hole because it wasn't really that deep

00:36:11I could have we could have gone deeper, but you got to be you got it

00:36:15You got to be careful diving into BYU rabbit holes, especially like you got to be careful. Yeah, I've been into

00:36:21Anytime you get around a BYU hole. You gotta you uh

00:36:26You're gonna want to be careful. You're gonna want to be careful. Oh, yeah. I don't I don't yeah, I'm not trying to

00:36:32yeah to fall too far into things but uh

00:36:35BYU is

00:36:37suddenly becoming a player in college basketball in a way that I certainly didn't see coming and maybe you should have because

00:36:45Basically, it's this that the BYU they first of all have

00:36:49the kid from

00:36:51Russia

00:36:52demean the men some there's a freshman kid. I don't know why I'm looking to you guys like you would know

00:36:59Igor Deming or the men. Um, he's nasty dude. He's like six eight. Is he six eight long arm, dude

00:37:06nine highly skilled I

00:37:08Well, I was watching looks like to do I was watching clips of him the other day and he's just he looks fucking nasty

00:37:13They get the cannon catchings kid

00:37:15Like I said, he was a five-star and then became a four-star and I don't know where he's at now

00:37:20He's not like, you know, he's not a he's not at the Bantz a level talent

00:37:23But I think that he's he's gonna be a he's thought to be a future first-round pick

00:37:28And all of this is happening after they lost their coach. They lose Mark Pope to Kentucky. He takes Jackson Robinson with them

00:37:35um

00:37:36They they they're you know

00:37:39The way college basketball generally works is that BYU would be rebuilding right now and BYU

00:37:44You know take a few years to get some things going now all of a sudden you look up the number one recruit

00:37:49Who I thought Cooper flag was the greatest recruit ever, but now all of a sudden there's a recruit coming behind your flag

00:37:54It's even better of the Cooper flag. AJ the Bantz, uh is has got BYU in his mix now. He hasn't committed

00:38:00I'm not saying he's going to go to BYU

00:38:02But I think if you're a casual college basketball observer, you might be scratching your head. Like what is it about BYU?

00:38:07Ah, you know what it is. He's probably Mormon. That's what it is. He's probably you know what it's it's got to be what it is

00:38:12He's just he's just Mormon because that's the connect

00:38:14You know, there's there's really only one Mormon School of Note in college basketball if you're Mormon you go to BYU

00:38:19That's probably oh, he's not Mormon. Oh fuck. It's the crazy

00:38:23however, the whole house then how is he doing this and how he's doing this Tate is

00:38:28The Utah Jazz owner Ryan Smith is a billionaire

00:38:32and I think I think I have to believe that's just what's going on is that like I

00:38:37Is it a coincidence that the Utah Jazz as a franchise are falling off a little bit?

00:38:41And they are going to be one of the worst teams in the NBA

00:38:44They're not gonna probably be the worst but they are among the worst teams in the NBA right now

00:38:48But but BYU basketball now BYU if I think the big 12 poll came out yesterday or two days ago or something

00:38:56I think they were picked like 9th

00:38:58Which says more about the depth of the big 12 to me than BYU. I don't think that's I

00:39:03Think the days of like there used to be a time where you were picked 9th in your conference

00:39:07You're like fuck we're gonna miss the tournament, but now it's like I mean, yeah, that doesn't mean anything

00:39:12I think BYU could be pretty good this year

00:39:15But they get Kevin young who was who's got all these NBA ties. He's uh, he was on staff for for Monty Williams and

00:39:23Phoenix and

00:39:25He's got Chris Paul in his back pocket and Chris Paul's like yeah

00:39:27I'm all about BYU apparently and Chris Paul is gonna like help

00:39:30His guy like Chris Paul Chris Paul is like an ambassador to like every everybody the game to the game

00:39:36He's like an ambassador to everybody that he likes

00:39:38So they got Chris Paul now they got Ryan Smith

00:39:42dropping bags left and right and

00:39:44Suddenly, I'm looking at the landscape of all BYU's in the big 12 the best basketball conference in the country

00:39:49I'll be goddamn. I think BYU is is going to be a player whether they get the banter or not

00:39:56If you have a billionaire

00:39:58It's one thing to like have a billionaire alum. It's another thing to have a billionaire alum who cares about the program

00:40:03It's another thing to have a billionaire alum who like lives and breathes sports

00:40:07You know what? I mean?

00:40:08Like there's like the the the Walton family at Arkansas, of course

00:40:12they care about Arkansas and of course they I don't I feel like Ryan Smith is like

00:40:17Actually like wants to be on the court with the play like he's like a young dude that like wants to actually like fucking hoop

00:40:22And like, you know, you know what?

00:40:24I mean like there's like levels to this where like he wants to like be in it and like do whatever it takes

00:40:28I think I don't know. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm like, holy shit

00:40:31I think I think BYU as a BYU is a program has never made a Final Four

00:40:36They really they've only had like the Jimmer era was like the only era where they were like going to the tournament every

00:40:42Consistent consistently, they've only had two in the past decade. Yeah, like they were consistent for the Jim era

00:40:47They went like six seven years in a row two in the last decade not overly dominant in anything

00:40:53How are they getting they have a that Russian guys projected top ten top ten now?

00:40:57They're talking about getting the number one recruit of all time and the bands. I think right now

00:41:01I think this year's BYU team and

00:41:04Listen, a lot of things happen players there that are highly thought of we find out they suck and their draft stock tanks

00:41:10That happens all the time

00:41:11So I'm not getting ahead of myself, but as it stands right now

00:41:13I believe that cannon catchings and the Russian kid are both like

00:41:17Lottery picks certainly first-round pick type guys

00:41:21They have to have two of those guys at BYU and they have then they're in the mix for the bands who's according to Goodman

00:41:28Asking for seven to nine million dollars and I think BYU will do it. I think BYU is one of the few schools

00:41:33It's like fuck it dude

00:41:34This is because we have a guy who like if you have as much money in my mind if you're a billionaire you have unlimited

00:41:39Money, right. You just have what is seven million dollars to a billionaire? I don't know. Yeah, I don't I wouldn't know

00:41:45that shit the truth is exactly like you just said it's

00:41:49Everyone has big-time donors. Everyone has I'm sorry big-time alumni with a lot of money

00:41:54But who has the active ones that would literally like it would change their life to see their team be like Dave

00:42:00Portnoy is a great example. Dave's a great example. Like you will pay three million dollars. So Michigan gets their quarterback

00:42:06Yeah, he wants to know who the guy is and then go get him. That's how BYU is acting right now

00:42:10I don't care what the money is. I want my team. I have to believe it's it's that because uh, the

00:42:16Having a donor that you don't have to convince at all

00:42:18Not only not only do you not have to convince they're like begging to like give money to the school to help them out

00:42:25which again Dave's a good example that he's

00:42:28you know, he's not a he's not a billionaire owner of a franchise, but

00:42:32There are levels to it and I think a lot of the schools

00:42:35yeah, they have like rich as fuck people that

00:42:38You could sit them down and talk to them and be like, this is why we need your money and they'll be like, yeah

00:42:42Sure, I'll give you money but to have a guy who's like like in my mind Ryan Smith is just like on 24-7

00:42:48recruiting rankings

00:42:52And uh, I don't know I was I was diving into it last night

00:42:55I was like, I don't think it's a coincidence that BYU is on the up as the jazz around you think he was a jazz

00:43:00Man, I'd be worried about that. But the only saving grace. What if he's starting a pipeline? What if he's

00:43:05Brick little da Bansa to BYU. Yeah jazz

00:43:09You know, how would that you need the you need the draft pick you had a tank jets to get the number one spot

00:43:15Yeah, if this was like if this was like the the old days where you had the territorial pick

00:43:20That would be a good strategy. Hmm where you could just might not be the long con then. Yeah, but I don't know

00:43:25I don't know how that's gonna work. But uh, yeah, we'll see

00:43:28I guess like see what see what the jazz start doing in free agency. See how see what kind of money they're throwing around

00:43:32Close down the state. They're like, yeah, if they're not a

00:43:35They're not tossing the bag around a free agency. We'll know why um, yeah, but I

00:43:41if the Bantz is asking for seven to nine for real, um, I

00:43:46BYU becomes a

00:43:48serious player because I

00:43:50Don't think the Bantz are going to a Duke or Kentucky is is worth it to them because they don't they don't need

00:43:56Like that what the Bantz is gonna do is put eyeballs on a program that don't have that need to eyeballs

00:44:01Yeah, he's not worth 10 million to Duke Duke has a million. Yeah people that we don't have

00:44:06Yeah eyeballs

00:44:07we're gonna we could we could throw five fucking schmoes out there and it's still we're gonna sign a

00:44:12Massive TV contracts and when we play Carolina, there's gonna be 10 million people watching or whatever the number is

00:44:19But if the Bantz it goes to BYU suddenly

00:44:21Everybody's locked in on BYU in a way that they they weren't before and I think that that's what

00:44:25That's what makes it interesting with his recruiting. I got a conspiracy to run by you. Yeah

00:44:31Is there any I mean, there's no way he's getting seven to nine million. I think you think he's paying Goodman to rise his

00:44:39rise his rate

00:44:41Because if that's a option, let me say this AJ to Bantz is asking for 20 million dollars in NIL

00:44:48He's got pay me a little bit. We can just get his number up

00:44:51I don't think you'd have to pay Goodman. I think you just have to like

00:44:55Just give Goodman a little attention

00:44:59Give him some scoops. I there's just I think I think what you have to do is just like dap Goodman up

00:45:05And then and he'll just be your mouthpiece

00:45:07Yeah, just you just dap him you just you just like fire off like one clean dap and he walks away from he's like god

00:45:12Damn, that was worth everything. I've ever done fucking awesome, dude

00:45:14I just am I the coolest motherfucker in the world now that I just dapped up just look like I don't know

00:45:20I've never heard anything in football or basketball even come close to the seven to nine million

00:45:24So I yeah, it does this doesn't make sense to me why I will say basketball guys football runs everything

00:45:31in terms of commentary alignment money and

00:45:34College sports and all that

00:45:35I do think basketball guys are worth more money because they have the they have the ability on the on the snap of a finger

00:45:41To turn things around for programs

00:45:43Yeah, you're for like I said like for these TV contracts and attention on the program and all that you sign

00:45:48I mean Travis Hunter was a good example when he went to Dion's the Jackson State, right? That was a school. Yeah

00:45:54He was like the number one recruit in the country goes to Jackson State and everyone's like man

00:45:58I don't care right like I mean like you're kind of like hearing like tidbits coming out of Jackson State like every so often you'd

00:46:04See a clip when when he was playing for Dion there

00:46:07You got it in football. You need like either multiple players or to be at a big program and basketball. You don't need that

00:46:13Yeah, like Tennessee just got a an offensive tackle in the big story was like, oh he demanded a million dollars

00:46:18Okay. Yeah, we'll pay it

00:46:19We'll get but you also need another offensive tackle and then someone to run the football behind you

00:46:24Yeah basketball you get one dude, you can change your entire outlook but for seven million dollars, dude

00:46:28You could buy you could you could get a starting five. That's like all five stars. Ooh, I don't like I like that idea

00:46:35Yeah, I don't know Ryan Smith net worth. He's kind of poor

00:46:39to get 2.2 billion 2.2, that's

00:46:43I thought I was gonna be tell me tell me that's not a dude. That's like locked in that dude

00:46:48Backwards hat. Yeah, but why what's it should be doing at Michigan State? I think it should be as I

00:46:54Don't know dude. I don't know enough about these guys. I need to I

00:46:59need to

00:47:00Pay more attention to this stuff

00:47:02Follow the bag. Ooh 10.1 from ish B. It's B's got fucking money buddy getting the game. He's been he yeah

00:47:08I think the Michigan State thing was like Dan Gilbert was

00:47:12I

00:47:13Think there's a I don't know. I'm talking out of my like a riff

00:47:16You're something I'm talking out of my ass, but I think Dan Gilbert's a Michigan State guy

00:47:19Yeah, I think it should be a Gilbert. That's exactly what it don't love each other

00:47:24I'm gonna make that up and I think I think there's some there's some friction there with like

00:47:30Why the the money machines not going?

00:47:34Burr, whatever. Yeah, they both want

00:47:37Credit yeah, there's a there's like yeah, there's like a stalemate of like who's gonna who's the mains?

00:47:42I'm not I'm not giving you this money unless you suck my dick and you're like what I already promised to suck his dick

00:47:46He's like, well, you got to suck one dick. Who's gonna be and that's the problem at Michigan State

00:47:51And I think that might be going on a little bit. Um, what else we got going on? Uh, oh

00:47:56Bronte James, dude, you hear about this kid. I did. Oh, dude let off Sports Center. Oh

00:48:03Bronte Oh

00:48:06That was when he and his dad went on the court together at the same time in that preseason game

00:48:12My breath was taken away. Yeah, it was historical magical moment for sure. Um, did you see his game log though?

00:48:19What do you?

00:48:21Zeros is trillions. Yeah, it's it's bad. He's played three games gets like 12 minutes a game

00:48:26Hasn't hit a 3-1 for 11 from the field. Are we gonna do this all year?

00:48:30That's what I was gonna ask you. Like when do you think when do you think they stopped talking about Bronte?

00:48:34And I'm part of the problem obviously I'm in the media

00:48:37I'm not pretending I'm not but I I generally just talk about whatever I see on TV

00:48:43That's and I see and then give your take

00:48:45I see a lot of Bronte on TV right now, and I'm just curious when that's going to end

00:48:49I mean sham said they have plans to play them together

00:48:53Like we're gonna see history be made probably in regular season game number one. Yeah, but then and then what I don't know because

00:49:01If you got it like by Christmas, he's got to be

00:49:05We got it. We got to send him to the G League by Christmas, right? I mean, what are we what are we doing?

00:49:09What are we doing? Don't get on LeBron's you said it you said it not too long ago

00:49:13Like if you're a Lakers fan, you got to just be losing your mind at this whole thing going on the circus this whole circus

00:49:18Circus comes to town this whole

00:49:21What was the what was LeBron complaining about with the Milwaukee thing, too? I don't understand

00:49:26It was peak LeBron

00:49:28Just I'm the most important person in the world whatever he tweeted

00:49:33First of all, I think he just realized it in like real time

00:49:36Like someone said hey, by the way

00:49:37You have to go get on a plane because they had a preseason game against Milwaukee

00:49:41And he said can someone explain to me why we are flying to Milwaukee for a preseason game?

00:49:47Well, first of all LeBron because it'd be quite the long drive. So you're taking the plane

00:49:53Second of all you get paid 50 million dollars a year just to play basketball

00:49:58You you're in the preseason. You have some home games. You have some away games like Minnesota just came to you

00:50:04Then they went to New York

00:50:06That's the way the world works

00:50:09So

00:50:10His complaint was just like why don't we just play the Clippers? Yeah, his times his preseason schedule was home

00:50:18home

00:50:19home

00:50:21Phoenix Golden State and then one game in Milwaukee. Oh

00:50:26I'll defend LeBron just to say that uh, if you've been at a job for

00:50:3225 years and

00:50:34You have to take a dumbass trip across the country. I

00:50:39Think I would complain about it too. But like you said, he's you're flying private making

00:50:44Yeah, it's not the hard

00:50:45Godly amounts of money. This is like a very funny thing to or like just be frustrated, but I don't know

00:50:50It's like a very funny thing to just fire off a tweet about

00:50:53It frustrated in private dude. The replies were great, too. It's like why are we going to Milwaukee?

00:50:57It's like well LeBron if I'm not mistaken, that's where the Bucs play like that's where you have a game tonight

00:51:02But also LeBron, let me say this if you could guarantee Milwaukee that you would play

00:51:08In your game when you play them this year, that's it's I I see what he's saying

00:51:13Like why can't if these games don't matter? Why can't we stay out on the West Coast?

00:51:17Well LeBron is because you're the most famous person in the world and other people want to see you

00:51:20That's why they pay their money. And when you do this load management shit

00:51:23I don't want to be like an old man yelling at clouds. It's kind of bullshit and people want to see you

00:51:28See you while you can yeah

00:51:31Do we need a preseason six games seems like a lot

00:51:36preseason

00:51:37Have you ever cared about a preseason?

00:51:39I'm trying to think of like when I was a kid did I care about preseason in high school?

00:51:42Like did you guys have a certain amount of scrimmages you had? Yeah, we did

00:51:46Yeah, I thought scrimmages in high school were a big deal to you know varsity JV, whatever college. What's a scrimmage situation like?

00:51:53Oh, it's coming up. We're getting them right now. They do

00:51:56They're doing

00:51:58Charity exhibitions have become invoked. So we're getting a lot of I think Memphis and Carolina are the first big one

00:52:04I think that's happening Monday. I want to say

00:52:07They're they they're starting to do televised scrimmages, but it used to be the secret or televised exhibitions

00:52:14I should say for charity used to be

00:52:17Just secret scrimmages and against other against other schools, but it was like very controlled

00:52:23It was it was almost never like a 40-minute like let's just play this like a real game. It was always like let's do

00:52:29let's do like a

00:52:3015 minute running clock. Mm-hmm where both teams play zone, you know, and then like let's do a 15 minute running clock

00:52:36We're both teams press. Let's do work on some base. Yeah

00:52:40Yeah

00:52:41So that first time you guys came out on the court in like a real game setting was against, you know

00:52:47Green and then you play one exhibition or you beat the fuck out of like an NAI school or something that you yeah

00:52:52Oh, yeah, you'd like wall. Yeah. Yeah, you play one exhibition

00:52:56And I get really nervous for those cuz I was like, dude, I might I might get 12 minutes tonight. It's my time

00:53:00Yeah, and I did not want 12 minutes. Oh show coach. But other than that, yeah, you're

00:53:06College has a pretty short preseason

00:53:09Which like I this is a controversial opinion and it's probably the wrong one

00:53:13But I don't think I I don't think I like the exhibitions being public. I don't

00:53:20Let me hold on now that I'm hearing myself say this all these exhibitions are for charity

00:53:27So, let me uh, let me let me think this through um

00:53:31Secret scrimmages are so fun because the only thing that comes out of secret scrimmages generally are box scores and hearsay

00:53:38Mm-hmm, and you can paint whatever picture you want with that

00:53:43the the exhibitions that are televised are

00:53:48It's more like in-your-face obviously

00:53:50It's not as fun to like be like what the fuck it but like just sitting here and suddenly there's a box score that pops

00:53:56Up on your timeline. That's like I remember one a few years ago Marquette scored like a hundred and twenty points against somebody

00:54:02I was like, what the fuck they're playing back. It was the Tyler Colick Marquette. It had to been

00:54:07Maybe it was the Marcus Howard like way back then

00:54:10But yeah, that was one that stood out to me

00:54:12It was like I just out of nowhere Marquette's dropping 120 points in a scrimmage. I like that a lot better than uh,

00:54:20Then like seeing the real game because then you're watching the real game

00:54:22It feels real and then you remind yourself. This is preseason. This doesn't matter

00:54:25That's why pretty good sucked into the trap and you're like, oh shit this matters

00:54:29but then it doesn't matter and it doesn't whereas the secret scrimmage is you can paint whatever picture you want and I

00:54:35They still have a lot of secret scrimmages. They're still there's not a secret. Why do you cuz they cuz they

00:54:40They say they're coming. So that's not really secret. You know, yeah, those are known

00:54:45Yeah, but they they used to be legitimately secret scrimmages like they when you say secret. Are you talking?

00:54:51They were legal right? Like no, they were allowed to do allowed to do it. You just didn't like tell anybody

00:54:58Yeah, just be like one coach would call another like we would we would call like

00:55:04you know and you just call like the Dayton coach if you're the Ohio State coach and you're so you want to pop over real

00:55:08Quick and run five on five and they're like, yeah, let's do it

00:55:11That's all then you just run and then there would be like no box score getting leaked

00:55:15There would be no anything else and then you just shake hands and be like, thanks. That was that was good

00:55:19It was good to get some good run against because like in practice as you know, like you can't

00:55:24You can have your starting five play the reserves

00:55:27But then that's obviously a talent imbalance because the starting five is gonna be better

00:55:31So then you split up the starting five and put them on opposite

00:55:34But then you want the starting five to have cohesion

00:55:36So like the only real way to get that is to pop in with some scrimmages

00:55:40So that's that's kind of how it started and then

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00:56:44What else is going on? Danny Green retired?

00:56:47Danny Green is a

00:56:49Legend to me all the famer all the famer. Yeah, he's one of four players

00:56:53They have three and three NBA titles one for each different team and one at UNC. Oh

00:56:59Say that again, he's one of four players in NBA history to have won an NBA title with three different teams

00:57:06the other ones are

00:57:08LeBron James

00:57:11Um

00:57:13Robert Orry and Steve Kerr

00:57:17Right

00:57:18Pull it right with the other three Steve Kerr one with no Steve Kerr only one

00:57:22It's only four players in NBA history on

00:57:25or he won with

00:57:28Robert or he's one of them. He's got to be or he won with or he won with the the Rockets the Lakers and the Spurs

00:57:36Oh

00:57:39No, why can't I get Cody no, oh wait, I

00:57:43Have them. Okay. I have Robert or is one of them Robert or is one of them

00:57:46Okay, so Danny Green's one of them and there's two more. Yes. I said Steve Kerr. I don't think it's Steve Kirk

00:57:51He's not Kerr only one with two

00:57:55Fuck I mean, why did I dive into this? No, you had it the three different teams like

00:58:01You had one I

00:58:04Said LeBron, yeah, okay. No, I thought I thought that was sorry

00:58:08Yeah, LeBron, you have three of the four and then this one I would say LeBron

00:58:12notable notable guy

00:58:15But would be very impressive if you got it pull this. Hold on. Let me think about it. Um,

00:58:20Fucking let's see here

00:58:22one

00:58:26Hmm who's got who's it was a bad boy

00:58:30Hmm. Oh, yeah, it's Rodman. No, what no, huh close

00:58:41Who who he went back-to-back in 89 90 John Sally Pistons Bulls Lakers John Sally

00:58:49Pistons he was oh my god Bulls Lakers drafted 11th and 86. I don't remember John Sally on the Bulls. I remember him

00:58:56What was that TV show? He did best damn sports show period with Tom Arnold

00:59:01Like Chris Rose, dude, that's how I know my John Sally. Ah, listen, man legends of the game the other historians of the game

00:59:08I should say

00:59:09Would recognize best damn sports show period as maybe the first ever sports podcast

00:59:14You could argue was maybe the first ever sports by it was just dudes hanging out just shooting the shit

00:59:19They didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. Tom Arnold was there for some reason

00:59:23This is when I think Tom Arnold was married to Roseanne at the time

00:59:27It ran for eight years nine years

00:59:31John Sally Chris Rose Tom Arnold who else it was those are the big three. I remembered. Yeah

00:59:37Here's one for you best damn sports show period blazed the trail for today's sports podcast media

00:59:42What I mean, is that not just what I just said it

00:59:46Best name sports show period first ever sports podcast. Wait, Michael Irving. I forgot about that

00:59:53Um

00:59:55I'm trying to think of other other thoughts. I had uh, I

00:59:59Think Kansas. I have this sister some straight college basketball thoughts. I think Kansas is going to be I mean, obviously

01:00:06They might be the number one team in the country at this time next week

01:00:09So it's not that controversial to say but I will say coming off of the season. They just had

01:00:13Maybe it is I I didn't believe in Kansas last year

01:00:16I was that was one of my preseason takes that I ended up being right about I was like

01:00:20I don't I don't trust the depth. They were a four-man team and they were banged up before the four guys they did have

01:00:26Seemed to be hurt at all times. I think Kansas is gonna be good as fuck and I'm basing that off of

01:00:32Kind of the the what you lose and what you replace thing where they're losing McCuller who was their best player

01:00:37Hunter Dickinson won all the the all-american honors last year. Kevin McCuller was their best player. I

01:00:44Hunter Dickinson is gonna be a preseason first-team all-american Tate and it's it's going to fire me up

01:00:48it's in and I I'm in a weird spot because I acknowledge that Hunter Dickinson is really fucking good and he puts up numbers and

01:00:55but

01:00:57Hunter Dickinson was not Kansas his best player

01:00:59I don't understand how he was the all-american and Kevin McCuller wasn't if you watch if you watch ten seconds of Kansas basketball last year

01:01:05You really Kevin McCuller the guy who can actually play defense the guy who's like fucking carrying them on offense

01:01:10like he's their best player he missed like

01:01:13like the the people that that

01:01:16Didn't vote him all-american will tell you that he missed half the season with injury

01:01:19He didn't he only missed like five to ten games or something

01:01:22I don't I don't get why he wasn't the all-american on the team last year

01:01:25Big 12 preseason player of the year 100 Dickinson. Yeah, he'll be he's good

01:01:29He should be he should be in the mix. He's the face of the team

01:01:32If you say that Hunter Dickinson is not an all-american candidate

01:01:35You're wrong about that

01:01:36But if if if I go into the season and Hunter Dickinson is the preseason national player there

01:01:41I'm gonna lose my fucking mind because

01:01:43He can't it like you

01:01:45He's a liability on defense and ball screen defense and everybody knows this and I don't understand how you can be

01:01:51Like a weak spot on your team and also be the best player in the anyway, fuck that

01:01:56Like I'm trying to I'm trying to build bridges with Hunter. He's not at Michigan anymore. All's good

01:02:00He became to his credit last year. He started the season. He pulled his dick out when they were preseason number one

01:02:06He was like we're preseason number one. I love that. We're preseason number one. All of you can kiss my ass

01:02:10I don't know why he pulls dick out. They'll be able to kiss his ass, but he did it was very weird

01:02:17So he puffed his chest and he was like, I love that. We're number one. We're gonna beat everyone's ass

01:02:22and I think Bill Self was like Hunter let's let's tone it down a little bit and then he kind of as

01:02:26As they say shut up shut up and play basketball or whatever shut up and shut up and Dickinson. He shut up and dribbled

01:02:33So, you know, I'm trying to not like stoke those flames too much, but I'm just I I have a disease

01:02:39you know this Tate I have to call it like I see it and hundred and pretending like pretending like under Dickinson was

01:02:45He's one of the best players in the country. He was not the best player on his own team and Kevin McCullough was

01:02:50Anyway long preamble to say they're losing McCullough. I don't love that

01:02:55But I do think where Kansas had a problem last year was their depth

01:03:00They had four dudes that if they could play four on five, they probably would have they they

01:03:04They did not love

01:03:07That they really never figured out who who the fifth starter was

01:03:10I think Furphy like emerged for them late and he was playing well there for a second and then

01:03:15You know, like he was never really fully

01:03:18What they thought he would be I think this year they're bringing in Zeke Mayo who's like a Kansas kid

01:03:24I think from one of the Dakota State

01:03:27South Dakota State

01:03:29He was the summit player the year yeah, he was a monster was a fucking monster they're bringing in him

01:03:34They're bringing an AJ store from Wisconsin. They're bringing in Rylan Griffin from Alabama and the way I see it

01:03:40They basically only have to hit on one of those three

01:03:45Because when you're bringing back when you're bringing back kg

01:03:47I have 100 tickets in it is good

01:03:49Dewan Harris is one of the best point guards in the country and hunter as much as I as

01:03:53Much as I always have to preface by saying he is good and then I spend the next 10 minutes shitting on him

01:03:58He is good hunter is a very very good basketball player that will give you like 20 and 10 basically every single night

01:04:04I think you know controversial opinion the team that's going to be one of the top two teams entering the season

01:04:10I think it's going to be good

01:04:10But it needs to be said because I was I was not high on Kansas last year and they were very highly thought of going

01:04:15Into the season last year. I think I'm gonna be high on Kansas this year because I think last year

01:04:20Timberlake who we mentioned earlier and Furphy and some of these other guys bring it they're bringing in didn't materialize

01:04:27They way they wanted them to and I think this year you're bringing in more known

01:04:31Commodities one like AJ store has been around college basketball a little bit. You kind of know what you're getting with him

01:04:37Zeke Mayo conference player of the year

01:04:40and

01:04:41Rylan Griffin fun a Final Four team had monster games in the NCAA tournament. I think

01:04:46You know you need if all three of those guys hit they're the best team in the country

01:04:49No question about it

01:04:50I think if all three of those guys are as good as as they

01:04:53Could put if they all hit their ceiling Kansas is the best team in the country

01:04:57um, I think they really need like one of them to be to one of them to hit their ceiling for them to be

01:05:03Like one seed good, so I'm very high on Kansas, but also the big 12 is gonna be yeah

01:05:08I can be grinder. I'm super excited for the season obviously

01:05:11I hate we hate on the the transfer portal all the time

01:05:14But the one thing the transfer portal did is allowed us to have these

01:05:18Recognizable names all meet up at places like Kansas, Alabama UConn's coming off for a three

01:05:24Yeah, so there's a lot of hypes around Baylor as a team

01:05:27People are gonna turn on Baylor basketball games and be like how do I know this kid and you're gonna see Norch at Omir who?

01:05:32Played in a Final Four with with Miami you're gonna see Jeremy Roach who played at Duke forever, and you're like oh, they're a Baylor

01:05:39I didn't realize that and Baylor. I think Baylor. They got a freshman kid who's gonna be a top five pick edge comb

01:05:45VJ edge comb I think is

01:05:47I don't know. I'm really good at like getting I'm really gonna do it

01:05:50I'm really good at like the 80% research

01:05:52and then I just can't get it to the finish line and then it just like lingers in my head, and I'm like I

01:05:58And then I really edge comb yeah, and then I watch a you know I hear about these kids

01:06:03And then I watch like three YouTube videos. Oh my god. They're very fucking good pretty fucking good

01:06:07Well VJ edge comb might be the best young player on the planet according to locked on Baylor. He's pretty nasty shit

01:06:13He's in that he's an he's nasty and with Roach and Omir who was kind of the he was never thought of as the best

01:06:20Player on that Miami team that went to the Final Four, but he was kind of the linchpin for him

01:06:24I think Baylor's gonna be really good Houston's gonna be

01:06:27Houston's become like in just a machine where it almost doesn't matter who's who's there like Kelvin Sampson figures out how to

01:06:34How to guard, but they got LJ Cryer's probably the best shooter in the country

01:06:39Yeah, big tolls gonna be big tolls gonna be fucking awesome. I'm very high on Kansas

01:06:43How you know how can you not be but uh I think the big 12 is wide open

01:06:48I think the big 10 we talked about that already is I?

01:06:51Don't know 10 teams can win it it feels like anybody could anybody can win that league

01:06:55The Big East is the only one that I think is is one team and then everybody else

01:07:00Because the SEC Bama is going to be the pick to win it the SEC has has

01:07:06Insane depth insane depth they the Auburn will be great, Tennessee, Tennessee

01:07:12Arkansas, Kentucky

01:07:14Texas A&M is going to be good Texas

01:07:17Mississippi State's not going to be bad. Texas is good now

01:07:20Yeah, just on down the line. It's the one thing that's been hard for me with these super conferences and all the coverage realignment is

01:07:29All right we said it earlier about BYU pick to finish ninth in the big 12 that

01:07:34The preseason polls are very confusing because it used to be like

01:07:39These conferences put out their polls

01:07:41Just look at like the top four to five teams

01:07:43Those are the teams you need to know and now you need to know every team because every team that the depth in these conferences

01:07:49Are crazy, it's just it's just it's it's nuts like the the SEC you could finish 11th in the SEC and be a sweet 16 team

01:07:58It's that deep this thing with the big 12, so

01:08:01Yeah, it's it's gonna the same with the big 10 like maybe Rutgers being picked to finish 15th by the blue ribbon

01:08:06maybe it's like more of a

01:08:08Nod to like how deep the big 10 is but the the big 10 doesn't have any teams at the top

01:08:12That's that's the confusing part for me

01:08:14But yeah, the big 10 is gonna be very good. Illinois is an interesting team, Illinois

01:08:19we were bouncing around teams about the

01:08:21We're talking about the big 10 and we were talking about like all the the different teams

01:08:25That could theoretically win the league

01:08:28We don't really talk about Illinois and then Illinois fans are reaching out to me

01:08:31They're like take a peep at our roster people are getting a little high on it, and I did but

01:08:35Illinois I I kind of dismissed them because

01:08:38They lost like everybody they lost like everybody from last year

01:08:42but no, Illinois, Illinois's got a

01:08:45Illinois's got some pieces. They hit the transfer portal. They hit the recruiting and

01:08:49They'll be alright, too. So I'm fired up for the season. We gotta get some real basketball here, though. I

01:08:54Don't know what else um

01:08:56Sturgill Simpson, I guess shout out to him. That's my last thing. I was doing a concert in Kentucky

01:09:00Or no, he's doing a concert in Arkansas and he talked shit about

01:09:03Kentucky

01:09:04Coming for that ass or something. It was very funny. I saw that clip and it cracked me up

01:09:08So I a Kentucky he was pouring fuel on the Kentucky Arkansas fire

01:09:12He said a Mark Pope's not fucking around or something. He said that on stage at Arkansas, you know, you know Sturgill Simpson

01:09:18Just a singer. Yeah. Yeah, he's a

01:09:20he's big in the

01:09:22I'd say he's big in Kentucky in Arkansas like those. He's big in a stir. Yeah

01:09:27He's a cut. He's from Kentucky. He's he's one of my favorite

01:09:30Musicians, but I did I got tagged in the clip a few times

01:09:33But he was he was doing a concert in Kentucky and he heard I keep fucking that up

01:09:37He was doing a concert in Arkansas

01:09:39And he was just basically like now that we got Calipari out of there and he's with you all we're coming for that ass

01:09:44Oh, I love this or something

01:09:46That'll be fun kind of came out of nowhere. Call me by surprise

01:09:50All right, we should have a preseason poll

01:09:53On Monday, I think I don't know that to be true, but I remember last year was mid-october

01:09:58It's always a Monday in mid-october and you know, I'm looking at my calendar

01:10:02I'm like, yeah this this coming Monday feels like a good as good a time as Indy as I need to drop the preseason pool

01:10:08so

01:10:09Hopefully we have that for next week. Hopefully the the NBA starts. I believe the 22nd October 22nd

01:10:15We need to get that thing going too. I need I need some real basketball my life

01:10:19So by this time next week, we will have some scrimmages some exhibition some preseason polls. There'll be some more stuff to talk about

01:10:26So there will be that but somehow I just know we'll talk about Bronte and conference realignment and then I know I just know

01:10:33We'll find a way

01:10:34Anything else you got anything else? No, you're watching this. Uh, you watching this Netflix thing the 35

01:10:40No, I have I've seen people talk about you've been into it. Mm-hmm

01:10:44No too much ball on that was that was yeah, that was that there's a review

01:10:50No, I was I was curious cuz uh, I don't think I'm going to watch it and I'm curious your thoughts on like

01:10:57Stuff content like that. Does that interest you at all? Not at all. No, I'm why is that?

01:11:02I don't know I cuz I'm the same way

01:11:04I just want to hear you say cuz I want to I wonder if we were aligned in that I'm more

01:11:07I'm definitely obviously live sports talk sports and then

01:11:11Historical sports not necessarily like

01:11:14Yeah reenactment

01:11:17Not necessarily like the the documentary of the season that happened six months ago. Yeah, you don't need oh, you're I'm sorry

01:11:24I was totally lost on that starting five. No, I haven't seen it. People have been talking about this a lot, though

01:11:28This is the the clips from Anthony Edwards came out. Oh, yeah. This was cool. No, I don't know

01:11:33I'm not necessarily so the idea is that Netflix struck gold with the formula one thing. Mm-hmm the the

01:11:40You remember like all of a sudden like three years ago

01:11:43Everybody and their mother was like, I think I love formula one

01:11:46I'm a Red Bull guy and you're like, what are you talking about, dude?

01:11:48You're like, dude, why are you like you're meeting friends?

01:11:51You haven't seen in a little while and they're like wearing like Red Bull shirts with Red Bull logos and their Red Bull racing hats

01:11:55You know, what the fuck are you doing? One? I'm an f1 guy. You know that it's gonna be um, cuz everybody watched

01:12:01Drive to Survive, which I watched and I thought it was awesome, too. And I

01:12:05You know, I

01:12:07Understand how it happened, but the Netflix it keeps going to that

01:12:09Well, and they did it with like golf they've done it with tennis and I think they're doing it with the NBA now

01:12:13And I think what made what made Drive to Survive work for me is that I didn't know anything

01:12:19I don't know dick about formula one. Mm-hmm

01:12:22And it was fascinating to like learn about something and I think what makes this one a tough watch for me

01:12:28Or like I haven't watched yet

01:12:30But why I'm not going to watch it is that I don't really feel like I need to know more about

01:12:34These basketball players. I watch all the time

01:12:36You already know them and also my thing with these types of things is this it'll be coming out the NBA starts in 11 days

01:12:43Like we get a whole nother NBA season that we're gonna be paying attention to what's going on

01:12:47Then if starting five followed them around and produced an episode a week during the season, that'd be cool to see

01:12:53Yeah, I find I'm the documentaries I'm interested in are about topics. I'm not interested in which is which is a

01:13:01Sort of a paradox, but it makes total sense in my mind

01:13:04Like if I feel like I know a lot about something I don't want to watch a documentary about it

01:13:08Same with uh, when the last dance came out

01:13:11I wasn't like a hater

01:13:12but I was when I was what everyone was losing their minds because it was Kobe we didn't really have anything to watch and

01:13:16I was watching I was like

01:13:18It's alright. I mean, it's like a fun nostalgia play

01:13:21But like I don't I would I would much rather watch like a fucking documentary about like a banana harvester

01:13:27And

01:13:29Like Indonesia or something, you know what I mean?

01:13:32Yeah, I would I would cuz I'm like, I don't even know that this I didn't know that these people existed

01:13:36I didn't know that this was out there

01:13:37I don't need a documentary on like the most famous team of all time that like I lived through

01:13:41I want to watch something on like some shit that I don't even know

01:13:45Holy shit, dude. I didn't know that there were fucking like polar bear hunters that were like out there

01:13:50Shit like that. That's what I find fascinating. I did see auntie Edwards did give a good clip though

01:13:55I saw one where he just had played Jason Tatum. He said best player in the league my ass. Oh

01:14:00Drop it my ass. Oh

01:14:03He hit him with the my ass. That's a good. That's a good. My ass is a good

01:14:07Yeah, I'm gonna bring that back say something and then just say my my ass

01:14:11It's like it's like the cousin of just say not you

01:14:16Danny Hurley should have dropped a mice my ninth in the country my ass cooler way to be like you're pretty cool not

01:14:22Which is obviously lame, but if you said yeah, Tate, I think this this podcast went well my ass

01:14:31Come my ass

01:14:33Is he having baby mama issues? Yeah, I don't I don't know what to do in that situation, but

01:14:40He's a dick. He wants a paternity test to make sure that the baby is his before

01:14:46hmm, so

01:14:47He's petition, all right, um, oh last thing I was last basketball thought I had a quiet learners gonna retire he's done he's

01:14:55Scoop, I just wanted to scoop not a scoop just like as I'm trying to like pay attention to what's going on in the preseason

01:15:01The only things the two stories that keep coming out of the NBA to me are

01:15:05brawny James

01:15:07obviously number one number number two is that Kawhi Leonard like

01:15:12Has not I don't know if he's been in the facility like he's just like

01:15:16He has not practiced there

01:15:19You're seeing these reports that are like it the Clippers are unsure if he's gonna start the season and the season open

01:15:25I'm like, yeah, no fucking shit, dude

01:15:27Kawhi was on the Olympic team as we know. Yeah, he's in the team photo. He remember he will be in that team photo forever

01:15:33Yeah, we'll put a load of this team was

01:15:37And he couldn't play cuz his knees weren't right for the Olympics and now they're still not right and they're they're never going to be

01:15:42Right. He's got chronic knee problems and Paul George isn't there anymore the Clippers

01:15:46I don't know what the the over-under wind total on the Clippers is but I it could be like one and a half and I

01:15:51Feel like I'd take the under it feels like the Clippers are just like bottoming out. They just need to

01:15:55Hit the pan like it's it's it's it's it's bad scenes and Clippers and they're open in the new arena right now

01:16:01Mm-hmm

01:16:01Like this is supposed to be a fun time of James hard time to be a Clippers fan and James Harden said they're gonna play

01:16:06A lot of James Harden bald issue. Yeah, they're playing a lot of James Harden. But did you see his quote?

01:16:10It was one of the best he's like a lot of people said that James Harden

01:16:14You can't win with him playing like that, but y'all see Luka take him to the finals

01:16:19So now they're going back to James Harden Harden ball. Yeah, James Harden invented one-on-one

01:16:26Kawai so one of the courts I saw from Kawhi he was asked

01:16:30Like it he was basically asked I could do any of these young guys impress you. I'm paraphrase. I wish I could find it

01:16:36I wish I wasn't lazy as fuck and would have actually pulled the quote

01:16:40But they asked him, uh, do any of these young guys?

01:16:45Stand out to you and he's like no

01:16:50They're like has anybody stood out to you watching watching Clippers practice and he's like not really he said nobody stood out to me

01:16:57So far nobody stood out to me so far

01:16:59It's like such a knob

01:17:00It's such like an easy layup to just be like, yeah, you know

01:17:02Like if some of these young guys are coming along and he's just like no, not really

01:17:06Honestly, I just want to get the fuck out of here and never play basketball again

01:17:09Alright, that's the show. We'll be back next week. We're gonna move the two a week once once the season gets going in November

01:17:18But yeah for now I need some I need some polls I need some I need some I need some fucking data to go

01:17:24off dude, I need some I need some fucking shit to

01:17:28To latch on to and and we're very close. We're very very close. All right, everybody. Enjoy the weekend big college football weekend

01:17:36Enjoy that and we'll see you. We'll see you next week

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