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"Election Act Main Jo Govt Amendment Kar Chuki Hai Wohi Prevail Rahegi" Hassan Ayub's Analysis
Constitutional Crisis? Supreme Court, Election Commission, and Parliament Face off | Expert Analysis
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program.
00:13Ladies and gentlemen, there is a saying that thousands of wishes come true on every wish.
00:17Yesterday you saw that a wish was expressed by some leaders of Pakistan Muslim League Moon.
00:25They went to the election commission and said that these seats are ours, give us the seats.
00:29Immediately after that, we saw that a letter was written to the election commission from the Speaker of the National Assembly
00:36that the Supreme Court's decision is no longer applicable because we have already made a law on it.
00:43Parliament, National Assembly, Senate, President of Pakistan. Yesterday Hassan Ayub made a correction, so we repeat it.
00:49Now it is that today the Speaker of the National Assembly has gone one step further.
00:56He has issued a new list, which has been passed by the Parliament.
01:02Keeping in mind the amendment that was made in the Election Act 2017, he has said that
01:08the allocation of those 23 controversial seats is now directly attached with the election commission notification.
01:19The election commission should notify that these are the controversial seats that were given to the PTI after the Supreme Court's decision.
01:26Since the Supreme Court's decision is no longer applicable, the letter that was written yesterday, it was explained very clearly by the Speaker of the National Assembly.
01:34Therefore, the new list that the viewers are presenting to you today,
01:38there is no mention of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
01:44Sunni Tahaat Council has been reinstated in this list,
01:49and 80 seats have been given to the Sikhs.
01:56And the remaining seats are in front of you,
01:59110 PM Alliance 69, a very good figure has been given to the Pakistan People's Party.
02:05MQM 22 and PML have 5,
02:10Kaaf League IPP 4, and the rest of the list is present.
02:15These 23 controversial seats are those seats,
02:19when the Supreme Court said in its decision that
02:23we have checked the affidavits of 39 people of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
02:29they already have a relationship with the PTI at the time of election.
02:33And plus the 41 people,
02:36take the affidavit from them again, verify it within 15 days,
02:39and then issue a list.
02:43And according to that list, all the people of PTI,
02:46and the specific seats, according to that, distribute them.
02:50So, this matter is now getting more intense since yesterday.
02:54Today, once again,
02:56our Chief Election Commissioner, Sikandar Sultan Raja,
03:01has held a meeting, I think it is the 4th or 5th day,
03:04he holds a meeting every day,
03:06and every day he decides that we need more legal and legal advice on this,
03:14and then we will decide.
03:16Mr. Qamar Dilshad has given a very good advice to the Speaker National Assembly,
03:21that what they should have done,
03:24I think they have sent the letter to the wrong address,
03:27they should have sent the letter to some other address.
03:30Instead of sending the letter to the Election Commission,
03:33the Speaker National Assembly should have sent a reference to the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
03:37that your decision has come in violation of the Constitution of the Election Act.
03:41Now you will reach the conclusion that you are not eligible.
03:43The Supreme Court has a very important decision on 12th July,
03:46the reason for this is also very important.
03:48The Election Commission of Pakistan will not make the decision today,
03:51but will send it to the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
03:54Hassan, let me come to you first.
03:57On one hand, the Supreme Court has made a decision,
04:00and on the other hand, the Speaker National Assembly has made its own determination,
04:04keeping in view the law passed by the Parliament.
04:10And now the third thing is that the stakeholder is directly the Election Commission of Pakistan.
04:17The Election Commission of Pakistan is silent right now.
04:20Now the decision of the Supreme Court in the field,
04:23the Election Commission and the Speaker National Assembly,
04:26the story is being made.
04:29What do you think is the solution to this?
04:31Now the Election Commission of Pakistan is not even notifying.
04:35Either say that we do not accept your decision to the Supreme Court,
04:39and we are accepting the decision of the Election National Assembly and we are notifying.
04:44Now they are sitting quietly.
04:46What do you think, where will this matter go now?
04:50Will all the parties have to take their arguments in front of the Supreme Court again?
04:54Or is it expected from the Election Commission
04:57that the request or letter written by the Speaker of the National Assembly,
05:02they should accept it and notify?
05:05There are 23 seats in which 15 are PMLN, 5 are the Pakistan People's Party and 3 are the JOIF.
05:10Hassan.
05:11Sir, the problem is that the Election Commission also has to act according to the law.
05:17And the Supreme Court of Pakistan also has to act according to the law.
05:21The Speaker of the National Assembly also has to act according to the law.
05:29Therefore, all three institutions have to act according to the law.
05:35That is, the role of the Speaker is also a law.
05:37And the Chief Election Commissioner is also a law.
05:40And the Supreme Court of Pakistan is also a law.
05:42So these institutions have to act according to the law.
05:45Therefore, I think the judgment of the Supreme Court has been ineffective.
05:49And at this time, the law has to prevail.
05:52And after reviving it in the Election Act,
05:54when it has been implemented in the past,
05:57then there is no doubt about it.
06:00There is no room left for the Election Commission to go anywhere else.
06:04So, I can see that at the end of the day,
06:08the amendment that the government has made successfully in the Election Act,
06:12that will prevail.
06:16Hassan is consistent with his view that the amendment that has been made in the Election Act will prevail.
06:23Viewers, Mr. Qamar Dilshad, who you know is very experienced,
06:29he is pointing to a critical juncture.
06:32The institutions are standing in front of each other with their own opinions.
06:35What will happen now? Listen.
06:37The Election Commission has also stated on its strong point
06:40that until the decision of the intraparty election is not made,
06:44we, the Naxals, do not have the courage to vote for any party.
06:47The matter has become very complicated.
06:49There has been a conflict in the constitution.
06:51Three forces have come forward.
06:53Election Commission of Pakistan, Parliament of Pakistan and Supreme Court of Pakistan.
06:59Mr. Nagvi, you talk to the majority of experts,
07:04their views, their objections or disagreements, whatever they may be.
07:08In the presence of a clear injunction of the Supreme Court,
07:13everything else follows it.
07:17You must remember, you mentioned yesterday
07:19that when it was a matter of vote of no confidence,
07:22whether it was injustice or a constitutional error,
07:24we discussed it yesterday as well.
07:26The Supreme Court took a suomoto notice on it.
07:29Five members of the Supreme Court gave their opinions on it.
07:33And by reversing the whole process, they said,
07:35this is the interpretation of the constitution.
07:37Many people were upset with it.
07:39Obviously, the PTI people were upset with it at that time.
07:41Now the full court sits on the bench.
07:43The eight judges on the bench of the full court have a very clear decision.
07:47And the other three judges also believe in the legal constitution of Pakistan.
07:53Therefore, you can reverse the decision of the Supreme Court
07:57by putting a review petition or a counter petition.
08:01It is not possible that the decision remains
08:04and after that, a simple legislation is passed.
08:07What is your opinion on this?
08:09What do you think is the solution to this?
08:11You can comment later, but first share your opinion.
08:14I will tell you both the news and the solution.
08:16See, I usually joke, but let me say something very serious.
08:19No, no, please do it.
08:21See, why is all this happening?
08:24All this is happening because there is no balance.
08:27Someone's case is very heavy somewhere,
08:29someone's case is very heavy somewhere.
08:31You have to create this balance.
08:33Now, the head of state in any democratic government
08:36or the biggest position is that of the Prime Minister.
08:39Now, if the Prime Minister and the Cabinet decide
08:42that this judge should go from here, that judge should go from here,
08:45this reform should be done here, that reform should be done here,
08:47then neither the mind will accept it, nor the law will accept it, nor the constitution will accept it.
08:50Because the Prime Minister himself, in his own capacity,
08:52does not have such a great power or the cabinet does not have such a great power.
08:56It is necessary for you to make a decision with the National Assembly,
08:59to get it passed by the majority.
09:01Now, let's put this example in front and go to the Supreme Court.
09:04All the judges sitting in the Supreme Court, 12, 14, 15,
09:07if those 2, 4, 5 people make such a big decision that clashes with the constitution,
09:11then should those 5, 7 people get this power,
09:15which the Prime Minister does not get, his cabinet does not get?
09:18So, the thing is that you have to create a balance,
09:21wherever you have the power.
09:23And to create this balance, the best solution that can be,
09:27which I personally understand, and maybe the smart ones will also accept it,
09:30is that you make a commission or you make an authority,
09:34in which you take 4, 5 judges of the Supreme Court, the top judges,
09:38you take the representatives of the Bar Council,
09:41you take 4 people from the National Assembly,
09:432 from the Treasury Board, 2 from the opposition,
09:46apart from this, you take the Minister of Law,
09:48you take the Attorney General,
09:50and all of them together decide on all these things,
09:52that what is the constitution of whom,
09:54what is the class of whom,
09:56and what should be the decision about the judges and other such decisions,
10:01and I think this can be your long term solution.
10:04Yes.
10:05Viewers, this is an absolutely right opinion,
10:08and the problem that is created today,
10:11obviously, the supremacy of a parliament is also in front of everyone,
10:15the supremacy of the constitution is also in front of everyone,
10:18now the Supreme Court makes a wrong or right decision,
10:21now you cannot have two opinions on it,
10:23because it is a majority decision,
10:25now it has come,
10:27now you see that,
10:29because it is a political battle,
10:31all the power is being played around the division,
10:36now yesterday we saw that PMLN,
10:39obviously they have a majority in the National Assembly,
10:42their speaker,
10:43although the speaker should be a bi-partisan,
10:46but the speaker is obviously of the majority party,
10:49Asad Qaiser was before him,
10:50of Pakistan Justice,
10:51we saw him before him,
10:53and the speaker of the Punjab Assembly, Mr. Malik,
10:56he also wrote this letter.
10:58Now, a letter comes forward today,
11:00from the speaker of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly,
11:04from there,
11:05Babur Saleem Sawati,
11:07his letter came to us,
11:09he has written a letter to the Election Commission,
11:12in it,
11:13the requests he has made in English,
11:16we will put its translation in front of you,
11:19the title of that letter,
11:21The title of the letter is,
11:22Practicality of the Law and the Governance of the Law.
11:25In the case of PTI's special sessions,
11:27the Supreme Court,
11:28has declared the decision of the Peshawar High Court,
11:30as a final third,
11:31and has issued clear instructions,
11:33regarding the allotment of special sessions,
11:36that these sessions,
11:37cannot be allotted to other political parties,
11:40this is the text of that letter,
11:42even after the Supreme Court's decision,
11:44unnecessary delays are being made,
11:46in the case of special sessions,
11:48this is written in the letter,
11:50for the National and Provincial Assemblies,
11:52the winning numbers,
11:54have been declared as PTI's numbers,
11:57who are the members of PTI's parliamentary party,
12:00in the Assembly,
12:01the Supreme Court,
12:02has issued the decision of special sessions,
12:04in the light of the law,
12:05on which the Election Commission,
12:07has continuously failed to act,
12:09which is contrary to the decision,
12:10by refusing to act.
12:12I, as the custodian of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly,
12:16find it necessary to emphasize,
12:18that while following the Supreme Court's decision,
12:20the practice of the constitution,
12:22and the rule of law,
12:23should be ensured.
12:25Mr. Chaudhry Ghulam Sain,
12:27obviously,
12:28in Pakistan,
12:30the interpretation of the constitution,
12:32the laws of will,
12:34which support a political party,
12:37they keep them in view,
12:38and make their statements.
12:40Now, the Supreme Court's decision,
12:42is very clear,
12:43with the majority,
12:45keeping that in view,
12:46the KP Assembly,
12:47their custodian,
12:49the Speaker,
12:50has given their opinion.
12:51Keeping in view,
12:52the law passed by the Parliament,
12:54the Speaker of the National Assembly,
12:55and the Speaker of the Punjab Assembly,
12:56have given their opinion.
12:57The solution to the fight,
12:58has been given by Mr. Naqvi,
13:00that all the BJOs,
13:01should talk to each other,
13:02for God's sake,
13:03so that,
13:04no one is left with anything,
13:06it is better,
13:07to use their brains.
13:10What do you think,
13:11the solution,
13:12will there be more fighting,
13:14or,
13:15do you think,
13:16they will be able,
13:17to use their brains,
13:18in some way?
13:22No,
13:23they have no other option,
13:24other than fighting.
13:25There is no other option.
13:26New elections,
13:27do not suit them.
13:28They are not able,
13:29to follow the law,
13:30and the constitution.
13:32The confrontation,
13:33that they are inviting,
13:34you will see the result,
13:35for yourself.
13:36I have said the same thing,
13:37every day,
13:38which is not appropriate,
13:39to do.
13:40If they,
13:41had to follow the law,
13:43then,
13:44on 12th July,
13:45it is not too late,
13:47the decision,
13:48on 12th July,
13:4912th August,
13:5012th September,
13:51today,
13:52it is 20th September.
13:53So,
13:54from this,
13:55you can make a guess,
13:56that on one hand,
13:57when they,
13:58take a decision,
13:59of their own free will,
14:00then,
14:01in the next two hours,
14:02they act on it.
14:03I am surprised,
14:04that till now,
14:05the election commission,
14:06even yesterday,
14:07I had said,
14:08that after writing the decision,
14:09they did not go back,
14:10to present the speaker.
14:11They said,
14:12this is according to you,
14:13the seats were given to you,
14:14which were not yours,
14:15we are giving them back,
14:16to you,
14:17according to the law,
14:18and the constitution.
14:19So,
14:20you just wait,
14:21today,
14:22on Maulana Fazlur Rahman,
14:23too,
14:24you had high,
14:25expectations,
14:26and expectations,
14:27he said two things,
14:28he said,
14:29this is not on.
14:30Viewers,
14:31Maulana,
14:32obviously,
14:33this,
14:34this issue of,
14:35two-thirds majority,
14:36you know,
14:37Maulana's character,
14:38has come to light,
14:39very clearly.
14:40Today,
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