Buffalo rallied from a 14-0 deficit to secure a 24-21 victory over the New England Patriots on Sunday. CLNS Media's Taylor Kyles and SI's Mike Kadlick break down the game on the latest LIVE episode of Patriots Daily.
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00:00I am joined by Robert Griffin, the third James White field. Yes, mean it times. All right.
00:11So first play, we're going to look at second into one of the Patriots first offensive plays.
00:18What's going on everyone? Mike Catholic, Taylor Kyle's here back with another episode of the
00:22Patriots daily podcast powered by prize picks, powered by game time and powered by another
00:27Patriots loss. 24, 21, a close one. As you saw last night, that puts them now at three
00:33and 12 on the 2024 season. If you watch Patriots postgame, we did our rapid reaction last night.
00:40No notes, no film, no stats to back it up. So that's why we're coming back to you again
00:45on this Monday afternoon to take you through it a little bit of added context and quotes
00:50from players and really what went wrong ultimately in the Patriots loss.
00:55So before we get into all of it Taylor, before we kind of get into the nitty gritty, I know
00:58we're going to talk about turnovers, run defense, a little bit of Drake May here, and then the
01:03really stout, solid performance from the Patriots past defense against Josh Allen, at least
01:08through the air, but overall overarching thoughts from you now that we're, you know, coming
01:14up on 24 hours postgame, where you're at with this Patriots performance and really this
01:19Patriots team as you know, now we sit here and you know, almost Christmas Eve, Christmas
01:22Eve.
01:23I mean, still no controversial comments from Gerard Mayo. That's a very nice start. So
01:28well done.
01:29A postgame, a postgame press conference last night, a day after press conference this morning,
01:34a radio hit with Greg Hill and nothing to talk about. We're, we're on a good track right
01:39now. Gerard Mayo, good. This is a good Christmas present for me and Taylor.
01:42Honestly, I would say if they won, it would have been like the perfect turnaround week,
01:46but actually because they lost, we get to see Gerard following that loss, how he feels.
01:50And I think a lot of the reason we haven't really seen him step on his toes or anything
01:53when he's talking or put his foot in his mouth is because I think his sentiment after this
01:57game was much different than it was after the Cardinals game, or even the Colts game,
02:01where those were kind of different losses where the Colts obviously was tough, but it
02:05felt like a bit of a collapse from the defense and you, especially the offense as well, obviously
02:10didn't do what it needed to do, but there were a lot of holes.
02:12And that was the game that you felt like they really should have won the Cardinals. I would
02:16say it was in a similar category where it was a winnable game and you just absolutely
02:20lay an egg and get blown out is tough to say, because if you look at the final score,
02:25it wasn't really a blowout, but they were never really in control of that game.
02:28It felt like anytime they made progress to maybe get back in late, then they obviously
02:33let up the two touchdowns later in the game.
02:35So those were different situations.
02:37The bills were a game that everybody thought you were going to get blown out.
02:40And I'm sure internally, they thought they had a good chance as long as they tighten
02:44things up.
02:45And we mentioned that too, that they did have a chance if they were fundamentally sound
02:49and if they didn't create negative plays and shoot themselves in the foot on offense,
02:52but they hadn't done that consistently in any recent games.
02:56So that wasn't something that we could expect of them.
02:58Now we did see a lot of improvement.
02:59The run defense was honestly a little bit better than I thought, but also that was because
03:03there was such a small sample size of it in the bad was still pretty bad offensively.
03:08I was a little less impressed with Drake Mays day.
03:10Honestly, I thought this was about statistically, it was his worst game since the dolphins.
03:14If you look at like he was more aggressive, but also obviously the efficiency kind of
03:18shot down.
03:19And then even looking at the tape, I think you can really see there were some misses.
03:22We'll highlight a lot of those, but really we're going to go into the blitz because the
03:26bills blitz Drake may a ton more than he'd ever been blitz in the NFL before.
03:30But even when he wasn't blitzed, mostly it was good.
03:33He got the ball out on time, made the right reads, but there were also those two kind
03:37of weird misses on out routes to Hunter Henry, one in the red area, one on the third down
03:41where they ultimately have to pump the ball.
03:42And then there was another one, obviously the case on booty.
03:44He was talking about the dig where he threw it in the dirt, weird miss.
03:48And then also in the game, he's rolling out and throws one across his body and it's like,
03:52all right, you know what?
03:53I guess it was kind of cancel out.
03:54You'd like both, but I'm not going to be too stressed about that, but it wasn't the best
03:59day from the offense either.
04:01But I guess I came away still optimistic thinking this was, no, but we were like, because it
04:10wasn't the disaster we thought it was going to be where you hang your hat on a few things
04:15and to wrap it all up again, Gerard Mayo said he's proud of his guys.
04:20I think that he knew that they came out.
04:21Even Josh Allen said like, that's not a team that is what the record says they are.
04:25They're very competitive, brought up the close games obviously, but it did seem like there
04:29was a genuine level of respect from Josh Allen.
04:31A lot of that was due to the coverage and all the issues they gave him.
04:34So yeah, I mean, obviously far from a perfect game, plenty of things where you're saying,
04:39all right, if I want to get on this Gerard Mayo bandwagon, I see it.
04:44Maybe you just get some more talent, some more help on the coaching staff and the outlook
04:47looks a lot better.
04:48But yeah.
04:49It's okay.
04:50It was okay.
04:51Right.
04:52I'm with you.
04:53I think it's, it almost, I hate looking at this way, but it's kind of like more promising
04:57that it feels like the reason they lost was almost purely on execution and not necessarily
05:03coaching where I feel like there was a mix of that over the last few weeks where there
05:08was a lot of things you could point to on the coaching side was like, well, why did
05:10this happen?
05:11Is it a coaching issue?
05:13It really felt like execution, not that that's any better, but it almost took a little bit
05:17of like, okay, Gerard Mayo may at least got these guys to play.
05:22There was some question marks, obviously the punt that we talked about last night and what
05:25have you, and some different things of that nature.
05:27But it was really, you know, drives in the second half offensively, and then a couple
05:33plays defensively that really ended up allowing them to not win this game and obviously lose
05:3824, 21 final score by three.
05:40But again, a little bit better coaching wise, they continue to get knocked down and get
05:46right back up.
05:47And there's now been three pretty pure examples of that.
05:50I would say they lose to the Jets on that Thursday night game.
05:52They come back fight in the following week.
05:54They go to Jacksonville and they get spanked.
05:56Mayo calls them soft and rebound.
05:58And then this one, it felt like this was, you know, the next time where they come off
06:02the buy and it was a disaster out in Arizona.
06:05And then they, yes, they lose yesterday.
06:07Don't, don't get me wrong.
06:08There's no moral victories here, but yesterday felt kind of as close to a moral victory as
06:13you can get, where you really fought against one of the best teams in the AFC.
06:17So that's, that's kind of where we're at.
06:20So let's get into the game itself.
06:22And we'll start right off the bat with what Gerard Mayo said last night and kind of comparing
06:27this now to, you know, Bill Belichickian where he's, he's doing better with the media.
06:32Like we just mentioned last night, it just felt like he kept saying, I got to look at
06:36the film.
06:37I got to look at the film.
06:38I'm not going to answer anything.
06:39Right.
06:40I think that was smart.
06:41It was smart.
06:42He didn't throw him throwing anybody out of the bus because he was able to, you know,
06:45say that.
06:46But then this morning he comes back and says, I watched the film and it's turnovers and
06:51it's run defense.
06:52And those are the two.
06:53Finally, he finally acknowledges the run defense is a problem.
06:56That was very nice.
06:57Yeah.
06:58So he does the right.
06:59He talks about the turnovers and he mentions the run defense.
07:01He says, those were really the two reasons why we lost this game.
07:04He also talks about Antonio Gibson potentially taking over for Mondra Stevenson as a starter
07:10because reminder continues to turn the football over since it's still a possibility we're
07:15behind Ramon Dre.
07:16He does a lot of good things.
07:17Unfortunately, the ball is just on the ground too much.
07:19So long story short, three turtles, three total turnovers, the interception just said
07:25the word turtle, three, three turtle turnovers, three total, one interception, one fumble
07:32by May, one fumble by Ramon Dre and they ended up being the difference in the game.
07:36So Taylor, take us through these turnovers a little bit more what you saw and just how
07:41I don't want to even want to say how egregious they were, but let's talk about the turnovers
07:45and kind of see where those were at.
07:46Yeah.
07:47So obviously Antonio Gibson could take over as a lead back, had one of his least effective
07:51games in a while.
07:52I will say that a lot of that was because the run blocking wasn't very good at times
07:56and he was getting just hammered when he was still in the backfield.
07:59This isn't really about the run blocking today.
08:01It's not one of the main storylines.
08:02We're going to focus on the turnovers.
08:04So first order of the game actually was from Antonio.
08:07I'm sorry.
08:08The first fumble was from Antonio Gibson tries to cut it back again, gets hit at the line
08:11of scrimmage, unfortunately gets stripped there.
08:14And this was an issue I will say for the Patriots for a while.
08:17And we'll see that towards the end of this compilation.
08:19They have fumbled in all but two of their games this entire season, week five into Miami
08:25when they were home and then week seven in London against the Jaguars.
08:29And they've had multiple turnovers in three straight games.
08:33I'm sorry.
08:34Multiple fumbles in three straight games.
08:36They've been flirting with disaster.
08:37And it's a big reason that Alex Van Pelt's been saying, you know, ball security, ball
08:41security.
08:42I don't really think it was so much the interceptions from Drake May.
08:44I think he understands and Drodd Mayo's acknowledged when asked about Drake May's turnovers.
08:49A lot of these are just different situations.
08:51I know he said that the throw was a bad play by Drake May or a bad throw, but I also think
08:55that's why Alex Van Pelt is the offensive head coach because I think that's the second
09:00time that I've disagreed with how Mayo kind of saw what was happening and think it's because
09:04he comes from a defensive mindset where there's really not an excuse versus May who's saying,
09:08no, I thought the route was going to turn out differently.
09:10But again, it's not really the interceptions that are worrisome turnover wise.
09:14It's more of these fumbles.
09:15They happen every single week.
09:18This was the one for Ramondre Stevenson that ultimately ended up costing him when he puts
09:22it on the ground, takes the handoff, has two hands on the ball, but still gets it punched
09:26out and ripped out.
09:27So one of the hands ends up coming off.
09:29Patriots can't recover, even though Ben Brown's right there.
09:32They lose that one.
09:33Obviously, that's a big game changer.
09:35Now the interception to Austin Hooper.
09:38This is another one where I think that Drake May compared it to the Colts touchdown, where
09:43it was a little bit flatter on the out breaking route.
09:45He just puts it up for Austin Hooper, gets the touchdown.
09:48This is another man covered situation where May thought he was going to get the same thing.
09:52But you can see once Hooper starts breaking his route, Kendrick Bourne is in the exact
09:57same area.
09:58And I think that Bourne slows up on the play because he wants to try to give Hooper a chance
10:03to get over top of him, knowing that if he keeps going straight, they're just going to
10:07end up running into each other.
10:09But because Kendrick Bourne slows up one, he gets blown up completely, which Mayo said
10:13should have been a penalty.
10:14I think it was incidental contact.
10:15As you can see, it's Hooper's defender who runs into him because he's in chase mode.
10:19So it was kind of weird for Mayo.
10:21I don't think that should have been a flag, but even more still, because Drake may acknowledge
10:25he probably could have looked off the safety more.
10:27But if Hooper's body is in between him and the safety, better chance that it's at least
10:31broken up worst case scenario, if not caught.
10:34But because Hooper had to angle over top of Kendrick Bourne instead of just being able
10:38to break normally, I think if he had, he would have been closer to the pylon, like what Drake
10:42May thought.
10:43But when Drake May saw it, he was like, oh, maybe Hooper thought he was supposed to go
10:46to the back pylon.
10:47I don't think that's what happened.
10:48I think it's because they were in the same area.
10:50I don't know what the explanation is for that.
10:52And I don't want to get on Kendrick Bourne if I don't know for sure.
10:55This is like the second week in a row where receivers who are often like guilty of making
11:00mistakes up in the same area as Austin Hooper.
11:04Typically you'd say logically Hooper's the issue, but it seems like every time it's a
11:07young player or again, one who's mistake prone.
11:10And as we know, every week it seems like Kendrick Bourne ends up apologizing because he was
11:13in the wrong place.
11:15Now we have obviously the swing screen where we have the fumble recovered for a touchdown.
11:21Yes, you can absolutely critique the play calling and say, you should not be going backwards
11:25when you're this close to your goal line because of exactly what happens on this play.
11:30But most frustrating for me, even more than the play call was the execution.
11:33Because last night I said, I thought this had the chance to be a big play because the
11:37safety to the screen side was rotating back.
11:40So they should have had a numbers advantage with basically Romandre just having to make
11:43the safety miss.
11:45But instead Demontre Jacobs misses his cut block, which this is a play they ran against
11:50the Titans.
11:51He makes the cut block, but Drake throws behind Romandre.
11:54Romandre takes his eyes off the ball, loses it, and then ends up recovering, but he still
11:58loses two yards.
11:59Here, Drake, I think he puts it still in a good spot.
12:02Gerard Mayo said that the biggest issue was Jacobs missing the cut block, but also acknowledged
12:07that Romandre probably should have run this a bit flatter.
12:11So it's not behind the line of scrimmage and that's something that you brought up yesterday.
12:15Very good point.
12:16So it wasn't on Drake.
12:17It was more on Romandre.
12:18Romandre, this ball hits him in the hands, can't catch it, gets blown up again because
12:22he knows that there's an edge defender about to blow him up.
12:25May acknowledged it.
12:26Mayo, I think, acknowledged it.
12:28That's a tough position to be in, but this close to your end zone, my guy, I'm sorry.
12:31You've got to take the big hit.
12:34And then it just doesn't feel like there's quite enough hustle from the Patriots players
12:37either to recover it.
12:38That was pretty disappointing.
12:40And then we'll dive into this one later.
12:41Sorry, at the end of that last clip, it kind of looks like some of the Bills didn't know
12:46if they should recover the ball.
12:48Yeah, that was kind of weird.
12:49It was like a special team's play where sometimes guys are like, am I supposed to touch this
12:53or do I just have to?
12:54I thought the same thing.
12:55But when you got two guys, there was the second one who was like, no, no, get on it.
13:00That was kind of funny.
13:01But also, again, you'd like to see more hustle from the actual Patriots players.
13:04And then Drake May dropping a snap.
13:07I think maybe he just couldn't feel his hands or something.
13:09You can see he's trying to get a grip on the ball when it happens.
13:13And then as he's doing that, it kind of falls out of his hands.
13:15We'll break that down a little bit more later, but that was another play that was exacerbated
13:20by the fact that it looks like Mike and when he doesn't pick up a blitzer and Jordan Phillips
13:25immediately splits Leighton Robinson and Darian Lowe.
13:29Those guys get into the backfield.
13:30So May doesn't even have time to recover it.
13:31And again, this is not the first time.
13:34Last week we had two fumbles because according to Scott Peters, Ben Brown snapped it off
13:37of the towel on his butt.
13:39I didn't really see that, to be honest.
13:40Both times I didn't.
13:41The towel was to the side, but whatever.
13:43Then obviously to Mario Douglas because Kendrick Moore misses his block.
13:46He gets blown up last week.
13:48Another one of Ben Brown's fumbles ends up on the ground.
13:51And then the game before that, you also had multiple turnovers because Austin Hooper gets
13:55stripped by Zaire Franklin.
13:56And then you've got Ramon Dre Stevenson with yet another fumble.
14:00He now has eight fumbles on the season tied with Lamar Jackson for the most in the NFL.
14:06Unsustainable level of play from the Patriots.
14:08We obviously know they're not good enough to be turning the ball over once, much less
14:12three times.
14:14The interception, I feel like that's less a decision thing, more of an execution thing
14:18still.
14:19But refine the routes facing.
14:20That doesn't bother me quite as much because that's been such a consistent issue.
14:23I feel like it's just Kendrick Moore and younger guys just missed so much time.
14:28Maybe that's still lingering at this part of the season.
14:30It's frustrating.
14:31I'm very curious to know how they feel about it internally, if it's something they think
14:34is actually fixable for the season or whether it's just something where it's like, hey,
14:38the mistakes get made and you correct them afterwards or what have you.
14:41But yeah, these turnovers, man, they can't keep happening if they want to win their next
14:45two games.
14:46I don't care if Josh Allen's playing in week 18 or not.
14:48It's just it's not a sustainable way of play, obviously, to 100%.
14:51It's the one thing where now, look, I think Drake Bay is playing clearly much better football
14:57than Caleb Williams is right now in Chicago.
14:59But when you look at like, and this is a little bit of box score watching on my part, because
15:03I have not watched a ton of Chicago Bears football.
15:06But the one thing I do know is that Caleb Williams hasn't thrown an interception since
15:12like week five in like eight straight weeks.
15:15Now, their offense isn't as productive and that may be just him being too protective
15:20of the football, right?
15:21And there's times where he's sped up and so he just drops it, doesn't put the football
15:24in harm's way.
15:25But on the flip side, May's now thrown an interception in seven straight games.
15:29Again, not all of them are his fault.
15:31It is a little bit of box score watching, but you would like to see a happy medium here
15:34where he still plays as efficient as he's playing, but they're not putting the ball
15:38in harm's way as much.
15:39Now, again, you broke it down, there's a little, you know, Hooper gets cut off a bit, the ball
15:43gets underthrown there, and it's just nightmare on nightmare.
15:46But at some point, you're going to want to see them, not just May, but the entire offense,
15:50obviously, Stephenson included, could be on the brink of losing his job here as the starter,
15:54at least in the short term, because you can't win football games that way.
15:58You lose the turnover battle like that.
16:00The only, I don't know if you were able to watch some of the one o'clock games yesterday,
16:05where the commanders lost the turnover battle five to one against the Eagles and somehow
16:09still pulled it out.
16:10That doesn't happen.
16:11That's not how you win football games.
16:13Yeah.
16:14So outside of that, it's pretty remarkable to be able to win a game when you lose the
16:18turnover battle.
16:19The other piece, Taylor, that Gerard Mayo mentioned as a reason to lose the game was
16:23run defense.
16:24So let's talk about that.
16:25James Cook, 11 carries, 100 yards, averages 9.1 yards of pop.
16:30As a whole, the team, 28 carries, 172 yards, and 6.1 yards per attempt.
16:37Not good enough on either side, with James Cook in general, or from even a guy in Ty
16:42Johnson who you mentioned before the game.
16:44He also gets five yards of carry in this one.
16:46They contain Josh Allen on the ground, but they still let everybody else run wild.
16:51So what happened?
16:52What are your thoughts on it?
16:53I know you said that you weren't as down on it as you were last night, but tell me why.
16:58Yeah.
17:00More because of the volume.
17:01It just felt like it was just every single run.
17:03There were some runs they had that they were successfully able to contain the running backs,
17:07but it didn't happen nearly often enough, and that's the main point.
17:10Obviously, the big run is going to kind of change these stats, but it's not the first
17:14time the Patriots have given up this crazy long run.
17:17So when you look at these stats, it only goes so far when you're talking about James Cook.
17:21I think it was like 47, 46 yard run.
17:23So one, we talked about it last night.
17:25For whatever reason, Joe Brady did not commit to the run game, felt more like a Brian Dayball.
17:31Not Kevin Stefanski.
17:32What's the Browns?
17:33A Kyle Dorsey kind of game, or they just lean way too much on Josh Allen, despite the fact
17:40the run game is working.
17:41So it was the sixth fewest runs from running backs.
17:44I didn't even include Josh Allen in this except for at the bottom where I just kind of talked
17:47about him separately.
17:48But when you only look at the running backs, they didn't get a ton of runs against, but
17:53yards per rush allowed.
17:54The second most allowed.
17:56Also yards after contact per rush, second most.
17:58Both of those were only behind the Texans game against Joe Mixon.
18:02Yards before contact per rush, fourth most.
18:04Obviously, those two things combined are usually going to lead to one of your worst days overall,
18:08where not only were the Bills getting yards because their offense was blocking them well,
18:13and also I want to give credit to James Cook, who has outstanding vision, was able to manipulate
18:17some guys up front and create some of his own lanes for positive yardage.
18:21We've talked about that in other weeks, like Tony Pollard, Tank Bixby, James Conner.
18:25Those guys are just very good at creating some of their own lanes.
18:28But also when you're not making tackles, that's going to be tough, especially when you have
18:32the highest missed tackles per rush rate in the entire season for the Patriots.
18:37So a disappointing performance just when you look at the stats.
18:40Although Josh Allen held the 30 yards, that was the second most for a quarterback against
18:44New England this season.
18:45The most was Anthony Richardson, but it wasn't the same thing where it felt like Allen was
18:48getting all the yards that he needed to whenever he needed to.
18:52I think they did a much better job keeping him under wraps.
18:54So kudos there, but didn't do a great job defending the running backs.
18:58And when I really looked at why, one, the front needs to be better, right?
19:03Then you're also saying, all right, it's Jeremiah Farms, right?
19:05It's Sione Takitaki, it's Christian Ellis.
19:09Like those guys are making mistakes.
19:11They're not supposed to be in these roles anyway, ideally.
19:13Takitaki is, but we've talked about it.
19:15I just don't think he's in the shape that he wants to be.
19:18But the angles from the safeties were egregiously bad, where one, Kyle Duggar, has a chance
19:23to stop it for a minimal gain.
19:25He misses the tackle.
19:26Marte Mappu-
19:27He was limping that entire play.
19:28I'm sorry?
19:29He was limping that entire play.
19:30It looked like-
19:31It's why we've been saying, just shut the guy down.
19:33I will say, going downhill, if he can go on a straight line, he still blows guys up.
19:38He still is contributing in run defense.
19:40But when he's playing in space and has to move laterally, it's just ugly.
19:44And then you also add on top of that, the fact that Marte Mappu just took a couple of
19:48horrible angles.
19:49One on the touchdown, where we talked about me wanting him to be the free safety, right?
19:52I would love him in that DMACC role where he doesn't really have to go up against a
19:56lot of blockers, but he can just make plays in space.
19:59But when this happens, that's exactly why you don't play.
20:03Now I will say, we'll get into it later, I thought Marte Mappu had a good game overall.
20:07Just some really glaring mistakes that you could not ignore or even glaze over.
20:12As much as I want to say this is like a breakout game for him,
20:14it wasn't because he made so many mistakes.
20:16So one, he was late to recognize on one, take a bad angle on another.
20:20The Jalen Hawkins play was kind of tough,
20:22because the run did get outside Christian Ellis.
20:24There was a huge hole that Jalen Hawkins was trying to fill.
20:27And then James Cook speedy back, just bouncing outside, and
20:30really nobody could get to him.
20:31But I also was disappointed by some of the missed tackles,
20:34like you had the one from Kyle Duggar, have this one from Alex Austin.
20:37Anthony Jennings had a chance to make a stop in the backfield, couldn't.
20:40Jeremiah Farms, I'm sorry, this is actually Eric Johnson, I mislabeled it,
20:43my bad, but he should have made a tackle in the backfield.
20:45It was kind of tough, but he also doesn't.
20:48And that was the main thing for me, it's the pursuit angles and
20:50the poor tackling, which have been issues for weeks.
20:53And it's gotten to the point where I just don't really know how much more we can
20:56expect from this run defense.
20:58Now, fundamentally, there are things that could absolutely be better.
21:01When you talk about Devon Gottschall, sometimes he gets blown out of his gap.
21:04Not a ton, I feel like it's just more as like a wear and tear thing maybe.
21:09But really more often than not, he's standing his ground.
21:11I just like to see him disengage more consistently.
21:14Jelani Tabai wasn't terrible, but it does feel like sometimes he's trying to
21:17overcompensate for the fact that he's not really a Juwan Bentley type.
21:21And then when you look at the front, you've just got so
21:23many guys who are supposed to be rotational players or role players who are now
21:27pretty much starters who have roles that are bigger than what they should have had.
21:30And when I looked it up, I wanted to see, they have like 40 explosive runs allowed,
21:34which is almost double what they had through this point last season.
21:37So I'm thinking, okay, when's the last time they even gave up that many?
21:40Because we talked about a few years ago, the run defense had a ton of injuries and
21:43it just was not very good or a ton of guys out.
21:46It was the COVID year, 2020, where Dante Hightower opted out,
21:49Patrick Chung opted out, and there were some other guys that they were missing up
21:52front, that led to guys like Shalee Calhoun, Adam Butler,
21:56Therese Hall, a rookie, Anthony Jennings, who also played inside linebacker.
22:01And Juwan Bentley, in his first year starting,
22:04having to be regular players for the defense, that was the year,
22:08I think they allowed one fewer explosive run through 16 weeks or
22:1216 games than they have this season.
22:15So if you're looking for reasons, obviously, coaching can improve.
22:19And another thing for the Patriots was because of the COVID year,
22:21it kind of impacted coaching because they didn't get their players as long.
22:24And there was that whole hullabaloo, that was an issue.
22:27This year, you take hits because you don't have Bill Belichick,
22:30you don't have Steve Belichick.
22:32And obviously, there are other guys up front that you had to replace because Mayo
22:35is now the head coach, no longer the linebacker's coach.
22:37And Dante Hightower even acknowledged that he struggled early on as
22:40linebacker's coach and is still growing in the role.
22:42So the coaching deficit is obviously there, but also it is impossible
22:46to ignore the talent when you don't have Baltimore, your best player up front,
22:50Bentley, your best player at linebacker.
22:53And then Peppers and Duggar are either not playing or
22:55significantly limited by lower body injuries.
22:58So I just think it is what it is at this point.
23:01I can still be disappointed in it, but
23:02I don't see this improving by the end of the season.
23:04It does sort of, at this point, three and 12 injuries, Peppers,
23:09Duggar not playing right, like you said.
23:11And I talked shit last night about Mayo waving the white flag with the punt, but
23:16the run defense feels like a white flag where it's like, okay, you know what?
23:20It is, you tweeted it last night, it was exactly the way I felt.
23:23It is what it is at this point.
23:25Reset, recoup for next year, hopefully things are better.
23:29Another year, whether it's a different defensive coach,
23:33if they get rid of Covington, Covington gets another year under his belt and
23:37kind of can fix things up, but scheme-wise.
23:39And then at the same time, you get your healthy players back.
23:41Jawan Bentley and the trickle effect that that's gonna hopefully cause
23:44should be significant, so we'll see what happens there.
23:47But again, not good enough yesterday again, and
23:49one of the reasons why the Patriots lose Gerard Mayo even admits it.
23:52So we're gonna move on to Drake May, Drake May against the Blitz and
23:55talk about this good pass defense.
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25:43All right, let's talk about the rest of this Patriots game.
25:46Taylor, we're gonna save Drake May for last.
25:49We'll talk about our good friend Drake May towards the end.
25:51Let's keep it on the defense here, though.
25:54Another good thing, actually, the run defense is bad.
25:56The pass defense, solid.
25:57Josh Allen, you hold him to only 150, what?
26:01It's a night and day difference.
26:02Yeah, crazy, 100%.
26:04You hold Josh Allen to 154 yards in the air.
26:07He throws a touchdown.
26:08He also throws a costly interception, which, did you see-
26:12Costly for the Patriots.
26:13Costly for the Patriots because Marte Mapa, what are you doing?
26:18But did you see Dan Orlowski trying to defend Josh Allen today and saying that,
26:21like, everyone's trying to say that it wasn't an interception.
26:26It was just an arm punt.
26:27And he even said that it was a good decision to throw the football.
26:31Like, I get that at, you know, arm punt, right?
26:35It's third down, whatever.
26:37But somebody noted they were seven yards from field goal range.
26:40It was third and 16.
26:42But if you get 10 yards, then you set yourself up fourth and six,
26:45you can kick three points.
26:46So, to just chuck it in the air.
26:48And Orlowski's really going on this Josh Allen MVP narrative type thing
26:52and goes on and does that whole thing.
26:54But not a great decision from him.
26:57A worse decision for Marte Mapa to try and take it out.
27:00But regardless, a lot of man coverage, a lot of solid coverage in the back end.
27:03Patriots defense, at least through the past game, shines again.
27:06So, Taylor, take us through what you saw in this one from the Patriots secondary.
27:11Yeah, also the whole arm punt thing.
27:12I was like, okay, but Marte Mapa was also back there by himself.
27:16And yes, he did get tackled.
27:17But you don't know he's going to get tackled.
27:19And there was room.
27:19Like, if that one guy had missed, he had space to actually get a return off.
27:23And yeah, I think it's kind of ridiculous.
27:25I have to, actually, if I can find it, really.
27:28Go ahead, yeah.
27:29The NFL on CBS yesterday, first of all,
27:33they showed the graphic during the game of Drake May versus Josh Allen.
27:36And they did not put Josh Allen's interception on his stat line.
27:43It was like the end of the game, and there was just no interception there.
27:46And then, this, I want to try and find the tweet.
27:49It was the NFL on CBS.
27:50That is literal propaganda.
27:51Yep, okay, here it is.
27:53Propaganda, Taylor.
27:53I'm going to share my screen.
27:56Share screen, NFL on CBS.
28:02Read the caption of this tweet.
28:06Got it.
28:07Oh, sorry.
28:08Oh, no, go.
28:08You go.
28:09Okay, I got it.
28:10Josh Allen pins the Patriots inside the one with an arm punt.
28:13Like, what is that?
28:17You don't, like, who, like, no one made you tweet this.
28:20That's crazy.
28:21That is- You literally just didn't need to say anything.
28:23That is wild.
28:25That is MVP propaganda at its finest.
28:28To say that Josh Allen pinned them inside the one.
28:31Now, again, obviously, they're joking here.
28:34Like, it's, they're playing it up, but crazy nonsense.
28:38Anyway, Patriots pass defense solid, Taylor.
28:41Tell us why.
28:42You said it, not me.
28:43Anyway, I didn't say nothing.
28:47All right, so let's look at the stats.
28:49So, yeah, Patriots coverage was excellent.
28:52They played more man coverage
28:54than they had in almost any game this season.
28:56The only other time they played this many snaps of man coverage,
28:58I think it was 22, that was against Caleb Williams
29:01and the Bears back in week 10.
29:03And when receivers were, I'm sorry,
29:05when defensive backs were targeted,
29:06especially locked down.
29:08Kyle Duggar did allow four straight completions,
29:10but he had some big hits on those as well.
29:13I think a few of them were screens.
29:14One was that third and short
29:16where they decided to go cover zero.
29:18I don't know why the hell they did that.
29:19I hated the decision,
29:20but Duggar was actually pretty solid man coverage.
29:22Jonathan Jones back in the slot full-time
29:25for the first time in a couple seasons.
29:27He locked down Khalil Shakir, who was a good slot receiver.
29:30Josh Allen mentioned how he was undercutting routes
29:32and stuff, that was really impressive.
29:34Gonzo targeted twice in man coverage,
29:36didn't allow a completion.
29:37One of those was actually Marte Mapu's interception.
29:40The other one was a play where Amari Cooper
29:42tried to push off of him and like fully extended his arm.
29:45Gonzo, you know, what's the rule?
29:47You pull, you push?
29:49I pull.
29:50I pull.
29:51Tried to extend, Gonzo was like,
29:52nope, come right back here,
29:53I'm not going anywhere, and then broke it up.
29:56So Gonzo obviously locked down.
29:58Christian Ellis did allow one 17-yard conversion,
30:00but he also broke up a pass
30:02when he was targeted deep downfield
30:03on a Josh Allen scramble.
30:04Really good awareness to realize the ball was coming.
30:07Like we said yesterday, instead of just keeping running
30:09and kind of panicking like we saw that Bills linebacker,
30:12he kind of looks behind him to see if he can find the ball,
30:14but then just puts his arms up and slows down a little bit
30:17to try to get a break up.
30:18Really nice heads up play there.
30:20Then Marte Mapu only targeted a couple of times
30:23when he was in man coverage,
30:26got himself some pass breakups,
30:27and now we will go to the tape.
30:29Now, like we said, Marte Mapu,
30:30especially as a run defender,
30:32had a lot of things that he needed to fix.
30:35The angles and all that,
30:36also the interception where he gets it,
30:38takes it out of the end zone.
30:39Kind of funny because Jonathan Jones
30:41is the only like experienced defender here
30:44because around him are Christian Ellis,
30:46who's usually a special teamer,
30:47and then Isaiah Bolden, who barely plays defense.
30:50I saw last night was like, no one told him to get down.
30:53I'm like, yeah, because there was nobody around
30:55who probably had the awareness.
30:56Obviously coaching is a part of that.
30:58You need experienced players
30:59who probably just aren't thinking about that.
31:01Then Jonathan Jones comes over and is like,
31:02wait, why did he do that?
31:04And then Marte throws the ball
31:06because he's pissing himself for taking it out.
31:08So one thing I'll say about Marte Mapu,
31:11he cares a lot about his craft,
31:12and you might not really care about that.
31:14Why does it matter?
31:15When you have the ability to make the plays Marte does,
31:18and you care enough to try to get better and fix them,
31:20you still got to do it,
31:21and that's what we're waiting on.
31:23But every time he made a mistake,
31:24like he forced a fumble, got mad at himself,
31:26this kid cares, so-
31:28He's also someone who's known for his smarts
31:31as a fumble player.
31:32So I think when he makes a mistake like that,
31:34he's like, again, you see it on the film,
31:36he's pissed because he's like,
31:38what the F am I doing?
31:39Like, why did I do that?
31:40And he knows it instantly.
31:41Again, doesn't make it any better,
31:43but I hear it everyone say that.
31:44Eve Gerrard after the game was like,
31:45he knew immediately he F'd up basically, but still-
31:48He's like, some things are better left unsaid.
31:50He was more disappointed than anybody else was.
31:51And like, he was wearing the green dot.
31:53Like, this is a very smart kid, a good communicator.
31:56I think there may be an element of there's a lot going on,
31:59like, and that doesn't necessarily excuse missed angles
32:01and things like that.
32:02But I do wonder if maybe next off season,
32:04third year under his belt,
32:05knows whatever version of the playbook this is or whatever,
32:07can really just play faster
32:09and not look like he's thinking and making mistakes.
32:11But yeah, still like in man coverage,
32:13like I've talked about in that DMACC role,
32:15be rangy and be good in man coverage.
32:17He did that, the closing speed to get under
32:19the in-breaking route that he was targeted on
32:21to break that up.
32:22Also, a couple of blitzes where he was able to get pressure,
32:25helped J. R. Maya Farms get a sack
32:26because he came unblocked on a slot blitz.
32:29There was another play where he got some pressure on Al,
32:31I believe this is it,
32:32rotates down late on a play action.
32:35Josh Allen tries to get outside the pocket,
32:36can't because of Marte, really good call,
32:38really good play also by Marte Mapu
32:41to force the incompletion
32:42and then punching the ball out to get a fumble.
32:44Now, they weren't able to recover obviously,
32:46but still several impressive plays from Marte Mapu
32:50in different ways show that yes,
32:52he still has a lot of room to grow,
32:54but we've been talking about,
32:55this kid has really good instincts.
32:58Like he attacks the ball, he's got good range.
33:00When the ball's in the air,
33:01he does a good job of tracking it
33:03and usually coming down with it when he's not contested.
33:05So again, wasn't a perfect game,
33:07but a lot of good for Marte,
33:09who was a healthy scratch in the two games before.
33:11And then Jonathan Jones,
33:13another guy who's gotten a lot of crap this year.
33:16And a lot of it is because that Rams game
33:18was put in a very tough spot
33:19against one of the best receivers in football,
33:21against one of the best schemes in football,
33:23but in the slot, man, he looked excellent.
33:25He was undercutting those crossing routes
33:27where he forced Josh Allen to go elsewhere.
33:30They tried to create interference a few times
33:32with some of the rub concepts.
33:33There was one time where he did a great job
33:35passing off Khalil to Kyle Duggar
33:37and then becoming the middle field defender.
33:39I just love those man match coverages.
33:41Like when a defense is just on point like that,
33:43I think it looks really cool.
33:44And then obviously also getting targeted downfield,
33:47broke up the one pass to Khalil Shakir in the end zone.
33:50Also one play where he was beat, managed to recover.
33:52Not a great throw from Josh Allen,
33:54but still good recovery speed from Jonathan Jones
33:56to still be able to make a play on it.
33:58And obviously he doesn't have the speed he used to,
34:00but was still more than fast enough
34:02to keep up with a speedy receiver like Khalil Shakir.
34:04So in man coverage, Patriots were absolutely excellent.
34:08They were pretty good also in zone,
34:10but another element I was impressed with
34:12was how they defended scrambles,
34:14not just against Josh Allen,
34:16who did get outside of Yannick Ngakwe a few times,
34:18but still the coverage for the most part did not break down.
34:21They plastered very well.
34:22If you're not familiar with plaster,
34:24basically just means, you know,
34:25the quarterback's trying to extend the play.
34:27Just look at your man.
34:28Do not take your eyes off him.
34:30Glue your eyes to your coverage assignment
34:33and just make sure even if the ball's in the air,
34:35you can make a play on it and don't get burned
34:37where you lose your assignment.
34:38And when that happened,
34:39the rush did a pretty good job making sure
34:41that Allen wasn't just running loosey-goosey.
34:43There was one conversion for Allen for an explosive run.
34:46Another one where Mapu seemed like he got kind of confused
34:48and uncovered against a tight end.
34:50But other than that, they did a really good job.
34:53And this was one of the things
34:54that scared me the most coming into this game.
34:55They've been good on scrambles recently,
34:57but Josh Allen's Josh Allen for a reason.
34:59But really, I was impressed by their effort there.
35:02Was also encouraging for next week
35:03when they play Justin Herbert,
35:05and obviously when they end up playing Josh Allen
35:07potentially again in week 18.
35:09Every time he ran to the sideline like that,
35:11you've seen it before where he runs to the sideline,
35:14he gets right there, he tiptoes,
35:15and he throws it across his body,
35:17and it's right in someone's bread basket.
35:18Every time he got there yesterday,
35:19I was like, what's gonna happen?
35:20Something's gonna happen.
35:22They didn't let it happen.
35:23They played him really well.
35:24It was impressive stuff.
35:26Again, some moral,
35:27not, I don't wanna call them moral victories,
35:29but they couldn't get the job done in the end,
35:31but there are some-
35:31Things to hang your hat on.
35:32Things to hang your hat on, I would say.
35:34That's why you're the vocab guy.
35:35That's 100%.
35:37Couple of things to hang your hat on.
35:38One of them is this pass defense.
35:40All right, let's get into Drake May here at the end.
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37:50So, all right, let's close it out with this Taylor,
37:52Drake May versus the Blitz.
37:53Overall 22 of 36, 261 yards,
37:56two touchdowns and a pick for Drake May,
38:00but he was blitzed more than ever
38:01on Sunday against Buffalo.
38:02How did he do?
38:03What did he do against it?
38:04What was good?
38:05What was bad?
38:06Take us through number 10's performance.
38:08Yep. So first let's look at the numbies.
38:11So like you said,
38:12he was blitzed more than he has been blitzed
38:15in any NFL game before.
38:17In response, he got the ball out faster than he has before,
38:19but he also went further downfield,
38:21which is pretty interesting.
38:23And we saw that, obviously,
38:23a lot of that was on the first drive
38:25where he made some very aggressive decisions
38:27and they actually worked out.
38:29They were really fun to watch.
38:30Now, because he was going further downfield,
38:32partially because he's partially going downfield,
38:34his completion percentage was the lowest against the Blitz
38:37that it's been in the game in this season.
38:39And he had the second fewest yards per attempt.
38:41Now, there were a lot of different reasons
38:43for why he struggled.
38:44First, we'll get into what he did well.
38:45Gonna break down these plays more in depth,
38:47but really in this one,
38:48just gonna give you a general overview
38:50what Drake made it well and what he did poorly.
38:52Now, the highlights, like I said,
38:54the opening drive where he's getting heated up.
38:57First of all, the protection was pretty good
38:59for the most part, picking up the Blitz.
39:01There were some breakdowns, but on the good ones,
39:03you have the crossing route to Hunter Henry
39:05where he's got pressure from Von Miller bearing down,
39:07still gets it out.
39:08This one to Ramondre Stevenson
39:10where he could have gotten it out faster,
39:11but decided he wanted to make a play,
39:13extends, throws at the back of a defender's head,
39:15and obviously dropping it in the bucket
39:17to Keyshaw Goody on this deep pass,
39:19one of the best throws of his young career.
39:21But there were also the times
39:23where he may have had a few missed opportunities.
39:26Oh, I'm sorry.
39:27Also, the Hunter Henry dig, that one was pretty great.
39:29And then I can't move on without the dig to Goody
39:32where he's got immediate pressure,
39:34great Bitz pickup from Antonio Gibson,
39:36gets outside the pocket
39:38and is able to complete this absolute beauty
39:40to Keyshaw Goody across his body.
39:44Which one was this?
39:45Oh, this was, then he had a couple quick outs
39:47to Demario Douglas.
39:48Now, the first one was just short of the marker,
39:50didn't convert.
39:51Then it was another one where he throws it in the end zone
39:54and Demario Douglas isn't able to catch it.
39:57But I also thought there were some missed opportunities.
39:58There was the one on the curl to Kendrick Bourne.
40:01It was, they were a yard short.
40:02They wound up having to punt.
40:04I think that Drake was a tick late
40:06because when you look at his eyes,
40:07he wasn't looking left.
40:08He was looking in the middle of the field.
40:10So it's kind of like bounce, bounce,
40:12because this is a throw to the sideline.
40:13If you hold onto the throw,
40:15then it's gonna be tougher for you to get it to the ball
40:18without the receiver having to come back beyond the hashes.
40:21That's exactly what you see.
40:22If he throws this earlier,
40:23Kendrick Bourne doesn't have to come back to the ball,
40:25probably just barely converts.
40:27Instead, hands up a yard short, you punt.
40:29Then there was also a play
40:30where it felt like a flood concept.
40:32Demario Douglas gets open pretty quickly
40:34and Drake May is looking right at him.
40:37Maybe even could have held it
40:38and seen if Hunter Henry could have got open behind it,
40:40but he came off the look really quickly
40:42and checked down to Antonio Gibson,
40:44who tried to make a move,
40:45ended up getting tackled a yard short.
40:47Then the Patriots punt.
40:48So those were a couple where I thought
40:49he could have done more against the Blitz and didn't,
40:52but in the red zone,
40:53I thought there were missed opportunities
40:54across the board, right?
40:55We talked about it last night.
40:57Why did it take so long for them to get into the red zone?
40:59You have the one run that was probably a bad call,
41:01but I was saying, I wanna look at the film
41:03because I don't know if there were times
41:04they could have scored
41:05and just didn't capitalize or what have you.
41:08Turned out there were a lot of different reasons.
41:10One, this first play was an overload Blitz
41:12where Drake May didn't have an immediate answer.
41:14I didn't love this call versus cover zero.
41:17He had Demario Douglas open on a whip route
41:19where he actually got wide open and smoked his defender,
41:21but didn't have time to get the ball off.
41:23Also, Vardarian low on a slot Blitz against Ron Johnson
41:27blocks outside in instead of inside out.
41:29So Drake May got pressured pretty much immediately,
41:32had no time to find Kendrick Bourne on a backside slam.
41:35Another cover zero.
41:36This one, the Patriots, I thought this was a better call.
41:39He actually had Demario Douglas open immediately
41:41because the Bills passed this off the wrong way.
41:43I don't think they were expecting this play.
41:45Had an easy touchdown and said, goes to Kendrick Bourne.
41:48Not a bad decision because Bourne's open,
41:50but he under throws the ball.
41:52Does get defensive pass interference,
41:53but I don't think that was intentional.
41:55Then you get another all out Blitz.
41:57This is the pop drop where you have the spread out
41:59against the Blitz.
42:00It's a good call.
42:01Decent throw by Drake May.
42:03Unfortunately, pop couldn't complete
42:05the process of the catch.
42:06Then finally, we have the snap drop
42:08where you get the all out Blitz.
42:09Like I said, Mike Nguyenu misses on the right side.
42:12Vardarian low and Leighton Robinson get split.
42:14Another play where they run cross routes that kind of go
42:18overlap, and the defense plays it wrong.
42:20You get a wide open Kendrick Bourne,
42:22but because of the drop snap and because the blocking wasn't
42:25good enough, Drake May just has to fall on
42:27and has no chance to recover.
42:29When you look at the stats, he didn't play very well
42:31against the Blitz, but it wasn't all his fault.
42:34Like I said, there were some missed opportunities.
42:36He drops the snap in the red zone.
42:38Those are things you want to see him correct,
42:40but at the same time, there were plays
42:42where the blocking could have been better.
42:44You could have picked up guys or just played your blocks better.
42:46And also at times, receivers not totally doing the right thing
42:50potentially.
42:51Not completely sure, but a mixed bag there.
42:54Drake May typically is excellent against the Blitz,
42:56but this was one where I thought maybe partially
42:58due to the weather, partially because it's
43:00a tougher environment.
43:02I really don't know.
43:03I can't explain exactly, but not a perfect day.
43:05Something to look out for next week against the Chargers.
43:08I did like that he jumped right on the football
43:10when he dropped it.
43:11I know that's something.
43:12That's a little detail that people might be like, oh,
43:14you're just trying to give him credit for something.
43:15But there are times where guys try and make a little bit
43:18too much something out of nothing
43:20and either don't go right to pick up the ball,
43:22or they try and pick it up and make another play on top of it.
43:24They end up dropping it again.
43:25He was like, you know what?
43:26Abort, F it.
43:27I'm just jumping on this thing, and we're
43:28going to live to see another day.
43:30So you don't have highlights, right?
43:33That was it?
43:34Or do you have one?
43:34Oh, no, the highlights were early.
43:35It was really just like the early drive was
43:37the really good stuff.
43:38Oh, the Hunter-Henry conversion where
43:40he saw he had space and let it go immediately.
43:42And then the Kayshaun-Booty dig, where
43:44they put some up the middle, and then they go down.
43:46The second clip had low lights on it,
43:49so I just wanted to make sure that I didn't.
43:50Oh, damn.
43:51Yeah, I might have messed up.
43:51You're fine.
43:52I'm confused.
43:53It's the holidays.
43:54No, the podcast listeners know.
43:56I was going to say.
43:57No, no, no, it's all good.
43:59I'm losing it.
44:00It's Monday.
44:00It's Christmas Eve Eve.
44:02It's the holiday season.
44:03And I gotta live Christmas Eve Eve.
44:05It really is, Taylor.
44:06And that's why, as we outro this podcast,
44:08I'm going to let our listeners know that we will be back
44:10later on in the week, probably take two days off here
44:14on Pat's Daily, and then back later Thursday, Friday,
44:17somewhere around there.
44:18Whether it's a mailbag, whether it's a preview,
44:20that's all TBD.
44:21But thank you always, as always, for tuning in, people.
44:24We appreciate it.
44:25Taylor, any final thoughts here before we get out of here,
44:27not only for the mini break here,
44:30but just on the patrons in general
44:31as they go into these last two weeks?
44:34Hope they don't eat too much on Christmas.
44:36Enjoy your holiday.
44:37But you've got a game on Saturday, so don't get crazy.
44:39Yeah, that's right.
44:40It's Saturday, too.
44:41I know, it's Saturday.
44:42Oh, yeah.
44:42So we'll probably do it.
44:43It's a weird week, man.
44:44It is a weird week, with Christmas,
44:46with actually putting together a decent performance.
44:49And then you get right back to it.
44:50Another carbon copy quarterback game.
44:53It was Josh Allen and Drake May,
44:54and now it's Justin Herbert and Drake May playing
44:57against each other on Saturday.
44:58So we'll have you covered here for all of it.
45:00Thank you guys again for tuning in to our Daily
45:04Patriots versus Bills recap.
45:06Again, we'll be back later on in the week.
45:07Until then, we appreciate you guys, as always.
45:09We'll talk to you soon.
45:10Take care of yourselves.
45:11Take care of each other.
45:12Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, and we
45:14will see you all very soon.
45:15Thanks for watching.
45:17Oops, where's the outro?
45:19OK, bye.
45:19Bye.
45:19Bye.
45:20Thank you so much.
45:21Bye.
45:21Sorry, I have to go.