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00:00Asalam-o-Alaikum, Programme of the Record, I am Sadaf Abdul Jabbar, I welcome you.
00:16We see something or the other in the political scene every day, a new news comes out, a new
00:22movement is going on.
00:23And today, something similar happened.
00:24Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaab's leadership went to meet Imran Khan from Bani, Erdiala J, and
00:31there we saw that the senior leadership, Omar Ayub, Asad Qaisar, Shivji Faraz, Hamid Raza,
00:36Ahmed Buchar, all of them are taken into custody.
00:39Just as they are taken into custody, they are released after a while and do not meet.
00:46So what is this matter?
01:18The public is also a little disappointed that there was no announcement.
01:22The intention was certainly that there would be a kick-off protest of Swabi and this matter
01:28would go towards a direct action.
01:30So the hope was that the plan would be presented.
01:33What was the reason for this that it was not presented?
01:36Anyway, the public was a little disappointed.
01:38You have observed the conversation.
01:40Now what is Rahu Fasan saying?
01:42I can guess from his words that there is no homework yet and it is also not known whether
01:47it will be a protest, a protest, a protest or a march.
01:50Let's listen to what he is saying.
01:52This decision has not been made that there will be a protest or something else.
01:55This decision has to be made.
01:56There are multiple factors, multiple proposals.
01:58A movement can be born by collecting multiple things.
02:02This movement will be promoted in multiple ways.
02:06Frankly, this decision is yet to be made.
02:08It will be done, it will be done very soon.
02:12So he is saying about the month of November that this movement will be released.
02:16How will it be?
02:17Then there was a statement related to Donald Trump.
02:19Let's talk about the whole situation.
02:21Mr. Asad Qaisar, the former Speaker of the National Assembly of Pakistan is present with us.
02:26Thank you so much, Mr. Asad Qaisar.
02:28Please tell us that you were also part of the delegation that went to Adiala Jail to meet.
02:34What happened there?
02:36Please tell us.
02:37Has the report in the media been as it is?
02:40First of all, thank you very much for reaching us through you.
02:45Today we had received an order from the Islamabad High Court.
02:49Justice Ishaq Sahib had given a clear order to hold a meeting with the Superintendent of Jail.
02:58And the Superintendent of Jail had issued an affidavit that we will meet him on Tuesday.
03:05So we went to the Islamabad High Court's order.
03:09When we went there, first they said that the name did not come.
03:11Then we showed the order.
03:13He said, let's see now.
03:15We told him to tell us by 3 o'clock.
03:20Do you want to meet?
03:21No, I don't want to meet.
03:22Then we will talk later.
03:24Instead of him talking to us,
03:26two opposition leaders, the Leader of the Upper House and the Leader of the Lower House,
03:35both the positions of the Senate and the Commission were with us.
03:39The leaders of Punjab were also with us.
03:41And the chairman of the SIC and the chairman of the Human Rights Committee were also with us.
03:48There were five of us.
03:50We were being misbehaved, pushed, manhandled, and then forcibly locked up.
04:00By whose order?
04:01Under whose law?
04:02Who gave you this order?
04:05The police's motive…
04:07They don't believe in the court.
04:09They don't believe in the court.
04:10They don't believe in the law.
04:11The thing is that the case was filed against 144.
04:14Were so many people not allowed to go?
04:17Did you have clear instructions?
04:19Did you have a paper with permission?
04:21What was it?
04:22The police is giving this version.
04:24Look, we also had an order.
04:26And the other thing is that apart from the order,
04:30we went in different cars.
04:33There were five of us in total.
04:35The fact is that the case was filed against five people.
04:38And then we went separately.
04:39The opposition leader had come from Lahore.
04:41So we went separately.
04:43This is a completely false statement.
04:45This is a complete joke.
04:48This is what Maryam and Shahbaz Sharif have called their father's country.
04:54This IGP, who calls himself an IG,
04:57and calls himself a doctor,
04:58I don't understand what kind of a doctor he is.
05:00I doubt his degree.
05:02He has no morality.
05:03He doesn't know the law.
05:05Neither is the Prime Minister in the country,
05:07nor is the CM in the country right now.
05:09Then how did he get released?
05:11When you think that all this happened,
05:13how did he get released?
05:14What happened?
05:16Please tell us.
05:17Because the way he was taken into custody,
05:19the same way you were released.
05:21Look, we don't know anything.
05:22Because this was not happening.
05:23Three opposition leaders,
05:25I was the speaker of the assembly,
05:29without any warrant,
05:32without any case,
05:34we were kept in custody.
05:37So we have decided about this,
05:39that we will call the IGP,
05:41and all the police officers against him,
05:43and all those who are filing an FIR against the jail administration.
05:47We will call this in the privilege motion,
05:49in Punjab,
05:50and in the National Assembly.
05:52We will call this in the Human Rights Committee.
05:54While Umar Ayub and Shibli Faraz are also members of the Judicial Commission,
05:58we have decided that this will be included in the agenda.
06:01We will do it there as well.
06:03And apart from this,
06:04all the options that we have,
06:06we will use all of them.
06:07Look, this country will not be cheated,
06:09it is a law,
06:11it is a rule,
06:12it is a rule.
06:14It cannot be cheated by someone's personal choice,
06:16dislike,
06:17and force.
06:20That is why we have decided.
06:22Tell us this.
06:23Yes.
06:24Okay.
06:25You will make a legal charge on this.
06:27You are saying this.
06:28Tell us this.
06:29Did you not meet?
06:30Why was it not possible?
06:32If the matter was dismissed,
06:34why was it not possible to meet?
06:36We could not meet.
06:37You know that.
06:38We were not allowed to meet.
06:40In any case,
06:41we have decided.
06:42It is up to God's will.
06:43God willing,
06:44we will go to all lengths to meet him.
06:50Okay.
06:51And Mr. Asad Qais,
06:52later on,
06:53tell us this.
06:55When we talk about the government,
06:57there are a lot of statements of Mr. Rana Sanaullah,
06:59in which he is talking about dialogue,
07:01about negotiations,
07:02about proposals,
07:03about unconstitutional talks,
07:05he is ready to talk about cases,
07:07he is also ready to provide facilities in jail.
07:09So, what has happened today,
07:11has the government given you any message on this?
07:15You see,
07:16we had to provide facilities.
07:18Basically,
07:19there is no government.
07:20When the government itself is a descendant of Farm 47,
07:23when you put the defeated people in the assembly,
07:27if the people have objected,
07:29and they sit,
07:30then they will obey everything that is given to them.
07:32There is no democracy.
07:34This is a sham democracy.
07:36It is full of corruption.
07:38This kind of democracy,
07:39when you do not have the freedom of expression,
07:42when you cannot meet according to any law,
07:44which is in the jail,
07:45according to which you cannot meet,
07:47then it means that this country,
07:50people have to move in the direction of their choice.
07:53We are learning from the law and the constitution.
07:56We are talking for a common man.
07:58We understand that everything will happen in this country,
08:00when in the eyes of the law,
08:02all the citizens are equal.
08:04The law gives power to every citizen,
08:07it gives him authority,
08:09it authorizes him,
08:10that he will not have any influence on his freedom.
08:13They have snatched away freedom.
08:15How is this possible, sir?
08:17Yes.
08:18Yes.
08:19Tell me,
08:20first of all tell me,
08:22about the final call,
08:24you have created an atmosphere.
08:26There were statements.
08:28I just listened to Ali Zafar's speech,
08:30then to Rahul Hassan's.
08:31Ali Zafar is saying,
08:32of course, there will be disappointment in the workers' union.
08:34What happened?
08:35The Swabi Jalsa,
08:37they are not able to decide.
08:39There is a lack of leadership.
08:40The party is not on one page.
08:42We often see contradictions in the statements.
08:45The party is not ready yet,
08:47to give any kind of statement,
08:49about the release in November.
08:51Look, first of all,
08:53Mr. Rahul Hassan has explained a lot,
08:55a lot of things have to be discussed,
08:57a lot of arrangements have to be made.
08:59We will do it according to our situation.
09:01Mr. Khan has explained properly,
09:03that the decision will be made by himself,
09:05and with leadership,
09:07there is complete trust.
09:09These different people,
09:11on social media,
09:13basically,
09:15the propaganda of our opponents,
09:17is important,
09:19to bring leadership among the people,
09:21among the workers,
09:23to create disinformation,
09:25to create malice,
09:27and to create confusion.
09:29But our workers are not smart,
09:31our social media people,
09:33they understand their leadership,
09:35and God willing,
09:37their efforts,
09:39because, in a way,
09:41they are the biggest party at the moment.
09:43In spite of this,
09:45we have been robbed,
09:47but we are still the biggest party.
09:49We are the biggest party in the National Assembly,
09:51we are the biggest party in the Senate.
09:53How can you put the biggest party
09:55against the wall like this?
09:57Look, understand yourself,
09:59you are not above the law.
10:01So, you have to address
10:03the disappointment of the workers,
10:05which Mr. Ali Muhammad is talking about,
10:07that their disappointment is justified.
10:09No one else has to address this,
10:11they say, get out,
10:13then we see Mr. Ali Amin Gandapur,
10:15he goes back to Peshawar,
10:17leaving the workers in the middle.
10:19So, these continuous workers,
10:21whom you give hope,
10:23and then get backtracked again,
10:25this disappointment is being talked about
10:27by your own party people.
10:29What do you have to say about this?
10:31Look, Madam, tell me,
10:33there was a two-day notice in Swabi,
10:35two or three days,
10:37I have not seen any other political party
10:39that thousands of people came out.
10:41Okay, tell me,
10:43are we a paramilitary force
10:45or are we a militant?
10:47We are a political party,
10:49we are a political party,
10:51we protest peacefully.
10:53A political party cannot
10:55go beyond its limits.
10:57We have to raise our voice,
10:59we will raise our voice,
11:01we have to investigate,
11:03we will investigate,
11:05but whoever is with us,
11:07Okay,
11:09the environment created in all the scenarios,
11:11in Swabi,
11:13you held a meeting in KP,
11:15so you can manage it
11:17in any way.
11:19The problem is when you say
11:21that we will not tell the loyalists.
11:23The leadership is not able to engage
11:25the people,
11:27the party leaders,
11:29we see their statements
11:31to the extent of social media,
11:33they are doing work from home.
11:35There are a lot of problems
11:37going on in the party,
11:39why is there confusion?
11:41But tell me,
11:43what work are we doing?
11:45We are going to jail,
11:47we are in protest,
11:49we are on the road,
11:51what is the level?
11:53And tell me,
11:55one political party
11:57that for three years
11:59we protest,
12:01we go to jail,
12:03so what are the options?
12:05Protest,
12:07march,
12:09protest,
12:11it will be like this.
12:13We will continue to protest,
12:15we will also engage
12:17all other opposition parties,
12:19you will see very soon.
12:21We are going to form a very big alliance,
12:23and through that
12:25we will destroy this government.
12:27And legally the courts
12:29are still competing with the case.
12:31The number of cases against Imran Khan, there is no room for that in this case.
12:36Inshallah, Imran Khan, I hope that we won't be able to keep this case for long.
12:44Imran Khan, you are saying that they don't believe in the £190 million case.
12:49You are saying that these cases will be solved soon.
12:52I don't see them being solved soon. There are still a lot of cases.
12:55They can have their wishes, they can have their desires.
12:58There are thousands of such desires.
13:00They want to get rid of all their desires.
13:02They want to get rid of a lot of desires, but still they want to get rid of a little.
13:04Their desires, their party is finished.
13:06The Muslim League, their Lahore is completely empty.
13:12There is no support for them in the whole of Punjab.
13:14I challenge all the Muslim League members, Noah Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif,
13:20to come and get elected.
13:23We are ready to get elected in whichever district they want.
13:26We will stand against a common worker.
13:28He won't have a political background.
13:30We will stand against him.
13:32The condition is that there should be a fair and free election.
13:34There should be a level playing field.
13:36Shahbaz Sharif and Noah Sharif, who are the biggest leaders,
13:38if the common worker doesn't win, then we will leave politics.
13:43But Asad Qais, the government is saying that there is only peace.
13:47They are not feeling any danger.
13:49They are not saying anything.
13:51In fact, they are saying that ultimately you will have to come to us and talk to us.
13:55You are talking about the election.
13:57Before 2029, it didn't seem like there would be an election here.
14:02Look, it doesn't take long for the situation to change.
14:06The people in the government are the most ignorant people.
14:09They have no information.
14:11The opposition has the most information.
14:13They will know.
14:15You wait a little.
14:17Their land is coming out of their feet.
14:22You have talked about the alliance.
14:24Which parties can be on board with you?
14:27We have heard from Maulana that he wants to be engaged.
14:33Whose wish was this?
14:35I will ask later.
14:36But which parties are you hoping for?
14:38With whom do you want to move forward?
14:40Look, we have been engaged with the GDA.
14:42We are also engaging with the Islamic Republic.
14:45We are also with Maulana.
14:47In fact, we have been engaged with the GDA.
14:50God willing, by the end of November, we will reach a point.
14:56And I hope that this will be a source of happiness for us.
15:02That we will save this country from this crisis.
15:06And we just want the decision of the country to be made by the people of Pakistan.
15:12The people of Pakistan should be respected.
15:15The elected representatives should sit in the parliament.
15:20The parliament should be the eyes of the entire power.
15:23It should be the ruler of the law.
15:26It should be the freedom of speech.
15:30Asad Qais, you just said that the people sitting in the government are the most ignorant.
15:37What is meant by this?
15:39Is there a conversation going on behind the door?
15:42Do you get any news in between?
15:44Do you have any offer?
15:46On the basis of which you are saying this.
15:48No, there are two people sitting.
15:50They keep welcoming him.
15:52They keep praising him.
15:54They do not convey any negative news to him.
15:57They are victims of misunderstanding.
15:59They think that we are everything.
16:01And then it is found that he has nothing.
16:04I would like to know about Donald Trump's statement from all the leaders of Pakistan.
16:13What is their opinion?
16:15What is the opinion of Mr. Lateef Khosla?
16:17Have you actually relied on him?
16:20And the date of release of November is also related to that.
16:23Because the cases are not ending up to the extent of November.
16:27Look, America is a democratic country.
16:31There has been a democratic election there.
16:34And Trump has won there.
16:36It is his country's own affairs.
16:38We just think that their policy, which is against the war.
16:44We believe that if they keep the policy, then there will be peace in this whole region.
16:49The rest, we want to keep our country as a sovereign country.
16:52We think that our country should make its own decisions.
16:56God willing, we will make our own decisions.
16:59We will mobilize our people.
17:03We will take out radios.
17:05We will go to the public.
17:07We will hold rallies.
17:09We will do various protests.
17:11We will do it from there.
17:13And whatever is in our court, whatever control we have, we expect from the courts.
17:16We are only Pakistanis.
17:18Pakistan is a sovereign country.
17:20And we expect from the people of our country and the law and order of our country.
17:25So, this is the month of November this year, in which Asad Qaisar is going to be released.
17:30Or do you think that matters will go beyond this?
17:35Our Jadujaid is going.
17:37And God willing, Jadujaid will bring our color.
17:40And this is the first time that such a political party, which is facing very difficult circumstances.
17:48And their leader, who is standing with his head held high.
17:50Imran Khan made this nation aware.
17:52Imran Khan gave hope to this nation.
17:54And God willing, this hope and awareness will move forward.
17:57And Pakistan will become a sovereign Pakistan.
18:01One last thing.
18:02Asad Qaisar, you are saying that your leader will give the final call.
18:06Bani will give.
18:07So, are you going to meet again?
18:09And when are you going?
18:10Yes, yes, yes.
18:11We are going to the court again.
18:12We will take an order from the court.
18:14And we will definitely go to meet, God willing.
18:18Okay.
18:19Thank you so much.
18:20Asad Qaisar was talking.
18:21I will take a break here.
18:22I will be back after the break.
18:27In this segment, we will talk about the situation of the Noon League in Surat-e-Hal.
18:31Mian Javed Lateef, Senior Director of Pakistan Muslim League Noon, and of course, a seasoned politician is with us.
18:37We would like to know from him that what is the government thinking in all these scenarios,
18:42when India is giving a statement about the protest.
18:45And by the way, what has happened today?
18:48Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaar is questioning the involvement of the government in this.
18:52So, the way the PTI leader has been arrested and released,
18:56the way he was arrested, he went to meet Imran Khan in Adiala Jail.
19:00All of them are arrested and taken into custody, and then they are released later.
19:05Mr. Javed Lateef, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
19:07Assalam-o-Alaikum.
19:38As far as I know, no.
19:40I was in the village, and I have not seen anything on the media.
19:49So, I am listening to you.
19:51But I think, even after listening to you,
19:55what is called facilitation?
19:58For me, it is about why was he arrested first, and why was he released?
20:05And this is what I call facilitation.
20:07That, if you are involved in a case…
20:11No, until we get the result of the first action,
20:15how are you getting the result of the second action?
20:18Which you are talking about in terms of release, the facilitation.
20:22No, no, I am answering the first question in the same way,
20:26and I am questioning the second question in the same way.
20:28For me, it is about why was he arrested?
20:33This is the first thing.
20:34My second question is, why did you release him?
20:39This is what people want to know.
20:41It has been one and a half years.
20:43We will ask you this question.
20:45This question will be asked by Mr. Tehreek-e-Inzab.
20:48You tell me, it has been one and a half years,
20:52there has been an incident on 9th, 10th May,
20:55and you have not been able to take a decision on it yet.
20:59Is the state begging you for justice?
21:02Then you tell me,
21:04there is no need for further testimony on the £190 million.
21:10And on that too, so many delay tactics are used.
21:15And how the dates are taken on dates,
21:18everyone knows about this.
21:20And if you think that there is some international pressure,
21:25which you are taking,
21:26which the institutions are taking,
21:28or the people sitting in the institutions are taking,
21:30or the state is taking,
21:31then at least tell the people.
21:37Okay, that is a different case.
21:39This is your point,
21:40that in your opinion,
21:43on the £190 million case,
21:45Mr. Rana Sanola has also said,
21:47secondly, you spoke about 9th May,
21:49but what happened today,
21:51similarly, we have seen with you in the past,
21:54with Muslim League Noon,
21:55there have been many incidents,
21:57which were also condemned at that time.
21:59Today, what happened in Adiyala Jail,
22:01in which, if we say,
22:04the opposition leader is in the Senate,
22:05the opposition leader is in the National Assembly,
22:07will you condemn this?
22:09What will you say on this,
22:10as a politician, as a politician?
22:14Sadaf, I think,
22:17you are not taking my point seriously,
22:22or you are not understanding it.
22:24I am telling you both things,
22:26that the first thing is,
22:28why was he arrested?
22:30Then my second question to him is,
22:33why was he released?
22:35So, in this, I think,
22:36what I want to say,
22:37I have already said that.
22:40So, the Punjab administration,
22:42is it under your Punjab government?
22:45Police, administration?
22:50Well, what happens under us,
22:52this is known to everyone.
22:54And in the past also,
22:56the things that have happened,
22:57who is under whom,
22:59this is also known to everyone.
23:03Okay.
23:04You spoke about some international pressure.
23:07This was said by Mushaid Hussain Syed,
23:12then Latif Khosla.
23:15But a lot of people are not taking this seriously.
23:18But I think, Mr. Javed,
23:20you are taking this very seriously.
23:22So, will there be any difference
23:24if Donald Trump comes?
23:25Will there be a call-shall?
23:28No, see,
23:29the matter is simple.
23:31And this is a matter of thinking and understanding.
23:35That at one time,
23:37the American flag is being burned.
23:40And that same community
23:42is waving the flag in their gatherings.
23:45Then you see,
23:46in one gathering,
23:48the American cipher is being waved.
23:51And in the second gathering,
23:53it is said that,
23:55see,
23:56this letter of the members of the American Congress,
23:59this letter is being waved.
24:01Then what do I understand,
24:03which freedom do we want?
24:05The personality you are talking about,
24:08Mr. Latif Khosla.
24:10Should I look at Mr. Latif Khosla,
24:12or Zulfi Bukhari,
24:14or look at their freedom?
24:17They are saying,
24:18on the one hand,
24:19we are slaves.
24:20And on the other hand,
24:21Latif Khosla is saying,
24:22such and such president has come,
24:24now they will give us freedom.
24:26Is there no law in Pakistan?
24:28Are there no institutions in Pakistan?
24:30Is the state not free
24:32that a president of a state
24:34gets up and announces in the morning
24:36and the other state,
24:38like slaves,
24:39presents that person?
24:41I have not seen this until now.
24:43And I think that all states
24:45have their own laws.
24:47They have their own institutions.
24:49If a president of another state is elected,
24:52or the Prime Minister is elected,
24:54can he dictate to another state?
24:57This is the first time I have heard this from Latif Khosla.
25:01But is it even a possibility,
25:03Javed Latif Sahib?
25:05Is it even a possibility?
25:08First of all,
25:09explain this to me.
25:11Explain this statement to me.
25:13Is it even possible or not?
25:15I mean,
25:16Donald Trump should come and take care of his country.
25:18Look at foreign policy.
25:19End the Ukraine war.
25:21Look at what is happening in Gaza.
25:23Or will he get engaged in this work?
25:26Look,
25:29we are a weak country economically.
25:32And the way financial institutions
25:35are being used as weapons in Pakistan,
25:40or the attempts to close the CPEC,
25:44looking at them,
25:46and this has happened in the past as well,
25:48that governments were overthrown
25:50who took the name of CPEC
25:53or started the CPEC.
25:55Governments were overthrown
25:57who made the defense of Pakistan
25:59unacceptable.
26:01These are the things in front of us.
26:03You are also saying that
26:05your government was overthrown by foreign intervention.
26:07Is this what you are saying, Javed Latif Sahib?
26:09Look,
26:10in Pakistan,
26:12there was a time
26:15when there was a portion
26:17or a tendency
26:20that foreign intervention
26:23was happening in Pakistan.
26:26But unfortunately,
26:28since our economy has weakened,
26:30after 2018,
26:32and the people who were brought in,
26:34their actions
26:36and their behavior with financial institutions,
26:39I think that
26:41the agenda of those states was fulfilled.
26:44CPEC was also closed.
26:46You were also disconnected from financial institutions.
26:50You had to go to them
26:52on strict conditions.
26:54This was the only agenda
26:56that was fulfilled.
26:58Even today,
27:00I don't see any difference
27:02between you and Mr. Terrykin,
27:04Javed Latif Sahib.
27:06Tell me one thing,
27:08now you also have a chance.
27:10If this happens,
27:12I don't think it will happen,
27:14you should also take advantage of this opportunity.
27:17Tell them that you cannot
27:19violate our laws.
27:21Look, Sadaf,
27:23everything is not for profit.
27:25You should not take political advantage of everything.
27:28The situation in which Pakistan is stuck,
27:31while taking political advantage,
27:34or for your own extension,
27:37or to support your government,
27:40you have trapped Pakistan
27:42in this situation.
27:44It is our misfortune
27:46that we are sitting like this,
27:49that a judge
27:51got the decision of a child
27:53and he had two claiming mothers
27:55standing
27:57and the Holy Quran was in his hand
27:59that this child is mine.
28:01The judge then
28:03had no other option
28:05so he said, cut the child in the middle,
28:07give half to that mother,
28:09half to that mother.
28:11I believe in both the Holy Quran.
28:13The real mother
28:15said that no,
28:17this is not my child,
28:19this is the child of the same mother
28:21who is saying with her hand on the Holy Quran
28:23that at least my child will be alive,
28:25I will see him alive.
28:27Our situation is that
28:29whatever has been done,
28:31and whatever you are saying
28:33that you will also take political advantage,
28:35we did not take political advantage
28:37and got stuck in this situation
28:39and we are standing there
28:41and we will not be able to say
28:43that wave the flag or burn the flag.
28:47Mr. Javed Lateef,
28:49the dialogues that are happening,
28:51what do you want to say
28:53to Maulana Fazlur Rehman,
28:55who used to be with you
28:57when you were in difficult times,
28:59he says that
29:01you should not talk about
29:03People's Party,
29:05you do not have the right
29:07In such a situation,
29:09Tehreek-e-Insaab also says
29:11that you do not have any mandate,
29:13so what will you offer in dialogue
29:15and why will they talk to you?
29:19Are you talking about
29:21Maulana Fazlur Rehman
29:23or PTI?
29:25We are talking about dialogue
29:27with PTI,
29:29Maulana Sanaullah is giving
29:31evidence of this,
29:33I was quoting,
29:35so what is the basis
29:37on which you are claiming
29:39that if there is a dialogue,
29:41it will be with us?
29:43Look, the thing is that
29:45Rana Sanaullah can answer
29:47this question,
29:49that why and
29:51in what way did he say
29:53that PTI is ready to
29:55have a dialogue with him.
29:57I think that those who
29:59did it on the bases of Pakistan
30:01on 9th and 10th May
30:03are still the same,
30:05targeting the bases,
30:07targeting the state,
30:09working on a flag,
30:11not obeying the law,
30:13in my opinion,
30:15it is not appropriate
30:17to talk to them.
30:19Yes, as far as the question of
30:21saying that they do not have
30:23a mandate,
30:25the government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
30:27is it not the birthplace
30:29of Form 47?
30:31If the government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
30:33is the birthplace of Form 47,
30:35then how will you name
30:37the government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
30:39as the birthplace of Form 5
30:41or Form 7?
30:43How will you name it?
30:45Look,
30:47the thing is that
30:49the elections of 8th February
30:512024 were
30:53pick and choose.
30:55It was not at all that
30:57this community has to be brought
30:59home.
31:01It has been picked and chosen
31:03by every community.
31:05You can call it a fair election
31:07or you can call it the birthplace
31:09of Form 47.
31:11Then you will have to say
31:13the same about everyone.
31:17I am saying about everyone
31:19that if the government
31:21of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
31:23is not appropriate,
31:25the thing is that
31:27the government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
31:29is the birthplace
31:31of Form 47.
31:33The government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
31:35is the birthplace
31:37of Form 47.
31:39The government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
31:41is the birthplace
31:43of Form 47.
31:45The government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
31:47is the birthplace
31:49of Form 47.
31:51The government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
31:53is the birthplace
31:55of Form 47.
32:25You yourself have raised questions
32:27on your government.
32:29But the dialogue I spoke about
32:31earlier was that the political advisor
32:33of Rana Sanaw Allah,
32:35the Prime Minister,
32:37has said that if there is a problem
32:39in jail, we can talk about it.
32:41If there is a problem on cases,
32:43we can talk about it.
32:45Now you are saying that
32:47cases should be decided.
32:49Decisions should be made by the court.
32:51What role can Rana Sanaw Allah
32:53play in this?
32:55You should ask him.
32:57You can ask me
32:59your questions.
33:01I will answer you.
33:03Any prisoner
33:05or a detainee
33:07has a right
33:09and rights.
33:11If someone
33:13has a problem
33:15and wants to talk about it,
33:17there are bases.
33:19It should be done.
33:21Okay.
33:23Tell me one thing.
33:25Mr. Mian, once again,
33:27it is a barren country.
33:29Even in politics,
33:31we see that they do not even
33:33protest.
33:35Yes, we have seen that
33:37when there is a voting on a bill
33:39in the assembly,
33:41we see that.
33:43Or when we went to America,
33:45we saw that.
33:47Do you have an idea
33:49what is the issue in Lahore?
33:51Mariam Nawaz
33:53has gone for treatment
33:55but there is a lot of criticism.
33:57Criticism from
33:59Muslim League supporters.
34:01They are saying
34:03why did the minister go?
34:05Why did Mariam Aurangzeb go?
34:07Why did the chief secretary go?
34:09The emergency situation
34:11in Lahore.
34:13The citizens do not understand
34:15what to do.
34:17Nawaz Sharif has gone
34:19but do you think
34:21senior management
34:23and ministers should go?
34:25When will they come back?
34:29Look,
34:31environmental change
34:33has become an issue of the world.
34:35We are also affected by it.
34:37Our neighbours
34:39are also affected.
34:41Look at the work
34:43that is being done.
34:45There was a time
34:47when there was
34:49dengue.
34:51The way our government
34:53worked on it,
34:55we were taunted
34:57for working on it.
34:59When their own government
35:01came, the same virus came again.
35:03Helpless people
35:05were crying.
35:07The work that is being done here
35:09is being criticized.
35:11The work that we are doing
35:13is being done.
35:15We are doing it right.
35:17We should do it better.
35:19If you do not
35:21address people's problems,
35:23why are you elected?
35:25This is why governments
35:27are elected to address people's problems.
35:31Thank you so much.
35:33Mr. Javed,
35:35we tried to understand
35:37the position of Muslim League Noon.
35:39To a great extent,
35:41they have shared their opinions.
35:43I am taking a break.
35:45I will be back after the break.