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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum viewers, you are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi.
00:03Today was a good day for the Parliament.
00:05You must have heard this from a lot of people.
00:08I have been hearing this repeatedly from within the Parliament.
00:11Will a good day for the Parliament be as good as all those bad days
00:17in which the Parliament either allowed itself to be used
00:21or for personal political gain,
00:24we have seen a lot in the last few years in this Parliament.
00:29Today, Bilawal Sahib started this speech.
00:32He said some very good things.
00:35When you listen to him, it seems like he is having a good conversation.
00:40Although, in the last 2-3 years, the People's Party's own character
00:44has been in the hands of the people.
00:46The way it has remained silent,
00:48remained silent on legal matters,
00:50there are a lot of questions on that.
00:52There are a lot of questions on that.
00:54Now, all those people, all those political parties,
00:57where the constitution was broken,
01:00whether it is elections or other issues, we will go into that.
01:03But, first of all, they said one thing,
01:05which is the foundation of any parliamentary democracy.
01:08Bilawal Sahib said,
01:09that we should make this House functional,
01:11then the country will function.
01:13Mr. Speaker, I request you
01:15to make this House functional first,
01:17then we can make this country functional.
01:19But, until this House is not functional,
01:21this country will not function.
01:24Absolutely right.
01:26This House has to be functional.
01:28Decisions have to be made in this House.
01:32Until this is not done,
01:34this country and its democracy will not function.
01:37In this same conversation,
01:39Ayaan Sadiq spoke about the Charter of Parliament,
01:41which is also a good conversation.
01:43It is a good thing that there should be a Charter of Parliament.
01:46Let us forget what happened in the past.
01:48Our leadership may or may not sit together,
01:51but can't we, parliamentarians,
01:53for the sake of Parliament, for the sake of improvement,
01:55can't we sign a Charter of Parliament?
01:58Can't we move towards improvement?
02:00Let us talk about people's rights.
02:02Let us talk about issues.
02:04Let us get out of individualism.
02:06Absolutely right, Mr. Speaker.
02:08Let us forget what happened in this Parliament.
02:11Let us remember what happened in the past few years.
02:15A law was passed a few days ago,
02:18a bill on peaceful protest and peace.
02:21On 7 September 2024,
02:23in Islamabad,
02:25a bill was passed on the issue of peaceful protest and peace.
02:31Three years of imprisonment on unauthorised demonstration.
02:35Ten years of imprisonment on second demonstration.
02:38This was passed according to this law,
02:40which we are now seeing.
02:42Today, Khawaja Khan Abbasi has rightly said
02:44that the law was passed on the basis of one political party.
02:47The rest of the political parties will suffer.
02:49Let the time come.
02:51They are weaponising,
02:53by legislating,
02:55those forces,
02:57or that system,
02:59in which democracy and democratic values,
03:01in which the right to assembly,
03:03that is, the right of any political party to protest,
03:05is a guarantee,
03:07in our constitution,
03:09in the constitution of Pakistan.
03:11It is guaranteed in this.
03:13But political parties don't just protest.
03:15Bolochs protest here.
03:17Students protest.
03:19PWDs protest.
03:21Do you want to punish these people for protesting?
03:23No.
03:25But this law was passed by this assembly.
03:27On 27 August 2024,
03:29a bill on local government was passed.
03:31And after approving this,
03:33on 8 October,
03:35the elections to be held in Islamabad,
03:37were postponed.
03:39That is, by legislating,
03:41that work, which is the fundamental work of a democracy,
03:43this parliament was used
03:45to postpone the elections.
03:47Election Act Bill.
03:49You may remember,
03:51it was passed a few months ago,
03:53in July 2024.
03:55It was passed,
03:57that retired judges will be appointed
03:59in election tribunals.
04:01This same government,
04:03the PDM government,
04:05had passed this bill before the last election,
04:07that only high court judges
04:09will head the tribunals.
04:11And the reason for this was that
04:13there will be strong judges,
04:15there will be decisions.
04:17Tribunals work here for 5 years,
04:19but no decision is made.
04:21Then what happened?
04:23When they saw that their needs were met,
04:25this law was also passed.
04:27A possible amendment,
04:29which you are hearing a lot about these days,
04:31is also in front of us.
04:33What will happen in that?
04:35In that, some extensions
04:37are being made at will.
04:39The plan is the same,
04:41which you are hearing a lot about,
04:43that the numbers have been completed,
04:45but the numbers have not been completed.
04:47But this parliament will be used
04:49for its political interests.
04:51Whether it is the Supreme Court
04:53or other courts,
04:55to control them.
04:57Then they say,
04:59we want to make the parliament active.
05:01In this assembly,
05:03MNAs and big leaders,
05:05despite losing the election,
05:07are also members of the assembly.
05:09So a law was made
05:11for the parliament a few years ago.
05:13And it was made right.
05:15It was said that the parliament
05:17will not be insulted.
05:19What happened?
05:21An SHO entered your parliament
05:23and arrested your MNAs.
05:25And the parliament is watching the drama.
05:27Not only are they watching the drama,
05:29but they defended it.
05:31The Speaker said,
05:33I did not know.
05:35They were informed about this.
05:55As he is saying,
05:57it is necessary to inform.
05:59But permission is necessary.
06:01The law says this.
06:03This is what IG Islamabad said.
06:05All procedures and rules
06:07have been followed.
06:23All instructions have been followed.
06:25The law has not been broken anywhere.
06:27This is what IG Islamabad and
06:29Chief Whip of the Muslim League are saying.
06:33This is what we call our parliament.
06:37You may remember that
06:39when this government was formed,
06:41it was amended in NAB.
06:45This parliament was used.
06:47It is necessary to act.
06:49But as I said,
06:51let's see what happened before.
06:53By using this,
06:55such laws were made
06:57in which their lives were spared.
06:59The day before,
07:01when they were supposed
07:03to be convicted,
07:05the next day,
07:07the Prime Minister was elected
07:09and all the cases were closed.
07:11The law was changed.
07:13It will not be less than 50 crores.
07:15In order to save themselves,
07:17all the conditions were included
07:19in the law.
07:23Since this is an active parliament,
07:25it is necessary
07:27that we remember
07:29how this parliament
07:31has been used.
07:33From this parliament,
07:35speeches have been made
07:37against the Supreme Court.
07:39That too is a legal institution.
07:41Even today,
07:43Khair Sahib stood up
07:45and told the next Chief Justice
07:47that he may have met
07:49with some other party.
07:51He said that a party is waiting.
07:53Although those who know
07:55Mansoor Ali Shah,
07:57and all the other judges
07:59who have been accused,
08:01if you look at their past,
08:03their past was better
08:05and they were considered
08:07anti-PTI.
08:09But this is not just about this era.
08:11Today, PTI has also supported this.
08:13You may remember that
08:15secret cameras came out of the Senate
08:17in March 2021.
08:19There were cameras there.
08:21A committee was formed
08:23to investigate these cameras.
08:25Last night,
08:27they said that
08:29not a single session of this committee
08:31was held.
08:33It was said that there was
08:35a colonel in the government
08:37who used to run the parliament.
08:39You are reminded again and again
08:41that who made the law?
08:43It was the establishment.
08:45They were called and told
08:47that they had to make the law.
08:49Everyone was gathered
08:51and then the law was made.
08:53The parliamentarians,
08:55when Imran Khan had to take
08:57the vote of confidence,
08:59were locked up in the lodges
09:01by the establishment
09:03because the people had to
09:05complete the work.
09:07Today, we are talking about
09:09the effectiveness of the
09:11Tariq-e-Insaaf parliament.
09:13How easily you gave resignations
09:15which later made you realize
09:17that you gave the wrong resignations.
09:19This is a dark history of this parliament.
09:21The slogans of democracy
09:23are very good,
09:25but this parliament is not
09:27used to promote democracy.
09:29Its political interest
09:31is used to promote democracy.
09:33Another thing that Bilawal
09:35said today,
09:37let's go to the debate.
09:39What did he say?
09:51He was absolutely right.
09:53Until this country
09:55follows the law,
09:57this country will not work.
09:59Even the jailed people
10:01used to talk only about
10:03the establishment.
10:05Yesterday, they even
10:07talked about the law
10:09which is not even mentioned.
10:11Why can't politicians
10:13sit together and decide
10:15the rules of the game?
10:17But Bilawal remained silent
10:19when there were no elections
10:21in this country.
10:23There were no elections
10:25of Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
10:27Institutions were shut down.
10:29Elections were contested.
10:31Media was shut down.
10:33What happened to women in this country
10:35in the last two years?
10:37People's Party became silent.
10:39It is a part of this hybrid system.
10:41Bilawal said very good things,
10:43but I think they should see
10:45that politics is not only important
10:47in Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
10:49but also in Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
10:51I have already mentioned
10:53Mr. Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar.
10:55Thank you Mr. Khokhar.
10:57Thank you Mr. Akhil.
10:59Thank you Ms. Meherbano Qureshi.
11:01She is from Lahore.
11:03I would like to ask her
11:05about democracy.
11:07Her father is in jail
11:09and her brother is also in jail.
11:11This is the democracy of this country.
11:13As it was said today,
11:15it is okay to go to jail.
11:17It is not okay.
11:19In which country is it okay to go to jail?
11:21If you are a politician,
11:23it is okay to go to jail.
11:25Mr. Khokhar, let's start with you.
11:27This is the reality of our country.
11:29Unfortunate reality.
11:31I was very happy
11:33when I heard this.
11:35I enjoyed
11:37the proceedings.
11:39But we also know
11:41all these words.
11:43You are going to enact
11:45a new constitution.
11:47And that constitution
11:49is for your political interests.
11:51How can a politician move forward
11:53from this?
11:57Mr. Kashif, you have already
11:59said a lot in the beginning.
12:01I don't think it is necessary
12:03to go back to the same details.
12:05But today,
12:07we have to face the challenges
12:09of this country,
12:11the gravity of the crisis.
12:13If we look at it,
12:15it was a very good day.
12:17It was a very good message
12:19for this nation.
12:21In the country
12:23where you are not able
12:25to create consensus on terrorism,
12:27which is your biggest challenge,
12:29the police of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
12:31are protesting on the streets.
12:33And if you look at
12:35their demands,
12:37the severity of the situation
12:39and the heart of the people
12:41are so worried
12:43that they don't know
12:45where to take this country
12:47and its 25 crore people.
12:49Now what do the police of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
12:51have to say?
12:53They say that the security forces
12:55should withdraw.
12:57We will clear our areas
12:59within three months.
13:01With whom you have to
13:03fight shoulder to shoulder.
13:05You have to fight
13:07against your enemies.
13:13Believe the police of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
13:15that it is not a small thing
13:17to protest on the streets.
13:21Then a few weeks ago,
13:23protesting is not a small thing
13:25but it is a bigger thing
13:27than what is being done.
13:29Exactly.
13:31Then a few weeks ago,
13:33a politician from Balochistan
13:35resigned from the National Assembly
13:37of Balochistan.
13:41Why did he resign?
13:43Because the situation in Balochistan
13:45is such that
13:47all the politicians
13:49are not able to answer
13:51the questions of the youth.
13:53And the biggest question
13:55that is being asked
13:57is not only in Balochistan
13:59but in the whole country.
14:01What is the status of this parliamentary system?
14:03What is the benefit
14:05of talking about the constitution,
14:07democracy,
14:09process?
14:11This is the most dangerous question
14:13that is being created
14:15in the minds of the youth in Pakistan.
14:17What does the parliament give to anyone?
14:19And where this question is being asked,
14:21there you see the bravery
14:23that in the last hour of the night,
14:25at three in the morning,
14:27masked people enter.
14:29Where this dangerous question
14:31is being asked to the society,
14:33to the state,
14:35there you should be more sensitive.
14:37That even if we make a mistake,
14:39we should not take such a wrong step.
14:41And there you enter at three in the morning,
14:43turn off the lights of the parliament
14:45and search for MNAs with torches.
14:47Sir, you heard Atta Tarar, right?
14:49He said that no one has gone inside.
14:51Did you hear?
14:53It was amazing.
14:55I will tell you.
14:57I just want to tell Atta Tarar.
14:59He said that no one has gone inside.
15:03Some videos came in your notice.
15:05Some evidence came in front
15:07that no one was picked from inside the house.
15:11And Mr. Khair said that the line has been crossed.
15:13Is his reaction justified or not?
15:15That also one has to understand.
15:17Now, without a doubt,
15:19even if we don't discuss this
15:21on TV channels,
15:23but the last college
15:25of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly,
15:27these are very alarming things
15:29for the federation
15:31that need to be paid
15:33attention to.
15:35And in this context,
15:37our economy is in turmoil.
15:39No one is talking about it.
15:41Because such big political
15:43issues have arisen
15:45that no one cares about
15:47the mountain of economic crisis.
15:49We have been repeatedly told
15:51by the Minister of Treasury
15:53that within a week,
15:55Pakistan's case will be taken
15:57by the IMF and we will get a loan.
15:59And that is not happening.
16:01And that is not happening.
16:03Kashif Bhai, believe us.
16:05Realize their seriousness.
16:07Today, those countries,
16:09the IMF has asked you
16:11to get guarantees from them.
16:13The closest countries
16:15to Pakistan,
16:17who have stood with Pakistan
16:19in every difficulty in the past,
16:21why are they reluctant today?
16:23For now, we are not getting it.
16:25For now, we are not getting it.
16:27God willing, we will get it soon.
16:29All of us want it.
16:31But the request is that
16:33the seriousness of the situation
16:35has reached such an extent
16:37that keeping that context in mind,
16:39I think that the speeches
16:41of today's day,
16:43I welcome them.
16:45This country needs
16:47a strong political consensus.
16:49And this spirit should move forward
16:51Will it remain for one day?
16:53Or will it be used as a platform
16:55and will it be further built?
16:57See, we often...
16:59half an island comes out
17:01after 15, 20, 25, 30
17:03bloody days,
17:05and half an island
17:07and half an island
17:09and half an island
17:11and half an island
17:13and half an island
17:15and half an island
17:17and half an island
17:19Whatever IG sir said,
17:21first of all,
17:23I outrightly condemn it.
17:25With MNAS,
17:27arrest from within the parliament
17:29This is not their privilege.
17:31See, if it has happened,
17:33because they have formed an inquiry committee
17:35and if I am saying that
17:37when the inquiry committee
17:39will fizzle out this whole matter
17:41and these things will be revealed,
17:43first of all, they have suspended the LCARs
17:45After that, I think that
17:47videos were being made,
17:49cars were being fired.
17:51If they have done something wrong,
17:53they could have been arrested from somewhere else.
17:55Why was it that they were arrested
17:57from outside the parliament?
17:59What is wrong is wrong.
18:01I will never stand with the wrong.
18:03But what you are saying today,
18:05a very good consensus developed,
18:07it was a very good atmosphere.
18:09This should happen further.
18:11At least, the polarization
18:13in which we have reached,
18:15which political party is it
18:17which is the leader
18:19who has brought us to this point?
18:21This is food for thought.
18:23For those people too.
18:25This is not rocket science.
18:27I think everyone knows
18:29who has introduced
18:31such a politics of pollution.
18:33Who has introduced such a politics of pollution.
18:35With MNAS,
18:37there was no such atmosphere before.
18:39Do you remember the politics of the 90s?
18:41Remembering this does not mean
18:43that what happened now
18:45and what happened recently is wrong.
18:47But the politics of this country,
18:49everyone used it at their own will.
18:51You remember the politics of the 90s.
18:53I will tear your legs, I will drag you.
18:55This is our politics.
18:57Political statements are
18:59to a certain extent correct.
19:01There are political statements
19:03between political leaders,
19:05but no one is allowed to cross that line.
19:07You can't cross that line.
19:09But you know that there are
19:11blurred lines and invisible lines.
19:13There are blurred lines,
19:15but the lines are visible.
19:17But one thing is for sure,
19:19the lines drawn by the constitution
19:21were visible lines.
19:23The problem is that
19:25the lines are visible lines.
19:27The lines are visible lines.
19:29And I hope that sanity prevails.
19:31And I hope that sanity prevails.
19:33Before the break,
19:35I want to talk to BB.
19:37Your family is in jail.
19:39I see that Zain Qureshi's
19:41production orders have been issued.
19:43And he will be brought
19:45for the next IWAN.
19:47Shah Mahmood Qureshi
19:49has been in jail for a long time.
19:53This is our democracy.
19:55This is our constitution
19:57and parliament.
19:59This is how we play.
20:01It was their turn earlier.
20:03It was their turn earlier.
20:05Today it is your turn.
20:09Yes, and this circle will continue.
20:11Tomorrow it will be someone else's turn.
20:13Tomorrow it will be someone else's turn.
20:17In my opinion,
20:19his condemnation is a verbal action.
20:21Because when you start
20:23a sentence with if,
20:25what do you mean by if?
20:27Sahibzada Hamid Raza
20:29stood on the floor of parliament
20:31and told you
20:33how the lights were turned off,
20:35how the lights were turned off,
20:37how unidentified people
20:39who were not in any uniform
20:41had masks on their faces
20:43came inside
20:45and arrested
20:47the elected members
20:49of the parliament
20:51and arrested
20:53the elected members
20:55of the parliament
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20:59the elected members
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31:25To boost our Business
31:27How are we
31:29Fudhing this federation
31:31Only and Only
31:33Religion
31:35Religion
31:37Religion
31:45RELIGION
31:47RELIGION
31:49RELIGION
31:51RELIGION
31:53I am saddened to say that 60% of the population in Pakistan cannot leave the country after sunset.
31:59You should understand the gravity of the crisis.
32:02The level at which we have brought the federation to due to our mistakes and political rivalries,
32:09the national unity is weakening.
32:12But there is nothing to be understood here.
32:15Head in one hand, cap in the other.
32:17These people will keep coming, the governments will keep changing.
32:20The foundations of the federation should not be damaged.
32:24Existential threats should not be there.
32:26We are in a very difficult situation.
32:28You are absolutely right.
32:29We hear about what is happening at the borders every day.
32:33What is happening with the Taliban?
32:35Our soldiers are being martyred.
32:37We do not have a consensus on terrorism.
32:39Do we have to fight them or not?
32:41And if we have to fight, then we have to fight those who are protesting on the streets.
32:44We have to fight those who are protesting.
32:47Where have you brought the state?
32:49You can talk to the BBC and give your answer.
32:52I just have a question.
32:54Why is there no consensus?
32:56Why is there no policy?
32:58I keep going back to it.
33:00It seems like a broken record.
33:02But the fundamental problem is that the people in power are not the electable people.
33:10The people are not looking towards them to give them a policy or take them forward.
33:16Because no one trusts them.
33:19Fahad, I am sorry to say this.
33:21But this is irrelevant.
33:25When such problems arise in countries, then everybody has to stick together.
33:29Let me ask one question.
33:31You cannot absolve yourself of this responsibility.
33:34Absolutely.
33:35Everyone has to work together.
33:37How many meetings have you had on the international action plan?
33:39We have also seen that when Imran Khan was saying that Pakistan and India were at war,
33:44he refused to sit with the opposition.
33:47He refused to sit with the opposition in the meetings of the National Security Committee.
33:52Even today, his position...
33:54Yesterday, he said that he will talk to the establishment.
33:57But my father was deputed.
33:59Shah Mehmood Qureshi was at that meeting.
34:01Look at the magnitude of the crisis.
34:04I can tell you with confidence that I got a call at around 6 pm that day.
34:10Someone from your government.
34:12They said that India started attacking us at 9 or 10 pm.
34:15This is that day.
34:16And then a meeting was called at the Parliament House.
34:19And in that meeting, think about it.
34:22India started attacking you on a full scale.
34:25And the Prime Minister said that he won't sit with you.
34:27Let's not underplay it.
34:29And even today, Kashif, the political consensus that we want,
34:33it should be on this point.
34:35That we will not use the shoulder of the establishment to destabilize each other,
34:39to remove them from the government, or to come into the government.
34:42This was a democratic country.
34:44They have ruined it.
34:46I am a witness to many things.
34:48The PDM government.
34:49Let them go.
34:50I am a witness to many things.
34:52Now, we will really have to come to that place.
34:55Imran Khan will have to come.
34:57Everyone will have to come.
34:58I would like to say something.
35:00You have a very good opportunity.
35:03Kashif, one second.
35:04Yes.
35:06Hello.
35:07Yes, tell me.
35:09Yes.
35:10All the Jamaats have a very good opportunity right now.
35:13Because your own house, which is the parliament,
35:16has been destroyed.
35:18Its elected members have been dragged and kidnapped.
35:23So, if we want to come together,
35:25if we want to be united,
35:27this is a very good opportunity for all the Jamaats.
35:30Don't just do verbal action.
35:32Tomorrow, a unanimous resolution should be passed in the parliament.
35:35And a resolution should be made,
35:37in which it should be said that not only was this wrong,
35:39we will investigate this.
35:41On whose orders did this happen?
35:43How did those people get inside?
35:45Who were those people who were behind this?
35:47And take swift action.
35:49Your interior minister will have to come
35:51and give a statement on the floor of the house.
35:53And you will have to explain.
35:55And not just condemn all of us.
35:57How are you running the parliamentary business?
36:00How are you running the agenda?
36:02When the elected representatives of the same house
36:05have been kidnapped from there.
36:07First of all, you have to
36:09She is saying there is ground available.
36:11I agree with her.
36:13Ma'am, let me give you this opportunity.
36:17Is there any debate in the government
36:19that they should come together and talk?
36:21Of course, there is.
36:23Firstly, the inquiry that the Speaker is conducting will take place.
36:25But I think that we should go one step ahead
36:27and we should have a high level of inquiry.
36:31I agree with what I said.
36:33This is also an opportunity.
36:35We are all together in this.
36:37A high level of consensus has been developed.
36:39Now we have to pinpoint
36:41whose responsibility this was.
36:43Who was responsible for this?
36:45And whose orders were executed?
36:47They cannot shy away from their responsibility.
36:49When you say this, Aqeel,
36:51But you have to see
36:53the sticking points.
36:55There are critical issues.
36:57When you start a debate,
36:59Are you ready to solve the problem or not?
37:01Absolutely.
37:03Now they have closed the doors.
37:05You wanted to talk to the establishment.
37:07You could not talk to them.
37:09You have closed the doors on them.
37:11What is wrong with the parliament?
37:13You are not ready to sit with political parties.
37:15You are not ready to talk.
37:17And you say that the establishment has deceived us.
37:19We need to move forward.
37:21What is the agenda?
37:23Wait a minute, Kashif.
37:25I have another question for Aqeel.
37:27If you allow me.
37:29We will make you like this.
37:31But have you ever...
37:33May I?
37:35Yes.
37:37I thought you would make me an anchor.
37:39I have a question for you, Aqeel.
37:41If you want to talk,
37:43you give NOC.
37:45Then you change the place at the last minute.
37:47Then you make Islamabad a container-istan.
37:4929 entry points are filled with containers.
37:51Then the legislation
37:53that has been passed
37:55the fastest in this country.
37:57The law and order bill.
37:59The public order bill.
38:01He has got the presidential assent.
38:03You implement it against a community.
38:05You should be careful.
38:07Are your actions
38:09and your call
38:11and fail
38:13not contradictory?
38:15Can we take a break?
38:19The question was for you.
38:21You talk about the talks.
38:23And you are doing what you are doing.
38:25And you are doing the legislation.
38:27People of his party say that
38:29we didn't give the NOC.
38:31It was taken from the establishment.
38:33Or they say that the government gave it.
38:35And I say that the government gave the NOC.
38:37The government didn't extend it for an hour.
38:39They could have said that we should extend it for an hour.
38:41It wasn't a big deal.
38:43The government understands.
38:45Why?
38:47I am taking an exception to this.
38:49Half an hour,
38:51an hour,
38:53it goes up and down.
38:55What happened?
38:57I am taking an exception to this.

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