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00:00Hey, we promised that Slater sound, let's check this out.
00:06Cominga's restricted free agency and what currently is that number?
00:12Where is the discussion?
00:13This is from FanDuel TV and our buddy Anthony Slater visiting.
00:18You got to wonder, you know, what's the league's belief in him?
00:21You really only need one suitor, but who might offer sheet him?
00:23I think this might go to an offer sheet type situation and you guys know how restricted
00:27free agency.
00:28You know, restricted free agency kind of comes with its own challenges on the player side.
00:32It's very team controlled because they can really call bluffs and just match if they
00:36want to.
00:37And, you know, Brooklyn is a name I've heard, obviously, you know, like they're they're
00:41a team with space.
00:42They're a team that could use kind of a, you know, a young on the rise potential, you know,
00:48wing star.
00:49If you if Brooklyn believes he is, you know, going to going to turn into that he part of
00:52his upbringing was in Brooklyn.
00:54So, yes, his price tag goes way up if a team like Brooklyn is willing to go in.
00:59But if the Warriors play hardball, you know, maybe we're talking in the twenty five to
01:03thirty five million per year, which might sound like a lot.
01:06But in this day and age, that's kind of like middle tier.
01:08Yeah.
01:09And by the way, that's a big range.
01:12But yeah, I'm not like are you put off by that number?
01:16I like boy, twenty five.
01:18I'd take Jonathan Kaminga for twenty five million a year right now.
01:23Probably even thirty.
01:24Right.
01:25And you're dealing with five years and one twenty five or five years and one fifty.
01:29If you can get five years for that, absolutely.
01:31You take it.
01:32And that would be less than Draymond, less than Wiggins, certainly less than Steph.
01:38And I think it would also give you the ability to go out and add another player because coming
01:42off the books, you've got GP two and Kavon Looney, which is about 18 million right there.
01:49And Kyle Anderson comes off the books and Dennis Schroeder comes off the books.
01:52So that's about forty million dollars worth of players.
01:55So if you want to stay out of that second apron, which I'm sure Joe Lacob probably wouldn't
02:01mind going up in that area if the player was the right player to do that or if you're a
02:07contender.
02:08Right.
02:09So that's probably the change in calculus now, don't you think?
02:11Yes.
02:12And I do think if you get coming for twenty five, it gives you the ability to maybe think
02:16about going out and spending more on a player who can help you get into contender status.
02:21Right.
02:22Or he also continues to be somebody who I think becomes almost a more tradable asset
02:28at that number because of salaries matching and whatnot.
02:31I'm not saying you want to immediately trade Jonathan Kaminga if you sign him.
02:36But throughout the next few years, is that something that could be on the table again?
02:41What if Steph really kind of goes downhill over the next couple of years and now Jonathan
02:45Kaminga is one of your highest paid players and that proves to not be like worthy?
02:51He's not worthy of being an NBA one and you've given up a first round draft pick trying to
02:56help Steph.
02:57Well, now you can trade Jonathan Kaminga and maybe recoup some of that draft capital.
03:01That's kind of the way I look at what the Warriors current situation is.
03:06Slates went on to talk about how protective the Warriors are of Jonathan Kaminga.
03:11They're protective of Jonathan Kaminga.
03:12You know, their restrictive free agency is going to be a big decision for them this summer.
03:17But he is like probably the one guy, he is the one guy of that lottery pick segment of
03:22their timeline here that still kind of has the chance to pop.
03:27I think, you know, he was really good before he came down on his ankle.
03:30He's probably still going to miss another month or so.
03:33But I do not expect him to be on the move before the deadline.
03:36Okay.
03:37So and I think that especially with the injury and the Warriors situation, we've kind of
03:41all arrived at that conclusion, right?
03:43I think Jonathan Kaminga being dealt here in the next two weeks feels off the table
03:48unless something develops that we don't see coming.
03:50Right.
03:51And I do think it's because of his injury and also the size of his salary.
03:55Because if you are going to trade him, he would be more of a throw-in as opposed to
04:00the centerpiece.
04:01And like you're saying, if you sign him for five years and $150 million, $30 million per,
04:07well now that contract becomes a tradable thing where a team, if he's playing well and
04:12he's outperforming his contract and he's 23 years old, a team would be more interested
04:17in him as opposed to you trade for him now and you know you have to give him a deal.
04:23And he's a restricted free agent.
04:25So it puts you in a little bit of a bind.
04:28If you don't want to pay him $40 million, you trade for him and somebody else offers
04:33him $40 million a year and you don't want to pay him $40.
04:36Now you're just going to let him walk and you get nothing for it.
04:38Yeah.
04:39No, I think that's what you want to avoid.
04:41But again, going back to his previous point, and Bobby Marks brought this team up too the
04:46last time he was on with us a number of weeks ago.
04:49Like we're literally talking about Brooklyn.
04:53I don't even know if we're talking about anybody else.
04:56I don't know what, if this does come down to leverage, and we've watched this happen
05:02with the 49ers the last two off seasons, I'm not sure about the Warrior situation, but
05:07if this does come down to leverage, I don't know that Jonathan has a ton.
05:13I just don't.
05:14He is a restricted free agent.
05:17And if they're like, there are not that many NBA teams, A, that have the space, and B,
05:23there aren't that many NBA teams that are even sort of like constructing rosters that
05:27way anymore.
05:28Like, if they're really going to open up the books and go crazy for somebody, it's not
05:34raw question marks who are still growing and are 22 years old.
05:41Like I just don't, I would be shocked if Brooklyn walked up to Jonathan Kaminga this off season
05:47and they're like, here we go, five years and over $200 million.
05:53That doesn't sound like something that an NBA GM is going to want to do.
05:57No.
05:58And if he is worth that, and if he plays to the point where he's worth 40 million a year,
06:03then the Warriors would keep him and pay him 40 million a year if he's going to play
06:08like that.
06:09And I think that Bobby's about right, and I think he said that to us when he joined
06:13us, that same range, about 25 to 30 million per year.
06:17And I'm just looking at the salary cap projected space for next year.
06:23Brooklyn's projected to have 91 million in salary cap space.
06:27The next highest is Washington at 40.
06:30So that gives you an idea of what you're talking about.
06:33Like the relative space, Brooklyn's going to have two and a half times what the next
06:38biggest cap number is.
06:40And so let's just say Washington does have 40 million in cap space.
06:45Do you want to allocate 30 of that to Jonathan Kaminga and have him be alongside Jordan Poole
06:51and Kyle Kuzma and that's your big three?
06:53Probably not.
06:54Yeah.
06:55Probably not.
06:56Adam Amin, the voice of the Bulls is on with us in just a few minutes.
06:58We wanted to play this one from Slates also on FanDuel TV.
07:02This is looking back on all the marketing rumors from the offseason and what it actually
07:07would have cost for the Warriors to get him.
07:11He matters within the conversation.
07:12It's also the one, and Steve Kerr has mentioned this specifically when I talked to him, the
07:15idea of like the Rudy Gobert style trade where it's four picks, three pick swaps, all the
07:19picks plus Kaminga, Pudzemski, and it's like, I can give you a specific example, like that's
07:25what Utah asked for this summer for Laurie Markkinen and they said no and Draymond's
07:29even on record basically hinting that it was the marketing situation that he told the front
07:33office like, yeah, that might help right now, but that is just like not a smart value trade
07:37to just trade everything away for, you know, a solid fringe all-star type guy that's probably
07:42not going to carry you to your next championship.
07:45Solid fringe all-star.
07:46That's a good way to describe Laurie Markkinen, who I like as a player, a big guy who can
07:51shoot.
07:52I don't know how much the Warriors would love that, but listen to that.
07:57That's the list, Kaminga, Pudzemski, and more salary fillers, at least three to four future
08:06first round draft picks and at least two or three first round pick swaps.
08:11That's what the price was for Laurie Markkinen according to Danny Age.
08:15And that means you do that and you bring in Laurie Markkinen and you give him the max
08:20and so now you've got Steph and Markkinen and Draymond and Wiggins and you're over the
08:25luxury tax for sure.
08:27You might be in the second apron by the time you pay Markkinen and now you're going all
08:31in on the remainder of the Steph Curry window and does that make it so you're suddenly now
08:36a top four team in the West?
08:38I don't think so, which, you know, you look at the deadline in two weeks.
08:42That's why I think that any trade for a really big name or a big star becomes really cost
08:49preventative for the same reason.