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00:00But I've lived my life this way and it's got me in trouble a time or two and it may get the Warriors in trouble
00:04a time or two that's that's certainly a possibility, but
00:08If if all of the sudden everybody is in favor of the idea of risk then then this is the risk you take I
00:15don't care about
00:18The future right now. I just don't I
00:21I
00:23have faith that the organization is going to figure that out and
00:28They will have ways to do that. It does not mean that I am in favor of an
00:34Irresponsible deal and let's change that word because the whole responsibility thing makes it sound like wow
00:40We've got to invest and no, it's not about responsibility. You just don't make a bad deal
00:46Don't pay too much for whatever
00:49And I believe in the Warriors ability to do that but
00:55Everything that we've talked about dibs for the last couple of years about now versus the future sure comes to a head this week
01:03now is officially here and
01:05And I don't think there are that many people who aren't on the same boat
01:09The Warriors have got to do something now as much for PR as for basketball
01:16I get the PR part of it. But if you're gonna do something now for me, it's either
01:21Kevin Durant or you resign yourself to the reality that it's gonna be a smaller
01:27incremental safer move a Cam Johnson and
01:31Nicola Vucevich type of move where you get rid of a couple of expirings and maybe you send a second round pick
01:36I don't want to get reckless with the future and you and I differ on the future and I don't want to trade Jonathan
01:44Kaminga and it seems like they don't want to either I don't want to give up multiple firsts just to swing and
01:50swing for the fences for
01:52Anybody now if you get the idea that you want to bring in and have Steph KD and LeBron
01:58By the time you start next year if that is your dream. Well, then maybe I'm more open to
02:04Having this big swing and parting with future assets
02:07But to bring in KD now and then the idea would be LeBron would opt out in the summer and he would sign
02:14A deal that would work because you can't pay KD
02:1850 in Steph 58 and then LeBron 63 and still have Draymond and Wiggins
02:24I mean none of that would would work so there would have to be some other maneuvers that happen
02:29But if that's what you really want to go for then at that point sure
02:34We can go ahead and trade a couple of picks
02:36You could even trade Kaminga if you want for one last swing
02:39But just know what you're looking at in the future LeBron will be 41 in December
02:44KD's old Steph is old
02:4637 if you want to relive the Olympic dream for a year and you want to give up multiple firsts and Kaminga and
02:53Wiggins all for that just know that you're looking at five years or longer of pure misery
02:59Maybe maybe not see but that that's my point. I just don't understand
03:04Why we we think about one move and then we decide that automatically means X
03:10there's 17 ifs in there and
03:13You're watching teams right now who have given up picks, and then they replenish them
03:17Do you know that Sacramento yesterday in one of it of all the assets that moved you know what they got?
03:24They get their pick back one of their own pick. Yeah, and I think
03:27or so
03:29Dallas did one of the other teams involved in those trades got their pick exactly so one move just leads to another
03:35So if you do push some chips into the middle of the table today
03:39It does not mean that you can't get some of those chips back down the road
03:44I'm not saying that you for sure can but think of the parlay you're actually playing if you're concerned
03:51with the giving up of
03:53Picks right now
03:55Especially if we're dealing with like Dallas and LA did
03:592029
04:00For that to actually become a thing I hear people do this. Oh my gosh three years from now
04:05You're gonna need that pick because that's when Steph is gonna leave and you're really gonna need that pick well
04:10Who's on the team by then so I don't even know I don't know
04:14Well, what's the rest of the league look like have you gotten the pick back by the way?
04:18What if you do keep that pick it's like if we're bad by then
04:22It'll be a good pick and if the lottery goes our way and if the draft has good players in it that year
04:27And if we make the right selection, and then if we develop that player
04:31But I tell you what dibs seven years from now. We might have a good player on our hands
04:36that's what you're gonna hold on to rather than going to get something that you know could entertain and
04:44and potentially
04:46Move the Warriors up the standings. I'd like in the short term. Yes
04:51bring in a
04:5237 year old to go with your 37 year old and you might have a year or two and Katie's got this year and one
04:58More and if that's the player or Jimmy Butler, and you're gonna give up future assets
05:02And you know this all ends and however it ends probably not in a championship
05:07But it might it's allowed to and then you turn the page and you realize in 2026 boy
05:13We don't have a lot of picks and we don't have much to trade because Steph is 39 and Katie's a free agent
05:18And so now we're gonna. Just hope that we're a lottery team in four years when we actually have our pick
05:24But that's all ifs there's I know, but it's also an if when you bring in Kevin Durant at 37
05:30I'm sure it's involved in any I mean there's
05:32Anything is an if I guess but you're you're still dealing with somebody who's averaging almost 28 points a night sure okay?
05:38So like I you know what I mean
05:40I just and you you're pretty confident that he will fit here because he is fit before it would totally fit
05:45But and you wonder what you're left with if you do bring in Kevin Durant making 51. You're gonna have to get rid of
05:52either Draymond or Wiggins and
05:54Schroeder and more and Phoenix is in a spot where they can't take any more money, so you need a third team
06:01Maybe you even need a fourth team well
06:03This would probably involve Butler getting the Phoenix somehow if it all right
06:07Probably would involve a fourth team as well to make everything balance out because financially you and Phoenix are both in the same spot
06:14Yeah, no no no worries again like I mean if a move doesn't work you make a new one
06:20Like that's the way I look at it again
06:22I'm not saying make bad deals, but I think I speak for a lot of warrior fans right now
06:28This week cannot be nothing
06:30They can't
06:32Like it just it just can't and in fact. I think that's what Shams is saying here listen to how he
06:37Characterizes the Warriors on Pat McAfee today the Warriors are legitimately calling about every all-star player
06:44You just may name the all-star player the Warriors have probably called it and Paul George
06:48They probably called up they have called they made calls on
06:51Every star and that of course includes players like LeBron players like Kevin Durant players like Jimmy Butler
06:57They are making calls. They are dead set on trying to find another star player
07:02Superstar player with Stephen Curry that is another subplot to the straight deadline as well
07:06I mean I like by the way I forgot that on my list LeBron. Yes, LeBron is on the list
07:12Yeah, that's a yes of course. Yeah, that's a yes for you, so your list is basically Embiid
07:17KD
07:18LeBron
07:19John and right
07:22In there
07:24Zion I would say yes
07:26at least intrigued
07:27Interested yeah, and that would be a buy low kind of a deal because I think that his contracts not fully guaranteed
07:33So you may not need to part with as much and he might actually might be more in that that second tier
07:39But you're out on Paul George for sure yep
07:42And you're out on Bradley Beal and you're out on Jimmy Butler as well correct on guys you're out on so
07:47There's some guys you're in on I don't think DeRozan would happen
07:51Sacramento trading with Golden State to me seems like a
07:55Non-starter for them in terms of a match
07:58I don't know if the VEC would green light a trade with Golden State a team that he was totally connected with it's a little
08:05Different with DeRozan. I feel like then what how I would have answered it with Fox Fox was was
08:10The hot commodity was a homegrown King is a homegrown King who is in his
08:16Mid 20s and is going to have an imprint on this league for a long time
08:21DeRozan is a hired gun who showed up six days ago and
08:25And and and you know is on in the twilight of his career as well
08:28I don't think that that's nearly as difficult for Sacramento to part with that's all I'm saying yeah
08:33I get that but I do think that the trade with Golden State would not be something that would be looked upon favorably
08:39By that fan base
08:41You know I don't think Sacramento would want to do Golden State any favors even though that they're in a spot
08:48It looks like they're not totally
08:50Rebuilding, but they're certainly kind of churning this roster over a little bit depends on what they get back. Don't you think I mean?
08:57It's not it's not send a rose into Golden State because they're doing the Warriors a favor
09:02It's send a rose into Golden State because Sacramento is yet again
09:07rebooting and
09:09Would probably like to replenish young assets like that's what they largely got for DeAaron Fox
09:15This is Zach Levine thing cracks me up how many warrior fans I that I hear being like oh my god
09:22Sacramento beat you to Zach Levine, and we could have Levine last year nobody wants Levine
09:28Nobody wants that contract I understand that he scores the basketball
09:32But for for two years the Chicago Bulls have been trying to send Levine anywhere
09:39That that would take him and no one would take him and then you finally had a team that literally for salary reasons
09:46It's totally up a creek has to get rid of their star
09:49Everybody knows it so no one's gonna. Give you a prime player for it, and then you're like alright
09:55We'll do Levine, and we'll get a truckload of picks attached with Levine because we need something to match DeAaron's salary
10:01The Sacramento did not beat Golden State to Levine. They just took Levine
10:06Finally yeah were the team that the Chicago needed to offload their bad contract right and Sacramento's got him for I think
10:14Two more years two and a half years
10:17so Sacramento will
10:19Have him be a good score for them until they can trade him just looking at the DeRozan trade idea
10:26DeRozan for Wiggins straight up would work with Sacramento the Warriors according to the Hollinger analysis would lose 13 wins
10:34Oh, what 13 wins DeRozan is 13 games worse than Andrew Wiggins straight up according to the Hollinger analysis
10:42That doesn't make any sense, and I'm not by the way. I'm not proposing that that would be a straight-up, right?
10:47I'm just put that in as a one-to-one because they're making close to the same amount
10:51And you know for me any of these trades that we talked about involves Andrew Wiggins and so
10:58Thinking about that necessarily well. I mean if you're gonna get KD
11:01How do you do it yes KD, but DeRozan to me?
11:04That's that's a level down if you're looking at Vucevic or Cam Johnson. Yeah, that's a keep Wiggins
11:10And DeRozan could be a keep Wiggins. That's a GP2 and Kavon and maybe a Gee and Picks
11:15Right to bring in another player
11:17And you know that to me would be and I wonder what the fan base would think about that today
11:22Like last week you and Grandy you were all hot on it and fans were excited about he's a good young player
11:28And he gets you about 20 a night and Grandy ran down the stats
11:32I don't need to bring all that back up again
11:35But in light of everything that happened over the weekend that would feel more like a disappointment
11:41Than it did last well
11:42I agree with you
11:43But I I do want to caution like it's not like the Warriors get to go get a star just because they wanna of course
11:49Like these are these are not these are not deals that just come together because you really say it
11:55What trades are hard trades are hard turns out trades are easy well
11:59They're not I mean based on what we found out
12:01I mean
12:02Polenka and Dallas met for coffee three weeks ago and no one else knew about it except for everyone's calling it the craziest thing that's
12:08Happened in the history of the league the DeAaron thing is is the that's the story we've heard before
12:14Star player does not want to be on team anymore makes them trade him
12:18They do that's the way it usually works
12:20And I don't really know who else is out there like that other than Butler and and that thing has gotten so toxic
12:26But I don't even know who the hell can touch it anymore or or what's gonna work
12:31But you don't just get a star because charms is telling Pat McAfee that the Warriors are very very motivated
12:38Yeah, I mean you can be motivated all you want, but you don't just get a star
12:43So like I would prep myself for maybe this isn't gonna feel the way you want it to feel on Thursday
12:49I'd like I I think that they have to do something
12:53I don't know that they're just gonna be able to land Durant or LeBron because they want to right well
12:58Look the LeBron one for me feels much more like an offseason move it you're probably right
13:03Seems to me more like all eyes on KD, and that is where it gets really fascinating for me
13:10Not only could they but would he would he want to come back and play with Draymond?
13:15And I know I'm kind of speculating on the way that all ended and it's water under the bridge now
13:20And it's been what five years since he was here and everyone grows up and people change and you can evolve and all the rest
13:28of it, but you know you would have to get rid of a lot of player and picks to
13:34Phoenix and probably facilitate it through Miami you know Wiggins to Miami
13:38Butler to Phoenix Durant here other pieces flying around the country
13:43I don't know how many picks you'd have to give up turns out you get Luka for one
13:47Basically, I don't know and the Butler situation is a mess and unique and all of that
13:54but
13:55Yeah, that's that that's one that I would absolutely do. I don't know how viable the whole thing is let's go to
14:02Gil and El Cerrito hi Gil you're all willing to dibs. What's up?
14:06Thanks for taking my call
14:08Sure explain to me, please. I don't
14:10Understand your fascination
14:14With acquiring these older players whose best days are behind them
14:20I got that deal
14:22Why don't we upgrade the scouting department scout draft and develop our own talent?
14:29I know that the Golden State Warriors don't have a stellar record of developing talent
14:35But guess what how old is KD about 35 or 36 years old correct?
14:39And I don't understand Jimmy Butler or just talk about Jimmy Butler or Paul George at all
14:46The Warriors cannot do this anymore
14:50Thank you for taking my call. Yeah, thanks for making it Gil
14:53It's a very fair perspective. It's not one that I share and
14:58But I get it and I think that every fan gets to come from their own
15:02Perspective with regard to what we're trying to do here if what you're trying to do is
15:07Is be again to me, there's no room for rational this week
15:12But if you want to be rational and you want to say the era is over and so you need to start
15:18Drafting and developing and doing the Oklahoma City model. I think you've got a lot of people in your corner
15:25Totally get it
15:27Just not signing up for it. And there are a few reasons why
15:30Oklahoma City does that because they live in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
15:35Oklahoma ain't never gonna get a free agent ever
15:39period so the Warriors live on the coast and
15:42They at least fashion themselves as more of a Lakers Knicks type of Miami
15:50Franchise and if that's the case, I do think you look
15:54Not as far into the future and not as far into the draft and development as other franchises
16:00I'd argue for a second about the whole Warriors track record sucks as far as
16:04Developing bunch of players on their roster that they developed that actually won some rings and all that stuff
16:09I think their record is not perfect. It's better than people give it credit for yeah
16:13But that's those players are you know, it's a long time in the past, right?
16:17But even a coming in a Jordan pool and people that like fans like like it's not
16:21It's not like they've never developed a player before agreed and the idea of draft and developed to me is much more of a crapshoot
16:27Than the other approach which is either trade for a star or get a star to come in free agency
16:34And I'm just looking at the 2021 draft when they had coming in moody both in the lottery and you have
16:40Three four guys in that first round who've gone on to be all-stars and the rest of them
16:45You've got Davion Mitchell James book book book night a guy named Josh Primo
16:52You've got a bunch of misses right among the hits and so you can draft and develop and coming and
16:59Moody were drafted and their development is maybe slower than most people would want but
17:04Drafting and developing is not as easy as I'm just gonna take a guy and we're gonna make him be good
17:10Yeah
17:10and like I agree with you completely and then here the the other answer to that question is this and I know that
17:16Again a lot of warrior fans will agree with this and there'll be plenty of you who who disagree
17:23But the bottom line for me is this the Steph Curry
17:27Story is
17:29Different it just is
17:31Okay, there's been this question that's been running around 95-7 the game all day
17:36Which is if the Mavs had called Joe Lacob and offered Luca for Steph Curry
17:40What do you think he would have done or what would you have done?
17:43I think he would have told them to kick rocks. I think he would have told them
17:47No, and I think a lot of basketball minds go that's absurd. Of course, you take the star who's 25 years old
17:54Versus the star who's 37 years old. What are you crazy?
17:58Right, but I'd argue the second you do that and Steph Curry wakes up in a Mavericks jersey today
18:03More than half the fan base is literally in tears
18:06So the bottom line is and the other half of them have pitchforks and torches
18:10I'm not sitting here trying to tell you this is the perfect basketball thing to do
18:15I am telling you that this is the perfect entertainment thing to do and by the way, that's what just happened. I
18:23Don't don't get it twisted. I do not believe that over the weekend
18:28Teams made moves that suddenly are gonna get them a ring or are going to be about draft and development
18:35Because things aren't going well
18:37I think stars all change teams that are all not gonna play in June this year. None of them
18:43None of them the Lakers can't play defense the Mavs have got to figure out that pairing
18:48De'Aaron Fox will go to the Spurs and they're a bunch of pups. The Kings got stuff. Whatever bunch of picks
18:54They weren't relevant. They still won't be and right now the Warriors aren't either but if you did get Kevin Durant and
19:02And then that potentially even led to something further in the offseason
19:06I do think you further the story of
19:10Steph Curry and the Warriors and relevant agreed that the story would be more interesting
19:16But even if you just get Kevin Durant here in the next three days, I don't think that that vaults you anywhere
19:22Where you're gonna be a real threat in the Western Conference and you could say that about the Lakers
19:27I do think that the Lakers got better and they're already in a playoff spot
19:32San Antonio got better and they're sitting only two games behind the Warriors. So you feel like they might jump you maybe Sacramento
19:38I don't think got better
19:39They might have gotten a little bit worse, but you still have to pass them to even get into the play-in
19:44So your point about what these trades did other than entertainment as far as the standings go
19:50It didn't do a lot Oklahoma City's 38-9. Did they wake up on Saturday morning and think oh no
19:56Oh, no, we're we're in a precarious spot, but that's what warrior fans are doing right now
20:00No, nobody is thinks the Warriors need to make a move to go in a ring
20:04You want to be relevant?
20:06You want to be excited you want to be fun and exciting and interesting and relevant Dennis Schroeder for D
20:12Anthony Melton while a good sensible move
20:15Yeah trade an injured guy for somebody who might help you that didn't really thrill you that didn't necessarily make you a whole lot better
20:23But at the deadline now the calculus has changed among fans fans now want to be wowed