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"Opposition Protest Na Kare To Kya Rawal Dam Mein Chalang Laga Day....???" CH Ghulam Hussain's
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00:00As-Salaam-Alaikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program, today is the 14th of January,
00:15the day of Mangal.
00:16Dear viewers, for the past few days, there has been a lot of debate on the media in Pakistan,
00:21whether it is newspapers, TV channels or social media.
00:24There is a lot of debate on two topics.
00:29The first topic is negotiations.
00:31Will the negotiations that were put in place in Pakistan be put to an end?
00:37On the one hand, it is obvious that the government of the United Nations is present,
00:42and on the other hand, the people of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf are standing with their Charter of Demands.
00:48They are saying that they should listen to us, and these are our demands.
00:51If they do not listen to us, then after the 31st of January, this whole matter should end.
00:56On the other hand, there are some cases related to politics.
01:01You know that the Supreme Court has already passed its first ruling on the military courts that were formed on 9th of May.
01:08The Supreme Court has gone against it.
01:11And on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:16and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:21and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:26and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:31and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:36and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:41and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:44and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:49and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:54and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
01:59and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:04and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:09and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:12and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:17and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:22and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:27and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:32and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:37and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:42and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:47and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:52and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
02:57and on the basis of the daily, the questions that are being asked,
03:02He mentioned the Honda factory.
03:04The employees were protesting to raise their salaries,
03:09and their work was going on, and at the same time,
03:12they were recording their protest.
03:14They were recording it in the form of a protest.
03:17The Prime Minister, obviously, presented his experience.
03:23I went to Japan once, and it was the Honda factory.
03:27When I was passing by, I heard a loud noise.
03:31I said, what is this?
03:34Then I asked our hosts, and I remained silent.
03:38Then I went ahead, and I heard a loud noise.
03:41When I heard the third loud noise, I couldn't contain myself.
03:45I asked the director, what is going on?
03:48He said, these are the workers protesting.
03:53The work didn't stop.
03:55The production was going on, but they recorded their protest.
04:01Viewers, a while ago, the way the Prime Minister
04:04mentioned the loud noise,
04:08I think he forgot about it.
04:11I remember, during some kind of event,
04:14he said that the loud noise wasn't coming from the mouth,
04:17it was coming from the mouth.
04:19If we can keep that in front of you,
04:21then you can adopt any method that you think is appropriate.
04:24Obviously, it is a very civilized method.
04:26No one gets disturbed.
04:29When I went to Japan, it was in the 80s.
04:32I heard the loud noise, and then it stopped.
04:37Then I walked a few steps, and I heard the loud noise again.
04:42I was very surprised.
04:44The machines were working.
04:46When I heard the third loud noise,
04:48I asked my host, Mr. Director, what is this?
04:53He said, Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
04:56they are protesting here for their demands.
05:02Yesterday, the opposition,
05:04following the advice of the Prime Minister,
05:07protested.
05:09But the protest was very unbearable.
05:13The Minister of Defence from our Sialkot,
05:15Mr. Khawaja Asif,
05:17heard the loud noise.
05:19Mr. Khawaja Asif, Minister of Defence.
05:23Sir, I cannot hear anything.
05:26You have given permission,
05:28out of the way,
05:30and what is happening right now?
05:33How did they respond?
05:36You have extended the curfew,
05:38which was completely out of the way,
05:41with all due respect.
05:43This has never happened.
05:47If this happens in two minutes,
05:49in house order, then...
05:51I can't hear you, I can't hear him.
05:53I kept quiet.
05:54Then he went ahead.
05:55Then...
05:57If this happens in house order,
05:59then let's take a question.
06:01You order the house, I will respond.
06:06The work did not stop,
06:07but they recorded their protest.
06:11Mr. Khawaja Asif should not have stopped the work.
06:14He should have kept answering the questions.
06:17Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain is with us from Lahore.
06:20Mr. Haider Naqvi from Karachi.
06:22Hassan Ayyub from Islamabad is with me, as usual.
06:25Let's start with Mr. Chaudhary.
06:27Mr. Chaudhary,
06:28since you have old friends,
06:30and you have a connection with the Sharif family,
06:33especially Mr. Shabaz Sharif
06:35and Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
06:37So, according to me,
06:39they have given a very good,
06:41excellent way of protesting.
06:43So, if the opposition is protesting,
06:45and we have always seen that the opposition
06:47protests in the parliament,
06:49why did Mr. Khawaja Asif feel so bad?
06:55I mean,
06:56his voice is bad.
06:58Whatever he says,
07:00it sounds like music to me.
07:03Music to your ears.
07:05But,
07:06the Prime Minister has given a reference
07:09that he was doing work there,
07:11and he was also protesting.
07:13Here, no one wants to work,
07:15and no one is doing the protest properly.
07:19So, anyway,
07:20if the opposition does not want to protest,
07:23then what should they do?
07:25Should they jump into the river dam?
07:30Mr. Nagri,
07:31when Mr. Khawaja Asif came out,
07:33the reporter asked him,
07:35that there was a lot of protest in the house today,
07:39and a lot of harsh statements
07:41were given from one side to the other.
07:44So, keeping this in mind,
07:46do you see the discussions being successful?
07:49He said,
07:50no, no,
07:51this is all drama.
07:52And,
07:53I don't think that the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf people
07:56are serious about this kind of behavior,
07:58nor should their words be taken seriously.
08:00What will you say?
08:01Do you think that the way these discussions are taking place,
08:04the way there is a fight going on in the parliament,
08:07if we keep that in mind,
08:09will it be successful?
08:10Or,
08:11the environment we want,
08:12we don't see it being created,
08:13isn't it Mr. Nagri?
08:15Look,
08:16first of all,
08:17I would like to appreciate the Prime Minister.
08:19A Jamaat,
08:20for the past 20 years,
08:21has been doing this,
08:22the U-turn.
08:23Now,
08:24he has put it on U,
08:25so there's a little promotion.
08:27So,
08:28it's a good thing that the Prime Minister did this,
08:30it's commendable.
08:31Is this a promotion from the Prime Minister,
08:33or from the Jamaat,
08:34in your opinion?
08:35Let me talk to him.
08:36It's a promotion,
08:37it has gone further.
08:38It's now on O,
08:39from U.
08:40So,
08:41this is a good thing.
08:42Secondly,
08:43will the negotiations be successful or not,
08:45whatever is happening in the assembly?
08:46There should be more than this in the assembly.
08:48Because,
08:49assemblies are made for such protests,
08:51that you come and present your issue.
08:55Roads are not made because of this.
08:57Bazaars and cities are not made because of this.
08:59And,
09:00it's a good thing that,
09:01Tehreek-e-Insaab has come to the floor of the assembly,
09:03and is protesting there.
09:04And,
09:05if she protests more than this,
09:06then there's no fun in that.
09:07Thirdly,
09:08you asked if the negotiations are successful or not.
09:10So,
09:11the negotiations will only be successful,
09:12when Tehreek-e-Insaab will write down her demands.
09:14And,
09:15she will never write them down.
09:16What will she write down?
09:17That,
09:18our prisoners should be released.
09:19The names of the prisoners will be asked.
09:20When the names of the prisoners will be asked,
09:22first of all,
09:23Imran Khan's name will be asked.
09:24Of course,
09:25she is also a prisoner.
09:26And,
09:27when she will write that,
09:28Imran Khan should be released,
09:29then this is NRO.
09:30And,
09:31the government will say,
09:32yes,
09:33this is NRO.
09:34So,
09:35will Tehreek-e-Insaab make this mistake?
09:36She will never make a mistake.
09:37That's why,
09:38there is no question that,
09:39the negotiations have been successful.
09:40Maybe,
09:41tomorrow's third meeting
09:42will be the last meeting.
09:43Okay.
09:44Well,
09:45Hassan,
09:46obviously,
09:47the PTI has officially said that,
09:48our initial demands,
09:50we will write them down.
09:51On 9th May and 26th January,
09:53the Judicial Commission,
09:55and the release of the prisoners,
09:56obviously,
09:57we will write them down.
09:58And,
09:59regarding our prisoners,
10:00we are clearly saying that,
10:02their release...
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11:04You have extended the curfew which was completely out of the way.
11:09With all due respect.
11:10This has never happened before.
11:12Oooo.
11:13Oooo.
11:15If this happens in two minutes in house order then...
11:18I can't hear you.
11:19I can't hear him.
11:21I was silent.
11:22Then I went ahead.
11:23Oooo.
11:25Please wait for two minutes.
11:26If this happens in house order then we will take a questionnaire.
11:28You do house in order and I will answer.
11:31Ok.
11:33The work didn't stop.
11:34But they recorded their protest.
11:37Oooo.
11:40Excellent.
11:41Mr. Nagri is right.
11:42The protest should be like the parliament.
11:44Mr. Premchand.
11:45The story of the protest.
11:46Mr. Premchand.
11:47Even before this.
11:48The one in December.
11:49The one in 2024.
11:50Even before this.
11:51In an event.
11:52In an address.
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17:00Whether the people speak the truth and the truth is silence they are eitherapple or
17:02development I have counted everything
17:03I have counted everything
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17:20When there was a fight, when the jokes were about to reach a certain level, then one side of the government said that things are under control now, so there is no problem.
17:31And there was the same kind of confidence that they came and saw on the roads, they also did a demonstration, so nothing will happen now.
17:38But after that we saw, history has shown what happened.
17:41Now, the demands that Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf is placing, you consider it justified, and on the other hand, the government is saying that we also have to consult, we also need time.
17:52So, what do you think, who will be at a loss, who is at fault, and who is taking this forward in a non-serious manner?
18:03No, till now, the seriousness of the government will be seen, so we will say that their seriousness is very serious, and they want to do it.
18:13First, they did not meet, then they kept calling in the darkness of the night, on Sunday.
18:19Now, you are sitting there in Islamabad, you, Khawar Gohmat sahib, are outside your country.
18:26You also told the people of Pakistan that you have such a big show, such a big channel, and such good management.
18:35So, you are not informing the people of Pakistan, what forced you to give a ring around 2 in the morning,
18:44that when there was a commotion, that today is the day to meet, which was not even the day of the meetings,
18:51the Sunday is not of any jail person.
18:55So, till today, you have not given me a justification, that on the day of the Sunday,
19:00in what happiness, and where, and under what pressure, did you meet them,
19:06because 8 days have passed, and you have not given them a chance.
19:11One thing, now you tell me, what are their demands?
19:16One is that whatever the incidents are, they should have a worthy commission.
19:22So, what is the objection in this, that the government should have one?
19:25Number two, that their people, who they consider to be innocent, should be released.
19:31So, looking at their case-to-case basis, all those who are going to be released, should be released immediately.
19:36Those who are still on trial, will be appended, or those who can be bailed out.
19:42So, no such demand from the PTI, in my opinion, has not been made,
19:47that in a one and a half hour meeting, a leader of the opposition gets a call from the Prime Minister,
19:55and says that we are accepting both your demands, so now you go and do your house business locally.
20:03But if this is not your intention, I am going to many levels of negotiation,
20:08which I have told you many times, but there is no effect on you, Mr. Khawar.
20:12So, I am quiet. You saw that yesterday, I did not even talk for 3-4 minutes in the whole program.
20:17No, sir, it is obvious that Mr. Naqvi and Mr. Hassan have more information,
20:23so I give them more time. If I don't give them time, then you saw,
20:26in the middle, they say that you did not give me time, so I have to take care of that as well.
20:31Viewers, the steps that have been taken so far, by the government,
20:36they have declared Mazaqaradi Qiyam, good move.
20:39They made me meet Mr. Khan of the PTI committee,
20:42and what Mr. Chaudhary has said, Khilaf-e-Mamool, on Sunday,
20:45and their demand was to make us meet, so we were made to meet.
20:49After that, Al-Qadir Trust case, it is obvious, we were told that the decision is coming in the morning,
20:54but that decision has gone till 17th January.
20:57It is being told, yesterday we had the same discussion here,
21:01that there is a criminal in the jail, so why didn't he come?
21:04His wife, I don't know, due to fear of arrest, she did not want to come from KP,
21:07but we also saw that she was also present in front of Adela jail, at 11 o'clock.
21:11After that, yesterday, a very good development took place.
21:15For many months, there was a demand of the opposition,
21:18that Jadh Chaudhary, the senator in Lahore, his production order should be issued.
21:21His production order was issued by Chairman Senan, respected Yusuf Al-Ghalani,
21:28which is again a big development,
21:31and Chairman Senan, viewers, according to Pakistan's constitution,
21:34is considered a very important position.
21:37Now, today he had to be released.
21:40What happened was that he was not released from Lahore,
21:43he was not released from Lahore.
21:45We will talk to our reporter in Lahore,
21:47and our Deputy Bureau Chief, who is present in the parliament,
21:50we will know from him, what the senator will do in this regard,
21:53because he can also file a contempt bill,
21:56if any committee of the parliament,
21:58does not follow his order and direction.
22:01We will talk about this after the break.
22:06Yaar Muhammad, our correspondent is present with us from Lahore.
22:09Let's go to him, let's know what happened in Lahore.
22:11Thank you very much, Yaar Muhammad.
22:12Tell me, the production order was issued from here,
22:15by Chairman Senan,
22:17he signed it and agreed,
22:19so what was the reason,
22:21that the police of Lahore, or the jail administration, did not release him?
22:25Look, Khawar sahib, when we spoke to the jail administration,
22:30they said that the production order of Ijaz Chaudhry,
22:35was not received by the Islamabad police,
22:38that is why he was not released from here for Islamabad.
22:42And the jail administration also had to tell us,
22:45that the Islamabad team,
22:47reached the court at the Mercury Gate,
22:50after which they were demanded,
22:52to show us the production order,
22:54so that we can release Ijaz Chaudhry with you to Islamabad.
22:57But they said, that there was a 10-15 minute debate,
23:00with the Islamabad police,
23:02but they did not have any evidence,
23:05after which Ijaz Chaudhry would be released,
23:08and sent to Islamabad.
23:10That is why we did not send him.
23:12Whereas, the jail administration has to say,
23:15that whenever there is a production order of any prisoner,
23:18the action that is taken,
23:20is sent to the accused.
23:22Since 18 months, Senator Ijaz Chaudhry...
23:24Yaar Muhammad, we understand what you are saying.
23:26Thank you very much.
23:27This is the same thing that is happening.
23:29Yesterday, the accused was in jail,
23:31and they said that he is not being respected,
23:34Let us take you to the Parliament,
23:36Mr. Farooq, our Deputy Bureau Chief.
23:38And today, in the Parliament,
23:40Chairman Senant was asked,
23:42Yusuf Reza Gilani,
23:44who is a former Speaker of the National Assembly,
23:46he knows how to use this power,
23:48he is Chairman Senant,
23:50he is also a former Prime Minister.
23:52And viewers, this has been a good tradition of the PPP,
23:55that on political grounds,
23:58especially on fundamental grounds,
24:00people are told to stop,
24:02that they cannot tolerate this kind of pain.
24:05And they give a lot of free time.
24:07And he was asked, what answer did he give?
24:09Listen.
24:10Mr. Gilani, you are the custodian of the house.
24:12Senator Ijaz Chaudhry,
24:14his production order has not been issued.
24:16What will you do?
24:17I have issued the production order.
24:19Sir, there has been no communication yet, right?
24:21Look, we are going to the house,
24:23let them speak,
24:25then we will answer.
24:26So you mean the jail superintendent
24:28is more powerful than Chairman Senant?
24:30Look, the minister will be present in the house.
24:34Let's go.
24:36The production order has been issued.
24:38Let's go.
24:40Let's go.
24:42The minister will be there.
24:44Mr. Farooq, thank you very much.
24:46Okay, tell me,
24:48today in all the newspapers,
24:50English and Urdu,
24:52there is news that
24:54the production order has been issued.
24:56The press release has been issued.
24:58We also have it.
25:00We also showed you the press release a while ago.
25:02So we know the reason.
25:04We spoke to Lahore.
25:06They say that the jail superintendent
25:08has not shown it to us.
25:10So everyone has it.
25:12I don't know what could be the reason.
25:14But did you talk to the secretary
25:16and the office of Chairman Senant
25:18about why there was no action taken on it?
25:20Look,
25:22the production order has been issued
25:24to the jail superintendent.
25:26And the minister has said
25:28that some reasons have been given
25:30after the production order was issued
25:32in relation to bringing
25:34Jal Chaudhary to the Senate.
25:36Why wasn't he brought?
25:38He said that the reasons given
25:40should be discussed
25:42in the parliamentary committee
25:44which is currently negotiating
25:46between the PTI and the government.
25:48What are those reasons?
25:50They have not been brought forward
25:52and neither has the Senate secretary.
25:54But it is true that the production order
25:56issued by the Senate secretary
25:58was received by the Punjab government
26:00and the Lakhpat Jail.
26:02So that is when the reasons were given
26:04that Jal Chaudhary cannot be presented
26:06on the basis of these reasons.
26:08So now we are waiting
26:10to see what those reasons are.
26:12It is the responsibility of the Senate secretary
26:14to bring them forward
26:16so that we know what the reasons are
26:18and discuss them in the committee.
26:20Thank you very much, Mr. Farooq.
26:22We have now heard the actual story.
26:24The Lahore Jail superintendent
26:26has told us that
26:28Senator Ijaz Chaudhary
26:30is a former political worker
26:32associated with the Jamaat-e-Islami.
26:34It is obvious that
26:36he has been charged
26:38in the court,
26:40in the case,
26:42in the court.
26:44Now the production order issue
26:46has been brought forward
26:48by Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
26:50when he was the Leader of the Opposition.
26:52And his son Hamza Shahbaz,
26:54when he was the Leader of the Opposition
26:56in the Punjab Assembly.
26:58Now when the sessions used to take place
27:00for weeks,
27:02the residents of the Leader of the House,
27:04who are in the Minister's Enclave,
27:06used to be present there,
27:08in Lahore,
27:10they also lived in their homes.
27:12So what was the big issue
27:14that Mr. Shahbaz Sharif raised
27:16when he was the Leader of the Opposition?
27:18He raised the issue of
27:20how the opposition
27:22used to live in Lahore.
27:24He raised the issue of
27:26how the opposition
27:28used to live in Lahore.
27:30He raised the issue of
27:32how the opposition
27:34used to live in Lahore.
27:36He raised the issue of
27:38how the opposition
27:40used to live in Lahore.
27:42This is a valid question of Mr. Chaudhary.
27:44Then you were talking about the commission.
27:46Then you were talking about the commission.
27:48No, no, Mr. Chaudhary,
27:50continue.
27:52The commission that you mentioned,
27:54the commission will be formed
27:56when the TORs are formed.
27:58How can a commission be formed without the TORs?
28:00And is the Pakistan Justice Movement
28:02ready to form the TORs?
28:04This is a very important question.
28:06Now when it is not ready,
28:08how can a commission be formed?
28:10This is also a very important question.
28:12This is reversed, Mr. Naveed.
28:14First the decision is that the commission will be formed
28:16and then the TORs.
28:18The decision is to form the commission.
28:20The commission will come in action only when the TORs are formed.
28:22No, no.
28:24Mr. Naveed, I am saying
28:26that both the parties will agree
28:28that we have to form the commission.
28:30The TORs will be discussed in the next step.
28:32Mr. Ijaz Chaudhary,
28:34if they had come,
28:36they wouldn't have had to do that.
28:38How are you?
28:40I am fine.
28:42I am attracted to your type.
28:44But I don't have time for the program today.
28:46No, no.
28:48I am missing Mr. Rehman Malik.
28:50Forget about Mr. Rehman Malik.
28:52He used to wear
28:54such eye-catching colors.
28:58I remember Mr. Rehman Malik very well.
29:00Forget about him.
29:02Let's move on to the next story.
29:04I have a question for you.
29:06I was not paying attention.
29:08You can ask me.
29:10I will go to Mr. Chaudhary.
29:12Mr. Ijaz Chaudhary was supposed to come.
29:14Yes, Mr. Ijaz Chaudhary was supposed to come.
29:16Mr. Ijaz Chaudhary's absence
29:18is a big issue.
29:20He was saying
29:22that
29:24there is a change
29:26in the air.
29:28I thought
29:30that there might be a change.
29:32But there was no decision.
29:34Mr. Ijaz Chaudhary
29:36is a man of his word.
29:38He said that it was his decision.
29:40Mr. Ijaz Chaudhary's production order came.
29:42He said that the matter was being settled.
29:44There was a deal.
29:46When I drove the horse,
29:48I found out that there was no deal.
29:50Listen to me.
29:52Your horses
29:54go to the other side.
29:56I know the way to Islamabad
29:58where your horses go.
30:00Listen to me.
30:02If your horses don't go to the other side,
30:04you won't get the real news.
30:06Then you will say that I told you.
30:08No, no, no.
30:10I will tell you later.
30:12I will tell you later.
30:14Secondly,
30:16we have given an example of Japan.
30:18Our Prime Minister,
30:20who is now the Chancellor of Delhi,
30:22used to take him to Germany and Japan.
30:24Have you ever played that sword?
30:26If you allow me, I will do it.
30:28I will do it.
30:30Mr. Ijaz Chaudhary,
30:32the horses don't go to the other side.
30:34The side where they are now,
30:36you know,
30:38some people
30:40don't let their horses cross the road.
30:42We have heard
30:44this incident from some people.
30:46Mr. Chaudhary, please talk about it.
30:48The horse is drugged.
30:50He is drugged.
30:52The horse goes to the place
30:54where he gets the drug.
30:56His horses...
30:58Yes, Mr. Nagvi,
31:00what do you think?
31:02I said, does he sniff something in his nose?
31:04Of course.
31:06How else does he sniff, Mr. Nagvi?
31:08I said, how does he run?
31:10No, sir, I am telling the same thing.
31:12There is only one way to sniff.
31:14If you have another way,
31:16we will talk about it later.
31:18So, some people have a way
31:20that, of course,
31:22there is a drug used in it.
31:24Some people also
31:26have a way.
31:28Mr. Chaudhary,
31:30his horses go in one direction.
31:32And he says...
31:34So, the problem is that
31:36when the horse goes back and forth,
31:38his horses don't know
31:40what to do.
31:44Some blind horses
31:46don't know where to go.
31:48They just run.
31:50We want
31:52this process to be
31:54a derailed law process
31:56and solve the issues
31:58through talks.
32:00If the situation
32:02gets worse again,
32:04it won't be good for the country.
32:06So, viewers,
32:08we all wish
32:10and pray
32:12and hope
32:14that the current political situation
32:16in the country should be solved
32:18through negotiations.
32:20Because in this,
32:22the situation is better.
32:24Yesterday, you saw
32:26that there is an insurgency
32:28in KP.
32:30The army chief
32:32reached there.
32:34Mr. Asim Munir
32:36gathered all the political leaders
32:38and talked to them
32:40about the problem.
32:42On one side,
32:44the chief minister is sitting.
32:46His name is Ali Min Gandapur.
32:48On the other side,
32:50he is the leader of the political parties.
32:52So, we need
32:54strength in Pakistan.
32:56And this is possible
32:58only when our politicians
33:00in the parliament
33:02and Mr. Naqvi
33:04will move forward.
33:06And today,
33:08if the Islamabad police
33:10didn't come with a U-turn
33:12and say that we have to take the
33:14chairman's order,
33:16we would have contacted
33:18the army chief.
33:20But let me give you this news.
33:22Negotiations will be successful.
33:24If anyone wishes that
33:26the negotiations will not be successful,
33:28then this time will tell.
33:30We will talk about the meeting
33:32with the army chief in Peshawar
33:34after the break.