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The Jeremy Kyle Show (16 March 2018)
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00:10On today's show...
00:13Who's Charlie and why are you here?
00:15Charlie used to be my best friend.
00:17She thinks I'm lying about being pregnant and...
00:23I've got the proof!
00:24Yeah, but you can print it off the internet!
00:26What, with my name on it? Clearly not!
00:29You've lied six times!
00:31Who's Charlie?
00:32It's Charlie!
00:33It's got a name on it!
00:35All the time when I see you tell her,
00:37Becky's done this, Becky's done that...
00:39We're mates now!
00:40What's it got to do with you anyway?
00:42Oi, go away!
00:48I told him I'd gone into labour without a child.
00:50He stayed in bed and said, sort the kids out yourself.
00:54I asked for some clothes the other day, where have they gone?
00:56You've got another expense coming, haven't you?
00:59Are you going to tell her what it is?
01:09I can't breathe!
01:11I've offered to pay for the stuff, I said I would drive and buy the stuff.
01:14You're like, no, I want the money, I'm like, I will buy the stuff and bring it,
01:17I know it's going to spend on kids.
01:19You've got to understand that when you get on the train,
01:21you've got to buy another car.
01:23With your new burden, your new baby.
01:24It's damn hard for this girl.
01:48Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show
01:50My first guest today, you might just recognize from a previous encounter. Take a look at this
01:56She's going out with the bloke she doesn't want to share a bed with I think she should be going out with him
01:59So your thing is have your own room. No jump into bed with me and my boyfriend
02:04Why would you allow that to happen? I didn't I used to fall asleep fast the bit I don't get about you is you are
02:10Absolutely proud to announce that now he's with her and since he's been with her you've had sex with him ten times
02:17Yeah
02:19He's not sleeping with Chelsea. How do you know that from day one when he used to come to man?
02:23We were sleeping together Becky. He was texting me saying that he wants to be with me
02:26He wants to be families and he was saying that he regrets getting with you and your relationship wrecker. You're loving this, aren't you?
02:38You have an argument with Becky just go around to her don't you and vice versa, you know, she loves you still don't you?
02:43What's that for? I want to talk to her with a tenfold bash Paul
02:48If you are over him stop sleeping with him stop contact him and raise the other cheek you get on with your girlfriend
02:54Watch over your shoulder your mate might try on with her again. You two that way you three that way
03:01So as you can see Becky and Chelsea were both arguing over the same man and it even came out that they all shared the
03:07Same bed. However, check this today Becky and Chelsea are back on this show having sorted out the differences and here to confront their ex-best
03:14Mate Charlie first up is Becky who says that Charlie has spread malicious lies about her and has even accused her of having sex with her
03:20Boyfriend Becky is back on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
03:32Last time you were a you and Chelsea were at loggerheads, but now your mates. Yeah, why who's Charlie and why are you here?
03:38I'm confused Charlie used to be my best friend, right? Why is she then?
03:42She thinks I'm lying about being pregnant
03:47I didn't lie Charlie
03:52I've got the proof. Yeah, but you could print off the internet. Well with my name on it. Yeah, Charlie's holding my back clearly not
04:10General
04:13Anyway because she's lied in the past about being pregnant and she's like my partner now
04:20My partner Nathan, well, I got a statement from that you've not slept with Nathan
04:26She made it to me on the phone and then when I asked on Facebook
04:29She denied it Nathan says I slept with Becky last year when me and Charlie were on a break
04:33I never slept with me. We only did it once we were even considering getting into a relationship
04:37But she ended up getting up getting with someone else. She needs to stop lying about being pregnant
04:41I don't think she is but if she is pregnant
04:42I would want a DNA test because I would hope it's not mine
04:45Chelsea and Becky share men and sleep with the same person. They're vile lowlife scum
05:01What's he gonna do with you anyway
05:04Why did you come on until I said you could come on go away
05:11Why
05:14Why is she so against you because you had sex with her boyfriend, why did you have sex with her boyfriend?
05:17I never had sex. Well, he says you did. I never we see the father of your baby. No, so you don't have sex with him
05:23I didn't have sex with Nathan
05:25We slept in the same room and he slept on the sofa. I slept in the bed. Did anything happen at all?
05:30Nothing happened. He came for a takeaway and a drink. What?
05:33He came to buy his take. Oh, he came and a drink away
05:36Charlie's a hypocrite. She's always tried to ruin my life and my past relationships
05:41She say she's a shoplifter. It's getting better this she did used to shoplift
05:47Shut up shoplifter
05:52She's accused me of not being pregnant when I've got the proof
05:55She's accused me of sleeping with Nathan when I've not slept with Nathan. Do you think she's jealous of you?
05:59That's what you think, isn't it? I think I think she steals from shops petty steals
06:04I think she steals from shops petty stuff like energy drinks when she's knackered
06:10It used Robin from a bank when he got no money and it used to be just a pound energy drinks
06:15What it used to be just pound energy drinks that she found on a woman is about to make a debut on the Jeremy
06:21Kyle show accused of stealing energy drinks worth a pound Charlie's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
06:34That's why I make them heavy
06:37What's the matter with you why are you so angry with her talk to me because she's lied about pregnant in the past
06:42Well, have you Jimmy?
06:43Yeah, she has because when I found out I was pregnant and last year when I lost it
06:47She said I said she was pregnant there two weeks later. She said she lost it. Did you lie Charlie?
06:52That's my past. Why'd you hold my past against me?
06:55Having the past I hold my hand up I've lied about a few things in the past you say and I quote
07:00She's always lying. She sent a scam picture to me with a different name on it to hers
07:03It's disgusting. Some people can't even have kids. She needs to wise up, right?
07:08Answer that you're just grinning in name. It's not fake Charlie. When you sent me the photo I couldn't see
07:15Why does it matter what you think? Anyway, you're with Nathan. Why don't you butt out of our business?
07:25Why would I believe it now it said my name at the top of it Charlie
07:29Men that I've had our dinners
07:34I've had who's Chelsea and the one who always thinks she's people's mates when she falls out with Becky
07:40She comes to fault if she comes she's that with Nathan
07:56You see that she's lying if it looks at the Sims to me like she was Charlie that's clearly
08:04Like people do
08:16Well, she's lied in the past why have you suddenly become the moral stance of everything then well, why does it matter?
08:23Because it's just young stupid immature girls bitching isn't it? Because all you do is sleep with the same men and get jealous
08:29That's what this is about. Isn't it? No
08:31I'm not jealous. I'm not bullying her. You'll come right before Christmas
08:36You came to me in town and I can even get my mom to make this that you was slugging air off her Becky
08:40This Becky who's Angie and my boyfriend's stepmom, which boyfriend Nathan
08:49She's on the Jeremy Kyle show as well
09:01I'm not lying. Oh, who are you? I'm a friend
09:11Stepmum, yeah, it's Nathan stepmum. He slept with her knife and Anna. Yeah
09:21She's disgusting dirty, you wouldn't know the father is
09:26What you would know the father my father's my baby's Josh and I know
09:30Because you don't
09:34We thought the way to deal with this was to discover whether in fact she's a habitual liar or is pregnant
09:39So we sent her for a scan just so you're aware. Take a look at this
09:43We did interestingly a gender scan
09:47Not only is she pregnant, but I'm gonna tell you something else as well. You don't know this guess what?
09:53What do you think you're having a boy you are having a boy
09:59I
10:10Absolutely know why you don't like her because she had sex with your boyfriend doesn't make you feel very good
10:14But you were on a break weren't you?
10:17Now Kanye's there. Well, I said no. No, she's pregnant with a boy love. So stop making up lies
10:30I don't want nothing to do
10:33Who's the father Josh? She's made mistakes. I'm sure you have I'm a busy man
10:37Why don't you just go and get on with your life and let them get on with theirs if you can't be civil
10:50No, never the train should meet what a perfect ending you took it that way you took it that way
10:53I
10:58Told him I'd gone into labor with our child. We stayed in bed and said sort the kids out yourself
11:04I asked for some clothes over there where they're gone. You've got another expense coming in tell her what it is
11:23Oh
11:32It's all kicking off security
11:40This test is your liar love you this is about your children
11:53Oh
12:01Let's to put up with this
12:08Our DNA doubts ruining your relationship is an ex refusing to accept paternity
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12:41As it's time for an ex no-good Jamie to step up and be a father their children
12:46She says since they split two years ago. He's forgotten all of his responsibilities
12:50He hasn't seen his kids. He hasn't paid for his kids and she says to be honest
12:55He doesn't even seem to care about them
12:57she says this entire situation has been made worse by the fact that Jamie's new girlfriend Courtney is sticking her nose in where it's not
13:03wanted and
13:04Distracting him from being a father
13:06She says this is Jamie's last chance to be a dad to their kids
13:09Because they need to have him in their life big day for this lady brave as well
13:14Natasha's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
13:20I
13:24Have him one of those days where people looking at me in a very strange way Natasha welcome to the show ex-partner to Jamie together
13:30Six years. Why are you here, sweetheart? I'm here for my kids. How many kids three? How old one two and four?
13:36How long were you with him for six years? Did you look did you how did it finish? What what happened?
13:41Why are we I I spoke with him because it was I was
13:44Texting on Facebook and I told him it was over. They're not just say to about the kitchen door and go
13:49I don't want to be with you anymore. No
13:52In a car whilst these daughters basically dying in hospital she had joined us
13:58Say it's a poor excuse for a dad. He's never stepped up. He's never been a father always excuses the most he's bought his nappies
14:05Yeah, so how long have you been away because he's this guy just to give you an idea has stopped paying his CSA
14:11Why I don't know it stopped his benefits. He stopped everything this guy's got a car
14:16Yeah, tell them this to just slow down tell them this story this is disgusting
14:21He's got a bar of being in W doesn't matter about what car but this guy lives four miles away
14:27Refuses to drive. She has to walk or take the bus take the kids see him
14:31And you go what?
14:33Then he's operating on and wants me to walk with I told him I'd gone into labor with our child
14:37He stayed in bed and said sort the kids out yourself
14:40How
14:42Is it how is it for you? It's hard right? It's really hard you're bringing them up on your own
14:47Yeah, no financial support from this guy who rang this show sweet. It was me
14:52I'm gonna tell you something because a lot of people come out here
14:55And they're very confident and the audience will see all sorts of people
14:57I really really respect you for what you do with your kids and the fact that you're here. He's scared
15:02What you'd have to be nice?
15:04Well, I want him to come and explain to me why he doesn't do more
15:07I don't care if he hates you know one of the issues is is that you think the new girlfriends in his ear
15:11Yeah, this is Courtney. She's been in a relationship with Jamie for a year and three months
15:16You seem to think that that she's sort of a bit full of herself is she wearing the trousers yeah?
15:21She is definitely she sent you some messages didn't she yeah, she called me a dirty little rat
15:27See this message
15:29Listen you need to stop messing Jamie about your dirty little rat you say hasn't bothered with the kids for a month yet
15:33You stop them seeing him. Are you actually something or something else grow up and start acting your age really abusive
15:39Yep, Courtney's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
15:48Why are you sending over our messages either the other thing you are what do you keep me nose out of it?
15:57She's the one getting people to me got three kids. She's given her jack nothing in terms of money
16:02She blocks him all the time blocks him all the time. Why isn't he defending and paying for his children well?
16:08He's paid from now. Oh now
16:10Blimey my darling with him
16:13No, they didn't I have not had a penny yet
16:16They what did you just do sir?
16:18Because you're 20. Yeah, you've got his heart. I mean you're gonna be the woman that changes him, right?
16:22I never said I was do you not think that a man should morally pay for a child?
16:26Yes, then why is it only just now? Why did he stop making CSA payments gone out me out?
16:32Honestly, I don't know myself
16:35What's this woman done wrong?
16:37Bringing up three young kids. I know that it's got medical problems and your backside of a boyfriend won't even drive his car to see her
16:45That's not to do with me that but well, hold on a minute. You told my team repeatedly. He's tried tell me Courtney
16:50I'll give you the pride. He's tried messaging, but obviously being blocked. He's tried messing on Facebook being blocked again
16:55He's had to get his mom to message and why have you blocked him if you want his help talk?
16:58I bought him because he was arguing me and calling me everything under the Sun
17:01I said to him I will talk to his mum
17:03But I will not talk to him the way he's talked to me
17:05You say that your G you think that she's jealous. She won't let you meet the kids
17:09No, you shouldn't damn well meet the kids at the moment. The father should be saying I'm in a relationship with you
17:13I'm gonna go and be a dad to those kids get their confidence get some regularity in their lives and then you can be involved
17:26I don't meet the kids
17:28Why is that why isn't Jamie on the bus to get a youngest child though with respect I did I
17:33Bought the appointment
17:34He said he was at work and he couldn't get it off and then I tried again a few weeks ago
17:38I said I need your signature for this farm and it's still I've done it. It's still I'm come down to get it
17:41I think you basically both got a bit of a buff just no
17:45I think you've got a wuss stuck in the middle who hasn't got the balls to stand up and be
17:48Accountable
17:53I'm not decrying that you love Jamie and you think he's great. That's what happens in relationships
17:58But as a woman as a woman spare a thought for this lady shouldn't cheat on him their relationship ended
18:04She's bringing up three kids under five
18:07Medical issues very little money that would make it very hard
18:10Not only would it make it very hard it would make it very bitter when you your ex is
18:14Galavanting around with his new with his new girlfriend in his car
18:16and I actually quite like this lady because you came out and I
18:19Go by eyes and face and I think that's all resonated with you that I mean
18:23This isn't this woman isn't sitting here calling you every name under the Sun this woman sitting here saying
18:28I'm just struggling and even now I'm on this show
18:31I don't want to be on this show, but I'm here because I'm trying to do what's right by my kids
18:34Yeah, Jamie get out here now
18:44You
18:50Understand their reaction I don't some reaction, but sorry, I think you are lying there. I've been there from day one
18:55You were pregnant with the kids. I tried to beat scans. You won't let me go
18:59You've got security to move me out of the hospital. You took your dad in to give birth
19:02You won't let me there every time
19:07I have provided for the kids you I said to you
19:10I won't give you money right because you know, I'm for stealing you stole money from scratch card
19:14You stole money from kids that was a pass. Yeah, I've messaged you plenty of times
19:17I said I will buy the stuff for the kids. I said what nappies I need. I'll come by some nappies
19:21Like no, they've got plenty nappies. All right, what food? I'll buy him some food. I'll buy some gas and electric
19:25It's like no, I don't need it
19:29Messages I can prove it. I have said I asked for some clothes over there where they're gone
19:33I said I am being working a minute. I said
19:36You can afford a Mercedes car, but which I'm not running a minute. I'm not running. It's not running
19:41You were you making that go around driving about with it. I thought I've got another expense coming. I'm new
19:47Don't tell her what it is. I've got a baby. Don't worry, but I know I'm gonna be there every step of way
19:55Thank Thank You mate, I like the fact Jamie you took what's not your problem
20:00And it's it I feel sorry for the girl, but a fair play to me took a walk straight
20:06A fair play to you Jay. Do you know what I thought you're gonna go in the opposite direction
20:11You stood up without even being asked this and this is horrible. She's still
20:17Attached attached listen, it's horrible. Why are you getting upset about it?
20:29Given the chance to be there for this kid. I've tried every step of way
20:32I've been so
20:34So you told me I ain't trying to go. Did you get?
20:38Christmas because you bought me after I messaged you you bought me. I got rid of this blocking rubbish
20:42So I've messaged your grandma your grandma starts. I miss you, Shirley
20:49I've been to your house
20:51You know, I'm going to school run, you know, I don't get how many times you go around when she wasn't it
20:55Come on, Jay. Listen, I've been three times a week
20:58I respect you for the fact that you got out of each year and you came after let's just nail this as it is
21:02right this girl
21:04With medical problems and three young kids and no money and probably although she doesn't want to admit it
21:10Probably feelings for the father of a kid sees you gallivanting off in the distance in your new car with a new bird now
21:15You've got a new baby. She's struggling. I like the fact you walk but come on mate. You could have done
21:21The money that she doesn't want right that you could put that in an account whatever it is
21:25To do that. Look at her. I am doing this. Look at that. I've offered to pay for stuff
21:32I said I would rather buy stuff. I don't know. I want the money. I'm like, I will buy the stuff and bring it
21:36I know it's gonna spend on kids. You said no. No, you don't want to
21:40not properly
21:43And that's not his fault by the way before everybody at home go no no, but they everybody go over it's not his fault
21:49but I'm
21:51You could have done a little bit more. But then if he's off
21:54Come on here's the thing that really annoys me doing this show, right? So you guys have got kids, right?
21:59It's infantile to listen to you saying I blocked him. He can't a message to me. I blocked it. That's ridiculous
22:05You mean what if just out of it? I'm sorry to be boring. What if one of the kids got sick?
22:09What if one of the kids had an accident?
22:10Well, you couldn't get all of the other parent to say they're in the hospital or they'll because I'm being so mature
22:15I block them as parents. However difficult it is for you to accept that. It's over
22:19Okay, however much you're moving on with your life. Surely the common ground is look
22:24In terms of decency for those kids. We need to both have each other's mobiles
22:28We need to make the rule that it's only about the kids that we can burst
22:31And you need to accept his money and you need to keep banging away until she actually gives you that money
22:37That is what you need to do. Come on
22:47Can we get
22:50Asking about the kids not the blocking to ask about kids
22:53How can you get a message on Facebook over there that's it. Can you let me know how it gets?
22:56I love you guys. Yeah, I love it. Missus. Of course. I miss him
23:00I try mediation eight times. You didn't stick with them
23:05He has got access right so there's no issues, right?
23:08So what we've got here is the logistical nightmare because of whatever reason you two haven't made this happen
23:13That's where we come in. That's what we do. I did you message after the performance
23:17Why do you say why have you missed your kid from so when you have told me about Thomas?
23:30If you watch this back or your three kids watch this back they began for God's sake
23:33Can you bang their heads together? Do you want to be a father to him to be a father to his kids?
23:38Do you however hard except that he's now with somebody else who by the way, I do not think he's a bad person at all
23:44They've decided out the kids. She hasn't said she wants to muscle in
23:47She's happy to keep out of it and respect to her
23:49What you've got to understand is when you've got the feelings of I love this person still. Oh my god, it's heartbreaking
23:55People are inclined to be a little bit difficult with kids
23:58Sometimes I'm not saying that you are you've got to understand that when you gallivant off in your new car with a new bird
24:03New baby, this is damn hard for this girl. She's got three babies up every night
24:07And so all you can do is not mend a broken heart. What you can do is mend a brain by saying I'm gonna be consistent
24:12I'm gonna be reliable. I'm gonna pay my money. I'm gonna turn up. I'm gonna take whatever stuff you throw at me
24:17Yeah, and I'm gonna prove to you. I can be a good dad and that is where Graham and the after-care team come in
24:22Yeah, that's what I want to do. Can we do that?
24:32For Christ's sake I'll bang your heads together. Did you care about your kids?
24:34That's your man you can sort it we're back after the break don't go anywhere
24:39I'm just here for DNA results. Why were you cheating? Because Patrick showed me absolutely more attention was never interested. Is he the father? Yes
24:47the DNA test results show that Patrick
25:05Oh
25:14This test is your liar love
25:19This is about your children
25:35Leave that in scope for us to put up with this
25:42Do you think you're being lied to do you have evidence to prove it like home videos
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26:17My next guest today Patrick is here to find out if he's the father to his wife Claire's youngest child now according to Patrick
26:22Claire is nothing but a lying cheat who was unfaithful without their entire relationship and fell pregnant just after she left him for another man
26:29He says she soon came crawling back
26:32But the relationship broke down and now he needs to know the truth so that he can get rid of her once and for all
26:36He knows what he wants Patrick's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
26:50Strong words on they why is she so revolting? Well, I can't hear you to be honest. She
26:57I what did you say?
27:01She left me well, what does that make? Well, maybe she didn't like you very much
27:06There's not
27:09Now you're 47, it's quite young in it, that's great. Yeah, and she's 29
27:14Not that we're getting into a debate about an 18 year age difference
27:22Patrick come on wake up smell the coffee. How long were you married to her?
27:27You have an older child, there's no problem with that
27:30But this is about the youngest child and your doubts as to whether that child is yours
27:35Why well, it doesn't look like me, but let's talk about the reasons
27:39You said she cheated on you so many times you lost count. Did she admit that to you?
27:44Well, she said to him. I fear of course you said it was a toxic relationship
27:50Why would that be because you were drunk the whole time? No, were you drunk the whole time sometimes?
27:57I like a drink. You like a drink. Do you work?
28:00I haven't had a heart condition in the last couple of years. You've got a heart condition so you can't work
28:05So you think the best way to deal with a heart condition?
28:08Is indeed to drink every day. No, it's not the best way. No, it's not the best way. No, I imagine
28:14Anyway, she was out busy. She was too busy
28:17Cheating to answer a phone so you'd be in the pub worrying about your missus
28:21Not that you were at home saying if she was all right because you have a drink because despite the heart anyway
28:25And and she doesn't answer it she's a compulsive liar. She once told me she was at a rave. Yeah
28:32But she was that she'd a hotel with another man
28:35Most people say I've gone to a hotel for a drink. Not that I'm not in a rave
28:37Either way, I tried to be the best father I could I've given us the money
28:41Yes
28:42Well, that's immensely generous of you, isn't it?
28:46Is it true that she had an affair and didn't come home for four months?
28:50Yes, she moved out
28:51Four months. Did she take the kid with her? Yeah
28:55Difficult was that never seen a month for four months and then when she came back she was pregnant and you know
29:00Then she came back. We stayed together for
29:03The last year and she says you're a joke. She says that you are the most horrible
29:10abusive
29:11controlling man a
29:14Useless father you've contributed nothing and she actually said I'm prepared to come on the Jeremy Kyle show and admit I did cheat
29:22Because actually I'd rather have been anywhere the next to that lowlife the doctor like I'm shit what the doctor like
29:31Well, I think this is gonna go well then Claire's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
29:44Shut up
29:46I'm just here for the DNA results. All you wanted was DNA social work have offered you DNA
29:51So, why did you not take it up with them? There was no need to do
29:56Why are you swearing at her
30:01You are a cheat my darling if I'm balancing this out why why were you cheating?
30:06Because Patrick showed me absolutely no attention and was never interested
30:09Then why don't you pick your child up maintain your dignity walk away and leave him before you decided to put it around amongst other
30:16men
30:21Don't you think that by going and having an affair you lose somewhat of the moral high ground
30:26To me it was a moral high ground
30:29But we were only together for four months
30:31We split up for four months so my team that I was the person who put a roof over our heads in our marriage
30:36I was the one who kept every day clearing up the mess because all he did was get drunk
30:41Come on, mate. You've said nothing. I don't get drunk every day Patrick
30:45Our house I got most days and a few for paint talk to each
31:01Well, it means maybe you could do something more constructive with your time rather than being in the boozer
31:05Maybe you could pay your kids and your missus
31:08You
31:13Just sit in there looking like it's the most shocking thing you've ever heard you were a useless father and a useless husband
31:19But that doesn't justify you sleeping with Tom Dick and Harry does it it doesn't justify me
31:25Relationship he was a useless dad what no good at all
31:29Abed drug, what a pop
31:31Jeremy I brought my kid up
31:33Why are you refusing to sign divorce papers when you patently think she's a cheating lying whatever I'm not refusing to sign divorce papers
31:40You told me there was no point in going for a divorce because you wouldn't sign the papers
31:44Not a few months ago. No. Well, how does that make you?
31:52Order in place with social work that you are not allowed to see the children
31:55Why is that because you're permanently drunk the whole time? Why social services not allowing you?
32:00Okay, we're not allowed to go into but think about that. You're not allowed to see your kids
32:04You're not the Archangel Gabriel, and I don't
32:07I'm not
32:15So, why are you here you refuse to divorce her to get my DNA results, that's it. Is he the father? Yes
32:22You're in debt. Aren't you because of him? Yes. No, yeah
32:25They're closing
32:27Billy hi. Okay. What are you in?
32:31Credit cards. Yeah, it's nothing to do with me. All right. Okay, you ate each other. Don't you? Yep
32:36You ate her
32:37Definitely, but you're not great. How many times did you cheat on him three?
32:43at least
32:44Three different men. Yes, but I mean
32:48Was it around the time you conceived this baby? No
32:51So you're so matter-of-fact about it
32:54because I'm
32:56I'm not going to start here and make myself look out to be an angel because an angel is something I am not yes
33:01I cheated three times. Well, it was holding down a job whilst looking after children. I don't have a social life
33:06He wasn't interested in me
33:07You used to go to a pub dude
33:09They're denied this one from half ten every morning until six o'clock every night then look after our child while I what?
33:16You allow a man who'd been drunk for eight hours to look after your kid anyway
33:26What the hell are you doing drinking when you've got kids to look after
33:29Because he only claimed to have four pints which I found out later on off the pub owner was a lot
33:34Is that when you were sleeping with a barman? No, that was a different pub
33:39That's his local. See what's even with it. I've never slept with a barman rush. We do the DNA results
33:45You're a hundred percent. Sure. He is the father hundreds. What about you? So he put dad not 50 50
33:5150 50 why?
33:53Doesn't look like me what doesn't look like me on my old display
33:57The DNA test results show that Patrick. How sure were you under you are the child's biological father?
34:03Are
34:11You going to sign these divorce papers and try and be a better father are you gonna spend your life in the in the pub?
34:16Just like a business. Anyway, sorry. I'm what I'm to use
34:20For drinking, which is why you're in the pub every single day. I wouldn't have an eye on Bruno. Okay
34:25Oh
34:30You can't go in the pub, you know, why don't you not go in the pub?
34:33Why don't you have an iron brew and take your kids down the park?
34:41We'll help you with the alcohol but you need to concentrate on your kids
34:44I think the most important thing is that you should sign these divorce papers and get this done. It's not right
34:48Is it you obviously don't want to be together and the kids don't need to see the arguments. That's what you need to consider
34:53That's what we'll talk to you about. Okay. All right, you were absolutely right. Give him a round of applause
35:09She told my team I received a message from Alex the horrible man saying dad was dead
35:14I
35:30Is getting worse yes, I need your help and I'm not leaving this stage till I get your help I
35:35Want my life back. Give me a chance to prove you wrong. I mean you give me a chance to prove you wrong
35:40I want to see I want me get
35:44I
35:46My name is Emma and I believe I'm your daughter
35:51This is my last chance. I've always thought about you get in contact
36:03Grandchild
36:06You saw this, okay, I promise you listen, it's all right. He wants to be a dad
36:12He wants to have a relationship with his child
36:17You will today go to me you are the child
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36:55Alex is here to cut all ties with his nightmare sister Katie. He says that she is nothing frankly
36:59But a pathetic lying attention seeker who gets a thrill from causing trouble
37:03But he says before he cuts her out of his life
37:05He wants to know why she would spread the vicious lie that he faked their father's death
37:12Alex says that he'll prove he did no such thing
37:14And the only reason she's saying this because she's jealous of him because he's the father of her daughter
37:18She's jealous of him because he's the father of her daughter
37:21Alex says that he'll prove he did no such thing
37:23And the reason she's saying this because she's jealous of his relationship with his dad these two are at loggerheads
37:27He says Katie is supposed to be the older sister, but she needs to grow up and be honest about what's going on in life
37:33This is a massive story Alex is on the Jeremy Carr show that way
37:43Genuinely don't understand this story welcome to the show. What the hell you're 23 your sister's 25. What's going on here?
37:49She gets frills basically from telling lies getting attention. There's thrills and there's lies, but
37:56Explain the whole father thing because I'm a little bit. I basically I'm on Facebook like most people go to work
38:03Does anybody talk to I'm turning into Basil Fawlty?
38:08But I don't want to be on Facebook well
38:11She basically does the same she'll tell lies put it all over Facebook your sister
38:15Yeah, why to try and make get attention all drawn on her right so you can talk about attention
38:20But there are lies and there are lies saying that you how do you fake some out? How can you fake it?
38:26He's alive. Yeah, he's alive and living so to him to say they should put on Facebook
38:32She told my team I received a message from Alex the horrible man saying dad was dead when
38:38Well, I don't know
38:40Did you text her no you said I'd never lie about my dad being dead cuz he's not dead. He's alive. She's sick
38:46She is sick. Why aren't you two cuz you used to be sick?
38:49I think he used to be close basically
38:51We was close when was in care up to the age of 14 where you bought together jointly in care
38:55And then she obviously went into live with back with my mom
38:59I'll come back a couple of days later, and then she just basically turned
39:04Lies after lies after lies your parents are both alive
39:08Do you have a relationship with both of your parents? I had a relationship with my mom until she was brainwashed by Katie
39:14So now you're close to your dad. Yeah, she's close to your mum
39:19She's close to your mum is she close to your dad she was but then obviously there's no you started your hassle
39:27What hassle?
39:29Telling me that he had died. All right, but the day you put on Facebook. I spoke to him
39:34Really? Yeah, he's not dead
39:38What I am living in a parallel universe, you know that if she asked me for his number the other day
39:45Why would he have a number?
39:47You tell me he's not no answer the phone is he?
39:53You say she made this ups attention-seeking it's always been like that. She's vying
39:59For both parents affection and love she wants to push you out
40:02She basically wants both parents to be loving her no one else no one else matters because she was in care
40:08Why are you here today pal?
40:10I don't want her in my life. I mean mother if she wants a relationship
40:15Right, so another successful day on the Jeremy Kyle show Katie's next give her a round of applause
40:28Message saying you were glad that you had sorted out
40:34Really
40:38Is this you
40:39No, this is you. No, it's him
40:43You got this. You are the biggest. I don't know what that says. What does that say in this world?
40:47I'm so glad I sorted dad's funeral out so you could not say your goodbye to me. Never loved you. I don't love you
40:52I never have done you can take me on the Jeremy Kyle show and when it proves that you're not my sister
40:57I can't wait to see your face. I've told you all this time
40:59You are not my sister now get that into your thick head and stop telling people I am
41:03Well, how could she not be my sister? We've got the same mother and father
41:05You have said all your life, I'm not your sister you send that no
41:11Why does it say Alex at the top?
41:14Go on the profile. I don't know what that means. I've checked on Facebook. It's so that's not you
41:19No, it's a fake profile. So it's a fake profile
41:22Maybe you said made that up yourself and set yourself to frame him because you're an attention seeker is what he said me attention seeker
41:28He has been
41:30All his life
41:32I'm an attention seeker. Yeah, you get up in the morning go to work go see my son come back
41:38Yeah, chill out for the evening get up again at four o'clock in the morning. What do you say?
41:42doing nothing
41:46So, why is it then you've gone wrong telling everyone you don't work anymore I don't work. All right
41:52That's what you've told people I work six o'clock in the morning until four o'clock in the afternoon
41:57Each other so much when you share the lion compulsive cheat she just cheats people into liking her
42:05You did tell our team though, didn't you if you sit down cuz I'm getting neck a you did tell my team that you've always
42:10Felt pushed out. Yep that trying to get your parents adjuration or acceptance is your number one priority in life
42:17So maybe you do see him as a threat. Maybe you want it all because you were put in care
42:23You want him out the way? That's what you suspect, isn't it?
42:26Yeah, that's what she wants. Let's not bring me that letter, please
42:30Your mum is Evelyn, isn't it?
42:32Yeah
42:33When Katie and Alex came out of care that came to live with me Katie left after two weeks at that time
42:37We were arguing didn't get on
42:39Alex stay with me for a good while longer. I don't have a relationship with him anymore
42:42I think he's a waste of space brainwashed, but I now have a brilliant relationship with my daughter brainwashed
42:47I think I'm gonna say the wrong thing about Evelyn
42:50Off you went to care and then when she managed to have you back
42:54She managed to split you two up again. Did she just taken sides?
42:58Good mother is that's just my opinion
43:00That's social services that kept me and put me into open door a mother who hasn't had their children with the grace to respect
43:06I would hope and pray would make the same effort when they did come back to her
43:09She did with a as with B. She patently isn't that service to leave the family home after two weeks guys
43:15Are you just fighting over attention here? That's your brother. You both went through the same terrible thing
43:24Used to be my shadow me all his life used to follow me around asking me for your help asking me for everything
43:30No, I didn't and then he said you got on really well as kids. Hey, we did and we've never got on
43:36Okay, right dad's not dead because he sent me a letter
43:44He says dear Alex and Katie I'm not dead no he didn't say that he said dear Katie
43:48I want you to know that I love you both, but this constant arguing needs to stop
43:53I understand that you both had a difficult upbringing
43:55But I want you to know that I always be here for the pair of you Katie
43:58All of this drama needs to stop so that we can all move on with our lives and be happy dad
44:04Why don't you stop fighting all of you and start understanding that families precious and time is precious and be carry on like this
44:12It's not gonna be any better than it was in all those years when you wanted to be together. That's the point, isn't it?
44:23You don't want anything to do with it. You don't need to do with your dad
44:25You just want to be with your mom
44:27Well, your dad wants something to do with him and he wants something to do with you
44:30That's up to my dad, but you look like a petulant child. Love. Why is my dad then gone and changed his number?
44:36I don't know
44:38I've got no
44:41Care you have a mom and a dad you have a mom and a dad you have a brother you have a sister, right?
44:46The fact is oh my god today is the end of it
44:50If my mother wants to follow her carry on I'll have a relationship with dad and your mom without her
44:58What you want but then I've had to go and move just to keep you out of my life
45:04Here's the interesting thing that I find quite sad the two of you were the only people
45:08Hello there you two were the only people there for each other as you grew up your parents were not there now your parents are
45:14There somehow there seems to be a problem between you two you to be you two should be as tight as anything
45:19But it's the lies everything coming out of her mouth
45:25So you accused Alex of sending that text message you didn't lie to a doctor he says that he wouldn't do that
45:30Is that right?
45:31So why does it come from his profile? Maybe you set it up? No, I don't know
45:36I've got no idea. We asked Alex. Did you send the message in question to Katie?
45:40How many people in the audience think this guy sent this message to his sister?
45:43Did
45:47You send the message in question to Katie he said no despite the fact it came from your message
45:51Why did you say no? Thank you. Of course. He was telling the truth
46:02Question was he complicit he said no your brother was telling the truth on both questions
46:06And
46:12This might sound really interesting or not brains to actually to be fair like it make life's very short mate
46:18If there is too much water under the bridge stop bitching at each other and go in opposite directions
46:22But you both have the right to love your parents separately. I guess he didn't do that
46:27Maybe you are an attention seeker. Maybe you just lost a little sheep
46:30You don't want a relationship with each other then stop bitching and going off
46:34Relationship with my mum without her involved that's fine. Well, that's another successful couple on the Jeremy Carr show you go that way you get
46:48Thanks for watching we'll see you very soon. Take care. Bye-bye for now
47:03I am judge and jury. You are perverting the course of justice
47:10The back of these elves, oh my god, look at that that is absolutely disintegrating
47:17So you sell drugs today for that money? How much is that?
47:25You used acid on some face you threw it in his face
47:29It was excruciating you have to pause as much time as you can, you know
47:33Oh, yeah, it'll be a lot more that would have said to me if that was your son. He died. What would you say?
47:39I'm sorry. I don't have to say then you're gonna have blood in your hands
47:42When you're out here you are on your own. It's the face. That's the point
47:59You