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00:00This one
00:01Kind of embarrassing. I mean, I I certainly I would say the penalties ten penalties
00:07In the case of the Darian low three of them on him
00:12Embarrassing sloppy wiggy. I don't know. I you know, I I don't know what word you would use they go whoops
00:19and so
00:21It's just I guess you're you're either comfortable with it or you're not watching anymore
00:28Or you're riding this season out and praying and hoping that they
00:33They do what they need to do in the offseason to get back where they should be
00:36Now the only hope is that Drake May doesn't get hurt like I saw your tweet yesterday Curtis after the game
00:41But you said if I was Drake May I'd sit the rest of the season. Absolutely
00:44I'm watching the second half of that game. There was a couple plays where he looked like he was shaking his head a bit
00:48I the whole thing, but I just I'm sorry. I go back to mail. He'll join us around 9 9 20
00:55The the the comments do we have those shine
00:57Can we just play those one more time if we have them but the what he said after the game?
01:01I think we were gonna get we're gonna do it during they
01:07Said it very quickly
01:08he just said the what happens on the field he has nothing to do with his job ends when the players step between the white
01:14lines and
01:15that is
01:17Inexcusable that is the opposite of the role of a coach what you see on the field is a reflection of what they're being taught
01:24And what's being emphasized?
01:26Like what is the job of a head coach if he's not responsible for it goes on between the white lines, right?
01:32Now you watch to see if the players
01:34Give up the remainder of the season like if you watch every game. Do they just start going?
01:40All right. I'm checking. All right, the U-Hauls packed at the U stadium
01:44Do you all is ready to go are these guys now getting in that mode because memory is like we want to play that
01:49Spoiler team mold we want or they just completely go the other direction. They're like, all right
01:54Yeah, we're done. Well that he's Gerard Mayo told the broadcast team that he's waiting to see
02:01Who is going to fly through the clouds and get to blue skies?
02:07So you'll be able to see the guys that you can follow me on blue sky now
02:12Twitter is out the guys the guys that want to follow that want to fly through
02:16All the way to the blue skies are the ones that will be putting the effort in
02:21They will be outside yelling at them for being dumb
02:23I mean like I just it's so bad in that game that first half was unwatchable
02:29Absolutely unwatchable every time the Patriots got the ball before you
02:33Second and 17 and every time the Dolphins had the ball they were down the field in three seconds
02:39Listen, I see a lot of people who want there to be changed when it comes to the head coach this football team
02:45I don't think you're gonna get one. No way. I think Robert Kraft is is so far into this
02:51and and
02:52Told you went out of his way to tell you that he identified him as the guy to replace Bill Belichick five years ago
02:59So and he's in the process of sabotaging him by not investing financially into the roster that is that Gerard Mayo coaches
03:04Yeah, but I don't think he's gonna make a change
03:07There are I just think that I you know, there are certainly reasons why
03:14When it comes to some of the coaching decisions that he makes in game
03:19That maybe you can question and wonder if he's got what it takes, you know, I
03:26And we have we have a we have all morning to get into this so we'd have to get into all of it now
03:30But I you know, he made the challenge on the on the catch yesterday
03:36I there was a penalty looming there anyway, so it was gonna be a first down either way. He lost that challenge
03:43I they actually on the broadcast said that maybe maybe it wasn't a catcher. I just don't
03:48You know, I I don't know if he he certainly is not in-game wise what you had with the previous guy
03:56But the previous guy was there for a couple decades
04:04But we you make a change, uh-huh, you know, you're not changing the you know the
04:10Director of first impressions right in an organization. You're you're changing the CEO for our show. That's actually Jackson
04:17so so it's
04:19you're expecting that the if you're gonna replace the
04:23You know arguably the greatest CEO to ever be a CEO
04:28I'm assuming that you're gonna replace him with somebody that you think can operate similar to the same level. Mm-hmm
04:35But you are replacing a CEO that went bankrupt. It's not like you're replacing a CEO. That was at the top of his game
04:40I
04:42Think I might be coming to Curtis side on this one. Well, I mean, what do you mean?
04:46I mean he was awful. I mean the CEO was not coming off of a great year. I don't think he was awful
04:50I think that he did a good job last year. I I
04:53Curtis I don't I think he was stuck with a quarterback that he didn't want but whatever
04:57I'm not I don't want to argue the bill thing for I'm not I'm just saying that it's not like you're taking it
05:02It's not like, you know, Jimmy Johnson leaving the Cowboys after a Super Bowl
05:06You're talking about a guy that was at the end who had I'm gonna actually defend all my lead
05:11So this isn't like an anti building
05:13It's just the reality was that the team with the greatest coach of all time
05:17Had one more win than this team currently has right now and you can't I can't I can't you can't argue the Bill Gerrard thing
05:24Oh, you can't say you're not gonna argue that but then you go. Well the guy that did it last year
05:31Would have done a better job or it looks like he could have done a better job
05:34like I think
05:39No, I think it's like Gerrard has what he has and
05:43It's not much and we can't compare him to what Bill was because Bill had decades
05:50Upon decades of not only being a head coach, but being a defensive coordinator, but to Greg's point
05:56Why are you replacing him with somebody who can't be up to snuff?
05:59Yeah, but nobody's gonna be up to snuff who's gonna be up to snuff
06:03My label Mike Vrabel might have been I don't I I don't understand the when
06:08Your automatic assumption that nobody would have come in here and been able to coach this football team better than they are now
06:14But if Bill can't do it last year
06:16What makes you think?
06:17Vrabel would but I've done a better job than the greatest guy of all time
06:20To do a better job with the same team that Bill couldn't do it last year
06:25I think that Bill at the end of this season Bill would have will have done a better job in his last year
06:31Than Gerrard Mayo is doing this year. That's my opinion
06:38Your opinion my opinion is I just think that you can't compare
06:41Gerrard Mayo to the greatest quarterback of all time when I mean the greatest coach actually have a greatest coach of all time you
06:47Automatically do that's the way it goes when you replace somebody like yeah, but that's that's a stupid way of doing thing
06:53It's not me. I'm just suggesting what people say
06:57But like they're gonna say that is that's a stupid thing to say
07:00How do you compare the greatest coach of all time to a guy who's in his first year and head coach that that when we sit?
07:08When we used to compare Matt Jones to Tom Brady and wiggy
07:11Did you think Bill was washed at the end of last season done? No, I didn't think he was done
07:16But I think he was done on his football team, huh?
07:18I think he was done. Did you think he was done as a coach? No, okay
07:22So you made the decision you're Robert Kraft to fire him and move on. Yes
07:27You should be the expectation as a fan
07:30Is that the guy that you're gonna replace him with is going to be reasonable at the job?
07:36But the difference is and what we have to go back to is that when the Patriots last made a coaching change?
07:41They fired Pete Carroll. They brought in Bill Belichick
07:44Pete Carroll won eight games bill won five in his first year
07:47Yeah, you go back to these same facts over and over and over you're saying the expectation is the coach
07:52I'm not talking about Pete Carroll Bill Belichick
07:56I'm talking about what happened in this particular instance, right?
07:59and I think it's important that when you look at when there are coaching changes in the NFL that the
08:05Expectation is not that immediately. The new coach will be better than the one that you fired
08:09I don't think I don't think anybody thought that right?
08:12I don't think anybody thought that you just said that the expectation would be that he would have had a better year than Bill had
08:17Last year. No, I didn't say that
08:18I said, I think he will but I but I said that the that he's going to be reasonable when it comes to execution
08:24So you think he's doing a great job then? No, not at all. I've been
08:29About I'm saying that if you look at when there are coaching changes in NFL history, right?
08:34But with regard to Bill and Gerard Mayo
08:37What is your argument one guy's coaching? What would what one?
08:41It's neither of their fault. It looks right now. It looks like the rosters just crap
08:45It looks like they've been handed us a bunch of bad players
08:48Yeah, I would disagree with you because Bill had control or at least we thought he had control of his rock, right?
08:53But I don't judge I judge in this conversation. The only thing we're talking about is the coach not the roster bill
08:59Alright, so if we're only talking about the coach then I would say one coach
09:03Had the ability to have what he needed because the GM and him worked well together
09:08Where the other coach and Gerard Mayo is coaching with one hand tied behind his back because the GM is not did not give him
09:16Anything I hear you, but we also I mean right we can argue that back and forth
09:21I just what is that part of it?
09:22Of course, but in my opinion we all go back now to craft like I I don't I'm done with blaming the roster on everybody
09:29else
09:29He had an opportunity Robert Kraft this offseason
09:32Uh-huh to invest the way they did the last time they had a top pick in the first round when they spent a quarter of a
09:38Billion dollars and they elected to make this team what it is and then even at the deadline
09:43You think they could have used that tackle that was traded to the Vikings at the trade deadline yesterday when the Darien Lowe is holding?
09:49Everything in Miami like so I blame the owner for not investing and I'm not
09:54The reason why I think Mayo may have a very short time as the head coach is not because he's incapable of being a good
10:00coach it's because he is not
10:04answering these questions in a
10:07Productive way not creating faith in the fan base, and I do think the fan base right now is
10:12Enraged they are living it with the product
10:15They're watching the the mistakes being repeated, and I think Gerard Mayo will get a lot of that
10:20He it's putrid. It's putrid everywhere other than Drake may it's you and he even was bad yesterday bad
10:27It's awful. Here's angry principal Dave Dave good morning
10:32Hey good morning ladies
10:34Curtis I mean, I'm done with you. Will you stop comparing one more win?
10:39He's got one more win or one less win and the greatest coach of all time stop
10:44Yeah, Gerard you hate actual empirical data when you're a principal
10:48No, no, you just use the same data over and over again, and it's how many wins they have it's kind of important
10:55No, no, it's actually not what this guy was hired
10:59This guy is hired as a defensive coach that is the problem
11:04He cannot coach up this defense period if Bill Belichick was coaching this team right now
11:09They would be 500 with Drake made
11:15For you quick question for you happy Thanksgiving
11:19Yeah, you too. What was Bill Belichick's record against Tua?
11:23Ah
11:24Here we go with the records against Tua. Will you start you do you pick a piece of data?
11:31They would have been better he never beat him he was all in six
11:35Okay, so that's one that those are two losses. They would have had three more lot three more wins under bill easily
11:44Gerard males done nothing to scheme up. Who did they take away yesterday? Bill Belichick would have taken something away yesterday
11:50What did they take away yesterday the run the pass bill took away my joy
11:55But I would say that so did bill coach a one-win team up to four wins last year. Is that what you're saying?
12:00Listen, we said it bill was done with the team. He was done with craft
12:05He's not done as a coach bill Belichick was what is the greatest defensive mind of all time?
12:10And he would have this team at 500 with Drake may easily if not even higher than that Greg is right
12:17Great a hundred percent right? Yeah, can we play with don't set about Drake?
12:22We really think bill Belichick would have taken and I agree with you great. Oh, I agree. I'm confused. No, no
12:29No, okay my I agree with you
12:31I think that it builds your coach and you have Drake may you're better this year than what you were when where they are right now
12:38Okay, that's my thing. Is this I don't think it's fair to compare
12:43Belichick Mayo because I feel like Mayo is now having to coach
12:48Okay, it might not I that's fine. It might not be fair. But that is exactly what happens
12:56No, it's it's that's what happened. Is that right though for the owner to hire a guy but not give him
13:03Every piece of it, but that's what happens when you select one guy
13:08Five years ago with limited experience and determine that he is going to replace the greatest to ever do it
13:15But I think that that's what happens
13:17But I think even that's what I think even if labels the coach and you do the same thing that you did the man
13:22We'll never we'll never know about Grebel
13:24The thing is is you it's okay to compare I believe when it's been such a bad drop-off on the defense when all we were
13:30Told going into this season was that Gerard Mayo is a defensive mind
13:33This is going to be great for the team great for the team
13:35You are able to compare that from last season to this. I mean, I you know, whether right or wrong
13:41Broadcast was talking about it yesterday bill would a bill coach defense yesterday would find a way to at least
13:49pressure the quarterback
13:51You know they and I you know, maybe maybe that's wrong until was having a blast out there
13:56Let's see. It's it it seems accurate to me
13:59So I understand that but a couple weeks ago you had nine sacks and you were able to pressure and now we know that that
14:07Was a Chicago Bears team
14:10Here's what I here's what I'll say
14:11I think Mayo has had some issues especially defensive because my myself included. I thought this was a better. Yeah defense
14:18I think the issue has become
14:20that they didn't give Mayo every opportunity to be successful when it came to
14:27Putting players that could help this football team in place
14:31And that's why I think he was he's coaching with one hand
14:35I buy the fact did Elliot Wolfe or Robert Kraft get in the way somehow of Gerard Mayo
14:41Telling his offensive coordinator that he's got he's got a guy playing defense who played offense for them
14:48In prior seasons or is that on Gerard Mayo? No, that's all that's on
14:53That's kind of on everybody but it should be on Alex van Pelt
14:56It should be on Mayo to say hey, we use Marcus Jones two years ago for a few
15:01Snaps, but apparently he never said that right? But if you're there if you're the new offensive coordinator coming in you would be like, okay
15:09Who should I be looking at who can help us out? I it seems kind of dysfunctional though
15:14No, I have not seen this function. It does seem dysfunctional to me
15:18It was but we can't say that last year was functional
15:20It wasn't and if we want to talk about pressuring the quarterback the Patriots were
15:2427th in sacks last year with the greatest defensive mind of all time. Like we I understand it
15:29We get we get far away from something and we forget the bad times. We remember that he's a brilliant coach, which he is
15:36What this season has showed you is it's done everything Kraft didn't want to have happen in my book
15:41It's all on his desk that this roster is so bereft of talent and I'll agree with you on that point
15:47I like I'll agree with you if you want to put all of it on craft as far as the roster and the talent
15:53They're not I'll agree with you and craft should have did a better job
15:56To help me on say hey, listen, this is your first year first year head coach
16:01We're gonna get as much talent around you as possible and they didn't do that
16:06And I think if you were to ask Gerard Mayo to a man
16:08He won't say it on air
16:10But I'm willing to bet you if you said do you think you were given a fair shot this season?
16:15He would say no. Yeah. All right. Well, we will talk with Gerard Mayo here from Gillette Stadium
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