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- Mian Javed Latif PMLN
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, you are watching the program with me, Kashif Abbasi.
00:16Our politics is moving towards more strictness.
00:20The statements are becoming more and more strict.
00:23The positions are becoming more and more strict.
00:26They have given it many times before.
00:28I want you to listen to it again.
00:31Then we will see where the problem is.
00:33The political filth should be cleansed from Punjab and Pakistan.
00:37This is not their treatment.
00:38Love is not worthy of being treated with love.
00:41These are dangerous people.
00:42This is a group of terrorists who should be wiped out from Pakistan.
00:46Our politics has now come to the end of the opponent by putting them in jails.
00:52Bilawal Bhutto wants to use the stick for political reasons.
00:55Maryam Nawaz Sharif wants to wipe out the opponent.
01:00Our politics has become a political personal enmity rather than a political dispute.
01:06What is the problem of today's youth?
01:08Today, the big problem of people is rights.
01:12The rights for which they are fighting.
01:15The Muslim League has come to this fight either on us or on you.
01:19Only one will remain.
01:20That is why slogans are being raised to wipe out the opponent.
01:24This is our politics today.
01:26Wipe out your opponent.
01:28This is filth.
01:30You cannot talk to them now.
01:32In today's speech, listen to what Maryam Bibi said to the youth.
01:38This is the face of Pakistan that is sitting in front of me.
01:41This face looks good sitting in universities and colleges.
01:45It doesn't look good sitting in D-Chowk, hitting stones and using sticks.
01:48Maryam Bibi, you may not understand today's politics.
01:52Today, the youth are fighting for their political rights against you.
01:57The hope for the betterment of this country has arisen due to the politics of the people of this country and especially the youth.
02:06Today's youth talk to you about politics and political rights.
02:11And in their political struggle, people like me have the courage that the future of this country and the hope in it is still remaining.
02:21The youth of this country have become political and talk about their rights.
02:25In 2017-18 and later, look at your own rallies.
02:30In these rallies, these same people came to you.
02:34These same youth were fighting for you.
02:38When you called for Pakistan to return to the airport in 2017, these same youth were with your caravans.
02:47In 2017-18, no matter how many rallies you did, whether it was in Mandi Bawudin, Sargodha, Lahore or other cities,
02:56you used to proudly say that I see the youth everywhere and they are fighting for us.
03:02When you made a deal for a deal, you saw the same youth with Imran Khan, who talk about the rule of law, principles and the rights of the ruler.
03:13Whether it is Balochistan or Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the leadership of protest has gone into the hands of the youth.
03:18I wish you had learned some lessons from the election results of 2018 and 2024.
03:24You should also learn this, I think.
03:29Maybe you don't even want to learn.
03:32What you have to learn is that people have gone far ahead of politicians in political consciousness.
03:38You are miles behind.
03:41You said today that you would like to get rid of sticks, petrol bombs, stones and books in the hands of children.
03:51But do you think children don't want this?
03:54These children also want to study and go to universities.
03:59But they also want to get the answer to the question of who will rule this country.
04:04They will make this decision themselves.
04:07They want the rulers to be those who have been elected by the people.
04:12No one should force this decision with Form 47.
04:17These children want this country to be run according to the constitution.
04:21You want to run this country with a stick.
04:24These children want us to protest for our rights.
04:28And the right to protest gives them the constitution.
04:31They want you to respect this right.
04:34You say that we will decide whether you have the right to protest or not.
04:41The young man says that for the fight for his rights, I will break all obstacles and come out.
04:46And you say that if you try to come out, then we will enter your house and scare you,
04:54we will hit you with sticks, bullets and tear gas, but we will not let you fight this fight.
04:59This young man says that I have the right to rule.
05:02I will take it away. I have become a politician.
05:05This is a fight for the future of young people.
05:09You call it terrorism when you do this.
05:12Looking at the current situation, I feel that this is a fight for new and old ideas.
05:17This country has gone through many periods of colonization.
05:21We saw in those walls that everyone looked at the same direction.
05:28The young man says that this will not happen now.
05:31Earlier, where there was power, thought and the people also went there.
05:36Now it is becoming difficult to do this.
05:39And whenever I talk to you multiple times,
05:44you have talked a lot about democracy in this country, human rights above the constitution.
05:50Did you want to fight for this?
05:52Was that fight only in the opposition?
05:55Was it to that extent as long as you are in the opposition?
05:58I feel that if justice has gone ahead and made a deal,
06:01the question is what will the people do?
06:04Will they accept it or not?
06:06I think the people will not accept it either.
06:09Perhaps some young people want to ask a few questions.
06:13Will this country continue as it is?
06:17Is there no room for political disagreement in this country?
06:21Will the seats of various political figures not be given the right to protest?
06:29The constitution gives the right to protest.
06:32How can you stop that right?
06:35When I want to protest, why do I need a container?
06:39Why is my right taken away from me?
06:41This is a young man's question.
06:43You give me a laptop, but I am so scared of my voice
06:48that I turn off the internet and install firewalls.
06:51This is the debate between today's youth and you.
06:54You must be thinking that from where we are standing,
06:57you see all the young people and all the opponents as wrong.
07:01But if you pay attention,
07:03these opponents who are against you today,
07:05yesterday they were your allies.
07:07These were the people who made your numbers in your rallies.
07:12You must remember the speeches of Mian Sahib,
07:14which started with Gujranwala.
07:16These young people put everything on the line
07:19and came to your rallies in difficult times.
07:23The ticket for justice was running because of these young people
07:27because people were with you.
07:29So this fear of the opposition is actually due to its support.
07:36But don't politicians need to understand this?
07:41The time has changed.
07:43Mian Javed Lateef Sahib is with us.
07:45Zubair Sahib is with us.
07:47Thank you very much to both the guests.
07:49Zubair Sahib, if you allow me, I would like to start with you.
07:53There is a call for protest and we see what happens in Pakistan.
07:57The opponent is not given the right to protest.
08:01What has happened to the Muslim League?
08:04Why did it come to a point where you just have to suppress it?
08:10Kashif, you have given a very good intro.
08:13I think we have discussed most of it.
08:15But why did this happen?
08:17And this is despite the fact that if you look at Pakistan's political system,
08:24they have the federal government,
08:26they have the Punjab government,
08:28they have the government of Balochistan,
08:30they have the government of Sindh,
08:32they have the political allies,
08:34they have the people's party,
08:36they have the police,
08:37they have the election commission,
08:39they have the 26th amendment,
08:41you have put the superior judiciary in your pocket,
08:44FIA, CIA, name it,
08:46they are all with you.
08:48The establishment is supporting you in full.
08:51And yet there is so much fear,
08:53and yet there is so much fear.
08:55So it is difficult to understand.
08:57You understand, Zubair Sahib,
08:59that if all of this is against you,
09:02and people are standing with you,
09:04then there is no fear.
09:06And did you see this when you used to hold rallies in 2018-17?
09:14Zubair Sahib?
09:15Absolutely.
09:16There was no fear at all.
09:18I am telling you that in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021,
09:23all the institutions that I mentioned,
09:26all the governments,
09:29they were all with the PTI.
09:31They were with our opponents.
09:34But there was no fear at any level.
09:38Were you stopped like this,
09:40by putting containers,
09:41by putting containers,
09:43by putting tear gas,
09:45how many times were you pressed
09:47that you don't want to protest?
09:52I think Javed Lateef Sahib is a witness
09:54that I think most of the rallies,
09:56most of them,
09:57if someone did it with Maryam Nawaz,
09:59then I did it.
10:00In that, all the rallies of Azad Kashmir,
10:03of Gilgit-Baltistan,
10:04of Punjab,
10:05of KP,
10:06of Balochistan,
10:07of Sindh,
10:08are you talking about containers?
10:10I am telling you,
10:11not a single police officer,
10:12not one,
10:13and this has to be noted, Kashif,
10:15not a single police officer,
10:18or rangers,
10:19or paramilitary force,
10:20has ever stopped you
10:21from going to this place.
10:24Not even once.
10:26And I ask the same question,
10:28there has to be confrontation,
10:30suppose we were going to Islamabad,
10:32for a rally,
10:33on 18th January 2021,
10:37we started the rally from Pindi,
10:39and we came from Pindi,
10:41and we had to go to the right
10:43from Serena Chowk,
10:44and go to Constitution Avenue.
10:46I ask a question,
10:47suppose we were stopped there,
10:49there would have been containers,
10:51there would have been police pressure,
10:53so what does Maryam Nawaz say?
10:55Let's go back,
10:56because they don't let us go.
10:57It is obvious,
10:58she tells her workers,
10:59she tells all of us,
11:00move forward,
11:01and break these barriers.
11:03She says 100%.
11:05So when you put up these containers,
11:08you add to the hatred,
11:10you call the Sindh police,
11:12so what do you expect?
11:13That there will be protest all over Pakistan?
11:15If you allow me,
11:17I will ask this question to Javed Latif.
11:19Mr. Mian,
11:20is this a thought?
11:21Or where did this thought come from?
11:23I had heard a democratic thought,
11:25whenever I spoke to you,
11:27to the BB,
11:29that there will be a constitution,
11:31there will be a rule of law,
11:33how did it come to this?
11:35No, we will finish it,
11:36we will not let it go,
11:37we will fire bullets,
11:38tear gas will be fired,
11:39containers will be put up,
11:40we will not allow anyone to protest.
11:42We have made this decision.
11:44How did this thought come to this, Mr. Mian?
11:49Thank you, Kashif Abbasi.
11:51Actually,
11:52you have started your conversation
11:55in such a way
11:56that you have touched upon many issues.
11:58Where should we start from
12:00and where will it end?
12:02But I will start from the question
12:04that you are asking.
12:06The thing is,
12:07what you are saying,
12:09that BB Sahiba,
12:11Maryam BB used to attend
12:13the Jalsa.
12:15My brother,
12:16Zubair Umar,
12:17said that
12:18at that time,
12:19there was no single constable.
12:22I think,
12:23this is not appropriate.
12:25The reason for this is that
12:27when Mr. Imran Khan used to lead
12:30in the government of 18 months,
12:33or those who used to attend Jalsa
12:35since 2013,
12:37they also used to attend Jalsa
12:39in the same way
12:40and they used to reach
12:41while removing the curtains.
12:43Similarly,
12:44when Maryam Nawaz Sharif used to attend Jalsa,
12:47there were containers in front of her house
12:50but she used to remove the curtains
12:52and used to reach her house,
12:54Mandi Bahauddin,
12:55or other cities.
12:57Now the question is,
12:59neither Imran is leading,
13:01and where he is leading,
13:03those who are attending
13:05the Jalsa in Gandapur,
13:07you can see that
13:09they remove the curtains
13:11and reach.
13:12If no one leaves in Punjab,
13:14then of course,
13:15you will see the curtains in the same way.
13:17Now without going into this detail,
13:19Sir, but you don't let anyone leave in Punjab.
13:21You have made this decision.
13:23You have been doing this for two years.
13:25At that time,
13:26when Imran Khan said Long March,
13:28in May 2022,
13:29you started breaking into people's houses.
13:32You are not letting them leave.
13:34Then you say they don't leave.
13:36One second.
13:38I will not disagree with you on anything,
13:43but listen to me.
13:45I am saying this responsibly.
13:48In Punjab,
13:51I used to arrange the Jalsa Jalus
13:57and the rallies.
14:01I used to arrange it myself.
14:04The team was there.
14:06I am saying this responsibly.
14:08It was difficult for us to leave our homes.
14:12We used to leave two, four, five, ten days before
14:15and then we used to arrange Jalsa Jalus.
14:17This is a fact.
14:19But the real question you have asked,
14:22is this thought,
14:24if a person is in opposition,
14:26then he is the protector of the law.
14:30And when he comes to power,
14:32then that thought becomes a container.
14:35I am saying that
14:37the machinery that arranges is the same.
14:41You come to power or someone else comes to power.
14:45I will say this,
14:47if you allow me to say this,
14:52the real issue of Pakistan is this,
14:55which you yourself said,
14:57that when you used to do the Zimni elections
15:01of Sialkot,
15:03Duscah,
15:05or other Zimni elections,
15:07and you used to fight,
15:09then this youth used to come to you.
15:12Kashif Abbasi,
15:14there is a fact,
15:16which I am saying with a sad heart,
15:19that from the state institutions of Pakistan,
15:23the trust of the youth has risen.
15:26The policies of the people sitting there,
15:30are upset with that.
15:32A lot of issues,
15:34only political issues,
15:37a lot of issues,
15:39only political issues,
15:41the youth did not come out to do politics.
15:45The youth are looking for employment.
15:49The youth are concerned about education,
15:52health,
15:53the youth are concerned about the economy.
15:56This is a concern.
15:58Sir, but you have brought the economy
16:00to the forefront.
16:02The problem is,
16:04you have brought the economy to the forefront,
16:08but people,
16:10Mr. Zubair,
16:12people do not listen to the government.
16:15Should we listen to it or not?
16:17One second.
16:18I am coming back to this question.
16:20I am coming back to this question.
16:22People are not listening.
16:24Whatever you want to say to them,
16:27people do not listen.
16:29Why?
16:31There is a credibility gap, Mr. Zubair.
16:33First of all,
16:35Kashif,
16:37I disagree with Mr. Mian.
16:39If there is a definition of a police state,
16:42then it is Pakistan.
16:44By the way,
16:46according to the world's democracy index,
16:49Pakistan is now called an authoritarian state.
16:52No one doubts this.
16:54I did not mention those things,
16:56the attacks on social media,
16:58the way they are trying to stop it.
17:00There is only one reason for this.
17:02The narrative of the state does not run on social media.
17:05It is on PTV.
17:07They make their statements on normal television channels.
17:12But it is not on social media.
17:14That is why they do all this to stop Qatar.
17:17You said that young people do not listen.
17:21Young people have a very simple thing.
17:24If you tell them that
17:26the part of the speech of Maryam Nawaz
17:28that she has books in her hands,
17:30it is absolutely true.
17:32He used to study at Aligarh University,
17:34but he kept the books aside
17:36and fought for Pakistan.
17:38If he had not fought,
17:40Pakistan would not have been formed.
17:42If he had not fought against Ayub Khan,
17:44Ayub Khan or that system would have continued.
17:46When Zia-ul-Haq came,
17:48he would have kept the books aside and left.
17:50So they should appreciate.
17:52The problem is that
17:54like Ahmed Faiz,
17:56Ahmed Faraz,
17:58they used to write poems
18:00for the freedom of people.
18:02They used to keep them inside.
18:04Today, everyone owns them.
18:06They read their poems.
18:08Sir, the problem is that
18:10we like young people on the streets
18:12when they are coming for us.
18:14Absolutely.
18:16To remind you,
18:18you mentioned the Gujranwala Jalsa.
18:20Who stopped whom?
18:22When?
18:24I used to go to Gujranwala every day.
18:26Not just that day.
18:28I used to go before that too.
18:30I used to go with Maryam Nawaz.
18:32We did not see her.
18:34The famous Lahore Jalsa
18:36which was dubbed by Maryam Nawaz
18:38on 13th December 2020.
18:40Either we will take over the government
18:42or we will take over ourselves.
18:44Three days before that,
18:46she used to take out rallies every day.
18:48No one used to catch her.
18:50If you have so much fear,
18:52it is only because of one reason.
18:54Kashif, when you know
18:56that your people do not support you,
18:58that is the only reason.
19:00That is the biggest reason.
19:02Before taking a break,
19:04I would like to say
19:06that you were also
19:08raising slogans of Arya Park.
19:10You must remember
19:12that you had to go to the airport
19:14and bring Mr. Mian out of the airport
19:16even though the state wanted to arrest him.
19:18This was the policy.
19:20Do you know this?
19:22I went to the airport and asked
19:24where Shahbaz was.
19:26I know that Mr. Mian Nawaz
19:28was very angry
19:30that someone made a deal
19:32and you asked those people
19:34who were roaming on the streets
19:36how angry the young man was
19:38when he did not go to the airport.
19:40Why do you think
19:42that this should not have happened?
19:44Kashif,
19:46I would like to
19:48clarify
19:50that my brother
19:52used to go to Gujranwala
19:54and Delhi.
19:56But on the day
19:58of Jalsa,
20:00all the roads
20:02were closed
20:04and containers were placed
20:06all around the stadium.
20:08That container
20:10was removed by me
20:12and Atta Tarar
20:14to make way.
20:16Now let us come to
20:18what you are saying.
20:20So you also used to remove containers
20:22with people?
20:24One second.
20:26Today you have made it a crime.
20:28One second.
20:30The second thing
20:32you said about the airport
20:34when Mr. Nawaz
20:36came from outside
20:38and asked,
20:40I was saying
20:42that if we were allowed
20:44to go to the airport
20:46and if we had decided
20:48to go to the airport,
20:50there would not have been
20:52so many obstacles
20:54like the crowd,
20:56the charge crowd
20:58and the way Mr. Nawaz
21:00was going to pick up the young man.
21:02If we had reached
21:04and there was an election,
21:06we would have had the possibility
21:08to go to the airport.
21:10You had decided
21:12to go to the airport.
21:14If you allow me to say,
21:16I was answering your question
21:18that the decision
21:20to go there,
21:22the decision to stop it,
21:24which was made
21:26by the Jamaat,
21:28was a wrong decision
21:30and its effects are still present
21:32on our workers
21:34and on the emotions of our people.
21:36Today's Prime Minister
21:38did it.
21:40He is saying
21:42that the decision
21:44to go to the airport
21:46was a wrong decision.
21:48The decision to go to the airport
21:50was made by Mr. Nawaz
21:52and the decision
21:54not to go to the airport
21:56was made by Mr. Shabaz.
22:02If we had gone to the airport
22:04according to Mr. Nawaz's decision,
22:06the elections
22:08that were held in 2018
22:10would have been won
22:12by two thirds of the population
22:14and the people
22:16who had been punished
22:18in a wrong way
22:20would have thought
22:22that it was a wrong decision
22:24and the people
22:26who were punished
22:28were wrong.
22:30Let's take a break.
22:32Where do you want to go next?
22:34Do you want to run this country like this?
22:36Let's talk about this after a break.
22:38Mr. Shabaz,
22:40where do you want to go next?
22:42Do you want to run this country
22:44like this?
22:46Where are the revolutionary
22:48things that we used to hear?
22:50We used to believe in these things.
22:52Mr. Mian used to give speeches.
22:54But where are we now?
22:56If there is a protest here,
22:58they first close the country
23:00with a container.
23:02Then there is tear gas.
23:04Then there is firing.
23:06The internet is shut down.
23:08Firewalls are set up.
23:10And now the legislation has started.
23:12Fake news within five years.
23:14And the definition of fake news
23:16that we will do
23:18will be that if you give wrong news
23:20then you are false news.
23:22The definition of fake news
23:24has already been made.
23:26Fake news is not that
23:28if I say that this happened
23:30and the news was actually wrong.
23:32This happens in the world.
23:34So we should shut down
23:36politics.
23:38Is this how you see it, Mr. Zubair?
23:44Unfortunately,
23:46Pakistan has reached
23:48this stage.
23:50The problem is that
23:52the Muslim League,
23:54People's Party,
23:56and MKM,
23:58have to rule.
24:00They have a common cause.
24:02They have a common enemy status.
24:04That is PTI.
24:06I do not support
24:08what PTI did in their time.
24:10If PTI gets a chance again,
24:12it is a genuine question
24:14of what they have learned
24:16from their government.
24:18Will they put people in jail again?
24:20Will they take their revenge again?
24:26This is a genuine question.
24:28We will get an answer to this
24:30in the future.
24:32But to
24:34take the country
24:36forward,
24:38on this basis,
24:40if you say that
24:42Imran Khan was doing fascism,
24:44and to end it,
24:46you need to go three times
24:48or ten times
24:50and become more fascist
24:52so that for all times to come,
24:54you end it.
24:56PTI is the most popular
24:58political party.
25:00When you say that they end
25:02the terrorists,
25:04who are the terrorists?
25:06They represent the middle class
25:08in Punjab.
25:10They represent the Muhajirs.
25:12They represent the Bakhtoons.
25:14They represent the
25:16most liberal modern crowd
25:18of Pakistan.
25:20They represent the people
25:22in the lowest strata.
25:24Will you end everyone?
25:26I am saying that
25:28there is some doubt
25:30that they represent all
25:32segments of the society.
25:34How will you end them?
25:36There is only one way.
25:38Either you come up with
25:40an economic formula
25:42so that Pakistan doesn't
25:44get flooded with milk
25:46and everyone forgets
25:48PTI and starts looking
25:50towards PMLN.
25:52If that happens,
25:54there is no doubt
25:56that Pakistan will
25:58develop economically.
26:00But what was the outcome?
26:02It was a disaster.
26:04Pakistan broke down.
26:06The same Ayub Khan
26:08who was developing
26:10economically.
26:12Till the time you don't
26:14give the fundamental
26:16rights on which Pakistan
26:18was established,
26:20Pakistan will never
26:22learn from Ayub Khan
26:24that people have changed.
26:26They are not the same
26:28people who will vote for
26:30the Kaaf League or
26:32oppose it.
26:34They will say that
26:36we should also vote for
26:38the same party.
26:40It is not like that.
26:42Javed Lateef,
26:44let's not talk about
26:46fundamental politics.
26:48The Judicial Commission
26:50has two claims.
26:52What do you think?
27:20People think that
27:22because of their policies,
27:24we are stuck in this mess.
27:26Secondly...
27:28Sir, if you give me a second,
27:30let me stop this argument.
27:32I want to make you hear
27:34Faisal Wada's voice.
27:36He says that the system
27:38has to divorce the Noon League.
27:40He thinks that those
27:42who are unpopular are
27:44unpopular because of you.
27:46He tried to play smartly
27:48with the state versus PTI.
27:50The army and PTI are standing
27:52in front of each other.
27:54The government wants to fight.
27:56You need two things to
27:58resolve the issue of Pakistan.
28:00You need to divorce the Noon League
28:02and Imran Khan.
28:04Sir, Faisal Wada is saying
28:06that the system has to
28:08divorce the Noon League.
28:10Because of you,
28:12all this is happening.
28:14Listen to me.
28:16If all this was happening
28:18because of us,
28:20then the government that
28:22we had created
28:24would not have been
28:26unacceptable.
28:28Let me finish.
28:30I don't think you need
28:32to ask me this question again.
28:34I want to know
28:36how Imran Khan
28:38brought this issue.
28:40Tell me
28:42that in Pakistan,
28:44in the last 20 years,
28:46there have been protests
28:48against Amriyat and
28:50civilian set-up.
28:52Has anyone ever
28:54made such a protest?
28:56If Imran Khan
28:58had not brought this issue
29:00on 9th or 10th of May,
29:02I can tell you
29:04that the establishment
29:06policy had changed.
29:08They had become so weak
29:10that they could not
29:12believe in Amriyat.
29:14They were helpless.
29:16But because of
29:18what happened
29:20on 9th or 10th of May,
29:22they had to
29:24fight back.
29:26Sir,
29:28let me finish.
29:30If 9th or 10th of May
29:32is the day
29:34for punishment,
29:36let me finish.
29:38Let me finish.
29:40Let me finish.
29:42Let me finish.
29:44Let me finish.
29:46Let me finish.
29:48Let me finish.
29:50Let me finish.
29:52I am neither
29:54talking to you
29:56nor
29:58am I talking
30:00to myself.
30:02I am trying
30:04to talk about
30:06the current situation.
30:08Mr. Abbasi,
30:10you can take
30:12the answer of a sad Pakistani.
30:14I say that
30:16had it not been for 9th or 10th of May,
30:18my brother,
30:20I am not blaming you.
30:22I am not saying that you should
30:24keep beating on 9th or 10th of May.
30:26I say that because of that
30:28or under its umbrella,
30:30the use of force has started again.
30:32What is happening now?
30:34Tell me that
30:36may Allah give you a healthy life.
30:38A time will come when everyone will know.
30:40Be it Nawaz Sharif,
30:42Imran Khan,
30:44Zardari,
30:46Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
30:48Achakzai,
30:50tell me whether
30:52there will be a change in leadership after them or not.
30:54Sir, listen to me.
30:56We have finished the nursery.
30:58Listen to me, sir.
31:00Look at the leadership.
31:02Because what is leadership?
31:04Leadership does not make you weak.
31:06Leadership does not lead you on the wrong path.
31:08Leadership does not say that
31:10I will finish my opponent.
31:12It does not say that
31:14there will be no action in this country.
31:16It does not say that
31:18even if I lose the election,
31:20I will go to this abode and
31:22raise the flag of Form 47.
31:24These are not leaderships, sir.
31:26You should also be careful
31:28when you say leadership.
31:30But your second argument.
31:32One second, please.
31:34Take Mr. Zubair's answer
31:36and then give your final answer.
31:38First take my answer
31:40and then Mr. Javed Latif can continue.
31:42He says with confidence
31:44that if there was no 9th December,
31:46which was very bad,
31:48there would not have been so much violence.
31:50But if you give me the answer
31:52of only three things.
31:54First, when more than 100 members
31:56of PTI resigned,
31:58you gave more than 100 seats
32:00to the National Assembly.
32:02This was a constitutional violation
32:04for 16 months.
32:06And it was a very serious
32:08constitutional violation.
32:10Because you were afraid that
32:12Imran Khan had won
32:14if you had done it in 10 rounds.
32:16Secondly, if you had to get
32:18the election of the Punjab
32:20Assembly under the constitution
32:22before 9th May,
32:24you stopped it.
32:26You stopped the mandate
32:28of the Punjab Assembly
32:30in the middle of April.
32:32Because Imran Khan
32:34had broken the assembly
32:36in the middle of January.
32:38You accepted the dissolution
32:40of the assembly.
32:42You appointed your governor.
32:44You appointed Mohsin Naqvi
32:46as the Chief Minister.
32:48You accepted the dissolution.
32:50You did not even
32:52challenge a single member
32:54in the Lahore High Court.
32:56You did not even hold an election.
32:58You passed a resolution
33:00that 23 million rupees
33:02cannot be released.
33:04But I want to say something
33:06about 9th May.
33:08Mr. Mian is absolutely right.
33:10Such incidents cannot happen
33:12in countries without punishment.
33:14These things are acceptable.
33:16Entering someone's house,
33:18entering a building,
33:20breaking things,
33:22is not acceptable.
33:24You can go ahead,
33:26file a case,
33:28and go ahead.
33:30It is not possible
33:32to stop everything
33:34because of 9th May.
33:36You entered the Supreme Court.
33:38You should not be allowed to do politics.
33:40You should not be allowed
33:42to enter the Supreme Court again.
33:44Those who did it,
33:46were punished.
33:48Countries do not stop.
33:50Politics cannot be stopped.
33:52Go ahead, Mr. Mian.
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