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はじめての美術館 2024年11月10日 北川民次展~メキシコから日本へ~ 世田谷美術館
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00:00Jin-Oji-San and Kirari-Chan's Art-Free Entertainment!
00:22The First Art Museum
00:30Mexican Snack
00:42Mexico!
00:43This is a country in the south of the United States.
00:47In Mexico, there is a shiny sumo wrestler who has had a surgery.
00:57A shiny sumo wrestler has had a surgery.
00:59Mexico!
01:01Clam chow!
01:05Have you ever eaten a Mexican octopus?
01:10What do you think a Mexican octopus tastes like?
01:14Sweet? Spicy? Sour?
01:18Sour! That's right! That's an octopus!
01:20Clam chow!
01:23So, Kirari-chan, today we're going to see the work of the Mexican artist, Kitagawa Tamiji.
01:29The Mexican Museum is full of works by Kitagawa Tamiji.
01:33In short, let's enjoy the Mexican Museum!
01:36Clam chow!
01:40Clam chow!
01:47Let's go!
01:49Stop it!
01:52What kind of image do you have of Mexico?
01:56Tacos!
01:57Saboten!
01:58A cheerful old man!
02:00This time, we're going to see the work of an interesting old man who has lived in Mexico for 15 years.
02:11So, Jin-Ojisan and Kirari-chan came to the Setagaya Art Museum in Setagaya.
02:19Hello!
02:21I'm Kirari Murayama.
02:22I'm Jin Katagiri.
02:23I'm Miki Tsukada and I teach at the Setagaya Art Museum.
02:27Nice to meet you!
02:29So, what kind of old man is Kitagawa Tamiji?
02:32Kitagawa Tamiji is a Mexican artist.
02:37He came back to Japan from Mexico and collected a lot of old paintings until he turned 80.
02:45So, he lived a long life.
02:47Yes, until he turned 95.
02:52Kitagawa Tamiji
02:58What kind of person is Kitagawa Tamiji?
03:01So, let's look at his self-portrait first.
03:04Wait, is this his self-portrait?
03:07Is this the first one?
03:09Yes, it is.
03:11It's amazing.
03:17It's weird to say it directly.
03:19Which part is weird?
03:21All of them.
03:23First of all, it's my butter.
03:26And this pork cutlet.
03:28The old man is holding a pork cutlet.
03:32Is this Kitagawa Tamiji?
03:35That's right.
03:36It's his self-portrait.
03:38What?
03:39It's his self-portrait.
03:40It's been a long time since he turned 80, right?
03:43That's right.
03:44Actually, this is the last self-portrait when I decided to stop painting.
03:52He's holding a hammer.
03:54Why?
03:55He's holding a brush.
03:57That's right.
03:58Why is he holding a hammer?
04:00Kitagawa Tamiji was a person who was very serious about his way of life.
04:07There are times when it doesn't match the times.
04:10He's doing what he believes in.
04:12He's going the way he believes in.
04:14He's doing his best.
04:16He's waving a hammer.
04:18He may have been laughed at.
04:20In some cases.
04:21But I think it's all about me.
04:27What's the grasshopper?
04:30I'm very curious about the grasshopper.
04:32The face of the grasshopper is similar to Kitagawa Tamiji's self-portrait.
04:36He looks like an old man.
04:38Glasses and cheeks.
04:43He looks like a beard.
04:46There are times when I was obsessed with grasshoppers.
04:51A grasshopper is a small creature that lives in the grass.
04:57But if there are a lot of grasshoppers, it becomes violent.
05:02It's not good to have only one grasshopper, but it's scary when everyone gathers.
05:06I'm impressed.
05:10It's a strange picture that makes you laugh at first glance.
05:13However, if you look closely, you can see that Kitagawa Tamiji, who became an old man, has a lot of feelings.
05:21Let's look back at his life as a painter from this work, which is full of Mexican feelings.
05:30The touch is different.
05:32It's fine.
05:35There are a lot of people.
05:37What is this?
05:39This is a grave.
05:41Everyone is heading over there.
05:45The weather is bad.
05:47The weather is bad.
05:50This is a familiar scenery for Mexicans.
05:55I feel like I'm living and eating here.
05:58Do you still have this kind of scenery?
06:00I may not be so relaxed, but I have this kind of scenery.
06:05It's a colorful house with a wall.
06:09I went here two years ago.
06:11Did you go there?
06:12Yes, I went there.
06:13Here?
06:14Yes, here.
06:15I went there.
06:16How was it?
06:18The feeling around here is different, but the shape of the church is the same.
06:24I'd like to show you a picture.
06:27This is the church.
06:29The church.
06:30Can you see this?
06:31Yes, here.
06:32If you get closer...
06:34It's the same shape.
06:35It's exactly the same.
06:37If you go further inside...
06:39It's the same.
06:41In this picture, the wall is white, but the stone is visible.
06:46It's a different exterior.
06:48This exterior is similar.
06:49Yes.
06:50This is a very Mexican-like exterior.
06:53It's like this.
06:55The weather is bad.
06:56Yes, the weather is bad.
06:58That's right.
07:00Actually, it's pretty good.
07:04If it were blue, it would be too Mexican.
07:09But the weather is bad, so it's moist and delicious.
07:15What kind of picture is this?
07:17This is a picture of Mexico.
07:19It's a picture of what happened to me in my life.
07:23Your life?
07:24Yes.
07:25What is it?
07:26What is it?
07:27What is it?
07:28Is it the birth of a child?
07:30That's right.
07:31I got it right.
07:33It's okay.
07:34You got it right.
07:35It's okay.
07:36There's a baby's head here.
07:38You can see it, right?
07:39That's right.
07:40I feel like I was just born.
07:42The girl with the cheeks facing the front next to her.
07:46This is actually Mr. Kitagawa's wife.
07:49What?
07:50Yes.
07:51Wife?
07:52It's a picture drawn when he was born, so I'm sure he's a child.
08:00Let's take a step-by-step tour of his life before he arrived in Mexico.
08:06Tamiji was born in 1894 in a house processing Shizuoka tea.
08:12But he wasn't interested in making tea, but in art.
08:18He left home at the age of 20 and went to America.
08:22And on his journey to become an artist, he stopped by Mexico when he was 27 years old.
08:32Why did you go to Mexico?
08:36I wanted to go to a place where more lively people were living.
08:42So I left America and went to a country called Cuba.
08:47After staying there for a while, I decided to go to Mexico.
08:54At that time, the art movement in Mexico was booming.
09:00I think he probably knew that.
09:04So I decided to go to Mexico and return to Japan.
09:09It's like going on a journey.
09:13Yes, that's right.
09:15I was looking for a way to live my life.
09:21So I decided to go back to America, Cuba, and Mexico.
09:29Now, here's the question.
09:31Tamiji Kitagawa went from America to Mexico.
09:35But on the way, a terrible thing happened in Cuba that attacked him.
09:41What happened?
10:04Tamiji Kitagawa went on a journey from America to Cuba.
10:09But on the way to Mexico, a terrible thing happened to him.
10:15He lost his passport.
10:18That's normal.
10:20He lost his wallet.
10:23I see.
10:25He lost all his money.
10:27The answer is close.
10:29He lost all his property.
10:32Not only money, but also his passport.
10:35He barely had his passport.
10:38But he lost all his belongings.
10:41It was the day before he decided to cross the border to Mexico.
10:45So he happened to have a ticket for the ship.
10:50But he had no choice.
10:52He had a ticket.
10:54He had no choice but to cross the border.
10:56He couldn't stay in Cuba.
10:58He had no money, so he crossed the border.
11:00That's the reason.
11:02He had no choice but to go to Mexico.
11:06He had no choice but to go to Mexico.
11:08He had no choice but to go to Mexico.
11:13He crossed the border in such a terrible state.
11:17But he was moved by the atmosphere.
11:20He was deeply moved.
11:22What did you like about Mexico?
11:28When I lived in Mexico,
11:31I was excited about the latest buildings and arts.
11:37But when I lived a little further away,
11:40I found a relaxed life.
11:43I found the extreme difference very interesting.
11:47I was impressed by the way of life of the indigenous people.
11:55I was impressed by the way of life of the indigenous people.
11:59I hadn't planned it at all,
12:02but I lived in Mexico for 15 years.
12:07Tamiji Kitagawa fell in love with Mexico.
12:11Here is one of his fascinating works.
12:19It's cute.
12:20It's cute.
12:22This is also Kitagawa-san's work, right?
12:24It's very different from the one before.
12:27Why is it a donkey?
12:29Why is it a donkey?
12:31Donkeys are very familiar to Mexicans.
12:37They are always there in their daily lives.
12:41They are drawn very naturally.
12:44It's like a different picture.
12:46It's like a portrait.
12:48It's very characteristic that they are drawn firmly and gently.
12:53Donkeys have horns on their beaks.
12:56It looks like they are drawn with a lot of effort.
12:59It looks like the sun.
13:01I feel like I want to pet them.
13:03I feel like I want to pet them.
13:05I think I really liked the way of life
13:10where I lived with these donkeys.
13:14At that time, Mexico was at the height of the mural movement
13:19that drew the history of Mexico on the walls of buildings.
13:22However, if you take a step forward,
13:25you can see the rich life of people and animals.
13:28I was impressed by that.
13:31After this, Kitagawa Tamiji came back to Japan!
13:37Episode 1
13:47Kitagawa Tamiji, who had lived in Mexico for 15 years,
13:53finally came back to Japan in her 40s.
13:58You came back to Japan.
14:00I came back to Japan.
14:01I came back to Japan a lot.
14:02You came back to Japan a lot.
14:04Is this grilled food?
14:06This is grilled food.
14:08Where is this?
14:10When Kitagawa Tamiji came back to Japan,
14:15her wife's hometown was Seto in Aichi Prefecture.
14:19Seto in Setomono.
14:21Yes, it was Seto in Setomono.
14:23She lived there for about a year.
14:27She really liked the town of Seto
14:33where she grew up.
14:36This is the picture she drew based on Seto.
14:42This man is spinning a wheel.
14:44He is spinning a wheel.
14:46The women are painting.
14:50There is a picture of a pot in the back.
14:57If you look closely,
14:59the man in front of her is very big.
15:03He is big.
15:04Compared to that, he is small.
15:08He is very small.
15:09He looks like a little prince.
15:11So, there is a sense of distance.
15:14There is an extreme sense of distance.
15:16The reason why I drew like that is
15:19because it was a popular mural movement in Mexico
15:23when I was young.
15:25I was told that it was influenced by that.
15:28A mural movement?
15:29Yes, a mural movement.
15:31In Mexico at that time,
15:33painters drew a huge mural of Mexico
15:37on the wall of a public building.
15:41There was such a movement.
15:44I drew it in an extreme way.
15:47An extreme perspective.
15:49Unlike ordinary size paintings,
15:52you can't see the whole picture at once
15:55when you draw on a big wall of a building.
15:57So, I drew a big picture of an important person
16:01in front of me so that it is easy to understand
16:04just by looking at it.
16:07Even if you look at it in a small place,
16:10you can't make it bigger.
16:12So, there is a unique perspective.
16:15This picture also feels like that.
16:19What he wants to convey with a picture,
16:22that is, to draw a message in an easy-to-understand way,
16:26is also a characteristic of Mexican murals.
16:29Because of that influence,
16:31he drew such a picture.
16:34What do you think?
16:36It's unique.
16:38Unique?
16:40What is this picture?
16:42I can understand the flower in the vase,
16:45but I think this is a picture of a child,
16:48an old man,
16:50and a mother.
16:53An old man and a mother.
16:57While many adults are watching,
17:00a child is drawing something.
17:03In fact, this is a work
17:05written by Tamiji Kitagawa
17:08to convey a message to Japanese education.
17:12The teacher of the radio said,
17:15if there is no picture,
17:18children will not know what to think.
17:21What made us like this?
17:24What do you mean?
17:26Tamiji Kitagawa uses a zoo in Nagoya
17:30and teaches a picture
17:33in a workshop during the summer vacation.
17:36So, the picture becomes vague.
17:40Why is that?
17:42It's like a child is drawing
17:45to meet the expectations of adults.
17:49I was shocked when I met him.
17:53Because he is a good boy.
17:56Everyone reads the atmosphere.
18:00It's fast to read the atmosphere.
18:03But I thought it wasn't the child's fault
18:06that these children read the atmosphere so much.
18:09I felt very angry.
18:14And in the picture,
18:17he conveys the message.
18:21It's intense.
18:23I wondered what it was.
18:27I thought it was strange.
18:30There are few people who draw
18:33such a direct message.
18:35It's a word.
18:37It's a word, not a picture.
18:39Do you understand the word?
18:41It's a word.
18:43It's a child's perspective.
18:46I see.
18:48It's a word that elementary school students
18:51can understand.
18:54There is a big gap from a donkey.
18:58It's a donkey.
19:01It's a donkey.
19:07Tamiji Kitagawa
19:12Tamiji Kitagawa is a painter from Mexico
19:15who has lived a hard life.
19:18Here is his work.
19:23The touch has changed.
19:26The mother's face is like Picasso.
19:33The background is like a field.
19:37There are mountains.
19:39The name of this painting is
19:42a tea field and a hat.
19:45Shizuoka.
19:47Shizuoka.
19:49It's a tea shop.
19:51I think so.
19:54The title is a hat.
19:57I feel like I'm a mother and a child.
20:00It's very different from the world behind me.
20:03It's very different.
20:05I don't know why.
20:07I don't know why.
20:09Tamiji Kitagawa started to paint
20:12the landscape of his hometown.
20:15It was after he turned 80.
20:18After he turned 80,
20:21he finally started to paint
20:24the landscape of his hometown.
20:27I've been running all the time.
20:30I've been living my life
20:33as a son who ran away from home.
20:36But when I look back,
20:39I think I finally realized
20:42that my hometown was there.
20:45Tamiji Kitagawa's work
20:48contains his life and passionate feelings
20:51in an energetic way.
20:53What do you think?
20:55What did you think of Tamiji Kitagawa?
20:58He is a very strange person.
21:01He has a very normal life.
21:04He has a lot of things in his paintings.
21:07He has a lot of things in his paintings.
21:10I think he has a lot of things in his paintings.
21:13For example, the donkey.
21:16For example, the donkey.
21:18This is a picture of him when he was an old man.
21:21But when I look at his paintings,
21:24I think he is a very strong-willed person.
21:27For example, the painting of homework.
21:30He is a warm-hearted person.
21:33He paints his own experience
21:36with his own feelings.
21:41Tamiji Kitagawa's work
21:44contains his life and passionate feelings
21:47in an energetic way.
21:52What do you think?
21:55What did you think of Tamiji Kitagawa's work?
21:58Please let us know in the comments.

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