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- Kamran Akmal (Former Cricketer)
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00:00In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, Peace be upon you.
00:18After the 24th, for the first time, Imran Khan's wife met him.
00:24Last night, there was a very angry tweet by his wife,
00:28which summarized that the party leaders are being allowed to meet.
00:32We were not allowed to meet today, we were stopped.
00:35Even today, according to them, they were stopped with great difficulty.
00:39And then a judge's protocol was going on,
00:42he got into the car and somehow reached there, and then somehow met.
00:46Three or four developments have taken place,
00:48from which it seems very interesting,
00:50that there was also an impression on social media,
00:54that as if Imran Khan is not being properly briefed,
00:58from the side of Arrester Gauhar,
01:00or as if Imran Khan is not being properly informed about the events,
01:03it seems that perhaps there is no truth in those matters.
01:08For example, today Imran Khan's account tweeted that
01:11today I have been told that the events have been like this,
01:15in this way.
01:17For example, you see this conversation of Areema Khan Sahiba,
01:20in which she is telling that what has happened to Imran Khan,
01:23so Imran Khan became very surprised.
01:25Now these next sentences are mine, not his.
01:28As if Imran Khan is being told for the first time,
01:30as if no one has told him yesterday.
01:32Now see what Areema Sahiba said.
01:34A lot of things have happened to Imran Khan,
01:38which is called the Islamabad Massacre,
01:41a lot of information was given about it.
01:45Imran Khan was in a lot of shock,
01:48I mean he was in a lot of shock,
01:50he kept asking repeatedly, what are you talking about?
01:53Even if there was any doubt in this,
01:55the journalists there tell that when we asked Imran Khan,
01:58he said in response to the question,
02:00that Gauhar sahib,
02:02either he has no idea what has happened to our people,
02:06or because he was not there, he has no idea,
02:08this is what Imran Khan also said.
02:10Another very interesting development is also that,
02:13contrary to the general impression,
02:15now it seems that,
02:17earlier it was thought that,
02:20Khan sahib also said that Sangjani will sit,
02:23the party also agreed that Sangjani will sit,
02:25there was a Bushra Bibi who was disrespectful,
02:27that she should go to D-Chowk,
02:29contrary to the opinion of Khan sahib and the entire party.
02:32But now the question has arisen,
02:34that is it contrary to this?
02:36Because yesterday Ali Zafar sahib said,
02:41that Khan sahib said that Bushra Bibi did absolutely right,
02:44that she should go to D-Chowk,
02:46if Sangjani would have gone, we would have been trapped.
02:48And today also Khan sahib said in response to a question,
02:51that Bushra Bibi did absolutely right,
02:53and did according to my instructions.
02:55So what is the development of all this?
02:57One is this situation,
02:59and then there are many other things.
03:01Today, Maryam Bibi has also given a very harsh statement,
03:04regarding the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
03:06Where are all these matters going?
03:08We talk about it,
03:10she is present with us,
03:12She is a member of the National Assembly of PTI,
03:16Mr. Sher Afzal Marwat sahib.
03:18Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
03:20Assalam-o-Alaikum.
03:22How are you?
03:24Sir, I am fine.
03:26Thank you very much for your time.
03:28Don't you think it is a little irritating for you,
03:30that this topic makes headlines every day,
03:34that what was the truth,
03:36and what was not the truth.
03:38And for valid reasons, if I may say.
03:40See, if this tweet comes from Mr. Khan's account,
03:42which will make him think that
03:44he will find out what happened today.
03:46If he keeps talking to the journalists,
03:48they will say that maybe Gauhar did not have any idea.
03:50Or Alima Bibi will say, which I just told you,
03:52that he was surprised,
03:54even though it was not the first meeting.
03:56So obviously, it will make headlines.
03:58So what is it?
04:00Gauhar sahib is not able to communicate properly.
04:02Because you know, it is an open secret,
04:04that many of your party's employees,
04:06are being taunted,
04:08and they are not able to tell Mr. Khan the situation.
04:10And even after coming out,
04:12they are not able to tell what Mr. Khan said.
04:14So is this speculation close to reality?
04:16What is it?
04:18Thank you very much.
04:20I think, for a long time,
04:22since Mr. Khan has been banned,
04:24I have been a witness to many meetings,
04:26of Mr. Khan's instructions.
04:28I used to come out and tell.
04:30I used to tell myself.
04:32Then these duties,
04:34at different times,
04:36were being fulfilled.
04:38The first thing is that,
04:40Gauhar sahib,
04:42or the front leadership,
04:44of Pakistan Chaharikin sahib,
04:46of the first year,
04:48to expect from them,
04:50that in Mr. Khan's statement,
04:52they do some treachery,
04:54or from their side,
04:56they do some fabrication.
04:58This is not possible.
05:00It is possible that,
05:02under pressure,
05:04many decisions,
05:06were not told,
05:08when they should have been told.
05:10But,
05:12it is not possible that,
05:14on an extremely important issue,
05:16like D-Chowk and Sanjani,
05:18someone makes a wrong statement.
05:20Especially, Mr. Gauhar sahib.
05:22And,
05:24I,
05:26personally, feel that,
05:28Mr. Khan,
05:30at one time,
05:32was ready to give an interview,
05:34to give a video message,
05:36but, because,
05:38Gauhar sahib did not have a mobile,
05:40and the mobile was of the government people,
05:42and Mr. Khan was afraid,
05:44that he might edit it somewhere.
05:46At that time,
05:48Mr. Khan,
05:50This is obvious,
05:52he is saying this based on information.
05:54No, this is not information.
05:56Actually, Gauhar sahib,
05:58told me the whole story himself.
06:00I was a part of that delegation.
06:04But, because,
06:06I was afraid that,
06:08if Mr. Khan does not agree,
06:10then they will arrest me.
06:12And then,
06:14I will have to face the authorities,
06:16that this arrest was an order.
06:18So, I did not go to them,
06:20with this kind of intention.
06:22But, this is the reality,
06:24because, as soon as they came back,
06:26and the call was made,
06:28and it was told,
06:30that this is what Mr. Khan said.
06:32And then,
06:34this,
06:36the statement that Mr. Khan has given today,
06:38has certainly benefited from it.
06:40That is,
06:42a thought was developing in the party,
06:44and even I,
06:46when Mr. Gauhar and Mr. Saif,
06:48both gave this statement,
06:50that Sanjani,
06:52has been given this right,
06:54that if you think it is appropriate,
06:56then you can arrest me.
06:58Even I was thinking,
07:00that maybe,
07:02if this statement is not accepted,
07:04then it is unfair.
07:06But, now,
07:08in this statement of Mr. Khan,
07:10the position of Bushra Bibi,
07:12has been given a lot of importance.
07:14And, it has been mitigated.
07:16And, basically,
07:18they have openly told,
07:20that their position,
07:22was absolutely,
07:24correct.
07:26I agree.
07:28And, this automatically means,
07:30that Bushra Sahiba,
07:32and Mr. Gauhar,
07:34and Mr. Saif,
07:36have different positions.
07:38So, the fact that one's position has been mitigated,
07:40means that the other's position has been weakened.
07:42Because, both statements are not correct.
07:44One is saying,
07:46that Mr. Khan said,
07:48that Sanjani should go,
07:50but Bibi did not agree.
07:52So, the position of Bushra Bibi,
07:54has definitely been weakened.
07:56I think,
07:58that Mr. Khan has given a very correct statement.
08:00Because, we did not go to Sanjani.
08:02And, we went to D-Chowk.
08:04So, that is why,
08:06it was obvious,
08:08that Sanjani was right,
08:10and Bibi was not.
08:12So, in these circumstances,
08:14Mr. Khan's statement,
08:16was absolutely correct.
08:18So, it is possible,
08:20that,
08:22Mr. Marwar,
08:24it is obvious,
08:26that the situation at D-Chowk,
08:28is not the same as it is now.
08:30The market is not hot at D-Chowk,
08:32and there is no firing.
08:34So, if two more deaths,
08:36have been reported,
08:38then it is very easy for you,
08:40to further tell me,
08:42that these two deaths,
08:44and their names,
08:46and their whereabouts,
08:48I can tell you,
08:50the names of all the injured,
08:52and all the dead.
09:00I am telling you,
09:02that today,
09:04with regards to their passing away,
09:06I will tell you,
09:08the names of the martyrs,
09:10from Idr Ali Mardan,
09:12Ilyas Iqbad,
09:14Ahmed Wali Pashin Quetta,
09:16Abdul Qadir Rashid Qila Abdullah,
09:18Abdul Manaan Ibtabaad,
09:20Tariq Khan Shangla,
09:22Muhammad Ali Charsada,
09:24Muhammad Alias Aurangzeb Ibtabaad,
09:26Malik Mubeen Aurangzeb Ibtabaad,
09:28Muhammad Alias Ibtabaad,
09:30Tajuddin Khanmaye Zilla Charsada,
09:34These are the same names,
09:36that Sheikh Waqas told us,
09:38in this conference.
09:40Today, two names have been added.
09:42These are Tajuddin and Zahoor.
09:44Zahoor Isakhil is from Mianwali.
09:48You are saying that,
09:50according to the PTI,
09:52the number of martyrs has increased
09:54from 12 to 14.
09:56Is that correct?
09:58Zahoor Isakhil Bakshipur Peshawar,
10:00is Isakhil Hamna,
10:02he is from Mianwali.
10:04These two people,
10:06and these 14 people,
10:08we have the list of the people,
10:10but they are not yet the people,
10:12they are big and small.
10:14Therefore,
10:16it cannot be said,
10:18that this is the final list.
10:20Alright.
10:22If you can show us,
10:24what Atta Tarar,
10:26according to the PTI,
10:28says about these dead bodies,
10:30what he has said today,
10:32so that we can take a response
10:34and move forward.
10:36The false statement,
10:38that why was the bullet fired,
10:40is given for this.
10:42Bring a video,
10:44in which security agencies,
10:46law enforcement agencies,
10:48police, rangers,
10:50army, any authority,
10:52is firing on the protesters.
10:54One video.
10:56And I would like to say this in English,
10:58for the foreign media,
11:00there is not a single video,
11:02in which any law enforcement agency officer,
11:04or any personnel can be seen,
11:06directly firing upon protesters.
11:08There is no video evidence,
11:10because this incident never took place.
11:38There is no logic or logic in this.
11:40And the time of the night,
11:42is made of the night.
11:44And,
11:46you are standing on the roof,
11:48and you have taken positions,
11:50so that someone can come and
11:52make a video of you.
11:54And this video is certainly circulating,
11:56that the sniper,
11:58Bardar,
12:00picked up the sniper rifle,
12:02climbed the stairs,
12:04and is going to the roof of the building.
12:06The police are going in front of them.
12:08And,
12:10there is further information,
12:12that the roof,
12:14the road,
12:16of D-chowk,
12:18is occupied by both the buildings.
12:20And the bodies,
12:22according to the legal report,
12:24the bullet entrance is of a very large size.
12:26It is a size of
12:2830 bores,
12:30when it enters the body.
12:32It is a classical proof.
12:34The bullet of the sniper,
12:36has a fast velocity,
12:38and it punctures the entrance.
12:40So, all the bodies,
12:42it is common that the entrance
12:44is of a large size.
12:46So, the bullets that were shot,
12:48were shot by the snipers.
12:50And,
12:52your media friends,
12:54international media,
12:56all these videos,
12:58they say that they have taken one video.
13:00Now, all these funeral videos are being compiled.
13:02And, I think,
13:04its documentary is being made.
13:06And, it will be shared with the public and the world.
13:08Absolutely.
13:10And, how it will be shown,
13:12that you have killed.
13:14And, it is the duty of the state,
13:16that it should at least tell the truth
13:18about the loss,
13:20there is no war propaganda,
13:22that we have killed our own people,
13:24in the name of the enemy country.
13:26So, at least,
13:28it should tell how many people have died.
13:30Now, we are lying about the bodies.
13:32They have made fun of us.
13:34Our heirs,
13:36of the martyrs,
13:38they have made fun of them.
13:40They say that the bodies have been brought up.
13:42And, they are strange, poor,
13:44and extremely illiterate.
13:46And, sir, after all this,
13:48what do you think,
13:50will it be easy to call again soon,
13:52due to the escalation,
13:54or it will be a little difficult,
13:56due to the fear and the morale of the workers,
13:58in your opinion?
14:00I think that,
14:02in reality, the morale is not down.
14:04Morale?
14:06Yes, the morale is definitely higher
14:08than the limit.
14:10So, if at this time,
14:12there is any talk of a call,
14:14then I think it will be dangerous.
14:16Because, people,
14:18I don't think that,
14:20they will get their necks cut easily.
14:22In Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
14:24there is another,
14:26which is spreading a sense,
14:28that the Islamabad police
14:30have crossed the limit.
14:32On the basis of language,
14:34due to prejudice,
14:36every person's life has been ruined.
14:38Today, a video is being circulated,
14:40I have also sent it to your producer,
14:42maybe you have seen it.
14:44In that, it is being said that,
14:46anyone who is polishing shoes,
14:48who is sitting on the stove,
14:50the poor people who are ready,
14:52all of them have been put in these cases.
14:54And, this is in the case of terrorism.
14:56And, wherever,
14:58any person is found,
15:00even if he is coming in a car,
15:02this is spreading a lot of tension.
15:04And, the question you asked,
15:06I think that,
15:08if we protest again,
15:10then we will be able to do it
15:12in January.
15:14We will come and motivate the public.
15:16And, we will definitely protest.
15:18But, I think that,
15:20this month of December,
15:22the people who are against leadership and workers,
15:24will be wasted in this.
15:26And, maybe this is the
15:28one more card that Khan Sahib is talking about.
15:30Today, Aleema Sahiba said that, there is one card.
15:32Khan Sahib said that, I have one more card.
15:34Khan has millions of people.
15:36Khan does not have one card,
15:38he has many cards.
15:40And, the people have never
15:42disappointed Khan.
15:44Look, the whole world has seen that,
15:46people have lost their lives,
15:48but Khan's ears and ears have not moved back.
15:50But, the card that Khan has pointed to,
15:52I think that,
15:54the next protest will be
15:56in Mulgir.
15:58And, the second one in D-Chowk,
16:00its very immediate,
16:02immediate effects
16:04will be seen in the
16:06next protest.
16:08When this time,
16:10not only Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's caravan will leave,
16:12the whole of Pakistan will leave
16:14to show their resentment.
16:16And, let me tell you one more thing,
16:18if you had stayed for 120-130 days,
16:20then our voice
16:22could not have been
16:24raised as much
16:26as they themselves
16:28had raised their feet.
16:30And, you understand,
16:32despite all these
16:34obstacles,
16:36it was obvious,
16:38that it was difficult to leave.
16:40But, still, do you think that Punjab's leadership
16:42could have performed better?
16:44I think that
16:46the way
16:48they,
16:50the government,
16:52the police,
16:54and the authorities,
16:56together,
16:58made a strategy,
17:00that strategy
17:02should be praised.
17:04Instead of saying that
17:06there was a weakness in our leadership,
17:08they used all the means,
17:10all the energy,
17:12all the resources,
17:14to make sure
17:16that people could not leave,
17:18and closed all the small roads.
17:20There are many reasons
17:22behind this.
17:24But, I think that
17:26if there is a protest in the future,
17:28then the way the caravans
17:30came from KP,
17:32we will try to get 2-3 central leaders
17:34to go there,
17:36and we will try to get a lot of them from Lahore,
17:38so that they can start
17:40their journey from where
17:42we will start our journey.
17:44Correct. Sir,
17:46do you have any information about Imran Khan's Twitter account?
17:48Who is running it?
17:50And, who is running it?
17:52If I remember correctly,
17:54you may have expressed some surprise about it in the past.
17:56Because, sometimes, his statement
17:58from the jail and the tone in the Twitter account,
18:00are a little different.
18:02Even today, his Twitter account is under discussion.
18:04Two questions. Do you know who is running it?
18:06And, is it running in the right way?
18:08Is it doing a favor to Khan's narrative?
18:10Or, sometimes,
18:12it creates more problems?
18:14Look,
18:16one thing is confirmed that
18:18Khan himself is not running his Twitter account.
18:20Obviously.
18:22And, the second thing is that
18:24whoever is running it,
18:26I have an idea who is running it.
18:28But, I think
18:30that they are running it
18:32according to their intelligence.
18:34Sometimes, there is a mistake.
18:36And,
18:38as you may remember,
18:40there was a video
18:42in which the people of the government
18:44made a lot of blunders.
18:46But, let me tell you that
18:48the thinking
18:50which should be political
18:52according to the circumstances,
18:54the Twitter account
18:56is running
18:58according to Khan's mindset.
19:00Khan's mindset
19:02is that
19:04it is not right.
19:06It is a matter of
19:08aggression.
19:10So, the Twitter account
19:12is running according to
19:14Khan's mindset.
19:16I can't say
19:18that it is right.
19:20But, they try
19:22to run it.
19:24You said that you have an idea
19:26who is running it.
19:28If you don't want to tell us,
19:30you are mistaken.
19:32If you don't want to tell us,
19:34you are mistaken.
19:36If you don't want to tell us,
19:38you are mistaken.
19:40If you don't want to tell us,
19:42you are mistaken.
19:44If you don't want to tell us,
19:46you are mistaken.
19:48If you don't want to tell us,
19:50you are mistaken.
19:52If you don't want to tell us,
19:54you are mistaken.
19:56If you don't want to tell us,
19:58you are mistaken.
20:00If you don't want to tell us,
20:02you are mistaken.
20:04If you don't want to tell us,
20:06you are mistaken.
20:08If you don't want to tell us,
20:10you are mistaken.
20:12If you don't want to tell us,
20:14you are mistaken.
20:16If you don't want to tell us,
20:18you are mistaken.
20:20If you don't want to tell us,
20:22you are mistaken.
20:24If you don't want to tell us,
20:26you are mistaken.
20:28If you don't want to tell us,
20:30you are mistaken.
20:32If you don't want to tell us,
20:34you are mistaken.
20:36If you don't want to tell us,
20:38you are mistaken.
20:40If you don't want to tell us,
20:42you are mistaken.
20:44If you don't want to tell us,
20:46you are mistaken.
20:48If you don't want to tell us,
20:50you are mistaken.
20:52If you don't want to tell us,
20:54you are mistaken.
20:56If you don't want to tell us,
20:58you are mistaken.
21:00If you don't want to tell us,
21:02you are mistaken.
21:04If you don't want to tell us,
21:06you are mistaken.
21:08If you don't want to tell us,
21:10you are mistaken.
21:12If you don't want to tell us,
21:14you are mistaken.
21:16If you don't want to tell us,
21:18you are mistaken.
21:20If you don't want to tell us,
21:22you are mistaken.
21:24If you don't want to tell us,
21:26you are mistaken.
21:28If you don't want to tell us,
21:30you are mistaken.
21:32If you don't want to tell us,
21:34you are mistaken.
21:36If you don't want to tell us,
21:38you are mistaken.
21:40If you don't want to tell us,
21:42you are mistaken.
21:44If you don't want to tell us,
21:46you are mistaken.
21:48If you don't want to tell us,
21:50you are mistaken.
21:52We don't do hypocrisy.
21:54What is in our hearts,
21:56is in our tongue.
21:58And this is who we are.
22:00And this is what we will say.
22:02It may have a bad or good result.
22:04These are the things that Allah has written
22:06in our destiny.
22:08No one else cares.
22:10Thank you very much.
22:12We will come back after a break.
22:14We will come back after a break.
22:16We will come back after a break.
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31:36I think PCB has taken the right approach, because it has been going on for a long time that we go and they don't come.
31:43And even now, it's been said that if we want to go towards hybrid, then let's go towards hybrid.
31:50If there is a match there too, then that too will be on the hybrid model.
31:53What is your opinion? Is it the right approach? Is PCB standing in the right place?
31:59Look, Waseem bhai, what Shahid bhai and Vivek have said,
32:03this can be better explained by the ICC contract and the internal news.
32:08As far as cricket is concerned, I think since the PCB has been controversial,
32:14from the time of the Champions Trophy till today,
32:17they have given a very sensible statement, they have taken this case with a lot of maturity.
32:23And the statement that the chairman gave 2-3 days ago,
32:27the program that has been kept ahead of the ICC for the next 3 years,
32:32I think it is a very good program.
32:35With this, cricket may get better or completely removed.
32:39Now, this is not a matter of money, it is a matter of respect.
32:44Now, we have gone to India 3-4 times.
32:47Even though the situation in India is so bad,
32:50now it is India's job to come to play the Champions Trophy.
32:55And I don't think the chairman will remove the hybrid model from the stance taken by Pakistan.
33:01And I think they are trying their best not to put this Champions Trophy on a hybrid model.
33:06Pakistan is hosting, rights have been given, and it should be in Pakistan.
33:10Look at the statement of Saurabh Ganguly, look at Sehwag,
33:14how much love they have received.
33:16The whole team has come 3-4 times.
33:18We have gone 4-5 times.
33:20We have received a lot of love and affection.
33:22It is only politics that is being played when the Indian team has to visit Pakistan.
33:27So, this is not a good sign.
33:29I think, let sports remain sports.
33:31If politics is removed a little, it will be better for both countries.
33:34The people who will meet, will come, will enjoy hospitality.
33:38There is nothing better than this, there is no moment.
33:41The news that is coming, if it is true, and you are telling me,
33:44I am sure it will be closer to reality,
33:46that there is a suggestion that if we have to go on a hybrid, then we will go on a hybrid.
33:51But when there will be an event at your place, we will go on a hybrid.
33:54This is not a good suggestion,
33:56because it does not spoil the tournament,
33:59the financial interests are not compromised,
34:01and there is a face-saving, an honourable exit,
34:04which is given to the other side,
34:06that we did not go, but we compensated.
34:10I think this is a very reasonable, practical suggestion.
34:13We are not saying that we have become emotional,
34:15we have broken the table,
34:17that go, we don't go, do whatever you want.
34:19No, we have given honourable exit to the other side as well.
34:22Mr. Shahid.
34:23Absolutely, this is a practical solution.
34:26India has said that if it is a hybrid, then it will be a hybrid.
34:29You cannot fight the mic.
34:31Right now, it is a mic.
34:33According to the money, the broadcaster is also theirs,
34:35and their team is also very good.
34:37God willing, the team will be even better,
34:39but they will have to look down,
34:41and accommodate others as well.
34:43Every piece will not be accepted by India.
34:45Now, if Pakistan says that we will not go,
34:47then there is not much of a problem.
34:49If you are playing on a hybrid,
34:51and finally there is not much of a problem,
34:53as Vivek is saying,
34:55then one semi-final will be in Dubai,
34:57and one semi-final will be in Pakistan.
34:59This is the hybrid model.
35:01You are saying the hybrid model, not us.
35:03When there will be two teams,
35:05India will be waiting for India.
35:07The second or first semi-final will be in Pakistan.
35:09In case India does not come in the final,
35:11then the final will be in Lahore.
35:13Broadcast and logistics are not a big deal.
35:15This is not West Indies or Pakistan,
35:17where it will take 10-12 hours,
35:19and 12-15 hours of flight.
35:21It takes 1.5 hours,
35:23and you can come in peace.
35:25When one team is already here,
35:27then it will not be difficult to finalize.
35:29So, India will have to give a little to Pakistan.
35:31It is not like,
35:34Vivek, final word.
35:36As I said,
35:38both sides get a good position
35:40for domestic consumption,
35:42and sports are not being compromised.
35:47Vivek, can you hear me?
35:49I just want a final word from your side.
35:51This question was for me.
35:53I will only say one thing.
35:55I heard Kamran and Shahid.
35:57But I just differ one thing.
35:59This is not about politics.
36:01This is not about Pakistan.
36:03And this is not about Pakistani cricketers
36:05or Pakistan cricket fans.
36:07This whole issue is
36:09that in any way,
36:11Mohsin Naqvi Sahib
36:13and the people of PCB
36:15should get an honourable exit.
36:17I am just saying that
36:19Pakistan should get a chance
36:21to host the Champions Trophy
36:23after 24 years.
36:25Do it with pride.
36:27Do it well.
36:29There is no issue with that.
36:31There is no objection
36:33to the final match
36:35in Lahore.
36:37They are just afraid
36:39that the broadcasters
36:41can refuse.
36:43What is happening is
36:45a hybrid model,
36:47a fusion model,
36:49a partnership model.
36:51This is only trying
36:53to find a way out
36:55for Mr. Mohsin Naqvi.
36:57Pakistan has won 10 matches
36:59and 5 matches.
37:01We have to understand
37:03that if there is a vote
37:05on the ICC board,
37:07which always happens
37:09when it is deadlocked,
37:11then even the PCB knows
37:13where it is.
37:15There is a section
37:17even within the ICC
37:19and the BCCI
37:21that does not want
37:23the Pakistan Cricket Board
37:25to have a problem.
37:27They are trying.
37:29If it comes to voting
37:31and the proposal
37:33from the ICC
37:35to keep the Champions Trophy
37:37somewhere else,
37:39they do not want
37:41that to happen.
37:43Now they are saying
37:45to give us a way out
37:47and tell India to play
37:49on the hybrid model.
37:51If there is so much
37:53and the Pakistan Government
37:55says that we will not go to India
37:57in the T20 World Cup of 2026,
37:59let the Pakistan Cricket Board
38:01create that situation in 2026
38:03and then the ICC...
38:07I would not agree with this.
38:09It is not about
38:11getting an honourable exit.
38:13Otherwise, the PCB does not take
38:15a position because they know
38:17what will happen next.
38:19Let it come to that.
38:21I think this time it is not about sentiments, emotions.
38:23It is very realistic.