Judge HITS WOMAN With The UNBEARABLE TRUTH About HER ACTIONS!
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00:00Tell me, Rachel, was her machine paid for by us?
00:10Herman, I'm going to tell you now, do you speak English, ma'am?
00:16Yes, sir.
00:17Okay.
00:18I'm going to tell you now that if I paid for it and I waived the fee, I'm going to have
00:22a problem with this agreement.
00:24I'm going to tell you that now.
00:25I paid $500 and I pay a month, $15, and I've had it on for like more than six months and
00:31never got locked out till recently for one month, fairly.
00:37I called my probation officer, I called Interlock to let them know my vehicle got damaged.
00:43This is going to be a problem now.
00:46Yeah, I paid for your device the entire time.
00:51I paid for every single device just so that we don't have this very issue.
00:57You should not be paying one penny for this device because I paid for it.
01:02I did, sir.
01:03I swear to God, I paid $500 to put it in and I paid three months.
01:08I don't know what to tell you because it's agency pay.
01:10Okay.
01:11I wasn't here originally, but it's also because her car got into an accident, as well, that
01:18is the only reason why I got locked out.
01:24Then that's why you had to pay because your car got repossessed.
01:27They took the device.
01:28No, sir.
01:29I paid an issue.
01:30No, you have a device in your car.
01:34You were supposed to maintain its calibration and go every month.
01:38I pay for it for you so that you don't have to, if your car got repossessed, hold on a
01:44second.
01:45If your car got repossessed and they took the device because they took the car, that's
01:52on you.
01:53I mean, and now they took the device and you were responsible for the cost of the device.
02:00Is that what you had to pay for?
02:01No, sir.
02:02I paid initially, sir.
02:03It looks like on February 21st, it was a portable device.
02:04It was client paid.
02:06So you must have come to us asking us to pay for it.
02:23We did.
02:24And when did she get in lockout?
02:25August, August 10th.
02:26But it was under agency pay as of March 27th.
02:27Yeah.
02:28No, I'm not.
02:29No, I'm not.
02:30Yeah.
02:31No, I'm not.
02:33No, I'm not taking this.
02:36The only reason is that it's out of state.
02:40I don't think it's approved by the J&S judge.
02:44So that's...
02:45What do you mean it's out of state?
02:46It's out of state.
02:47It's in Virginia.
02:48The DWI is the first.
02:4918 years ago.
02:50It's out of Virginia.
02:51Oh, wait.
02:5217 years ago, the conviction.
02:53So I don't think they're going to be able to prove up the second.
02:58I understand.
02:59My problem is that she's been in lockout.
03:02How long has she been in lockout, Rachel?
03:07She's been in lockout for an entire month.
03:09I understand.
03:10Right.
03:11No, I will.
03:12You will have to do three days as a condition and then we can do the split, but that's why
03:18we should do that because she picked the three days so she doesn't lose her job.
03:22I'm okay with that.
03:23Okay.
03:24Okay.
03:25That's fine.
03:26Okay.
03:27But there has to be consequence to your behavior.
03:29You've been in lockout for an entire month.
03:30You will be doing a weekend in jail and I'm going to tell you, that's it.
03:38And now here's the other part.
03:40I cannot pay for this going forward for you now.
03:43How are you going to pay for all this now?
03:49What are you doing now?
03:52How long have you been working at this job?
03:56So how is it that you've been working for four months, but yet you can't pay for this
04:00device the last month?
04:01It's not that, sir.
04:05I've been going to calibration, pain and everything, sir, every time I go.
04:10She has Uber.
04:11She has Uber.
04:12I've been Ubering every single day for a whole month.
04:15I can prove.
04:23I'm going to do it, Herman.
04:24I'm not doing a far off three days.
04:27She's going to have to do it within a month, sir.
04:30And I'm going to tell you now that if you have any problems with this, you're going
04:34to go to jail for a long time because now I can put you in jail for an entire one and
04:40180 days after today.
04:42The other thing, this is now two DWIs on your record.
04:46What happens next, Mr. Hernandez, two to 10 of the penalties.
04:55You should never, ever get in a car.
04:59Even if you've had just a sip of alcohol, even one shot, half of a beer, because the
05:07smell in and of itself with your history.
05:26Is the theft still open?
05:27My understanding.
05:28I talked to Mr. Lipkin this morning.
05:29That's already being reset.
05:30So I'm not representing her upstairs.
05:31I talked to her attorney though.
05:32October 9th is a reset.
05:33So, and they're anticipating a dismissal upstairs and they really think it was done.
05:43Yes.
05:44That's my understanding.
05:45Mr. Hernandez Rodriguez, you're charged with driving while intoxicated second offense.
05:58The offer is they're going to reduce it to a first.
06:01You're looking at 180 days in jail, probated for 15 months.
06:05As part of the agreement, you will do three days as a condition.
06:09You will also do a repeat offender DWI education class.
06:14You will do one victim impact panel.
06:17You will have to do what's called a TRAS.
06:19This is an evaluation to see what other conditions you may need.
06:25You must fulfill all those conditions.
06:28No drugs, no alcohol.
06:30No breath test refusal.
06:31If you're in a car and you're caught driving and an officer asks you to submit to a breath
06:36sample, you must, I now I'm going to suspend your license.
06:40You are not allowed to drive after today.
06:41It's a first.
06:42So judge, it's a second, it's a first.
06:46She has bond violations.
06:48I'm not letting her drive, but judge, again, if it's reduced to a first, as long as she
06:54takes the DWI offender class, the DPS doesn't suspend her license.
06:59It has to be a second for the court to understand.
07:02Is it part of her probation?
07:03She can't drive her because no, I don't think I always, even if it gets reduced, I always
07:08suspend it for a year regardless.
07:11She can always apply.
07:12I recognize it.
07:13So I understand your position, but I don't think DPS will recognize as long as I suspend
07:19it and put it in the system, DPS is going to recognize it.
07:22They're going to tell you if she's in compliance and she's doing well, I will grant you an
07:28occupation license.
07:29Okay.
07:30But I want to know at least a month, right?
07:34She doesn't even have, she's not in compliance now.
07:36She's on bond.
07:37Right.
07:38I got to know that if I'm going to put my name on a license for her, that she's going
07:41to comply.
07:42She's going to do what she's, you know, first things first, so she don't even have any kind
07:45of alcohol device.
07:47You have a week to get this device.
07:49Now, if you don't get this device, I'm going to put you in jail for a very, very long time.
07:54Do you understand?
07:55I am not happy with you, Ms. Hernandez.
07:59You should be going to jail today.
08:00And it's, it's only because of Herman here that you're not, but don't push your luck.
08:08Okay, Ms. Wallace, you're charged with theft.
08:17You're facing up to six months in jail and or a $2,000 fine.
08:25You haven't worked out an agreement.
08:26They're offering you three days credit for three.
08:29Why, why are you pleading guilty to this step?
08:34So it can just go on your record.
08:35How old are you?
08:36You're 24.
08:37Do you want to become unemployable?
08:38I'm ready to go back to work and I can't work with you being open.
08:44Her job says they can't hire her back on the pending case.
08:47Once the case is closed, no matter how it is closed, she can go back to work.
08:50She has a prior out of state.
08:52So this isn't just a first offense.
08:56So you know what happens next time?
08:57Right?
08:58I got court for my other one, October 6th.
09:01Other what?
09:02You have another theft open now?
09:05I've been arrested for a several times, but they never came and got me.
09:14My bond company never gave me a court date.
09:15The last one, they couldn't even find the court date.
09:18How many open thefts do you have?
09:21This one and that one?
09:25Where's the other one from?
09:26Yeah.
09:27Walmart, Target.
09:28Where's it from?
09:33Which mall?
09:34Where's this one from?
09:37It's a convenience store.
09:40This now makes two.
09:45The next one is a felony offense.
09:50Instead of days, you're looking at years.
09:52I hope you appreciate and understand that.
09:54Yes, sir. You don't want a probation to try to keep it off your record.
10:01I wouldn't mind, but would I be able to, it will be open still.
10:06No, no, no. It's, well, it'd be closed, but you're on probation, but you know,
10:10do you do a six month deferred? If you do an anti-theft class, you know, and if you don't
10:15test positive, you get out of here, you don't have a conviction on your record. And then,
10:19you know, at the minimum, I'm telling you when you get a theft on your record,
10:24you become unemployable. No one hires thieves. No one. You have a job now, but I'm telling you in
10:32six months, you're probably not. History is, is that every single person goes through at least
10:38eight to 10 jobs in their lifetime. When you, what are you doing now? Where do you work now?
10:45Okay. Right. How much money can make an hour? That's a great job. And I'm going to tell you
10:53that if you stick with this job, fantastic, but the chances are that you're at some point
10:59going to move to another job. You have, I'm sorry. So quit, you might as well quit school.
11:08If you're going to end up with a theft on your record, because you go into school,
11:12makes no difference. When you have a theft on your record, no one hires thieves.
11:15Why waste your money in school? Quit. I'm telling you. If you really want to amount to
11:24something in this life, having a theft conviction on your record is about the worst possible thing
11:30you can do. You want to get FAFSA funding for future schooling to become nurse, doctor,
11:36whatever. You're not going to get it with a theft conviction. No, they're going to deny you funding
11:41just because of a conviction. I'll tell them my client judge. I would, if I were you, I would do
11:50a deferred successfully completed. And that point, it doesn't end up on your record. And you need to
11:57also understand in Montgomery County, they're a lot tougher than they are here. So you need
12:02to work as hard as you can to try to not end up with a theft on your record.
12:12I'm cool with it. And that's what I would do. Don't don't you ruining your life.
12:18Stop freaking stealing. If it's not yours, don't take it.
12:34Where have you been?
12:35What am I speaking Swahili? Where, where have you been? It's 240 days.
12:40I've been coming to every court except the last court.
12:42What are you talking about? I have here on 724, you didn't appear. We issued a warrant and now
12:47you're back here yet. I had a period. Another PR bond.
12:51He's an offer time. So okay. It's good. So I will run it by him. Oh, is that what you want to do?
12:58You let me know, but I'm at the point it's we're, we're ready to set your case for trial,
13:03Mr. Saldivar. We set cases for trial at 180 days. Your case is 280 days now.
13:08You're not a defendant. You're a defendant. You're a victim. You're a defendant.
13:12You are a defendant. You are a defendant. You are a defendant. You are a defendant.
13:16You are a defendant. You are a defendant. You are a defendant. You are a defendant.
13:19case is 240 days old. It's time to decide what you want to do. I'll have you speak to Mr. Milley,
13:26you tell me. Okay. All right. We'll have you write it up. We'll get it done here momentarily.
13:42Good morning, Mr. D. Good morning, Your Honor. What do we got here?
13:44I'm Mr. Alondria Baker, Your Honor. Okay. I'm here to solve a family member case.
13:51What are we doing? We're doing a deferred adjudication probation, Your Honor. Okay.
13:55Good morning, Ms. Baker. Good morning. Is this what you really want to do?
14:01I wasn't really explaining anything about it. I don't even honestly know what I'm signing for.
14:07I just want to come home and go to sleep. That's not true, Judge. I took Mrs. Baker
14:15in the room down in court number eight and went over all the conditions of probation that was
14:19offered by the state. I went over, I had her, she said, I'm giving her a chance to talk to
14:25any family members. She called her- One more time.
14:29Please. I asked her that and she said, no, Judge.
14:32I asked her, does she need more time? And she said, no.
14:34Let me ask you this. You're a security officer. Do you carry a weapon?
14:38No, sir. But I was getting ready to get a license for it to transfer jobs.
14:43Not going to happen with this. You might even lose primary custody with this.
14:51I mean, you need to really, your case is-
14:55I don't decide anything. I don't know.
14:58No, no, no. Look, there's no rush. Your case is young and no one's forcing you to do anything.
15:05You can have as much time as you need. If you need a month, two months, three months, I'm okay
15:10with it. You have time. You don't have to make any decisions now. I mean, this is not an arraignment
15:16setting, right? Did we do the arraignment just a couple of days ago?
15:21Yesterday, Your Honor. We did the arraignment. It was yesterday.
15:24So why are you back here now? Usually we give you time.
15:28Because she had asked me to talk to the court to see if the court would be amenable to
15:35withdrawing the no contact with the complainant witness who she has a-
15:41Now I have a problem with that. I mean, you have to understand you have this new assault case.
15:47Not a year ago, you had an aggravated assault where you slashed the hell out of him with a knife.
15:53I have a problem because this case is really fresh and it's open. And the last thing I want
16:00is you under the stress of all this stuff to get together with this person. And then you make some
16:05kind of life ending choice where you end up with a 50 year sentence. That's why we're doing this.
16:14Explain something to you for a second. I don't want to talk about the case.
16:19You can talk about kids. Yes, but I don't want to talk about the case.
16:24I have three boys. I have a little girl. She's three.
16:27As far as me and him with parents, and like I said, we've been together 10 years. We share a car.
16:33He goes to work from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. And I work overnight 11 p.m. to 7 a.m.
16:40And I work seven days a week. He works six. His only off day is Sunday.
16:46So if you guys work this much and you barely see each other that much,
16:52how is it that we have such problems then?
16:55We were homeless last year.
16:58And you work as much as you work and you tell me you're homeless.
17:00Just, I guess, being overwhelmed and we got into an argument, a disagreement.
17:04As far as the description of both arguments, the first case got.
17:10I don't want to talk about the case. All I know is that you have that prior.
17:14Argument that went too far. And the prior case, that was, I take responsibility for that. But
17:20I had someone else involved in it because someone was in my house. So I overreacted to that.
17:27What's the next overreaction going to be? A gun?
17:31You say no.
17:33I have a little girl. And even this, like being arrested in front of her.
17:43Guilty to this thing. It's just going to make everything go sideways.
17:48Well, it's not the right thing.
17:50I said not to be guilty, but I'm not for sure what I'm supposed to do after that.
17:55At this time, all I want is you guys to just separate a while and not be with each other.
18:02Absence makes the heart grow fonder. And you guys together, you fight.
18:07And that's what we don't want.
18:09I understand what you're saying as far as that. But as far as my life situation,
18:17that's impossible because, I mean, we're a team. And we just moved to this apartment.
18:26We just came out of a hotel room. And I was in there for a year with my kids.
18:32A year with my kids.
18:36You know, before I allow you to have contact with this person, I want to talk to him first.
18:41Can you arrange, Mr. D, that we can have?
18:45Oh, he's here now. Great. Let's do this.
18:47Just take a seat for me for a second. I want to talk to him.
18:49And then we're going to, I'm going to bring you back up.
18:51Let me thin the line because they've been waiting.
18:53Just hang tight for me, Ms. Baker.
18:54Just take a seat over there. And then we have to do a deeper dive.
18:58Is that you, sir?
18:59Come on up.
19:02Thank you so much for coming.
19:18You know, she's charged with the assault. And it worries me putting you guys together
19:26because I don't want you to get the brunt of the attack every time things get hot,
19:31anytime she gets upset. And it scares me.
19:34And initially, I didn't want to do, I wanted to do a no contact order.
19:41But at the end of the day, who suffers the most?
19:46Right. The kids are the ones that suffer because kids need their mom.
19:51These are things that you have to consider.
19:53The other thing that you have to consider is this, is that,
19:56you know what, the kids are like flowers, you know, and they need love.
20:01They need nurturing. They need guidance.
20:04And if they see violence in a house, they're going to think it's okay.
20:08That child, instead of being a flower and growing beautiful petals,
20:12it's going to grow sideways and backwards.
20:16Just kids emulate mothers and fathers.
20:22And if they see the fighting, if they see the knives, if they see the,
20:28they're going to do the exact same thing and they're going to think it's okay.
20:31That's why we have so much violence.
20:36So my question is this, is that what are we going to do next time you get upset?
20:41Because it's going to happen. You can't say you're not going to get upset.
20:44How do we handle it so that there's no more violence?
20:48And the thing, ma'am, Ms. Baker, if you deny it, it's probably about the worst thing
21:02because you have to confront it. You have to do it head on because that's how it stops.
21:07And that's how you cure. You confront it head on.
21:10You recognize it and you say, look, you know, kids suck.
21:16They're so freaking hard. They're expensive. They argue, they stink.
21:22Kids suck. And they're really difficult. But when you treat them right,
21:28they come back and they pay it forward to you tenfold because
21:32someone's got to take care of you when you're old.
21:34And if they hate you because you acted like an a-hole when there were kids,
21:39they're never going to be there.
21:40So that's why it's you treat them with love and respect now for the future,
21:46because I'll tell you what, when you have a kid and when they become in there,
21:52when they get to their teenage years and they see the way you've been,
21:56they're going to bring it back to you tenfold.
21:58And hell has no fury like an 18 year old.
22:01That's hell on wheels because they can make your life a living hell.
22:06And you think it's bad now?
22:10That you see the guy in Georgia, that guy that bought the kid the gun and
22:16shot up all those people in the school, what do you think they did?
22:20Now in today's society, they're not just going after kids.
22:25They're going after parents who are unable to recognize how dangerous their children are.
22:32The kid in the Santa Fe that gunned down all those people now over there,
22:37Demetrio Burgosis or something.
22:41All those families came back and sued the parents for letting him have access to a gun.
22:48So now what I'm trying to impart to you is that if you were unable
22:54to control yourself and your kids become like you,
22:57and they go out there and create a public danger,
23:01all those people, they're not going to come after you.
23:04And you think it's expensive?
23:06You think it sucks now?
23:07Wait till that happens.
23:12Are you okay with context?
23:15How can we handle and what do we do if you guys start butting heads again?
23:22What are we supposed to do so that she doesn't pick up anything?
23:24I'm going to tell you, you pick up a new case.
23:30How do we handle?
23:38It's not though.
23:40They're choices.
23:41A misunderstanding, a mistake is I left my umbrella at home
23:46even though I knew it was going to rain.
23:48I picked up, I left my glass case at home and I didn't bring it home.
23:53That's a mistake.
23:54These are choices, not mistakes.
23:56They're not misunderstandings.
23:58They're choices.
23:59And they're bad choices because you're here when you don't want to be here.
24:05You're spending money that you already don't have.
24:18I'm okay with you having contact, Ms. Baker, with him.
24:22But before that happens, I need to know that we have a plan in place.
24:27In the event that you get upset so that either the kids don't get it
24:33or importantly, he doesn't get it either.
24:37You need to come up with something for me showing me
24:40how we're going to handle if times get stressful.
24:47We have to figure something out.
24:49Just saying, I don't know what I'm going to do.
24:51We need a game plan.
24:53Perhaps you start doing anger management classes at home on your own.
24:57So you can learn how to cope with the anger.
25:01That would be something.
25:02I don't know.
25:02Exercise, very spiritual.
25:07Exercise is great.
25:08I run my happy ass four miles every day because I have four kids too.
25:13My kids are really difficult.
25:15And it would really be easy for me to beat them into submission.
25:18But for me to work my aggression out, I run every single day.
25:28All right.
25:29No, I get it.
25:30But here's what I would like.
25:32I think that we should do some kind of online anger management class three times a week.
25:38OK.
25:39And then as long as you can do that, then I'll allow you guys to have contact.
25:44No threatening, harassing or abusive contact.
25:47You need to understand what is threatening or harassing.
25:50It's not what you think.
25:51I could care less what you think.
25:52It's how he perceives.
25:55So can conduct alone.
25:57If I go like this, is that threatening, harassing?
25:59It is.
26:00And it can violate this quarter.
26:03So are you OK with it?
26:06There is still a protective order in place.
26:09So she cannot threaten, harass anything.
26:12If she does, she goes back into custody.
26:16All right.
26:16So let's do we'll do 30 days.
26:19Yes, sir.
26:20And I want you to do anger management three times a week online.
26:24Is it a time for it?
26:26No, no.
26:27OK, but just I want I want a sheet of paper written down showing, you know, date time
26:36where you did it so that we can verify it.
26:39And I want a daily log of it three times a week that you've done anger management classes.
26:43And as long as you can do that, then we will allow contact.
26:48And then I'm going to have Mr. D get it to me.
26:50And I'm telling you now, if you don't, because I'm making that a condition of your
26:54mind, I'm going to revoke your bone.
26:57OK.
26:57All right, Mr. Thank you.