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00:00Let me just say this really quick, it'll be an unpopular opinion because Lucas will probably
00:04tweet it and it'll be totally out of context and all that.
00:07It's what we do.
00:08It's not all about a championship.
00:12It's not.
00:13It's about warrior basketball.
00:16You don't get to just walk around and say every year is about a championship.
00:21It's not.
00:22The Lakers didn't just make a move about a championship, they made a move about the face
00:28of their franchise for the next six years or more.
00:33But they got markedly worse defensively, they also upset their apple cart, and I don't even
00:40know if they were a real contender in the first place.
00:47This is what I mean.
00:48I don't mean that they shouldn't try every year and that we don't demand excellence.
00:53It's not about that.
00:55But not every move can be about a ring, because 99% of moves are not about a ring.
01:04But you can make a move to be at least in the mix, and you're not even close to in the
01:08mix right now.
01:09And that's the point.
01:11And do you mean in the mix now, or do you mean keep your assets to potentially be in
01:17the mix down the road?
01:18I want to be in the mix every year, and right now you're not.
01:22So if you don't make a trade at all and you just stand pat with what you have, you might
01:26get the 10 seed, and now you're going to win two play-in games, and you've never won a
01:30play-in game in your history of play-in games.
01:32And so if you make a trade, I just want your team to get better.
01:36I want you to get better now, and I also don't want you to make a trade now to where you
01:40won't be able to get better in the future.
01:43Agreed.
01:44And by the way, we've used the word entertainment, and I know it bothers people because it's
01:48as if we're just here for some sort of sideshow.
01:52Let's change the word a little bit.
01:53If that bothers you, that like, I do think the Warriors need to be entertaining.
01:58It's not just that.
01:59Here's a better word.
02:01The Warriors need to be relevant, okay?
02:03And you don't have to win a ring to be relevant.
02:06You really don't, okay?
02:08Last year, the Dallas Mavericks became relevant.
02:11They did not win a ring.
02:13They did not win a ring.
02:14And Luka is a relevant player, and he's never won a ring.
02:18And Anthony Edwards is a relevant player who's never even come close to winning a ring.
02:24And look at who the Mavs have given up in recent years.
02:28Jalen Brunson is now a relevant player on a very good team with the Knicks that has
02:33never won a ring and probably won't because it's at the same time as what the Celtics
02:40and the Cavs are doing.
02:42And then here's the Oklahoma City Thunder.
02:44Can they get it done?
02:45Maybe, but maybe not.
02:47They've never won a ring.
02:48They've never won a ring.
02:49So to me, it's about relevancy.
02:53Well the Warriors aren't that.
02:55Correct.
02:57Which is why I would be in favor of them doing something to try to become relevant again
03:02even if it doesn't end up winning a ring.
03:06And the hope is that you've got a smart front office that won't crater the next decade in
03:10order to do it and will keep their flexibility to replenish their resources if things don't
03:17end up where you want to go.
03:18You just don't have to be desperate just because other teams made big moves.
03:22And if you can't make a trade that protects you for the future and also helps you in the
03:28short term, then I'm not interested in that sort of a move.
03:31And I think that's what Phil Moe Mike was talking about.
03:33And it's not like compete for a championship, sure.
03:36If you're in the playoffs, you're going to compete for a championship.
03:39And this team right now can't even think about the playoffs because you're not even in the
03:43play-in.
03:44So yes, you want to be relevant.
03:46You want to be competitive.
03:47But you have to be able to get in the mix for that to happen.
03:51Chris in San Jose here on Willard and Dibs.
03:53Let's get through as many of these as we can.
03:55A lot of you want to weigh in.
03:56We want to hear from all of you.
03:57Hey, Chris, thanks for calling.
03:58Hey, what's happening, gentlemen?
03:59A couple of things.
04:00Just wanted to like kind of touch on the Warrior situation from my perspective and then touch
04:06on the Luka thing.
04:08You know, whether it's, you know, Luka Doncic, that was a surprise to everybody.
04:13So you want to talk about Fox.
04:15You want to talk about Levine, some of the guys that we were actually, you know, speaking
04:19about being traded, not a single one of those, you could have given up, you know, a fringe
04:25piece that isn't one of our top five players.
04:28Not a single one of those players would have brought the Warriors into championship contention.
04:33Again, just my, my opinion.
04:36So while what Fillmore was saying is true, there is a certain aspect to it.
04:40Like, yeah, we want Curry to win more championships than LeBron.
04:43And then at this point in time, when you've won four championships, like really, like
04:48who cares about getting to the first, like who cares?
04:51I mean, seriously, first round of the playoffs, maybe you win and then you get bounced in
04:55the second round.
04:56Nobody cares about that.
04:57I do not going to hurt.
04:58I do.
04:59Chris, you might.
05:00And you might.
05:01And you might.
05:02And Steph does.
05:03And Steph does.
05:04Like, and I get it.
05:07They want a chance.
05:08They want to get in the dance.
05:09I totally understand that.
05:10It's like the quote for baseball, hope springs eternal.
05:13You never know who's on April 1st or March, whenever they start now, you never know who's
05:18going to be the dark horse teams.
05:19You know, the, all the years, the giants won the championship.
05:22You never thought that they were going to win the championship entering the season.
05:25So I get that.
05:26You get in the dance, you got a chance.
05:29This is just my opinion.
05:30Mark.
05:31I don't think they have a chance to win a championship no matter any of those moves
05:34that they've made.
05:36So the pieces that we have a value are Steph Curry to me, Steph, Jonathan Kaminga and picks.
05:44Nobody is gonna, nobody's going to want Draymond for anything more than an incremental, maybe
05:48a second rounder, not even a late first to me, you know, a fringe guy.
05:53So Draymond's off the table.
05:55We don't want to trade Curry.
05:57We don't want to trade Kaminga and that's who people want.
06:00So you guys keep floating around this idea, Oh, they can trade a Schroeder the day before
06:04the deadline.
06:05We got Schroeder for nothing.
06:07They gave him away for literally nothing.
06:10So we think that we're going to be able to package Kavon Looney, Schroeder and some other
06:15guy or a pick for what?
06:17Yeah.
06:18See, so Chris going to Chris, we want to get to a few other people.
06:23Let me just say this in dibs.
06:24I don't know where you're at on it, Chris.
06:26I see it differently than you as far as assets.
06:30I totally get where Chris is coming from with regard to how much other teams might
06:35want the Warriors players.
06:38But when I'm looking around the league, I don't see this as often being a player for
06:43player thing.
06:45The Luca ad thing is obviously weird.
06:49It's incredibly rare.
06:51It's eyebrow raising.
06:52I still don't really know what happened there, but let's take the Kings for example.
06:57Do you think that they were like, let's trade De'Aaron Fox because we can get Zach Levine?
07:02No, they had to take Zach Levine so that money could match.
07:06They had to trade De'Aaron Fox.
07:07Exactly.
07:08And what they actually wanted were picks.
07:11And so when we talk about Schroeder and Looney, don't look at them as Schroeder and Looney.
07:16Look at them as-
07:17It's 13 million and eight million.
07:18Exactly.
07:19It's money that comes off the books and what a lot of these teams do want, not all of them,
07:24but a lot of them want expiring deals and picks.
07:28It's literally, if they could do the deal without having salaries match, they would.
07:33They don't want the player.
07:35They want the flexibility and the picks so that they can reboot.
07:39I think that's more often the norm is all I'm saying.
07:42Yes, especially for these teams that are looking to stack picks and acquire as many assets
07:47as possible.
07:48And that's where San Antonio was.
07:49They had nine first round picks that were tradable.
07:53And so they could still go out and make another trade because they built up this war chest
07:57of draft picks.
07:58And so they're able to make these moves.
08:00Oklahoma City's done the same thing.
08:02Now Brooklyn is going about it in the same sort of a way where they're arming themselves
08:07with all these picks so that they can take three to five years to get better.
08:11The Warriors are never going to be that team with Joe Lacob as the owner.
08:15They don't want to be a lottery team.
08:17They don't want to sit back and wait for three or four years.
08:20So from that standpoint, yeah, the picks become a little bit more movable because I don't
08:25think that Joe Lacob is going to be the kind of an owner where after Steph and Draymond
08:30and all this era ends, I don't think he's going to want to sit with eight first round
08:34picks over three years and just slowly rebuild the team.
08:38He's going to want to go out there in the free agent market and get the best player
08:42available and pay him top dollar and try to prolong what this has been.
08:47Let's get through as many of these as we can.
08:49Is it Koron in Walnut Creek?
08:52Koron, what's going on?
08:53Thanks for the call.
08:54Koron, are you there?
08:55I'll check in.
08:56I'll check in.
08:57All right.
08:58All right.
08:59He's talking to somebody else.
09:00They're ordering a burger or something.
09:01See if you can get Koron going.
09:02Let's go to Chris in Fairfield.
09:03Hi, Chris.
09:04Thank you for the call.
09:05Thanks for the call.
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