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00:00to be able to express all the anguish, all the anger that is caused to him at this moment
00:06when he realizes that he lived a stage of his life with a lack of knowledge of such a transcendent fact as this
00:11and there, as I am elaborating it in terms of psychotherapeutic, he will be able, in this particular case,
00:17fortunately, to resolve that conflict, but it must be made clear that there are other situations of kidnapping
00:22which I am aware of, that on the other hand will have consequences for the rest of his life in the case of kidnapping
00:27not in this one, I am very emphatic about that
00:29But it is a tremendous demonstration of the moral crisis of a society
00:36when banality, when taking the life of a child, represents a check solution
00:43when destroying a family, doing that damage, simply because I have an economic issue, I have an economic problem
00:52listening to that reflection shows a banality, a frivolity in a crime of the most serious that can be committed
01:01such as the transformation of a human being into a slave, into a slave of another
01:07putting him totally at his disposal, giving him the sense of object, of currency, of exchange, which is really dramatic
01:17so, no, I am not going to give him death, no, forgive me, I was killing him in those two days
01:23and I was killing two days of a mother and a long time later, so it is not that simple
01:29that is why I think that this case should remove a little our consciousness
01:33to what extent we fulfill the values that we decide to have with strictness
01:38with a certain strictness, not in a fanatic way, but with strictness
01:44because here an atrocious damage is done with full frivolity
01:48and even today, when you see this report, you see that, of course, he is very sorry because the prison is very hard
01:55and it is good that the prison is hard for him, let's say, and I think it is very positive
02:00but from there, let's say, to say that this person has acquired values, different values, he has to prove it
02:09don't say to society, look, depending on how society welcomes me
02:13he has to learn to respect society
02:15if he does not respect people, why is he asking in exchange for what?
02:19he is asking for a preferential treatment
02:21is it risky, for example, for the child, for Jaimito, that this man is going out on Sundays?
02:26it is not a real risk for him, at the very least
02:32the experience shows that precisely this system in which society is proving the ability to live in society
02:38of the person who has committed a crime
02:40is the best of all systems for non-reincidence
02:43and that precisely this method has a control of society over him
02:48that at the slightest detail of failure in his conduct
02:53he will have to go back inside and there will be no benefit
02:56Jorge, I'm going to go back to Silvia's testimony
03:00and I would like to know how we can help that child
03:03it's good that this child is inserted in school
03:05that they don't start asking him morbid questions
03:08or try to inquire about things that he will not be able to answer
03:11and the relatives of the children who are his companions
03:14also have the concept of solidarity with Jaimito
03:17I would ask for that in public
03:19and the fear, that fear that you point out that he had for so long
03:23that he has also had his son, that maybe his son is starting to have now
03:27is that something that ends?
03:29I would separate
03:31I would say that my son is not going to be afraid
03:34I would say that my son is going to be very well
03:37because he is facing a reality and a truth
03:40which is positive that he faces
03:44he is going to have all the weapons and has all the support of his parents
03:48of psychologists, of friends, of family
03:51and he is going to be very well
03:53he is going to be a hero at this moment
03:55my fear, I hope to overcome it
03:58that's why it's something that stays there permanently
04:01always, until the day I die
04:03were you afraid to go out with him?
04:05I was very afraid, I held him very tightly in my hand
04:08I was accompanied for a long time, I was armed
04:12a lot of fear, but at this moment I am not afraid
04:16well, and with these reflections that Silvia was giving us
04:19we are going to say goodbye to our program
04:21I want to thank her especially for having accompanied us
04:24because her presence has been very important
04:27to know the testimony of one of the victims of the crime
04:30in this case of kidnapping has been very growing for this program
04:33also to our panelists Andres Dominguez, Jorge Agostini and Carlos Pinto
04:38with whom every Wednesday we are reflecting
04:42on different cases that the stories of Mea Culpa present to us
04:46we want to thank you for having accompanied us
04:49and invite you next Wednesday to another program
04:51thank you very much and good night
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