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00:00I can't stand to see greatness right before my eyes.
00:08Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
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00:24Dibley, present. Willard, present.
00:28What's up gents?
00:29What's up gents?
00:30Introduce yourself right on, right on.
00:31Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32What's going on?
00:33Well, Dibs, Willard's got a birthday coming up.
00:35We'll get to that.
00:36Yeah, he does.
00:37But Dibs, I gotta run this by you.
00:38Run it.
00:39So, there's been four variations of the Stiney-Guru show.
00:41Bonte, Stiney and Guru.
00:43Dibs, Stiney and Guru.
00:44But the fact we still remain, it's been seven years.
00:47I'm trying to prop my partner up and tell him we're the longest running show at the station.
00:51Does that still count if we had a third and things change, but the two still remain?
00:57Yes.
00:58Yeah, count the bucket.
00:59Yes, it does.
01:00It does because, I mean, it's the longest running and the word is contiguous.
01:06Much like the contiguous United States is only 48 states.
01:09Hawaii and Alaska are not connected, so they are not contiguous.
01:14But the fact that the two of you have been together, and yes, you had appendages.
01:20You had Bonte, and he shook free.
01:22Yeah.
01:23And you had me, and I got rescued by the deep-voiced.
01:27Well, welcome.
01:28The silver fox, and thank God.
01:30What if we change the word, though?
01:32Because I think you're diminishing yourself.
01:35Oh.
01:36Like it's the longest running partnership, but it's not the longest running show because it's a different show.
01:43Right, right.
01:44You were on it.
01:46Bonte was on it.
01:48Those were different shows, no?
01:50Right, but if you want to talk about the longest running host.
01:55Partnership.
01:56Well, that's what I would use.
01:57Because it started with just us two.
01:59I would use that.
02:00It started with just us two.
02:01That's just my two cents.
02:02Yeah.
02:03I'd use the word partnership.
02:04What I remember most fondly, though, is my run at Comcast with Ray Rattat.
02:07Ray Rattat.
02:08We had an excellent run there.
02:11Ray double, my man.
02:13I overlapped with Mayoko, too, for about five years.
02:16Those were really, those are what I remember.
02:19Boy, those were the salad days.
02:21This station has been on the air for 13 years.
02:23It'll be 14 in August.
02:25It'll be 14 in August.
02:26I was the first ever hire.
02:28I might have been the first ever firing.
02:32No, no, you got fired before me.
02:34Yes, I did.
02:35Yeah, I apologize.
02:36But you lead the station in firings, don't you?
02:38I'm tied for the lead of one.
02:39Okay.
02:40The lead!
02:41Next time I get the Ziggy, shout out Dick Vitale, I will take the lead.
02:45But I'm thinking about, like, of all the shows I've done,
02:49the show that I can't think of the best show I've ever done,
02:53but I can think of the worst show I've ever done.
02:55Oh, I know the worst.
02:57It's the one that you just referenced, and it was Mix and Match Monday.
03:01Which, you know, we threw all the names in a hat,
03:05and we came up with Steini, Idaho, and Dibley.
03:08Oh, man.
03:09Oh, was this the Idaho show?
03:10Yeah.
03:11And they had Michael Irvin on.
03:12It's got no sense of humor.
03:14Steini had one of the worst.
03:15None.
03:16It didn't sound like a racist joke, but I could get how Michael was like,
03:19what type of humor is that?
03:22It didn't go over well.
03:24You ever been to Idaho, Michael?
03:25I was in the car like, ah!
03:27I was in the studio like, ah!
03:30Yeah, but anyway.
03:32Idaho is different.
03:34Also, you know, the best part of that show.
03:37Pocatello Ray?
03:38Yeah.
03:39Coeur d'Alene Ray?
03:40Listen, you got to have the four.
03:42I always look for silver linings, and while that show was awful,
03:47the worst show of all time,
03:49the silver lining I take out of it was,
03:51I really found out who our boss was that day.
03:55Oh, yeah?
03:56Why do you say that?
03:57Because it was his idea, okay?
04:02And I took the blame.
04:04Oh, you took the blame.
04:05He never said a word to Ratto.
04:07He never said a word to Dibley.
04:09False.
04:10Fact.
04:11Oh, man.
04:12But because I had a host, even though he knew I wasn't a real host.
04:17Well, you are now.
04:18Well, it is.
04:19Come on, man.
04:20You are a different kind of lead host.
04:21Yeah, no doubt.
04:22And if you want to, like, fully ----
04:23I really had them prepared.
04:25I had that threesome prepared, but they just didn't execute.
04:28You may as well have said that.
04:29Yeah, if you want to unearth the corpse of that day,
04:33not only did he talk to me, but he talked to me mid-show.
04:38Oh, wow.
04:39We were halfway through the Hindenburg,
04:42and he pulled me into his office, the old building, the old corner,
04:46and basically said, fix it.
04:49And I said, ah.
04:51Wow.
04:52This was not fixable, coach.
04:54It's like guru's old caddy.
04:56Sometimes you've got to call the scrappy on, and you've got to scrap that baby.
05:00Okay.
05:01Anyhow, good to see you guys on a wonderful Thursday.
05:04You're right.
05:05You know what, Dibs?
05:06You're right.
05:07That actually makes more sense because, yeah, that makes sense.
05:11Total hands-off Ratto.
05:13That's probably the way.
05:15I'm pretty sure that is the way it went.
05:16Right.
05:17Yeah.
05:18No, I'm serious.
05:19No, for sure.
05:20Oh, yeah?
05:21For sure.
05:22Could have been his fault.
05:23He had nothing to do with it.
05:24Much like with our children, and we all can pretend,
05:26and we all have three children.
05:27That's amazing.
05:28Twelve.
05:29We can all pretend that, oh, I love them all equally.
05:33It's kind of like with radio shows.
05:35There are shows that you love more than other shows, and it's okay.
05:39And that show would have been put up for adoption.
05:42That show would have been left at the firehouse in a little bassinet.
05:47Anyway, enough about that, Lopez.
05:49Am I the only one in a bad loss, up 18, another squandered lead?
05:53And I mean this, Will, as you look at me.
05:55I like what I saw from Quentin Post.
05:57I'm not telling you he's Shaquille O'Neal,
05:59but seeing a warrior, seven-foot, alter some shots, stretch five,
06:05like just inject that in my veins.
06:08I'm seriously excited about tonight.
06:10Like he should play again, you know, get some minutes tonight.
06:13Let's go.
06:14Yeah, but my eyes will be on the other stretch five.
06:16Voot.
06:17Yeah.
06:18Like Quentin Post made me want Nikola Vucevic even more
06:21because Quentin Post is a second-round rookie,
06:23and therefore the skill set that he brings is kind of the way I look at it.
06:28Not so much Quentin Post himself.
06:30Could he be a player someday?
06:32Do you want to obviously, you know, have him learn and get chances?
06:38All of those things are true.
06:39I would argue the presence of Nikola Vucevic would be good for him.
06:43I would like Quentin Post to have a mentor.
06:47I would like Quentin Post to be the person who spells Nikola Vucevic
06:52this year and next year with the Golden State Warriors
06:55in the hopes that he's ready to be Nikola Vucevic in 2027.
07:00I would love for that.
07:02That was my take on the beginning of the Quentin Post era.
07:06I think you play them together, and then you pick up one,
07:09if not both, of the Lopez's, and you just go all bigs.
07:13You tell the Warrior fan base, oh, you want a center?
07:16We got five centers.
07:18We got five centers now.
07:20You play Kavon at the point, and you got TJD,
07:23and you got Quentin and the Vuce and one of the various Lopez's.
07:28Heck, maybe you get both of the Collins twins too.
07:31Get all bigs all the time.
07:32But it was weird seeing it big.
07:34It was kind of fun.
07:35It was fun.
07:36I loved it.
07:37What he brings to the table is clearly something that would benefit the Warriors.
07:43And 98% of the other NBA teams have a guy that can do that.
07:47It would space the floor.
07:49It is another shooting option.
07:51They still don't have enough, clearly.
07:54He needs to change his name, though, to Quentin Wing
07:58because he doesn't play in the Post.
08:00I did think about that last night too.
08:02Or Quentin Arc or whatever you want to call him.
08:05Quentin Stretch, I don't know, something.
08:07He's not going to be in the Post very much.
08:09No.
08:10I mean, honestly, guys, if you look at that game and the blown lead fine,
08:15and you've got Guy and Lindy and Quentin, and they're all getting run,
08:21I mean, what are we even talking about here?
08:23Like, yes, I don't even know if you blew the lead.
08:27Sacramento is better than you, and Sacramento came back.
08:31In the third quarter.
08:33You had some good points earlier, Stiney, about the defense
08:36and the fact that they scored six unanswered, not six unanswered,
08:39but six straight points from the foul line because you kept fouling people.
08:4330-32 on the night.
08:45Right, and so even though you had the lead and you missed layups,
08:48which is what you do, and you missed threes, which is what you do,
08:52and then you just kept fouling them, and, you know, two for De'Aaron
08:56and two for Damas and two for Monk.
09:00But when you needed a bucket, Steph was on lock and you had no,
09:03Wiggins was trying to, that's what I was like, and you said,
09:07Vucevic, what about Levine?
09:09And I know that's a pipe dream.
09:11We're going to start our show with that idea because you needed a bucket
09:14and Steph Curry chose to try to get a bucket from Elk Grove?
09:19Yeah, I was 34 feet.
09:21You're a sack.
09:23For me, literally a turning point, and I texted the guys during the timeout
09:29that came right after that.
09:31Steph Curry, for me that was a moment, and I think it was a moment for him.
09:36Does everybody remember what the score was when this happened?
09:39They're down two.
09:41Yeah, I'm with you.
09:4290 seconds left in the game.
09:43Yes.
09:44And Tom Tolbert called it a desperation shot.
09:46That is not a desperation moment.
09:48That was a frustration shot.
09:50Steph Curry crossed half court and realized two things.
09:54One, I am exhausted and I cannot shake the eight people
09:59who are defending me right now.
10:00Shout out Keyon.
10:01And if I go through the offensive process with this team,
10:05it is not going to lead to what I want it to lead to.
10:09So I am settling.
10:12I am mathematically deciding that me from 30.
10:1734.
10:1834 is the best thing that we can do down by two on the road
10:24with 90 seconds to go.
10:26That is an emotional admission by a star player in that moment.
10:31That said everything to me about Warrior basketball right now.
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10:44I agree.
10:45That was big.
10:46In fact, I took it a step further and thought,
10:49even if he makes it, it's not a dagger.
10:53No.
10:54You're up by one.
10:55If he makes it, then they score.
10:58Then are you going to do it again?
11:01Now I'm going to shoot from the other side of the court.
11:03In a way, the good thing was he did miss it.
11:05Then they went and scored.
11:06So you were two scores down from that moment.
11:09That was it.
11:11I like what I said, and it got Mark Grandy very, very upset.
11:16Mark angry.
11:18I used the phrase, give up.
11:20I go, Steph gave up.
11:22Oh, boy.
11:23They got very mad because you can't say things like that about Steph Curry
11:27because then your phone starts to go sideways.
11:30I'm going into Lou Ferrigno while you keep talking.
11:32It wasn't a give up.
11:33No, but what did I mean by that?
11:35What did he give up on?
11:36He didn't give up on the game.
11:38He gave up on the idea of running the offense
11:42and having it lead to a good shot.
11:44So he's telling you what he thinks.
11:46He gave up on the idea that his teammates can help him.
11:49So he fired from 34 down by two with a minute and a half to go on the road
11:54of a game you led the whole way.
11:56That's wild to me.
11:57That's good luck.
11:59Almost went in.
12:00Honestly.
12:01It actually did.
12:02It almost went in.
12:03Yeah, it's Steph Curry.
12:04He's a good shooter.
12:05If you're Steph and you're thinking about what has already happened,
12:08which is you've seen a couple of missed layups.
12:10You've seen Andrew with a step back post up from 14 miss.
12:15You've seen Buddy miss.
12:17You've seen Schroeder miss.
12:19TJD.
12:20You've seen TJD miss a bunny.
12:22You also had a few possessions where you couldn't even get the shot off.
12:25People just fumbling the ball.
12:27Including Steph.
12:28Steph had a couple in the fourth quarter.
12:30Some bad passes.
12:31Andrew Wiggins got butterfingers.
12:33He went to the rack.
12:34And they took it from him.
12:35I thought he got fouled on that drive where he missed the layup,
12:38but he still should have made the layup even if the foul.
12:41Like he should have made it.
12:42Yeah.
12:43And I think that's why Steph looked around and he's like,
12:45all right, screw it, man.
12:48You know, and like for everybody who talks about the missed shots,
12:53like so Moody drives with his right hand
12:56and he's got to put one high off the glass.
12:58It's not his game.
13:00No.
13:01Missed it.
13:02And they made Wiggins go left.
13:03And he's got to make a left-handed layup.
13:05Oh, man.
13:06On the move.
13:07Like they're not great finishers.
13:11No doubt, man.
13:12I mean, it hurt.
13:13You're right.
13:14I don't think that's something like Steph has a knack for being able to finish
13:19and he's had it over the course of his career.
13:22Two points in the second half.
13:23I don't know if you get that.
13:25I just don't know if you get that, that kind of finishing.
13:28And who's that on, Stony?
13:30Again, I know I sound like a broken record.
13:32It's on Moody.
13:34And that's on Wiggins.
13:36But you got too many guys that can't do that, what we're talking about.
13:39It's too late for Andrew Wiggins to work on his left hand.
13:42No, I'm just talking about having finishers and scoring.
13:44They don't have a fast break point.
13:46What's that signal to you, Willard?
13:48I mean.
13:4928 to nothing, Dibbs.
13:50That means where's the Bengay?
13:52Nobody's running or athletic.
13:55Yeah, I don't think it's a signal of anything anymore.
13:58It's what we all know.
13:59Oh, man.
14:00When they take the court, the other team's more athletic every time.
14:03They're younger and they're more athletic every time.
14:05Oh, my gosh.
14:06I said this for a while on our show yesterday.
14:08I'll bring it up again.
14:10Steve Kerr said something this week that should have been the biggest alarm
14:14that's ever happened in the history of this era.
14:17I said this, Goo.
14:18You probably don't remember.
14:19Okay, let's see.
14:20He'll remind you.
14:21When a head coach says to the fan base,
14:25we don't do layups and free throws.
14:29I'm laughing, but I'm not.
14:30Then you lose.
14:32Every time.
14:33It's a miracle they've won half their games.
14:36If you're telling me the other team, they get to do layups and free throws
14:41and you don't, and last night was absolutely that.
14:4532 to 13.
14:46They get layups and free throws and you don't.
14:49It's a miracle you were even in the game.
14:52It just means that you have to be blazing hot from three
14:55or you can't compete.
14:57Tell me I'm wrong.
14:58Is that not what we see?
14:59They're blazing hot from three?
15:01Get yourself a 15-point lead.
15:03But you all damn well knew they were going to lose the game.
15:06I knew they were going to lose the game at halftime, didn't you?
15:09Did you not feel like they were going to lose the game?
15:12No, I didn't.
15:13You didn't?
15:14No, I thought that it was going to be close,
15:16and then it got close and Sacramento comes all the way back,
15:19and then the Warriors built it up again to like four or five,
15:22and you thought, okay, this might be one that they survive.
15:26Maybe, but there's no—
15:27I never thought that they were going to go from 17 to up 30.
15:30Well, Sac went up six and then they erased that.
15:32I'm like, here we go.
15:33I guess my point is, is normally and formerly, if I'm sitting there with—
15:38what was halftime, 17?
15:40Yeah.
15:41Okay, you're sitting there with a halftime lead at 17.
15:43I'm thinking not over, but highly probable the Golden State Warriors
15:49are winning that game.
15:50I did not feel that way at halftime last night.
15:5365-48.
15:54Up 17, and I'm like, maybe they hang on.
15:57Well, let me ask you this.
15:58How did you feel against the T-Wolves ten days ago?
16:00Same.
16:01When they were down five?
16:02You were shocked they hung on.
16:03Not shocked, but I'm like—
16:05I'm with you.
16:06If you're up 17 at half, that means to me the likelihood is they got a chance.
16:12They've got a chance.
16:13It's going to get tight.
16:15Every single time, the Suns sit down.
16:18They'll take it, right, because I send you to the showers in the third quarter.
16:22This is our process.
16:23Dude, right, if you want to see the end of this game, you've got to go shower now
16:27because we're not—that's too late.
16:29So he goes to shower in the third quarter, and he'll come up every time
16:32and be like, they lost the lead?
16:34And I'm like, yes, Sam.
16:36They're going to lose the lead.
16:37That's the way—you can't shoot from three like that for four quarters.
16:42And that's all they can do.
16:45And when they don't do it, then you get lost.
16:47And Sac had like four guys, Dibbs, that could drive, penetrate,
16:50get to the free throw line.
16:51And the Warriors got one, one and a half.
16:53Yeah, without Kaminga, certainly.
16:56And that's where we talk about, oh, you miss Kaminga, and how do you miss Kaminga?
17:00Oh, you do.
17:01That's where you miss him, where he gets to the foul line,
17:04and I know that he's not making as many free throws as we would like.
17:07His percentage is down from last year, but he at least can get you there.
17:11And beyond that, you've got Wiggins, who had a nice game,
17:15which tells you that tonight he's going to have a bad game.
17:18Go ahead and get your underdog fantasy ready for the fewer than,
17:23because, you know, that's what Wiggins does.
17:2533 and then 11.
17:27What do you think his number is?
17:28For points? Probably 16 and a half.
17:30It was 15 and a half last night, which I thought was a bunny.
17:33I didn't laugh. Like four in a row on him.
17:35Really? By going higher?
17:38He went on his bender of scoring 20 points four straight games
17:41that I was with him before that.
17:43Kings games, pro tip, Kings games play the higher numbers.
17:48And I did, and almost every player went higher.
17:51Maybe not Steph.
17:53Here, I'll scroll. You guys talk.
17:55I'll find what Andrew's number is.
17:56Warriors are up 65-48, and according to ESPN, 92% win probability.
18:03And yet, in this room, we're all thinking 65-48.
18:07It's a 50-50 ball game, you know?
18:09But that's just the stats of it, the math.
18:12The eye test tells you differently, obviously.
18:15Yep.
18:16The one thing that, to me, crystallized last night was,
18:21and you've been talking about it, and I've been thinking about it,
18:25but I don't know exactly how to say it,
18:27but now I feel like I've finally figured it out.
18:31The Warriors, to me, what they need specifically is a number one score.
18:36Like a scorer.
18:39And the player doesn't have to be as good of a player as Steph Curry,
18:43and he probably won't be,
18:45but Steph cannot be the highest scoring player on this team anymore
18:50because there's going to be too many nights where he struggles to score,
18:55and you can't have your top score fluctuate that much.
19:00Yeah.
19:01So, of all the guys that I've heard, and I don't want any of them,
19:06and I wouldn't give up picks for any of them,
19:09but you want to drop Levine onto the team and not give up any future first,
19:16go ahead.
19:17That's big coming from him.
19:19He gets 24 a game, so...
19:22Willard, he's the answer.
19:25I know, but the money...
19:27But he's got two and a half more years.
19:29Yes, almost 50.
19:31But he's asking you to divorce yourself from the contract
19:34and the player and the personality.
19:36How can we?
19:37Well, just what Stiney is saying in a vacuum
19:40is they need somebody like that.
19:43I get that.
19:44Like a Jordan Pool, somebody who can come in here
19:46and just fill you up for 25 on the regular
19:49because what I've said about Steph,
19:51and it's a hard truth that nobody wants to hear about,
19:54it's an inconvenient truth, shout out Al Gore,
19:57is he can't do it every night,
20:00and tonight he may not play.
20:02We don't know for sure yet,
20:03but it's a back-to-back,
20:04and last night he was taken out of the game
20:07by the Energizer Bunny.
20:10Steph can't do it every night anymore,
20:13and when Steph can't do it, you lose.
20:15I mean, listen, I'm not in love with it either.
20:17Trust me.
20:18But there's a difference to me.
20:20And I don't like Levine,
20:22but he gets you 24 a night.
20:25Like 24 a night.
20:28And when he doesn't get you 24, he still gets you 19.
20:31And when he doesn't get you 24, he might get you 30.
20:34But, you know, you also...
20:38you can't have your leading scorer
20:41who's actually struggling to generate shots
20:45because there's so much attention on him.
20:48Like, unfortunately, one of the hindrances with Steph
20:52at this point is it's going to be harder for him
20:54to get off a shot than the other 35-year-olds
20:57like Kevin Durant, LeBron James.
20:59It's all valid, but you know what I look at?
21:01When I look at these teams they're playing,
21:03look at Boston and Sacramento.
21:05And I would argue that while they do...
21:08I mean, they all have, obviously,
21:10from Tatum and Brown to DeRozan
21:12and De'Aaron Fox and all of that,
21:15but watch the way they play.
21:17And the ball flies around the circle
21:20and seemingly finds the open man
21:23for a three-point shot, and it may be their star,
21:26and it may not be their star,
21:28and that's the way the Warriors used to play,
21:30and that's what I don't understand.
21:32I don't understand how an NBA roster,
21:34and part of this may be injury,
21:36but how can you get to the point this year
21:38where you can dedicate that amount
21:41of defensive capital to one guy
21:44and the rest of the roster can't make you pay?
21:47That's crazy.
21:48I mean, that's what's crazy.
21:50Now, in fairness, on a night like...
21:53I brought this guy up today
21:54because I think he's been pretty lousy.
21:57Lindy Waters, the third.
21:59I could have sworn I counted three or four plays
22:02where he's the guy.
22:04He's the end result guy that catches it,
22:06and now a guy's running at him,
22:08and he's not making anything happen.
22:10He's not making enough threes,
22:11and he doesn't have a drive game.
22:13You know, in fairness,
22:15they're missing Kuminga, Green, and Pudzemski.
22:18Those are three in their top eight,
22:20so you'd like to think on another night
22:23that ball goes to somebody else,
22:25Wiggins maybe, Kuminga maybe,
22:27maybe even Pudz,
22:28and they can actually turn it into a positive play
22:32rather than Waters,
22:35who I feel like if he's not making a three,
22:38okay, fine, I'll take a dribble in there,
22:40but nothing's really happening.
22:41He's like Foghorn Leghorn,
22:43doing a lot of chopping,
22:44but no chips are flying.
22:45That's not a bad call.
22:46Shout out 84-year-old references,
22:49but for me, the bigger issue
22:51and the target of all this is Dennis Schroeder.
22:53You brought him in,
22:54he's averaging 18 tonight with Brooklyn,
22:57and last night he was a complete non-factor,
23:01and I understand he's not comfortable with this system,
23:05but he's been here now almost 20 games,
23:07and if you look at their roster, guys,
23:09you've got Guy Santos,
23:11unproven, not a reliable score.
23:13You mentioned Lindy.
23:14TJD, not a score.
23:16Kavon, not a score.
23:17Draymond, not a score.
23:18So when you look at guys who actually can score,
23:21Stefan Wiggins, Buddy Heald,
23:23who had a pretty good game,
23:25good little stretch.
23:26He had a stretch of where he had three in a row.
23:28Nothing to start.
23:29And Dennis Schroeder.
23:30Four terrible turnovers in the third.
23:32Right, and you look at your team.
23:34Your team is not deep with scores,
23:37and look at Sacramento.
23:39You have like four guys averaging more than 20 a night,
23:42basically.
23:43And Sabonis ain't a stiff.
23:44To me, that's the word.
23:46If you look at the roster right now,
23:48especially with Kaminga not on it,
23:50Andrew Wiggins is the only player not named Steph Curry
23:54who sometimes can create a shot.
23:58And I don't even just mean for himself.
24:00But you can penetrate and kick.
24:02You can do something offensively that creates a shot.
24:07They just have a line of people that are all like,
24:10you know, I always use the reference of P.J. Tucker,
24:12somebody who's just standing in the corner
24:14waiting for an open shot to come to them.
24:16But nobody can create anything.
24:19All right, gents.
24:20We got that big Thursday meet.
24:22We'll be listening.
24:23We just had ours.
24:24It was fun.
24:25Coming off back-to-back meetings.
24:26Is he on one?
24:27No.
24:28Well, he might be with you guys.
24:29Yeah.
24:30All right.
24:31Well, have a great show on 95.7 The Game.