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00:00In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, Peace be upon you.
00:18It was a very busy day today.
00:21And when I am talking to you right now,
00:23there is an important development going on.
00:25An extraordinary development.
00:27Ever since Imran Khan Sahib was arrested,
00:29today is probably the first day
00:33that within a few hours,
00:35for the second time,
00:37we are meeting on the highest level.
00:39And this meeting is completely different from the usual schedule.
00:41Obviously, this is not a meeting time.
00:43But today, the chairman of the PTI,
00:45Barrister Gauhar Sahib,
00:47went with Barrister Saif Sahib to meet Imran Khan Sahib.
00:50And when I am talking to you right now,
00:52a little while ago,
00:53Barrister Gauhar Sahib,
00:55Shibli Faraz Sahib,
00:56and Asad Qaisar Sahib,
00:57went to meet Imran Khan Sahib.
00:59A little while ago,
01:01there was news that the ministers of Islamabad
01:03actually met in the enclave.
01:05These three,
01:06with some important government officials,
01:08including Mohsin Naqvi Sahib.
01:10Interestingly,
01:11a little while ago,
01:13Sheikh Waqas Sahib refuted this.
01:14He said,
01:15there was no meeting,
01:16no negotiations,
01:17no negotiations with the ministers of the enclave.
01:18These news are completely wrong.
01:19But then,
01:20the people whose ministers of Islamabad,
01:22Mohsin Naqvi Sahib,
01:23and others,
01:24were getting news of meetings and negotiations,
01:26a little while later,
01:27exactly the same people,
01:28got news of meeting Imran Khan Sahib.
01:31So, there is a lot going on in the government.
01:34What is going on?
01:36Babar Malik,
01:37our correspondent is outside Adiala.
01:39Let's ask him to begin with,
01:41and then we will keep you updated.
01:43Babar,
01:44when I am talking to you right now,
01:46tell me,
01:47a little while ago,
01:48Barrister Gauhar,
01:49and others,
01:50reached Adiala Jail.
01:52Adiala Jail.
02:22In one day.
02:23Secondly,
02:24it is allowed.
02:25First,
02:26regarding the negotiations,
02:27regarding the formation of a committee,
02:28Barrister Gauhar also said,
02:29that he met Bani PTI regarding this.
02:32They met for about 90 minutes for 1.5 hours.
02:34Then,
02:35they came back.
02:37We will talk to Bani PTI,
02:39regarding the situation,
02:40the progress that has taken place.
02:42Now,
02:43how long does this meeting last?
02:44Nothing is said regarding this.
02:45How long was the morning meeting going on?
02:48Look,
02:49the meeting that took place during the day,
02:51the meeting lasted for more than 90 minutes.
02:54And,
02:55how long does this meeting last?
02:57Nothing can be said regarding this.
02:58And,
02:59secondly,
03:00Barrister Gauhar,
03:01even during the day,
03:02without talking to the media,
03:03he left from here.
03:06And,
03:07even now,
03:08the situation is that,
03:09the way he came at night,
03:10and after the meeting,
03:11whether he will talk to us or not,
03:13but,
03:14he will go to Darul Uqman Islamabad
03:15and meet you.
03:17Babar,
03:18if there is any update from there,
03:19please update us.
03:20Zulqarnain,
03:21our correspondent,
03:22is present at D-Chowk,
03:23which,
03:24according to PTI,
03:25is their target.
03:26And,
03:27where they have to reach,
03:28the government should not let them reach there.
03:30Zulqarnain,
03:31thank you very much.
03:32Now,
03:33tell me,
03:34the situation at D-Chowk,
03:36Zulqarnain,
03:37after seeing that,
03:38what do you think?
03:39Will PTI be able to reach here,
03:40or will it be difficult?
03:43Because,
03:44at this time,
03:45the Minister of Internal Affairs has also arrived,
03:47and,
03:48he has also started interrogating the media.
03:50Okay.
03:51And,
03:52there is also a heavy police presence here.
03:53But,
03:54if I talk,
03:55even if they cross the 26th,
03:57then,
03:58the obstacles ahead,
03:59are very high.
04:00Now,
04:01it depends,
04:02that the police...
04:03We will update the viewers,
04:04Zulqarnain,
04:05that the viewers,
04:06who are watching the video,
04:07this is live from D-Chowk,
04:08where,
04:09the Minister of Internal Affairs has arrived.
04:10And,
04:11I can see I.G. Islamabad there.
04:12Yes, Zulqarnain.
04:14So,
04:15I was telling,
04:16that,
04:17how far can the police stop?
04:18But,
04:19it seems,
04:20that,
04:21the way,
04:22the PTI workers,
04:23have reached here,
04:24so,
04:25it seems,
04:26that,
04:27the obstacles of Islamabad,
04:28will not be able to stop them.
04:29Because,
04:30every time,
04:31the main road,
04:32is on the 26th.
04:33And,
04:34even now,
04:35the road,
04:36is going there.
04:37Now,
04:38it depends,
04:39how much time,
04:40it takes from there.
04:41If they cross the 26th,
04:42after that,
04:43there will be no major obstacle,
04:44to reach D-Chowk.
04:45Is it right to say this,
04:46Zulqarnain?
04:47Look,
04:48there are seven obstacles,
04:49from outside.
04:50These are the obstacles,
04:51of the container.
04:52Yes.
04:53But,
04:54Nafri is not present there.
04:55Nafri,
04:56is being moved,
04:57at the same time.
04:58But,
04:59the thing is,
05:00how much resistance,
05:01it can be,
05:02this can be,
05:03ascertained at that time.
05:04Now,
05:05their confidence is high,
05:06that,
05:07yes,
05:08we will not let them,
05:09reach here.
05:10Right.
05:11Come,
05:12Mohsin Naqvi,
05:13you are talking there,
05:14Minister of Entry,
05:15is present there.
05:17And,
05:18today,
05:19it has been two days,
05:21he gave a call yesterday,
05:22today is the second day.
05:25So,
05:26today,
05:27no,
05:28he came,
05:29and his voice is less.
05:32So,
05:33today,
05:34he is on his way.
05:35But,
05:36for us,
05:37the most important,
05:38is the arrival,
05:39of the President of Belarus,
05:40today.
05:41Thank God,
05:42he came safely.
05:43He is present in Islamabad,
05:44tomorrow is a very important day,
05:45because,
05:46he is,
05:47bilateral,
05:48with Pakistan.
05:50And,
05:51third,
05:52the most important thing,
05:53that,
05:54he mentioned yesterday,
05:55he is mentioning today,
05:56that,
05:58whoever,
06:01yes,
06:02our relatives,
06:03are injured,
06:04or are being martyred,
06:05whoever is being harmed,
06:08all of them,
06:09are responsible,
06:10those people,
06:11who gave the call,
06:12or seconded it,
06:13and,
06:14we are very clear on that,
06:15that,
06:16whoever gave the call,
06:17to Islamabad,
06:18those,
06:19who were martyred,
06:20they are also responsible,
06:22and those,
06:23who are being harmed,
06:24they are also responsible.
06:25So,
06:26on that,
06:27with all the provinces,
06:28with all the IGs,
06:29we have a very clear position.
06:31And,
06:32then I will say that,
06:35these,
06:36people,
06:37do not have,
06:38even 1% awareness.
06:39You can do politics,
06:40you can do whatever you want,
06:42but,
06:43specific timings,
06:44everything,
06:46I mean,
06:47even yesterday,
06:48at the national level,
06:49at the international level,
06:50they tried to create embarrassment for us.
06:52We know how it was handled.
06:54And,
06:55it was exactly like,
06:56they are doing such a thing,
06:57that,
06:58their visit to Belarus,
06:59should be cancelled.
07:01And,
07:03maybe in a day or two,
07:04I will prove to you,
07:05all those things,
07:06how that coordination was done.
07:08They are busy,
07:09with some people,
07:10with some people,
07:11we almost know,
07:12everything,
07:13how they planned,
07:14everything,
07:15that,
07:16that delegation is coming,
07:17so,
07:18how they planned,
07:19the delegation,
07:20and ruined it.
07:22So,
07:23in front of you,
07:24in a day or two,
07:25whatever things will come,
07:26IG will bring all the evidence.
07:27So,
07:28these people,
07:29I don't think,
07:30they have any shame,
07:31who don't have that much awareness.
07:32Oh God,
07:33people,
07:34you do your politics,
07:35you have time,
07:36this specific day,
07:37in these days,
07:38in these hours,
07:39at the same time,
07:40on the same route,
07:41what is the purpose of doing everything?
07:43Anyways,
07:44the public should decide,
07:45what they have to do,
07:46but,
07:49whoever,
07:51will reach here,
07:54definitely,
07:55there is no way,
07:56that he will not be rushed.
07:57We,
07:58here,
07:59you will see,
08:00with a different strategy,
08:01and,
08:02definitely,
08:03if,
08:05they come,
08:06it is not possible,
08:07that they come and we let them go.
08:08This is very clear.
08:09Sir,
08:10one,
08:11what is the nature of the negotiations,
08:12you are telling this,
08:13second,
08:14is the state waiting,
08:15for the president of Belarus,
08:16to go back,
08:17and after that,
08:18Nimta to leave?
08:19Look,
08:21our,
08:22I will tell you straight,
08:23in Mianwali,
08:25we were fired,
08:27okay,
08:28and,
08:29it was very clear,
08:30that they wanted the dead bodies.
08:32One thing is,
08:33I can give a political statement,
08:34that they are doing the politics of the dead bodies,
08:36all that,
08:37you have all,
08:38our wounded,
08:39they have,
08:42bullet injuries,
08:43evidence is there,
08:44everything is there,
08:45our SP,
08:46who is,
08:47he is critical at this time,
08:48he has got a head injury,
08:49you,
08:50at Pathargarh,
08:51the wounded,
08:52five,
08:53they have got bullet injuries,
08:55now,
08:56they want that,
08:58in any way,
08:59they have to get the dead bodies,
09:02you believe,
09:03they could not have come out of Pathargarh,
09:05if we,
09:06had not fired on them,
09:07and,
09:08legally,
09:09we have every right,
09:11we have the order of Islamabad High Court,
09:13we,
09:14under the law,
09:15and after that,
09:16the head of state's movement,
09:17after that,
09:18there is nothing,
09:19that stops us,
09:20that we,
09:21do not fire on them again,
09:22if someone,
09:23is firing on us,
09:24we,
09:25they wanted that,
09:26in any way,
09:27in any way,
09:28they should get the dead bodies,
09:29last time also,
09:30they came,
09:32with the thought,
09:33that they are standing with two dead bodies,
09:35and,
09:36our people,
09:37have lost their lives,
09:39this time also,
09:40exactly,
09:41the same strategy,
09:42they are adopting,
09:43and,
09:44the people with them,
09:45they will identify you,
09:46that what kind of people are coming,
09:47everything is there,
09:48now,
09:49for us,
09:50still,
09:51how long does it take,
09:52for the rangers,
09:53that there,
09:54five minutes,
09:55firing is going to happen,
09:56then the person will not be seen,
09:57but,
09:58we are saying,
09:59patience,
10:00patience,
10:01patience,
10:02this time,
10:03our people,
10:04we have to decide,
10:05that,
10:06we have to protect,
10:07our people also,
10:08so,
10:09anyways,
10:10this is a different thing,
10:11now,
10:12our police,
10:13have no,
10:14anyone,
10:15you are here,
10:16for two days,
10:17you are also here,
10:18tell me one person,
10:19other than,
10:20the gunmen,
10:21who have come,
10:22who are always here,
10:23any one of them,
10:24will have,
10:25a weapon,
10:26no,
10:27or a stick,
10:28or a tear gas,
10:29or a bullet,
10:30rubber bullet,
10:31they will have,
10:32something,
10:33something,
10:34but that's it,
10:35so,
10:36it was very easy for us,
10:37to answer them,
10:38in the same way,
10:39but,
10:40not to let their aim,
10:41be fulfilled.
10:42Sir,
10:43what are you saying,
10:44that,
10:45you are attacking,
10:46and,
10:47if,
10:48the gunmen,
10:49reach here,
10:50and,
10:51if,
10:52they reach here,
10:53and,
10:54the police,
10:55are not here,
10:56how will you find them,
10:57sir?
10:58We will,
10:59tell you,
11:00sir,
11:01we will,
11:02tell you,
11:03we will,
11:04tell you,
11:09No,
11:10I don't have any,
11:11meeting with the minister,
11:12for the first time,
11:13okay,
11:14on negotiations,
11:15I think,
11:16you stay here,
11:17for a couple of hours,
11:18and,
11:19your,
11:20no,
11:21I don't have,
11:22any meeting,
11:23Sir,
11:24please tell us,
11:25which position,
11:26will be,
11:27your last,
11:28so that,
11:29listen,
11:30my first thing,
11:31The first attempt is to save people's lives, the second attempt is not to save people's lives, the third attempt is not to save people's lives.
11:37The property should be safe, everything should be safe.
11:39After that, the next thing comes.
11:41For us, it matters a lot.
11:43Their goal is something else, our goal is something else.
11:46Mr. Minister, please tell us.
11:48Sir, you are the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Academy of Powers.
11:51You have, God willing, all kinds of trained forces.
11:57You have just buried one of your soldiers.
12:00And you are telling us that the demonstrators want bloodshed.
12:05That is why you are not saying anything to them.
12:07On the other hand, the situation of the citizens of the whole of Pakistan is like this.
12:11Today is the third day of the lockdown.
12:13So what is the fault of the peaceful citizens of Pakistan?
12:17And the second thing is that whenever you said that a person will not come beyond the barrier.
12:21I did not say anything.
12:22One second, one second.
12:23I did not say.
12:24I did not say.
12:25You code me and show me where I said that he will not come beyond the barrier.
12:28One second.
12:29One second.
12:30Your question has become long.
12:31The first thing is that you ask those people who say that there is bloodshed here.
12:37You do not ask those people who are trying to save their lives.
12:42You ask these questions to those people who come here every month and do exactly what they did last time.
12:49Sir, you have closed the roads.
12:51I will open the roads.
12:52Come and sit here for six months.
12:53This is what you want.
12:54The thing is that they are coming as they are coming.
12:59We are protecting our people here.
13:01Otherwise, if we had not put this protection here, you would have seen the drama here.
13:06So our attempt is to save the lives of our people.
13:10Protect your people.
13:12And definitely after that we will see what to do with them.
13:25Secondly, tell me what exactly is happening there?
13:28Because obviously the internet is not working.
13:29There is a lot of fake news.
13:30I have seen a lot about the negotiations.
13:32The first thing I said is that there are four critical people of Islamabad police, five critical people of Punjab police, who are very critical.
13:41As far as the second thing is concerned, I will talk to you separately and tell you in detail.
13:48I am waiting for some things.
13:49Tell me what is going on in the negotiations?
13:53Negotiations?
13:54There are no negotiations.
13:56I will clear the first thing.
14:07I agree with you.
14:08They will give an application for a protest.
14:10The application is approved.
14:11They can protest wherever there is space.
14:13Absolutely right.
14:14Everyone has the right to protest.
14:16Everyone has the right to protest.
14:18I said I will give you an answer to that.
14:21What do you say to the people who are going to meet at this time?
14:37Let me tell you one thing.
14:39I have met Barrister Gauhar in jail today.
14:44But I think he has some personal issues.
14:48I don't want to go into the details of the PTA.
14:51I will talk to you very openly.
14:53You can wait for some time.
14:54I will talk to you very openly.
14:55But I am waiting for some things.
15:00One second.
15:01You can add to this.
15:02Are you hopeful that the negotiations in Haryana will be successful?
15:06I am telling you that he has some internal issues.
15:09We are waiting for his answer.
15:11He has to give an answer.
15:12He has to give an answer according to the order of Islamabad.
15:15I have called him according to his order.
15:18He has to give an answer.
15:19If he gives an answer, I will tell you everything in detail.
15:21Thank you, sir.
15:23Thank you, sir.
15:25Very interesting.
15:26Very important.
15:27He was reiterating that no one will be able to come here.
15:34And whoever tries to come here will be punished by the law.
15:39He was also saying that the current situation is such that
15:43the news of the meeting in the Ministerial Enclave
15:46which we were also talking to you about,
15:48says two things.
15:49One is that negotiations are not taking place.
15:51No negotiations are taking place with the PTI.
15:54This is my clarification.
15:55He means to say that there is no engagement.
16:00There is no contact.
16:01There is a complete disconnect.
16:02There is no such thing.
16:03But when you sit in front of each other and talk,
16:08it is not a formal negotiation.
16:10It is an engagement.
16:11Barrister Gauhar, who had gone to meet Mr. Khan,
16:15says that the PTI has its own internal issues.
16:18He must have gone to meet in that regard.
16:20We are not negotiating.
16:22Another important thing he said is that
16:24he has not met anyone in the Minister's Enclave today.
16:27Do you remember?
16:28The news has been going on all day that
16:30Mohsin Naqvi has met Barrister Gauhar,
16:33Asad Qaisar and Shibli Faraz in the Minister's Enclave.
16:36And now Barrister Gauhar, Asad Qaisar and Shibli Faraz
16:39have reached Adiala Jail as well.
16:41I would like to update you that
16:42we have contacted Shibli Faraz during this time.
16:45Shibli Faraz is the senior anonymous of Mr. Tehreek Khan.
16:48He has also rejected the fact that
16:52he or Asad Qaisar has not met Mohsin Naqvi in the Minister's Enclave.
16:58So, on one hand, the government version and the PTI version
17:01are quoting you.
17:02We have also spoken to Shibli Faraz.
17:04He said that these are completely wrong news.
17:06He says that he or Asad Qaisar has not met Mohsin Naqvi in the Minister's Enclave.
17:14He also rejects the fact that
17:16Asad Qaisar or I, Shibli Faraz,
17:19are not present in Adiala right now.
17:21Otherwise, how could we have spoken?
17:23He says that Mr. Gauhar has gone,
17:25but none of us is present with Mr. Gauhar in Adiala right now.
17:30This is the current scenario.
17:33Of course, we have a correspondent.
17:36You all know Mr. Hassan Ayub.
17:39Mr. Hassan Ayub is a senior member of the core committee of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
17:44I am grateful to Mr. Shoaib Shaheen
17:46and the parliamentary secretary of information,
17:48Mr. Barrister Daniyal Chaudhry of PMLN.
17:50I am very grateful to all three of them.
17:53Mr. Hassan, first of all, please explain to me,
17:55for the people outside Islamabad,
17:57let's talk further.
17:59According to Zulkarnain,
18:01if this caravan of Mr. Ali Amin is around number 26,
18:04then how far is D-Chowk from here?
18:07If the caravan keeps on coming,
18:10without any hindrance,
18:12then how many hours will it take for it to reach D-Chowk,
18:14if you are present?
18:17If I am present,
18:19then at this time of the night,
18:21it will take 15-18 minutes.
18:23But if it travels at the speed of the caravan,
18:25then it will take 2-3 hours.
18:28If it travels at the speed of the caravan,
18:30then if we keep in mind the hindrances,
18:32then it should reach in 3-4 hours.
18:34In fact, it can reach faster,
18:36it can take 1-2 hours.
18:38But the question is,
18:40does Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf want to come to D-Chowk?
18:43Do they want to come to D-Chowk?
18:45And if they want to come to D-Chowk,
18:47then what do they have to do from here?
18:49What is their objective?
18:51If they reach D-Chowk or Adiala Jail,
18:53then what will they do from there?
18:55They will sit there for 1-2 days,
18:574-5 days, 10 days.
18:59Or from there they will attack the Prime Minister's office
19:01or the Prime Minister's house.
19:03Or they will break Adiala Jail
19:06Waseem Bhai, remember one thing.
19:08Right now, in Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf's baggage,
19:11there are the corpses of two police officers.
19:14Apart from that, several police officers are injured.
19:17And they have to pick up this baggage.
19:20Now, in such a position,
19:22Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf has come
19:24that whoever wanted the government to give them the corpses,
19:27they have given the corpses to the government
19:29and that too of uniformed personnel.
19:32Okay, now see that if
19:34at this time...
19:36Hassan, I am sorry to interrupt you for a moment.
19:38Please wait for two minutes.
19:40Mohammad Malik Sahib is with us.
19:42So that we can get to know
19:44about what is going on right now.
19:46I have all the reasons to believe
19:48that something has happened that Gohar Sahib has gone again.
19:50As I said, before this, I don't remember
19:52that in any one day or in a few hours
19:54two meetings have taken place.
19:56So, Malik Sahib, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
19:58Assalam-o-Alaikum.
20:00Is there any information that if Gohar Sahib has gone again,
20:02then he must have gone to communicate something.
20:04What is that something?
20:06Waseem, my information is that
20:08it is a very important thing.
20:10What is that?
20:12I also said the same thing in my program
20:14that if Sheikh Waqas has denied
20:16that no one has gone,
20:18but my information is that they have gone
20:20and the doors of Diyala
20:22will open again tonight.
20:24And the information is that
20:26they have been given a message that
20:28the Peshawar turn is very difficult.
20:30You people sit in Sanjani.
20:32Give your entire protest.
20:34And a political action committee
20:36will also be formed.
20:38And there can be a lot of
20:40pressure on the issue of prisoners.
20:42But they have been told
20:44that Intel's information
20:46is that
20:48we have
20:50confirmed information
20:52about some people
20:54who are announcers
20:56and some
20:58Afghan terrorists.
21:00And
21:02it is also possible that
21:04there is a target operation
21:06and the people
21:08in that crowd
21:10are picked up by intelligence agencies
21:12or if they resist,
21:14then it is possible that
21:162-3 corpses
21:18will be revealed in the next
21:201-2 days that these are the terrorists
21:22who have been killed.
21:24So,
21:26it is possible that
21:28a political action committee
21:30can be formed
21:32and a political action committee
21:34can be formed
21:36and a political action committee
21:38can be formed
21:40and a political action committee
21:42can be formed
21:44and a political action committee
21:46can be formed
21:48and a political action committee
21:50can be formed
21:52Otherwise, if they come forward,
21:54then it will be a problem
21:56and the matter can go anywhere.
21:58There are carrot and stick in it.
22:00The carrot is that a political action committee
22:02will be formed and
22:04the issue of prisoners will be taken very seriously.
22:06Today, in my program,
22:08Mr. Waqas was saying
22:10that this is in the hands of the government
22:12and there are many people who have been
22:14charged with illegal cases.
22:16You can leave them and
22:18do the cases on which there are evidences.
22:20We also know that there is a large number
22:22of people who are not related to the police.
22:24We also know that there is a large number of people who are not related to the police.
22:26We also know that there is a large number of people who are not related to the police.
22:28So,
22:30a CBM
22:32or a conference building
22:34will come from here.
22:36But the consequences are being told
22:38that there is information about some people
22:40who are in that procession.
22:42Otherwise,
22:44that information is correct or wrong.
22:46You and I cannot say anything.
22:48Mr. Mohammad Waleq's point is correct.
22:50I was telling you that.
22:52Hassan Ayub is also saying the same thing.
22:54The important thing is
22:56that
22:58if there is a
23:00targeted operation on them,
23:02then
23:04if some people are killed
23:06in this targeted operation,
23:08then the dimension of the whole thing
23:10will change completely.
23:12For both sides.
23:14So, I think the message means
23:16that you should also do something.
23:18We are also doing something.
23:20So, please step back one by one.
23:22Otherwise, this thing.
23:24But Khansab's release is not on cards yet.
23:26Right.
23:28Thank you, sir. Thank you very much.
23:30And Hassan, you have also tweeted about Sanjani
23:32one and a half to two hours ago.
23:34That perhaps PTI is being called
23:36of that status.
23:38I have also tweeted this.
23:40And I have also said this
23:42from both sides of the discussion committees.
23:44And this is written.
23:46These are the same Afghans
23:48who were present in Pakistan.
23:50These are the same Afghans
23:52who injured the eyes of the present
23:54I.G. Istanbul.
23:56These are the same Afghans in their crowd
23:58who injured Shahzad Bukhari
24:00during the D.I.G. operation in Istanbul.
24:02This is the same group
24:04that has brought
24:06this protest of Pakistani justice.
24:08So, okay.
24:10So, Hassan, I will give you a chance for PTI.
24:12Sir, thank you very much for your time.
24:14Now, obviously, it seems like
24:16I have reasons to believe
24:18that this is the case.
24:20According to my own information,
24:22if something is not decided,
24:24then the matter will not get worse.
24:26What do you think?
24:28Everyone knows your original position,
24:30your demands.
24:32Tell us about now, as we speak.
24:34What do you think?
24:36Is it better for Pakistan's justice
24:38to get approval from both sides
24:40or is it better?
24:44Sir, first of all, thank you
24:46for giving me time.
24:48For the last 27 minutes,
24:50I have been listening to your
24:52innocent program.
24:54Sir, this is a developing story.
24:56Sometimes Mohsin Naqvi, sometimes me.
24:58I apologize.
25:00First of all, I love you.
25:02I have been with you for 27 minutes.
25:04Sir, very kind of you.
25:06Sir, all these things,
25:08if there is an agreement,
25:10then both parties
25:12or all parties
25:14are bound to it.
25:16But for the time being,
25:18we have no other option
25:20other than D-Chowk.
25:22We have been listening to their dramas
25:24for the last two and a half years.
25:26The drama of 9th May has been
25:28heard by the whole nation.
25:30When 8th February came,
25:32people picked it up and threw it
25:34in the dustbin.
25:36One, two, three came.
25:38No one comes like this
25:40risking his life.
25:44But sir, the fact that a police officer
25:46lost his life just a while ago,
25:48obviously he was not a protester.
25:50Who is responsible?
25:52Who stopped him?
25:54Who did the direct firing?
25:56Who did the shelling?
25:58Yesterday, direct shelling was done
26:00on our people in Islamabad.
26:02Today, direct firing was done
26:04on our people in Islamabad.
26:06Apart from that,
26:08our people...
26:10But the police officers were
26:12directly shelled here.
26:14Look, I say that
26:16whatever is happening,
26:18they have their own videos
26:20that someone is falling
26:22from a car and someone
26:24is holding him.
26:26In fact, our PTI people
26:28are getting him treated.
26:30And in this way,
26:32whatever shelling they did
26:34from Kati Pahadi,
26:36our people picked up those injuries
26:38and they were getting
26:40unconscious from their own shelling.
26:42They picked them up, brought them,
26:44fed them, handed them over.
26:46These are such dramas.
26:48And last time, you remember,
26:50on the day of 4-5,
26:52a police officer was martyred
26:54on 5th. His son said that
26:56he is a patient,
26:58do not take him.
27:00He died.
27:02And his son's own video is present.
27:04And the FIR of 302 was filed against us.
27:06And now, Shoaib sahib,
27:08are you privy to any information
27:10about which Gauhar sahib has gone
27:12to Khan sahib? Obviously,
27:14there is some information
27:16that Khan sahib went to discuss.
27:18Do you have any idea?
27:20There is no doubt
27:22that he was met in the morning
27:24and is still being met.
27:26So I don't know,
27:28but 2-2.5 hours ago,
27:30I spoke to Shibri sahib.
27:32He told me that
27:34there was no such meeting
27:36at any place.
27:38I also spoke to him
27:40and he said that
27:42there was no such meeting.
27:44Asad Qaisar sahib is present
27:46in the caravan right now.
27:48And the second thing is
27:50that we say that
27:52we have come quietly today
27:54and we will be threatened and sent back.
27:56We have been listening to their dramas
27:58for the past two and a half years.
28:00They have brought in
28:02Mohsin Naqvi,
28:04who has created
28:06atrocities and barbarity
28:08in the entire Punjab.
28:10What is his status?
28:12Is he a politician?
28:14Let me first ask the politician.
28:16Let me ask the government.
28:18You are saving 26 minutes,
28:20he is saving 29 minutes.
28:22I apologize to everyone.
28:24Mr. Chaudhary, what is your intention?
28:26Will you not let them come?
28:28Sorry to have to wait for you.
28:30Will the government not let D-Chok come?
28:32Or maybe to avoid a big incident,
28:34the government should be careful
28:36that he has come this far
28:38and there is no woman with him.
28:40So maybe D-Chok should be allowed to come.
28:44Thank you Mr. Badami
28:46for giving me the time.
28:48Mr. Badami,
28:50let me talk about two things.
28:52The first report
28:54is this.
28:56It is a first-hand report.
28:58They have
29:00such people
29:02with them
29:04who are wanted.
29:06They are wanted
29:08in multiple cases
29:10and
29:12because of this
29:14the situation can get worse.
29:16Those who do not know
29:18are not
29:20wanted.
29:22I can confirm that.
29:24They are being shot.
29:26You are saying that
29:28terrorists are present in the protest
29:30and the police have been shot.
29:32Yes.
29:34Multiple rounds have been fired.
29:36Multiple rounds have been fired.
29:38Many people
29:40of the police
29:42have been injured.
29:44As far as I can tell you,
29:46they had shells
29:48and
29:50machinery.
29:52State machinery
29:54has been used.
29:56The situation does not end here.
29:58Those who were attacked
30:00and
30:02those who were shot
30:04are the same people
30:06who have
30:08been involved
30:10in the attacks.
30:12As
30:14Mr. Hassan Ayyub
30:16said,
30:18we have the report
30:20from the House as well.
30:22Mr. Adhwani,
30:24after the
30:26Peace, Cool and Protection Act
30:28of 2024,
30:30there are 144 cases
30:32and
30:34after the High Court's judgment,
30:36the government has
30:38no other option
30:40to stop them.
30:42But you tried to stop them earlier as well
30:44and the government failed, isn't it?
30:46We tried to
30:48tell them
30:50not to go
30:52so far
30:54that
30:56it would be impossible
30:58to go back.
31:00Despite all these things,
31:02they are coming
31:04with a thought
31:06to sabotage
31:08the visit of the
31:10President of Belarus.
31:12They are coming
31:14with a thought
31:16to derail
31:18the things
31:20that are happening
31:22in your country
31:24and to create
31:26a law and order situation.
31:28But there is something going on
31:30that Mr. Gauhar
31:32could not have gone
31:34without your permission.
31:36What is it?
31:38Mr. Gauhar can tell you
31:40No, you tell me
31:42because you are facilitating
31:44otherwise how could we have met?
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