Lavrov: U.S., don't stick your nose in the affairs of other countries!

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Lavrov: Impunity is a very bad trait!
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov gave an interview to the Sky News Arabia TV channel. In particular, Lavrov touched on the topic of the crisis in the Middle East and the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

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00:00I would like to touch on the topic of the Middle East.
00:09What is happening there?
00:11And in particular, the involvement of the West.
00:22There is also a lot of talk about a strategic partnership with the Iranians.
00:26There is news.
00:29That Russia has received missiles from Iran.
00:33There is also information.
00:35That Russia, in turn, is providing nuclear technology to Iran.
00:40They write about this, they talk about this.
00:44How can you respond to such accusations?
00:46And they say about our relations with Iran.
00:49And about the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, approximately the same.
00:53And with Iran.
00:54And with North Korea.
00:56And with any other country, our economic, political, military-technical and military
01:02interaction is carried out strictly within the framework of international law.
01:07Without violating any international obligations.
01:12If the United States invents 10 fables a day, accusing us of all mortal sins.
01:18This means nothing, it only means that they do not like Russia itself as a competitor
01:24in the international arena.
01:25I would like to emphasize once again.
01:28That in our relations with Iran and any other country, we do not violate any norms of international
01:33law, including international law that regulates military-technical cooperation.
01:39In principle, I believe that both Iran and its neighbors, the Arab monarchies, like other
01:45Arab countries, are interested in interacting with each other.
01:50These are countries of the same region.
01:53They inevitably have to live together.
01:56Next to each other.
01:57And of course.
01:58We fully welcome the process.
02:01That has begun between Saudi Arabia and the Islamic Republic of Iran.
02:06They have normalized their relations.
02:09And a dialogue is now developing on many other issues.
02:12And I am convinced that it is in the interests of both Iran and its Arab neighbors to establish
02:20good neighborly, normal, good relations.
02:23This will allow economic cooperation to develop in a way that is beneficial for the peoples
02:29of all these countries, as well as interact more effectively in the international arena.
02:35Defending the interests of the countries of the, as we say, Global South and Global East.
02:40During Joe Biden's visit to Saudi Arabia, it was said that China and Russia could fill
02:46the vacuum that the United States left behind in the region.
02:51How would you comment on this?
02:55Is there really a vacuum there?
02:57And what are Russia's relations with the local countries?
03:03And I would also like to touch on the issue of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
03:07You know about the vacuum that the United States leaves behind.
03:14First of all.
03:16If we just look at history over the past 50 to 70 years.
03:21The United States has set many goals for itself.
03:25And they have loudly and proudly declared this.
03:30First of all.
03:33These are the goals of introducing democracy in various parts of the world, Vietnam.
03:39What goals did they declare?
03:40What goals did they achieve?
03:45They killed hundreds of thousands of civilians.
03:47They use prohibited weapons.
03:50They did not achieve any goal.
03:52They got on helicopters and flew away.
03:56They spent an even longer period in Afghanistan.
03:5820 years, I think.
04:03They did nothing to develop the economy of this country.
04:06They boasted that they were suppressing the terrorist threat.
04:11And in the end they fled.
04:14We all saw footage of a plane literally crushing Afghans who were trying to fly away with them.
04:22They abandoned all those who collaborated with them to their fate.
04:27These are thousands and thousands of people.
04:30Look at Iraq.
04:32What goal did the Americans achieve in Iraq?
04:34Now the Iraqis are asking them to get out of there.
04:37For more than two years, the Iraqi government and parliament have been telling them, thank
04:41you very much, we don't need you anymore, they don't want to leave, and what do they
04:45want there, in Syria?
04:47What have they achieved in Syria?
04:48And what is happening between the Palestinians and Israel, well, this is generally frightening.
04:58Because experts cannot recall such a tragedy.
05:01Such a humanitarian catastrophe, and, you know, it will soon be a year since the beginning
05:07of this tragedy.
05:09But about a couple of months ago, statistics were published in the West, from, which it
05:15follows, that in the 10 months since the start of the Israeli operation, twice as many Palestinian
05:30civilians have died than in 10 years of the war in Donbass after the coup d'état in 2014.
05:35Moreover, in Donbass, both sides made the calculations, both the residents of Donbass
05:40and those residents who remained in the territory controlled by the KIV regime.
05:47More than twice as many people died in 10 months than in 10 years, of course.
05:52The terrorist attack on October 7 is outrageous.
05:55Of course, all normal people condemn it.
06:01But to respond to crimes with another crime, in particular, using the prohibited method
06:08of collective punishment of civilians, is unacceptable.
06:12And I remember you mentioned the vacuum.
06:16Speaking about the policy of the United States in the region.
06:19When the terrorist attack took place on October 7 last year, and Israel began this brutal
06:25operation, Antonio Guterres, the UN Secretary General.
06:30Speaking at the General Assembly, said that he condemned the terrorist attack, but that
06:35this attack did not happen in a vacuum, meaning that for many decades the UN decisions on
06:43the creation of a Palestinian state have not been implemented.
06:47There is practically nothing left of the territories that should make up a Palestinian state.
06:53And when he said that the terrorist attack did not happen in a vacuum, look at the reaction
07:01of the Israeli leadership, there.
07:04The Israeli representative to the UN in New York, who was in this position at the time,
07:09was hysterical, he demanded that Guterres be fired from his job, and so on.
07:15You understand?
07:18Impunity is a very bad trait.
07:24And we have spoken many times with our Israeli colleagues about the fact that the Soviet
07:28Union, our country, probably more than anyone else on this earth, did to save the Jews and
07:36to defeat those who unleashed the Holocaust.
07:40But not only Jews perished in the Holocaust.
07:43A huge number of Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Kazakhs and generally other peoples, who live
07:50on the territory of modern Russia, who lived on the territory of the Soviet Union, perished
07:56there.
07:58But when some figures are guided by the fact that we, the Jewish people, were victims of
08:04the Holocaust, and therefore everything is now forgiven to us, everything we want, then
08:11this is a very bad tendency.
08:13In fact, this is a sign of the very same exclusivity that was characteristic of Hitler's Germany,
08:25of Hitler's ideology.
08:27That is why I have many friends in Israel, and the vast majority of them understand perfectly
08:33well that the issue of creating a Palestinian state needs to be resolved, and that one cannot
08:41pretend to simply suppress the natural rights of the Palestinian people.
08:46When we talk about exporting democracy, which the Americans talk about, how does Russia
08:52today view the democratic process in the United States itself?
08:57And the assassination attempts on Donald Trump?
09:01The last case, which is also possibly directly related to Ukraine, and given that Trump's
09:09team as a whole is assisting Ukraine.
09:12I would say the following.
09:15What is happening now in the United States is also a manifestation of that very exceptionalism,
09:21the superiority complex that we just talked about in relation to the policy of the same
09:28United States in the Middle East, in relation to how they support the violations of all
09:36norms of international humanitarian law by the current Israeli leadership.
09:42American-style democracy is their invention.
09:47If they are happy with this system of government, which sometimes means that the president is
09:56not the one voted for by the majority of the population, but another person, then for God's
10:02sake, let them live like this.
10:06And let them leave others alone.
10:11I once talked to Candelia Rice when she was Secretary of State.
10:18And she once criticized the election process in our country.
10:26I gave her an example of the United States not having direct procedures for electing
10:30presidents.
10:32But rather two-stage ones.
10:33And in the end, it happens that the person who gets into the White House is not the one
10:39who got the majority of votes.
10:40She said, yes, we know about it.
10:43It's our problem.
10:44Don't worry.
10:46We'll figure it out ourselves.
10:48Fine.
10:51But then we need to apply the same logic to other countries.
10:54If countries, for example, in the Persian Gulf, think that they are comfortable with
11:02a monarchical system of government, if the population lives well, then what problems
11:08can there be?
11:10China has its own election system.
11:12We also have our own election system.
11:15When the United States says that they are fighting for democracy, it is simply misleading.
11:24They are fighting only to bring to power in various countries people who will carry
11:28out their will.
11:30That's all.
11:31They do nothing else.
11:33And it is very interesting, I am sure.
11:37That if you interview any American politician, ask them.
11:41When talking about democracy.
11:45Why do they mean exporting only their model around the world?
11:50Why don't they talk about democracy in international relations?
11:54They will never discuss it.
11:56They will tell you.
11:57That in international affairs acts in rules-based order and democracy, which is written in the
12:02UN Charter.
12:03I have already quoted the phrase.
12:06That the UN is based on the sovereign equality of states.
12:09After the creation of the UN and before the creation of the UN, especially, take any crisis
12:14situation in, which the United States participated in one way or another.
12:20They never respect the principle of sovereign equality of states in their foreign policy
12:24activities.
12:25So, as Candace Rice told me.
12:27This is our system.
12:29Leave us alone.
12:31I advise Americans to apply the same principle to all other countries.
12:35This is their system.
12:36Leave them alone.
12:37Don't stick your nose in the affairs of other countries.

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