Patriots Head Coach Jerod Mayo joins! What does Mayo think was the difference in the game? Thoughts on the holding penalties?
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00:00Hey coach, uh
00:02Great discussion during the break by the way wiggy expected that you would walk in here and be on his side
00:07I didn't expect that
00:08When it comes to planting the flag right again, uh, and you are not uh, you believe you're an underdog and you win
00:16on the road
00:17In a rivalry game like what's wrong with that?
00:21What's wrong with planning so so let's just change all rivalry games to plant the flag game
00:28Whoever wins can plant the flag
00:31I'm, not missing the point. What's the point? The point is if you're an underdog on the road in a rivalry game
00:37Okay, you it's a big deal. Yeah, and and have some class win with classless part is punching someone with a helmet
00:46The classless part is going up to the middle of the field and planting your flag you beat you won
00:53Take your dub like a man
00:55And have some have some respect for your right go to your locker room and lose and don't go on the field
01:00No, let's talk about you know, what's gonna talk about, you know
01:03Gerard, you know better than anything I do, you know what that leads to fists getting thrown
01:08Yeah with helmets and shoulder who's really getting hurt the person throwing the punch is probably going to get hurt before the person
01:14Sometimes the helmet gets pulled off. Well, there you go
01:17Somebody's got a black eye
01:19All right. Have you had a black eye?
01:21No, no, no has anyone ever tried you like that and like punch you dead in your eye? No, no exactly
01:27I hope the questions are about football today
01:34Well, listen, um
01:35In that game till the end. Um, I think we were just we were talking about it before you came and really
01:41uh from our perspective the outside perspective it's being you know, again in scoring position and
01:48You got penalties and you're unable to you're unable to convert yeah to me the game came down to
01:54Red area defensively. We're poor offensively. We're poor in the red area. We walk away with no points on the field goal
02:01um
02:02And we just have to we have to that is the nfl and this is what I continue to try to tell the guys
02:06Like this is the nfl. We've been in seven one score games
02:09Seven one score games and we have to find a way
02:12To get over the hump and win those games and you know, I got to do a better job
02:16um and
02:17You have you say you have to do a better job. You got to get
02:21Uh, when you look at the situation penalty wise and these guys holding is there is there anything?
02:28I mean, is that a well, is that a you know, just a pure
02:32Disadvantage talent wise and that's their only option. Is that coaching like what?
02:35Yeah, i'm not gonna get into that what I will say is the week prior
02:38It was the operational pre-snap penalties, which are just totally focused concentration type of penalties
02:43Look, we're in the nfl like there will be times where it's holding or you know
02:46Someone's out there poor technique and it's passing the fairness like on the pass play to to jelani
02:51Um, look the first time we had this crew was the first miami game and there were 10 holding calls
02:57Uh between the two teams, so we went into the game knowing like this rep these refs
03:02They're gonna call holding and and that's the most frustrating part for me because once it does happen
03:07It's like all right, let's fix it there
03:09Obviously you can call them tiki tac or not tiki tac
03:11Like we need to be able to adjust in the game and do business as business is being done
03:16Well when you say do a better job, like, you know, especially in the red zone. Do you think it's more about play selection?
03:23maybe being
03:24Yeah, and I don't want to use the word aggressive or but just maybe play selection when it comes to
03:29Offensively and having that many opportunities or is it more about we had the right play on but it was poor execution by the players
03:37Yeah, look
03:39To me
03:40It's everyone like we can say, you know play selection. We can say execution the field gets shorter
03:46As you know the lower you get down. So now that safety that was in the middle of the field
03:51You know you were able to you know
03:53Take him out of the game
03:54he's now part of the game both in the run game in the pass game and
03:57We had to get a hat on a hat and score touchdowns and we just weren't able to do that
04:01And I would say defensively we weren't able to stop them positives wise
04:04I would say the biggest positive was your total yards on offense
04:09422 the most since 2022 I believe for you guys
04:12Is that drake may uh in his ability to just get the ball out there?
04:16But also take off with his legs and is that avp making sure that drake is improving every week?
04:20Yeah, I would say a combination of the two. I think drake's getting better every week. I talk about him not being a repeat error guy
04:26uh
04:27I would also say
04:28You know just as we sit up here and when we're not able to run the ball we say well it starts up front
04:34Now we run the ball for 200 200 yards and it starts up front and I would say that laden
04:39Uh, was it perfect?
04:40No
04:41But he went out there and played his tail off and had some big blocks for us and that's part of it
04:45I know look we all want to sit here and you know, look drake is a good player
04:49And he will be a good player
04:50He'll get better as we go on
04:52But there are other young players that have to take those steps and I would say laden took a step now
04:56Hopefully we can continue on that trajectory. Um going forward
05:01You had said after the game that you know
05:04You thought about calling a timeout before the two-point conversion or even on that drive
05:08The 19 play drive by the by the sea by the sea by the colts
05:12If we if we would have taken you know
05:13When I went back and watched it and this was part of the conversation, too
05:16If we would have taken our timeouts on that final drive
05:19We would have got the ball back with it was a seven play drive or something like that
05:22We would have gotten the ball back with like five seconds and no timeouts
05:25And so it did give us an opportunity to at the end of the game still have a chance
05:30So I think you've done a great job of being your own man
05:33And it's something that we've credited you for that
05:36A lot of people have followed certain coaches and then they try to be that person
05:40It was frustrating for me to hear you cite the super bowl. Yeah, I should have done that
05:45You're right. And look and this I probably shouldn't you know, when I said it
05:48I was frustrated first of all, which I should have taken a deep breath. I should not have said that
05:53I should not have said it. Yeah
05:55Ah neutralize
05:58Hey, hey, he did not expect me. He didn't expect me to say, you know what guys, you know what guys I should not have
06:05Figured him out
06:08It was like I saw smoke coming out your ears look I shouldn't have said it I shouldn't have said it and we all make mistakes
06:14Honestly, I have not had anybody agree with me in five years
06:17I know that's not true. We just agreed that I know that's planning on the flight two times in a day
06:21I draw it
06:23At least we got like some insight on because our biggest conversation was
06:28you know the reason why you didn't call you timeouts and part of our conversation was
06:32The fact that we felt like you wanted to have enough time offensively what you did
06:37And put yourself in a position that would have been a history and I should make in field goal
06:40Yeah, but I would also say joey
06:42I know he missed a short field goal during the game
06:44But pregame is always big especially with specialists and he was booming them in pregame and I felt like that gave us the best
06:51Best scenario, I think, you know since like 2014
06:55You know one I think it's one and eleven as far as kicks like that
06:59um
07:00Same thing with hell marries like it was one out of twelve one out of ten
07:03I don't know. I just felt like that was the best thing to do that short pass for drake
07:07Where you guys hope you guys were hoping to get a little bit closer than 67 yards out
07:11Yeah, that's why we ran it. You know, you run the slants because they're playing off
07:14You run the slants and I thought hunter and the quarterback did a good job getting the ball out and getting down
07:19Like that's part of situations that we go over. Uh every day speaking of hunter henry
07:24How's there not a helmet to helmet? No when it comes, you know, I asked the referee about that and you know
07:30he said it wasn't
07:32helmet to helmet his screws didn't
07:34You know
07:37Like a transformer like
07:40I realized I realized he wasn't defenseless, but it's still that's why he was a runner but but it's still helmet to helmet
07:46It's yeah
07:48We're going to talk about penalties
07:50I mean christian barmore after the game the two-point conversion try I mean you you do want if you're if you do say that
07:55This is a crew that calls a lot of holding there was a pretty obvious one of the biggest players
07:59I thought that too, but well i'm not gonna get fined. Yeah, we'll pay it for you
08:10I can make that commitment going forward hellman's will pay all of your fines
08:16And it's recorded or or we'll get land rover of norway
08:20I love referees, but but really like they're I mean they're in a difficult position too
08:24Especially as it comes down to the end of games like that. Yeah, and listen you won the challenge. I mean, uh,
08:30Went went your way. So I I the other one, you know, go ahead and bring up the other one. No
08:36Well, I mean we've been together way too long at this point I know exactly what you guys you know
08:41We're gonna ask all right, yeah, but that but on that play
08:44There was I didn't get a clear shot of it
08:47You know on that one that I know some people think I should have challenged
08:50I didn't get a clear shot of it and I would say
08:52You know the 49ers we lost that challenge last week
08:55We lost that challenge and I would say this guy had his hands under the ball more than those guys did. Yeah
08:59Yeah, gibral pepper is playing in the game
09:01When did you guys make that decision that he was going to not only be back at practice?
09:04But be playing in the game
09:05We just had to see what he looked like in practice and again
09:08He came off the commissioner's exemplus and was ready to go and I feel like watching that my first reaction immediately after the game was
09:14the colts approach is what we have been longing for for this team, which is
09:20Balls to the wall go for two whether it was the titans game or otherwise
09:23I feel like that is what I don't know what they're, you know, we'll go back in time here, but
09:28I feel like a lot of patriots observers want that from you
09:32Which is let's try and win every game if we lose whatever we're all trying to get better
09:36yeah, i'm always look I will say like, you know, we talk about the one score games and the
09:40You know, once you start going for it on every fourth down or going for two here
09:44that's when you get those real blowouts and so what I would say is
09:48I'm trying to do the the best job
09:51That I can with the team that we have right now and that's through
09:56taking care of the football
09:58Going out there playing with good fundamentals and I understand the frustration of go for two don't go for two
10:02I understand it 100% but at the same time
10:05I'm coaching this team here in the present and also we're trying to build a foundation going forward
10:10Well, yeah, our guy shime, uh back at the station had some coaching critiques this morning shime
10:16I don't know if you want to bring any of those up
10:18No, no, it's it's fine. Like I mean look
10:21That's what the game is and these questions that come up are symptoms of losing
10:25They're symptoms of losing football if we would have won the game then the critiques would have probably been a little bit different
10:31Yeah, I just have a question for general knowledge. Who is your ernie adams in game?
10:35You just stole my helmets question of the week, right right out from under how would I let me let me tease it
10:41um
10:41You can you can purchase helmets at your local walmart or grocery store to add extra deliciousness and creamy flavor to your game day
10:48dishes this football season and
10:50Not only is lack of communication. Oh, yeah, I know what that we have. We have a bullet time out here. Um
10:56Not only is curtis asking but boomer assiassin was asking this morning, uh who you're on headsets with
11:02I'm on the headsets with all the coaches. Um
11:05Look, I don't want to get into comparisons about ernie or anything like that
11:08But I do have a channel that I go to with um with evan and we have a conversation and ultimately it's my decision
11:14and so
11:15all the coaching critiques
11:17Like should go to me and not anyone else like all of those plays go for two not go for two
11:21Like that's all 100 me
11:24Gerard when you're when you're in that last situation, right? Because as i'm watching, can I ask a question?
11:29Hey, so if we if we were losing
11:32Look losing stakes regardless
11:34If we were losing games by let's just say 21 points a game
11:38Versus being in the games at the end and I I understand we've lost those games like which is better
11:45It's losing football. Yeah
11:47So you're saying night it doesn't matter. No, what i'm saying is
11:51We have to be able to control the ball we have to go out there and
11:56and play, you know
11:57Fundamentally sound and i'm not going to say conservative or anything like that
12:00But you're playing you're coaching and also playing to have a chance at the end of the game because we know these this
12:06The one score games like that's what the nfl is
12:08Well, it's also probably you don't have the track meet offense where if you're down 10 15 points in the second half
12:14It's not a team that likely is going to come back
12:18I'm just saying
12:20In other words, no, no, no, I mean you've gotten better at not answering this for sure for sure and i've learned not to talk about
12:27hypotheticals
12:32But my thing is like, you know going back let's go back like he's in the version. Hold on, let me get this. Okay, good
12:38I'm gonna tell you why it's frustrating for fans, but go ahead. Tell me
12:42No, I think it's frustrating because you are in these games and short of
12:48penalties
12:49You you would win these football games. I think and that's got to be really frustrating for you as well
12:54It is it is very frustrating and look we're we're doing everything we can to try to get better
12:58You know, and look we have a bye week
13:00We're gonna do a lot of reflecting and things like that
13:02We'll practice a couple of days and you know, hopefully try to string some games together. Yeah
13:06Well, here's here's no hypotheticals. Just take take me through and the fans
13:10first and goal it's
13:13Colts run run run and now it's the fourth and goal situation and and
13:18The the mindset of what defensive play call is there a call to maybe
13:24Put pressure on them or are you expecting and I mean another run like what's the whole mindset when they run?
13:31You know basically first and goal now
13:33It's a fourth down situation defensively to be a little bit more aggressive or maybe to play a little bit more zone coverage
13:40No, it's a good question. I would say before we even get to that point they converted three fourth down conversions on that drive
13:46Yeah, so look we make any one of those plays and the game has changed
13:50and then earlier in the show, we talked about the bar more situation and so
13:54it comes back to
13:56Defeating the person across from you and making the play and we just didn't do that
14:01All right. How was thanksgiving? It was good. You know, it's always good to be around family
14:05And look i'm thankful for a lot of things and I said it i'm thankful for the opportunities like to coach this football team
14:11I'm thankful to be here with you guys
14:12I mean I could be doing something else and I'd rather be here with you guys. Yeah
14:18But what I will say is look we will get better we will get better we feel like we have a
14:23We have a good piece at the quarterback position and now it's about just getting better and putting a better product out there for the fans
14:28They deserve more and i'll be better. It's a that run. He had yesterday was it's it's exciting
14:34I mean, he's really really used to do that in high school. Yeah, I did I would if I got off the bench
14:38He was actually running after hellman's
14:41Um, is that when you do you start I know you're probably going to tell me you don't get ahead of yourself
14:45But when you when you kind of look toward we've talked a lot with you about the roster when you look toward
14:50What this team needs?
14:52Is there an area?
14:54That you say is your number one focus. Is it is it offensive line?
14:58Is it getting him the weapons heat?
15:00Because I know you think about it. Yeah, I do think about it
15:02And I would also say that's part of you know
15:04This week for me like as much as you want to go on a beach and chill out like we just don't have time to
15:09Do that from a coaching or from a scouting perspective?
15:11And so this time is for us to reflect and and kind of address those questions that you just have
15:16And you're our last one for me because you had said you're constantly learning and you're constantly trying to grow as a coach
15:23What what are the things that you can you look at you go?
15:26All right
15:27maybe I like I shouldn't say this or sometimes I get frustrated and I say this and
15:32Like when you start to reflect there
15:35Are you like kind of working your way through because a lot of it is like media related
15:39like there's a lot of the stuff that you're working your way through saying
15:43I gotta approach things differently because sometimes I may say something that I believe but it gets taken out of context
15:50Yeah, my main concern has always been the guys in that locker room. Um
15:54Now look you guys can take comments that i've said and make them look like whatever you want
16:00But to me like most kingdoms, you know are taken down within and my job is for us not to be divisive
16:06But to come together, especially when there's so much noise and chatter on the outside
16:10Were you able to watch that? Uh that jaguars game and the trevor lawrence hit? Yeah, it was unfortunate
16:15You know anytime you see a guy go into that type of posture is uh, it's always a a scary moment for everyone
16:20Um, so thoughts and prayers out to to trevor and his family and the team
16:25Um
16:26What sorry you're over here looking at pictures
16:29Well, rob rob nick rob nickovic wants to know who's nose whistling on the microphone me you or wiki?
16:36It's not me for sure. Probably me. I got a little bit of a runny nose for some reason
16:40I can't catch it. I can't catch it rob
16:42I'm trying to put my mic up when it's a little red to your nose minko. Just get a job. I don't
16:48I mean, I mean like we're sitting do you have one for him? I mean, I don't have
16:52You don't have has he been asking him with the staff we have right now
16:55How's it been texting? He's listening to us right now and text you. Yeah
16:59He really extended his career far beyond what it should have
17:05He was like done in miami or new orleans
17:08Like you know the further you get away from your career like the stories you hear about some guys
17:12Oh, this guy's so smart. This guy made all the plays impact the same with myself
17:16It's like I heard people talk about me. I was like, oh, that was good. I wasn't
17:21You weren't that good speaking of coaches. I mean, how's hightower been what's it been like to work with him?
17:25A guy that did make all the plays. Yeah
17:28I like that. I like it. I'm gonna church you at some point
17:31Um, it's been great. It's been great
17:33It's been a great learning experience and I see him going through the same things
17:36I went through from a player becoming, you know, then having your own room and one of those is
17:41I mean, we're out here to win games and we're not out here. We are family
17:44We are friends, but you know, we talk about what family I can't fire my daughter or my son or anything like that
17:49But in this world, I think he's uh, he's doing a good job and he's coaching his tail off. All right coach
17:54Thank you. Thank you back at it. Enjoy the enjoy the vibe, but it sounds like you're working. I'm working
17:59Working the whole entire time