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00:00I am joined by Robert Griffin III, James White, Field Yates, Mena Kimes.

00:13All right.

00:14So first play we're going to look at, second and two, one of the Patriots' first offensive

00:17plays.

00:18What's going on, everyone?

00:23Mike Kadlik, Taylor Kyles here for CLNS Media on a new edition of Hats Daily here on the

00:30CLNS Media Network.

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00:33We'll hear a little bit more from them later.

00:36We usually do these live training camp practice recaps from Gillette Stadium.

00:41A little bit of a change today.

00:42We're back in our home offices.

00:45So I have a rundown.

00:48We have our notes from practice, but I kind of figure that since there wasn't much prep

00:52time, we're kind of fresh off the field.

00:54We're just going to basically throw our notebooks at each other, talk about what happened with

00:58practice today.

00:59And if you guys have any questions as well about practice, feel free to throw whatever

01:03you get in the chat, whatever you want to know, and we'll try and answer it as quickly

01:07and as best as possible.

01:08So Taylor, first and foremost, I think that the number one, A1 topic of today, much like

01:15it is every practice.

01:16I feel like I say this every single time we do a standup, you want to hear about the quarterback,

01:21but it's true.

01:22He's Drake May.

01:23He's the number three pick.

01:24And today I thought things changed.

01:27I don't want to say a lot, but, and I kind of got a smack in the face from some of my

01:33friends down at Foxborough today about my tweet about Drake May, but Drake May did take

01:38reps with the starters today.

01:40And I thought that was noteworthy.

01:42Now did I?

01:43It was a caveat.

01:44Exactly.

01:45There is some caveats, which we'll explain here on the show, if you did see my tweet.

01:49We also explain it in a, in a standup in Foxborough that's yet to be uploaded, but Drake May did

01:54take reps with the ones today for the first time, all training camp.

01:58Now they were limited reps.

02:00They were behind Jacoby Brissett, and they did not actually throw a football with Drake

02:05May in the game, but he had a couple of handoffs.

02:06He got comfortable with David Andrews as his center.

02:10And there was starters along the offensive line and there were starters at wide receiver.

02:14So again, I don't know how noteworthy you really want to call that because again, it

02:18was so few reps, but ultimately with Gerard Mayo saying before practice that it's still

02:24an open competition, although Jacoby Brissett is QB one and that they'll have a decision

02:29after next week's game against Washington or Sunday's game against Washington.

02:33I think at the very least, this is a step in the right direction towards Drake May's

02:37development plan.

02:38And the fact that he, I don't know about could start week one, but could start at quarterbacking

02:43the scene sooner rather than later.

02:45Yeah.

02:46I think there was some pushback saying that Gerard Mayo says something and then doesn't

02:49end up doing it, which I think that him repping, getting the opportunities with Andrews.

02:54They weren't huge.

02:55Again, he didn't even throw on them, but both Andrews, Gerard Mayo and Drake may have acknowledged

02:59that it's still important to have that relationship with the center.

03:03They hadn't even had a quarterback center exchange before the Panthers game until like

03:08way, way earlier in the off season.

03:10So again, I do think this is a competition.

03:13I just think it's a competition that's being framed in the way that Alex Van Pelt and TC

03:17McCartney and Ben McAdoo think is the best for Drake Mays development.

03:21But at the same time, like you mentioned, he's been repping since the last block practices

03:25with the starting receivers, with several of the starting offensive linemen other than

03:29David Andrews, which is why I do understand it is significant that he got any opportunities

03:33with David Andrews, even if he didn't throw in them and Gerard Mayo also.

03:38I'm trying to pepper him with questions where I kind of just pin him into a corner of like,

03:41all right, you said this about starting Drake May where he said after the last game that

03:46the offensive line would not affect whether or not Drake May started.

03:50Now after saying that Drake may struggle with his pre-snap processing and keeping the offense

03:54on schedule and things like that, urgency, all those things that we've said, if Jacoby

03:58Brissett starts, it'll probably because of what he does pre-snap maybe more so than post-snap.

04:04But Gerard Mayo said 100% Drake May is ready to lead a huddle.

04:07So we're getting closer and closer to being like, all right, well, Drake May is better

04:11in practices.

04:12We all think he's better in practices.

04:13I'm not sure how much he could be doing in between the lines that would make it a significant

04:17difference between what we're seeing and maybe what the film says.

04:21And on top of that, this was another day where he and Jacoby still traded off some impressive

04:26throws, but overall Drake May was better.

04:28He had more impressive throws.

04:30He didn't have as many of the throws that made you nervous.

04:32And Jacoby Brissett today had two turnover worthy plays, one that he ended up actually

04:36getting intercepted on, on his first throw team drill.

04:39So I feel like every day it's getting closer and closer to Drake May really could start

04:43for this team.

04:44I do believe it's a competition, but I also think they're having to walk a fine line of

04:48unlike maybe the Cam Newton year a little bit where they truly do believe that Jacoby

04:53could start for them.

04:54I don't know how convinced they were that that was going to be the case with Cam, but

04:58one way or another, I think they want to prepare Jacoby if he is the starter, because you still

05:02need that chemistry with receivers, much less offensive linemen.

05:05So I understand the thinking, but I think the fact that we're seeing more and more of

05:09Drake mixing in with those other guys tells you that internally, they do understand that,

05:14you know, Drake is maybe starting to get on Jacoby's heels, but I think as this week goes

05:18on and then obviously, however, they perform in the preseason, that'll dictate who ends

05:22up most likely being the week one starter.

05:24Right.

05:25And I'll add to it that the whole thing about taking what Gerard Mayo says, and, you know,

05:29maybe he's not telling the truth and maybe he's leading us on and, and we mentioned it

05:32yesterday.

05:33Where, um, or maybe I didn't even mention it on the show, but where with Bill Belichick,

05:39what he said in a press conference, he would either tell you the truth, he would tell you

05:44the truth in a, in a contrived way where he wasn't technically lying, but he wasn't really

05:48saying anything either.

05:49You got to read between the lines.

05:50That's not my job.

05:51Yeah.

05:52Right.

05:53You had to read between the lines of what Bill had to say.

05:54And I remember learning this lesson a few years ago, um, you know, with Alex Barth,

05:58he kind of, uh, he kind of taught me this where Jelani Tavai was like, he didn't look

06:03great in camp.

06:04I wasn't a huge, I wasn't a huge fan of him.

06:06And we were talking on pathway for a while and I was like, I don't see him making the

06:09roster.

06:10I don't know how he's going to make the roster.

06:11And, uh, Barth kept telling me, look, Bill Belichick continues to say that Jelani Tavai

06:16is going to be a part of this team.

06:18And he ended up being a part of this team.

06:19And now obviously I've, you know, I've, uh, I've ate my words on that and I realized Tavai

06:23is good and blah, blah, blah.

06:24Um, you know, I, from there I realized that Bill Belichick always tells the truth.

06:28Now we don't know if Mayo does, but to that point, this is kind of a long winded way of

06:32saying that even with the switch up, right.

06:35That's happened where a couple of months ago, Mayo said that Berset's the starter, Berset's

06:40the starter, Berset's the starter.

06:42And now he's saying that Drake may has a chance to win a job.

06:45I don't think that's like, that's not necessarily the fact that he was lying earlier.

06:49It just means that situation's changed and perhaps Drake may has developed a little bit

06:53while or a little bit faster than they would have liked.

06:55And they feel like they can now, you know, they've seen a little bit more from them.

06:58They seen them in the game, they seen them practice and they feel like they can actually

07:01put them, um, you know, out there on a game field and he had actually went to the game

07:05started week one.

07:06And Mayo's acknowledged that the plan does need to have some flexibility in it because

07:10I really do believe that I think they want to make sure that they're not rushing Drake

07:14out there, which I respect.

07:16I also think that I mentioned in other shows, but I just think Van Pelt's plan may not look

07:21the way we want it to.

07:22But I do think there's an opening for, okay, if Drake is significantly better, he's still

07:27will be someone who's a factor in this competition.

07:30I believe, uh, what Gerard Mayo and Alex Van Pelt said really early on, I think end of

07:35spring, early summer, where Jacoby was the guy they felt was the most ready.

07:38They said he's the most pro ready guy.

07:40And they did believe he could start the entire season.

07:42I was saying, I thought he potentially start the whole season if you needed him to, but

07:47I also have been pretty steadfast on.

07:48I don't think it's going to take that long for Drake may like today.

07:52I asked him a cause Clyde Christensen, who's coached Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady.

07:56When he was in Tampa Bay, he's been around a lot of greats during the draft process.

08:01He compared Drake Mays processing and, you know, intelligence and ability to, uh, to

08:05retain information to Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck, one of the smartest quarterbacks we've

08:10probably ever seen enter the game, Peyton Manning, his guy was a photographic memory.

08:14I don't know if luck does, but I know he's an architect, so there's a very good chance

08:18he has something close to a photographic memory.

08:20I didn't ask Drake about that.

08:22I will at some point figure out whether he has anything close, but he mentioned that

08:25the way he learns and retains information is he's like, I learned it, but I repeat it

08:29to somebody else.

08:30And cause it makes sense.

08:31The best way to know you understand something is if you can teach it to someone else.

08:34So it feels like he's the kind of guy.

08:36And from all we've heard where he learns really quickly, he adapts, he has said, I want to

08:40see how, you know, I do something and then I know how to do it the next time.

08:43So I don't think he's this kind of, you have to put him in bubble wrap because you might

08:48hurt his confidence or the bad mechanics thing I think is legitimate.

08:52I think that's part of the equation for them.

08:54Like TC McCartney mentioned, you want to be able to get through your process, but I don't

08:58think it's so scary to start Drake May.

09:00I think it's just, okay, is he checking all the boxes?

09:02If he is, we'll throw him into the fire.

09:04This is a talented kid.

09:05He's a smart kid.

09:06Any mistake he makes, he's not going to repeat because he wants to be great.

09:09And he has that attention to detail.

09:12And once again, I just feel like the plan for him may not look where we want it to,

09:15but it's starting to progress towards, all right, Drake could win this thing.

09:19Let's see what happens against the commanders.

09:21Yeah.

09:22So let's, let's talk then about what we saw actually on the field today.

09:25Obviously mentioning, mentioning that reset, um, you know, was the starter may was working

09:30in behind them a couple of reps with the ones, but even though it was still beset as the

09:34quote unquote QB one may got a bulk of the reps today, um, as Mayo said, also in preparation

09:39for not only Washington, but also Cincinnati, they're working off some cards trying to give

09:43themselves different looks.

09:44There was more, there was less ones versus ones and more ones versus scout teamwork today.

09:50Drake may got a lot of work.

09:51I thought, um, reset had a couple, not great throws, a couple of turnover worthy plays,

09:57which I'll, I'll let you talk about more in depth.

09:59Um, and Drake may, I still think looked like he was a bit smoother and had a little bit

10:03more control of the offense.

10:04A couple of nice throws, one, a couple of the KJ Osborne one to pop Douglas that was

10:09obviously dropped.

10:10Um, and even like, you know, it's, it's small, but there was one play where it looked like

10:15the play in their preseason game last week against the Eagles where off platform kind

10:20of jumping throw or the one where he kind of pitched out to, I think it was Mitchell

10:23Wilcox, um, with a blitz coming in his face, he did something similar today to Austin Hooper.

10:28So there's just a little bit more of a feel for the game.

10:30I feel like with Drake, I think we kind of already know that.

10:32But overall, what did you see from Berset and may today, uh, down there in Foxborough?

10:37I thought both of the guys started the day well with throws on air.

10:40Now that's not indicative of necessarily how good a quarterback is, but there are some

10:44days where you see, they're just clearly not on the same page with some guys.

10:47They don't have a great feel for how certain guys run routes.

10:50Some days you're on, this doesn't feel right.

10:52Some days it's just like, I don't know, I just don't have it today, but they both definitely

10:55had it early.

10:56You know more about that than I would, Mr. Right.

10:58But, um, it did feel, I remember I was saying, oh, this might be a good day for the quarterbacks.

11:03Now Jacoby did like he did in the last practice, have a couple more wild throws that did get

11:07my attention.

11:08He had one downfield to the Mario Douglas on a dig that looked like it was in between

11:11defenders and other to Taekwon Thornton on a corner route.

11:14It looked like he was attacking the space and cover to between the corner and safety.

11:18Another wow.

11:19Throw for me.

11:20But he also started the day by getting intercepted by Marcella style, throwing a corner to Taekwon

11:24Thornton.

11:25I wish I could see the replay.

11:26Cause I feel like Thornton was covered really well and it may not have been a great route,

11:30but either way, I didn't love the decision.

11:32Now it's so tough because we know Jacoby likes to take chances in practice, um, and

11:37see what he can get away with and things like that.

11:39But I feel like that matchup with Taekwon Thornton, well covered, you just shouldn't

11:42really be testing that window cause he's not like a Jalen Pope where you know, he's going

11:45to attack the ball.

11:47You know, most of his success comes when he's got some separation.

11:50And then the other, uh, near interception was the deep curl to Jayvon Baker.

11:54When there were two defenders closing on the route, I could see it developing.

11:58I had a feeling Jay, uh, Jacoby was going to go there and I was like, please don't,

12:01this throw is not there.

12:02Go somewhere else.

12:03And he did it.

12:04And then A.J.

12:05Thomas almost undercut it for an interception in both plays.

12:07It just didn't feel like good decisions.

12:09Like the Hooper one.

12:10I've been one of the few people, the interception he threw in the preseason against the Eagles,

12:13right?

12:14I'm one of the few people who's tried to give him some slack because I've seen so many times

12:18he tries that throw and it usually works.

12:20It was just that he wasn't on the same page.

12:22This was a situation where I'm like, I don't really know what you were going to get out

12:25of making those throws.

12:26And when you put it on the film, I don't really know how you explain it away.

12:32So those were disappointing from Jacoby.

12:33I thought he was maybe in the midst, like even after the early interception, I was willing

12:36to overlook it.

12:37If he had, you know, just a better day coming forward, right?

12:41And then he had the second one and I'm like, all right, now I, you know, I can't really,

12:44I can't really give it to you.

12:45But Drake continues to show the aggressiveness and the willingness to attack tight windows

12:50and go down field that we've seen from him the past couple of weeks.

12:53He had back to back throws in seven versus sevens down the seam.

12:57The first one he completed the KJ Osborne, who he has great rapport with from what we've

13:01seen the past couple of weeks.

13:03Another was a very aggressive throw down the seam to Austin Cooper.

13:07I believe it was.

13:08Brendan Schooler was all over this.

13:10Literally, Drake just put it over Schooler's helmet and gave Hooper a chance to make the

13:13catch through him.

13:14Kind of like what we saw from Kawan Baker with Joe Milton, where he just went up and

13:18basically used the helmet to help him secure the catch.

13:21It kind of looks like what I did when we were playing with the football with you and I put

13:24it on Amit's head and I just threw it up to you a couple of weeks ago.

13:27That's exactly what it looked like.

13:28Hooper couldn't come down with it, but it's the kind of play where in a certain situation,

13:32I would love to see Drake try that, where like Hunter Henry might come down with it.

13:36Also saw him attacking zone coverage again, where you saw, looked like he hit a sail route

13:40to Jalen Rager between a couple of defenders.

13:43There was one other throw that I really like.

13:44I'm trying to find it in my notes.

13:45Did you already mention the Osborne?

13:49Yeah, the seam to Osborne.

13:51There was one other throw.

13:52Yeah.

13:53I'll figure it out somewhere over here.

13:54But yeah, overall, I thought it was a good day from Drake.

13:56Oh, the one to DeMario Douglas, where he threw it really early because DeMario spent time

14:04running under the ball, right down the middle, deep downfield.

14:08DeMario Douglas is wide open, thanks a lot, because of the throw.

14:12But I don't know if he didn't track it the right way because he basically just put one

14:15hand out to grab it, which you don't see from Pop.

14:18He's a guy who fully extends and goes all out.

14:20Maybe he thought he had to dive for it and was like, I'm not going to do that in practice

14:24when there's no one around me.

14:26Maybe he didn't judge it the right way and kind of slowed up a little bit.

14:29Either way, it looked like a good ball from Drake.

14:31Not a great play that time from Pop.

14:34One of the few times he's made a mistake, but again, putting a bow on this, the aggressiveness,

14:39the willingness to attack downfield.

14:40There was one or two plays where it felt like he had to get deep into his progression.

14:43I'm not sure if it was because he held onto the ball or if someone wasn't open, but you

14:47also didn't see the turnover where he plays.

14:50Sometimes it mixed their way in with Drake, where you're like, you know what?

14:53I understand you're trying to make a play.

14:54Just learn.

14:55Don't do that in the future.

14:56But yeah, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody who thought that Jacoby was set

15:00out a better day than Drake, who again, continues to make the strides you're hoping to see.

15:04Yeah.

15:05I just wonder if Jacoby's pressing a little bit at this point, right?

15:09Where he hears all the noise and it's talk about Drake May could take him over as soon

15:13as week one.

15:14And are you the starter?

15:15Mayo saying you were the starter and now you're not.

15:18And you get these questions and you hear about it and Drake May is playing better.

15:23So my whole thing with Jacoby was set early on in training camp was he understands the

15:27offense and he's at least putting the ball or throwing to places where he thinks it's

15:33the right decision.

15:34And oftentimes it was the right decision.

15:37Sometimes the ball doesn't get there and sometimes it's overthrown or underthrown and he doesn't

15:39have the best arm, but he's at least making the right move, like the right play, right?

15:43The right read where now it seems like he's not even doing that in practice.

15:48These two turnover worthy plays, the one to Hooper in the preseason game where it's like

15:53not putting the ball in harm's way was your specialty and it has been Jacoby reset specialty

15:57over the course of his career.

15:59And he just hasn't been doing that lately.

16:01And so I wonder if he's maybe pressing trying to now he sees Drake May doing better and

16:05him doing worse and he has to make more plays to try and make this less of a competition

16:09and more of his job, at least for week one.

16:12But yeah, I still think that may has been the better player, the better quarterback

16:17ever since last Thursday's preseason game.

16:19And I will say too, just a little note on the play from pop where it was almost identical

16:24to the one you saw in the, in the preseason game to Jayvon Baker.

16:28It was a Baker ran a post on the right side, pop this time from the left side, you know,

16:33pass coverage, guys trailing him, hits him right in the hands and both guys just drop

16:37it.

16:38So you see that may has, you know, the ability, the aggressiveness to make those throws guys

16:42just now need to come down with a football.

16:44And this offense is going to really start clicking once Drake May's out there.

16:47Once these guys, you know, start bringing down the catches.

16:51So we'll talk more about all of this.

16:53We'll hit the offensive line, we'll hit the rest of our notes from defensive guys, injuries,

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18:15All right, Taylor, let's do the offensive line now.

18:17Um, cause they were sort of a topic of discussion with the quarterbacks and may being out there

18:22with Dan, uh, David Andrews, et cetera.

18:24And it was that normal starting offensive line that we've seen throughout the majority.

18:29Now majority now of camp would be very low as the left tackle city.

18:33So as a left guard, David Andrews at center, Michael Dwayne, who went right guard and troops

18:37core of war at right tackle.

18:38That seems like that's the plan they want to go forward with.

18:40Uh, however, Darian low leaves practice today, uh, with what looked to be like a lower back

18:45upper body type injury was grabbing the left, you know, backside of his back as he went

18:49off the field, excuse me, spoke with trainers, went to the medical tent shed, whatever we

18:54want to call it.

18:55And then ended up leaving the field for good and did not return in, in his absence.

19:00We see rookie Caden Wallace come over and take laps reps at the left tackle spot, uh,

19:05for Baderian lows absence.

19:07And at that point, at this point now it's really starting to get thin at the tackle

19:11spot guard looks okay right now.

19:13Nick Leverett did return today.

19:14He was the backup center behind David Andrews, but for the rest of the offensive line, it's,

19:19it's looking like slim pickings.

19:20And the fact that not only do you have players that we talk about and guys like the Darian

19:24low and to score for, who are, I guess, replacement level starters, backup types, swing tackles,

19:30whatever.

19:31But now you don't even have the depth behind those guys.

19:33And we know tackle is so hard to come by, uh, in this league.

19:36So what'd you make a Lowe's, um, Lowe's injury?

19:38What'd you make the shuffling again along the offensive line today?

19:41What'd you see in general?

19:42I mean, we saw, we saw Caden Wallace take over at left tackle when Baderian low went

19:47out, but you have to wonder if he even would have been slotted there because typically

19:50Calvin Anderson has been the top backup at left tackle.

19:55And that forced Caden Wells to play left for the top offense.

19:57And then right for the second offense, then you really only had Kellen Dice and Zuri Henry

20:02as your depth tackles.

20:03We were already talking about how the Patriots needed to keep their eye on the market.

20:07It doesn't even have to be, what is the name of the guy who just got released from the

20:10Titans?

20:11Crazy Dalton.

20:12Oh my gosh.

20:13It's driving me nuts.

20:14I think Davis, I'll find it on day or something, but we've been talking about how they need

20:22to really monitor the offensive line, waiver, wire for agency, whatever.

20:26I don't even think you need a starter or even quality backup.

20:29I think you just need a warm body at this point because it's getting so low.

20:33Like you're at a point right now where Caden Wallace may have to play the entire preseason

20:38game or the vast majority of it because you don't want to have Drake Mayhem there with

20:42Kellen Dice or Zuri Henry at tennis daily, by the way, is the guy's name is daily man.

20:47According, according to Chris Price, uh, the Patriots have been one of several teams that

20:52have inquired on daily.

20:53So that's, that's one to watch right now.

20:55I got to get that name that in, in Christian may Christian go for it, Christian, Christian.

21:03Oh my God.

21:04I know it.

21:05Just tell me, just tell me Christian McCarroll, Christian McCarroll, Christian McCarroll,

21:09Christian McCaffrey gets in my head.

21:11I'm sorry, but they need bottom line.

21:13They need to definitely have an eye and add somebody to tackle because now it's getting

21:17so thin that you're having one guy who's having to play with the starters and backups, and

21:21that's not ideal.

21:22I love Caden Wallace getting reps.

21:24Don't get me wrong, but at the same time, like you need to have these guys on some kind

21:27of pitch count.

21:28Um, and right now that spot is looking even scarier than it already did.

21:32And it's scary and low because he's, he was like, he's getting positive momentum.

21:35So you hope that he's back out there soon.

21:37Yeah, for sure.

21:38Again, he leaves with a, with a lower back there.

21:40Um, Lynn Robinson, uh, worked in a little bit with the, with the starting team again

21:43today, I believe behind city.

21:45So city.

21:46So, uh, it, it feels like that's been a competition now with, with Wallace getting some reps there.

21:50I wonder if that's a, uh, you know, let's see what he can do with this first, with this

21:55first team.

21:56And then maybe if, if he does well, they can shuffle everything else along.

21:59Um, but certainly again, with, with the depth kind of depleting on the outside, you wonder

22:04if the, the move from right guard to right tackle with Michael, one who could potentially

22:10happen sooner rather than later.

22:11He in theory is a, I don't want to say he was a backup tackle for them, but he, he adds

22:16depth.

22:18Wallace then doesn't have to worry about flipping back and forth as much.

22:21Uh, and you go from here, but certainly with, if low goes down again, we don't know what

22:25it is.

22:26We don't know how much time, like he could be back tomorrow and everything's fine, but

22:29you saw it really where it kind of slapped them in the face today, where.

22:32But Aaron Lowe goes down and they're putting a rookie third round pick as the starting

22:36left tackle and the backup right tackle almost immediately.

22:39So again, Calvin Anderson out Nick Leverett, it's a guy who I believe played tackle at

22:43one point for the Buccaneers as well.

22:45I believe it was like one drive in Tom Brady's last game.

22:48It was the final drive.

22:49Somebody must've gotten hurt and they were like, all right, Nick, we need your right

22:52tackle buddy.

22:53And he actually was pretty good.

22:54I wouldn't ever want him there again, but he played well.

22:57Also regarding that guard spot, um, drive Mayo said it was a competition with hit with

23:02city.

23:03So in Leighton Robinson, he didn't, you know, sugarcoat it or anything.

23:05Right.

23:06We've all been saying city.

23:07So I do think he's a very promising player.

23:09I think the strike system will work very well for him.

23:12But when you look at his preseason tape, Leighton Robinson, I don't want to say he's

23:15been perfect.

23:16No player's perfect, but he is putting up some very good tape and there's very little

23:20that you look at and you're like, Ooh, that's not going to play where a city has had some

23:25rough losses.

23:26Like he's been good overall, but there's been like four or five plays where he whiffs, he

23:31ends up on the ground.

23:32And it's just one of those ugly losses that in a real game, you're thinking like, dude,

23:36that can't happen, especially can't happen multiple times when you're playing guys who

23:39aren't even going to start for the teams they're on.

23:41So I didn't want to blow it up because again, this is preseason.

23:44There's things these guys got to learn city is a second year player in the NFL who's learning

23:48a whole new system.

23:49So I wanted to give him some leeway there.

23:51But if it's gotten to the point where external internally, they think it's so bad that they're

23:55willing to let this rookie who I, again, is practicing well, but it's still a rookie really

24:00compete for his job.

24:01I think that's a, that's pretty telling.

24:02So city.

24:03So, you know, might truly be on, you know, on watch, I'll say he's on watch.

24:09All right.

24:10That's interesting to me.

24:11All right.

24:12We're going to get to, again, not, not a ton to take away from today's practice.

24:15I love the big headline again, was, was Drake may there and some of the offensive line shuffling.

24:20So I'm going to send us to break in a second and then we'll wrap it up with some of our,

24:25you know, injury stuff and kind of housekeeping stuff.

24:27But I did want to quickly throw a couple of darts on the board here with just some stuff

24:30that was in my notebook that we didn't really talk about in the standup and maybe we can,

24:35you know, try and pull a little bit more out of it.

24:37One thing was that Alex Austin saw the cornerback to starting reps today, mostly opposite Christian

24:42Gonzalez.

24:43Yesterday it was Marco Wilson.

24:44So that's clearly still a position they're going to rotate through.

24:47Jalen Polk.

24:48I know we don't have a ton on wide receivers today, but I thought he got a lot of run.

24:52Not necessarily with that starting group.

24:54It was more.

24:55No, it wasn't the starters.

24:57He was with Jacoby and I didn't see a whole lot of KJ Osborne.

25:00So I thought I saw Osborne in like one of the early 11 on 11 periods and then later

25:04they went to Jalen Polk.

25:06So they're kind of continuing to work him in with the stars, but there's been times

25:11where I thought Polk was kind of, he was out there, but he wasn't being used as much where

25:17I thought today he was actually getting some volume.

25:19I know he had three catches on four targets at one point in practice.

25:22I didn't, I didn't pay attention enough later on to him to see if he got any more targets

25:27out there.

25:28But today I felt like there was a, was more of a volume day for Jalen Polk.

25:31Yeah.

25:32It was the early 11s.

25:33Jacoby hit him on a flat, on a bootleg, then Drake through two screens to him on RPOs.

25:38It was a period where they were just doing basically runs, like one play action and then

25:42RPOs.

25:43And then there was another one.

25:44It was overthrown where he was well covered by John Jones downfield.

25:48I wasn't sure if it was miscommunication or if Drake was trying to kind of make a safe

25:51play.

25:52So that's a lot of reps.

25:53You mentioned the RPOs.

25:54That was one more thing I wanted to throw out there from, from my notebook today was

25:58there, there was a little bit of a, I'm trying to think of the word.

26:03I'm looking for, but there was a, there were a lot of RPOs called.

26:05I thought when Drake was out there, not, not a ton, not a ton more than Jacoby, but it

26:09was noteworthy because on one of them, he made the correct read on.

26:14It looked like a, a read slant backside to a case on booty.

26:17He pulled the ball fast, hit him right in stride.

26:19It was perfect.

26:20You know, he had a defender on his hip and he got past them, but there was another one

26:23where they had leverage on the outside.

26:26I believe he could have handed it off or he could, you know, throw it out quick on a screen

26:28to Jalen Polk that you just mentioned.

26:30And this time he read the leverage and the numbers they had on the outside correctly,

26:34where I believe we were talking in last Thursday's game and we couldn't figure out if it was

26:40an RPO and if he had to go there or not, broke it down.

26:45And I still didn't really, I didn't know if it made a whole lot of sense, but there was

26:48a play where may threw it out to, I believe it was poke in the game as well.

26:54And Jaheim bell had to block two guys out there and it was a two on two and he threw

26:58it out there anyway.

26:59It felt like the incorrect read.

27:00I don't know.

27:01RPS.

27:02So I thought on an RPO, so I thought it was noteworthy that he went out there and actually,

27:05you know, succeeded in that read today.

27:07So that was kind of the last thing on my notebook.

27:08Anything else you wanted to throw out there before we do our, do our ad and our quick

27:12hitters at the end?

27:13Oh, I'll save it for the quick hitters.

27:14And then I figure we maybe answer a couple of questions cause I know people have some

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28:39Quick hitters and some housekeeping stuff to wrap this thing up.

28:42Taylor, I will say that Patriots signed two linebackers yesterday.

28:46They also claimed Matt Landers off waivers, a wide receiver, the linebackers, Christian

28:52McCarroll and Colby Jones, two guys who Taylor's still trying to figure out their names a little

28:58bit.

28:59So am I.

29:00But that was because Josh Uche, O'Shane Zemenez were out yesterday, weren't even out there.

29:05So it was kind of a thought that, you know, they're trying to help out their edge depth.

29:08O'Shane Zemenez and Uche then come out today in full pads, but quickly leave and get to

29:14get some work on the lower field and then end up coming back in street clothes.

29:17So they're continuing there with the linebackers.

29:20And I know you had an observation from McCarroll from practice today.

29:23Yeah.

29:24So they did like a thud period.

29:25It's kind of like Oklahoma's without the beginning where you start on your back and then stand

29:28up.

29:29And there was a rep with McCarroll and Deshaun Fenwick.

29:33Something happened the first time they had to do it again.

29:35That second time around, McCarroll stood Fenwick up.

29:38It was a really loud hit.

29:40Got some love from Demarcus Covington, which is always cool to see for a guy's first day

29:43at a new camp.

29:44Also from that period, Keon White and Ramond Ray Stevenson collided.

29:48You could see, you just saw the matchup, you're like, oh, it's going to be good.

29:52That thud was so loud, like you could just hear both their pads crunching.

29:56I would call it a stalemate.

29:57Like I think Keon stopped Ramond Ray in his tracks, Ramond Ray kept his feet moving and

30:02kind of like got a little bit of push after that was a really cool matchup.

30:06Let's see, emptying out my notes real quick.

30:08Keon White got his hand on a tight end screen against a scout team, batted Joe Milton's

30:13pass in the air, ended up getting caught by Jacob Warren.

30:17Still an impressive play.

30:18Alex Austin repped on the outside at times across from Christian Gonzalez, which we've

30:24seen a lot of Marco Wilson, so I thought it was significant.

30:27But whenever the scout offense was on the field and the top defense was out, it was

30:31Christian Gonzalez, Jonathan Jones on the outside and Marcus Jones in the slot.

30:36I thought that was pretty significant.

30:38Also during the thud period, Joe Giles Harris got in trouble for like not crazy trouble,

30:43but I think he was too aggressive and tackled somebody and tried to finish through contact

30:48and you could hear Mayo.

30:51I don't know what he said exactly, but it was long lines like, hey man, you know, pull

30:54up a little bit.

30:55And then the last one emptying it out, Marcus Jones picked off Joe Milton when he, when

31:00Joe Milton was a scout team quarterback.

31:02Really cool play.

31:03Marcus Jones was like in the flat as that cloud defender and then crept up.

31:07I don't think Joe Milton saw him and then jumped up and made an interception.

31:09I was just going to say there's no way Milton saw him because from my angle, I wasn't watching

31:14the quarterback.

31:15I was watching the defense and it looked like Jones just like ran the route for Joe Milton

31:17and just basically caught it in stride and kept running.

31:19It was awesome.

31:20Yeah, it was good play.

31:21That's pretty much it.

31:22Yeah.

31:23All right.

31:24I will just quickly add Sean Wade.

31:25Someone who's been out, did start, start practice in pads and participated.

31:29He ended up leaving practice early with, I don't know if it's a new injury, a different

31:33injury, but he left with a trainer and did not return.

31:35And then quick note on the tight end room as well.

31:37Austin Hooper, after returning to practice yesterday and not participating, he did return

31:42today and did participate.

31:43So some good news on the tight end front.

31:46Also Mitchell Wilcox, who was out yesterday as well, was out there, not in pads, a non-participant,

31:50but he at least stretched and got some work in out there in some non-padded drills.

31:56So a little bit more help, a little bit more, I guess, optimism in the tight end room.

32:01I think additionally with Hunter Henry, is that someone who Mayo called day to day?

32:06No, he said that Uche's day to day and Mapu's week to week.

32:12Okay.

32:13So nothing yet on Hunter Henry.

32:14So we'll see what happens there.

32:15He wasn't out there today as well.

32:18While we're talking about tight ends, you want to answer a question real quick about

32:20Absolutely.

32:21So CJO is on one of the pads now that he's released.

32:24Yeah, I looked at the tape.

32:26He actually played really poorly against the Patriots.

32:28Didn't have any positive plays.

32:29I've not heard good things from Philly's beat about him.

32:33Just from what I've read online.

32:34I haven't talked to anybody.

32:35If they need a warm body, sure.

32:37But if guys are starting to get healthier, like we did see Hooper back, Wilcox, we have

32:41no idea how close he is to returning, but I wouldn't rule it out because they are very

32:45kind of like tackle where it's like, Hey, it doesn't really matter how good the guy

32:48is.

32:49You need somebody to put out on the field.

32:51Although they do have like Jacob Warren, you know, Michael Petway.

32:55So they're not desperate, desperate, like they are a tackle.

32:59But if they sign somebody like an Uzama or somebody cheaper, who they know is going to

33:03be okay with really just being here for like a week or two, then I can see something like

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40:24Drake getting rattled or maybe developing bad habits if those things aren't on the table

40:29and we know that he's fine running the pre step operation if Mayo's being honest and

40:32he's outplayed the set why wouldn't you play him?

40:35So that's where I think they probably wouldn't be completely honest with us where if we're

40:39asking if are you worried about this guy getting hurt or worried about his development they're

40:43not going to be like yeah we're scared and I know that's not what you're looking for

40:46but I still think that that's the case and I still feel like they have a tough stretch

40:50to begin the season with Cincy and San Fran and a short week against the Jets and the

40:57soft landing spot still feels like Miami week 5 and I feel like that's probably the earliest

41:04we're going to see him and I hope I'm wrong because I think Bay's better but I still feel

41:08like week 5 is the sweet spot.

41:10I just look at Jacoby in these practices compared to what Drake has looked like in these practices.

41:14Let's talk about how tough these defenses are this is still a team that wants to win

41:17games like again unless you are worried about Drake in terms of like potentially regressing

41:24or what have you if you think it's rushing I don't want again I cannot emphasize enough

41:28I do not want him rushed out there right if there's a reason they're not telling us that

41:32they're like it's not time for sure that's it's not worth just winning games and hurting

41:36your quarterback but if you're like no Drake can go out there and play if we need him to

41:40and you're facing all these good defenses you think Jacoby is going to show them enough

41:45that they're not going to at least that's why I say I think that Drake's going to start

41:48before October because I think against that tough competition where the offense does need

41:52someone to help elevate them a bit I like pop I like KJ I like poke I think the interior

41:58of the offensive line is solid I feel like one of those two tackle spots will be good

42:01enough I just don't know if Jacoby is the guy who's going to take you from a team that

42:05maybe wins on the last possession to one that's actually competitive throughout the entire

42:09game this is supposed to be quick hitters I think we saw for five minutes but it's still

42:12a it's a it's a fair conversation it's the it's the conversation so it's okay that we

42:17went off on this one this is like the this is the one storyline that you know we can

42:21talk about freaking Matt Landers and Christian McCarroll all we want but nationally and the

42:27Patriots brand as a whole like with with you know with what fans want and what fans looking

42:33for Drake may the quarterback position is the conversation so it's okay that we went

42:37off that one other is there anything else we can hit before we get out here there's

42:40one clarify so Drake has not in my that I've seen thrown a pass against the starting defense

42:46right I believe that's correct because today was the one time where he was with starters

42:51yeah defense but he handed off correct correct usually it's a mix like usually plays the

42:56backups but if he does play starters it's because like today they had the starting they

43:01had like backup corners but the rest of the defense was starters then they flipped it

43:05where it was starting corners and the rest were backups which I think is Pellegrino saying

43:09he wants to have different matchups and give guys different coverage assignments but yeah

43:13that's another big indicator is that may has yet to play against the entire starting defense

43:21let's see if anything else we can actually hit really quick I've seen some questions

43:24about my poop no updates on my poo other than the fact that he is a week to week situation

43:30yep let's see who starts left tackle week one I think it's going to be low it's still

43:35considering low barring barring today's barring today's injury being more serious than than

43:42it looked it's low and I don't think there's a question here's a phone maybe we can end

43:46on this surprise cuts this year boy honestly I would have said my Purcell who they did

43:55cut was a surprise I thought he'd been playing pretty well I didn't see that coming what

43:59about a guy like Tristan Hill is that even a surprise I think I would so what I would

44:04pick would probably be Armand Watts because he was signed as a guy where he kind of assumed

44:09he was going to play a role on this defensive front especially because the depth isn't great

44:13but he's been playing deep into preseason games and he hasn't been particularly good

44:16or made an act against like backups to backup so I would say probably Armand Watts I do

44:22want to say chooks but I also don't want to like open that can of worms again and I don't

44:27feel like yeah I don't think he's gonna get cut but that's why it would be such a surprise

44:32I wouldn't be a surprise that would be beyond a surprise because he's he's there starting

44:37X and I don't think it's yeah I'm trying to think I'm trying to pull out another surprise

44:43cut before he leaves.

44:44Is Mitchell Wilcox a surprise?

44:45No.

44:46Do you think that was a surprise at this point I think yeah he's been repping with the ones

44:51so much I feel like even if he doesn't play like he may be a game day inactive but I think

44:57they're gonna so when I'm on the roster um linebacker is set cornerback who I don't

45:06really think anybody would be a surprise Isaiah Bolden it's not a surprise though that's not

45:10a surprise you're right surprise a little bit because they clearly like him he's starting

45:15on special teams he's been there starting slot corner at times I feel like it would

45:20be a bit of a surprise Joe Cardona surprise cut Tucker Addington takes over my gosh that

45:26I don't think it's I would say Joey Sly would be a surprise cut I like that that's a good

45:31one to end on Joey Sly after today would be a surprise cut there we go all right so that's

45:35gonna do it for us here today on Patriots Daily here on the CLS Media Network we'll be back

45:40tomorrow with some more Patriots coverage heading into I believe what is day 19 of Patriots

45:46training camp there's gonna be 20 total practices that we cover every single day here on Pats

45:51Daily we'll do Thursday we'll do Friday and then we're gonna get into our game week lineup

45:55here so we'll keep you guys posted on what's going to happen on Pats Daily here are you

46:02laughing at the mustache comment yeah okay so I've told my girlfriend Liz this I had a teacher

46:08in middle school who said his family had never seen him without facial hair because he married

46:12his wife with it he never shaved it so his kids never saw him without it I told her I was like

46:16you will never in your life see me in something that isn't a picture without facial hair I did

46:21once in college because I had to for my fraternity and I looked like a I looked like a six foot three

46:26baby I'm never doing that again so hell no no surprise this baby's locked in for life maybe

46:31we'll maybe when we get down the stretch like I was just saying with with some of our uh our

46:36in-season pods maybe we can make some sort of bet between me and you where the loser has to go clean

46:41shaven after the season we'll we'll go like a we'll find a win total that we disagree on we'll

46:46pick one side and go from there that could be well I'd rather let you live in my house for a

46:51game myself so yeah I'm sorry we're gonna have to figure something else out all right we'll

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