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00:00:00All right, welcome in crossover episode week one Patriots beat Patriots daily Alex Barth

00:00:07Taylor Kyle's Brian Hines, Mike Catholic with you.

00:00:10We made a joke when camp ended.

00:00:12We were saying, ah, you know, we don't know when we're going to do these crossover episodes,

00:00:15how often we'll do them during the season.

00:00:17And I think I made the joke.

00:00:18Well, we could do them after wins, but then we'd only do three or four.

00:00:22But here we are after.

00:00:23And by the way, that won't be the plan.

00:00:24They're going to be kind of intermittent.

00:00:26They'll be more regular than that, but we always planned to do one here.

00:00:29But hey, we get to do it after a win.

00:00:31So that's pretty cool.

00:00:32Certainly a lot to, to break down from that game, a lot to get into.

00:00:35I feel like week one is generally one of the more fun games to react to because you have

00:00:41all these questions that build over the really over the spring and over the summer.

00:00:46And then you project this one game is the answer to all those questions, which sometimes

00:00:50is the case.

00:00:51Sometimes it isn't.

00:00:52And obviously this off season, especially there were a ton of questions with the new

00:00:56coaching staff, new front office, all of that.

00:00:58So I guess my opening taken and we can start here, guys, just the reaction to the beginning

00:01:03of the Gerard Mayo era, what, what it looked like on the field from a coaching point of

00:01:09view.

00:01:10And I would say that the coaching staff passed their first test.

00:01:12Now, some of the stuff I'm going to say is a low bar to clear, but after one penalty

00:01:16on the opening kickoff, which you like roll your eyes and you're like, Oh boy, here we

00:01:19go again.

00:01:20I'm really clean operation.

00:01:23Guys got in and out of the huddle.

00:01:24They got the play calls in.

00:01:26You didn't seem to have too many procedural issues, anything, at least nothing that stuck

00:01:30out that you could see from the exterior.

00:01:32I'm sure they have things they want to clean up here or there, but it's not even at times

00:01:35this summer we saw they couldn't get lined up.

00:01:37They couldn't get substitutions done.

00:01:40You know, a ton of penalties and joint practices and preseason games, but if it felt like the

00:01:45whole operation itself went smoothly and I don't know, maybe I'm, I'm not giving them

00:01:51enough credit or I wasn't giving them enough credit going in, but Taylor, I feel like they,

00:01:56they definitely checked that box and that was encouraging for me to see.

00:01:59Yeah.

00:02:00The biggest thing that I wanted to see from them was that discipline and playing clean

00:02:03football.

00:02:04And I emphasize that, like, we know there's going to be issues.

00:02:07We didn't think the offense was going to be even close to perfect.

00:02:09I think we expected the defense to be good.

00:02:11The special teams we were hoping would be decent and ended up making an impact play,

00:02:16which was awesome.

00:02:17Jeremy Springer era starting off on a great foot.

00:02:19But I mentioned like the penalties, especially for the offense, like there were definitely

00:02:23some penalties that could get cleared up, but the offense had the very low false start,

00:02:27which honestly I didn't give him a lot of crap for because he came off the bench.

00:02:30The crowd was roaring by the time he got in there.

00:02:33So I was like, you know what, as long as it's mid drive too, wasn't it?

00:02:36Right.

00:02:37It was.

00:02:38Yeah.

00:02:39That's the worst mistake.

00:02:40Like you take that.

00:02:41Exactly.

00:02:42Then David Andrews, a legal man downfield where he kind of joked about it.

00:02:43I think he was kind of like, I didn't even realize I was downfield.

00:02:46And then there was one more, a member of the third offensive penalty.

00:02:50Um, sorry, I can't remember, but if anybody remembers, let me know.

00:02:55But the fact that you can't remember is kind of the point.

00:02:57It wasn't that much.

00:02:58Because that shoot those two penalties.

00:03:00I don't think I'll forget those for the rest of my life.

00:03:02So I don't think anybody will let me forget them for the rest of my life.

00:03:06Every time he does anything, I get tweets about it now.

00:03:08Yeah.

00:03:09So that was a little bit more under control.

00:03:11I thought the turnovers now, obviously they got lucky where Mondrey Stevenson fumbled

00:03:15almost had a crippling sense of deja vu from that.

00:03:18But Jacoby Berset making, you know, a not wise decision to try to chuck it up to Hunter

00:03:22Henry off his back foot, things you got to clean up for sure.

00:03:25And I'm sure we'll get into Jacoby Berset, but I think this was a great way to start

00:03:29off.

00:03:30Obviously they won plenty to clean up once again.

00:03:32But I really liked what I saw from them for the most part, especially from a discipline

00:03:36and clean football perspective.

00:03:37Brian, real quick, before we go to you as a good point, it was a delay, a game that

00:03:40the third penalty was a delay game that they was intentional on purpose, right?

00:03:44For the punt.

00:03:45So very, very clean game in that sense by the offense.

00:03:47Brian.

00:03:48I just thought Mayo had them ready to go like as a whole.

00:03:52And that's credit to him.

00:03:53We talked so much about in the summer, how hard they really pushed them, right?

00:03:57Lots of padded practices later in the day, it was hotter live tackling.

00:04:01They only missed three tackles where Cincinnati missed, I think it was like 1213.

00:04:05We heard Zach Taylor say a lot how bad that cost them the game.

00:04:09So hand on remandering alone.

00:04:10So yeah, so they were ready to go in that area.

00:04:13I thought they were well coached.

00:04:16You know, elsewhere helped Alex Van Pelt was familiar going against Cincinnati seemed

00:04:20like they had a really good game plan.

00:04:21They stuck to they executed.

00:04:23We even heard, you know, Mayo told us yesterday, guys were going down the sideline, but in

00:04:27the fourth quarter saying, take him to the hill, take him to the hill, right?

00:04:30Because they'd end every practice on the conditioning hill.

00:04:33So those guys were pumped up.

00:04:34They were ready to go.

00:04:35And it sounds small, but those things really matter.

00:04:38Like in these early games where you could see Cincinnati was a team that didn't play

00:04:42their guys a lot in the preseason, and they kind of looked like that.

00:04:45And, you know, the Patriots, they played their guys in the preseason.

00:04:47They had those long training camp practices, and they were ready to go.

00:04:50And it makes a difference in a game like this.

00:04:52Mike.

00:04:53Yeah, it was super impressive.

00:04:54Again, we've mentioned Mayo three or four times now, but the fact that they were able

00:04:57to come out and actually execute the game plan that they set out in their first game,

00:05:04just like that to a T was was really, really impressive.

00:05:08We talked to Keon White, I think mentioned it after the game when on Devon Godshaw's

00:05:12podcast, they were like, we'll run through a brick wall for this guy.

00:05:15And I think that that helps the fact that he's been through this and he knows, I guess,

00:05:19what it takes to not only play in the league, but now coaching the league.

00:05:22And so he's been able to to mend that fence pretty good here so far.

00:05:26It's obviously early and we'll get into it more.

00:05:29I don't know how many games you're going to win in the NFL scoring 16 points, but it was

00:05:32enough on Sunday.

00:05:34And I think that's what matters.

00:05:35And, you know, Bill Belichick, they've always talked about Jabril Peppers actually talked

00:05:38about it last year in the locker room where Bill Belichick would outline a game plan.

00:05:45And they would say, this is what it takes to win.

00:05:46And this is what you have to do to execute it.

00:05:47And last year, they weren't executing it, but they knew what they had to do.

00:05:50Gerard Mayo did the same thing this year and they actually got it done.

00:05:53So again, super impressive.

00:05:54Good start.

00:05:55We'll see what happens here.

00:05:56But again, as of right now for them to and you saw shots in the locker room to like Gerard

00:06:01Mayo, I still think of him as someone who's sort of a like a younger guy and he is he's

00:06:07obviously one of the younger head coach in the NFL, but he commands that team and they

00:06:10respect him.

00:06:11So it's not just like he's one of their peers because he's close to them in age, but he

00:06:15also demands a certain respect as a head coach.

00:06:18And I think that's impressive.

00:06:20There's early on in his career.

00:06:21So again, want to know good start.

00:06:23We'll see what happens.

00:06:24But it's a good, good way to start the Mayo era for sure.

00:06:26And really quickly, Mike, to build off that point, it's about finding ways to win games.

00:06:30I think Kyle Duggar said that.

00:06:32And that really is the big thing.

00:06:33Like for Andre Stevenson mentioned towards the end of the game, he told Alex Van Pelt,

00:06:37I don't think we need to go outside zone.

00:06:38I think we should stick with duo.

00:06:41It just kept getting remanded.

00:06:42Stevenson matched up against the cornerbacks who had no intention of tackling him, whether

00:06:46they wanted to or not.

00:06:47It wasn't happening.

00:06:48So that's what it is.

00:06:49Week in and week out.

00:06:50Find your strengths the way that, you know, halftime adjustments, whatever, what your

00:06:54strength is, lean on that and have that be the way that you win games.

00:06:57So that's a great point.

00:06:58It's just you got to figure out week to week, but hopefully they can have more answers in

00:07:01the passing attack moving forward.

00:07:02Yeah, it almost felt like there's that popular meme.

00:07:05I know it's big in baseball.

00:07:06It's like whenever the Dodgers lose in the playoffs, it will be like, you know, the Dodgers

00:07:10in their $500 million payroll against Team X and the power of friendship.

00:07:14And I don't know how, you know, not quite to that extent, but it definitely felt like

00:07:19there was, it was more than the X's and O's yesterday.

00:07:24And there was just more effort.

00:07:25There's more want to from the Patriots, especially on the defensive side of ball and how far

00:07:32can that connect carry you to a Superbowl?

00:07:34Just want to, I don't know, but can it help you punch above your weight class, which this

00:07:38team is going to need to do this year?

00:07:40Yes, absolutely.

00:07:41I think you saw another example of it last night.

00:07:44The Jets kind of spent all off season getting anointed.

00:07:47They brought in all this talent.

00:07:48Oh, we're getting Aaron Rodgers back.

00:07:49It's our time.

00:07:50You know, we should have had it last year, but now's our chance to come back.

00:07:53And they played like a team that kind of just expected the game to be one for them.

00:07:58And that's the flip side of it.

00:08:00So I, I think it is something the Patriots can lean on this year, but let's get into

00:08:04some of these X's and O's.

00:08:06We could start on the offense.

00:08:08Let's start.

00:08:09Let's start with good search.

00:08:10Good.

00:08:11Grimandre Stevenson looked as dominant as explosive had as much burst as I've seen from

00:08:17him in a long time.

00:08:18I'm going to take a little bit of victory lap here.

00:08:21Look what happens when the guy has some rest.

00:08:23Now that was naturally built in rest because he hadn't played since week 12 of last year,

00:08:27but this is the kind of player he can be.

00:08:29And Gerard Mayo talked about it after the game's underrated running back.

00:08:32He's the kind of guy that can carry an offense and that's part of the reason they want to

00:08:36be a run heavy.

00:08:37118.

00:08:38It was 120 yards came after contact.

00:08:40That being said, 28, 28 touches is a lot.

00:08:44Yeah, it's a lot.

00:08:46And I don't know that if he does that every week, one, if he does every week, he's probably

00:08:49not going to make it to the end of the season.

00:08:51Even if he does, you're going to see an impact.

00:08:53So I know Antonio Gibson was a little banged up coming into this game.

00:08:56This is also just part of my take about why you kind of want to be careful with your moderate

00:09:02Stevenson's usage are there are some games where you're just going to kind of want to

00:09:05ride him to the finish.

00:09:06And this was one of those games.

00:09:08Week one, new coach, you got an opponent on the ropes like, yes, this was the game where

00:09:13you just put the ball in his hands and tell him to put the team on his back.

00:09:18Do they counter that next week with more Antonio Gibson?

00:09:21I'm going to be curious to see that, but this is that game is, is one why I didn't have

00:09:27a problem with the remandering Stevenson contract in two, why I think they do need to be careful

00:09:32with his usage because when he is on his game, you see the kind of difference he can

00:09:37make.

00:09:38Brian.

00:09:39Yeah.

00:09:40He looked like 2022 remandering for most of that game and, you know, 118 after yards after

00:09:45contact 10 missed tackles.

00:09:47Like it was from the first play of the game.

00:09:49Like he breaks one outside, just the contact balance, the vision, the quick feet.

00:09:53Like he, that was one of the best games for Mondays probably had here.

00:09:57And then like icing the game at the end, everyone knows they're going to run it and he's breaking

00:10:02tackles, going downhill.

00:10:03Like that was just an awesome, awesome performance from remandering Stevenson, the exact same

00:10:08play four times.

00:10:09So I want to do a better job of like balancing it out now, because I know sometimes we'd

00:10:15get to the end of the line and Brian's just sitting there like, well, you guys said everything.

00:10:18So I'm gonna try and do a better job mixing it up.

00:10:20Mike.

00:10:21Love it.

00:10:22I was going to interrupt earlier when you were talking about the usage rate, cause that's

00:10:24been your big thing with remandering for the last couple of years now, Alex is okay.

00:10:27Sure.

00:10:28He runs 25 for a buck 20 and a touchdown in week one.

00:10:32Is that sustainable for 17 games?

00:10:33And the easy answer is no, but if that's how you're going to win football games and that's

00:10:37the recipe you need, how do you balance, I guess, keeping the load off of him versus

00:10:43needing to use it?

00:10:44Like, again, you, you mentioned it.

00:10:45We're going to get to that.

00:10:46Yeah.

00:10:47There's going to be games.

00:10:48Cause there's going to be games where you have to do what you did yesterday or on Sunday

00:10:51and, and not, um, I guess not, not ride the wave or whatever, but I'm interested to see

00:10:56how they, how they manage that going forward.

00:10:59But again, for week one, for the game plan, they wanted to run.

00:11:02And I was listening to Jacoby reset over again on WEI yesterday.

00:11:06He mentioned the same thing I was talking about before that, that pepper said, said

00:11:09about bill, where it was cool to see Gerard Mayo and company and coaches lay out that

00:11:14this is how we're going to beat the Bengals.

00:11:16And if this is how we do it, that's, we're going to win the game.

00:11:20And they did exactly that.

00:11:21And it had to, it was remandering and it was against that, um, that subpar run defense

00:11:26against the Bengals that was now, uh, without, uh, who they're DJ reader who left for Detroit

00:11:32this off season.

00:11:33And, and they, they stuck to their guns, they ran it through and it was successful.

00:11:36So, um, again, huge, huge props to remandering.

00:11:40And they've mentioned, it was talked about that he was someone who Gerard Mayo kind of

00:11:45called out and was like, we're going to need you, you need to do this, let's get it done.

00:11:49And it's exactly what happened.

00:11:50So super impressive.

00:11:52that a guy who was solid for, you know, the first couple of weeks of the season last year

00:11:57and into midway through gets hurt, disappointing last season for everyone.

00:12:00He comes back, gets paid and balls out.

00:12:03So good stuff from the running back department.

00:12:05It was, uh, no, no complaints from Andre at all.

00:12:07Yeah, no, but I agree.

00:12:09He needs more help from the passing attack.

00:12:11He needs more help from his fellow running backs.

00:12:13Now, Antonio Gibson was dealing with a hip injury this week that probably had something

00:12:16to do with him.

00:12:17Not really mixing it as much as we may have expected.

00:12:19And remandering mentioned, they also have to Michael hasty.

00:12:22They also have Kevin Harris.

00:12:23Now to Michael hasty is more of like a third down kind of scat back sort of dude.

00:12:27You don't really want him to be the guy who's handling, you know, a lot of those downhill

00:12:30concepts.

00:12:32That's more Kevin Harris.

00:12:33Um, I also wonder if in this game plan, obviously we know they wanted to run the ball, but I

00:12:37wonder if they thought that we're going to run it quite that much because they didn't

00:12:40activate Kevin Harris.

00:12:41Um, and then Antonio Gibson was hurt.

00:12:43I thought that was kind of funky, but it's also week one.

00:12:45If you're like, Hey, we got to lean on you now, but you know, in the future we'll try

00:12:48to take a load off.

00:12:49I get that.

00:12:50I am very nervous about, you know, that approach if he does end up being, obviously he's the

00:12:54bell cow, but 2022, that PTSD of him being their only weapon is very scary.

00:13:00And at times on Sunday, he did look like the only real threat they had on offense.

00:13:04But yeah, for the most part, uh, I was okay with the plan because they did what they needed

00:13:08to do to come out with a win.

00:13:10All right.

00:13:11Uh, so Mike kind of talked about it there.

00:13:12How do you maintain this level of impact from laundries?

00:13:16Stephen, so much.

00:13:17You're probably going to have to do without running him into the ground.

00:13:19I do want to touch on that.

00:13:21It does relate to this game, but first let's hear from our friends at where we're going

00:13:25first.

00:13:26We'll go prospects, prospects.

00:13:27We'll talk about prospects because, uh, although I did go one and two on the weekend with my

00:13:32CLNS prospects plays, two of them were negated by a T Higgins injury.

00:13:37That's me.

00:13:38Is it not?

00:13:39Oh, sorry.

00:13:40Do that again.

00:13:41Hang on.

00:13:42Almost had it.

00:13:44We have to go into this one first and then hit it.

00:13:47Why does this not work for us?

00:13:50This is great.

00:13:51We tested it.

00:13:52I know.

00:13:53We just did it.

00:13:54We just did it.

00:13:55Guys.

00:13:56I think it's all its fault.

00:13:57I'm going to make, I want to make this right.

00:13:58So we're going to give it two seconds.

00:14:00Okay.

00:14:01Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do you definitely need that one where we're all on the side?

00:14:08It's supposed to automatically.

00:14:09They're up.

00:14:10Oh, I thought we had it.

00:14:12Someone asked in the chat.

00:14:13Someone asked in the chat if this is live.

00:14:15This is definitely live.

00:14:16This is definitely live.

00:14:17Amit's back there.

00:14:18Tell Amit to do it.

00:14:19Amit.

00:14:20Hey, Mercy.

00:14:21Amit, get back here and play our, play our read.

00:14:27Come on.

00:14:28Well, I guess, what the heck?

00:14:37There it is.

00:14:38There we go.

00:14:39Yay.

00:14:40Okay.

00:14:41So we had two of them this weekend, like I mentioned, but two of them negated by injuries

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00:16:15All right.

00:16:16Who, who actually got that to work?

00:16:18So we know for next time, cause we've got to do two more of those, but, uh, I don't

00:16:22know.

00:16:23All right.

00:16:24I'm guessing it was all at homage.

00:16:25Just be ready next time.

00:16:26All right.

00:16:27Anyway, where are we back where we were?

00:16:28So how do you continue to be as effective in the run game without running remodeling?

00:16:35Stevenson in the ground starts up front, starts with the offensive line.

00:16:39I know Gerard Mayo came out the other day and talked about how impressive the offensive

00:16:42line was.

00:16:43I, I, I'm not necessarily saying he was wrong, but 120 yards, 118 after contact, like remodeling,

00:16:52Stevenson did not have many clean handoffs.

00:16:53We'll get to the pass blocking a second.

00:16:55Taylor, you look ready to say something here, but

00:16:57for that narrative, you allow him to get further up the field.

00:17:00My point, you allow him to get further up the field before he said Taylor.

00:17:03Of course.

00:17:04Yeah.

00:17:05That narrative makes me mad.

00:17:06PFF tracks like contact.

00:17:09Literally there was like a play where BJ Hill scraped through Mondrey Stevenson's leg.

00:17:12It's literally the moment that like a fingertip touches you, that's contact.

00:17:17So we need to take into account one, those dual runs at the end of the game, they were

00:17:20designed so that remandering had to beat a cornerback, which he himself said is a matchup

00:17:25that he likes.

00:17:26So those are plays where he was hit at the line of scrimmage or like a yard past and

00:17:30still ripped off explosive gains.

00:17:32Then you also have to take into account that the bangles were selling out to stop remandering

00:17:35because they knew he was the only real threat, especially late in the game.

00:17:39Like David Andrews mentioned in the second half, and you can see it on the tape, the

00:17:42bangle started not even like just blitzing specifically run blitzing.

00:17:46Like they were just trying to get into the backfield, gum up the interior.

00:17:50And then obviously, you know, set the edges and make sure remandering couldn't go anywhere.

00:17:54So there's those to take into account and the outside zone pin pull scheme wasn't really

00:17:58working for them.

00:18:00The bangles did a really good job forcing remandering inside and then second level guys

00:18:03were getting downhill and stopping him.

00:18:05So there's a lot to take into account with that, like 98% yards after contact.

00:18:10I understand looking at the raw number that it makes the offensive line look bad, and

00:18:14they were far from perfect for sure.

00:18:15A lot of it was remandering kind of putting things on his back.

00:18:18But let's be very clear.

00:18:21It wasn't like the line was out there just like not doing anything positive.

00:18:25They were doing their jobs more often than not.

00:18:28But there was also a lot of remandering, just having to win one on one and being able to

00:18:31do that.

00:18:32Can they run block better?

00:18:34Yes or no?

00:18:35Yeah, for sure.

00:18:36For sure.

00:18:37And I think like when city so is back in the lineup, the more latent Robinson plays and

00:18:40gets more comfortable.

00:18:41You know, Darian Lowe looked better than actually no choose was solid as a run block.

00:18:44I want to give him credit there.

00:18:45But yeah, I mean, Gerard Mayo said it, they're going to get better every week.

00:18:48That's the point of the Scott Peter system is I'm going to give you all the tools.

00:18:52Now every time someone beats you, I'm going to teach you how to be better and not get

00:18:55beat that way.

00:18:56So as long as that growth is there, you know, obviously thumbs up, but you know, it's only

00:19:00week one.

00:19:01So we'll see later.

00:19:02And my thoughts on the run blocking specifically, then we'll get into the pass blocking.

00:19:06Yeah.

00:19:07Just quickly on Robinson.

00:19:08He was a force again.

00:19:09I was on on the initial watch in their final preseason game against Washington.

00:19:14I was I was a bit hard on Robinson.

00:19:16I didn't think he looked good.

00:19:17And then, you know, it kind of came back and I know Brandon Thorne went through the film

00:19:21a little bit more and he was he was solid against Washington.

00:19:23There was a couple of mistakes and then he followed it up on Sunday again.

00:19:27He looks he looks really solid.

00:19:28And so look, it's it's week one for a fourth round rookie to come in and look like he's

00:19:34going to be the reason that they're going to play Mike and went to a tackle probably

00:19:36for the season because he's playing really well at guard and they're able to kind of

00:19:40shore up that side of the line right now.

00:19:41Taylor just cringe a little bit on that one.

00:19:43But again, what do you do, though?

00:19:45Because you want to play city.

00:19:46You want to play laden and you want to play Mike and there's only two guard spots.

00:19:49So it's probably what's going to end up happening.

00:19:52And you mentioned Chooks, man.

00:19:54I'm sure we'll get to the passing game and the pass blocking.

00:19:57But yeah, he was OK in the run game, but he struggled early.

00:19:59And that's the ultimately the reason why he came out.

00:20:01So Lowe comes in, definitely shores up that that pass blocking scheme that they wanted

00:20:05to, you know, want to perform with.

00:20:08And it got better.

00:20:09But that'll be one to watch, too, as we move forward, is what they do at left tackle.

00:20:12Brian.

00:20:13Yeah, I was with Taylor.

00:20:14Like I know the two yards before contact doesn't look good, but a lot of it was like getting

00:20:19Ramond in advantage situations or, you know, breaking arm tackles like you'll take that.

00:20:25So I thought that as a whole, the offensive line, they were run blocking pretty well,

00:20:29the pass blocking we can get to.

00:20:31But I thought that was kind of misleading.

00:20:34And also Caden Wallace, I thought, looked pretty good as that extra blocker.

00:20:37He was.

00:20:38Yeah, I like that.

00:20:39Eighteen times like he can run block right now in the pros.

00:20:42I thought that was pretty impressive.

00:20:44Just, you know, that was something they did in that twenty twenty two game.

00:20:47We talked a lot about with Jake Jacoby starting for the Browns, like use those jumbo looks.

00:20:52So they use Caden Wallace there a lot.

00:20:54And I thought he had some good push in the ground game as well.

00:20:57Yeah, I think it's in those looks really quick in those jumbo sets.

00:21:02They were very straightforward.

00:21:03They passed once and I think it was snaps.

00:21:06I think there were three kneel downs, like fifteen, really.

00:21:08But that was really cool to have them try out all those guys, like three tight end sets

00:21:13and be like, yeah, stop us if you can.

00:21:14And they couldn't.

00:21:15That was all.

00:21:16So I was going to say Caden Wallace, more or less half a touchdown reception this year.

00:21:23More I could see it.

00:21:24Yeah.

00:21:25Take the gamble on trick plays.

00:21:27The part the part of the regular season that I do love is like we watch training camp all

00:21:32summer long.

00:21:33And so we feel like we get an understanding for, you know, formations they want to run

00:21:37and pairings they want to do this, that and the other thing.

00:21:39And then we go out and we watch our ten, fifteen minutes.

00:21:42And we kind of figure out like the front five that we're going to use.

00:21:44But the thing I love is that we do leave practice and we don't know their scheme or game plan.

00:21:49And so, like, we're all we're all thinking like Caden Wallace put him on the rack.

00:21:53He's not going to play this year.

00:21:54They're going to try and bring in other guys.

00:21:56And then second play of the game, they bring in unbalanced.

00:22:00They bring him in as a run blocker and it's like, oh, no, he is a part of their scheme

00:22:04and a part of what they want to do on offense, too, which, again, I just think that's pretty

00:22:07cool.

00:22:08It's something we we weren't expecting at all.

00:22:09We figured he would be, you know, a rotational piece and be there if someone gets hurt.

00:22:12But they're going to use them right away in these unbalanced, unbalanced looks.

00:22:15So I think that's good to see, too, from the rookie.

00:22:18Yeah, no, that that's a look that should continue.

00:22:21And to to your point, Taylor, about it, I'm kind of just only having one plan when I say

00:22:26one plan, they're really almost exclusively running out of it.

00:22:29That's one of those ones where, like you said, that's just about execution.

00:22:32It doesn't matter if they know what you're doing.

00:22:34If you're going to execute at a high level, you're going to be able to make it work.

00:22:38Now, when it comes to pass blocking, Jacoby Berset pressured over 48 percent of the time

00:22:42this week.

00:22:43He was the most pressured quarterback in the NFL in week one.

00:22:47Half of those pressures came from left tackle, according to PFF here.

00:22:50So I'll give the coaching staff a ton of credit.

00:22:53They recognized early and I under like Darian Lowe's banged up, OK, you want a healthy group

00:22:58out there to start?

00:22:59I get it.

00:23:01They recognized early Chooks, a core four does not have it today.

00:23:05He is not three pressures and five dropbacks.

00:23:08He does not have it today.

00:23:09They made the switch.

00:23:10Darian Lowe wasn't great, but he was better for pressures and 16 dropbacks against Trey

00:23:15Hendrickson, who is a good player.

00:23:17I give the coaching staff a ton of credit there.

00:23:19I know Gerard Mayo said it will continue to be a competition between Lowe and a core four.

00:23:25I would hope Lowe starts this week.

00:23:27He's going to be healthier and he proved in that game he's the better option, Mike.

00:23:31I think you have to go in that direction to start this week.

00:23:35Yeah, absolutely.

00:23:36I I second the fact that I give them credit for not trying to bang their head against

00:23:40the wall, even though Chooks struggle because, you know, some coaching staffs, whether it's

00:23:43here or across the league, would say, well, no, these are five guys.

00:23:46We're going to let them work the kink out.

00:23:48And they didn't.

00:23:49And so I don't want to say it's impressive.

00:23:52It was the right thing to do, but it was it was something they needed to do.

00:23:54And I'm glad they did it.

00:23:55Look, it's I'll say this objectively.

00:23:58It's not a great look for the big picture.

00:24:00What I mean by that is Ellie Wolf came out in the offseason, hyped up Chooks, a core

00:24:03force of starting left tackle, and he's benched 13 plays into the season.

00:24:08Now, you kind of got to eat that.

00:24:10But also, right, that's a lot better than just saying, well, we said he was left tackle.

00:24:14It doesn't matter that we can't block he's out there.

00:24:15So they made a tough decision and they deserve credit for that.

00:24:18I think it's better a better look to acknowledge your mistake and fix it rather than, again,

00:24:24bang your head against the wall and say, well, we spent X amount of dollars and we praise

00:24:27this guy to be our left tackle.

00:24:29And even though we can't do it, we need to we need to make it look like we think we're

00:24:33right. And this will work itself out eventually.

00:24:35And so and kudos to the Darian Lowe, too, for being able and ready to go and probably

00:24:40fighting through some pain and an injury that he was going through, because Mike Giardi

00:24:44wrote about it on Boston Sports Journal this week.

00:24:45He talked to Lowe in the locker room this week, and he didn't sound too optimistic

00:24:49about his outlook to play in the game.

00:24:51And so it looks like a game time decision comes in as sort of a backup option, if need

00:24:56be, winds up being active and comes out and plays a heck of a game.

00:24:59So I look forward to the Darian Lowe playing left tackle and playing it well at this

00:25:05point. And it sounds crazy to say because he has become kind of the butt of the joke

00:25:10around here for a little while.

00:25:11The last couple games, the Patriots played last year or whatever, but he did, Alex, look

00:25:16like their best option to left tackle for that game.

00:25:19So, again, with with Cato Wallace getting more looks, we'll see if they end up making

00:25:22that sort of switch to a younger guy eventually.

00:25:25But for now, Chooks isn't it if they want to make an adjustment and try them on the

00:25:29right side eventually, maybe.

00:25:30But I think everywhere, everywhere else looked fine along the offensive line besides

00:25:35left tackle early. And you want to play the five guys you have as much as possible

00:25:39together. Look through one set of eyes like Scar used to always say.

00:25:43And so I'm impressed with the switch.

00:25:44And I hope that, you know, getting a full game under his belt could could help that

00:25:49could help that out even more.

00:25:51Brian, the only other, I think, past pro issue on the offensive line seemed to be kind

00:25:57of Leighton Robinson.

00:25:58I think five pressures was a team high, but a lot of that seemed more like the mental

00:26:03side of the game, right? Like there are some different pressure that Cincinnati schemed

00:26:07up. Yeah, one middle.

00:26:09Yeah, he allowed I think it was like two free rushers that he allowed.

00:26:12So you don't want to get on him too much because he's a rookie in his first career

00:26:15start against a pretty complex, you know, talented defense.

00:26:18But that seemed to be the one other type of thing, you know, from the past blocking

00:26:22point of view, was there a couple of free rushers from Leighton's point that, you

00:26:27know, one, they they would have had a big play to pop Douglas on kind of like this

00:26:30pick wheel and Douglas got wide open.

00:26:32But a free rusher kind of negated that.

00:26:34So that was the one other thing like Lowe wasn't perfect on the left tackle spot, but

00:26:38he was definitely better than Chuuk.

00:26:39So I think he is their best option going forward.

00:26:41But yeah, I don't want to get on Robinson too hard again.

00:26:45It's his first start. But I think there were just some mental issues that you hope he

00:26:48cleans up and should clean up with more experience going forward.

00:26:52Taylor. First, thank you, Dennis, for tuning in from Germany.

00:26:55I think he said it was six o'clock in the morning or something like that.

00:26:58That's insane. Just wanted to clock at night.

00:26:59I think they're ahead of us. It's like night.

00:27:01Oh, either one. Appreciate the tuning in, buddy.

00:27:04But yeah, the offensive line, Mike and when he won David Andrews, they had really good

00:27:08days. I think that's really want to see more than anything, because I think you

00:27:11understand there's going to be struggles in other places like Michael Jordan, for the

00:27:14most part, was solid. Now that left guard spot, I've mentioned it before.

00:27:18A lot of the time you end up uncovered because a lot of the time you'll see those

00:27:21like three technique pass rushing tackles on the right side.

00:27:24And technically, there's a lot of the time you end up getting more help towards that

00:27:28left side. But I like the fact that the stalwarts and the guys that you need to depend

00:27:31on to be nearly perfect and pass pro, they were like you guys already said it.

00:27:35But Darian Lowe had a really good game, which is awesome.

00:27:37Such an easy guy to root for wasn't perfect, but it was better than what any was going

00:27:42to possibly expected at the beginning of the summer or even going back to the spring.

00:27:46And then Lane Robinson, one on one.

00:27:48Honestly, he's been very good.

00:27:49There were a couple of times where he got beat to his corners.

00:27:52And one of those, I think it was just maybe over set a little bit.

00:27:55But really the mental side, he'll learn.

00:27:57He's also sandwiched between two veterans, which helps a lot.

00:28:00Like there was one play.

00:28:01I don't think Andrews was able to get there quite in time.

00:28:03But you saw like laden that guy inside and then Andrews tried to help him out a little

00:28:07bit. So I think they need to get better.

00:28:10We all know they need to get better.

00:28:11But the outlook is positive considering city.

00:28:14So should give you even better guard play.

00:28:16Maybe Darian Lowe as he's healthier, as he continues to work in the strike system and

00:28:20continue to improve. And Lane Robinson, obviously, Gerard Mayo had all the praise in the

00:28:24world for him, saying they knew all the way back in training camp.

00:28:27They had something special.

00:28:28And it's very obvious, like the way that he is not passive in past protection, the way

00:28:33that, you know, Evan mentioned it to me.

00:28:34And I thought it was a great point.

00:28:35He passed. That's kind of like a tackle, which is good and bad.

00:28:38He's kind of high in his stance, which can lead to him getting pulled back.

00:28:40But it also shows these athletic for a big guy.

00:28:42So I liked what I saw from the past protection, all things considered.

00:28:48That's a fat asterisk.

00:28:49But again, your stalwarts were clean.

00:28:51And I think that's one of the bigger takeaways.

00:28:53I mean, look, this kind of speaks to where the offensive line is at as a whole, that

00:28:59Jacoby Bursette was the most again, the most pressured quarterback in the league.

00:29:03And we're sitting here saying it's not as bad as we thought it was going to be.

00:29:07I think that kind of speaks to where the offensive line was at more than anything else.

00:29:11But in which, yeah, definitely some pieces to build on.

00:29:16It's really just getting that left tackle situation.

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00:30:55Uh, Wallace, what would happen?

00:30:57Oh, it was Alex.

00:31:00Can that was really good.

00:31:01Alex Knight.

00:31:02Now it's one thing that, uh, Los asked us earlier than I think is a very good

00:31:05relevant question.

00:31:06I can't hear you.

00:31:06You're muted, buddy, but I'm going to go.

00:31:09I'll go for it.

00:31:10Sorry.

00:31:10Yeah.

00:31:10Go for it.

00:31:11Yeah.

00:31:11So let's ask the Bengals are known for having a bad run defense.

00:31:13Should we expect the same run dominance or was this just the team playing a bad

00:31:17run defense playing with a lead?

00:31:19So what's different factors?

00:31:20One, I think David Andrews, I got to catch a little bit of the podcast that he's

00:31:24done with Brian Hoyer, which is fantastic access, by the way, y'all need to watch

00:31:28that.

00:31:29It's really, really cool.

00:31:30But he mentioned how in the summer they also had success against their own run

00:31:33defense, which I think is probably the best run defense in the league.

00:31:36It was last year.

00:31:37And obviously now they're still very stout.

00:31:39It was that one drive, but I think they were tired.

00:31:41Um, I do think this is a good run game.

00:31:43Like most of the positive runs were the dual bounces and runs behind Mike and

00:31:47when those are going to be there every week.

00:31:50Also, I will say the NFL is geared towards stopping the past.

00:31:53So there's not a lot of good run defenses in the league.

00:31:55Like Gerard Mayo said, the Patriots always have one.

00:31:58A lot of schemes don't really care whether they have a good run defense or not, because

00:32:01most teams aren't going to commit to the run enough that it's a problem.

00:32:04That's going to cost you games.

00:32:05That said, when they do face a good run defense, you need to be more multiple

00:32:09because at that point you're kind of banging heads.

00:32:11One side's going to win.

00:32:12One side's going to lose, but you can't rely on it to carry your offense.

00:32:16So again, question by Lowe's.

00:32:18I think this run game will continue to have success, but I don't know if that's

00:32:22going to be the case down the season when, if teams are just like, we don't

00:32:25really care about the past, we're just going to literally load up like the

00:32:28bangles where they didn't even play with the deep safety towards the end.

00:32:31You can't be that predictable, but I do think that we're going to consistently

00:32:34see this run game be effective.

00:32:35Yeah.

00:32:35And Mayo mentioned Mayo mentioned to the other day that they're going to be a run

00:32:39team.

00:32:40And then he was asked to clarify and he said, no, no, we're a game plan team, but

00:32:44we liked, we're going to use our run game as sort of our bread and butter.

00:32:47And so you look at it that way and they, they may have the success they had as far

00:32:51as like yards per carry.

00:32:52And you know, when he ends the ball up, he's going to get X amount of yards, but

00:32:55they're also, they may not run a 20, 25 times, depending on again, what the other

00:32:59defense looks like and how, how it's going to look.

00:33:01So it'll change, but I'm with you there.

00:33:03It's it's yeah, that's kind of my point.

00:33:06All right.

00:33:06Let's move on to the past game.

00:33:07Uh, I thought this was a, a, a professionally quarterback game, if that

00:33:13makes sense and that he haven't seen one of those in a while, right?

00:33:18He stayed on schedule.

00:33:19This is a big point for the Patriots offense too.

00:33:20And this was a big part of it.

00:33:22They were able to be so effective running the ball because they stayed on schedule.

00:33:25You know, they got to second and six, they got to third and three, and they

00:33:28were top 10 in the league in average yards to go in on second and third down

00:33:31in week one, how many times the last few years, Oh, it's second and eight.

00:33:37Oh, it's first and 15.

00:33:38Well, the drives over.

00:33:40And I'm not saying that they, that won't be a thing anymore, but their ability to

00:33:44stay out of those situations to me was important and that allowed Jacob reset

00:33:48to quarterback the way he did, which was basically take care of the ball, take

00:33:53what the defense gives you and just keep everything under control and keep things

00:33:56moving, right?

00:33:57Don't let the ball hit the ground, get up the field.

00:33:59He did have a couple of misses.

00:34:01He had the one to Hunter Henry, the fade that he under through that

00:34:03probably should have been picked.

00:34:05And it does change the narrative of the game.

00:34:07If that gets picked.

00:34:07So give Hunter Henry credit there.

00:34:09And then he had one later in the game that he threw on a third down pop.

00:34:13Douglas runs his route a little short of the sticks.

00:34:16Probably could have picked it up on the ground.

00:34:18If it's an accurate throw to code, your set throws it high.

00:34:21Douglas still made the catch, but he had to like jump, secure it, land, turn.

00:34:25By the time he does all that, the defenders are there and he doesn't

00:34:27really have anywhere to go.

00:34:28So go.

00:34:29We also double clutched it for some reason.

00:34:31I couldn't tell why was that on that?

00:34:34Yeah, it was that.

00:34:34I didn't notice that hesitates and then throws.

00:34:37If he anticipates pop breaking the route off and throws it, it's kind of like the

00:34:41KJ Osborne one where it was short of the sticks, but there was enough room that

00:34:44realistically he could have like dove and got it, but yeah, there was also a double

00:34:47clutch, which I think may have affected why.

00:34:49So again, like, did he leave some plays on the field?

00:34:51Yes.

00:34:52The deep ball to Taekwon Thornton at the beginning of the second half, Jalen

00:34:55Polk's open on the other side.

00:34:57Um, he had another one in the red zone.

00:34:59I think it's the play before the Hunter Henry play where he has a tight end on a

00:35:02flag, kind of pulling away from the safety as he throws it.

00:35:05So he leaves some plays on the field.

00:35:06Yes.

00:35:07And people are going to look at that and say, well, couldn't Drake may have done

00:35:11what they asked Jacoby Berset to do and maybe a little more to which I would say

00:35:15yes, but I don't think that's the point.

00:35:17I think the point is John, they're building this offense up and they kind of

00:35:22talked about this after the game and their report, there's a report for me in

00:35:25rapport that they want everything in place before Drake may comes in.

00:35:30Drake may will grow with the offense in practice.

00:35:32But as those growing pains play out in games, they want it to be Jacoby Berset.

00:35:36And the reality is could, could Drake may have done a little more?

00:35:40Yes.

00:35:40There's also some things that Jacoby Berset did decisions he made or didn't

00:35:44make that were just veteran decisions that I think Drake may seeing them on tape

00:35:50and getting them explained to him on tape in that room, which code Berset will save

00:35:53him some growing pains on the field.

00:35:56Could they have done that with Drake may?

00:35:57Yes.

00:35:58I don't think that's an inaccurate take, but I think the more important

00:36:01takeaway is they didn't need Drake may to do what they did on Sunday.

00:36:06And I think that's more, more the approach they're taking.

00:36:08So I also think just the passing game will get a little more aggressive as the

00:36:12pass rush, um, improves, or sorry, as the past protection improves, as the

00:36:18Bengals turned up the energy on the pass rush late in the first half, you saw

00:36:21them come out at the start of the second half and get very conservative there.

00:36:25The first three drives that third quarter were nine plays for 20 yards, two, three

00:36:32and outs, and then the three and out with the field goal off the forest

00:36:35fumble from Joe Cardona.

00:36:36So there is room for the offense to expand under Jacoby Berset, but I don't

00:36:40think this is the game that you look at and say, man, we need Drake may.

00:36:43And there, even on that one more point, I know I'm kind of hogging it on.

00:36:46Then I'll get to you guys.

00:36:47One more point on that.

00:36:48Jacoby Berset's never really been a statue, but he's also never been a guy

00:36:51that you look at as a threat with his legs either.

00:36:54They were in this game, scrambled four times, three for first downs, made a couple

00:36:58of nice throws on the run, or just repositioned himself to safely throw the

00:37:01ball away instead of taking a sack.

00:37:03Uh, he gave me a little something there.

00:37:06It wasn't just quite a pure, you know, vanilla quarterbacking three

00:37:09step hit the shortest route.

00:37:11It was a little something to that, but I thought he was fine.

00:37:14I didn't come away from that game thinking, Oh boy, they got

00:37:17to get Drake may ready Taylor.

00:37:20Yeah.

00:37:20I, so I got some crap for saying I was pretty much fine with your company's

00:37:25performance.

00:37:25Like I had very few complaints.

00:37:26Cause I think the bad moments he had were magnified by the situation.

00:37:30Like I'll say the Taekwon Thornton one, that's one where you got your fast guy

00:37:34and you're just like, Hey, either you run under this or nobody gets it.

00:37:37Taekwon was also very well covered.

00:37:38That was one where, when I go through these plays, I try to segment like,

00:37:41where do they miss opportunities?

00:37:43Where do they make plays?

00:37:44And you know, what were the screw ups?

00:37:45That was one where I'm like, I'm kind of tossing that in the other bin.

00:37:48Uh, but then the missed opportunities in the red zone are the biggest area

00:37:51or they need to be better.

00:37:52Like you can't put the ball in arm's way.

00:37:55And you need, there was one play where he checked it down to Ramon Dre.

00:37:57I think every other option was a possibility.

00:38:00That's, that's the one I'm talking about with the tight end.

00:38:02I think everyone talks about Jalen Pope and it's like, yeah, but KJ Osborne.

00:38:07And I think it was Hunter Henry.

00:38:08We're also open that needs to improve.

00:38:10But the fact that he was able to keep them on schedule, like John kept

00:38:13peppering us with questions about all, but Drake may could have done XYZ.

00:38:16We will never know.

00:38:17And when, if they lose the game, then I'll bring that up.

00:38:20But at the end of the day, you need to do enough to win.

00:38:22And they would not have been in that game without Jacoby getting the ball out on

00:38:25time to avoid sacks and those negative plays running when he got opportunities,

00:38:29converting on third downs.

00:38:31He also had some big third down throws.

00:38:33Like he had that one to Hunter Henry.

00:38:34He had one to pop Douglas.

00:38:36I feel like those are sliding under the radar because everybody

00:38:38wants Drake made a play.

00:38:39So whenever Jacoby does something, right.

00:38:41People kind of are just like, Oh yeah, whatever.

00:38:43He's a veteran, but it's like those things matter.

00:38:45And they're a big reason.

00:38:46The offense was in the position.

00:38:47They were in on top of, obviously, Ramond Drey Stevenson's incredible effort.

00:38:50A lot of things that Jacoby Berset can improve, but I didn't see this

00:38:53performance and think, Oh man, the pats are screwed at quarterback with Jacoby.

00:38:57Like there's things he can improve upon, but they are learning moments.

00:39:00It wasn't like, you know, some of the things we saw in practice and training

00:39:03camp where the deep stuff just is not there.

00:39:05And it feels like the accuracy is just bad enough where it's really going to cost you.

00:39:10Again, those things did pop up, but as long as they, uh, aren't coming in

00:39:14critical situations, like God habit, third downs, things like that.

00:39:18I'm I'm not too mad about it.

00:39:20Yeah.

00:39:20Taylor.

00:39:20I think the word you use off the top there is the exact way to phrase it.

00:39:23It was fine.

00:39:24It was fine.

00:39:25Nobody's sitting here saying he's going to win MVP.

00:39:28Nobody's seeing here.

00:39:28He's going to lead them to the division playing like that.

00:39:30But it was fine.

00:39:32It was, it was, it was whatever it was.

00:39:34I think that the EPA chart, the EPA quarterback chart that gets shared every

00:39:37week, he was like dead center in the middle.

00:39:40It was on the

00:39:41take that you'll take that.

00:39:43I would have, I know I hate myself for using it, but he was, he was right dead

00:39:46in the middle and to your point, their learning experiences, honestly, and maybe

00:39:50this is, I don't mean to say this to disparage Jacoby, I don't really care

00:39:53what he's learning at this point.

00:39:55He's 31 years old.

00:39:55He is what he is.

00:39:56It's not going to matter what he's learning or not learning in two months.

00:39:59But him going in the film room with Alex Van Pelt and Drake May and pointing out

00:40:03the decision saying, this is why I did that.

00:40:05This is why I didn't do that to Drake May.

00:40:07That is going to be beneficial.

00:40:08It's going to be very beneficial.

00:40:10Uh, Brian, your thoughts on the quarterbacking performance.

00:40:12Yeah, I thought he did his job and he executed the game plan.

00:40:15Right.

00:40:15And I would have liked him.

00:40:17There were some times I thought he could have been a little bit more aggressive.

00:40:19Like that one in the red zone, you were talking about Taylor, but maybe they

00:40:23just thought with this game plan, how good the defense is playing.

00:40:25We don't need to take these chances.

00:40:27Right.

00:40:27So he did his job.

00:40:28You, you saw, you know, I mentioned the free rushers earlier,

00:40:31talking about the pass pro.

00:40:32Like one of them, he, he stands in there.

00:40:34He just dumps it off quick, hot, uh, Austin Hooper, who takes it 16 yards.

00:40:38Like he had the answers.

00:40:39That's why he's starting right now.

00:40:41So, you know, Barth, I think you said they didn't need Drake may in this game,

00:40:45but I think it might show kind of the excitement of what Drake may could do in

00:40:50this offense, because he could raise that ceiling.

00:40:53You hope when eventually he, he has those answers and he can gets in there.

00:40:56Cause he's a little bit more aggressive with mindset wise.

00:40:59He has a stronger arm.

00:41:00Maybe he can hit some of those throws more down the field and maybe that

00:41:04adds 10, 14 points on your score.

00:41:06Right.

00:41:06And now you're, you know, in the mid twenties, even touching the thirties

00:41:09there, that's what you need because you're not going to win every week,

00:41:12throwing for 120 yards and scoring 16 points.

00:41:15So I thought Jacoby, you know, executed the game plan well, but.

00:41:19That game plan that, that way of winning, it isn't going to win you games every

00:41:23week, so we'll, we'll see how it looks going forward, Mike.

00:41:26Yeah.

00:41:26I'll just add that, you know, I I've mentioned 2025 and beyond.

00:41:31This is not a 2024 team, but in the building in week one, in order to game

00:41:36plan for Sunday, you're a 2024 team and you are looking to win one week.

00:41:40And Jacoby did exactly that.

00:41:42Now, is that gonna, is that gonna win games down the stretch?

00:41:45I don't know.

00:41:46And I guess I don't mean to say it like this, but I don't really like, I don't

00:41:49care at this point because they did win the game and so it got it done this week.

00:41:53And that, um, what, what Drake may can bring where, okay, maybe you don't score

00:41:5816 points, maybe you score 28 points and he throws a touchdown and gets, you know,

00:42:03does X, Y, and Z, and it makes a lot more happen.

00:42:05But right now, this early, they might think that there's also a lower floor

00:42:09there and they may have scored six points because he turned the ball over twice and

00:42:12it didn't have the answers that Brian just talked about.

00:42:15So I don't, I have a hard time looking for when are we going

00:42:19to play Drake may after a win.

00:42:21Um, I think if after a, you know, the team loses and they score 16 points,

00:42:26say they lose 20 to 20 to 16.

00:42:29Right.

00:42:29And the defense still plays good.

00:42:30Let's up 20 points, but the offense, offense can't get the

00:42:33ball across the finish line.

00:42:35You know, a few times and they have to settle for field goals.

00:42:37Well, what would Drake may have done in this game to make it better?

00:42:39So, um, I'll story short again, impressed, impressed with Jacobi's

00:42:44way of, of methodically running the offense could have done more,

00:42:48but they didn't need it.

00:42:49Um, so until he can't do it when they need it, that's when you kind of look

00:42:53at, you know, the rest of the room, but for now, week one, a good win.

00:42:56And, uh, we'll see what happens.

00:42:58And look, it could get uglier next week.

00:43:00It could get uglier against a better Seattle defense and the calls for Drake

00:43:04may are only going to get louder.

00:43:05I still think you sat him.

00:43:07Now you don't play him for the first month of season.

00:43:09I certainly don't want to make his first start on a short week.

00:43:12Absolutely not.

00:43:13Um, but yeah, like the, the, the calls from air are going to continue to come

00:43:16and, and they're going to continue to come all year and that's just something

00:43:19the team's going to have to deal with.

00:43:20And that's part of the decision you make when you sit the young quarterback.

00:43:23But I think you saw why there there's a, there's a Drake Mason unknown.

00:43:30Drake Mason unknown.

00:43:31I think as they get this thing going and as, as they build up the offense in

00:43:35season, which they're going to have to do for better or worse, they don't want

00:43:39to have to do so with an unknown at quarterback, because it's going to

00:43:41make that process a lot tougher.

00:43:43What you saw on Sunday was maybe not the best quarterback game you've ever seen,

00:43:46but a guy that is steady and you can set your watch to, and that allows, that

00:43:51gives them the opportunity to be able to really figure out, okay, what

00:43:54are we doing at left tackle?

00:43:55What are we doing in terms of rotating our receivers, things like that.

00:43:58When it comes to the receivers, a lot of people pointed out that

00:44:01nobody really stood out.

00:44:03And I think at least until Kendrick Bourne comes back, that's kind of

00:44:05what they're going to be is, is by committee.

00:44:08They don't have a true dominant.

00:44:09Number one, they're going to just kind of have to ride the hot hand, pick on

00:44:12whatever matchup they like in that game.

00:44:14It's going to be different guys in different weeks, really

00:44:16spreading the ball out.

00:44:17You had five guys with multiple catches, five guys, multiple targets.

00:44:21Uh, KJ Osborne led the team with six, which is not a lot, even for

00:44:24how much they threw the ball.

00:44:26Um, Jalen Polk played a little bit.

00:44:29He got open, um, which was encouraging.

00:44:31And I think as they get more time to throw, that goes back to the line.

00:44:35They'll be able to take advantage of that more.

00:44:37Um, the other thing I'll say is with pop Douglas was their

00:44:39second most used receiver.

00:44:40He's around 60%.

00:44:42I think that's where he's going to be because we talked about this with the

00:44:44line, they're going to do a lot of that 12 personnel, they're going to want

00:44:47their bigger receivers on the field.

00:44:49Blocking KJ Osborne had a great game blocking in this one, especially on

00:44:53the Ramon receivers and touchdown.

00:44:54He, well, I think he walled off a linebacker.

00:44:56I don't even think it was a corner.

00:44:58And when he did a lot of the work, he kind of just got in the way at the end

00:45:01there, but they did use him to do a lot of that dirty work near the line.

00:45:04But the point being like, again, I think they're going to be all over

00:45:08the place with the receivers this year.

00:45:09So I don't know if, uh, um, Brian, we'll start with you, if any particular

00:45:13wide receiver stood out to you, um, in this game, I mean, I just wanted

00:45:18to give Polk credit because, you know, you look at the box score and it's one

00:45:22target, one catch for six yards.

00:45:24And you're like, that's kind of underwhelming for his rookie debut there.

00:45:27But I think he was open a lot more.

00:45:29We talked about that one again, in the red zone where he kind

00:45:32of dust the guy on the fade.

00:45:33He even had another, um, that goal ball to start the third, third quarter to

00:45:38Taekwon, like he was open on the other side.

00:45:40Now that's a far hash throw.

00:45:41So you get why Jacoby maybe tests Taekwon is speedster on that one.

00:45:45But I thought he had a good release there.

00:45:47Even, uh, later, uh, throw to pop on third down, like Polk kind of

00:45:52got open on that backside dig.

00:45:53So I thought he was open a lot kind of throughout the game.

00:45:56And hopefully they see that on the film, they go in next week and say, okay,

00:46:00maybe we, you know, try to get him a little bit more involved

00:46:03and get the ball to him.

00:46:04So box score wasn't great, but I thought it was kind of an encouraging

00:46:07debut there from the rookie wideout.

00:46:10Mike.

00:46:11Yeah.

00:46:11I mean, not, not ton to glean from 15 completions, right?

00:46:15I think you, you like to see pop do a little bit more, um, you know, two

00:46:19catches for just 12 yards, but I don't think that's his fault.

00:46:21I think that that's just, again, I keep going back to it, but that's

00:46:24what the game plan was to, to run the football, get completions in

00:46:27your third downs when you have to.

00:46:28Um, even though Austin Hooper had two catches, they were two big catches.

00:46:32Um, and I think I, I enjoy seeing, um, Jacoby and what he can do with

00:46:36these tight ends, because that was the, the bread and butter in Cleveland.

00:46:39And it looks like they've kind of carried that over here again.

00:46:41Um, and so I echo what you said about Paul, Brian, just getting open and you

00:46:45hope that once they watch the fit, like this is his first game where you see

00:46:51him play X amount of snaps, he gets open X amount of times on these plays.

00:46:54Then you can turn that and kind of work that into your game plan moving forward.

00:46:57So, um, that's kind of that on the receivers.

00:46:59The one thing that I missed when we did Jacobi real quick, that I just wanted

00:47:02to add to that, um, as far as not putting the ball in harm's way, um, again, we

00:47:06can go back to the receivers in a second, but I just, I thought of this was the

00:47:09only time I feel like he did put the ball in harm's way was the ball to hunter

00:47:13Henry, the other misses that he had, they were outside, they were high, they

00:47:17were far, but I don't like, they weren't getting tipped off by a

00:47:20linebacker tip by a cornerback.

00:47:21So I think that even if you're missing and you're missing outside

00:47:24and you're missing far, that's okay.

00:47:25So long as you're not turning the football over.

00:47:27So, um, I just kind of wanted to add that too.

00:47:30Good point.

00:47:30Taylor, uh, any wider series of sit out to you.

00:47:33Um, to Mario Douglas, of course, I thought he and poke were the ones

00:47:36who were getting the most separation.

00:47:37Now there wasn't a ton.

00:47:39There were some plays where I don't want to get too crazy about it this week, but

00:47:43there were a few plays where everybody was covered pretty well in the main

00:47:46coverage, didn't totally love that.

00:47:48Um, Taekwon Thornton, I know people mentioned that he was open a couple

00:47:51of times, one of them was in the red zone where he kind of maybe got behind a

00:47:55corner, but pre-snap it's kind of like in the preseason where people got mad

00:47:58that Jacoby didn't throw to him in the red zone, but people are bracketing

00:48:02Taekwon when he's down there.

00:48:03So pre-snap you see that.

00:48:05And if the safeties don't move, Taekwon's not in the progression

00:48:08because you're not trying to throw to one guy who's occupying two defenders.

00:48:12Um, then there was another one where Taekwon's defender

00:48:14slipped late in the route.

00:48:15I wasn't sure if it was like him putting a move.

00:48:17I think the defender literally just slipped.

00:48:19Um, and he was, you know, on the other side of the field.

00:48:21I just wanted to point that out.

00:48:22Cause I know people were saying that I want to root for Taekwon so badly, but I

00:48:26saw him covered a lot in this game.

00:48:28Uh, some of the moves that we saw in camp where, you know, he gets to the

00:48:31top and tries to shake the guy.

00:48:32Those were not working very much.

00:48:34So in the future, I think in KJ Osborne also was more consistent

00:48:39than I would have liked.

00:48:40Um, I didn't really see as much from him as I was hoping to, but Polk and

00:48:44pop need to be the guys who are at the top of the progression consistently.

00:48:48Because I feel like even going back to the summer, like pop is always open.

00:48:52Polk, even if he isn't open, we've seen like three times already

00:48:55preseason and this week that he'll make the catch.

00:48:58It doesn't really matter.

00:48:59So I'd like to see the best players, the best young players on this

00:49:03more opportunity.

00:49:04So the other guys can be more complimentary.

00:49:06One last thing on the offense where we, we move over to the

00:49:08defense side of the ball here.

00:49:09It's an hour in, uh, quite the crossover, um, Jayvon Baker, only

00:49:14rookie that didn't dress Joe Milton was inactive, but he dresses

00:49:17the emergency third quarterback.

00:49:19Thoughts on his status.

00:49:21Taylor.

00:49:22Uh, one thing really quick.

00:49:23A micro upload just announced the Patriots signed defensive tackle,

00:49:26uh, Jacqueline Roy to their practice squad.

00:49:28He was a fifth round pick from the Vikings last year.

00:49:31I don't know anything about him, but there's that.

00:49:34I remember.

00:49:34Yeah.

00:49:34Out of LSU.

00:49:35I remember him in the draft.

00:49:36He's just a, um, I gotta go back and look, but, uh, pretty

00:49:41penetrator.

00:49:41Um, I think space eater, if I remember correctly, they didn't have a

00:49:45spot on their practice squad, did they?

00:49:47So no, so they're making a move.

00:49:50Yeah.

00:49:50Somebody's going to have to get cut.

00:49:51I'm sorry.

00:49:52What was the question?

00:49:52Alex, my bad.

00:49:53Um, your thoughts on where Jayvon Baker's right.

00:49:56Um, I, I know everyone wants to make it like, oh, it's because of his

00:50:00personality and all that.

00:50:01And the live, I think that it's really just cause he's not playing well.

00:50:05I think it comes down to that.

00:50:06Like even in practice, there was a rep where I was looking at the

00:50:09offensive line, I look over to the receivers, I see Jayvon's about to go.

00:50:12And I'm like, all right, let me see what happens here.

00:50:14I'm just curious.

00:50:15He followed the ball twice.

00:50:16It dropped it.

00:50:17I mean, that's one very small sample size.

00:50:19It was literally warmups.

00:50:20I'm not trying to, you know, beat that to death or anything, but we've seen it in

00:50:24practices throughout the summer that Jayvon just wasn't doing enough to really be

00:50:28someone you'd expect to be active on the game day roster.

00:50:30So as much as we want to make it about all this stuff off the field, I think the

00:50:33bottom line is he's not playing well enough to earn an active game day spot.

00:50:38So that's why I said it was a surprise.

00:50:40People push back against that.

00:50:41And honestly, that was me being in my head.

00:50:42I, I should have been more open-minded that other people would have been

00:50:46surprised, but after everything we've seen, I was not at all shocked to

00:50:50see that he's not active yet.

00:50:51It might take a minute.

00:50:52And, uh, Mayo also said Mayo was asked about it and he said like they

00:50:57disciplined him to a point where it wouldn't reach, like taking a game away

00:51:01from him.

00:51:01So he seemed like he was trending towards being an inactive even before that video

00:51:06came out.

00:51:07And then, you know, Mayo said the discipline part.

00:51:09So yeah, I don't think there was anything to read into from, from the video or how

00:51:14he handled things like that.

00:51:15Yeah.

00:51:16The easiest answer is he's, um, it's a crowded room and Jalen Rager brings,

00:51:21uh, return abilities as a player and, or, well, I guess, nevermind.

00:51:27Uh, I'm kinda, uh, practice squad, but long story short, crowded room.

00:51:32And when you go to, um, like the back end of it with Keishon booty, the, the video,

00:51:40the live probably doesn't help his cause when it's, are we going to address booty

00:51:43or are we going to address, uh, uh, Javon Baker?

00:51:46So like, I don't, I don't think that that was the necessary factor, but you know,

00:51:50doing stuff like that when you're in a crowded room at the back end of it, isn't

00:51:53going to help your cause either.

00:51:55And booty didn't play, they went straight four man rotation at receiver.

00:51:59So he didn't play special teams either.

00:52:01Right.

00:52:01He was just, uh, which Baker could play special teams.

00:52:05He played some gunner like throughout the preseason and camp, but they had other

00:52:09guys who filled in fine at that spot anyway.

00:52:11So our style, he's a dude now, we'll get to him.

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00:54:46All right, let's move on to the, let's move on to the defense.

00:54:48To me, the big story with Patriots defense in this game was the sophomores.

00:54:52Christian Gonzalez, Keon white, you lose Matthew Jude on, you lose

00:54:56Christian Barmore in the preseason.

00:54:58And it suddenly went from a unit that, you know, top 10, maybe top

00:55:02five down the middle of the pack.

00:55:03And it felt like if they're going to stay in that top 10 range,

00:55:05those two guys need to show up.

00:55:07Boy, did they Keon white two and a half sacks.

00:55:10And honestly, to me, it feels like that number kind of undersells

00:55:12his performance, Christian Gonzalez.

00:55:15Excellent in coverage on Jamar chase, Mike, I don't think

00:55:18we've started with you in a bit.

00:55:19So you, what were your thoughts on those two?

00:55:22Uh, Gonzalez is a baller and we knew it and everyone was upset that he

00:55:27didn't have a great preseason and that he kind of was just containing guys

00:55:31instead of not, you know, making plays on the football and instead he comes

00:55:36out and is like, yeah, no, it's, it's week one, I'm ready to rock.

00:55:39He holds chase to, uh, basically nothing for compared to what Jamar

00:55:43chase can do on a football field.

00:55:44And so, uh, shattered him pretty much the whole time.

00:55:47Uh, and had success in doing it.

00:55:48So I'm looking forward now to see what you can do against your guy, uh, Alex

00:55:52Barth in DK Metcalf next weekend, because, uh, that's good, that's his next test.

00:55:57And he's going, uh, you know, he's gone up against the ringer in his first four

00:56:02games last year, and now his first couple of games this year, he'll

00:56:04have Garrett Wilson week three.

00:56:06So, uh, they're putting him to the test and so far he's succeeded.

00:56:09So no complaints on Gonzo's end whatsoever.

00:56:12Um, and then Keon White's a baller, someone who inside outside does it all.

00:56:17Um, you hardly miss Matthew Judon's presence on the field with, with Keon

00:56:21White being there as a pass rusher.

00:56:22Um, again, both on the inside and the outside, I think too, um, he's sort of

00:56:27getting that national recognition too.

00:56:29I saw, saw a baldy breakdown down about him.

00:56:31He's obviously a stat leader now with again, two and a half sacks.

00:56:34He's up there.

00:56:35Uh, and I don't think it did him justice.

00:56:36I went to, someone asked me if, if he was leading the league in stats now.

00:56:39And I look and Greg Russo had ended up having three and just inched him out.

00:56:43But look, I, I think that this is just the beginning for a guy like him.

00:56:47So really, really good to see him, um, Excel this early on.

00:56:50And, uh, it's an, it's impressive to watch the both of them.

00:56:53Taylor.

00:56:55Yeah.

00:56:55Keon White, man.

00:56:56They, so what I thought was interesting was obviously he

00:56:58lined up all over the place.

00:56:59He was on the edge where he, uh, beat Trent Brown inside Joshua Uche.

00:57:04He took Trent Brown down.

00:57:08Yeah, that was crazy.

00:57:09Um, and then he also had, uh, um, I'm sorry, Keon White of

00:57:12pressure as a defensive tackle.

00:57:14They were using him the way they used to use Dante Hightower, Jamie Collins, like

00:57:18those, those linebackers who could rush where it's basically just like either

00:57:22attack the pocket and penetrate or loop around, which he had a lot of success with.

00:57:26So I thought that was really interesting.

00:57:28And I hope we see more of that.

00:57:29The Patriots tried to do that with Matthew Judon at times where they

00:57:32would put him on the inside.

00:57:33It never really worked.

00:57:34So they kind of just kept him on the edge where he was most comfortable.

00:57:37But Keon White even acknowledged this summer that he's really best inside

00:57:41and that's where he's most effective.

00:57:43I asked if he feels like he's come along more on the edge and he was

00:57:46like, you know, I still got work to do.

00:57:47I had the sack, but you know, room to improve a good spot for him.

00:57:50Also funny to hear him say, I'm not the most technically sound

00:57:54rusher, but you know, I go full speed.

00:57:56And I just, he's just trying to make an impact.

00:57:57And honestly, I love the self-awareness from him, uh, because that is really

00:58:01how I described his password style.

00:58:02Although I did think he had some impressive moves thrown in.

00:58:05Love that from Keon.

00:58:06And then Christian Gonzalez watching the tape, I noticed there were a few

00:58:09times where he looks more confident.

00:58:11Like after the snap, he would kind of like shove Jamar chase or give

00:58:15him a little extra after the play.

00:58:16I'm like, I don't remember that from Gonzo last year.

00:58:19Like he's playing like a dude who knows he's a bad man.

00:58:24Yeah.

00:58:24And John Jones said that he's been working really hard in practice,

00:58:27which the coaches have said that now John Jones has said it, man.

00:58:31I don't really care.

00:58:32Like I said it, I don't care if it looks like he's struggling this summer.

00:58:35He struggled last year.

00:58:36Remember when Devante Parker was just owning him vertically, like every single

00:58:40day, and then Mike Pellegrino was like, yeah, but he gets to learn and get better.

00:58:44And then he goes out against AJ Brown and Devante Smith

00:58:47and has a really good day.

00:58:48So I'm glad we didn't buy into that hype on this channel.

00:58:51Um, yeah.

00:58:52And Christian Gonzalez had a really good game.

00:58:54Only downsides I'd say where there was a third down conversion against Jamar

00:58:58Chase, where like the John Jones play where he fires downhill and attacks

00:59:01a Yosha boss, and it's like a huge size mismatch, a huge fourth downstop.

00:59:05Gonzo had a similar play where they were blitzing and he should have just

00:59:09basically waited for the throw to happen, knowing it was going to be short, gone

00:59:12downhill and city backpedaled and basically gave up his momentum.

00:59:16And then Chase was able to fight for extra yardage.

00:59:18He also got called for a penalty.

00:59:20I felt kind of ticky tack and me, but whatever.

00:59:22But besides that in coverage, other than getting picked off two times,

00:59:25like in some bunch looks, he was all over Jamar Chase.

00:59:28Like it was, he was smooth.

00:59:29There was one deep out route where he flipped his hips fluid.

00:59:32I'm just like, Oh, that's it.

00:59:34God.

00:59:34So that's the stuff.

00:59:35So, uh, DK Metcalf is a much different challenge.

00:59:38Jamar Chase is one of the freakiest athletes in the league, but DK is closer

00:59:42to an AJ Brown where he's just so physical and big, it's just kind of guy.

00:59:46You don't see very often, especially with his speed.

00:59:49Now, Pat Sertan, at least statistically was able to hold him down.

00:59:52So I got to watch the tape and see what that was about.

00:59:54Uh, but it's going to be exciting to see another big test for Gonzo.

00:59:57He had a really good first game.

00:59:59Brian.

01:00:00Yeah.

01:00:00And you could tell he was excited for that matchup Jamar Chase, right?

01:00:03Like there was a video in the locker room after where you could

01:00:05hear someone yelling at him.

01:00:07Like he didn't want to give him a new contract.

01:00:09So he was juiced up and he played well.

01:00:10And, uh, Keon too.

01:00:12I know Taylor, you said the quote that he's not a technical sound,

01:00:14technically sound pass rusher, which I hope they just kind of let him move

01:00:19all around and just let him do what he got to do to go after a quarterback.

01:00:22Cause you need that pass rush, right?

01:00:23Without these other guys in your lineup right now.

01:00:26And that was a real promising sign that he was able to do that inside

01:00:30outside with some of those more finesse moves, I thought that was really

01:00:33encouraging from both of those guys.

01:00:35All right.

01:00:35The other thing that stood out for the defense for me, just

01:00:37really technically sound game.

01:00:39And this is something you wonder, you know, bill Belichick

01:00:41preach and preach and preach.

01:00:42And how much is that going to carry over?

01:00:44Um, really the only couple issues in that regard, they were both Josh

01:00:48who Jay, they were both on the same drive back to back third downs.

01:00:51He blows contain on one of them allows Joe Burrow to roll out,

01:00:54hit a receiver, move the chains.

01:00:56And then jumps off side on another, and he's got to be better on third down.

01:00:58So that's where he's going to make his money.

01:01:00But besides that, uh, I thought just, you know, the, the technique

01:01:04element of it, uh, the defense was great.

01:01:07That Jonathan Jones tackle unbelievable.

01:01:09What a play, what a freaking play by him.

01:01:12Um, and those are the kinds of plays that, you know, we became

01:01:14accustomed to under bill Belichick.

01:01:16So to see the defense still at that same level, Taylor in

01:01:19that regard is encouraging.

01:01:20Yep.

01:01:22I'll add, uh, quickly on, on just the defensive backfield.

01:01:26Um, you mentioned John Jones, but Kyle Duggar coming back after the, uh,

01:01:32basically getting Moss by Mike Kosicki.

01:01:33And it looks like he was going to come down, uh, with a touchdown.

01:01:36And obviously Kosicki drops it and has a nice premature gritty there.

01:01:39Um, but then for him to come back the next play and strip the ball

01:01:44out of Tanner Hudson's hand, like you gotta get beat by Kosicki.

01:01:47You come back and it's like, no, I'm not letting this shit happen

01:01:49again, for lack of a better term.

01:01:50He comes through, punches the ball out and makes a nice turnover.

01:01:53So for him to quickly bounce back from that, I thought it was huge.

01:01:55And I thought Duggar overall had a good game.

01:01:57That was probably, you know, Cleveland or Cleveland, Cincinnati was

01:02:01getting some momentum back there.

01:02:02If they got in the end zone, they would have made it a real game.

01:02:04So very impressive stuff from Duggar.

01:02:06Any Marcus Jones too, like right there to recover the fumble.

01:02:12He also had some good reps, uh, some big hits as well.

01:02:15And, uh, also just in the secondary, I thought that Jalen Hawkins

01:02:18usage was kind of interesting because that's someone we talked about as

01:02:21more of like this free safety and they kind of used him to cover tight ends

01:02:25to free up, you know, Duggar and Peppers.

01:02:27So we've had some issues covering tight ends in the past to

01:02:30let them kind of roam more.

01:02:31So, uh, that was just interesting with how they use Hawkins there in their debut.

01:02:35To add to that, it was an interesting thing they did where last year, Peppers

01:02:39was the primary free safety and man coverage, and then Duggar would

01:02:41be the man coverage guy, they flipped it where it was mostly Duggar

01:02:45playing center field and then Peppers against the tight ends.

01:02:48And what they would do sometimes is they would show that man coverage look, and

01:02:52then they would actually break into zone.

01:02:54So I know they mentioned like they wanted to show Burrow certain things.

01:02:56I think that was one of them where it was a look that they had shown on tape all

01:02:59last year and Burrow saying, okay, Duggar's down in the box, Peppers is deep.

01:03:04They're probably going to go straight man.

01:03:05And they didn't, I thought that was cool.

01:03:07And Duggar on his fourth fumble.

01:03:09We heard from Arman Watts, former Patriot, uh, that one of the

01:03:13emphases for DeMarcus Covington this off season was turnovers and sacks.

01:03:16And Kyle Duggar mentioned in practice, Gerard Mayo has been

01:03:19preaching, punching the ball.

01:03:20He said every play, even on the, you know, the more, uh, you know,

01:03:24nondescript plays or whatever, punching the ball out.

01:03:27And he mentioned that that emphasis made him more aware.

01:03:30And when Tanner Hudson, he put the ball away, trying to keep it away from

01:03:33Jalen Hawkins, cause he made a diving tackle attempt, Duggar

01:03:37saw it and punched it out.

01:03:38So that's another really cool thing behind the scenes that the Patriots

01:03:41have struggled to get turnovers consistently, especially last year.

01:03:44I think they were pretty good two years ago, but last year it was a pretty big

01:03:47issue until Jelani to buy and to grow.

01:03:49Pepper's got them going.

01:03:50Now we're seeing one of the things that they're doing in practice, a bit of a

01:03:53change maybe, and something that the players clearly weren't used to carrying

01:03:56over into games, I thought that was pretty sick.

01:03:58Yeah.

01:03:58I'm with you.

01:03:59It was, it was very noticeable the way they were punching at the ball

01:04:01consistently throughout that game.

01:04:03Anything you looked at from the defense, you're like, I want to, you know, either

01:04:07this should change moving forward, or I want to see how this develops moving

01:04:10forward, uh, Mike, honestly, no, I think this, this is the unit.

01:04:16This is what's going to keep them in these games.

01:04:17And this is the reason why I keep going back to it, but you can score 16 points

01:04:22and really not have to worry about it.

01:04:23Like, again, it's, this is more of the worries on this team of the offense.

01:04:27I really have nothing on the defense.

01:04:28The, the, the worries pregame were, can they get a pass rush

01:04:32going without Barmore or Judon?

01:04:33And they did exactly that.

01:04:34And then some with, with Keon and Joshua, two guys like that stepping up.

01:04:37Um, Gonzalez, that was a question mark.

01:04:41It wasn't a question mark, but it was okay.

01:04:42Let's see it since he hasn't played in just about a year and he did it.

01:04:46The, the, the safeties were fine and making plays and then some in the

01:04:49cornerbacks outside of Christian Gonzalez, Marcus Jones, Jonathan

01:04:52Jones were good too.

01:04:53So to, to be, to answer your question.

01:04:55No, I had, I have nothing on the defense.

01:04:57I think that's their unit.

01:04:58That's, what's going to win them games and they're going to stick to it.

01:05:02Yeah.

01:05:02I mean, it looked like a unit that had a lot of continuity, right?

01:05:07Like they were lots of disguises as you know, Taylor was just talking

01:05:10about some of those looks on the backend.

01:05:11They had Joe Burrow and hell for some of that game, that last drive,

01:05:14that last Bengals drive, like Joe Burrow didn't know what he was looking at.

01:05:18He was throwing balls in the dirt.

01:05:19So I think it was encouraging.

01:05:21Like they only blitzed on a quarter of their, their plays and they

01:05:24still got some of that pass rush.

01:05:25That was part of the game plan.

01:05:27Try to keep everything in front of them.

01:05:28What was Burrow's depth of target?

01:05:30Like five, just over five yards.

01:05:32So, uh, maybe, you know, we'll get even more pass rush depending

01:05:36on game plans going forward.

01:05:37I thought that was a really encouraging, uh, kind of start from that unit.

01:05:40So let me phrase it to you this way or sorry, Taylor, go ahead.

01:05:43And then one more question on this.

01:05:45So my nitpicks would be, uh, rub routes and like rub concepts.

01:05:49Cause it happened to Duggar on the forest fumble.

01:05:51It happened to Christian Gonzalez twice.

01:05:53Those are things that need to get cleaned up because they're going

01:05:55to play a lot of man coverage.

01:05:56And that was another big change.

01:05:57So they mentioned that to Marcus Covington, you know, was, it

01:06:00was going to be a different plan.

01:06:02They played mate way more man.

01:06:04They actually blitzed a little bit, but they didn't really

01:06:06blitz at all the last time they played Burrow.

01:06:08And I think a lot of that you saw like that's one having Christian

01:06:11Gonzalez, but also the DeMarcus Covington effect, but with that

01:06:13main coverage, really, no matter who you're going against, you

01:06:16have to be spatially aware or else like there were two or three

01:06:19times that the Bengals could add big plays that Burrow just didn't

01:06:22see, but also the complimentary pass rush, like pass rush, picked

01:06:25up the coverage at times, the coverage picked up the pass rush.

01:06:28I really liked that, but better against pick routes and

01:06:30also rush lane discipline.

01:06:32Burrow got out of the pocket too many times.

01:06:34There was once where Dietrich Wise got bumped by a running

01:06:37back and it knocked him inside.

01:06:38I'm not really going to give him crap for that because that's

01:06:40one of those just football plays like stuff happens, but Josh

01:06:43Uche gave up the edge on one play.

01:06:45I think that maybe he thought Keon White was coming around, but

01:06:48Uche also does that a decent amount.

01:06:50So it's hard to know who is necessarily at fault.

01:06:53Um, but I will say Josh Uche did have a good game overall.

01:06:56Um, and then I think there were a couple of times that Burrow was

01:06:59able to scramble up the middle.

01:07:00So rub routes and rush lane discipline are two big ones.

01:07:03Like Gino Smith had a, it was like a 30 something yard rushing

01:07:07touchdown against the Broncos.

01:07:08So you can't have that kind of stuff.

01:07:10Gino may not be who he wasn't.

01:07:12He was drafted, but you know, he can still run a little bit.

01:07:14So those would be my two things I'd like to see them.

01:07:16Yeah.

01:07:17He had a big run against Denver last week.

01:07:19I don't remember if it was for a touchdown, but I know he had a big run.

01:07:21It was for a touchdown.

01:07:22It was for a touchdown.

01:07:22I was like, is he actually going to get into the end zone?

01:07:24And if he did, I was shocked.

01:07:27Um, one more thing on this.

01:07:28So I've seen a lot of people use this game kind of as an indictment on Burrow.

01:07:33More than, you know, the Patriots kind of having a good

01:07:36plan and playing a good game.

01:07:38It, and look, I think there's parts of both.

01:07:41I do think, especially after he got hit a few times coming off that

01:07:45wrist injury, Burrow got very tentative, but I, do you guys feel differently

01:07:51about Joe Burrow coming out of that game?

01:07:52Like, I don't, I still think he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

01:07:55He needs to be more aggressive.

01:07:57I think he was a little afraid to get hit and that could be a problem.

01:08:00But I, you know, people are not like, Oh, Burrow confirmed fraud, whatever.

01:08:04Like, I don't think it was that kind of game.

01:08:07I don't think he's a fraud, but I do think that there's

01:08:11Bengals fans should be cautious.

01:08:13So I was talking to Ben baby, ESPN's Bengals reporter.

01:08:16He mentioned in camp, a storyline that people weren't really talking about

01:08:19and he didn't really want to run with until it kind of carried over into

01:08:22games was the fact that Burrow wasn't throwing downfield and he thought it

01:08:25did have to do with the wrist injury.

01:08:27And you're saying he's pretty conservative from what we're used to

01:08:29with Burrow, so I don't know anything about wrist injuries.

01:08:32I don't know what he's going through.

01:08:33I don't know what the timetable is before people feel comfortable.

01:08:36We all know that Joe Burrow is a good quarterback, but injuries are injuries

01:08:40and injuries do affect careers.

01:08:42And this is a guy who's gotten hurt a lot.

01:08:43So I would just say if I was a Bengals fan, I would be, I would be wary.

01:08:49I wouldn't, you know, be afraid for Burrow, but I would say, you know,

01:08:52I got to see some kind of progress in him getting better.

01:08:55Brian, my dad originally say no, because they seem

01:08:59like they always start slow and he figures it out.

01:09:01But the injury is definitely something new that they've

01:09:04never had to deal with like this.

01:09:05So, and I think, I don't know if the broadcast mentioned it or they showed

01:09:09it, like he seemed to be flexing it at times, even on the sideline, like

01:09:12it was kind of bothering him.

01:09:14And maybe that's just first game back, but yeah, like injuries are injuries

01:09:17and they can impact your career, especially when it's your throwing

01:09:20wrist for a quarterback, so that's definitely something to kind of

01:09:24watch going forward with them.

01:09:25Yeah.

01:09:26Wouldn't, wouldn't worry about him as a quarterback alone.

01:09:28The injuries are something that's clearly a storyline here.

01:09:31He had surgery.

01:09:32He had all off season and it's still bothering him.

01:09:35And that's tough.

01:09:35You mentioned it, Brian.

01:09:36He was flexing.

01:09:37Um, and somebody, I think it might've been Zoe.

01:09:39Alex on 98, five said pregame, he was trying out like multiple

01:09:43gloves on his throwing hand to see what felt most comfortable.

01:09:47So if you're dealing with that in week one, to have to do that 17 games in a

01:09:51row, playing games every single week will be interesting.

01:09:53And on the downfield stuff, you mentioned Taylor.

01:09:55I wonder too, how much that changes when T Higgins is back in the game plan.

01:09:59And you can kind of use both those guys, him and chase and, you

01:10:01know, add levels to this thing.

01:10:03Um, and even if your wrist is bothering you, you might say, Hey,

01:10:06effort, I'm going to give this guy a chance downfield instead of having to,

01:10:09to need a one in somewhere a little bit more.

01:10:11So, um, again, it's not, I'm not worried about Joe borrows, you know,

01:10:16the mentality of playing quarterback.

01:10:17I just think that he's dealing with something again, and that, that

01:10:20stinks if you're a Bengals fan.

01:10:22Yeah.

01:10:22I think it was the absence of Higgins as much as anything else, as well as

01:10:25the Marius Mims, the tackle they took in the first round, uh, with

01:10:28Trent Brown stepping in for him.

01:10:30You know, maybe you want to get burrow with sports psychologists.

01:10:32If I'm the Bengals, the real concern is Zach Taylor.

01:10:35And I don't mean this to disparage Gerard Mayo, but the reality is this is a

01:10:38guy that's coaching his first game and both, all three of his coordinators

01:10:42are in that role for the first time.

01:10:45And if you're Zach Taylor, you got freaking pants to buy a bunch of rookies.

01:10:49I mean that, and again, I don't mean like Gerard.

01:10:51That's not to say I don't think of highly of Gerard Mayo as a coach, but.

01:10:55You'd expect a guy coaching in his first game versus the guy that's been

01:10:59doing it for four or five years.

01:11:01And when do you think, and when, right, who do you think is going

01:11:04to have the advantage there?

01:11:05He used a really bad timeout at one point, it was that ridiculous

01:11:09challenge that should never have happened.

01:11:11And I know they technically won the challenge, but they should have taken

01:11:14the time out of way for it being stupid.

01:11:16Um, just the, the play calling was, was all over the place.

01:11:21If I'm the Bengals or if you, let me put it this way.

01:11:25I'll, I will tailor to these people that I can't stand the tomato can people.

01:11:30I can't believe the same people who bitched and moaned all offseason

01:11:33about the Patriots are going to go.

01:11:35Are now sitting here bringing back the tomato can argument.

01:11:37Like, do you hear yourselves cater to those people for a second?

01:11:42It's not Joe Burrow.

01:11:44It's Zach Taylor.

01:11:45It's the coach.

01:11:46They don't want to go there.

01:11:47Cause all these people are still upset.

01:11:48Belichick's no longer here and don't want to admit Gerard Mayo

01:11:51could outcoach somebody, but he did Gerard Mayo, absolutely

01:11:54outcoach Zach Taylor on Sunday.

01:11:56100%.

01:11:58And if you want to minimize the Bengals at all, it's not the

01:12:00quarterback, it's the coach.

01:12:02Cause he was bad in that game.

01:12:03He was really bad in one area in particular.

01:12:06And when I say coach, that also means coaching staff as a whole on both

01:12:09sides, the Patriots coaching staff outcoached the Bengals coaching staff.

01:12:14One place that really, really, really shown through was on special teams.

01:12:19And they have that first play of the game.

01:12:21Dell Pettis moves early on the kickoff.

01:12:23And you're like, Oh boy, here we go again.

01:12:25After that.

01:12:26And I don't say it's pick on Dell Pettis, but like it's kind of a stark

01:12:29transition because after that masterclass, that's the word I've

01:12:33been using him to keep using it.

01:12:34Special teams masterclass in every single phase, they wanted the kickoffs

01:12:39to go through the end zone and noise the crap out of me.

01:12:41I want to see these returns, but that's a strategy.

01:12:43They executed it.

01:12:44The kickoff return.

01:12:46That's a lot to handle.

01:12:47First time.

01:12:47These things are like really real and it, and it worked.

01:12:51Um, the punt, obviously the punt game was great.

01:12:54Bryce Beringer picked off.

01:12:55We left up, uh, picked up.

01:12:57We left off the summer.

01:12:58Brennan Schooler was getting right down the field.

01:13:01We saw Joe Cardona force a fumble.

01:13:03They, they, Charlie Jones really had no clue what he was looking at because

01:13:06it's, you're trying to set something up on the return.

01:13:08Charlie Jones was lost looking at whatever the Patriots are throwing at him.

01:13:11Pun return was fine.

01:13:12It Reco was, uh, or Rico, the, the Bengals punter was great.

01:13:16And he, he actually had a great game and flipped the field a

01:13:19few times and a few touchbacks.

01:13:20But there was one returned by Marcus Jones.

01:13:22He didn't have a ton of room to work with, but he was able to still pick up

01:13:2410 yards at a crucial point in the game.

01:13:27So, so this, if this team's going to win, if this team's going to win,

01:13:31this is how they're going to have to win.

01:13:32They're going to have to do it on the margins.

01:13:34They're going to have to find hidden yardage and be better at areas of the

01:13:37game that other teams maybe don't focus on that special teams.

01:13:41They don't win on Sunday without that kind of high level special

01:13:45team's performance, uh, Brian.

01:13:47That looked like a prime Patriots, Belichick special

01:13:50team's performance right there.

01:13:51They were awesome.

01:13:52And I don't, did you even mention Joey Sly making three field goals or

01:13:56how nice is it to not have to like hold your breath on a 32 yard?

01:14:00Right?

01:14:00Like I know they were all 30 yarders, I think, but just easy.

01:14:04They went in, they went in and it was nice and easy right through the middle.

01:14:08Like no stress and nine points.

01:14:10That's huge in that, that low scoring game.

01:14:12So that, it was a really good performance from that unit.

01:14:15Uh, you mentioned Brendan schooler.

01:14:16Like that was a guy who maybe at the end of last year, we started

01:14:19having some questions, a lot of penalties and some missed tackles.

01:14:22He was awesome.

01:14:23Like three, I think he had three tackles and he was right in someone

01:14:27else's face, uh, on a fair catch.

01:14:29Like we've been in and out of the sidelines at times.

01:14:32He, he was amazing, you know, uh, credit to Joe Cardona getting down

01:14:35there, uh, kind of an unheralded position, but gets down there and make a play.

01:14:39So that whole unit, uh, as a whole was just very impressive and kind of Jeremy

01:14:43Sprinter's, uh, debut as a coordinator there as well.

01:14:47Taylor.

01:14:48So kind of talking about the Zach Taylor thing.

01:14:50One thing, Dan Orlovsky touched on this.

01:14:52He kind of said they were conservative and they're a little soft.

01:14:55And even Mike, when we were talking to Joe Goodbury, how he mentioned

01:14:58they always run from a shotgun, not a lot of under center stuff.

01:15:00And we know we're not a very good run team.

01:15:03Look at the chiefs, look at the bills.

01:15:05What have they tried to do in recent seasons?

01:15:08Get an offensive line that could run the ball, get under center and pound

01:15:11the rock so that their superstar quarterbacks didn't have to put the

01:15:15game on their shoulders all the time.

01:15:17That's winning football.

01:15:19Having a great quarterback obviously allows you to do other

01:15:21things and you can pass more.

01:15:23At the end of the day, this is a game about physicality.

01:15:26No team wants to get punched in the mouth play after play after play.

01:15:30These are human beings.

01:15:31Eventually you get tired, you get discouraged.

01:15:34Like that's, that's football.

01:15:35All the cliches they're there for a reason.

01:15:36This is a, this is a gladiator sport.

01:15:39And the fact that the bangles, like that was one of the biggest reasons

01:15:41I thought that the Patriots can win.

01:15:43Obviously T Higgins and Jamar Chase's situations were a big part of it, but

01:15:47I'm just like the bangles don't really scare me outside of their passing attack.

01:15:51And the Patriots, if you're a one dimensional team, you're not going to

01:15:53do much against the Patriots defense.

01:15:55Anytime we see them on their heels, it's like the dolphins where the game is

01:15:59close and the dolphins can still run into a, just basically has to not mess up.

01:16:03And obviously there've been times where the offense kind of screwed them as well,

01:16:06but that was really one of my biggest takeaways was with Gerard Mayo.

01:16:09If people keep saying he's a player's coach, the reason he pushes back against

01:16:12it is because players coach kind of implies that you let the players run things.

01:16:15And like, you're a little soft on them.

01:16:17That's not the case.

01:16:18He even mentioned after the game, he's like, don't get mad at us this week when

01:16:21like you're running and we're hard on you because we want you to get better.

01:16:24Like that's the stuff that bill did, but obviously I think Mayo is probably

01:16:27going to have a bit of a softer, more empathetic touch, but I mean, seeing

01:16:31the comparison between these two guys, the way that this game was coached and

01:16:35handled, it makes me more excited about Gerard Mayo, because this is not some

01:16:39guy who's going to be happy with a win.

01:16:41Who's going to be complacent.

01:16:42He wants to punish teams.

01:16:44He wants to be the aggressor in all these matchups.

01:16:47And when you go up against a playoff team where it's like, yeah, you can win with

01:16:50finesse, but you're not going to win against the Patriots, even when they

01:16:53don't have much of a passing attack.

01:16:54So, and then the special teams obviously were fantastic as well.

01:16:57And being able to get impact plays, not even not negatives, not even just

01:17:01moderate, you know, success or whatever, but really making plays.

01:17:05I thought that was awesome.

01:17:06So yeah, I'm just, I'm talking about, I'm getting more fired up, man.

01:17:09The Gerard Mayo era off to a very exciting start.

01:17:11He's not a player's coach.

01:17:12No victory.

01:17:13Monday's out here.

01:17:14No way.

01:17:15He was like, he was pissed that that got brought up.

01:17:17Yeah.

01:17:18Better work to do one game.

01:17:20Yeah, right.

01:17:21That was good.

01:17:23Uh, I guess any final thoughts here before I do have one more special team

01:17:26side and we'll do final thoughts to wrap it up a quick check in on the punter

01:17:29league, all four of these guys, one, I said, I set the, I set the scoring.

01:17:39Like, I mean, I, we, me and Brian had the last picks.

01:17:44People say, Oh, all the CLNS guys.

01:17:46They think that there's some collusion in there.

01:17:48Yes.

01:17:48There was a blocked punt that led to me winning seven to negative 11, but

01:17:53even without that, I still wouldn't want it would have been a seven to four.

01:17:56So Brian got lucky.

01:17:58Tommy Townsend had a block punch on his bench.

01:18:00Him and Taylor were the highest scores this week.

01:18:02Mike won at the last second.

01:18:04One to negative one.

01:18:06Um, yeah, good.

01:18:08Did you, did anyone are sneaky?

01:18:12Yeah.

01:18:12So it doesn't score the fair catches till the game's entirely over.

01:18:16So unless you're watching the game, you don't really know how many points you

01:18:19have, um, the whole thing's ridiculous.

01:18:21And I had a ton of fun with that this week.

01:18:22I don't know about you guys.

01:18:24Yeah, it was awesome.

01:18:25But yeah, I was up nine to one and it looked over and, you know, Barth, you

01:18:30were saying I was building monsters over here, like Billy Oh, and then I wake up

01:18:34Monday morning and check it.

01:18:35It's like nine to eight and I'm like, what the hell happened?

01:18:38But I, I still won.

01:18:39So, um, but yeah, I was lucky it didn't come down to my bench.

01:18:43Cause Tommy Townsend had negative 14 or something, but, uh, good, good,

01:18:48good week one from the boys.

01:18:50I just glitched out, but Ryan Stonehouse had negative 14.

01:18:53Did we see that?

01:18:55Yeah.

01:18:55Cause he had a pump.

01:18:56Yeah.

01:18:56That's insane.

01:18:58No fake puns.

01:18:59So nobody got the 15 point bonus.

01:19:01Uh, any final thoughts on the Patriots before we move on here?

01:19:04Uh, no, I wouldn't, it's not even a Patriots, but I honestly just scrolled

01:19:07past and I thought, um, uh, Jordan Mason for the 49ers having a great game and

01:19:13then having the ruin because people just had to get the information out of him

01:19:17about when he was going to start.

01:19:19That sucked, man.

01:19:20That was, that's really been upsetting me.

01:19:22That poor guy, like no one expected it.

01:19:24He has a monster game and then he's pissed off because he thought he screwed up.

01:19:28I'm sorry.

01:19:28That was so off track, but like,

01:19:31as somebody who lost in fantasy, because I had Christian

01:19:35McCaffrey in the lineup.

01:19:36I don't blame Jordan Mason, but it does stink that if they did know Friday,

01:19:41that that wasn't reported because I could have picked up Jordan Mason.

01:19:44I could have started somebody else.

01:19:45Now I go back and forth on this as I do with pretty much everything where on one

01:19:50hand, it's a fan's league, right?

01:19:52So this information should be available.

01:19:54They shouldn't be hiding things because they they're in bed with the sports

01:19:57betting leagues, their fantasy football is massive.

01:20:00And when this stuff happens, it stinks.

01:20:01But at the same time, why do we need to know if Christian McCaffrey is

01:20:05actually ready on Friday versus Sunday?

01:20:06That's game plan.

01:20:07That's strategy.

01:20:08That's like, and yes, there are rules in place that you have to abide by them.

01:20:12But if they did know on Friday as a Christian McCaffrey owner, I kind

01:20:17of wish I knew that on Friday.

01:20:19Well, let's remember there's, there's other elements here on, in addition

01:20:23to the fantasy sports community, there's a sports betting community, right?

01:20:26And they're obviously tied in with the networks, but if I keep talking

01:20:29about that, I'm pretty sure my camera's going to shut off.

01:20:31So, um, shout out Sean Sharania.

01:20:34But anyway, uh, we'll wrap it up there.

01:20:37Uh, Patriots daily.

01:20:39We'll be back with another show tomorrow.

01:20:40I'm guessing today we're actually doing our first film breakdown.

01:20:45We're going to be talking about Jacoby, Raimondre, Gonzo, Keon White.

01:20:48Going to be a really fun show.

01:20:50I'm going to be live.

01:20:51So you guys can comment if we're like breaking it down and

01:20:53you want to know anything else.

01:20:54We'll try to provide as much context as we can, but I'm super fired up about it.

01:20:57We've been trying to figure out how exactly to do this.

01:21:00Um, I wasn't able to do a ton of film reviews last year because halfway

01:21:03through the year, John was like, no one wants to know.

01:21:05No one cares.

01:21:06Let's just get to the news.

01:21:07Cause at that point we were basically moving on to next year.

01:21:09So yeah, it's going to be a fun episode.

01:21:114 PM.

01:21:12Stay tuned.

01:21:134 PM.

01:21:15All right.

01:21:15And, uh, me and Brian, we'll be back with our game preview on Thursday.

01:21:19I think just with, with next week being a short week, the plan kind of right now.

01:21:23And, and I mean, this will be flexible.

01:21:25So follow us on Twitter.

01:21:27You can see our, um, you can see our handles down there on the bottom.

01:21:30I think the plan right now with the short week coming up is to do the next

01:21:33crossover after the jets game.

01:21:36So after the Thursday night game, so we'll, we'll still have our regular

01:21:39schedules, uh, between now and then, but, uh, that's the plan as things stand right

01:21:44now. So, uh, until the next one for Taylor cows, for Brian Heinz, for my

01:21:47Catholic, I'm Alex Barth.

01:21:49Thanks for tuning in.

01:21:50We'll talk to you next time.

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