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Is the U.S. stumbling into a geopolitical crisis?
In this explosive episode, former CIA analyst Larry C. Johnson breaks down what he calls โ€œIran Scenario 2โ€ โ€” a dangerous escalation that could pull the world into deeper conflict. As Trump hesitates in his showdown with China, Johnson explores how Washingtonโ€™s foreign policy is unraveling on multiple fronts.

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๐Ÿ”น Why is Trump pulling back in the face of Chinese pressure?
๐Ÿ”น How are the BRICS nations shifting the global balance of power?
๐Ÿ”น Could U.S. influence in the Middle East be collapsing?

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Transcript
00:00hi everybody today is monday april 14th 2025 and our friend larry johnson is back with us
00:12welcome back larry hi there what happened in january good god i'm getting old man time's
00:17flying too fast
00:18larry let's get started with the talks between iran and the united states
00:28and i know that you wrote a piece on your website and you mentioned one of the options one of the
00:35outcomes could be some sort of talks out of those just the united states was talking about attacking
00:44iran iran said they're not gonna this way they're not gonna negotiate with the united but right now
00:50they're getting together they're talking to each other and here is what pete hex had said about the
00:57talks
00:58at direct talks yesterday they began in the past it's been indirect talks with a mediator but there's
01:05steve whitkoff meeting with the foreign minister of iran what can you tell us well i can tell you that
01:10president trump is dead serious on this issue he's he's dead serious uh that iran cannot have a nuclear
01:16weapon he's said that for 20 years he's been consistent that is clear dead he's dead serious
01:22that he wants it done at the negotiating table he wants it done peacefully and that's why he's going
01:26straight to these talks he set that deadline these were productive talks yesterday i don't want to
01:31get ahead of our skis steve whitkoff does a fantastic job but it was a good step and they're going to
01:35they're going to go at it again on saturday but he's also dead serious that if we can't figure this
01:40out at the negotiating table then there are other options to include my department uh to ensure that
01:45iran never has a nuclear bomb we hope we never get there we really do maria uh but what we're doing
01:50with the houthis and what we're doing in the region we've shown a capability to go far to go deep and
01:55to go big and again we don't want to do that but if we have to uh we will to prevent the nuclear bomb
02:01in iran's hands go ahead but you know nema i i'm dead serious about being dead serious because if i
02:11can't be dead serious then i'm not seriously dead but the more that i'm dead then i'm serious he's a
02:18moron good god oh we don't want to get ahead of our skis no pete the expression is out over your skis
02:28you should try skiing once in a while a look um
02:38i i predicted one of three possible outcomes outcome one number one is after a half hour an hour
02:48they would have questioned each the sexuality of each other's mothers and they said insulting things
02:54and stormed out well that didn't happen uh option two was they talked and realized that they would
03:03have something to talk about and would agree to meet again in the near future you know and
03:11maybe even announced the next day which is what they did the third option was that they
03:17you know they started talking and they extended the talks and then they came out and said you know
03:21we're going to continue this tomorrow or you know so that would have been the best outcome um
03:29what they've done now whitkoff comes back he's going to brief trump hey here's what we talked about
03:34here's what we agreed on here's where i think there's the possibility of an agreement and then at that point
03:42the zionist loons the crazies the israel firsters are going to descend on trump
03:48uh like a bunch of hungry chickens on a group of bugs they just peck away and right now it appears
04:00that the deal trump was willing to accept would be uh getting iran to reduce its level of uranium
04:12enrichment and accompanied by guarantees and inspections that they were not working at all on a nuclear
04:21weapon and i think the uh russians is you know part of whitkoff's confidence
04:30with dealing with the iranians and this came out of the talks and and the proceeded uh by a day in moscow
04:37that one of the items i guarantee putin talked to him about was the relationship that russia has with
04:44iran and russia's commitment to not seeing the proliferation of nuclear weapons and uh so
04:54you know that that deal doesn't call for what israel wants israel wants the libyan option basically
05:02they want all the iranians to be anally raped okay disarmed uh so that they can't defend themselves
05:11betrayed so that the west can do whatever it wants to it and you know they specifically want
05:19iran to get rid of its missiles dismantle all uh even you know peaceful nuclear energy projects which is
05:26ridiculous and to cut off all ties with the houthis hamas and hezbollah now ron said no we're we're not
05:33doing that what uh i'm not sure that trump and the the mario rubios the michael waltz hawks and his group
05:44understand is that uh this coordination between iran or iran with russia and china
05:54has been going on three weeks they started first in beijing is uh you know i think you you and pepe talked
06:03about that um and then it was followed up last week with uh another session uh you know they weren't
06:13getting together to discuss hey who's got a good price on a rug oh i'll tell you what uh you give me
06:18that rug and i'll give you the this this nice little doll no they were talking about
06:27what each country was willing to do maybe even recommending strat negotiating strategies to iran
06:35how to approach it anyway uh what what happened on saturday was the talks were productive
06:42now it's gonna the ball is in donald donald trump's court as i uh wrote on saturday this'll um this
06:53thing could still fall apart and if it falls apart i think trump remains committed uh to uh going to war
07:05with iran this is you know this isn't the world of rationality we're not talking people who are the
07:12logical and dealing with facts we're this is entirely the range of uh religious fanaticism
07:22and the desire to protect israel at all costs you know just notice the irony today you've got all of
07:31europe condemning condemning russia and the united states condemning russia because they killed 60
07:38officers who had gathered at uh you know a public building and there may have been some civilian casualties
07:46what do they say about the palestinians not a goddamn word
07:52nothing they murder the the the zionists murder women and children on a daily basis
08:00and it's not a matter of we believe we can see the images are horrific and the west sits silently by
08:11but russia who's being attacked by the west it has it russia has every
08:20good lawful reason under article 51 of the united nations charter
08:26to declare war on europe and the united states and bomb the hell out of us
08:33they don't do that so they're you know they're prosecuting this as they call it the special
08:39military operation to accomplish particular goals and you know when you listen to trump say
08:47you know if ron if ron doesn't negotiate if ron doesn't make a deal there's gonna be hell to pay
08:55he loves to use that you know i guess everybody in the trump administration is assigned to
09:01and a new phrase to get to use trump held a pay pete hank said i'm dead serious you know i'm dead
09:08serious here nema that um yeah we boy our military power we can go in there and wipe out iran and then i
09:18raise my hand and go question you started your military attack on the houthis on march 15th it's
09:29now 30 days how's that going oh yeah that's right the houthis just shot down their fourth predator in
09:39two weeks which some press says that those are 50 million a pop but i i've you know internet searches
09:48identity says 30 million so the united states with the greatest fight military machine in the world
09:57don't you know because when donald trump talks about it he's dead serious
10:04hasn't been able to stop the houthis and no it's just 16 months but yet they're going to go
10:13wipe out iran and two bombing runs god i mean this this is what the ray mcgovern would call
10:23delusional mel bovine excrement it's delusional mbe just crazy
10:32larry you've mentioned the fight with houthis and with yemenis here is what the commander of the u.s
10:39special operations said about the way that they're fighting yemen
10:44please use ten thousand dollar one-way drones that we shoot down with two million dollar missiles
10:49that cost benefit yeah just a little bit thinking the way that they're fighting yemen i think that's
11:00why one of the part of this sort of operation is the the economic part of the operation is that
11:08is that going to benefit the united states in the long run the way that he's describing here is not
11:13sustainable the way to fight the way that they're fighting yemen well you know just because we love
11:21to borrow money and spend money we don't have and enrich the military industrial complex what's wrong with
11:27that nema why do you hate america
11:33i don't actually
11:38i'm saying that is you know that's one of the charges that when when you try to point out this
11:43stuff the the craziness the contradictions uh the the disparities the disproportionalities
11:51they always come back is why do you hate america you know what you're telling us the truth by god we
11:57can't stand the truth this is um you know i don't know why people are surprised by this at least in
12:08the united states i've written about it extensively when it started and have said look this
12:16you this is something the united states can't it cannot win or prevail without
12:27putting a million man army in the field and attacking and taking over yemen now
12:36people say oh they couldn't do that well we couldn't do it anytime soon
12:39it'd probably take us five years to get to that point to be ready to do that um and so it's just
12:48that it's not a practical solution but without that practical solution that would you know cost how
12:57many god knows how many dead and the financial costs on it be astronomical
13:02this current approach of we're going to bomb we're going to look for these missiles we're
13:10going to try to spot where they're hidden we're going to blow them up and that'll that'll end the
13:16threat well yemen's been at war now for like 10 years a war that is against the west let's not let's
13:26not kid ourselves that they were indirectly they've been indirectly fighting the united states now for 10 years
13:30um you know us loves these proxy wars man we go out and make other people die
13:38we ruin the lives of other countries so far we haven't had to pay a price
13:43but in the course of that the yemenis the houthis dug underground deep i'm sure they had uh consultations
13:53and advice and guidance from iran and from north korea
13:57and so they've been able to build some pretty very secure locations underground and they got
14:06particularly deal with all the mountains good luck blowing through those mountains
14:12uh and so the united states its traditional method of using a fixed-wing aircraft to locate
14:19a missile or a satellite flying overhead said hey there it is you know it's it's it's at the
14:27the intersection of broadway and 55th street so then you've got to you know relay that information
14:34through a bureaucracy and it gets to the point where someone can make a decision and say okay yeah we want
14:40to strike that you got a green light go well who's going to do it are we going to launch a
14:46a submarine launch ballistic missile are we going to launch a cruise missile air launch cruise missile
14:53are we going to if i have a fighter jet fly off of the deck of you know so you got to make all those
14:58decisions and so by the time you get the decision so okay we're going to go hit their missile's gone
15:05they've moved it it's a mobile launcher you know they they can drive it around and we're not good at
15:12finding it and tracking it which is then that brings us that's why they're using the predators
15:19because the predator it's flying overhead and as soon as it spots it it can go oh there it is
15:23it can fire but it appears i you know i can't say this with 100 degrees certainty but it sure appears
15:32that the houthis have figured this out and they've developed let's call it bait they'll create some
15:41mobile launchers that aren't really launchers at all they're just dressed up to look like it and
15:47they'll drive it out into a particular area and then they'll put some air defense systems nearby
15:53and just wait you know sort of like a deer hunter putting out a block of salt to attract the deer and
16:01then they'll sit back there with the rifle and as soon as the deer shows up blam you know you kill the
16:07deer got a got your your meat for three months that that appears to be what yemen's doing so the united
16:16states militarily is not going to prevail over yemen with these tactics despite you know all the nonsense
16:25about mr dead serious himself pete higset
16:31larry i talked with colin wilkerson and he mentioned something about the diego garcia base
16:40he said that he doesn't understand why they have true they have chosen to use the diego garcia base
16:47because it's it's defenseless if they decide to go after iran to fight with iran yeah and and today
16:55we've learned yesterday we've learned that uae is providing the fuel to the bombers and everything
17:02in diego garcia mostly is is coming mostly the fuel coming from the uae iran can neutralize them in
17:10in in in two hours in in a day yeah yeah well he's absolutely right it's just
17:21i you know i think some people are making the mistake they think that the united states has
17:25actually really thought this through plan this out uh you know run the scenarios like i did say
17:31scenario one scenario two scenario three if we do one what happens if we do two what do we need to do
17:37differently they're apparently not thinking that way it's it's all emotion and uh you know the the
17:49frustration level for trump's gonna grow because you know the this they keep saying any day now any day
18:00these houthis are gonna give up come on come on get give up the houthis uh you know they've got a
18:08different uh timeline uh in fact i just i heard today that they've already they launched three new missiles
18:15a hypersonic missile attacks into israel one at bingurian airport running a military base yeah they're not
18:23giving up and they're not doing this because they're terrorists you know that you know that's just
18:31that's western propaganda they're doing it because they're fighting on behalf of uh the people of
18:37palestine and they're not just fighting for gasa it is the west the west excuses genocide in the name of
18:49fighting terrorism and when you step back and look at the definition of terrorism is the use of violence
18:59against civilians for political purposes the biggest terrorist in this right now is israel
19:07with the united states it's great enabler given all of the civilians is killing
19:12the people in the united states it's a very good question but yes go ahead yesterday they've hit the
19:19the the the only functioning hospital in gaza larry and as you mentioned nobody's talking about in
19:28europe they're just outraged by what's going on in ukraine and nobody's talking about yeah the only
19:35hospital they're attacking that they're not here it's it's okay to kill them they're just they're
19:41cockroaches they're cockroaches they're not human beings they're palestinians for god's sake they're
19:46not real people i mean you know you understand my sarcasm it is you know this is if this if it's hollywood
19:58or bollywood you know the indian version of hollywood tried to make a movie about this it would be so absurd
20:08there's just the the the the blithely ignore the tens of thousands of dead civilians and then
20:20you know cry cry rivers of crocodile tears over the death of 10 civilians in uh ukraine now
20:29then sue me and good i'm not uh suggesting that that that's good uh the rush up to this point has
20:38diligently tried to avoid civilian casualties uh whereas we've got a consistent evidence with
20:45respect to ukraine of them attacking civilian targets without regard that are not being used
20:51for military purposes so a difference but uh this um you know the the war is cranked back up in gaza now
21:02uh you know these yeah the israelis are killing palestinians and uh hamas uh reportedly killed uh
21:09you know two israelis today and the israeli military is already suffering a crisis internally
21:16with the number of reservists now saying hell no i won't go i'm not going to do this
21:20i don't know i don't know if there is any strategy behind that but
21:33come on you know come on man you know there's no strategy behind it he feels like he's a political
21:44and military commentator instead of being the head of pentagon this is a position yeah a very important
21:51position from which he's talking and he has to consider that i don't know if he knows what
21:58what what what the what's the meaning of prudent what no no he does not couldn't spell it either
22:04probably you know no he's just uh he's a bobblehead you know those those dolls that they got you got
22:13you know it's a like a plastic body and then there's a spring attached the head the head does this
22:20that's hegseth you got the secretary of defense bobblehead but he's dead serious did i tell you
22:32you know i'm dead serious when i talk about this i want you to understand you know i'm going to beat
22:38that to death because it reflects his inability to actually thoughtfully explain a policy
22:51and again they come up with this now oh this is all about freedom of navigation in the red sea
22:57no it's not uh this is about trying to help israel uh maintain their their genocide against the
23:06palestinians so this uh you know i know there's a lot of optimism surrounding the possibility of the
23:16united states and iran talking but you know what um eve smith reminded me that she's a very smart lady
23:28that it was in the course of negotiations with adam hockstein
23:32talking talking to nasrallah and nasrallah was meeting with his advisors to talk about what a peace
23:42agreement and the israelis took advantage of that to kill him
23:47so i don't put anything past this this crew this could be an entire charade on the part of the united
23:58states foolishly thinking that they can that they can defeat iran militarily that they can inflict so
24:06much pain on iran that iran would be i would give up and that iran can't inflict any pain on the united
24:13states or its allies oh heavens no because we're the best in the world yeah we keep telling ourselves
24:21lies um
24:23um so it's just uh what's unfortunate with someone in hanks's position is you need somebody that's
24:34uh actually been in command of people in war you know he led a company you know big deal
24:44um he doesn't have the judgment he doesn't have the fear to recognize that you know
24:53we could be making some choices and decisions here that will if we make them we can't go back and undo
25:00them and it can all fundamentally alter the world as we know it um because you've now got to take
25:10into consideration that iran has a military i'll say i'll call it what it is it's a military alliance with china and russia
25:23it may it's it's it's written down with russia i'm not sure it's written down with china
25:30but the the um aggressiveness of trump is attacks on china with the tariffs you know
25:41these people look at all of this as a whole they're not saying is the united states becoming more
25:48friendly more cooperative more helpful or are they becoming a bigger son of a bitch every day
25:56and abusing us
25:59you know you tell me what i see is abuse what i see is i don't see any one of these countries including
26:08russia even though they're they're happy that they've got some talks going with witkoff and
26:12that they're moving on some of the get trying to restore normal diplomatic relations i don't think
26:18for a minute they believe that the united states can be trusted is a stable normal negotiating partner
26:29i think you know it's it's like dealing with uh uh an abusive father who's a drunk
26:36and you hope to god he didn't come home drunk comes home drunk he's hitting everybody
26:43um one minute you know if he's sober he's okay but then he gets drunk and man
26:48you know everything turns into a weapon that's donald trump
26:54you know his um his approach to life and you know he got caught friday night
27:01where they backed off of uh some of the tariffs on china i mean you could read what they said you
27:10know it wasn't just the wall street journal it was announced uh uh through uh homeland security and
27:16even the commerce secretary let the uh said it and then trump goes i know we didn't know where no
27:23we didn't do that no no no everyone boy it's in place and then meanwhile china says okay all these
27:29rare earth minerals that you need that you don't have alternatives for you you know it's one thing
27:36to actually get the raw material but then you got to get the process the the the process and those
27:42factors can take four to five years to build okay so china's holding a lot of cards here and trump's
27:52trying to play you know pretend that we can bully china so china's hearing that and then china's seeing
27:58what they're trying to do with the houthis and so this all comes together uh you know united states
28:07we look at it as episodes separate episodes not related chinese and russians don't and the iranians
28:14certainly don't they they look at this as an integrated whole and and from that standpoint
28:20united states is the biggest threat to world peace today
28:24considering the intensity and the roughness of the the the competition between the united states
28:33and china last week i talked with alex craner he said that with the current situation that the united
28:40states is in and competing with china and what's going on with the conflict in ukraine if they go in
28:47iran if they go if they if they if they decide to fight a war with iran that iran would be the graveyard
28:57of the u.s empire because yeah yeah go ahead sorry to cut you off and i i don't know if these people who
29:09are working with donald trump like hexet like michael rubio i don't know if they do have such a deep
29:18understanding of what what's a what's at risk for the united states if they start a new war no no they
29:25don't they they they buy they buy their own male bovine excrement i mean they really believe themselves
29:34they believe we got the we got the greatest the bestest military in the world nobody's better than
29:40us nema look at all the wars we've run oh that's right we haven't run any since world war ii
29:48and you know talk when he talks about our great war fighters our great war fighters what are they
29:54good at they're good at killing unarmed civilians they're good at bombing factories that don't have air
30:03defense they're good at attacking countries that don't have uh air force i mean you know so but
30:12we keep telling ourselves you know if yeah i could be the greatest fighter in my street i could be the
30:19king of my neighborhood just as long as i only beat up all the kids make sure they're you know younger
30:24than 12 years old you know the small little bit yeah i can man i smack them around i am the toughest
30:32guy in the neighborhood then what happens when someone who's my size maybe a little younger
30:41shows up and says stop it
30:44no more also i'm in trouble that and you don't you don't have anybody in around trump
30:53with maybe the uh you know tulsi gabbard maybe
30:56but i'm not sure that he's calling her in to say okay tulsi tell me what you think
31:05you know trump is not gathering information
31:10from critics he doesn't he doesn't like people that are going to sit around and tell him he's wrong
31:16you know he's um he's convinced that he's certain that he's right
31:24and so if if he proceeds if if they ignore this chance to negotiate the deal with iran
31:34they will go down the path of this war and it will
31:37it will severely damage the united states and you know it's not going to bring an end to the country
31:46but it's uh it'll bring it into donald trump's presidency because once he gets beat in the field
31:53like that he's not going to have anywhere to hide in all of his uh fight fight fight fight nonsense
31:59is uh no people aren't going to listen to that anymore they're going to say you know you got us
32:10you you you sent us into uh a no-win situation that you promised peace and you brought war
32:19i said i've said you know for three months now trump entered office with a historic opportunity
32:28to really uh go down in history as the president who brought peace he he ended the threat of war
32:37in the middle east both in israel and in iran and in yemen he brought it into the war in ukraine
32:47and he uh got back on the good relations with china
32:53you know we've been we've been looking for an excuse to fight with china
32:58uh and uh you know we come up with different narratives about why they're the bad guys
33:05so instead of uh being being the guy who brings peace he is bringing uncertainty and danger
33:16there's no no other way to call it when you look at the way that iranian officials are talking about the
33:23talks negotiations with the united states they want to get a deal done as soon as possible and
33:32we know that russia and china are supporting iran because they know iranian officials are
33:36going they don't want nuclear bombs they don't want nuclear weapons that's why they can get a deal
33:41as soon as possible and we know donald trump is not a sort of character that wants to
33:48dragging on the the talks and negotiation going on for years and he's not interested in that as well
33:55but what it give it gives us some sort of hope that the both parties are not interested in just
34:02continuing the talks without reaching any sort of outcome but on the other hand when i look at ukraine and
34:09the way that donald trump is just behaving in ukraine the war that he he he could have ended so far and
34:17it doesn't he he doesn't need to do that much to to put an end to the conflict in ukraine
34:24in my opinion he can just stop sending intelligence weapons all of that and he's capable of forcing
34:31europeans into a new position but he's not doing that yeah that's why i'm not optimistic about what's
34:39going on between the united states and europe no yeah no i agree uh he is um
34:47he doesn't even understand the causes he understands up to a point the causes of the war in ukraine
34:55certainly doesn't understand a damn thing about the middle east you know when you heard him the other
35:02day that you know that somehow the israel gave the palestinians gaza all that ocean front property and
35:12they made a mess of it you know nice fairy tale but that's not what happened you know israel's been
35:22an occupying military force for 70 years 70 plus years um so you know the palestinians have legitimate
35:34grievances you know what you know the news media is not covering it hardly at all the fact that israel
35:40prevented 50 000 christians yeah they're palestinian but they're christians from uh going to bethlehem
35:48and uh you know following the the traditional christian celebrations of easter
35:57the jews won't let that happen
36:01now if that if that got covered appropriately here in the united states all of a sudden israel's
36:06the support for israel that's so blindly held by many of these evangelical christians
36:11would start eroding rapidly um israel is just uh you know it's it's it's earned it's earned a
36:22status as a pariah state it should be you know my view treated just like south africa was during the
36:30days of uh it's apartheid existence shunned by the world
36:35did you see the report that says in somalia they're preparing united states together with turkey
36:43uae and arab states in somalia they're preparing their forces there they're a new and somehow some
36:50sort of base there to attack yemen yeah i saw that uh what you guys say somalia
36:59what what are we doing in somalia um you know i remember good god 35 years ago black hawk down
37:11the u.s they were willing to get uh id'd and then that turned into just a complete disaster
37:18and you know the u.s pats itself on the back because we killed you know what uh five ten thousand
37:27somali citizens that day who were you know a little upset that we were going in and arresting their
37:34leaders no up there those somalis not understand their position in in the world and now they're being
37:43used by the west you know this sounds like bay of pigs too you know where you go a launch an invading
37:51force what are they gonna do give them row boats canoes sailboats but they're going to go land in
37:59yemen and start a fight there and let's say you know let's say let's say they can put together that
38:05kind of force how the hell do they sustain the logistics you climb out of a boat you're carrying
38:14let's say 60 pounds of gear which is ammunition and you know let's say 20 of that 20 pounds of that
38:23gear is ammunition you'll fire that you can fire through that in 20 30 minutes all of a sudden you
38:29need more ammunition but where are you gonna get that you know that's what these people just don't
38:35understand the logistics involved with trying to carry out uh sustained military operation
38:43where you're gonna you're going up against people who are fighting on their home turf
38:47they've already got their supplies stashed uh
38:50uh it's just madness so yeah that's the the reason they're talking about that is because
38:58they failed to do what they claimed that they were going to do they failed
39:06and what's in it for turkey to join in that sort of operation against yemen um
39:12um it gets to be the the biggest baddest uh leader in in the middle east
39:22you know the the those shia are a bunch of upstarts you know the turks are largely sunni
39:31so the you know they don't they don't want to let those shia have any kind of uh victory or control
39:38now turkey again is part of the problem in the area
39:46larry one of the reasons that it seems that the on the part of the united states at least in the
39:53mainstream media they're talking about is that there is no necessity to put an end to the conflict
39:59as soon as possible in ukraine and how do you think that they really feel that russia is somehow
40:10not capable is not capable of advancing on the battlefield and what's the reality really what's
40:16going on on the battlefield that they're feeling so comfortable they're just sitting just let russia
40:21lose let russia be weakened how what's going on right now in european on the well i'm not i'm not
40:29sure i'm not sure i agree with your characterization they're feeling who do you think is feeling
40:33comfortable at least the people the establishment in the united states i'm not talking about the trump
40:40administration i'm talking about those people who made this war in ukraine who who are the main
40:46party in the conflict who are much more powerful in europe and the link they have with europe well okay
40:54so you're you're basically talking the neocon crowd the victoria newlands and uh they're not at all
41:00comfortable they're they're panicked uh they're trying they're trying to figure out what what they can do
41:08what they can spin up so that uh that trump doesn't abandon the ukrainians you know that's how they're
41:17catching it uh you know i go to soda go to my website sonar21.com and look at the piece i posted up last
41:27night i list every village city town that the russians have captured inside ukraine
41:38since january of 2024 so we're now 16 months um it's and it's not just in one area it's all along
41:50the line of contact they are steadily moving forward if you do uh you know you get an ai search engine
41:58and ask the question um give me the list of the towns villages cities in inside ukraine that
42:08the ukrainian army has taken from the russians and held
42:14the answer there's none yeah they did last last august they invaded into kursk and initially they
42:20captured you know like 90 settlements you know settlement could be just a group of five houses
42:27clustered together and that's called a settlement uh and they you know their high point they call it
42:36the zenith of their land capture and that operation was in september 2024 and then since then uh the
42:44russians steadily shrunk shrunk shrunk shrunk shrunk shrunk until in march they took suza and then basically
42:51effectively driven all the rest of ukrainians out the ukrainians lost enormous numbers of equipment
42:56and personnel they're not in you know they made some raids into belgorod but again they
43:01they can't go in and sustain it hold it and keep moving forward and pushing the russians back they're
43:07not doing that you can't show me one case not one case in the last 16 months
43:12yeah they've went in they go hey we planted our flag and then you know two weeks later they're gone
43:19that's not what i'm talking about this is you know the russians if we go back to 2022 the russians
43:26captured mariupol a major city in six weeks they're still there they haven't abandoned it
43:35they've got the nets secured and uh uh lissy chance lissy chance has been secured you know you go down
43:45the list vulador they're in the process of taking pakrovsk uh so you know the russians are making
43:55progress then and they're in fact the pace of their progress is increasing now that's we're going to see
44:01more worry uh because the the offensive there was there was talk that they were going to be doing
44:08an offensive and many said yeah when's it going to start i i maintain i think it started a week two
44:15weeks ago it's just they're not out announcing it but they're you got to look at the activity and the
44:23where it's happening you know three years ago in let's say april of 2022
44:29the the military efforts would have been confined maybe to one sector of the battlefield
44:37but uh russia no longer has to do that they've got a 1.5 million man army and their logistic system is
44:43fully intact and uh you know they're gonna they're gonna continue to move and capture more and more
44:50territory and you know the longer ukraine delays the more i think i think at a minimum the russians
45:02are going to wind up back in control of kiev and odessa
45:08i don't know why donald trump does feel that with zelensky office in ukraine he's going to be able to
45:15make a ukrainian settlement with russia this guy says he hates pun he's and then he said he hates all
45:23russians and how is that possible to talk with this guy he's not the official president of ukraine
45:31and making these comments yeah he's not helping himself and no nor helping ukraine in any process of
45:37negotiations he should hire you as an advisor neema you speak words of wisdom no you're right no he's
45:46just he's his own worst enemy but uh and there have been more and more reports coming out about his
45:54his graft graft his corruption the money he's stealing by supposedly bought a platinum mine in south africa
46:04buying property and the mediterranean
46:08so and if he thinks you know at some point he can hit the evacuation switch and leave
46:16and won't be followed and ultimately killed i think he's he's kidding himself yeah he's going to wind
46:25up dead i don't i don't know if it's going to be his ukrainian nazis to kill him or the russians
46:32i think it's more likely the ukrainian nazis will do him here is larry what lavrov said about nato
46:44it have been dissolved in the first place after the soviet union ceased to exist after the wars of
46:50treatises to exist yeah the biggest enemy of nato is nato itself and uh those who were uh trying to use
47:00it to dominate in violation of their own pledges in in osc and it shows how serious nato the concept of nato
47:10is today for russia well you go in and watch the full his full uh presentation there in turkey
47:18um you know he said look uh we we used to do things on a handshake basis
47:26we didn't because we recognized that you can spend all your time trying to put stuff down in words
47:32but but when people break their word you know you're you're left having to either go to war or
47:39break off relations so he said we we put a lot of trust and he said we trusted the americans jim baker
47:46told us not one step east with nato and then we kept raising our complaints um the the way the the west
47:57likes to tell the story is you know russia's this imperial power imperial power we've had to stand
48:03against it um you know that's why we need nato russia didn't attack anybody during the 1990s the army
48:12wasn't capable they didn't have the military strength the economy was in shambles that's when they tried
48:20to join twice once whether yeltsin's request and the other under putin's um then you get the west
48:28continuing to you know they signed some agreements with ukraine in i believe it was 97 98 and it was
48:36about military cooperation because you know the west are the plans to dismantle destroy the soviet union
48:46or destroy russia take all of russia's resources break it up make it ours
48:55and um to that end in 2007 it was the bucharest nato summit that putin said hey you know don't do this
49:08and then out of that bill burns i guess in 2008 said hey it's a bright red line
49:13the make if you expand nato any further west it's russia's going to fight back and yet means net
49:24and what did we do well we encouraged uh the georgians with a lot of nato support
49:30launched that attack that led to a two-week war with georgia where russia crushed them
49:36and then all of a sudden see see these russians man they're they're trying to take over the world
49:43and you know the united states is leading the charge on that while we're
49:47you know bombing the hell out of afghans and iraqis in 2008 and then in 2011
49:58we're in we're stirring up a civil war in syria arming training and equipping jihadis
50:03we're the ones who are actually out there spreading unrest you know the the we took out the muammar
50:13qaddafi you know after promise hey give up all your nuclear your chemical biological weapons man you'll
50:21be our best friend forever bffs dude and he was dumb enough to believe us
50:35i look at ukraine russia tried so hard they did everything to avoid the war in ukraine
50:41yeah don't come don't start this war and they're losing it larry china said don't sanction us don't
50:51put tariffs on us the way that you're witnessing that donald trump just backing down on computers and cell
50:59phones what was what's the necessity of this and the war with iran the same way i would see the same
51:06sort of outcome what is is is there gonna do you think that are we i'm i'm still hopeful about
51:15with god with the case of ukraine and iran and maybe with china i i don't know if is is he the only
51:24rational figure in the trump administration well let's um you know my my dear friend pepe
51:31uh on one of your your last conversation with him was excoriating what call for being a real estate
51:39developer um and i i i disagree with my with pepe he's a lawyer and i think he's a lawyer before he is
51:51some real estate wheeler and dealer uh because notice that with lawyers gee who else is a world leader that
52:00we know as a lawyer oh that would be oh vladimir putin so lawyer and you've been you've been around
52:08some lawyers right nema they have a particular way of looking at the world and the really good lawyers
52:17they have a way of going what are the facts what is the evidence let's lay it out what are the
52:24implications what's the risk they're always talking about managing risk don't create risk for yourself
52:31how to reduce that risk so that's why i think actually when putin and whitkoff get together
52:37man they're talking yeah putin was educated in a soviet legal system and whitkoff in an american legal
52:44system but the the training for lawyers is somewhat similar and so they end up having
52:51if you will a common language by which they can talk and i and i think that's actually one of the
52:57things that helped uh push these talks along so uh whitkoff's trying to look at it from a rational
53:05standpoint the problem whitkoff has is when he you know he's briefing trump today i'm sure maybe briefed
53:12him yesterday uh there's gonna the zionist crowd is gonna rise up and outrage and try to sabotage this
53:23and you know we could wind up with the meeting getting postponed or trump sending someone else to do
53:30the negotiation not whitkoff uh you know there are some accusing whitkoff already of being a puppet of
53:38poop he's pushing putin talking points so you know we're gonna find out we're gonna find out if
53:46trump is serious about peace or not uh is he gonna back whitkoff or not uh is he gonna really
53:54trump needs a victory right now because he's things aren't going well for him in ukraine things aren't
54:01going well for him with china if he pull if he gets iran say hey iran's not going to build a nuclear
54:09weapon we've got the guarantees we've got the assurances it's not going to happen i got i got
54:14us a peace deal and most of us will then say great you've gone back to the jcpoa which you canceled
54:22five years ago but it's good glad you you know glad you came around
54:26and you know did you watch anthony blinken's recent interview about ukraine he said we had
54:36differences with the government in ukraine yeah i'd be larry i wouldn't be surprised
54:43with the article in the times that they're talking about they were the british army the british military
54:51was behind the counter-offensive in 2023 that failed counter-offensive no no no no no that that it was
55:00the us that was a u.s brainchild the brits uh you remember there were there were those in that the
55:08kid in massachusetts that leaked those intelligence documents back then uh you know there were some
55:15they already had the intelligence assessments about you know when ukraine was going to run out
55:20of air defense systems etc now that was a that was a u.s plan the british were part of it
55:28definitely part had a role but i think that was a brainchild of the united states
55:36and in the terms of the differences that anthony blinken was mentioning he was
55:41trying to say that donald trump is not capable of managing the disagreements that that exists between
55:48the united states and ukraine or he was pointing out something else what was the main point of that
55:56sort of argument on his part well i'm not i'm not sure what the main point was i mean this is this
56:01just i i chalked it up to political noise you know look blinken biden sullivan and company along with
56:09floyd austin they made a disaster of ukraine and now it looks like donald trump is trying to
56:16one-up them making an even bigger mess we'll see he either he either brings it into the war
56:24or uh he's faced with uh doubling down and expanding the war and if he does that uh russia's russia's russia
56:33russia will win this they are winning this the the you know sort of uh the die is cast
56:43yeah
56:45i really do feel that wick of is capable of doing that he's capable yeah no he is he's so much when
56:53he talks he makes sense yeah he makes a lot of sense well he's like i said he's speaking like a lawyer
56:59you know um you know some of uh i'm not sure how much of a zionist he is you know does he how deeply
57:11held his religious views are um he at least would uh he failed to meet with hamas but at least he met
57:22you know shirkans with uh uh or yashi uh the the iranian foreign minister
57:29that's positive sign the uh the zionist crowd though in washington
57:38they don't want just a deal on the the nuclear weapons is an excuse okay that's all it is
57:45it is an excuse to get rid of iran if iran didn't even have a nuclear program if they weren't even
57:54enriching uranium they had no uranium the they'd still be demanding that they've got to give up
58:01their army that's got to stop supporting and that they got to they got to die we haven't forgiven them
58:08for taking over our embassy uh good god 46 years ago
58:20and i did i did they didn't forget about the case of mossad yeah yeah yeah
58:28yeah that's why let's say bygones let
58:38great pleasure as always larry to talk with you well hopefully i haven't ruined your week
58:43i've gotten you off to a decent start not at all all right my friend see you soon we'll see you on
58:50friday see you bye-bye okay bye-bye
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