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00:00Needed that one big-time better now. Um
00:03Yeah, I don't think I mean he rested and they won. Yeah, so and I that's awesome
00:09And I thought they would I told you all day yesterday expect you to go out win the basketball game, right?
00:14And they did but yeah, that's a relief. That was a relief
00:18Just my opinion and they were they were up a creek if they lose that basketball game last night be tough
00:24I think they were up a creek if they lose that basketball game last night
00:28New Orleans is coming to Minnesota starting tonight for two games. Thanks
00:33Just go ahead and stay in town and let us get a couple victories
00:36Clippers in the end cruise through the fourth quarter to defeat the Cleveland Cavaliers last night
00:42This is how it's gonna be. The urgency is you got to win every single night now with all that said
00:50Yes, super impressive super impressive mainly two guys
00:54I mean, there's a lot of things you can do looking around the court
00:57but what I love is that
01:00They make the decision for Steph Curry to sit or or he had to or whatever the hell was going on behind the scenes
01:06And you have two other super experienced big names and my god
01:11They turned the volume up Jimmy running the offense and Draymond running the defense was unbelievable
01:17Yes, I mean you look at Draymond's line three four and ten
01:20It's like I'm a Draymond quiet night
01:23But then you actually watch the game and you watch what Draymond did against Giannis and the fact that he he did not score
01:29Against Draymond green and he's got to be seven inches taller at least in the wingspan and Giannis
01:35You know when he gets downhill, he's unguardable and all the rest of it and Draymond was
01:40Unbelievable, so I'm not trying to poo-poo is DPO why?
01:45Quest his candidacy. I don't think he's going to get it. But what he did last night was completely
01:51Like you were talking about
01:53The best defensive player in basketball for a long time because nobody else can do what he does. Yep. Yep
01:59I mean, that's the other it's sort of I it's funny
02:02Draymond as a great defensive player
02:06sometimes strikes a similarity in my mind the idea of Steph Curry's greatness as an offensive player and
02:13And here's what I mean by that. Do you give extra credit for?
02:17The fact that the person is doing what they're doing at a much smaller size than what they should be able to and a much
02:23Smaller size than what all the other people who are in their class do all these other look at the names
02:29We're throwing out there was Evan Mobley Oh Mobley Rudy Gobert
02:34Victor women Yama, where they all have in common
02:36They've all got a seven in the front of their height category all of them how women Yama is halfway to eight, right?
02:44Totally Draymond is six five
02:46Maybe six six all the other players who you would list as the top ten players of all time in the NBA
02:53All of them are at least six six
02:56Steph Curry might be six three maybe and I actually don't think he is
03:00I think he's six two and and so, you know, maybe that doesn't count in your mind
03:06But it does to me when we start talking about pound for pound
03:10I I don't know that in my NBA lifetime. I've ever seen a more intricate
03:17unique and
03:18Dominant and smart defender than Draymond Green
03:22Well in in modern NBA now
03:24He's being asked to do things that for example
03:27Dennis Rodman never would have been asked to do and you had Michael Jordan yet Scottie Pippen who were two also elite defenders
03:33So he didn't have to do what Draymond does and back then you didn't switch everything
03:38You didn't run so many pick and rolls. You didn't have the same pace
03:42And so, you know Dennis Rodman was a good defender who guarded forwards and he would guard a center, of course
03:49But you mentioned at the DPO I
03:51Going backward Rudy Gobert center Jaron Jackson jr. A center Marcus smart. I don't remember him
03:58Winning that award in 2022, but it did interesting and that's Gobert
04:04Giannis Gobert Gobert Gobert's got four of the last eight and it's because he's a
04:11He's because you read any cuz he registers thoughts, right?
04:14You're not green is a way better defender than Rudy Gobert
04:17Of course like way way way better defender
04:20There's no American guard one player the center the big man Rudy Gobert can kind of do one thing on a basketball court
04:27Right, he can he can try to block your shot and then sometimes he can rebound the basketball
04:32I know his rebounding numbers are okay. They're considering his size
04:36I think they actually stink the fact that it's difficult for him to get to 11 rebounds a night. He should be getting 18
04:42I mean
04:43Jokic does and and he's working way harder on the other end of the court than Gobert is if I gave you
04:48Rudy Gobert or Dwight Howard, who's a better player? Oh, uh, I would take Dwight Howard
04:54I'm talking about pride you do. Yeah, I would take Dwight Howard and I don't love Dwight Howard. Oh, he's odd
05:00No in flawed, but like if you want to compare the two because that to me is what Rudy Gobert is
05:06He's Dwight Howard, but Dwight Howard is a little bit of a better score than Gobert, but both are
05:13basically like shot blocking
05:15Rebounding bigs and yet I'm looking here at Dwight Howard and he he won three straight
05:20DPO wise and Gobert's got four in total, but is Draymond a better defender than Rudy and Dwight Howard?
05:28Absolutely, he doesn't block as many shots
05:30I'm a more valuable player at least to to what the Warriors have done and it reminds me of like the whole thing about NFL
05:37MVP, it's always a quarterback
05:39Does that mean that the NFL MVP is like the quarterback is the most valuable player in in football?
05:45No, of course not, but that's what we do. Here's Draymond on this topic, by the way, and
05:51And why certain players?
05:53Him being one of them have not got more defensive player of the year awards through the years
05:59Because I think the voters look at stat numbers and I don't want to oversell myself
06:05Because I have so much respect for Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett
06:09But I do think I'm that great defensively and if you don't watch the game you can miss it
06:15And I think if you just go look at the stats it don't always tell the story and so for a player like
06:21KG for a player like Tim Duncan myself. It ain't all about the blocks. It's not all about the steals
06:26What are you covering and I think like myself they cover for everybody and when you can cover for everybody, you know
06:33Sometimes you can get a lot of steals and there's guys covering for you because you're getting a lot of steals
06:37You're probably taking a lot of risk we cover for people and I think that's why I have one and they have one
06:43Because you you know
06:44You got some people that has a vote on the East Coast that probably see us play four times a year
06:49And if you look at the stats, you know, I'd be like, oh I drank my average one still in a block
06:53Oh, those aren't those numbers don't jump off the page at you to go watch me play and then you go ask the opposing coach
06:59What did I do to their offense? It's a different story same for Timmy D same for KG
07:03And so, you know, I think when you look at it
07:06The award is widely based off statistics and those statistics don't always tell the story
07:11Some guys get the stats and get picked on some guys get the stats and can be a liability
07:17To their defense they take too many chances the defense break down. We don't do that
07:22Sometimes you get punished for but championships all three of us got so I'm sure just like myself
07:28They they'd much rather have those than more defensive players, but I want another one and I ain't retired yet
07:34So shout out to the emojis. There are incredible great, but I still got a chance
07:39Yeah, I mean he's probably gonna come in second or third
07:42Women now, yeah, absolutely
07:44And his cop is is curious because KG got one and Tim Duncan never got one. He never got one never
07:51Okay, and I'm looking at the list right now. And if if he wanted to really like put it out there
07:55It's Rudy Gobert who's got four and I'm looking at the list mark
07:59And if you look at the history of the award going back to 1983, there have only been 11
08:06non-centers who've won it in
08:0942 years, so it's basically you're the best shot blocker. You get the award and that that's kind of been the way it's gone
08:15yeah, yeah, and by the way, just
08:19granny just mentioned while you were
08:21Mentioning that there that those names are the Draymond brought up were brought up in the question
08:25Okay
08:26So there was a little bit of a leading of the witness there
08:28With regard to Kevin Garnett Tim Duncan and what have you but Draymond makes a really good point
08:33About box score babies and I this is always a thing when it's Heisman's
08:37MVPs whatever it is and he mentions East Coast people with votes who may only see him play four times a year
08:44It's very possible. You go to bed you wake up
08:47Let's take a look at that Bucs Warriors box score and the way media works, especially with fantasy sports
08:55Underdog what's going on? How are you?
08:57Like everybody wants to know the numbers and those numbers don't really tell a story you could say
09:05Last night, okay
09:08Giannis Attentacompo flirts with a triple-double in loss
09:12There's a headline. Does that tell you a story not at all? He scored 20 points. He had nine rebounds
09:19He had seven assists. Let me say it a different way. He disappeared off my television screen, right?
09:25Well John and erased him Giannis scored half of his points from the free-throw line
09:31And it's free-throw shooting leaves a lot to be desired
09:34I don't even get me started all of his shooting done
09:36You know what? I mean anytime and it was funny before the game even started
09:41they were talking about guarding Giannis and
09:44Young Jude age 11 goes. How are they gonna? How are they gonna stop this guy tonight?
09:48I said well
09:49I think you probably guard him the same way you see other teams
09:53Guard a coming or a Draymond even though they're very different challenges for sure
09:57I'm not comparing those guys to to to Giannis
10:00But what I'm saying is is if you can get him to pull up from 12 feet or further away
10:06You've done your job. You you did your job and
10:10That's that's what I see when Giannis settles for those jumpers. He's not
10:15He's not a good shooter
10:17He's not a good shooter and they were able to do that and he was able to force his way to the free-throw line
10:22A bunch of times but if you got half of his points coming from the free-throw line
10:26That's the stat that Steve Kerr who joins us at 430 kept pointing to five field goals
10:32You held Giannis to five made field goals. That is an absolutely
10:39Unbelievable piece of work, especially when he's twice your size and Draymond allowed zero made field goals
10:45So I wonder about the whole nature of the voting and you know Draymond won it in 2017 and even in that year
10:52He only had two steals and one and a half blocks a game so why then was he more of a you know
11:00Guy you could vote for as opposed to now where I know the Warriors don't have the best defense in mobiles on a team
11:06That is amazing. That's your answer. He's probably gonna win it more wins, right Warriors had more wins back
11:12Yeah, but if even if you look at like the history of it go bear one last year and Minnesota was not the one seed
11:17No, we look at go bear with you know, oh two blocks a game in the stifle tower. And so we give it to him
11:23Yeah, that's the thing. It's it's it's names. It's it's stats and then it's also flavor of the month
11:30It's part of what guru just said, you know spread it around a little bit. What have you?
11:35I know go bears won four times, but that that's there's that thought like we do that
11:40We do that with MVPs a lot where it's like, okay. Well you you want it last year?
11:45So let's go with Joel Embiid this year and and we try to move it around
11:49We probably shouldn't we shouldn't like you should get that men in black thingy
11:54At the at the end of every single season like everyone's like a little flashy thingy
12:00And then you're like you have no idea. You have absolutely no idea who won last year and then vote from that space
12:08That's always what I've wanted for NBA review
12:11Flashy thingy bring somebody out of a dark room and go we're not gonna tell you
12:16What the call was just look at this play and tell us what you see and that way you're not jaded
12:24Because everybody's jaded. It's impossible not to be no matter what we're talking about in life. So
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