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- Rana Ihsaan Afzal Khan PMLN
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
Shehbaz Govt's indication of more arrests - Kashif Abbasi's Critical Analysis, Told Everything
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, you are watching the program with me, Kashif Abbasi.
00:16Today, we have another press release, and this is the last press release in which General Faiz Hameed's General Court Marshal and the news of his arrest has been given.
00:25It adds to that. It takes that news further. Three more officers have been arrested.
00:31The three of them are accused of colluding with a political party.
00:40And perhaps this is not rocket science, if it is said that that political party is the meaning of this sentence that justice can only be done.
00:48So that is, along with justice, three more retired officers have been taken into military custody, which is against military discipline.
01:03Where is the story going? There are two or three big issues that are associated with it.
01:08The biggest issue that has been discussed the most in the last year and a half is 9th May.
01:14Are all these arrests related to 9th May?
01:17If you look at the press release of General Faiz Hameed's arrest, it does not mention 9th May.
01:23It mentions 9th May as a top city. And there is a line associated with it, in which other issues are being discussed.
01:32But it was not specifically told what it is that links General Faiz Hameed to PTI.
01:40I am sure, as the government said, more evidence will be brought forward.
01:47The press release of General Faiz Hameed's arrest has been released today.
02:00What will happen as a result of this? Where is this matter going?
02:04Is it just a matter of interference in politics?
02:07Is it just against the Army Act?
02:10The Army Act prohibits military officers from playing a political role for at least two years.
02:25If it is just about this, then the matter is different.
02:30Will 9th May be linked to this?
02:32The matter is going towards 9th May.
02:34Looking at these press releases, it does not seem so.
02:37What evidence is there?
02:39Logical questions are arising from this.
02:41We will have to look at the evidence that links General Faiz Hameed to 9th May and Imran Khan.
02:47I have had a very clear opinion for years and decades that this should not be political interference.
02:56This is not the work of the DGSI.
03:00This is not the work of the DGSI.
03:05This is not the work of the DGSI.
03:10This is not the work of the DGSI.
03:13This is not the work of the DGSI.
03:15This is against the oath that these people have taken.
03:18This is against the oath that these people have taken.
03:24But let's see where these matters are going now.
03:27But let's see where these matters are going now.
03:30Arta Tarar has talked about further revelations.
03:34He said that this matter will go further.
03:37What did he say?
03:38General Faiz Hameed was taken into custody.
03:40As a result of his investigations, these officers have been arrested.
03:44And the most important thing about today's press release is that the words used in it are at the behest.
03:49That is, it was a collusion between a political party and a political leader.
03:52With General Faiz, as a result of which the country was spreading.
03:56It is also known that when the method of non-confidence was brought in,
04:00General Faiz and his associates were in contact with the Bani Chairman PTI.
04:04And they were fully participating in the political conflict.
04:06It seems that further arrests will also be brought in practice.
04:09And its scope will not be limited to the army.
04:12All those who are involved in this, all people will be in this trap.
04:15The message was also being sent from the jail.
04:17It has come to light that Bani Chairman PTI's faith, will and desire were included when General Faiz took all these steps.
04:26So, the information minister is telling what all General Faiz did.
04:30And further arrests.
04:32And its scope will not be limited to the army.
04:35The fundamental question is whether Imran Khan will also be given an article.
04:38Excuse me, this case will be presented in the military court and will be run there.
04:42On the other hand, there is also a disagreement on the extension of Bajwa Sahib.
04:46Khawaja Asif of Muslim League Noon and Malik Ahmed Khan are on the other hand.
04:50Imran Khan was absolutely right.
04:52Malik Sahib is a friend of all of us.
04:54Everyone knew that he was very close to Bajwa Sahib.
04:56And he had a lot of messages with Mian Sahib.
04:59At that time, when Bajwa Sahib was the Army Chief, it was through Malik Ahmed Khan.
05:04General Faiz said that it was an extension matter.
05:09Mr. Ahmed said that it was not an extension matter.
05:11We will talk about this in the next part of the program.
05:13Let me introduce the guests.
05:15Mr. Rana Ahsan, thank you very much from the Muslim League.
05:17Mr. Atar Kazmi is present with us.
05:19And Mr. On Abbas Pappi is present with us from Multan.
05:22He is the Senator of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:24Where is this case going?
05:27First of all, Mr. Rana, please tell us.
05:29Is this case in the norm?
05:32Is this against the Halaf or Army Act?
05:36What is this case under which you are arresting this man?
05:40In the name of Allah.
05:42First of all, this is the internal accountability of the military.
05:45You are making statements.
05:47No, we are not making statements.
05:49We are talking about the facts.
05:52The Army Act of the military is very clear.
05:56After retirement, you should not interfere in political matters.
06:00There should be no involvement.
06:02This is evident from this.
06:04And the collusion they are talking about is this.
06:07When you came to DG, you were a serving officer.
06:13You were under the government.
06:15In fact, you were working with the PM.
06:17When that changed, you will remember the statement of the new DG.
06:22The first question I was asked was,
06:24What is the biggest problem of Pakistan?
06:26And I said, it is the economy.
06:28So I was told, no, it is not the economy.
06:30Opposition is the biggest problem.
06:32Faiz Hameed was solving the opposition problem as DGI.
06:37This work starts from there.
06:39And then when he went to the Corps,
06:43this matter continued.
06:45And Mr. Taas also mentioned that when...
06:49If you started doing it just by knocking down the opposition,
06:53then many old DGIs will be brought to this account.
06:56Maybe your party will bring General Zaheer-ul-Islam and General Pasha.
07:01But these things build up.
07:03The story goes on.
07:05The story started here that when you were in the Corps,
07:08you were interfering in political matters.
07:11Like there was no confidence.
07:13There was a conflict.
07:15I don't think it is a part of it.
07:17These things are unfolding now.
07:19This is a part when you retire later.
07:22You were told that...
07:24No, when you retire,
07:26even after that...
07:28Is this a case after retirement or before retirement?
07:31This is a case after retirement.
07:33So it is post-retirement.
07:35So don't go before retirement.
07:37Let's talk about the case first.
07:39You are saying that this is a case after retirement.
07:41There can be two big things.
07:43It can be in 2009.
07:45Or there can be interference in politics.
07:47With a political party,
07:49trying to bring down the government,
07:51making statements.
07:52Which direction are you going?
07:54I will tell you that it can go so far
07:56that when Mr. Khan was in the government
07:58and he found out that he was leaving,
08:00he rejected the IMF agreement.
08:02This was also a collusion.
08:04This was also a financial war
08:06under a collusion and plan
08:08that shook the country's economy.
08:10But this is not a part of it.
08:12When we go there, we will talk again.
08:14Let me tell you.
08:16As a government, I have only one clarity.
08:18You have given one clarity
08:20that this is the conduct of the four officers
08:22after retirement.
08:24I am saying that after retirement,
08:26three or four big things are happening.
08:28Two big things are happening.
08:30One is May 9, which is the biggest event.
08:32And one is politics.
08:34What do you think?
08:36Are these four arrests because of May 9?
08:38Or is it because of politics?
08:40This is just the tip of the iceberg.
08:42And the answer to your specific question
08:44is that
08:46it is after retirement.
08:48And everything that you are talking about
08:50is included in it.
08:52But the things that are coming up now,
08:54the network that is being run,
08:56that you write letters to the IMF
08:58under a planning,
09:00you attack GSP Plus,
09:02you do everything on political schemes.
09:04This is the beginning.
09:06This is the beginning.
09:08This is the beginning.
09:10Let's see where Bappi goes next.
09:12But the biggest foundation
09:14is directly on you.
09:16I feel that
09:18you don't need to be a rocket scientist.
09:20You don't need to be a rocket scientist.
09:22An average IQ person like me can understand
09:24that instability is the behest of
09:26and in collusion with vested political interests.
09:28And if I translate this,
09:30I can see that
09:32there is justice written here.
09:34You are accused of collusion.
09:36These three people colluded with you
09:38and were arrested in that account.
09:42I seek refuge in Allah from the accursed Satan.
09:44In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful.
09:46Kashifa, there are only two issues.
09:48If the army had its own internal issue,
09:50then why did Sharjeel Memon and Taula Tarar
09:52have to press-confess today?
09:54If these are internal SOPs and TORs
09:56of their army,
09:58why is a political party or a government spokesperson
10:00representing them
10:02trying to give it a political angle?
10:04My second question.
10:06This has been linked repeatedly since May 9.
10:08There is no other opinion on this
10:10that Khan Sahib always liked General Faiz
10:12and once he even took a stand for him
10:14to give him an extension
10:16and he was an apple of discord
10:18between General Bajwa and Khan Sahib
10:20in those days when he wanted to carry on
10:22and General Bajwa said,
10:24no, I don't want to.
10:26So there is no other opinion on this.
10:28But he made it very clear that
10:30I had a professional relationship with him
10:32and after that I had no relationship with him.
10:34Wait a second.
10:36You are making a big statement.
10:38One question.
10:40If this has been linked since May 9,
10:42then my question is that
10:44General Faiz is in Pakistan
10:46and he must be under the radar
10:48of the army
10:50and he was not hiding anywhere.
10:52Why was he presented 15 months before?
10:54Why was he said that he was colluding
10:56and he was part of it?
10:58Why this time?
11:00Why after the 15th month
11:02when all the cases were closed
11:04and out of nowhere
11:06he came out of nowhere
11:08as a top city official
11:10and now he is a government spokesperson
11:12and he is directly or indirectly linking him.
11:14So the timing matters.
11:1615 months, why silence?
11:18Why a silence on this one?
11:20Why out of nowhere?
11:22Sir, let me say something.
11:24If there is evidence,
11:26whether it is 15 months or 25 months,
11:28it doesn't matter.
11:30Look at it dispassionately.
11:32Even after 25 months,
11:34if a link is established
11:36and it is proven that
11:38he gave the order on May 9,
11:40it doesn't matter
11:42whether it is 25 months or 15 months
11:44or 250 months.
11:46Sir, listen to me.
11:48Didn't we clear this?
11:50I just want to say this.
11:52You want to make it judicial?
11:54Yes, exactly.
11:56This is irrelevant.
11:58I just want to see
12:00what happened
12:02because of which these arrests happened.
12:04If there is no evidence in 15 months,
12:06I have said this before
12:08that suddenly
12:10this linkage is being made.
12:12But this linkage can only be political.
12:14You have said that
12:16you have nothing to do with Imran Khan.
12:18Please explain this to us.
12:20Did you have any direct or indirect contact
12:22with Imran Khan
12:24after General Faiz's death?
12:26Never.
12:28Never.
12:30Look, there may be some courtesy
12:32but directly or indirectly
12:34linking him,
12:36I will ask you a question.
12:38How did we know that
12:40there will be arrests on May 9?
12:42Nobody knew that.
12:44We thought it will be a routine arrest.
12:46It was a sudden.
12:48And the reaction as a result
12:50was also sudden.
12:52So, this plan cannot happen.
12:54And if this kind of plan,
12:56very frankly, if you resume for 2 minutes,
12:58Sir, Khan's video is available
13:00if I am arrested.
13:02Let's not go there.
13:04There was no contact with General Faiz.
13:06Because if after this,
13:08if the contact is established
13:10or someone comes to General Faiz
13:12and says that yes, I was in constant contact,
13:14then your reputation will fall
13:16because then everything you say will be a lie.
13:18Very frankly,
13:20we have been saying from the first day
13:22that you make a judicial commission
13:24and investigate it.
13:26At least tell the nation what happened on May 9.
13:28What is the problem in this?
13:30Has the government taken any initiative on this?
13:32But if you are so sure,
13:34then just make it public.
13:36Select a judge of your choice
13:38and investigate and tell the whole nation.
13:40Sir, if we appoint a judge of our choice,
13:42we will not be convinced.
13:44Yes, the tribunals have brought retired judges.
13:46They have to be credible.
13:48There is one more question.
13:50For example, when he is in the custody of the army,
13:52if such a statement comes,
13:54then you know it very well.
13:56Obviously, we are saying that we have no concern with this.
13:58And if he gives such a statement,
14:00then there is no question of approval.
14:02There is a lot of clarity in the law.
14:04Then we are saying that
14:06Mr. Khan and I had a professional relationship
14:08when he was DGISI.
14:10Once it was all done and settled,
14:12after that,
14:14there will never be any relationship with this.
14:16If the army or anyone else has information,
14:18then we will have to wait for the future
14:20to know what the information is
14:22and what the contact was.
14:24I am sure that in the coming days,
14:26more than DGISI,
14:28they will tell us what is happening there
14:30and how much approval is being made.
14:32And how many people are being indicted there.
14:34As long as it is factual,
14:36I don't care who the messenger is.
14:38The matter should be factual.
14:40Break it down for me.
14:42The arrest of General Faiz
14:44is an unprecedented matter.
14:46It is a very big development.
14:48It is not a small one.
14:50Maybe we all agree that
14:52this has never happened in our history.
14:54And because of these reasons, it never happened.
14:56Then these three officers came.
14:58What is going on?
15:00How are you looking at all this?
15:02What is happening?
15:04Why is all this happening?
15:06I see a political failure in all this.
15:08What is happening is that
15:10they are trying to create political instability.
15:12When your popular parties are in power,
15:14who have the backing of the people,
15:16no one can create political instability.
15:18I think the factor of 8th February is also there.
15:20After the election of 8th February,
15:22those who came to power
15:24were not able to create political instability.
15:26Right now, from Gwadar to Malakand,
15:28whenever there is a protest,
15:30they don't even raise their voice
15:32against Shahbaz Sharif.
15:34They don't even raise their voice
15:36against the Prime Minister.
15:38So when political parties
15:40fail to create political instability,
15:42then obviously pressure is felt.
15:44The debate on various institutions
15:46goes back and forth.
15:48But in response to that,
15:50you did not arrest your former DG ISI,
15:52It's a major development.
15:54It doesn't make sense to me
15:56that political parties have failed
15:58to create political instability.
16:00Something will definitely happen.
16:02This is not an all-of-a-sudden
16:04out-of-the-blue situation.
16:06General Faiz was here earlier.
16:08Why did you have to wait for 1.5-2 years?
16:1015 months.
16:12Why did you have to wait for 1.5 years
16:14and then these things came out?
16:16I think the political atmosphere
16:18in this press release
16:20is due to the fact that
16:22after his retirement,
16:24his activities
16:26against the Army Act
16:28will definitely have something
16:30to do with it.
16:32Everyone says that
16:34he is in touch with Mr. Khan
16:36or with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
16:38So there is a major political factor
16:40at the level of the government.
16:42And this is linked
16:44to General Faiz's arrest.
16:46The first sentence says
16:48that General Faiz is in military custody.
16:50This is also linked to him.
16:52So the accusation against General Faiz
16:54will be the same
16:56for all three of them.
16:58This is not as relevant as General Faiz.
17:00Of course General Faiz is relevant.
17:02Then there is the case of Top City.
17:04There is the case of 2017.
17:06Even at that time,
17:08your brother-in-law, Mr. Asif,
17:10was the Minister of Defense.
17:12Was the Minister of Defense aware of this?
17:14Then the Minister of Defense came on TV
17:16and said that he was being offered
17:18the government of Punjab.
17:20In what capacity was he being offered
17:22the government of Punjab?
17:24No one questioned this.
17:26He did not do anything.
17:28Look, the internal accountability
17:30of the army is going on.
17:32But isn't it the constitutional
17:34responsibility of this government
17:36that the Minister of Defense
17:38came on TV and said that
17:40a government official was talking
17:42to him about this.
17:44All these things where you see
17:46the government missing,
17:48the political side is very weak.
17:50There is no political side.
17:52Let's be honest.
17:54Tell me, were you in contact
17:56with General Faiz after his retirement?
17:58I don't think that General Faiz
18:00had any contact with Imran Khan
18:02at that time.
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