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00:00This is the Greg Bidard Patriots podcast with Nick Cavins.

00:07All right, we'll get to this San Francisco 49ers matchup in just a couple of minutes.

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00:44All right, let's get to some headlines, Greg, and when you look at this game, the first

00:48thing you notice is the injury report.

00:51My goodness, injuries galore.

00:54Let's start with San Francisco.

00:56Deebo Samuel, expected out, run CMC, literally flew to Germany, got a treatment on his Achilles,

01:04which doesn't sound good.

01:05Javon Hargrave tore his pec.

01:07I think it was on the triceps, tore his triceps, so he's going to be out.

01:11George Kittle, limited at yesterday's practice, we're recording this on Thursday early afternoon.

01:16Brock Purdy has a sore back.

01:18He was a full participant, but his back's a little cranky.

01:22How does that impact San Francisco, their game plan, and what they could look like on

01:26Sunday?

01:27Well, I mean, I think against most teams, it would impact them a lot.

01:32Against the Patriots, you know, I don't think it impacts them all that much.

01:37I mean, I think the big thing is, you know, Trent Williams, he mispracticed with an illness.

01:41I assume he's going to be back.

01:43We also saw him go out of the game against the Rams, but he did return.

01:48At first it looked scary.

01:50He's a guy they pretty much can't afford to lose because he's one of the best in the

01:57league.

01:59But you know, in the hands of a different offensive coordinator, especially what's going

02:04on with their offense, you would say like, you know, I don't know what they're going

02:11to do against a defense like the Patriots.

02:17But with Kyle Shanahan and the Patriots defense, you know, I don't really think it disrupts

02:22them all that much.

02:23I mean, Kyle Shanahan's such a wizard that like, you know, if Kittle's not available,

02:28then he'll use Juszczak more.

02:31And you know, Jawan Jennings, the wide receiver, really busted onto the scene last week with

02:38a huge game against the Rams.

02:40Ayuk, it still seems like with his holdout and everything, they're still trying to get

02:45him acclimated into the offense.

02:50Of course, not having Debo and not having McCaffrey out there definitely makes a guy

02:56like Brandon Ayuk, you know, instead of being like the third option or the fourth option,

03:02you know, now he's the number one option and it's different and teams are going to play

03:05you different.

03:06And so I don't have a ton of concerns.

03:11I mean, the Hargrave injury, probably in the near term for this team, for the 49ers,

03:17is probably the most troublesome.

03:18I mean, he's one of the best interior defensive linemen in the league.

03:21And I will say that I haven't been overly impressed with the 49ers defensive line, especially

03:28without Hargrave.

03:29Of course, Nick Bosa is Nick Bosa and, you know, he's great.

03:35But outside of that, you know, I don't think that this 49ers defense is all that formidable.

03:43Fred Warner, of course, is probably the best defender, regardless of position in the league.

03:51But if he doesn't have those big guys like Hargrave and those guys up front taking up

03:56blockers and letting him run sideline to sideline, he's not quite as good.

04:00So, you know, I think we'll get into the Patriots injury situation, but I would say

04:07I would say, you know, slight advantage to the Patriots, Patriots offense, you know,

04:13with the injuries that are going on with the 49ers.

04:15And I would say not much of an advantage for the Patriots defense going up against the

04:22San Francisco offense.

04:23Yeah.

04:24You mentioned Hargrave.

04:25Let's look in the trenches because the Patriots injury report.

04:28My goodness.

04:29No bueno.

04:30So Michael Jordan, Vanarion Lowe did not practice yesterday.

04:35Andrews, So and Wallace were all limited.

04:41How concerned are you about this offensive line, Greg, with all of these injuries stacking

04:46up now at this point?

04:47I mean, Nick, we're looking at the we're staring at the possibility that Demontre Jacobs, who

04:54finished the game against the Jets at left tackle, who was one of their waiver claims,

04:59could be basically the fourth left tackle for this team in four games.

05:04And that's that's pretty scary.

05:07I'm surprised that David Andrews, like it says, not injury related rest that he missed

05:12practice on Wednesday.

05:15I think we talked about it last podcast.

05:19David's play the last couple of weeks has been concerning.

05:23And I think he is dealing with something.

05:26He's the ultimate tough guy.

05:27He's not going to let anybody know.

05:28He probably doesn't want to even be on the injury report.

05:31I'll be interested to see what his designation is today.

05:34Maybe they did give him, quote unquote, rest on Wednesday, but he might be limited today

05:40with an injury.

05:41But, you know, Michael Jordan is a guy that I think has played well in the first three

05:47games.

05:48Now, city.

05:49So is on his way back.

05:50He's he was limited with an ankle.

05:53I think I would rather have Michael Jordan out there.

05:58But yeah, of course, with the Patriots offensive line situation, this is not making it any

06:04better.

06:05Now, I mean, it's crazy that they just haven't been able to find any chemistry or continuity

06:09up front injuries, troops leaving the team due to mental health.

06:13I mean, there's just so many things going on where it's impossible to to really evaluate

06:20what they originally wanted to do because they just haven't been able to do it.

06:25And now they just keep falling deeper and deeper into this hole.

06:29Not only offensive line.

06:31You also look at the defensive backs, Greg, Jonathan Jones, Christian Gonzalez, both limited.

06:38Alex Austin did not practice.

06:40Of course, Austin was getting snaps the last game over Marco Wilson because Wilson had

06:45not played well.

06:46So the secondary is also dinged up here.

06:49And I would imagine Kyle Shanahan has taken notice of that.

06:53Yeah, for sure.

06:55And I think that, you know, when we talk about this matchup and we'll get further into it,

07:02I don't think there's anybody better in the league at, you know, especially now that Belichick's

07:07not in the league at looking at an opponent.

07:12And seeing what they do well or don't do well or where they're having injury problems and

07:16exploiting that.

07:18And so, you know, I don't know if this is going to be a huge air game for the San Francisco

07:2449ers.

07:25Of course, they are going to, you know, dial up some things.

07:27You know, I was just watching their film and the first touchdown, Juwan Jennings was just

07:32like a Kyle Shanahan special where, you know, they they they totally got the defense to

07:40buy in that it was going to be a run and bring the safety down.

07:43And even Juwan Jennings is like, you know, faking that he's going to block and there's

07:48motion all this way.

07:49And then all of a sudden Jennings just pops out and he's wide open in the end zone.

07:53I mean, that's Kyle Shanahan.

07:55That's play calling that scheme.

07:58And he's the best at it.

08:00But, you know, the the Patriots defense, especially their secondary, Nick, and I think you would

08:06agree with this, especially after what we've seen, at least against the Jets and maybe

08:10late against the Seahawks.

08:13They're going to have to tackle in this game and tackle a lot so that that these guys are

08:19a little bit dinged up and traveling across the country.

08:25It's they're going to have to gird up and really play play tough to keep this game close.

08:29One more injury note, because, yes, if you were wondering, there is more that I think

08:34might get overlooked this week because of the offensive line stuff and because of Christian

08:37Gonzalez, Anthony Jennings.

08:40Now, he did not practice yesterday.

08:43We'll see how, you know, this goes the rest of the week.

08:47But I was surprised I was I was looking at some stats, Greg, this week.

08:52And one of the things that shocked me.

08:55Was that Anthony Jennings, I was looking at ESPN and they, you know, run block win rates

09:02and they're, you know, winning against the run for edge defenders, ESPN's metrics.

09:09They actually have Anthony Jennings as the number one run edge defender this year so

09:15far.

09:16And we'll get into this a little bit more in depth.

09:19But San Francisco runs outside the tackles an awful lot.

09:24And we saw the discipline or lack thereof on the pass rush from the defense last week

09:29against the Jets.

09:30And now the guy that's been the best in the league, obviously best on your team, setting

09:36the edge is a DNP due to a shoulder with this specific matchup.

09:41That could be a big issue.

09:42Yeah, and I'm trying to think I completely agree.

09:47I mean, I think Anthony Jennings has done a lot of really good things, especially, you

09:51know, against the run and setting the edge and, you know, making negative plays like

09:57he's his improvement over the last two years has been astounding.

10:04He sort of really announced himself last season as the season went along.

10:08And he's tremendous.

10:09I mean, I guess I'm guessing that and they don't even have a guy like Xemnas who, you

10:16know, flashed during training camp and all that stuff.

10:19And, you know, he's on IR now.

10:22I take it they're going to have to probably move to buy to edge, you know, big, strong

10:27guy can set the edge, does a lot of really good work against the run.

10:31Also, when he's on the edge, he's not as good.

10:33I think, you know, when he's at inside linebacker, which he's had to be for Bentley, I think

10:38they're going to have to look at some other options and moving to buy, you know, maybe

10:44they play Ellis or somebody like that.

10:47But yeah, I totally agree.

10:49I think Anthony Jennings not talked about that much, but been a really good player.

10:55And this is the type of team San Francisco, because basically what they're going to have

10:58to do is, you know, to have a hope to have any hope at stopping or corralling this offense,

11:05they're going to have to set the edge hard in the run game and make it make the 49ers

11:11play in a phone booth.

11:13If if Jennings isn't there to do that, it's they definitely take a hit.

11:18Maybe Jamri Comra or Kroma is is the guy that comes off and then all of a sudden is on the

11:23active roster.

11:24We heard that he's decent at the point of attack.

11:26All right, we'll get into the quarterback conversation because there's a number of quarterback

11:31notes Greg wants to hit.

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12:34You know, you know me, Nick.

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12:44So of course we have the Caleb Williams free square.

12:48Yes.

12:49I am going and I mixed in some more 49ers because I feel a little bit better about them.

12:56So I'm going Antonio Gibson more than six and a half receiving yards.

13:01I think that we heard Alex Van Pelt today tell reporters that a way to telegraph yourself,

13:08but this is a, what do you term it?

13:11Get the ball out quick game.

13:14So who were the players that are closest to Jacoby Bursette?

13:19The running backs.

13:20So I feel good about the backs in the passing game.

13:23So six and a half more for Antonio Gibson.

13:28I'm going Ramond Ray Stevenson more than 13 and a half receiving yards.

13:33Hopefully they can hit a screen pass.

13:35I'm sure they're going to dial one up early.

13:37Now I'm going to the 49ers, Nick Bosa more than 0.25 sacks.

13:43I mean, he's got to get that, right?

13:45I mean, I think he can get that like breathing on the Patriots.

13:49You guys trade Jacobs or whatever the hell isn't up to the task.

13:52Is that what you're telling me?

13:53Jacobs, baby.

13:54Yeah.

13:55Yeah.

13:56They totally had the third pick in the way of a while and they got the steal of a guy.

14:01I'm going Brock Purdy more than nine and a half rushing yards.

14:07I think that we've seen the Patriots have contained issues against Gino Smith against

14:12Aaron Rodgers.

14:13Of course, they're going to double down on that.

14:15I think they were embarrassed.

14:16They should be embarrassed, but still I think of, you know, all the movement that the San

14:22Francisco 49ers get going back and forth.

14:25I think Purdy is going to break off, you know, a couple, he's going to scramble at least

14:29a couple of times.

14:30And then this is the one I don't feel great about, but he's on my fantasy team.

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15:12Run your game.

15:13Greg, Gerard Mayo said this week that the team is not looking to add a veteran quarterback.

15:18Is that a mistake?

15:23I think it is.

15:24I mean, I just like to have, I mean, even if the guy's on the practice squad you know,

15:30I just like to give myself options.

15:32I mean, we're seeing this all over the league.

15:34I mean, not just this year, but last year, I mean, quarterbacks are going to get hurt

15:39and you know, you know, whether it's Jacoby Brissett and or Drake may I just want to give

15:46myself options more than, than Joe Milton.

15:49I mean, I do think that it would be in their best interest to let Drake bake a bit more.

15:55I know we're hearing more and more.

15:56I think some of it's because of, you know, they played on Thursday night.

15:59So there's a lot to talk about.

16:01Of course there's, you know, some radio hosts out there locally who, uh, who act like Veruca

16:07salt and want Drake may now, and, you know, throw a temper have been throwing a temper

16:13tantrum for weeks on end.

16:15I want it now, daddy.

16:16And, uh, so look, I, I don't, I don't know if he's ready yet.

16:22I mean, I would just give myself options, but this is what they're, this is sort

16:28of, you know, what they've been going down.

16:30I mean, I remember asking people in the organization around cut down day, like,

16:34all right, well, who's the veteran that you guys are signing?

16:36And they're like, Joe Milton's the practice squad quarterback, quote unquote.

16:41Yeah.

16:41So I, I, I don't see why anything would change.

16:45And we're hearing a lot of reports about Drake Mays, really good in practice.

16:48Like, of course, I don't think, I don't think the coaches are going to sit up

16:52there and be like, boy, he really stinks.

16:55Like, um, but it is what it is.

16:59Drake Mays time is coming probably sooner rather than later.

17:02And then we'll all see what happens.

17:06You and I are on the same page when it comes to the veteran quarterback stuff.

17:09We've been having this conversation since they drafted two quarterbacks

17:13and had zappy on the roster.

17:15And I'm not a zappy guy, but I said then, and I feel the same way now would not

17:21have been the worst idea to try to get Milton to the practice squad and keep

17:24zappy on the roster because he's another veteran dude.

17:27And if, if you feel like may, isn't quite ready.

17:30And as Greg always says, you know, let Drake bake.

17:33If, if you want them to keep baking, then you'd have another option.

17:37And so now in the worst case scenario, which, you know, I'm, I'm certainly not

17:40hoping for a wishing for, but preset goes down and then may gets banged up.

17:45And I got Joe Milton out there behind this offensive line, uh, far from ideal.

17:51Uh, don't love the idea.

17:53You know, I try to, and I do a terrible job.

17:57So, because I'm so stubborn and so tunnel vision, but I do try to

18:01understand people's arguments and try to look at them in a reasonable way.

18:06And I know there's a lot of people watching or listening to this podcast that

18:09they want Drake may out there right now.

18:13I really can't come up with a good reason why to play him right now.

18:15Like, I, I just don't know how you watch this offensive line beyond pace to, you

18:21know, give up 170 hits on Jacoby preset.

18:24That's an actual number folks.

18:26I mean, Mike Reese said reset's been hit 30 times the first three games.

18:31If you extrapolate that out, he's going to take 170 hits.

18:35And you want to throw may out there right now, your wide

18:38receiver room is a shuffle act.

18:40We don't really know who the best receiver in the room is.

18:43They don't have Kendrick born yet.

18:44Who is the best receiver on this roster?

18:46Osborne still getting too many snaps.

18:48You have an offensive coordinator who Greg's has said, he's literally just

18:52picking plays off the sheet right now.

18:54Not really setting things up.

18:55And you know, Gerard Mayo comes out this week and says that they're still

18:59trying to figure things out, coaching staff, players, and everything.

19:02You want to put Drake may in the middle of that, right?

19:05I just, for the life of me, I don't get it.

19:08What is the rush?

19:09Wait a few weeks.

19:10If you've got to wait a few weeks, let's see if the

19:13offensive line can get healthy.

19:14I just, I don't understand it.

19:16Well, and that's where I am, Nick, I'm the same way.

19:19It's like, you know, when you talk about this Drake may thing and you know,

19:24you, you gotta give me a good reason and your entertainment value, um, your,

19:31uh, desire to watch the team.

19:34That's not, that's not a reason, um, that Jaden Daniels is doing X, Y,

19:39and Z is not a reason because as we illustrated in the last podcast, like

19:43they're two completely different prospects and what Jaden Daniels is

19:46doing so far is not a surprise.

19:49Everybody knew he was the most pro ready quarterback, especially because

19:53they're basically running the LSU offense, um, you know, in Washington.

19:58And, you know, he has Terry McLaurin, which certainly helps things.

20:02Um, you know, look, I understand Drake may, and we even saw this in the jets game.

20:08We've seen this in every, every time we've seen Drake may on the field, he is

20:13going to make some plays that make you sit up, you know, the, the throat

20:17of pop Douglas was really good.

20:20I wasn't a huge fan of the run on fourth and eight.

20:22I would have rather him thrown to Hunter Henry, but a lot of people, you

20:26know, get, get excited about that.

20:29Um, you know, I do not, but as soon as Drake may gets in there and who knows,

20:35it could be this week given, you know, San Francisco and their defense and

20:39the hits that Jacoby's taking.

20:41Uh, I, I can tell you, I can guarantee you Drake may is going to make a couple

20:45of plays in every game where you just like that dude's got something special

20:49because he's a big, strong athlete and those things show up at some point in

20:53but nobody, everyone advocating for Drake may, none of them think about the downside.

21:01They just think about, they have visions of Jaden Daniels and CJ

21:05Stroud, like dancing in their heads.

21:07They don't think about, you know, the Bryce Young's and, and, and, uh, and,

21:12and Mack Jones and Sam Darnold's and Zach Wilson's, you know, when I do,

21:17well, we talked about this before.

21:19I do have a, a high level of trust in Drake in terms of his, um, comportment

21:26when, you know, dealing with adversity and things like that, like, I think

21:29he's going to be one of these rare guys that, that can deal with that stuff.

21:33And it's not, he's not going to be overly taxed, but you know, the more he

21:37plays and the more he's out there, the more he's going to get hit, the more

21:41he's going to get rushed, the more he's going to start looking at the rush,

21:45the more he's just not even going to let things develop and he's

21:47just going to take off and run.

21:49And I just don't think those things are good for his development, but you

21:53know, I, I think, I think his time is coming sooner rather than later.

21:58There are a number of people who rubberneck and enjoy car wrecks.

22:02Are car wrecks good?

22:03No.

22:04So the entertainment value is just like, if it's a car wreck, you're

22:07going to watch it, but it's not good.

22:10Uh, and, and people say, oh, well, it's, it's not going to be perfect, Nick.

22:14It's never going to be, nobody is saying that it has to be perfect.

22:18Nobody is saying it has to be perfect.

22:20I said this on my podcast yesterday, discussing Drake may, if you had these

22:25boxes before the season that needed to be checked, I don't think the

22:29Patriots have checked a single box.

22:31Live receiver, play caller, offensive line, head coach, like the operation.

22:37I don't think they've checked the box yet to, to, to justify

22:41throwing Drake may out there.

22:43So it doesn't have to be perfect, but it's got to be better than what I've

22:46and maybe they'll have a shot at, you know, getting for Darien low at left

22:50tackle and one of so Jordan Robinson at left guard, Andrews at center,

22:56slide a window back to right guard.

22:57Give Kate and Wallace the shot at right tackle.

23:00Then maybe with those five guys, you see a little bit better or

23:05hopefully a lot better past protection over time.

23:08And Alex van Pelt figures out how to help his offensive line and his play

23:13calling improves as he gets more reps as the OC and then Kendrick

23:17born comes back in a week or two.

23:19A lot can change in the next two or three weeks, even if it's better,

23:23not great, better to me is when you start to entertain Drake may

23:29not right now, my personal opinion.

23:31Um, Juwan Bentley, quick note here.

23:35Went to the IR Kyle Duggar was named captain.

23:38Greg.

23:39Yeah.

23:40Um, interesting.

23:41I mean, I guess it's not a surprise because, uh, you know, I assume

23:47peppers is already a, a captain.

23:50Isn't he?

23:50Yes.

23:51I believe you look it up and I'm pretty sure he is.

23:54Um, you know, I, I don't see really who else they could have named.

23:59I mean, maybe to buy, um, but you know, basically having two of your,

24:06two of your safeties as the captain.

24:08Um, you know, I'm more worried about the calls.

24:10Like I think, I think what, what went on last week, I wouldn't be surprised

24:14if he is a captain just to confirm.

24:17Um, I wouldn't be surprised if Duggar gets the green dot back this week and,

24:23you know, which is good and bad.

24:26I mean, I think it, it frees up to buy to buy played way too many snaps.

24:30He can't do that.

24:30Maybe you put them on the end and you're mixing packages, but you know,

24:35um, this is a big week for Duggar, making sure everybody gets on the same

24:40page, because as soon as you, if you have a screw up, the 49ers are

24:43going to take it 80 yards.

24:46Speaking of big week, big week for Gerard Mayo after last week and

24:49what we saw in the jets game.

24:50Yeah, a hundred percent.

24:52I mean, we're, we're all sort of watching Gerard and grading things and how

24:56he's doing and things like that.

24:58Um, to me, this is, uh, you know, one of the first really big measures.

25:04I mean, this is a team that got embarrassed on national television.

25:08Um, we, we have no idea how these Patriots are going to respond to Gerard Mayo.

25:15We knew in the past with the past regime, pretty much, maybe not as much as the end.

25:19Um, and, and certainly when, uh, number 12 was that quarterback, you could

25:24always count on the Patriots, like bouncing back the next week after a bad performance,

25:28they would definitely answer the bell.

25:31Can this team do that?

25:32Do they have the, do they have the belief in the coaches that they're going to put

25:36them in the right position to succeed?

25:39Are, or are there internal questions?

25:41And, uh, I think the start of this game is going to be huge.

25:45I think it's a huge moment for Gerard Mayo and sort of, um, gives us an

25:49indication on, you know, what kind of long-term success he's going to have.

25:53Because if these guys fly out there to Santa Clara and again, don't really show

26:00up to play and get run over by the 49ers.

26:05Well, I mean, that's, that's a bad indicator on, you know, how much Gerard

26:09Mayo is actually reaching these guys.

26:11Yeah.

26:11I mean, these guys got to be ready for game time.

26:13And speaking of game time, Greg's ready to talk about game time.

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27:24Uh, Patriots offense.

27:26Let's look at this matchup.

27:27Now Niners coming up on Sunday.

27:29Uh, Patriots offense versus this Niners defense.

27:33Uh, yeah, I mean, look, um, I, like we talked about before, I don't think that

27:43the defensive line of the 49ers is as imposing as it used to be, especially

27:47without, you know, hard grave.

27:49Um, we all know about Nick Bosa.

27:51I think Leonard Floyd on the other side is, um, I don't

27:56even know what he does anymore.

27:57I don't think he's that good.

27:59Um, I don't even know if he was ever that good.

28:01Um, but you know, the big thing is.

28:06They have to, they have to go through a game.

28:08Alex van Pelt has to go through the game and especially this one and say, and this

28:14is what coordinators do in the NFL.

28:16At least some of them, the good ones.

28:17They'll say, I'm not getting my quarterback hit this week, or at least

28:22I'm limiting the hits, especially early on in the game and figure it the hell out.

28:28I mean, if you got to put, you know, I was watching some of the Rams, uh, 49ers

28:34game and Sean McVay, like put multiple people on, on Nick Bosa.

28:41Um, he would put two tight ends on his side.

28:43He would run at Nick Bosa.

28:45He would bring guys in motion and crack down on them.

28:48I mean, you know, just think back to, you know, some of the matchups that, uh, well,

28:53whether it was Joey or Nick, because they're, they're similar, the Bosa

28:56brothers, um, you know, but how many times.

28:59Uh, especially Joey Bosa.

29:01Um, cause I was surprised, Nick, I was looking back at the series.

29:04I, for some reason, I seem to remember more matchups with the 49ers where like

29:09Kyle Shanahan, like completely bits, blitz the Patriots.

29:12Um, but I guess it was just the one matchup, the 33 to six game, uh, at

29:19Gillette stadium, where the Patriots like had no shot, they were like wiped off the

29:22field, but, you know, just think about those Joey Bosa games when he was with

29:26the chargers.

29:27I mean, how many times the Patriots would either run at them or Brady would get it

29:31quick and you see the film and he's just like, I can't get near him.

29:34I can't breathe.

29:35That's what coordinating is.

29:36That's what scheming is like, if you, especially when you're dealing with a

29:4049ers team, which yes, Fred Warner's tremendous, but upfront with all their

29:46issues, like Nick Bosa is a guy you have to take care of the whole game

29:50plan should revolve around that.

29:52So, you know, that's what I want to see.

29:54I want, I want to see them attack the safeties of the 49ers

29:59who I don't think are great.

30:00I think it should be a big tight end game, but I don't care if you got to get out

30:05there and bring on an extra offensive lineman and stick them Nick next to Nick

30:11Bosa, just say, we're going to run the ball and we're not going to get our

30:14quarterback hit.

30:15You could do that if you want.

30:17Alex Van Pelt has just chosen not to do that and he better do it this week.

30:22Or, you know, we're looking at another a hundred yards of passing, which

30:26is just, you know, embarrassing.

30:28I know Michael Hawley doesn't really believe in that stat, but it's a, it's

30:34freaking embarrassing and it needs to be a lot better than that as defense.

30:38Not what you expect.

30:39They're not as good as you would expect their 19th and DVO way.

30:43Uh, they are 30th in opponents yards per play.

30:47They've given up a bunch of yards per play.

30:50Uh, they are 21st and red zone defense.

30:54I know I'm going to sound like a broken record.

30:56I couldn't care less.

30:58Alex, Mr.

30:59Van Pelt, how are you?

31:01If you're listening to the podcast on your way out to San Francisco,

31:04hopefully the flight goes okay.

31:05Run the football.

31:07Okay.

31:08Run the ball, run the ball.

31:10When you look at the Niners defense, they are 28th in run defense DVO way.

31:17They are literally one of the worst run defenses in all of football.

31:22Run the ball, Alex, this defensive line, Greg talked about it earlier

31:27with Javon Hargrave, he's out.

31:29And even with Hargrave, this D line had the third lowest stuff.

31:33Percentage defensive line is not winning against the run.

31:37I watched the Rams game, just like Greg did.

31:39You know what I noticed?

31:40Sean McVay running the football an awful lot up the middle.

31:43Two reasons.

31:44He thinks the middle is soft, which it seems to be soft.

31:48Secondly, you don't want Fred Warner going sideline to sideline.

31:51So let your big offensive lineman get to the second level and punish Warner

31:58and take advantage of that with some good runs, run the football.

32:02The other thing I would say, Greg, what I think we've seen a lot, and this

32:06might change because the jets didn't blitz a lot the first couple of weeks

32:09of the season, and then it was like a blitz of Palooza on Thursday night.

32:13So maybe the Niners will go blitz of Palooza.

32:16Of course, Robert Sala, former Niners defensive coordinator,

32:20a lot of similarities.

32:21Um, but from what I saw and from what I have read and looked into, not a ton

32:27of tricks from this Niners defense.

32:30You're not going to have a lot of simulated pressures.

32:32You know, they have the slack, the second lowest blitz rate in the league.

32:36So they don't blitz the quarterback an awful lot.

32:38Hargrave, uh, I thought had five or six splash plays last week against

32:43the Rams in the run and especially against the pass, he had two or

32:46three dominating snaps and, and, and pass and pass versus pass protection.

32:52So you don't have Hargrave out there.

32:54Like Greg said, game plan for Bosa.

32:57One last note, defensive backs, various wards, a good player,

33:00not great player, good player.

33:02Uh, he'll get caught with his hand in the cookie jar a few times.

33:06The rest of the defensive backs, San Francisco 30th and pass yards per play.

33:11So they've been beaten up in the past game as well.

33:14Uh, who Fonga is a good safety.

33:17He's a guy who is, you know, who's been awarded, uh, for, for his play,

33:22but he's coming off an ACL.

33:24So he's a little bit rusty.

33:26I don't know if he's ready to be back out there.

33:29And interestingly enough, San Francisco, they don't stack the box.

33:34So very often as much as other teams do.

33:37So I just think the opportunity there is to run the football and take

33:41advantage of that up the middle and make this a time of possession game.

33:45I think that's what you've got to do.

33:46All right, before we get to the Patriots defense against the Niners

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34:06Patriots defense, 49ers offense.

34:09Just a couple things here, Greg, to set you up.

34:12Uh, this is a team that I think people misconstrue both McVay and Shanahan.

34:19And they think that all they do is just light it up and do spread

34:21offense and throw the football a ton.

34:23It's not the case that they like to run the ball.

34:26And that's why we talked about it during the summertime when people

34:29were losing their minds about Alex van Pelt saying we're going

34:32to be a run-based offense.

34:33Well, guess what?

34:34The lions, the Rams, the Niners, all of these offenses, people love

34:39their run-based offenses, Greg.

34:41Yeah, I would think that I think, and I mean, it's pretty much a fact

34:46that Kyle Shanahan does his best work.

34:49He's, he's like a cut above everybody else because of what he does in the run

34:54game and, you know, how he, you know, there's a lot of illusions, there's a

34:58lot of motions and it's all designed really to get the run game going and

35:02he'll hit you in a bunch of different, different directions, you know, what's,

35:07what's interesting, I don't know if this surprises you, Nick, but it somewhat

35:11surprised me, you know, because we talk about the Patriots defense

35:14and how talented they are.

35:16Yeah.

35:17D did you know that the Patriots are 26th in defensive DVO way they are, let's

35:23see, they are 25th against the pass and they are 16th against the run last year.

35:30They finished ninth and D defensive DVO way.

35:33So, uh, I'm a bit worried about this and I think that, you know, San Francisco

35:39might not have the weapons without Debo that they normally do, but I do think,

35:43I think we're going to see a lot of, you know, they're going to mix personnel

35:47between two backs and two tight ends and probably go with the two wide

35:52receivers most of the time.

35:54Um, but look, the Patriots, I think Kyle Shanahan, he's just like Bill Belichick

36:00and that, uh, you know, if you're, if you're a team, you like to see those

36:05coaches early on in the season because they put up a mirror and they tell you

36:09exactly where your weaknesses are.

36:10And then you can sort of work towards fixing them.

36:14I think that Kyle Shanahan is going to see a Patriots defense that is weak down

36:18the middle, um, that in the defensive tackle spot, um, opposite to Von Godshall.

36:25They can't stop the run there.

36:26I think the linebackers without Bentley are weak and I think the

36:29safeties are a bit overrated, especially against the past.

36:34So I, I, I look for a lot of, uh, you know, Mason who's, you know, looks

36:39tremendous, I mean, he's such a power back with use check in the backfield.

36:44You're going to get Kittle and multiple tight ends, and there's

36:46going to be a lot of movement.

36:48It's going to be, to me, there's a couple of things that I'm looking

36:51forward for the Patriots defense.

36:52They got to hold up at the point of the attack.

36:54They got to be disciplined in the gap, not only against the run,

36:58but also the past you can't get caught.

37:00This is where I worry about Kyle Duggar.

37:02A lot of the bells and whistles that Kyle Shanahan likes to do.

37:05That's the kind of stuff that Kyle Duggar gets distracted by.

37:08And then all of a sudden he forgets about coverage and then there's a, you

37:11know, a tight end George Kittles going down the field for 60 yards.

37:14Um, so, you know, big week for this defense, you know, if they're, if

37:18they're, if they're as good as they think they are, um, they're going to,

37:23they're going to have to really pull the rope, uh, for this team and

37:28really keep this team in the game.

37:31Whether you believe in Brock Purdy or not, or you think it's a Kyle Shanahan

37:36thing, or I'll just tell you this Brock Purdy is on a heater.

37:40Uh, he's sixth in passer rating.

37:41He's fourth in QBR and he's not dinking and dunking.

37:45He's second in yards per attempt, completion percentage over expected.

37:50He's number one in football.

37:53Uh, the pass game and Greg can break this down better than I can.

37:57I'll just tell you the passing game for San Francisco is crazy efficient.

38:01Uh, there, you know, when you look at it, there are 23rd and pass rate.

38:06Which brings me back to the whole pass run thing.

38:09And Shanahan bases, his offense off of running the football.

38:12They're in the lower 10th, you know, lower third of, uh, of the NFL and pass rate.

38:17They don't throw the football a ton, but they're fourth in yards per play and

38:22they have the second best passing yards per game, again, efficiency.

38:29And we talk about Shanahan.

38:30Let me just give you some numbers here, Greg, this tells you

38:34their second and passing yards per game.

38:36Okay.

38:36I want you to keep that in mind.

38:38When I give you these numbers, they are 31st in the NFL and yards after the

38:43catch, second worst team in football, they are 26th and yak over expected.

38:51So they're not, they're not even expected to, they can't get yards after the catch.

38:57They're 31st 31st.

39:00When you look at the whole average target separation stuff.

39:03So what does that tell you?

39:05It tells you that the receivers don't consistently get open.

39:10They don't gain a ton of separation.

39:12Uh, of course, Debo has been banged up by you, you know, all that stuff.

39:16Uh, they don't get a ton of yak.

39:18So how are they getting all of these passing yards?

39:21Kyle Shanahan, he schemes things up, he schemes them up and any, he makes,

39:28he makes Brock Purdy crazy efficient.

39:30He makes this passing game efficient and he gets the most that he can get out of

39:35pretty much almost anybody on the field.

39:37Brendan Iuke.

39:38Interesting, Greg, he's been pretty ineffective.

39:41Uh, and people can say, oh, well that's because, you know, he, he held out all

39:46of camp and I'm sure that didn't help.

39:49But Grant Cohn, who I follow from my time out in Sacramento, he posted this, uh,

39:54you know, Iuke, he, he hasn't been, uh, as good as you would think he, he should

40:00be, or would be over a several game length.

40:04Now, I mean, when, when you look at his statistics over the last seven games,

40:1023 catches under 300 yards, only one touchdown and quarterback ratings,

40:1581 when throwing to Brandon Iuke.

40:18So he hasn't been super productive in the last seven games.

40:22He's been on the field.

40:23One last thing I'll say about this before we get to the pick.

40:27And I think Greg can, can also highlight some of this stuff too, but I find it

40:32interesting if, if the Patriots are going to stuff the box with their issues against

40:36the run last week, because as Greg said, Shanahan, that'll open up some different

40:41things from Shanahan, but their run game versatility, Greg, you know, you and I had

40:45the conversation earlier in the week about what van Pelt wants to do and they will

40:50run it and I form with use check.

40:53They will run it out of the gun.

40:55They will run it under center.

40:57They will throw tosses at you.

40:59They will run draws.

41:00They will run outside zone.

41:02They will run downhill.

41:04They will throw the whole kitchen sink of run game calls at this Patriots defense.

41:10Greg.

41:11Yeah.

41:12You know, a hundred percent.

41:13And then also add in the fact that they're probably really pissed off that they blew

41:18that game against the Rams.

41:21So they are going to be extra on top of it.

41:23Shanahan's going to be pissed off.

41:25Like, and remember they didn't finish the game against the Rams.

41:28So probably finishing this game, uh, if they get an early lead is going to be,

41:33uh, paramount, but yes, this is, this is the type of attack that, that leaves

41:39defenders dizzy, especially if you haven't seen it very much now, you know, the Rams.

41:45The Cardinals, the Seahawks, like they see it twice a year.

41:49So they're used to it.

41:50I mean, I just, I just can't get the vision of the last time

41:55the 49ers and Patriots met.

41:57Um, I want to say it was in, um, well, it was four years ago.

42:01So it was 2020.

42:02No, it would have been, yeah, 2020.

42:05And it was like 33 to six and it was just a track meet.

42:08And, um, and even going back to when Harbaugh was there, when they

42:13came here with that team and, uh, this is just a, it's a lot different

42:20than the Patriots have seen.

42:21And this is, this is tough.

42:22Thank goodness.

42:23They have 10 days to get ready for this game because they're going to need it.

42:26And that's why I think we're going to get a real litmus test on not only

42:30Gerard Mayo, but all the coaches on this team, you know, can they do the job?

42:34Because they've had plenty of time to get ready for this, to

42:37get the players ready for it.

42:38Will that, will that play out on Sunday?

42:40We'll see.

42:42One last quick note from practice because, uh, Doug Kai just tweeted

42:46this out, Doug, from of course, the Boston Herald, uh, we can update

42:49you on some of the injury situations.

42:51So, uh, according to Doug, Alex Austin was absent, uh, Vidarian

42:57low city, so did not participate.

43:00Anthony Jennings did return.

43:02So, uh, it looks like Demantre Jacobs could be your starting left tackle on,

43:10on Sunday, we'll see if Caden Wallace can get out there.

43:12I mean, Caden Wallace, no note on him.

43:14So I guess he could be ready to go, but, uh, needless to say, not great.

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43:31All right, let's get to this week's pick.

43:33Uh, I am two and one against the spread on the season.

43:36Greg is one, one, and one.

43:38Uh, we are both two and one straight up.

43:41You look at fan duel.

43:42Uh, I saw 10 and a half.

43:44Greg has, we'll call it 10.

43:47So we'll have, uh, the niners minus 10, the over under is 40 and a half.

43:53Greg, you can once again, lead off this week.

43:58If, um, if the 49ers had one last week, I would probably pick the

44:03Patriots to cover the point spread.

44:05But the 49ers are one and two.

44:09They ain't losing this week.

44:11Um, they're not going to fall to one in three.

44:14If, if, if Gerard Mayo and the team, first of all, if they pull an upset,

44:18like this will be one of the greatest Patriots coaching performances like ever.

44:23Um, if they keep it close, I will be impressed.

44:27Um, I don't like the spot for the Patriots at all.

44:31Uh, I like the 49ers big in this game.

44:35I'm picking the 49ers, uh, let's say 32, 32, 10.

44:46Okay.

44:47Um, I think both teams can run the football.

44:52So I do wonder the, the, the one thing about the over under is I don't know how

44:56many possessions there will be in this game, because I think good point.

44:59All teams can run the football.

45:01And if, if the Patriots play it smart, which you never know after

45:05last week, ladies and gentlemen, um, again, Alex, uh, run the ball.

45:10If they, if they run the football and both offenses run the football,

45:14you know, fewer possessions, maybe not as many points as we might anticipate.

45:18Uh, but I, I think, you know, the Niners are going to win this game.

45:22I think the Niners win by, by double digits.

45:25Double digits are always difficult in the NFL when we talk spreads.

45:29Uh, so I'm going to go Niners 24, 13 because of the lack of possessions,

45:37but I wouldn't be surprised if you get up to like 30 to 13, but I think the

45:41Niners, uh, they cover, they win the game.

45:44Uh, I'm going to go under though.

45:45Just guessing that both teams are on the football a lot.

45:48I don't feel good about it.

45:49All right.

45:50I don't hate it.

45:52He's Greg.

45:53I'm Nick enjoy your weekend.

45:55I'm heading to an Oktoberfest on Saturday.

45:57So I am sure as hell going to enjoy my weekend, uh, because of that and good

46:02college football, by the way, if you're, if you're a college football fan, a

46:06couple, couple of good games, uh, this week, so everybody enjoy your weekend.

46:10We'll be back early next week to recap, uh, hopefully what is not a bloodbath.

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