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- Khawar Ghumman (Analyst)
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, you are watching the program with me, Kashif Aghbasi.
00:15Today's program is in the backdrop of yesterday, when Tariq-e-Insaf held a big Jalsa in Islamabad.
00:21The importance of this Jalsa is also high because after 8th February,
00:25Tariq-e-Insaf held Jalsas in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Punjab and Islamabad,
00:29but they did not get a chance to hold a Jalsa.
00:32They got the NOC of the Jalsa and it was withdrawn at the last minute.
00:38After taking back the NOC, Tariq-e-Insaf used to cancel their Jalsa.
00:44But this time, they were assured that this Jalsa will take place.
00:49The Jalsa was a big power show of Tariq-e-Insaf.
00:52The Jalsa was held in an environment where the roads from Islamabad to the Jalsa Gah
00:58were closed at 25-30 locations.
01:02Containers were installed.
01:04In those containers, the traffic coming in from outside the city was stopped.
01:09This Jalsa was held in this environment.
01:12Near the Jalsa Gah, markets, restaurants, everything was closed.
01:17This Jalsa was held in this environment.
01:21This Jalsa was held in an environment where Tariq-e-Insaf's people were successful in reaching the Jalsa Gah.
01:29What does that signify?
01:31Despite 30-45 obstacles, people came out to attend Tariq-e-Insaf's Jalsa.
01:39Remember one thing, Imran Khan is not there.
01:41The biggest factor in a movement is crowd-pulling.
01:45When a big leader comes, people come out.
01:48Imran Khan is in jail.
01:50Despite that, people came out and became a part of this Jalsa.
01:55Irfan Siddiqui established a law that became a law.
02:00Before I go into other matters,
02:03that law became that if you hold a Jalsa without permission,
02:06you will be sentenced to 3 years.
02:07And if you repeat the same mistake, God forbid,
02:10you will be sentenced to 10 years in prison.
02:12In democratic countries, protest is a fundamental right of any person.
02:17Even the state has a right to make conditions,
02:21to make a place where people can protest,
02:25so that ordinary life is not affected.
02:27But the way we have criminalized protest,
02:30that if you protest, you will be sentenced to 3 years, 10 years in prison.
02:36So the Islamabad and Pindi that you closed,
02:39the government that you closed,
02:40would you like to answer that,
02:42if the government closes them,
02:44what will be their punishment?
02:45Will DC, AC or the commissioner be punished?
02:49Because your fundamental goal was that the city should not travel.
02:52But here, whenever there is a Jalsa call,
02:54you put containers everywhere,
02:55whether it is of the religious or political parties.
02:58So this was the need to think, Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaf.
03:02As I said, people came out even in the absence of Mr. Imran Khan.
03:06Why did they come out?
03:07People come to see the leaders, to listen to them.
03:10If there is no leadership, people do not come out.
03:13Why did they come out?
03:14This is against the system.
03:16After 8th February,
03:18this opportunity was given to the people of Islamabad,
03:21or to the people of Punjab.
03:23The people of Khairat-e-Pakhtunkhwa have already held a Jalsa.
03:26There was a Jalsa in Swabi.
03:27This was a message,
03:30this was against the political oppression
03:32that you feel towards the people who are related to Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaf,
03:36that they are not allowed to express themselves,
03:39they are not allowed to hold a Jalsa.
03:41Their symbol was taken from them in the elections.
03:44People came out,
03:46and came out to record their protest.
03:49Ali Ameen's speech in Gandapur was very harsh.
03:52There was a lot of discussion on this too.
03:53I have been listening for two days,
03:55and I understand that it was a very harsh discussion.
03:57But what would be the reason for their discussion to be harsh?
04:00Is this right or wrong?
04:02There is a lot of debate on this.
04:03If we journalists,
04:05we often talk about this, you listen to us on TV,
04:07we often tell you that there is no relief in the system for Mr. Imran Khan.
04:12Mr. Imran Khan, as long as possible,
04:15as long as he can be kept,
04:17he will be kept inside.
04:18This is what we tell you all day.
04:20This means that the leader of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
04:23who is in jail,
04:24whose name is Imran Khan,
04:25he has already been punished for 30-40 years,
04:29and everyone will tell you that he will be punished in the case of 190 million,
04:32or in the case of Toshakhana.
04:34If there is no relief already,
04:36and their problems are increasing,
04:38then what is there to lose for Tehreek-e-Insaf?
04:40What is the problem that will increase?
04:42He is already in jail,
04:43how much more will they put him in jail?
04:45So, because of this,
04:46I feel that Tehreek-e-Insaf has decided that after a year or two,
04:50now, perhaps,
04:51the level of terrorism in politics,
04:54will need to be increased.
04:56The outsiders may be in trouble.
04:58Our guests were coming today,
04:59Sheikh Waqas Akram Sahib,
05:00he sent a message that perhaps,
05:02he is afraid that the police will catch him,
05:05or he will be beaten up.
05:06We don't know.
05:07We have received a message from the one-liner.
05:09But, perhaps,
05:10this is the reason,
05:11because of which he is not coming.
05:12So, this reaction,
05:13the outsiders will see this,
05:16the insiders will not have to see this reaction.
05:19Yes, there is one thing for sure,
05:20that after the trial in the military court,
05:22we heard a lot about this during the Jalsa.
05:25In the speeches,
05:26in very eloquent words,
05:28Tehreek-e-Insaf said,
05:29that he will not be able to tolerate
05:31Imran Khan's trial in a military court.
05:34But, what will happen?
05:35Well,
05:36only time will tell,
05:38what will happen.
05:39But, I think,
05:40the message of all this was,
05:42that everything else is fine,
05:44but the military court trial,
05:46may not happen.
05:48And, I think,
05:49the political elite,
05:50the political elite,
05:51the outsiders,
05:52the leadership,
05:53had no other option.
05:54You may remember,
05:55the last Jalsa Multawi,
05:56and when you talk to any Pakhtun leader,
05:59and you ask them,
06:00Sir,
06:01what is the pressure on you?
06:02They say,
06:03that the biggest pressure is on the workers.
06:05Did you come to sit in the assembly?
06:07Did you come to become a minister?
06:08Did you come to become a minister?
06:09You said,
06:10vote for us,
06:11we will get Imran Khan out.
06:12When this pressure,
06:13and when the last Jalsa Multawi was cancelled,
06:16there was a big backlash
06:18among the workers of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
06:20that all of them are united.
06:21I think,
06:22to dispel that impression,
06:23there was a need to give tough speeches,
06:25which we saw,
06:27in this Jalsa,
06:29very tough speeches,
06:30from the side of Ali Min Ghandapur,
06:32and from the side of other leaders,
06:33very tough speeches were given.
06:35Is this a declaration of war,
06:37from the side of Tehreek-e-Insaf?
06:39This is the biggest question.
06:40Will politics be in this tone,
06:42in the coming days?
06:44If you allow me,
06:46Asad Qaisar is present.
06:47Mr. Rana,
06:48and Mr. Ghumman are present,
06:50but I will ask Asad Qaisar,
06:51then I will come to the studio.
06:52Asad Qaisar,
06:53Assalam-o-Alaikum.
06:54Walaikum-as-salam.
06:55Sir,
06:56the most important thing is that,
06:58why were the speeches so tough?
07:01Do you think that,
07:02this will not be able to stand up,
07:04and politics will be in this tone,
07:05in the coming days?
07:08Look,
07:09Mr. Kashiwabhai,
07:10when you put a party,
07:12against a wall,
07:13all the rights you have,
07:17legal or not,
07:19they should use it against that party.
07:21You should not give it an election.
07:23You should not give it a symbol in the election.
07:25After the election,
07:26whatever the mandate is,
07:27you can steal it,
07:28forcefully take it.
07:29Then,
07:30you can sit on its mandate.
07:32Then,
07:33you can threaten the illegitimate people.
07:34When someone does Jalsa,
07:35for Jalsa,
07:36you should not even allow that.
07:40The fundamental right that we have,
07:41our legal and legal right,
07:43tell me,
07:44what do you expect?
07:46What do you expect?
07:47I mean,
07:48all the legal rights.
07:49Sir,
07:50I understand that,
07:51you think that,
07:52we have to give tough speeches,
07:53and take on the establishment.
07:54At one place,
07:55there is a lot of criticism,
07:56at two places.
07:57At one place,
07:58you said that,
07:59you will bring the marriage procession,
08:00to Maryam Nawaz Sahiba.
08:01This,
08:02talking about your political opponents,
08:06do you think,
08:07that these are lines crossed?
08:11And I will not come to the media,
08:12later,
08:13who you are apologizing to,
08:14whom all the media,
08:15except two people,
08:16have called nonsense.
08:17No,
08:18I will tell you that,
08:19regarding this,
08:20the matter,
08:21because I did not listen to the speech,
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