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"PTI Na Khatam Hosaki Aur Na Khatam Hogi..." Imran Khan Aur Faisal Chaudhry Ki Mulaqat Main Guftagu
Faisal Chaudhry's Reactions on Hassan Ayub's question
"Agar siyasi istehkam sirf mukhalif logon ko qatal kar ke aasakta hai..." - Chauhdry Ghulam Hussain
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"PTI Na Khatam Hosaki Aur Na Khatam Hogi..." Imran Khan Aur Faisal Chaudhry Ki Mulaqat Main Guftagu
Faisal Chaudhry's Reactions on Hassan Ayub's question
"Agar siyasi istehkam sirf mukhalif logon ko qatal kar ke aasakta hai..." - Chauhdry Ghulam Hussain
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00:00As-Salaam-Alaikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:12Dear viewers, the most important question of today's history is being asked in the media,
00:19in the civil society, in social gatherings, and wherever you go,
00:25that will the political instability in Pakistan continue like this?
00:31If there is to be political instability in Pakistan, then what are the requirements that are necessary?
00:39You saw that two days ago, Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari said during his speech that
00:46either we resolve the issue with dialogue, or we will have to use a stick.
00:53The country needs political stability.
00:56Today, Maryam Nawaz Sharif Sahiba has given a speech in Lahore.
01:00She is the Chief Organizer of Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
01:03She is the Chief Minister of Pakistan's largest province.
01:07She is saying that it is very important to end the political environment that has been created in Pakistan.
01:16It is important to treat them with terrorism.
01:19And until this matter is not resolved with them, they will continue to spread these incidents.
01:27Therefore, the time has come to clear this political filth from the country.
01:33Viewers, the question that arises here is that how will all these political issues be resolved?
01:43First of all, let us read out the definition of a state according to the mirror of Pakistan.
01:51The definition of a state is that the federal government, provincial governments, and local governments
02:08all together make up the state of Pakistan.
02:13What is the definition of a state?
02:16In this part, unless the context otherwise requires, the state means the federal government,
02:21Majlis-e-Shura, Parliament, a provincial government, a provincial assembly,
02:27and such local and other authorities in Pakistan as are by law empowered to impose any tax or cess.
02:34Therefore, the elected representatives of the people of Pakistan,
02:41on the parliamentary level, national level, senate level, provincial level, or local government level,
02:48make up the state.
02:50Now, our politicians are fighting with each other in the background.
02:57In the background of this fight, what will be the political situation in our country?
03:03Our program will focus on this today.
03:06But first of all, we will take you to Mr. Faisal Chaudhary.
03:10He is the lawyer of Pakistan Justice Foundation.
03:13We have met him in recent days.
03:17We know from him that the incident of 26 November in Islamabad,
03:23you have seen that the government has its own claim.
03:26Pakistan Justice Foundation has a different statement.
03:29Obviously, it is diametrically opposed to it.
03:32Who is speaking the truth on it? Who is lying?
03:35Now, suggestions are coming from the government and from the opposition,
03:40that a parliamentary committee or a judicial commission should be formed.
03:43So, the facts should come in front of the people.
03:46First of all, I will go to Mr. Faisal Chaudhary.
03:48He may have to go somewhere.
03:50Mr. Chaudhary, tell us, you met Bani PTI.
03:54How did you feel about the incident of 26 November in Islamabad?
04:02What is your immediate reaction to it?
04:05How many new cases have been filed against them?
04:08What do you understand?
04:10Obviously, you are not a member of the party, but you are their lawyer.
04:13You represent them.
04:15If I ask you as a bi-partisan observer,
04:19you also have a political family.
04:22What do you think?
04:24What is PTI thinking?
04:26The actions of the government are in front of us.
04:28So, how will the matter move forward?
04:31Look, when Mr. Imran Khan was told about the martyrs,
04:34he was very depressed, very upset, and then he was also very angry.
04:38He said that this kind of direct firing,
04:47like the brutal force used on innocent political activists who were unarmed,
04:54and before that, water cannons or such engagements,
04:57as is normally done to a mob or a detective,
05:05were not done by the police.
05:07The government is repeatedly holding press conferences on this.
05:11Give us some evidence as to where the firing took place,
05:14who fired,
05:15so that we can see some evidence as to where the law enforcers used fire,
05:20if they have any firing arms.
05:22But obviously, the government is making a claim.
05:25They held a press conference today as well.
05:28This is a statement from the PTI.
05:32Yes, Mr. Chaudhary?
05:34Yes.
05:35So, the problem is that the PTI's press conference is a mainstream media,
05:41because it is a gag,
05:42you are not allowed to show it,
05:44it is not even shown there,
05:46it is not even reported.
05:47Mr. Imran Khan's conversation with the journalists is also not reported.
05:51Today, Ms. Aleema has also said this,
05:53what Aleema Khan has said,
05:55if that report has been made,
05:58she has also said that
06:00the government of Tufaq, Mr. Mohsin Naqvi and Mr. Shahbaz Sharif are responsible for this,
06:04and we will go to every forum against the other people who are responsible,
06:08and the party is being sold to Faiyaz.
06:11After this, they have said that
06:13the issue will be raised on all the national forums.
06:18They had to say that the operations would have been successful,
06:21but the way the Bukti operation was successful,
06:24till today, the people of Balochistan have not been able to get out of it.
06:27In this way, they handed over the operation of the Red Mosque,
06:31and after the success there,
06:33the terrorism in the country reached its peak.
06:35They also handed over Yahya Khan,
06:38at that time too, it was being said in Bangladesh
06:40that the operation was successful,
06:42and after a month, you can see
06:44what a big incident happened with Pakistan.
06:46So, the matters that are done on such political people,
06:51they have to say that
06:55this never happens,
06:57and they have said that
06:59they crushed the PTI,
07:01they crushed the democracy,
07:03they crushed the media,
07:05they crushed the freedom,
07:07but the PTI could not end, nor will it end,
07:09because it is the biggest political reality of Pakistan.
07:11And these instructions have been made in D-Chok.
07:14Now, in the courts,
07:18and in the parliament,
07:20and in the international institutions,
07:22Inshallah, the PTI has a lot of ways of negotiation,
07:26and there are many more,
07:28so they will be done,
07:30and the local party leaders,
07:34they were also given the direction
07:36to go to the martyrs,
07:38to go with their families.
07:40Hassan, I want to ask you a question,
07:42but before going,
07:44what is the detail of the cases I asked you about?
07:46How many new cases have happened?
07:48In total, how many cases are there
07:50and those who are being investigated,
07:52those who have a judicial case,
07:54or those who have a physical demand,
07:56please tell me all the details.
07:58There have been about 300 total cases
08:00over 5 years.
08:02The last one,
08:04from 1927 to now,
08:06there are no details yet,
08:08on Sunday, there were 50 cases,
08:109 cases were registered,
08:128 cases were judicial cases,
08:14i.e. they were arrested,
08:168 cases were judicial cases,
08:18there are many such cases.
08:20The first one,
08:22which was bailed from Islamabad High Court,
08:24and they were charged with a frivolous case,
08:26now the government
08:28has done it in such a way
08:30that by doing more schemes,
08:32look, these cases will continue to be covered,
08:34you have done 50, 200,
08:36you have done 100 more,
08:38you will do 100 more,
08:40you will tackle 100 more,
08:42so such a government has
08:44a powerful arm,
08:46and the government
08:48has targeted
08:50Mr. Imran Khan.
08:52Hassan wants to ask a question.
08:54Yes, Hassan.
08:56One thing was that,
08:58let me first give my analysis,
09:00and then I will ask a question.
09:02You were saying that why is there
09:04no political revenge in Pakistan?
09:06For political revenge in Pakistan,
09:08it is necessary that on 9th May,
09:10Bani Chairman and Tariq-e-Insaaf
09:12ask for their forgiveness.
09:14If they ask for their forgiveness,
09:16then matters will move forward.
09:18Look, we have seen in the past
09:20that the tradition of
09:22exploiting the state through groups,
09:24there was an attack on PTV,
09:26there was an attack on the parliament,
09:28then you will remember the civil disobedience,
09:30which was given a call,
09:32then the assembly was boycotted,
09:34beyond the assembly,
09:36even after 2022,
09:38and now Bani Chairman Tariq-e-Insaaf
09:40remembers Bangladesh a lot.
09:42He remembers the fall of Dhaka,
09:44and he tries to repeat it.
09:46Maybe the final call of his revolution
09:48was also his wish that
09:50there will be a revolution in Pakistan
09:52on the banner of Bangladesh.
09:54Then there was such a revolution
09:56that in Punjab,
09:58Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf's workers
10:00went out to their leaders.
10:02Sir, the question I have for you is,
10:04Faisal Chaudhary Sahib,
10:06when the High Court had an order in field,
10:08it took 144 days
10:10to come to Istanbul.
10:12Then why did you come?
10:14Why did you violate the order
10:16of the High Court
10:18and the law at the time
10:20and reach the Blue Area?
10:22First of all,
10:24you have mentioned 9 months of pardon.
10:26Then I will say that
10:28the officials of the incident
10:30that took place in D-Chowk
10:32will either apologize or face punishment.
10:34The government has entered
10:36people's homes,
10:38children have been killed.
10:40The main culprits who left the PTI
10:42in 9th May,
10:44according to your ID,
10:46and those who did not leave,
10:48have been kept.
10:50Who will apologize for this?
10:52Those who have been protesting
10:54for the past two and a half years
10:56in Pakistan,
10:58should apologize.
11:00Imran Khan Sahib,
11:02who was martyred by the Rangers
11:04in a traffic accident,
11:06should apologize.
11:08Secondly,
11:10what right does the High Court
11:12have to become a party
11:14in a political conflict?
11:16Is it the job of the High Court
11:18to interfere in political matters?
11:20For the first time,
11:22I have seen that the High Court
11:24always allows trade,
11:26which is a democratic right.
11:28A party that has been
11:30tried to break,
11:32tried to crush.
11:34I can understand that.
11:36Secondly, if the bullets were fired
11:38in the Blue Area,
11:40there was a blind firing.
11:42If there was a blind firing,
11:44where were the people
11:46who were shot?
11:48And where were the people
11:50who were not shot?
11:52Were they shot in a jungle,
11:54in a wall?
11:56We have been to the Blue Area.
11:58We did not see it.
12:00If you saw it,
12:02let's see it.
12:33Chaudhary Ghulam Sahin,
12:35you also have a question.
12:37Chaudhary Sahib.
13:02Chaudhary Sahib.
13:32This is not acceptable.
14:02The people of Punjab
14:04should not leave before 24.
14:06There are many things.
14:08There is a doubt that
14:10some of your people
14:12were not doing their work
14:14or the work of the party.
14:16They were doing some other work.
14:18Give this answer.
14:20My question is to Khawar Govind.
14:22He called a representative from America.
14:24I met him twice in jail.
14:26On the first night,
14:28he said,
14:30you should apologize.
14:32I said, what should I apologize for?
14:34He went again the next day.
14:36He said,
14:38you regret the happenings of the night.
14:40I said,
14:42that is on the Supreme Court's record.
14:44He said, what do you want from us now?
14:46So, you should
14:48admit your statements.
14:50I will answer
14:52your question later.
14:54Chaudhary Sahib,
14:56your party, Pakistan Tariq-e-Nisaaf,
14:58formally,
15:00you are just a lawyer.
15:02You represent Bani PTI.
15:04Do you have any office
15:06in the party?
15:08Yes, Chaudhary Sahib.
15:10I am not a political office holder
15:12of the party.
15:14I am a small worker
15:16of Mr. Imran Khan.
15:18I work with him.
15:20I deal with issues.
15:22I do other duties.
15:24Chaudhary Sahib,
15:26do you have
15:28any unanimity
15:30of the views
15:32regarding D-Chowk
15:34and Sanjani?
15:38First,
15:40Sanjani and D-Chowk
15:42are non-issues.
15:44Secondly,
15:46there is a difference of opinion
15:48between the two parties.
15:50When Mr. Imran Khan gives
15:52the final call,
15:54there is no discussion.
15:56The party is unanimous
15:58on Mr. Imran Khan's release.
16:00We have other
16:02ways of protesting.
16:04They will also be dropped.
16:08Is Bushra's final authority
16:10or Mr. Imran Khan's?
16:12The party is saying
16:14that Bushra Begum took the call.
16:16You are saying that it was
16:18Mr. Imran Khan's final call.
16:20Chaudhary Sahib,
16:22was it Mr. Begum's call
16:24or was it Mr. Imran Khan's?
16:28I am on Skype.
16:30My voice is cut off.
16:36Bushra Begum
16:38and Mr. Imran Khan
16:40said yesterday
16:42and today
16:44that they led
16:46with bravery
16:48and courage.
16:50Is D-Chowk in Delhi?
16:52Is D-Chowk in Bombay?
16:54Is D-Chowk in Srinagar?
16:56It is in Pakistan.
16:58It has been a crime
17:00to go to D-Chowk.
17:02I go there 45 times a day.
17:04Will you shoot us?
17:06You go there 45 times a day.
17:08I didn't do it on purpose.
17:10I didn't do it on purpose.
17:12I didn't come with a shroud.
17:14I didn't come with a jatha.
17:16Thank you very much,
17:18Mr. Chaudhary.
17:20Let's move on to the next story.
17:22Our representatives of the
17:24Islamabad High Court,
17:26Mr. Hussain Chaudhary,
17:28let's go to him.
17:30You may remember
17:32the election results
17:34of 8th February.
17:36Obviously,
17:38Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf
17:40claimed that
17:42we had the votes.
17:44Farm 45 was given to us
17:46to prove this claim.
17:48There is only one way
17:50to prove this claim.
17:52That is election tribunal.
17:54You have to request
17:56the election tribunal
17:58with evidence
18:00to solve this issue.
18:02Very recently,
18:04a report has come
18:06based on facts.
18:08According to this report,
18:1023 election tribunals
18:12have only
18:14solved
18:1660 cases
18:18out of 377.
18:2017% of the cases
18:22have been solved.
18:24Today, a decision has been made
18:26regarding three circles
18:28of Islamabad.
18:30The election tribunal
18:32has been formed
18:34according to the law.
18:36The government has issued
18:38a new ordinance
18:40to appoint retired judges
18:42instead of serving.
18:44This ordinance was issued
18:46by Islamabad High Court.
18:48Islamabad High Court has asked
18:50the election tribunal
18:52to decide on this issue.
18:54Today, the decision has been made.
18:56Three MNAs of Pakistan Muslim League
18:58have been approved.
19:00Now, the tribunal will be
19:02appointed instead of serving.
19:04Hussain, please tell us
19:06the whole story.
19:08The dispute has escalated.
19:10Eventually,
19:12the decision has been made
19:14in the court of the election commission.
19:16Hussain?
19:18The election tribunal
19:20of Islamabad had three MNAs.
19:22Justice Tariq Jahangiri,
19:24a judge of Islamabad High Court,
19:26was working as an appellate tribunal.
19:28When the elections were held in February,
19:30this tribunal was formed
19:32in the beginning of March.
19:34Justice Tariq Jahangiri
19:36was running this tribunal.
19:38He was not only
19:40moving forward,
19:42but he had also
19:44brought the biggest issue
19:46of form 45.
19:48He had also reviewed it
19:50for analysis.
19:52The three MNAs
19:54had opened form 45
19:56in the court
19:58and started reviewing it.
20:00He was moving forward very quickly.
20:02Meanwhile, the MNAs of Islamabad High Court
20:04and Tariq Fazal Chaudhry and Raja Khurram
20:06went to the election commission.
20:08They raised objections
20:10that the judges of the election tribunal
20:12were moving forward very quickly.
20:14Therefore,
20:16they should be stopped
20:18or changed.
20:20Meanwhile,
20:22an ordinance came from the government
20:24in which the retired judge
20:26can work as an election tribunal
20:28instead of the serving judge.
20:30When the ordinance came,
20:32the appeals were withdrawn
20:34from Tariq Jahangiri
20:36and handed over to the retired judge.
20:38He was challenged by the PTI
20:40in Islamabad High Court.
20:42The Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court
20:44suspended the order to the election commission
20:46and asked the election tribunal
20:48Justice Tariq Jahangiri
20:50to continue his work.
20:52Meanwhile,
20:54Justice Tariq Jahangiri
20:56continued his work.
20:58However, the MNAs of the election tribunal
21:00requested the Chief Justice
21:02of Islamabad High Court
21:04to hear their plea.
21:06Justice Tariq Jahangiri
21:08was listening to the plea
21:10and he is a good judge.
21:12The Chief Justice
21:14was very upset.
21:16He asked the MNAs
21:18to issue a show cause notice.
21:20He apologized
21:22and the apology was accepted.
21:24The case was brought
21:26to the court
21:28and the case was
21:30remanded back to the election commission.
21:32The election commission
21:34listened to the plea
21:36of the three MNAs
21:38and secured the decision on 24th October.
21:40Today, the decision has been heard
21:42and Justice Tariq Jahangiri
21:44has been taken back to the tribunal.
21:46The former retired judge
21:48Shukur Pracha
21:50has now been appointed
21:52to the election tribunal
21:54and has started his work.
21:56Thank you Hussain.
21:58If the case was heard on time
22:00and the decision was made
22:02on 8th February
22:04on the allegations
22:06and complaints
22:08of Pakistan Tariq Insad
22:10or any other candidate
22:12that he has been unfair
22:14and his decision was not right
22:16then the decision should be made
22:18on the basis of the law
22:20of Pakistan in 180 days.
22:22It has been more than 9 months
22:24that the case has been heard.
22:26We will go to the break
22:28and after the break
22:30we will hear the statement
22:32of Mr. Zardari
22:34and Mr. Nawaz Sharif
22:36on which actions
22:38should be taken
22:40on the basis of which
22:42you will be able to improve
22:44the economy in the country.
22:46Stay with us.
22:48Welcome back.
22:50You wanted to comment on the tribunals.
22:52This was the decision
22:54of the election commission
22:56and it is the decision of the
22:58Pakistani government.
23:00The decision of the tribunal
23:02is the decision of the
23:04Majaz Authority.
23:06The report of Fafin
23:08is known to everyone.
23:10If there is an example,
23:12I will believe it.
23:14If you allow me,
23:16can I ask a small question?
23:18I will ask later.
23:20You know that
23:22this government
23:24said in 2023
23:26that retired judges
23:28will not be appointed.
23:30When the case is heard,
23:32you allow the retired judges
23:34through an ordinance.
23:36This is the right of the government
23:38and the government has no bad intentions.
23:40I am asking you.
23:42You are right.
23:44The government did it.
23:46They killed the retired judges
23:48because the government
23:50made a mistake.
23:52The pace of tribunals
23:54in Punjab
23:56is slow.
23:58The serving tribunals
24:00can be serving or retired.
24:02There is no bar
24:04that the serving tribunal
24:06cannot be tribunal.
24:08I was just saying that
24:10there was a law
24:12which was changed once.
24:14The problem is that
24:16Mr. Shakur is a judge of PCO.
24:18He was a secretary
24:20but he is a respected person
24:22who has got a stay from Sindh High Court.
24:24His syndicate said
24:26that your degree is not correct.
24:28What does the court say?
24:30The court has given the order
24:32and is silent.
24:34You say that a decision should be made
24:36quickly.
24:38We are talking about the system.
24:40A decision should be made quickly.
24:42Let's move ahead.
24:44Mr. Chaudhary, let's hear
24:46Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari's statement.
24:50I would like to ask you
24:52a question.
24:54When the Pakistan People's Party
24:56was formed,
24:58I don't know if I should say
25:00that you are one of the founders
25:02of Pakistan People's Party.
25:04You can say that.
25:06It is a great thing
25:08that we have a founder.
25:10He attended the first convention.
25:12You attended the first convention.
25:14Let's hear what Mr. Bilawal has to say.
25:32Mr. Chaudhary,
25:34kindly explain.
25:36I tend to forget
25:38when Mr. Bilawal
25:40talks to people
25:42from Oxford.
25:44He is the son of a great mother.
25:46He is a legacy of his party.
25:48Does he talk to people
25:50or does he use a stick?
25:52In Punjab, a stick is called a stick.
25:54You can either talk to people
25:56or use a stick.
25:58How will you convince people
26:00so that you are satisfied
26:02and the country gets political support?
26:04Mr. Chaudhary, you have time.
26:06Tell us about the past,
26:08the past of Mr. Chaudhary.
26:10Firstly,
26:12I was in the party of
26:14Bilawal Bhutto Dardari
26:16when I was 10 or 12 years old.
26:18He didn't have the opportunity
26:20to get political support
26:22by using a stick.
26:24This is a new lesson
26:26that every person
26:28has learned.
26:30They are being killed.
26:32These Khawar and Ghulam
26:34are still on TV.
26:36Why didn't I get killed?
26:38I wrote to my family
26:40that if I get killed,
26:42I don't care
26:44if I get martyred in the way of Allah.
26:46Now that you have become
26:48famous for killing people
26:50in your country,
26:52you are most welcome
26:54to do what you like.
26:56The people of Pakistan
26:58have the right
27:00to live
27:02according to the law.
27:04The democracy of this country
27:06should flourish.
27:08The opposition should also
27:10have the right to live.
27:12If you deny this,
27:14it will be a disaster
27:16in this country.
27:18Avoid this.
27:20Secondly,
27:22the Khawar and Ghulam
27:24who are doing the worst
27:26are fighting the army
27:28and the government.
27:30You are doing
27:32death service to this country
27:34which is not acceptable.
28:02The PM has also said
28:04that if we want to
28:06bring order in Pakistan,
28:08we need to
28:10clean up
28:12the political filth.
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35:32So, Mr. Chaudhary, what is this controversy?
35:36How much time do you have?
35:37No, no, you talk, Mr. Chaudhary, you talk.
35:39Yes, now listen.
35:41For the first time, whether someone likes it or not, PTI is acting wisely.
35:47They have done this, that they are first checking this.
35:52Now I am telling you everything officially.
35:55They are saying that our 5,000 people are missing in relation to the 24 and 27 incidents.
36:04Now we have found that the jails, police stations, hospitals, here and there,
36:09they say that 4,000 and some have been confirmed that they are under arrest.
36:15Some are in the police stations, some are in the jails, some are in Kashmir, some are in Kabir.
36:19And some are injured in hospitals.
36:22Now when the rest of our 5,000 missing people will not reach home,
36:27they will not be in jail, they will not be in the hospital, they will not be available in any jungle,
36:32then we will declare them dead.
36:35So I think this is a fair approach.
36:38So they say that until we get A to Z data, we will not conclude on any jump.
36:46Do you want to talk about this?
36:48Look, if you look at the situation now, then all these stories are correct.
36:52A lot of people are under arrest.
36:54Attock Jail is full of PTA workers.
36:58Adiala Jail is full of PTA workers.
37:01And Jhelum Jail is also full.
37:03So a large number of workers are under arrest.
37:06And no one is asking them how they are doing.
37:11How many numbers are there?
37:13A lot of numbers.
37:14There are old numbers, there are new numbers.
37:16If you look at the last week, there were 1,000 people arrested.
37:20There were some bills.
37:21There are a lot of numbers.
37:23Bani Chairman is not alone in Adiala.
37:25There are a lot of PTA workers there.
37:27We will talk more about this issue.
37:29See you again tomorrow. Allah Hafiz.