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00:00I'm joined by Robert Griffin III, James White, Field, Yates, Mena Kimes.
00:17All right, so first play we're going to look at, second and two, one of the Patriots' first
00:21offensive plays.
00:27What's going on, everyone?
00:28Can you hear me?
00:29Yeah.
00:30Okay, so the reason I ask you to hear me, because we don't have our things up, and normally
00:33it says unmuted, and then I have to wait until it unmutes, but we're good.
00:35We're here.
00:36I'm Mike Kavlik.
00:37He's Taylor Kyles, and we're back with another episode of the Patriots Daily Podcast here
00:41on the CLNS Media Network.
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00:46We'll hear from them later, but what we're really here for today, Taylor, is to preview
00:49Patriots vs. Jets.
00:50It's a Friday edition of Pat's Daily here.
00:53We pushed it for a day, made sure we had all of our P's and Q's ready for this 2-5 Jets
00:57team.
00:59Overarching 30,000 feet on this team before we get into the nitty-gritty of this preview.
01:03Two-and-five Jets coming to Foxborough to take on the unfortunately one-and-six New
01:09England Patriots.
01:10Hasan Reddick comes back for the Jets as they go into, was this their second or third week
01:16with a new head coach?
01:17When did Salah get fired?
01:18That's a good question.
01:19Yeah, so a couple of weeks, though, interim head coach Jeff Ulbrich, and he mentions today
01:24as well that Hasan Reddick is going to play for the Jets after they reworked his contract,
01:30him and Drew Rosenhaus, with the team.
01:32So a little bit of help there for the Jets off of the edge.
01:34A couple of other injury notes that we'll get to, Taylor, and we'll kind of talk about
01:39that as we go through our keys to a potential Patriots victory.
01:43But first and foremost on, and I just had it, I'm sorry, on the Jets side of things,
01:50I believe it was Connor Rogers had it, our good friend Connor Rogers.
01:55Michael Carter, DJ Reed coming back in the Jets secondary, massive for them.
01:59Morgan Moses looks like he's trending in the right direction as well.
02:03And yeah, they get Reddick back as well.
02:06So it's going to be tough sledding potentially for these Patriots getting a couple of their
02:10guys back.
02:11But the Patriots on their side of things, injury-wise, we were just down at practice.
02:14Jalen Polk with the head injury, Leighton Robinson with the ankle, Jonathan Jones has
02:19been dealing with a shoulder, and Daniel Kuale with an abdomen injury.
02:22Those four guys were not at practice on Friday.
02:25We'll have an injury report in a couple hours here to see if they end up getting ruled out
02:29early.
02:30If that was just a maintenance day, things like that, we'll kind of be able to glean
02:33a little bit more once those come out.
02:34But Taylor, when you look at those four injuries before we get into the game itself, what do
02:40you make of Robinson still not practicing and then Jon Jones and a Kuale popping up?
02:43Kuale is going to be tough as we get into the run game, sort of, where do you see those
02:48impacting them across the board, I guess?
02:50Yeah, with Leighton, we spoke to Scott Peters this week, and he was talking about how Leighton
02:54really was getting better and had a good start to the game last week before he unfortunately
02:58got hurt.
02:59Now it's likely going to be City so at right guard, and City struggled last week in the
03:02run game.
03:03It wasn't all great.
03:04You know, there were some times where he really wasn't able to get enough movement, and that
03:08kind of led to some bad runs.
03:09Also in pass protection, like we've talked about it, the third down to Kendrick Bourne,
03:13where he immediately gets beat when he tries to shoot his punch against Eric Armstead,
03:17and then Drake Mays pressure, and it contributes to that incompletion.
03:20So Leighton Robinson wasn't perfect or anything, but really City.
03:24So it seems like they haven't really won it in the lineup, unless there's an injury, and
03:28I feel like that's kind of telling.
03:30You know, City looked solid last year, and it's not even like, it's curious because if
03:34everyone was playing poorly and like regressing, I would think, oh, it's the coaching staff,
03:37but like Gary and Lo get better.
03:39Michael Jordan struggled as a run blocker, and we'll get into that.
03:42But in pass protection, he's actually been pretty solid.
03:44Kevin Brown has been really good for them after coming in, and not really having a ton
03:48of time to prepare.
03:49So it's really odd that we've seen City regress, but he's likely going to be a right guard.
03:53Defensively, I think Daniel Equale is a very underrated potential loss for this team if
03:59he isn't able to go, because he's having a career year, man, and we'll show it in the
04:02clips, but he's like one of the guys where when he gets singled, he very rarely gets
04:06blocked out of the play.
04:08He's had a couple games this year, I think, that were the best in his career.
04:11So if he isn't able to go, then you're relying on guys like Eric Johnson, JaQualen Roy, Jeremiah
04:17Farms maybe.
04:18And JaQualen Roy honestly has been solid, and he's shown some good things, but he's
04:22been inconsistent.
04:23Eric Johnson had a really rough start to last week's game, wound up on the ground a few
04:28times, got better as it went on, and Jeremiah Farms was a healthy scratch last week.
04:31So you don't have quite as much confidence if Daniel Equale isn't in there, also considering
04:36Equale recently has shown a little bit more as a pass rusher, although I think at this
04:41point he's more of a run defender.
04:43And Jon Jones, that one kind of speaks for itself, like that's one of your best cornerbacks.
04:46We talked about trade candidates, the Athletic mentioned he could potentially be moved for
04:50like a sixth-round pick.
04:51I don't like that, or seventh or something like that.
04:55Yeah, later round swap or whatever it was, right?
04:57Yeah, but he's still a good player.
05:00He's lost a step, and you've seen that shown up a couple times.
05:02I know it kind of got bullied, him and Marcus Jones, last time the Patriots and the Jets
05:06faced off, because they're undersized guys who had to tackle bigger receivers.
05:10And obviously, Alan Lazar is still there, and now they got Devontae Adams, and Garrett
05:13Wilson's always a challenge, especially because now you do have those two really good receivers
05:18on the outside.
05:19Christian Gonzalez, obviously, will probably do well against either one of them, or at
05:23least be very competitive.
05:25But Michael Wilson, we talked about this, we actually haven't heard his name very often,
05:28so maybe he's improved.
05:30I think that was the game where he ended up getting benched.
05:32I think maybe he either didn't play the next game, or his snaps went down for a bit, but
05:37he's kind of rebounded.
05:38But still, you'd like to have Jon Jones out there, for his toughness as a run defender,
05:42and for his intelligence and stickiness as a coverage guy.
05:44So yeah, defensive side of the ball, if those two guys can't go, those are big potential
05:48losses for the Patriots.
05:49Yeah, for sure.
05:50Another update along the offensive line is from Mike Reese, with Darian Lowe, saying
05:54that his ankle responded well to the last two days of practice.
05:57He notes that there's still 48 hours to kick off, but things are moving in the right direction.
06:02Mayo also mentioned today, before practice, that he didn't want to necessarily give too
06:07much because they hadn't practiced yet, but they were seeing where Lowe was going to go,
06:13and it seems like, again, he's moving in the right direction.
06:15So he may end up suiting up and playing left tackle for the Patriots.
06:19Before we get into a couple of the keys here, Taylor, I just want to mention to anybody
06:24who's watching, we're going to also do a quick Q&A at the end of this episode as well.
06:27So if you have any Patriots Jets questions, questions surrounding the team, what's going
06:32on this week, post-London trip, Drake May, all that stuff, we'll try and get to some
06:36of those after we get into these keys to the game.
06:39But first and foremost, Taylor, let's start with the Patriots establishing the run.
06:44Because the last time these two teams played, they rushed for only 78 yards, but it was
06:48only on 15 carries.
06:50So they still got a good push, 5.2 yards per carry.
06:53But over the last two weeks, it's been a completely different ballgame from the run game.
06:58Haven't ran the ball well at all since Drake May has become their starting quarterback.
07:01Part of that, obviously, I would say, was two weeks ago, Raimondo Stevenson was out.
07:05This past week, he was healthy and back, but he hadn't practiced since leaving that
07:09Texans game with the injury.
07:10So he's now fresher, has been out there practicing.
07:14He missed the other day for personal reasons as well, but it looks like they're going to
07:18get him back.
07:19So how do you see this run game going up against this Jets defense and how do they establish
07:24the run against New York on Sunday?
07:26Yeah.
07:27So when I spoke to Scott Peters about why the run game has struggled the past couple
07:30of weeks, he mentioned the personnel.
07:32And Michael Jordan really was the guy that struggled the most, I think, last week, especially
07:36like a lot of the backside pursuit stuff was an issue.
07:39But he's still learning to play with Ben Brown.
07:41He had DeMontre Jacobs next to him for, I think it was only the second time, if they
07:45play together at all.
07:46Honestly, it's, jeez, there's so many offensive linemen, it's really hard to remember who
07:50played where on what week.
07:52But yeah, those are really the big issues.
07:53So hopefully another week, more coaching up, they improve that way.
07:57Because I think there are going to be opportunities against the Jets run defense.
08:01And the big reason why, I should start with their rush defense right here, put it up on
08:05the screen.
08:06Now, the Jets have not really defended the run very well since these teams last met since
08:12week four.
08:13Obviously, they played in week three.
08:14They've been one of the most run on teams, actually, both the Patriots and the Jets are
08:19top three in terms of rushes faced.
08:21And you see a positive EPA rate.
08:23Basically all that means is how many times did you run the ball or somebody run against
08:26you and you allowed positive yardage.
08:28So like first down, you get at least four yards.
08:31On second down, you get half of that yardage and on third down or fourth down, it would
08:35be a conversion.
08:36So on 40% of runs, they're allowing offenses to have positive gains.
08:42That's bottom 10 in the league.
08:43And then missed tackles have been the biggest issue for this Jets run defense.
08:47That's why if Andre Stevenson can go, if Antonio Gibson's feeling better, his role was reduced
08:52last week.
08:53It looked like he had an injury, but the team didn't announce anything about his status.
08:56So it was kind of weird like, all right, what exactly is happening here?
08:59But those two guys can play.
09:00They're two of the best tackle breakers in the NFL, specifically remandering Stevenson.
09:04Antonio Gibson statistically has also been very efficient at making people miss.
09:08So that could be a big area that they will look to exploit.
09:11And then when it comes to tackles for loss or no gain, that's where the Jets have still
09:15been competitive.
09:16And with their style, they're an attacking front, right?
09:18They're going to blitz.
09:19They're going to slant.
09:20They want a lot of post-snap movement to create confusion and mess up your blocking schemes.
09:25That has also led to some explosive plays for them, as you can see, or some negative
09:28plays that go in their favor.
09:32But also, again, you're missing tackles at times.
09:34You're letting guys run on you pretty effectively.
09:36So it's been pretty boom or bust for New York.
09:39But then like you mentioned, when you look at the Patriots, it hasn't really been great
09:42for them either.
09:43Since week six, they haven't been able to run the ball very much again because they're
09:47kind of getting blown out.
09:48They're not really having a lot of opportunities to run the ball and be in command of the game.
09:53But the biggest thing that kind of stands out to me is the yard before contact.
09:57We've talked about this.
09:58They're the only team in the NFL over the past two weeks that is allowing negative yards
10:02before contact.
10:03They're getting hit in the backfield, and then they're trying to do their best after
10:07that.
10:08I think the Patriots yards after contact and missed tackles force metrics are still solid.
10:12But when you're getting hit still, maybe you're making one guy miss, but that gives the defense
10:16an opportunity to swarm and collapse on the running backs.
10:19And then as you can see, they're not really converting very often.
10:22And obviously, because they're not blocking very well up front or creating yards for their
10:26backs, they're getting stuffed at one of the highest rates in the NFL.
10:30So I'm going to dive into the tape a little bit here and dive into exactly what teams
10:36have done successfully against the Jets that's worked, specifically the Bills in one of their
10:40runs and how it can kind of create a blueprint, although the Patriots already know it's really
10:44just technique, but where we can see the Patriots most likely try to improve.
10:49So here we've got an outside zone week from the Buffalo Bills.
10:53A week just means they're going to the open side of the formation or the side without
10:56a tight end.
10:57So these two guys are just going to double the backside end, but really, they're going
11:01to try to either bounce this or hit it somewhere in the middle right here.
11:04And the Jets are in a four down over front over front basically just means you're putting
11:09your defensive tackle or your three technique, the guy on the outside shoulder of the guard
11:13or inside shade of the tackle.
11:15You're putting him where the strength of the run is here again, you got two tight ends.
11:19That's the strength three techniques right here.
11:21They're trying to run towards this one technique.
11:24That's a pretty common strategy for these outside zone schemes.
11:26You like to try to attack that one technique because it creates better angles for the blockers.
11:31Now what I really want you to focus on is the backside with outside zone.
11:35The backside is the key because it's predicated on creating cutback lanes.
11:39It's great if you can get the run outside, you can, you know, not really have to change
11:43the point of attack too drastically, but against a team like the Jets, if they over pursue,
11:47you want to make sure you can exploit those off of solid backside blocks.
11:52So here we're going to see exactly that in slow motion.
11:55So running back is going to get the handoff.
11:57As you can see, really nice combo right here.
11:59You get some movement on the first line of the defense.
12:02Then you're also going to see Osiris Torrance climb like this is what you want to see, right?
12:07Created movement on the line of scrimmage and you did it well enough that you were able
12:10to pass off, get to the second level and block that linebacker.
12:14As you're going to see, running back takes advantage, breaks one tackle.
12:18That's an explosive strong run for the Buffalo Bills.
12:22Now the Patriots, this is the same thing, right?
12:24It's going to be outside zone to the open side without the tight end.
12:27Once again, you're going to get a four down front over front specifically.
12:31There's that three technique from actually, I'm sorry.
12:34Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
12:35Yeah.
12:36From the, oh my God.
12:37I just lost my train of thought.
12:38Anyway, keep going.
12:39Yeah.
12:40Jaguars.
12:41Yes.
12:43I don't know what you think about the organization anyway, so what you're going to see here,
12:48you're okay.
12:49Look how quickly also Michael Jordan gets off this block, so he doesn't really, he doesn't
12:53really do anything.
12:54Yeah.
12:55There's not a ton there for Demontre Jacobs and to be fair, like Michael Jordan's thing
12:58isn't really power.
12:59He's more like a freak athlete, so he's not going to get you a ton of movement, but even
13:03worse here, not only do they not get good push up front, but then at the second level,
13:08the running, the linebacker gets past him, crosses his face, Ramondre's looking to, okay,
13:13maybe I'll hit this crease or maybe if this block was made, he could have a cutback lane.
13:17That's not going to materialize because the linebacker is going to reach him in the backfield
13:21tackle for loss.
13:22And there's where that negative yards per contact comes from or negative yards per rush.
13:26Yeah.
13:27A lot of it is their inability to get off those double teams and get to those linebackers,
13:31especially fast flowing linebackers.
13:33When you're talking about Quincy Williams, he's one of the most explosive linebackers
13:36in the NFL, all pro linebacker last year, so you're really going to have to make sure
13:40you are getting that initial push.
13:43I know David Andrews said, I think it was last season when it comes to those combos,
13:46the second level is important, but you at least need to get push up front so that there's
13:50at least somewhere for the running back to go.
13:52So both of those things are absolutely going to be key for the Patriots establishing the
13:55run and finally having a balanced offense, which Gerard Mayo has harped on throughout
13:59this week.
14:00I think both of the press conferences that we've been in, he's mentioned wanting to
14:03be balanced on offense.
14:04I mean, they were so run heavy to start.
14:06They really leaned on that with Jacoby and they wanted him to throw when he could and
14:10things like that, but they really leaned on it early and now they've not that they've
14:13went away from it, but it's just been so inefficient.
14:16I think it's for a multitude of reasons.
14:17I mentioned Armando earlier, but also, you know, it's the changes up front and having
14:21to sort of establish a, um, you know, I keep saying, but five guys looking through the
14:26same lens, uh, and establishing your run lanes that way, it's not going to happen when you're
14:30constantly rotating guys through.
14:31So hopefully this week, Mondra gets healthy, uh, but Darian Lowe comes back and they sort
14:36of have a more, uh, a better, more cohesive, if you will, front offensive line in front
14:41of them to get it going there.
14:43So Gerard Mayo calls this team a soft football team because they couldn't establish the run,
14:48but the other thing they couldn't do is stop the run.
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16:11Patriots.
16:12Like I said, they got to establish that run.
16:13They got to help Drake Mayo in that regard, give him a little bit of a run game so he
16:17can open up the passing game.
16:18But what they also have to do on the other side of the ball is stop the run.
16:21When they played the jets in week three, they let up 133 yards on 33 carries, uh, four yards
16:27per carry.
16:28So not terrible, but they've really let up over the last couple of weeks, 170 plus in
16:34their last three games.
16:35Brees Hall, Braylon Allen, two guys, a two headed monster in that Jets backfield.
16:39That's going to be tough to contain those guys, but the task is ahead of them.
16:43They, uh, they know what they have to do.
16:45Drod Mayo said it all week.
16:46They have to stop the run.
16:47They have to, uh, stay on their, um, P's and Q's if you will.
16:51And guys understand where they are, uh, and where this team is at, but how do they specifically
16:55stop the run against this jets team?
16:57Yeah.
16:58You mentioned it, man.
16:59They've allowed 170 or more rushing yards in each of their past three games.
17:03They've actually allowed a hundred and they've allowed 130 or more, I think in every game
17:07since they last played the jets, that's completely unacceptable.
17:10Jerry Montgomery said, you never want to get a hundred run, have a team run for a hundred
17:13yards on you, much less 130, 170, where you're almost at 200 a pop.
17:18And as you can see, since the Patriots and the Jets last played, no defense has allowed
17:24more runs of at least 10 yards again, unacceptable.
17:27Now, Drod Mayo did tell us last week was really more of an anomaly considering where the run
17:33defense has struggled.
17:34Like I said, here, it's really been explosive runs where he said, it's really the chunk
17:38plays.
17:39It's like three or four times a game.
17:40People are ripping off these like 20, sometimes 50, as we know from the Texans yard runs that
17:45really put the defense in difficult positions.
17:47Uh, but last week it really was just more getting punched in the stomach amount by a
17:51thousand cuts.
17:52Exactly.
17:53Like literally the, um, beast mode where he talks about, you just hit him over and over.
17:58Oh yeah.
17:59Over and over and over.
18:00It's like, that's exactly what happened.
18:01Yeah.
18:02So I do think that that was pretty critical and we're getting back to the Shanahan tree,
18:05right?
18:06Where a lot of the teams that they were playing earlier were more outside zone teams, primarily
18:10from under center.
18:11I still think we're going to see a lot of that, but we've also talked like ad nauseum
18:15about how you stop the outside zone.
18:17We've gone into all the times they struggled at what needs to be better.
18:20They replaced Rayquan McMillan with Christian Ellis.
18:22That was one step in that, but also you need better from Devon God job.
18:26That was last week was the worst game.
18:27I think I've maybe seen him play as a Patriot, although he was elite, like he led the NFL
18:33in run stops, entering the game, need a better performance from him, especially if Daniel
18:37equality is out.
18:38But like I mentioned, most of what we've seen from the jets, what we're going to see is
18:42outside zone from under center.
18:43That's the base of their offense.
18:44We're also going to see some duo.
18:46Those are really their two main concepts, but one thing that the Jaguars did really
18:51successfully I think is not only do I think actually that this is something we could see
18:54from the jets.
18:55It's something we saw a variation of from the jets.
18:57The last time these teams faced off and that is these RPO inside zones with a bubble tag.
19:03We actually got to see how the Patriots progressively tried to defend it better as the game went
19:07on against Jaguars really just came down to execution surprise, surprise it's run defense,
19:12but I'm going to give you an example of what it looked like against the jets in that week.
19:15Then how the Patriots ended up adjusting last week in London.
19:20So like I said, we're going to get a three, three over front from the Patriots.
19:24So that means you got the three down lineman Dietrich wise, Devon, gotcha, Daniel, a quality
19:28three linebackers.
19:29You got a, I believe this is a, I can't remember which one to be honest.
19:35We got the end zone angle, so we'll figure it out.
19:37And then you got Jelani to buy and Ray Cromwell at the second level.
19:40Also Kyle Duggar at the second level here.
19:43So actually I have the names, I forgot about that, but this is really the important part.
19:46So these are going to be some of the key figures.
19:48As you can see, you have the two off all linebackers, then you're going to have Kyle down in the
19:53box, single high look, and then Marcus Jones in the slot.
19:57Now this is how this is going to look for the jets.
19:59You're going to have a little motion from the running back.
20:02That's going to be the bubble to this side, and then you're going to get the inside zone
20:05RPO tag.
20:06And I want you to focus in on Jelani to buy, right?
20:09Because this is going to put him in conflict and end up taking him out of the run fit.
20:13So we're going to see the motion from the running back, get out into the flat.
20:16I should have done this faster and we get the handoff and you see Jelani to buy.
20:21He's looking at the mesh point, but he still has to respect the fact that this could end
20:25up being a throw outside because it's single high.
20:28If these guys get blocked up, nobody's there to take the running back.
20:32So he has to respect it.
20:33What that does take some out of the box.
20:36And then as you can see, you only have five guys in there, get a hat on a hat for the
20:39jets.
20:40But the reason they stop it is because they play well up front.
20:44Now on this play from the end zone angle, take a look at the bond, gotcha and Daniel
20:47Joshua.
20:48There you go.
20:49It was Joshua.
20:50Yeah.
20:51I don't know.
20:52It's confusing.
20:53They were going to see a double up here on the inside zone on bond.
20:56Gotcha.
20:57And then you're going to get Daniel equality with the one on one matchup.
20:59Rayquan McMillan is also involved in the play, but really he doesn't even matter because
21:03they're able to win at the first level.
21:06So again, we're going to see the motion.
21:08Then we get the double on God shot.
21:10Notice how he really doesn't move right now when Conor McGovern, I think it is or whenever
21:15the center tries to climb up to Rayquan, not really gone anywhere.
21:19So by the time the running back tries to hit the hole, you now have two guys who really
21:23didn't give up much ground, who are in good position to stack and shed their blockers.
21:28That's exactly what you're going to see.
21:29Gotcha.
21:30Initiates contact play by there to really good play from gotcha.
21:33That's what you expect from him now, but familiar, very similar look against the Jaguars.
21:38Once again, you have the four down front with Jelani to buy and Christian Ellis will still
21:42the three, three, but it's four down linemen buying Christian Ellis at the second level,
21:47Marcus Jones in the slot.
21:48But this time they're playing a split safety coverage with Kyle Duggar.
21:52He's going to be dropping back into coverage in a deep half and it's going to be the same
21:57thing that we're going to see.
21:58So first you're going to see a motion from everything room and what this is going to
22:01turn into is a bubble to him again, walks on the outside with the running back this
22:05time.
22:06I believe this is tanks.
22:07Bigsby running on inside zone up the gut and then you're going to hold it now.
22:11You're re defender.
22:12Yeah.
22:13Okay.
22:14Exactly.
22:15And look what this does to him.
22:16Once again, takes them out of the run.
22:17They can't really do anything.
22:18And then Jelani to buy in the front are able to do their jobs and it just turns into a
22:23big game.
22:24So this time focusing on Godshaw and Jelani to buy, this is going to be a less impressive
22:29example of Godshaw getting off his doubles because he is going to get moved.
22:33That movement not only gives the back room to operate, it also contributes to Jelani
22:37to buy not getting into play, but also just, this is really good job from the running back
22:41pretending to go inside and then bouncing.
22:43So let's just run the play.
22:46Now you see tank Bigsby is going to threaten to hit this hole.
22:48That's going to get Jelani to buy to kind of go inside like that.
22:52And that completely screws him at this point.
22:54Now he has to try to recover, make an arm tackle.
22:57That ain't going to fly my friend.
22:59Then he gets to the second level, big game for the Jags.
23:02Now this is how the Patriots adjusted.
23:03They tried a couple of different things, right?
23:05The first time the Jets actually, or the Jags actually ran this, they were in a five man
23:08front with one linebacker.
23:10Can't have that on RPOs.
23:11It just puts you in way too difficult to spot because if they get through that first crease,
23:15there's really no other linebackers to try to take them down.
23:17So this time we have the Patriots in a three, three tight front.
23:21The difference between a tight front and the fronts that we were seeing before one, you
23:25have the five down linemen.
23:26So you're more secure upfront, but what you have instead of an outside linebacker, you're
23:30actually going to have Kyle Duggar.
23:33And then to get him into the box, so you can better defend the RPO.
23:37We've seen Kyle Duggar blow up so many of these bubble screens, gives you more physicality
23:41up front in the slot, while Marcus Jones is actually going to play safety in a split
23:46field coverage.
23:47You're going to have Marte Mapa with the bottom dropping out, but now you still have your
23:51five down front, but you also have two linebackers at the second level.
23:54So it's basically like a base defense, except Kyle Duggar acting as an outside linebacker
23:59essentially.
24:01So this time watch Christian Ellis.
24:03He doesn't execute this very well because he's actually going to drop into coverage,
24:06which makes them a tick late, but it's helped by the fact that the front does their job
24:11And this is something where Ellis is a special teamer.
24:13You know, he doesn't have a ton of experience at the NFL playing linebacker.
24:16So you expect there's going to be a learning curve.
24:19Hopefully he could take a step this week.
24:21Let's run the play.
24:22You can see Mopu dropping into the deep half.
24:24Now you get the handoff, get some push on Godshaw, but Daniel Equality does a really
24:28good job on his.
24:29And again, as you see, Christian Ellis does got to drop into his coverage, which like,
24:34okay, you understand, but you'd like to see him kind of stagger and then get downhill.
24:39And now we're going to see it from the end zone angle.
24:42Now again, Godshaw equality, the staples up front, they do get push on Devon Godshaw right
24:48here a little bit.
24:49He gives up some ground, but he got Jelani to buy in a good position to be able to get
24:53off of his blocker, gets under the block, makes the tackle.
24:59So I don't think that we're going to see a ton of this from the jets because it isn't
25:02the base of what they like to do on offense.
25:05But the fact that the Jaguars had success on it multiple times, they had some slightly
25:10different looks, but we're talking about, this was the same concept.
25:12I think they ran like six different times.
25:14So the jets say, Hey, maybe you want to switch it up, show them something that we didn't
25:17show them the first time around.
25:18Maybe they didn't prepare for, see if they know how to adjust and actually went up front
25:22so that these RPOs don't work as well.
25:24We'll see.
25:25But I wanted to focus on that because I think we'll see more of it this time around from
25:28the jets than we did last time.
25:30Two quick notes before we move on to the next thing, just as, as I sort of write things
25:34down and see it as you break it down.
25:36Number one is it might be tough without a quality in the middle because he's obviously
25:39a major factor there in that run defense.
25:41But you know, we, we, we mentioned, and we're getting on this coaching staff right now as
25:46we should.
25:47Right.
25:48I mean, it's, it's been a little bit of a little bit of a mess.
25:49It comes down to coaching and they should ultimately be, you know, the buck stops with
25:53them and they take responsibility, but you see they had the answers against the jets
25:57the first time for the most part there, it was all about execution and player execution.
26:01You see in that, uh, in the Jaguars game, guys can't get off their blocks, guys aren't
26:05in the right spot.
26:06And that's why tank Bigsby goes for, you know, five, six, seven, eight yards, 10 yards or
26:10whatever on the play we showed.
26:11And it's that death by by a thousand cuts.
26:13So it seems like they do.
26:15And then they also made the adjustment and it works out in their favor.
26:17So it seems like they do have the answers and ultimately it's going to come down to
26:22execution.
26:23Now we'll see what happens against this jets team on Sunday, but that's sort of my read
26:27on it is that they do have the players, they do have the guys that can do it.
26:30And they ultimately just have to actually get it done.
26:32So we'll see if, if Gerard Mayo is in those guys' ears, uh, I know you asked him that
26:36question the other day and he continues to try and, uh, sounds like he wants to be the
26:40CEO coach and, and flipping, you know, flipping the channels instead of getting in the mud
26:44with those guys.
26:45We'll see if things change, but at the end of the day, uh, it looks like they may have
26:48the answers and it's coming down to the players on the field.
26:51Something that the coaches, uh, or Mayo shouldn't necessarily say he has to wear it, but, um,
26:56my read on it.
26:57That's what it's going to come down to.
26:58We're going to get into the fun part here, Taylor, because we're going to talk about
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28:44Taylor, what time is it game time?
28:46It is game time.
28:47It's also time to talk about Drake may what everybody wants to talk about the quarterback
28:52of the Patriots.
28:54It's what we care about.
28:55He's had two great games, two solid games.
28:57Great might be strong.
28:58Obviously he had the improvement.
28:59It's no true.
29:00Impressive.
29:01That's the right way to say it.
29:02I listening to TC McCartney today, it sounds like the, you know, those guys in the room
29:07are impressed with just the way he's been able to take everything and drink through
29:10a fire hose and really play some pretty solid football.
29:14He was asked today, like how you, um, how you balance, you know, a guy who wants to
29:19come in and win football games.
29:21We've talked about a Taylor, how he's really hard on himself and he wants, one of the first
29:24things he said is, man, this football team needs a win, man, this football team needs
29:28a win.
29:29And McCartney was asked, how do you balance, Hey, you, you need a win and you're going
29:34to come off the field pissed off if you don't get a win, but quarterback Drake plays really
29:38good.
29:39How do you compartmentalize that and make sure he doesn't get, you know, two in his
29:42head and, and he gave a good answer and just how, you know, you can look at it both ways.
29:47You can nitpick the types of things that he does on the field and this and that, but at
29:51the end of the day, if you play well, um, you gotta do your job and that's all you can
29:54do.
29:55So let's talk about Drake may, uh, and what he can do in this offense this week against
30:00the jets.
30:01And your main point Taylor is for him to go deep, right?
30:04Attack the deep part of the field, something he did several times on Sunday against the
30:08Jaguars and had a little bit of success on it.
30:10So take us through it.
30:11How did the Patriots attack the deep part of this jets defense on Sunday?
30:14Yes, sir.
30:16So the jets have not been good at defending deep pass.
30:19They've actually been one of the worst teams in the NFL.
30:21They've allowed the second most deep completions since these teams last met.
30:25They've allowed one of the highest completion percentages, the most passing yards.
30:29They haven't given up a touchdown.
30:31Gotta tip your hat there.
30:32It's like the run defense.
30:33It's like, it's mostly bad, but there's like a sliver of it there for the jets fans out
30:36there.
30:37And the success rate has been under 60%.
30:40That is also bottom 10 in the NFL.
30:42Now when the Patriots and the jets last met Patriots went over three on deep passes.
30:46One of those was a hail Mary.
30:47So you can kind of scrub that.
30:49It was right before halftime.
30:50They did have one successful play.
30:52It was a defensive pass interference that Jacoby drew when throwing to Taekwon Thornton.
30:56That was the only success they had going deep, but things have changed because Drake may
31:01has actually been one of the best deep passers since he became a starter.
31:05Now, obviously very small sample size.
31:07My boss, Bill Smith and next gen stats would eviscerate me if he saw that I used a passer
31:12rating stat for a guy who's thrown less than 10 of these types of passes.
31:16He always used to get on me for that, but you know what?
31:19You need a sample size, Taylor.
31:20Come on.
31:21They don't teach your sample sizes over there at NGS.
31:23Nah, they do.
31:24I just didn't listen.
31:25Well, I don't anymore.
31:26I did then because my job depended on it, but Drake may, once again, he has these top
31:31five and deep completions.
31:32But then when you actually look at the efficiency, again, very small sample size, but he has
31:36the highest adjusted completion percentage that, that, uh, that includes drops.
31:41I believe that's really the biggest thing about it.
31:44Touchdown interception ratio, two touchdowns, no picks.
31:46That's the best in the past two weeks.
31:49And he has the highest pass rating, 149.3 and also big time throws.
31:52Not every deep pass is a big time throw.
31:55Cause if you're open or there's like a lot of space, it's not really a big time, bro.
31:58You're just, you know, taking what the defense gives you.
32:01Big time throws are more.
32:02If you're throwing into tight windows downfield, Drake may has had a tie for the third most
32:07in the NFL and he still hasn't had a turnover where the play, it's also the only one of
32:12only a few quarterbacks who has had this deep success and has never thrown deep with play
32:17action.
32:18He's a 0% play action rate on his deep attempt.
32:20So that's another reason we're going to talk about, like we talked about, we need to establish
32:24the run, right?
32:25That's so important.
32:26He'd like to give Drake may opportunities to go deep and more advantageous situations
32:30where you are going off play action and maybe the protection is better versus necessarily
32:34having to do it on straight drop backs.
32:36Although if you're getting the ball out and like throwing a go route, you're not holding
32:39it for very long.
32:40It's, it's like a tick longer than a quick step drop back.
32:44Uh, but yeah, you'd like to at least open up the play action game to give him some easier
32:48opportunities.
32:49We're going to talk about what exactly the Patriots can do to create those opportunities.
32:52So here we have a shot play from the, uh, Minnesota Vikings.
32:57And this one is actually going to be off of a pick play, which the Patriots haven't run
33:01a ton of.
33:02And honestly, I haven't been super impressed with Alex Van Pelt's man beaters.
33:05Unlike Josh McDaniels, who, if you played man against Josh, he'd pick you apart.
33:09Like literally he would just create collision after collision after collision to get guys
33:13open easily.
33:15Alex Van Pelt really moralizing this guy's to win in a phone booth, but that's why you
33:18have guys like pop.
33:19That's why you have guys like Keishon Boudet who can win bootay.
33:21Oh my God.
33:22I'm hearing it so much.
33:23I'm starting to say his name is booty.
33:25I know.
33:26Yes.
33:28So when you got guys like that, it gives you a little easier answers over the middle and
33:31obviously outside.
33:33So the guys we're going to focus on here are sauce Gardner and safety.
33:36Tony Adams sauce Gardner has gotten picked to death this season.
33:41He's having a really down year.
33:42And a lot of that is because on these design rub routes, I don't know what they're coaching,
33:46but for some reason they keep having miscommunications and guys end up on the ground.
33:50This was the most egregious example I saw where actually two different guys are going
33:54to get open.
33:55So first we're going to have emotion and that's going to start to create some confusion once
33:58you get this late bunch.
33:59Cause look at sauce.
34:00You see how he's trying to communicate before the snap and tell Isaiah Oliver, all right,
34:04you've got this guy trying to make sure everybody's in the right place here.
34:07You're going to get Justin Jefferson as the number three in the bunch.
34:11This specific type of shot where it's the number three in these bunches going vertical
34:15outside.
34:16These have been killing the jets.
34:17I don't, I haven't seen any tape of them being able to defend it.
34:20So I'm hoping that Alex van Pelt steals this one and creates an easy deep shot opportunity.
34:25You're going to get, I'm kind of fading out then going vertical.
34:28I positive what exactly this is supposed to be now with him saying, all right, this is
34:33your man.
34:34There's two possibilities in my head.
34:36The first is that this is a blocked coverage and then they basically banjo this banjo means
34:41like exactly what this says.
34:43The guy with the outside leverage takes the first outside route and then the guy with
34:47inside leverage takes the first inside route.
34:48It's designed to stop you from getting picked, but what it also could have potentially been
34:53is just straight up man coverage.
34:55But because this is a tight end, I don't think that's the case because then you'd be putting
34:59sauce on a tight end and then a safety on a receiver or just Jefferson that wouldn't
35:03make any sense.
35:04I just wanted to at least acknowledge.
35:07I'm not a hundred percent sure.
35:08And you're going to see why it was straight, man.
35:09You would think that the safety and sauce would just flip here.
35:11Exactly.
35:12That's what you would think.
35:13So that's why I think it is more of a match time to coverage where they're just really
35:18focusing on alignment rather than the actual matchups.
35:20But again, it's hard to tell exactly what happened because of how badly they end up
35:25colliding with each other.
35:26So I'm just going to run this play finally.
35:27Like you see the man match outside, you're going to see sauce inside, right?
35:33to get outside.
35:34But both guys end up trying to get Justin Jefferson.
35:37And because of that, no one gets Justin Jefferson or the tight end.
35:41These guys are going to call my car pile up.
35:45We got right here.
35:46Isaiah.
35:47I'll look at that too.
35:48He could.
35:49He has he has a shot to month to there.
35:51Exactly.
35:52You got him and then you got both of these guys wide open.
35:56I mean, it's a tight end and you still have a safety.
35:58I don't know if it would have been a touchdown, but two huge opportunities and very easily.
36:03This is what a big time throw would not be.
36:04It's deep.
36:05Yes.
36:06But it's not really that impressive.
36:07And now look at Adams, because this is why I think that sauce is the one who messed up
36:10with how he responds.
36:11He looks like, dude, what the hell did you just do?
36:14Why did you run into me?
36:15All right.
36:16So now we're going to see Drake May going deep last week.
36:20Kind of similar concept where he begins looking like he's going to go outside and then goes
36:24vertical.
36:25He doesn't do a great job selling it, honestly, but I feel like maybe it's because he just
36:29wanted to get up field as quickly as possible.
36:31But really what this is supposed to look like is an all outs concept, right?
36:35So he's running it out, he's running it out, and then Jalen Polk is going to start on an
36:39out.
36:40He's a little bit more defined.
36:41I also think the press coverage is why you don't really see Booty really try to sell
36:45the out because Jalen Polk is off.
36:46So he's really just trying to like get this guy to bite and then go vertical.
36:50But you're going to get the fade out and then you're going to get him going up field against
36:53what looks at first like a split field coverage.
36:55It looks like you really wouldn't want to throw outside.
36:59But what we're going to see from the Jaguars post snap is they actually rotate to single
37:03high middle field close coverage, and that's where Keishon Booty's route is more ideal.
37:08Drake does an excellent job reading the coverage.
37:12Then despite the fact, we've broken this down already, but despite the fact that he's got
37:15a pass rusher bearing down on him and his receiver is only even, what do we say, Mike?
37:20He's leaving, baby.
37:21See ya.
37:22He's leaving because he's even.
37:23And Drake May with a really good job here, giving his receiver a nice fall despite the
37:27fact that he thought he may have thought he was going to get hit.
37:30And also great extending catch from Keishon Booty.
37:34Gets his feet down, secures the ball.
37:36Big play for the Patriots.
37:37So I'm hoping we see a lot of those pick plays again.
37:41The bunches with the number three running the vertical route, we saw that tight formation
37:45from the Patriots.
37:46They use a lot of bunches in obvious pass situations.
37:49So maybe we will see that specifically.
37:51Some other opportunities I noticed were crossers off play action.
37:54We've seen those from the Patriots.
37:56Just need Drake May to put that ball in this receiver's upfield shoulder so they can maximize
38:00yards after contact.
38:01And then also deep shots against Quincy Williams from running backs.
38:05We haven't seen a whole lot of Antonio Gibson deep or Ramondre Stevenson, but in practice
38:09we see they practice it like the running backs do work on catching deep balls.
38:13So hopefully we finally see those guys get involved in the downfield passing game.
38:17Taylor, I'm excited for them to continue to, or I guess I'm excited to see Drake May keep
38:22growing in this offense and not this offense specifically, but as a player.
38:26He is what the Patriots have right now.
38:29He is the light at the end of the tunnel, the exciting player, arguably their best football
38:35player right now overall, because everyone else is just not.
38:39Gonzo!
38:40Gonzo!
38:41Okay, fine.
38:42You got me there.
38:43It's probably good.
38:44But Drake May, you know, obviously his stature on the team.
38:47So I'm excited to see what they continue to do.
38:50So let's go through.
38:51Sorry, I just want to hit some of these comments, especially this one from D, even though we
38:56were talking about the defense, when D put this up, but the linebackers have to play,
38:59have to have better play recognition.
39:01Taylor, do you agree with D here?
39:03And also thank you so much for the tip.
39:04We appreciate it.
39:05Yeah.
39:06So with Jelani, it doesn't feel, sometimes he does seem like he's a tick slow.
39:11I think, I don't know how much of that is really just trying to maybe hide behind his
39:14defensive line.
39:15Like one of the plays we showed, he literally was hiding behind Devon Gottschalk trying
39:19not to get blocked.
39:20But Christian Ellis, that definitely was an issue for him that I saw last week.
39:24Whatever that is inexperience, we saw them kind of mix Rayquan McMillan in as well.
39:27Oh, but yeah, absolutely.
39:29I would agree that the recognition could be better.
39:31Let's hit a couple more things in the chat before we get out of here.
39:33First and foremost, there is a someone called Delusional Jets fan in the chat right now.
39:37He is doing a lot.
39:38Sounds like a Jets fan, but Taylor, he complimented you and said, you're cool.
39:43And the rest of us are boring and the Patriots think, but Hey, we appreciate the comments.
39:48We appreciate the kind words to Taylor.
39:49Anyway, here's one.
39:50No name calling, please.
39:51Give him a timeout because he was doing a little too much.
39:55Okay.
39:56Jayvon Baker has become a topic of discussion here with the illness over in London, but
40:02the wide receiver room in a little bit of disarray with the KJ Osborne talking about
40:07a trade, Kendrick Ford saying guys need to be better all across the board.
40:10Baker gets sick in London, doesn't practice, doesn't play.
40:14But it sounds like to me with the moving parts around the wide receiver room, Jalen Polk
40:20probably out with a concussion that there's a chance Taekwon Thornton's active this week
40:25that Gerard Mayo mentioned, and perhaps we see Jayvon Baker at some point down the line
40:29as well.
40:30What role should or would Jayvon Baker have in this offense when he finally gets his number
40:34called?
40:35I think it could be very simple.
40:36I think you just put him at X, have him run vertical routes, a slant and a dig every once
40:40in a while.
40:41But he was one of the best vertical threats in college last year.
40:44It wasn't because he was a great speedster.
40:46It's because he does a good job with his releases.
40:47He's got strong hands and he understands how to win when guys are tight to him.
40:51Like he knows how to fight and ward off coverage.
40:54And also just his running style is kind of unconventional.
40:56I don't want to say Stevie Johnson because he was like the standard of guys work.
41:01Even the elite corners were like, I don't really know how to read this guy.
41:03I don't know how to read this route because the pacing, the style, the way that he ran
41:08those routes was so different.
41:09But yeah, I think it's pretty simple.
41:11Just put Jayvon Baker as that ISO receiver where we saw him with Drake May in the preseason.
41:15And if he's playing well, let him eat.
41:17I'm with you.
41:18All right.
41:19I think we have only a few questions here, but let's get to Tyquan Thornton because I
41:22mentioned him as well.
41:23Let's talk about what he could potentially bring to this offense.
41:26Sounds like he could be getting snaps.
41:27Do you think it's more so, and we talk about this in our standup that's going to be coming
41:30out on Patriots press press here a little bit as well.
41:33Just Thornton stands in the wide receiver room.
41:35If he would be a potential trade candidate, what they could get for him.
41:38So make sure to check that out when it comes out as well.
41:40But you think he's getting more snaps or is going to start getting more snaps with the
41:46corner?
41:47Or do you think they actually think he can do something to add an element to this offense?
41:51It's a tough question, honestly, because well, the coaches said he had a great week of practice.
41:55So that's part of it.
41:56But I feel like if Jalen Polk were actually no, because Jalen Polk has also struggled
42:00in Mayo acknowledged that he could see a reduced role when he comes back from the concussion.
42:04But I also would, I think it's smart to see what Thornton can do with Drake.
42:07He's been a healthy scratch all the past few times that Drake has started, but Drake is
42:11the only quarterback that Taekwon Thornton has had in the NFL or maybe in college, because
42:15I remember when I watched this last year in college, that quarterback kind of sucked.
42:19There was so many.
42:20That's why I thought he was going to be good.
42:22The number of times he had to come back to the ball and fight through contact, despite
42:25basically being open for a touchdown was insane.
42:28Yeah, we've seen Drake made such a good job letting his receivers run under these passes.
42:33And with Thornton speed, like we're talking potential touchdowns.
42:36So I definitely think there's some element of wanting to see what he can do before the
42:40trade deadline.
42:42But at the same time, I think a poke's play and injury have a significant portion to do
42:46with that.
42:47I think of his stance sort of in the offense and Tyler Hughes said it today.
42:50He's a guy who can run off coverage and take the top off the defense.
42:54And when you think of that, and Drake may mentioned, you know, those for the love of
42:57the game routes, right?
42:58A guy who just runs and doesn't expect the football and just opens up everything else
43:02underneath.
43:03But with Drake Mays play style and the fact that he will rip one 50 yards down the field,
43:09if Taekwon gets through and nobody's there, he might actually give him a chance where
43:13to go over set might not have Mack Jones really wasn't doing that with him in this offense.
43:17So it's, it's a far cry, right?
43:20And the, the several chapters of the Taekwon Thornton evolution we've seen where, Oh, well,
43:25maybe now this is going to unlock them right now.
43:27This often is a coordinator can do it now.
43:28He's buffed Taekwon and now he can come in and be, Oh, he's the starting X to start the
43:33season.
43:34Nothing has panned out.
43:35We'll see if the Drake may a version of Taekwon Thornton can bring out the best of them.
43:38I'm not expecting much, frankly, because we just haven't seen it, but who knows crazier
43:43things have happened.
43:44A couple more questions here.
43:45This one's from Courtney.
43:46Do you believe Drake is in a commanding position to get on these wide receivers during film
43:51doesn't seem like his personality now, Drake back on that.
43:54I think it is his personality.
43:56So I wonder though, Taylor, because he keeps saying that he wants to do more and say more
44:04and be the guy on the rah rah guy on the sidelines and get in these guys and not, not go in there
44:07and bitch them out.
44:08Right.
44:09But be, you know, constructive criticism and let's get ourselves on the same page.
44:13But he, he continues to say like, I want to do this and I want to do that and I'll grow
44:17into this.
44:18And I meant to ask him at this week and I didn't get the chance to, but I'm curious
44:22if this is some, this is a part of his personality and his leadership style.
44:27And is it something that you did in high school and you did in college and you just have to
44:31kind of grow into it in the NFL because it's a new chapter with new players and you're
44:34the young guy, or if this is something he's really trying to channel that he hasn't done
44:39before.
44:40And, you know, I, I didn't watch a ton.
44:43I mean, I watched him at North Carolina when the draft process was going on, but I didn't
44:46pay much attention to like his leadership style and understand if he gets, gets in guys'
44:51faces and gets on guys.
44:52So I'm curious if this is a, this is going to be a learned behavior from him or if it's
44:57something that he has in the past that he can kind of channel moving forward.
45:01I don't know if we'll ever be Tom where like Brady would legitimately rip you a new one
45:07if you did the wrong thing.
45:08And I also don't think that Brady was like that early on.
45:11Like there were other leaders.
45:12He didn't need to really be that guy unnecessarily.
45:15And also the receivers were veterans.
45:17So it was a very different situation to be fair.
45:18Right.
45:19But I think we know that Drake is very communicative with these guys.
45:22It doesn't need to be him being like, what the hell are you doing?
45:26Then Bill O'Brien asked to pull him off as come by, not to be that, but Joe Milton mentioned
45:30in an interview with Andrew Callahan, how, you know, if a receiver runs a hitch and he's
45:34supposed to run a go, he'll go, we got to go, we got to go.
45:37We got to go.
45:38We're like, he'll tell you.
45:39We know the key with Jayvon Baker and Jalen Polk was working with them after practice
45:42when they always talked about how like he was getting on the same page of what he saw
45:46versus what they saw.
45:47So they could be on that same page.
45:49I think there's definitely a degree of like maybe early on, I don't want to say his head
45:52is spinning, but he's still learning.
45:54And I think there's an element of like, you need to do your job and make sure that you're,
45:57you come correct.
45:58But I don't think he hesitates.
45:59If a guy runs the wrong router, it doesn't do enough.
46:01I highly doubt he's not going to say anything because he's competitive.
46:06There's a degree where of course, like you're young, you really don't want to push it necessarily.
46:09But yeah, no, I think that, I think that Drake, if guys aren't doing the right thing and they're
46:13in the same room, he'll say something about it.
46:15If you know the coaches don't do it themselves.
46:17Yeah.
46:18All right.
46:19Let's close it out with this one.
46:20Taylor tight end too.
46:22Do you think bell or Austin Hooper should get more play time is set into because obvious
46:25Hooper, Hooper, I knew you were going to say, you can go in on team bell.
46:29This is your chance.
46:30I like to heem bell.
46:31Like, I'm not trying to get on him, but I've not seen anything from him since the summer.
46:35I saw like some flashes in the preseason, but like those were in the fourth quarter,
46:39you know what I'm saying?
46:40And then I know Boris posted like a, a Jaheim bell, like, look like, you know what you're
46:45doing challenge or something like that.
46:46And honestly, I laughed because that's what it looks like half the time when he's on the
46:50field, he looks like, I think he's had maybe four snaps, three snaps this season.
46:54Not very many.
46:55I'm not kidding.
46:56I mean, every single time he looks like he doesn't know what his assignment is and he's
46:59just kind of trying to find work, right.
47:02I think he has a potentially bright future.
47:04He's a talented dude, but yeah, I feel like his head is spinning right now.
47:08And I think there's a reason that he hasn't been more involved.
47:10Everyone's like, Oh, give him a tight end screen, but like, I don't think they want
47:14to give guys targets.
47:15You haven't earned them.
47:16And I think that's exactly what's happening where it's like Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper
47:19are busting their butts.
47:20Hooper's been a really good run blocker, even better than I expected.
47:23And he's been solid as a pass catcher.
47:25That's not really why he's here.
47:27He's been good enough at it.
47:28And Jaheim Bell, I just, I just don't think he's there yet in his development.
47:31I'm with you.
47:32Hunter Henry has obviously been a beast the last couple of weeks with Drake May.
47:35I think they've, they've quickly developed a solid rapport.
47:38I know Alex Van Pelt mentioned him as sort of a security blanket for Drake May, which
47:41is something that you want in a guy who is a rookie quarterback, someone who, you know,
47:45shit hits the fan.
47:46You don't exactly know where to go with the football.
47:48You saw it down the, not that Drake didn't know where to go with the football in this
47:50play, but he was able to throw it up to Henry down the middle.
47:54He knows that that's my guy.
47:57I can put it here.
47:58He's going to go make that play.
47:59So he's been awesome in the tight end one role.
48:00And you mentioned Hooper too.
48:01Someone who is reliable, right?
48:03He's not going to, I see someone in the comments talking about the double tight end set.
48:06Like you're never really going to have that consistently with the guys on this roster
48:10because Austin Hooper just isn't that, you know, throw 12, 12 personnel out there all
48:15the time type of player.
48:16Well, we almost had that Chuck play against the Jets.
48:19Remember?
48:20I know we completely missed them.
48:21Yeah, no, that that's true.
48:23My point is, it's not going to be a Gronk in Hernandez style, 12 personnel with Austin
48:27Hooper in this guy.
48:28Right.
48:29And I think people wanted that with Jaheim bell, but he's just not getting there yet.
48:32And I think he's a guy we've talked about him for the last several months where super
48:36talented Florida state can play all over the field, H back style kind of guy, fullback
48:40this and that.
48:41But if you don't know what you're doing out there and you're running around like a chicken
48:44with your head cut off, which we've seen from him in the reps he's gotten, you can't play.
48:48And that's why we think Jayvon Baker hasn't been out there because he hasn't been able
48:51to get, you know, get it under wraps and Jalen Polk is someone who's struggling in
48:55that regard.
48:56And yeah, he's going to be out this week with the concussion, but you wonder if he was going
48:58to be the potential next healthy scratch because he hasn't been able to figure things out much
49:03yet.
49:04But long story short, I don't see Jaheim Bell taking over Austin Hooper at tight end to
49:08anytime soon.
49:09So Taylor, any other thoughts?
49:10Do you want to fit one more in?
49:11Go for it.
49:12I feel bad.
49:13I know Mitch has tried a couple of times.
49:14Oh yeah.
49:15Go.
49:16Sorry.
49:17Yeah.
49:18Mitch, we can fit one more in.
49:20How practical is it for Alex Van Pelt to install a brand new chapter of this playbook?
49:25Something they've been working on since training camp with the offensive line and the receivers
49:29that they have now.
49:30So I think like playbooks evolve over time.
49:33Once you have your core concepts, you try to keep building on it because if you do the
49:36same thing in the NFL, you're going to get stale.
49:38Now, you know, I don't know if he has like a Josh McDaniels playbook where it's literally
49:42like two decades worth of like building, like that's why they tried to get away from it
49:47after Brady in Mac's second season, because that was, I don't know why they did that because
49:52Matt clearly was pretty comfortable and smart enough.
49:55But the idea was let's simplify this, dumb it down and make sure we execute and know
49:59every single, you know, part of it.
50:01Because the playbook was an accumulation of one, it was Charlie Weiss's, it was Charlie
50:05Weiss's offense.
50:07Then Josh McDaniels and Tom Brady continued to build on it.
50:09You were seeing things that they had like added over years and years.
50:12I literally have like different versions from different seasons and you can see that they
50:16started adding things.
50:17Yeah.
50:18So yeah, I don't know exactly how that part works, to be honest, I've never been on a
50:21coaching staff.
50:22I only know what I've read and what I've heard, but absolutely the playbook should be progressing
50:26as the year goes on.
50:27And there are different things that you may work on with Drake May in the offense and
50:30things you're more comfortable with working with one guy versus the other.
50:33And so you're going to call different plays with different guys and different personnel
50:38groupings and the best example I can give, and it's not a great example, and I go back
50:42to myself and my, my full of the playing days and it's D3 college football.
50:46It's different.
50:47But our offense was a spread out system, five wide, 11 personnel, pretty much all the time.
50:54Not five wide, four wide, 11 personnel, the backs would go out there sometimes and empty,
50:57but it was, it was deep shots and it was RPO game and things like that.
51:02And then when I would have to come in and play, we didn't call as many deep shots and
51:07out roads because I don't have a strong arm.
51:09You know, it was all across the middle and middle zone RPOs and things like that.
51:14And you know, exactly, right.
51:17And so it was, you know, there are things where you have this broad playbook, but you
51:21hone in on certain concepts depending on who's out there.
51:24And so there are probably things that in install periods over the summer, they work on and
51:29understand we're going to be better off doing this with Drake versus Jacoby.
51:32And so they can sort of bring those things back.
51:34So to answer your question and Mitch, I apologize for not getting to your question earlier.
51:39I promise I wasn't purposely skipping you here, but yeah, it is practical.
51:42I don't know if it's going to be a complete brand new install, but there are certainly
51:46things that they've probably worked on in the past that they can sort of perfect and
51:51reinstall here with Drake May and his, his skillsets and systems like that.
51:56So also check out Nate Tice's account, cause just this, I feel like motion kind of gets
51:59into this as well.
52:00Cause I know everyone's like, Oh, they're so static.
52:02And Alex Van Pelta said he uses motion intentionally, Nate Tice put out a tweet showing that motion
52:07really hasn't been giving offenses as much of an advantage.
52:10Now, if you have motion at the snap, that's different, but like pre-snap motion where
52:14it's like, you know, a shift or something like that necessarily actually offenses have
52:18been more productive and had a higher success rate when they didn't use it.
52:21So just one of those little things I wanted to throw in there.
52:24I thought that was really interesting.
52:25I just got a flashback from the story I just told.
52:27We were playing in Western Connecticut and our starter got hurt and they had to throw
52:31me in.
52:32And we ran a, we were on the, uh, the left hash and we ran a, uh, an out route to the,
52:37to the field side.
52:38And I tried to hit it like 15 yards and it was just a complete duck safety under, under
52:43cuts at interception.
52:45And from that point on, I, it didn't go all the way.
52:47I know it, it didn't go all the way, but it was an interception cause I just tried to
52:50honk it out there and I didn't have the arm strength, but that was the play call that
52:53I had to get it out there.
52:54And from that moment on, as I kept having to play, it was all across the middle crossing
52:59route here.
53:00So everything in front of me, don't throw it out there.
53:02Only the only thing you're throwing, yeah, blinders.
53:04The only thing you're throwing on the outside is a quick fade or something like that.
53:07Cause you just can't get the football there.
53:08But I'm throwing one for my blind dates.
53:10It's kind of the opposite.
53:11So I was the backup.
53:12I was a third string punter.
53:13I had a leg, like I could legitimately punt it like from one end of the field, almost
53:16to the other.
53:17But my technique was ass, like there was no consistency.
53:21It was like kind of a roll of the die every time.
53:23The one time I ever got in a game, I kicked it a net of like three yards, complete shank
53:30literally.
53:31I heard people laugh and I was like, you know what?
53:32It's garbage time.
53:33I don't care.
53:34I know that was embarrassing.
53:36You guys know I can do it in practice, but it's scary when the rush is there.
53:40I was, I heard the footsteps.
53:41I was like, Oh yeah, it's a lot.
53:43It's a lot different.
53:44Once the lights come on, the amount of interceptions I threw on my first, my first snap, my first
53:48game in there.
53:49And then, you know, you take the edge off, you throw the pick and then, and then it's
53:52guns blazing after that.
53:53But enough of me and Taylor, enough of our football playing days.
53:56Cause it's Patriots now.
53:57Yeah, exactly.
53:58But it's Patriots.
54:00It's jets on Sunday in Foxborough.
54:02We will be there for coverage.
54:03So make sure you keep it here at Patriots press pass rate review and subscribe to the
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54:09We'll have a pregame show on the post game show.
54:10We'll have our standups, all of our coverage.
54:12We'll have some written stuff on clnsmedia.com.
54:14So make sure you keep it up, keep up with it there on the website, follow Taylor on
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54:23This was our Patriots versus jets preview.
54:25If it came in in the middle of it, make sure you go all the way back to this front.
54:29We talk about Patriots injuries, stopping the run, establishing the run and how Drake
54:32may can go deep and get after this jets defense.
54:35So until Sunday, thanks for watching.
54:37We appreciate y'all being here.
54:39Take care of yourselves, take care of each other and we'll see you next time.
54:41Peace out everyone.
54:59Well, longer than we thought.