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Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Raoof Hasan PTI
- Bilal Azhar Kayani PMLN
Kashif Abbasi's Bold Analysis on Pakistan's Current Situation
"Aaj dil bahut bhari hai, khwahish thi is nahi par haalaat na pahunchte" - Rauf Hassan
"PTI ko 2 offers ki gayi hain, khabar mein kitni sadaqat?" - Kashif Abbasi's question
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Raoof Hasan PTI
- Bilal Azhar Kayani PMLN
Kashif Abbasi's Bold Analysis on Pakistan's Current Situation
"Aaj dil bahut bhari hai, khwahish thi is nahi par haalaat na pahunchte" - Rauf Hassan
"PTI ko 2 offers ki gayi hain, khabar mein kitni sadaqat?" - Kashif Abbasi's question
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum viewers, you are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi.
00:16I am a resident of Islamabad.
00:18I got a chance to visit Islamabad for 2-3 days.
00:21And believe me, many times while going from one side of Islamabad to another,
00:26I was not able to find my way.
00:28Containers were set up in many places.
00:30Some places were closed with buses.
00:33And this is not only the case of Islamabad,
00:35it is the case of many other cities outside Islamabad as well.
00:38It is very saddening to see the situation in Pakistan,
00:41the siege mentality that should have been there.
00:46Where have we come?
00:48How are we running this country?
00:50Or how do we want to run this country,
00:52in which all this is normal?
00:54It is okay that after a few days, a few weeks,
01:00we see the situation in Islamabad,
01:03where containers are set up in many places.
01:05And cities are closed.
01:07Any city is closed.
01:08Now, there are two stories.
01:10One story is of the government and its allies.
01:14That story is that this is a progressive community,
01:17which is called Tariq-e-Insaf.
01:19They come to Islamabad after some time to spread this movement.
01:23They also say that the economy is finally moving towards improvement.
01:28And they are spoiling the economy.
01:31These are the stories that you get to hear from that side.
01:36There are dozens of press conferences.
01:38Sometimes the TV channels are less.
01:40So many press conferences are held by the government.
01:43But I am not surprised.
01:46Obviously, their survival is at stake.
01:48It is their government.
01:50As it is, as it is going on,
01:53it is their job to defend that government.
01:56Which is fair.
01:57Now, another story.
01:59The other story is of Tariq-e-Insaf.
02:01What is the fight about at this time?
02:04They say that the decision will be made
02:06as to what will be the way to run the country.
02:08According to what regulations will the country run?
02:10They are coming that their leader is in jail.
02:14And they want that their demands,
02:18the election of 8th February,
02:20whoever has the mandate, should be returned.
02:23The political prisoners should be released.
02:25And that the country should run according to the rules and regulations.
02:28In both these statements,
02:31the politics of the political parties is in its place.
02:35But one thing is that this country should run according to the rules and regulations.
02:39This decision will have to be made by this country in the coming time.
02:43How to run the country?
02:45This is not a solution.
02:47I have been seeing this for years.
02:51Cities are being closed.
02:53The opposition is being brought to overthrow the government.
02:58In the past, the only difference was that
03:00the establishment at that time used to bring the opposition.
03:04This time, the opposition,
03:07or rather, in the last 8-10 years,
03:10a hybrid model is running in this country.
03:12I am sure that no citizen of Pakistan
03:15wants to see such a country,
03:17that Pakistan should run like this.
03:19Personally, many friends and acquaintances
03:22keep asking that we have to go to Lahore,
03:24or children have to go to study.
03:26There is an emergency.
03:28How to do it?
03:30What are the ways to reach from one place to another?
03:33I don't think anybody wants to live like this.
03:35We have to find solutions.
03:37In politics, in democracy,
03:39whenever problems arise,
03:41their solution is sought.
03:43This is why democracy is a successful system.
03:47Because it tries to find a solution
03:50instead of suppressing it.
03:53On the one hand,
03:55we have our own problems.
03:59Looking at these circumstances,
04:01it is in its place.
04:03On the other hand, there is a political issue.
04:05The political issue is that
04:07justice is coming to Islamabad
04:09with a protest or demonstration.
04:11What is going to happen?
04:13Rauf Hassan is with me.
04:15Rauf Hassan, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
04:17Kashif, thank you.
04:19Rauf Hassan, tell me,
04:21we have met today.
04:23Barrister Gauhar and
04:25Barrister Saif went to jail.
04:27What did they talk about?
04:29Did they take any message
04:31to Imran Khan?
04:33Thank you once again, Kashif.
04:35First of all,
04:37I would like to express my sentiments.
04:40My heart is very heavy today.
04:44Those who are watching in this country,
04:48people like me do not want this to happen.
04:52We do not want the situation to reach
04:54the point where the prospect of education
04:57comes out so openly.
05:00There was a way of dialogue.
05:02There is a way of dialogue.
05:04And the way of dialogue should be adopted.
05:06I do not understand why there has not been
05:08a dialogue so far.
05:10We have shown willingness.
05:12But I think that on the other hand,
05:14they should also think positively about this issue.
05:16Coming to your question,
05:18Kashif,
05:20reportedly,
05:22I have not talked about it
05:24directly,
05:26but I think that they went to
05:28seek permission from Imran Khan
05:30to start a negotiation process.
05:32I do not even know
05:34what answer they got.
05:36But Imran Khan has always said
05:38that our doors are open for negotiations.
05:40But there will be no negotiations
05:42with the bandit groups.
05:44But did they go to get the message?
05:46Did they say that we will negotiate?
05:48Because the last time I heard
05:50from Imran Khan,
05:52he said that negotiations will be
05:54carried out.
05:56Are these special negotiations
05:58that they have gone to seek permission?
06:00I will not say anything
06:02that I do not have firsthand.
06:04It is a must that
06:06because this call is from Imran Khan
06:08and if they want to change anything in this,
06:10they can do it.
06:12I think maybe that's why
06:14if they have received a call or an offer
06:16or if people have approached them,
06:18then they must have gone to seek permission from Imran Khan.
06:20It is also possible that the government
06:22has called some meetings
06:24in the presence of the speaker
06:26and some of our people were also there.
06:28So maybe it is possible
06:30that the people of the government
06:32have gone to seek permission from Imran Khan.
06:34If this is the case,
06:36then I think it is necessary
06:38to seek permission from Imran Khan.
06:40This is the same meeting
06:42in which Shiblis Faraz and Umar Rayyub
06:44did not participate.
06:46Yes, Mr. Gauhar was there.
06:48I know that he had gone.
06:50If Mr. Umar was there,
06:52it would have been better.
06:54If Mr. Shibli was there,
06:56it would have been better.
06:58But the party chairman is Mr. Gauhar.
07:00A broader consensus
07:02comes to the party.
07:04It is always better.
07:06The consultative process
07:08is always better.
07:10So if there is an offer from the government
07:12or an approach from the government,
07:14then it was logical for him
07:16to seek permission from Imran Khan.
07:18Because our contention is that
07:20a mandate cannot be negotiated with the Jamaats.
07:22Absolutely right, sir.
07:24But what do you personally think?
07:26Should there be a negotiation
07:28with the Jamaats?
07:58You have said a lot of good things
08:00in the beginning.
08:02I feel that this country
08:04can follow the book
08:06which is called the Ayin.
08:08And the rule of law that flows from it.
08:10Unfortunately, it is right for you
08:12to say that this is not the first time.
08:14But this time, the way
08:16the robbery was committed in Bhoothat,
08:18maybe it is unprecedented.
08:20It has never happened in this country before.
08:22It was a matter of 2, 4, 8, 10 seats.
08:24Seats have been stolen in dozens.
08:26And the winning party
08:28was not only
08:30put in opposition,
08:32but the state
08:34has imposed
08:36on it.
08:38So this is not the case.
08:40The patience of the people
08:42is drained out.
08:44It is what we are seeing now.
08:46I understand.
08:48But more than patience,
08:50I feel that
08:52there was a lot of waiting
08:54on the part of the party.
08:56Mr. Imran Khan,
08:58when he was asked,
09:00he protested.
09:02He did not give a strict statement.
09:04He did not protest.
09:06He waited for a year.
09:08I want to come to
09:10what will happen when
09:12Islamabad comes.
09:14Have there been any negotiations
09:16in the last few months?
09:18You used to say that
09:20it is going on from the establishment.
09:22So there is no solution
09:24to the negotiations.
09:26Because in the last two days,
09:28I have seen in the world news,
09:30I have seen Ansar Bazi's news,
09:32there will be no negotiations.
09:34The government should apologize
09:36and then negotiate with the government.
09:38This contention
09:40is the contention of this government.
09:42And we had a breakthrough
09:44from the establishment.
09:46We had a conversation.
09:48And after that,
09:50I went to meet Mr. Khan.
09:52Three days ago, I was also there.
09:54Unfortunately, that meeting could not be held.
09:56And it seems that there has been
09:58a breakthrough.
10:00When was the last meeting,
10:02which you are saying was a breakthrough?
10:04It was four days ago.
10:06I think the first meeting was on 19th.
10:08The second meeting was on 20th.
10:10On 21st, we met
10:12in the group,
10:14in which I was also included.
10:16We went to Adyala and waited for three hours.
10:18We were told that there has been
10:20a miscommunication.
10:22So that meeting could not be held.
10:24Some decisions were expected.
10:26It would have been very good if it had been done.
10:28But it could not be done.
10:30And after that, as Mr. Khan had given
10:3221 dates as the deadline,
10:34that whatever you want to achieve,
10:36do it.
10:38After that, as a party,
10:40we have moved towards our protest.
10:42And today you are seeing
10:44that a large number of people
10:46have not been allowed to talk.
10:48Were you taking a message?
10:50We had to talk.
10:52Unfortunately, I cannot talk
10:54in the public domain.
10:56Don't tell me the message,
10:58but do you think there was a way out?
11:00Yes, I felt that
11:02there was a way out.
11:04And that way should have come out.
11:06Even now I say that
11:08if it did not come out in the last four days,
11:10then it should come out in the next four days.
11:12In fact, it should come out before that.
11:14But you were not allowed to meet
11:16and that way did not come out.
11:18After all, who was the one who did not
11:20let you meet in the jail?
11:22In this regard, I cannot say anything.
11:24Maybe there was a genuine miscommunication.
11:26Or maybe
11:28there were some second thoughts.
11:30Whatever it is,
11:32whatever the reason is,
11:34I think this way should come out.
11:36I think today is not the day to meet.
11:38Today is Monday.
11:40Am I right?
11:42Today is the day of meeting.
11:44It is the day of meeting lawyers.
11:46Both of them are lawyers.
11:48Okay, they are lawyers,
11:50but they went as negotiators.
11:52That is, they had to negotiate
11:54to get permission from Mr. Khan.
11:56I mean, potentially,
11:58if there is an offer,
12:00they have gone to get permission in that regard.
12:02So, if it is a government offer.
12:04If it is a government offer.
12:06In the matter of establishment,
12:08Mr. Khan has said that you should talk to him.
12:10He has been in touch with him since morning.
12:12They are generally accessible.
12:14They can easily talk to him.
12:16Today, for reasons,
12:18and I am sure obvious reasons,
12:20we are not able to talk to him today.
12:22So, you people may have
12:24kept it behind the curtain
12:26as to what will happen.
12:28But there is news in the market
12:30about two offers.
12:32Vloggers are also saying.
12:34There is talk everywhere.
12:36I will ask both of you.
12:38How much truth is there in this news?
12:40I will not be able to talk about this.
12:42Kashif, I am terribly sorry.
12:44This is part speculative.
12:46That is why
12:48I will not be able to talk about this.
12:50If we had a meeting,
12:52I am saying that
12:54maybe the matter would have been
12:56clarified.
12:58But unfortunately,
13:00we were not able to meet.
13:02As they say,
13:04things are in the cauldron.
13:06I do not like to become the one
13:08to be accused of
13:10sabotaging anything.
13:12Sir, but...
13:14You cannot even answer this.
13:16There is a demand to condemn 9th May.
13:18You will not be able to tell
13:20whether there is a demand or not.
13:22See, regarding 9th May,
13:24the government
13:26has been saying
13:28to apologize.
13:30Mr. Khan regretted it.
13:32Whatever happened,
13:34all the senior members
13:36of PTI
13:38have expressed their
13:40deep regret.
13:42We demand that
13:44a commission should be formed
13:46which can conduct
13:48independent and transparent
13:50investigations.
13:52Sir, this is your long-standing
13:54demand for a commission.
13:56I want to know,
13:58on the front page,
14:00like I told you about two newspapers,
14:02the negotiations with PTI
14:04were going on.
14:06And you also said that
14:08if the negotiations are successful,
14:10the protest can continue.
14:12There was an answer that
14:14there is neither a demand
14:16nor a scope for negotiations.
14:18Apologize on 9th May.
14:20Negotiate with the political government.
14:22That is the only way out.
14:24So, with a lot of clarity,
14:26you have been sent a message
14:28in at least two instances
14:30that there is neither a demand
14:32nor a scope for negotiations.
14:36I don't want to give a long statement.
14:38The conversation that was going on
14:40and the breakthrough
14:42that took place,
14:44I think it denies
14:46this speculative news.
14:48Okay, speculative news.
14:50Tell me, what do you want to do
14:52after coming to Islamabad?
14:54Where is your Punjab leadership?
14:56I just want to know for my understanding.
14:58Two days ago,
15:02the president of Punjab came out
15:04but he escaped arrest.
15:06The news was that he escaped.
15:08But where is Punjab?
15:10Your mobilization is KP-specific.
15:12It is not Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
15:14And the government's allegation
15:16is that you bring people
15:18from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
15:20using the government's resources.
15:22Otherwise, they don't come from Punjab
15:24as they claim.
15:26Where is your Punjab mobilization?
15:28Where is your leadership?
15:30In the elections on 8th February,
15:32PMLN was able to win 17 seats
15:34from all over the country.
15:36If these people talk about us,
15:38what should we do?
15:40I am saying that
15:42you did wonderfully well in Punjab
15:44on 8th February.
15:46But I am saying that
15:488th February is one
15:50and November is another.
15:52That's your idea.
15:54We have to do something
15:56to get people out of Punjab.
15:58The idea was that 3-4 lakh people
16:00will come out on the streets.
16:02Did you get a response from Punjab
16:04or was your leadership able
16:06to do something?
16:08Right now,
16:10big delegates
16:12from 3-4 places
16:14are coming
16:16to Islamabad.
16:18They are coming from
16:20Mianwali, South Punjab,
16:22Northern Punjab,
16:24and here as well.
16:26We will see
16:28when we reach here
16:30because we are not in a hurry.
16:32Maybe you can change
16:34your statement.
16:36A lot of people
16:38are coming from Punjab.
16:40According to my appraisal,
16:42it is a little less.
16:44It is because you don't get
16:46the level of popularity
16:48in Punjab.
16:50If we don't get popularity
16:52in Punjab,
16:54the whole of Punjab
16:56will come to Islamabad.
16:58We are facing
17:00genuine difficulties.
17:02There are containers
17:04in every street.
17:06You said
17:08you will reach Islamabad
17:10the day after tomorrow.
17:12The plan seems
17:14to be too long.
17:16You want the containers
17:18to remain in Islamabad.
17:20You want the motorways
17:22to remain in Islamabad.
17:24You want the people
17:26to be more worried.
17:28Do you have a sit-in plan?
17:30Do you have a sit-in plan?
17:32Do you have a sit-in plan?
17:34Mr. Kashyap says
17:36that the situation
17:38is getting worse.
17:40The government
17:42has extensively
17:44locked down the country.
17:46Our protest has been successful.
17:48The whole world
17:50is protesting
17:52internationally.
17:54Every publication
17:56in the world
17:58is broadcasting news.
18:00Unfortunately,
18:02our media is not allowed
18:04to talk.
18:06We discussed
18:08a strategy extensively.
18:10Fortunately,
18:12I agreed with it.
18:14We are not in a hurry.
18:16Let them be.
18:18Let's see what they do.
18:20Our progress
18:22to Islamabad is relatively slow.
18:24We will reach Islamabad
18:26in a day or two.
18:28You are slowing down
18:30according to a strategy.
18:32Islamabad will be shut down
18:34by the government
18:36and by you.
18:38We will not shut it down.
18:40I hope it will be opened
18:42If the government gives you a sit-in plan,
18:44will you take it?
18:46Will you use it?
18:48Will you sit here
18:50and protest?
18:52Kashyap, I think we have crossed
18:54that stage.
18:56We will accept
18:58the offer.
19:00I think we have crossed
19:02that red line.
19:04I wish
19:06this stage
19:08would not have come.
19:10We would have solved
19:12the issue
19:14before.
19:16Will the protest
19:18be held at D-Chowk?
19:20We are not
19:22making it public.
19:24There will be multiple events.
19:26I am just
19:28loud thinking.
19:30You want to change the situation.
19:32Imran Khan is inside.
19:34You want Imran Khan to be out.
19:36Along with that,
19:38you want political benefits.
19:40You want the government to fall.
19:42You want Imran Khan to be out.
19:44You will not come to Islamabad
19:46and have two speeches.
19:48You will remember the protest
19:50in 2014.
19:52The establishment was with you.
19:54Still, nothing happened.
19:56The governments are not falling.
19:58This is the example.
20:00Kashyap, the situation has changed a lot.
20:02I have told you
20:04that there will be
20:06multiple activities.
20:08There may not be one activity.
20:10There will be different activities
20:12not only in Islamabad
20:14but all over the country.
20:16We hope
20:18this will not be dragged.
20:20Negotiations
20:22should be opened
20:24immediately.
20:26Ultimately,
20:28you have to
20:30come to the negotiating
20:32table.
20:34The fights end there.
20:36There was no reason for the fight.
20:38I say this again and again.
20:40A negotiated settlement
20:42was possible if there was a give and take.
20:44Unfortunately,
20:46one side was stubborn
20:48not to negotiate
20:50or to impose preconditions.
20:52I think
20:54the situation
20:56has become difficult
20:58for negotiations.
21:00The snow has melted.
21:02I am hopeful
21:04that the situation will improve.
21:06Why are you saying
21:08that the snow has melted?
21:10Zero Tolerance Policy
21:12for Tariq-e-Insaf.
21:14Why do you think the snow has melted?
21:16Everything
21:18does not come out.
21:20There is so much disinformation
21:22in this country.
21:24I do not want to mention people's names.
21:26If they were here,
21:28I would have mentioned their names.
21:30All agenda-driven material
21:32is published.
21:34I personally
21:36say that this is wrong.
21:38This is all propaganda and disinformation.
21:40There are many things
21:42that do not come out.
21:44Many people
21:46do not want to write about it
21:48because it does not fit their agenda.
21:50The media is much better
21:52than me.
21:54I feel that everything has to change.
21:56If you want to run a country,
21:58you have to impose the constitution
22:00and democracy here.
22:02You have to make
22:04difficult decisions
22:06together.
22:08The biggest decision
22:10is how this country will run.
22:12This country will run
22:14under a constitution
22:16that everyone will follow.
22:18It is not possible
22:20that when we come to power,
22:22we put the constitution
22:24in the bin.
22:26You said that there are
22:28multiple activities.
22:30What are those activities?
22:32What is the scale of your success?
22:34How do you define success?
22:36Imran Khan's staying out
22:38or something else?
22:40Let's take a break.
22:44Welcome back.
22:46This is a very interesting conversation.
22:48I can see into your mind
22:50that there is a little planning
22:52going on.
22:54Even the people of Islamabad
22:56do not know what to do.
22:58I know a lot of people.
23:00People have been discussing for the past 2-3 days.
23:02You said that multiple activities
23:04are planned.
23:06Are you planning to shut down
23:08the whole of Pakistan?
23:10Will there be a call
23:12for the people of Lahore
23:14and other cities?
23:16Kashif, the whole of Pakistan
23:18is closed right now.
23:20What is the need to close it?
23:22The government of the time
23:24has done a great favor.
23:26What activities
23:28do you want to do?
23:30We will go on a picnic.
23:32We will reach there.
23:34I hope that our presence
23:36will pave the way
23:38towards negotiations
23:40and dialogue.
23:42We will sit down and
23:44resolve the matter peacefully.
23:46Those who have the right
23:48will get it.
23:50That is the only way to proceed further.
23:52As you said and as I said,
23:54constitution and the rule of law
23:56that flows from it.
23:58This is what should be dominated.
24:00You have to run the country
24:02according to this.
24:04It is not right to be against
24:06or in favor of anyone.
24:08This will have to end in this country.
24:10What is your success rate?
24:12How do you define success?
24:14Ideally speaking,
24:16our three demands
24:18will be fulfilled.
24:20But if you come to the negotiating table
24:22and a meaningful discussion
24:24starts, it will define
24:26the success rate to a great extent.
24:28I feel that
24:30when the discussion starts,
24:32the chances of
24:34a solution increase.
24:36We don't want to come here
24:38to fight.
24:40We don't have any guns.
24:42There are no weapons.
24:44There are no militants in the health committee.
24:46The government is press-conferencing
24:48that one constable
24:50has died.
24:52Four police helicopters
24:54have been injured.
24:56It is getting rough.
24:58Tell me,
25:00you have all this.
25:02The government is saying
25:04that many people are giving
25:06your requests.
25:08Do you know who is giving such requests?
25:10The government should
25:12tell us the names of the people
25:14and help us a little.
25:16According to me,
25:18no one in this kind of protest
25:20will want to ruin
25:22their political career.
25:2427 political corpses
25:26are still roaming around.
25:28They have been rejected by the public.
25:30There are some more who became the rats
25:32and jumped out into a raging sea.
25:34They are also now
25:36sitting on our doorstep
25:38and begging.
25:40No one will want to ruin their political career.
25:42These are the times of Mr. Khan.
25:44These are the times of Mr. Khan's party.
25:46They will not let go.
25:48The condition of the party is such
25:50that your chief minister was not
25:52allowed to get out of the car.
25:54This is a matter of credibility.
25:56Your leadership is very big.
25:58Your workers do not trust
26:00your leadership.
26:02Our workers
26:04are the first party in the history of Pakistan
26:06which is virtually a party of people.
26:08Otherwise, people
26:10would not have come out of the car.
26:12Until now, people have been told
26:14by big political stalwarts
26:16whether they are Sharifs or Bhuttos
26:18or Zardaris, but they have not come out.
26:20They have never been able to gather like this.
26:22This is a matter of trust in the personality
26:24of that person whose name is Imran Khan.
26:26It has been almost 16 months
26:28since he has been imprisoned.
26:30He has been imprisoned for no reason.
26:32I don't know whose ego this is.
26:34I feel that whoever has an ego,
26:36whoever it is,
26:38they want to think of this country.
26:40Last two questions.
26:42I think we should go towards solving
26:44the problems.
26:46It cannot go on like this that
26:48every day Islamabad is closed
26:50and the city is closed.
26:52Can we go to Adiala and protest?
26:54Is that an option?
26:56You must have seen on social media
26:58that many people have been demanding
27:00for a long time that why don't you
27:02protest in front of Adiala?
27:04But we do not want to take the situation
27:06seriously.
27:08But the passion in the people,
27:10the intensity with which this
27:12demand is coming,
27:14it is possible that at some point
27:16people will lose control and this
27:18will happen.
27:20But our party has no system,
27:22no inclination that we will
27:24protest in front of Adiala.
27:26So now there is no need to go
27:28in front of Adiala.
27:30Thank you very much.
27:32Rauf Hassan was with us.
27:34Mr. Azhar Kiani is present.
27:36He is a member of the National Assembly
27:38of Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
27:40Mr. Bilal, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
27:42Assalam-o-Alaikum, Kashif Bhai.
27:44Mr. Bilal, the situation that we
27:46are seeing is not good for this
27:48country, its people, its politics
27:50and its democracy.
27:52If there is a closure,
27:54will there be a solution?
27:56Will there be a way to
27:58take this issue towards a solution?
28:00Does the government even think
28:02that this can happen?
28:04Bismillah-ur-Rehman-ur-Rahim.
28:06Kashif Sahib, thank you very much
28:08for inviting me to your show.
28:10Look, I think that the situation
28:12that we are in today,
28:14no one will say that it should happen.
28:16But unfortunately,
28:18when one side
28:20gets stuck on one thing
28:22that we have to take this path,
28:24then the government also
28:26has no other way
28:28than to take steps
28:30to resist it,
28:32to nullify it,
28:34to preserve law and order,
28:36and to continue
28:38the economy and order.
28:40So you are right in saying that
28:42this situation should not happen,
28:44but the situation always
28:46gets out of hand.
28:48And even if there is a political
28:50problem, if one party, in this case
28:52PTI, does not have a political
28:54attitude, then look,
28:56the state has to do what it has to do
28:58Tell me,
29:00in the first segment,
29:02I was talking to Tariq-e-Insaaf,
29:04but I also said in the opening
29:06that both are statements,
29:08on the one hand,
29:10it is the statement of the
29:12Intishari Party,
29:14on the other hand,
29:16it is the statement of the
29:18Intishari Party,
29:20on the other hand,
29:22it is the statement of the
29:24Intishari Party,
29:26on the other hand,
29:28it is the statement of the
29:30Intishari Party,
29:32on the other hand,
29:34it is the statement of the
29:36Intishari Party,
29:38on the other hand,
29:40it is the statement of the
29:42Intishari Party,
29:44on the other hand,
29:46it is the statement of the
29:48Intishari Party,
29:50on the other hand,
29:52it is the statement of the
29:54Intishari Party,
29:56on the other hand,
29:58it is the statement of the
30:00Intishari Party,
30:02on the other hand,
30:04it is the statement of the
30:06Intishari Party,
30:08on the other hand,
30:10it is the statement of the
30:12Intishari Party,
30:14on the other hand,
30:16it is the statement of the
30:18Intishari Party,
30:20on the other hand,
30:22it is the statement of the
30:24Intishari Party,
30:26on the other hand,
30:28it is the statement of the
30:30Intishari Party,
30:32on the other hand,
30:34it is the statement of the
30:36Intishari Party,
30:38on the other hand,
30:40it is the statement of the
30:42Intishari Party,
30:44on the other hand,
30:46it is the statement of the
30:48Intishari Party,
30:50on the other hand,
30:52it is the statement of the
30:54Intishari Party,
30:56on the other hand,
30:58it is the statement of the
31:00Intishari Party,
31:02on the other hand,
31:04it is the statement of the
31:06Intishari Party,
31:08on the other hand,
31:10it is the statement of the
31:12Intishari Party,
31:14on the other hand,
31:16it is the statement of the
31:18Intishari Party,
31:20on the other hand,
31:22it is the statement of the
31:24Intishari Party,
31:26on the other hand,
31:28it is the statement of the
31:30Intishari Party,
31:32on the other hand,
31:34it is the statement of the
31:36Intishari Party,
31:38on the other hand,
31:40it is the statement of the
31:42Intishari Party,
31:44on the other hand,
31:46it is the statement of the
31:48Intishari Party,
31:50on the other hand,
31:52it is the statement of the
31:54Intishari Party,
31:56on the other hand,
31:58it is the statement of the
32:00Intishari Party,
32:02on the other hand,
32:04it is the statement of the
32:06Intishari Party,
32:08on the other hand,
32:10it is the statement of the
32:12Intishari Party,
32:14on the other hand,
32:16it is the statement of the
32:18Intishari Party,
32:20on the other hand,
32:22it is the statement of the
32:24Intishari Party,
32:26on the other hand,
32:28it is the statement of the
32:30Intishari Party,
32:32on the other hand,
32:34it is the statement of the
32:36Intishari Party,
32:38on the other hand,
32:40it is the statement of the
32:42Intishari Party,
32:44on the other hand,
32:46it is the statement of the
32:48Intishari Party,
32:50on the other hand,
32:52it is the statement of the
32:54Intishari Party,
32:56on the other hand,
32:58it is the statement of the
33:00Intishari Party,
33:02on the other hand,
33:04it is the statement of the
33:06Intishari Party,
33:08on the other hand,
33:10it is the statement of the
33:12Intishari Party,
33:14on the other hand,
33:16it is the statement of the
33:18Intishari Party,
33:20on the other hand,
33:22it is the statement of the
33:24Intishari Party,
33:26on the other hand,
33:28it is the statement of the
33:30Intishari Party,
33:32on the other hand,
33:34it is the statement of the
33:36Intishari Party,
33:38on the other hand,
33:40it is the statement of the
33:42Intishari Party,
33:44on the other hand,
33:46it is the statement of the
33:48Intishari Party,
33:50on the other hand,
33:52it is the statement of the
33:54Intishari Party,
33:56on the other hand,
33:58it is the statement of the
34:00Intishari Party,
34:02on the other hand,
34:04it is the statement of the
34:06Intishari Party,
34:08on the other hand,
34:10it is the statement of the
34:12Intishari Party,
34:14on the other hand,
34:16it is the statement of the
34:18Intishari Party,
34:20on the other hand,
34:22it is the statement of the
34:24Intishari Party,
34:26on the other hand,
34:28it is the statement of the
34:30Intishari Party,
34:32on the other hand,
34:34it is the statement of the
34:36Intishari Party,
34:38on the other hand,
34:40it is the statement of the
34:42Intishari Party,
34:44on the other hand,
34:46it is the statement of the
34:48Intishari Party,
34:50on the other hand,
34:52it is the statement of the
34:54Intishari Party,
34:56on the other hand,
34:58it is the statement of the
35:00Intishari Party,
35:02on the other hand,
35:04it is the statement of the
35:06Intishari Party,
35:08on the other hand,
35:10it is the statement of the
35:12Intishari Party,
35:14on the other hand,
35:16it is the statement of the
35:18Intishari Party,
35:20on the other hand,
35:22it is the statement of the
35:24Intishari Party,
35:26on the other hand,
35:28it is the statement of the
35:30Intishari Party,
35:32on the other hand,
35:34it is the statement of the
35:36Intishari Party,
35:38on the other hand,
35:40it is the statement of the
35:42Intishari Party,
35:44on the other hand,
35:46it is the statement of the
35:48Intishari Party,
35:50on the other hand,
35:52it is the statement of the
35:54Intishari Party,
35:56on the other hand,
35:58it is the statement of the
36:00Intishari Party,
36:02on the other hand,
36:04it is the statement of the
36:06Intishari Party,
36:08on the other hand,
36:10it is the statement of the
36:12Intishari Party,
36:14on the other hand,
36:16it is the statement of the
36:18Intishari Party,
36:20on the other hand,
36:22it is the statement of the
36:24Intishari Party,
36:26on the other hand,
36:28it is the statement of the
36:30Intishari Party,
36:32on the other hand,
36:34it is the statement of the
36:36Intishari Party,
36:38on the other hand,
36:40it is the statement of the
36:42Intishari Party,
36:44on the other hand,
36:46it is the statement of the
36:48Intishari Party,
36:50on the other hand,
36:52it is the statement of the
36:54Intishari Party,
36:56on the other hand,
36:58it is the statement of the
37:00Intishari Party,
37:02on the other hand,
37:04it is the statement of the
37:06Intishari Party,
37:08on the other hand,
37:10it is the statement of the
37:12Intishari Party,
37:14on the other hand,
37:16it is the statement of the
37:18Intishari Party,
37:20on the other hand,
37:22it is the statement of the
37:24Intishari Party,
37:26on the other hand,
37:28it is the statement of the
37:30Intishari Party,
37:32on the other hand,
37:34it is the statement of the
37:36Intishari Party,
37:38on the other hand,
37:40it is the statement of the
37:42Intishari Party,
37:44on the other hand,
37:46it is the statement of the
37:48Intishari Party,
37:50on the other hand,
37:52it is the statement of the
37:54Intishari Party,
37:56on the other hand,
37:58it is the statement of the
38:00Intishari Party,
38:02on the other hand,
38:04it is the statement of the
38:06Intishari Party,
38:08on the other hand,
38:10it is the statement of the
38:12Intishari Party,
38:14on the other hand,
38:16it is the statement of the
38:18Intishari Party,
38:20on the other hand,
38:22it is the statement of the
38:24Intishari Party,
38:26on the other hand,
38:28it is the statement of the
38:30Intishari Party,
38:32on the other hand,
38:34it is the statement of the
38:36Intishari Party,
38:38on the other hand,
38:40it is the statement of the
38:42Intishari Party,
38:44on the other hand,
38:46it is the statement of the
38:48Intishari Party,
38:50on the other hand,
38:52it is the statement of the
38:54Intishari Party,
38:56on the other hand,
38:58it is the statement of the
39:00Intishari Party,
39:02on the other hand,
39:04it is the statement of the
39:06Intishari Party,
39:08on the other hand,
39:10it is the statement of the
39:12Intishari Party,
39:14on the other hand,
39:16it is the statement of the
39:18Intishari Party,
39:20on the other hand,
39:22it is the statement of the
39:24Intishari Party,
39:26on the other hand,
39:28it is the statement of the
39:30Intishari Party,
39:32on the other hand,
39:34it is the statement of the
39:36Intishari Party,
39:38on the other hand,
39:40it is the statement of the
39:42Intishari Party,
39:44on the other hand,
39:46it is the statement of the
39:48Intishari Party.