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📉 Is this the beginning of a new era of ideological suppression in the U.S.?
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💬 What does it mean when an institution starts condemning beliefs and thoughts?
📉 Is this the beginning of a new era of ideological suppression in the U.S.?
📚 Maté explores:
🔹 ICE’s controversial stance
🔹 Free speech under threat
🔹 The broader implications for democracy and civil liberties
🧠 A must-watch for anyone who values intellectual freedom and the right to dissent.
✅ Like, comment, and subscribe to stay informed on real issues affecting your rights.
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00:00Transcribed by —
00:30Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
00:35Today is Wednesday, April 16th, 2025.
00:40Aaron Maté will be here with us in just a moment on ICE, Immigration Customs Enforcement.
00:49Are they in the business of deciding what ideas are illegal?
00:55Yes, they are, even though they're trying to hide it.
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02:27Aaron Maté, welcome. Welcome here, my friend.
02:30Before we get to the government trying to suppress ideas or claiming that some ideas are illegal,
02:40do you get the feeling that the neocons are becoming resurgent in Donald Trump's administration?
02:49Absolutely. The fact that you have Zionist groups able to get students deported for thought crimes,
02:57the latest being this young student in Vermont who was on his way for a citizenship appointment,
03:03and then gets nabbed, and you look at his record, and he's talking about,
03:07you know, on top of fighting for Palestinian freedom, he's also calling on anti-Semitism.
03:13It's almost as if they're selecting people who are actually models for civility,
03:20and saying even if you go out of your way to be civil and to do everything possible
03:26to call on anti-Semitism from your perspective as a Palestinian rights activist,
03:31we're still going to deport you, simply because you support Palestinian rights,
03:34and you're Palestinian, as is the case with this young man in Vermont.
03:39So in that respect, the neocons are totally dominant inside the White House.
03:43Now, there are some issues where they're not getting fully their way, like in Ukraine.
03:47There's obviously a split between someone like Steve Witkoff and J.D. Vance on the one hand,
03:53and then you have Marco Rubio, Mike Waltz on the other, who don't seem very keen on peace in Ukraine.
03:58And that extends to other issues as well, also on this issue of whether or not the U.S. will go to war with Iran.
04:04There's a split inside the Trump White House.
04:06But policy-wise, what have we seen so far?
04:09Well, on top of the enforcement of censorship at home, there's also threatening Iran,
04:15talking about making peace in Ukraine, but not really doing very much in the form of concrete steps.
04:20So I think Trump himself reflects those divisions.
04:24He doesn't know who to listen to yet.
04:26But on some issues, like when it comes to censoring pro-Palestine speech,
04:30or just speech that respects Palestinians as human beings,
04:33Trump is following neocon Zionist orders.
04:36Hasn't ICE proclaimed in a now-deleted post that its job is to prevent the spread of illegal ideas?
04:47And, of course, in America, how could any idea be illegal?
04:52It's an idea. It's a thought.
04:56Max Blumenthal calls ICE Israel censorship enforcers, and that's exactly what they've become.
05:02They censor people in the U.S. on behalf of Israel.
05:06And, yeah, there was a post on social media bragging about all the things that—
05:09or touting all the things that the Department of Homeland Security prevents from crossing the border.
05:14And one of them is—it's not just crime or drugs.
05:17It's ideas, bad ideas.
05:20It's out of Orwell.
05:21It's out of Orwell.
05:21And, amazingly, those ideas all concern a foreign country.
05:26So under the Trump administration, they'll still tolerate some criticism of the U.S.,
05:31but they won't tolerate criticism of Israel.
05:34How does that make sense?
05:35So you can be anti-Palestinian, but you can't be anti-Semitic.
05:42You can say whatever you want about the suffering of the Palestinian people,
05:47but if you come out in favor of the two-state solution,
05:51and you are from the Middle East, and you are here on a student visa, you're gone.
05:57Yeah.
05:59Yeah.
06:01Yeah.
06:01That's the world we're living in.
06:03And, again, this is an administration that came to power with a really good argument about Democrats,
06:08that they were the party of censorship.
06:10And they were.
06:10They were on many issues.
06:12We know that from the Twitter files.
06:14There was pressure on social media companies to censor dissenting views
06:18or that weren't in line with the consensus when it comes to COVID and lockdowns.
06:22And, you know, in my case, the FBI under Joe Biden asked Twitter to censor me on behalf of Ukraine
06:31because the Ukrainian intelligence service sent the FBI a list of accounts they wanted censored on Twitter,
06:36and my name was among them.
06:38And the FBI handed that over.
06:40That came out from the Twitter files.
06:43And that was the basis for Trump and his campaign, you know,
06:46that act of attempted censorship and many others for say,
06:48look, this is the party of censorship, and we're going to restore free speech.
06:51And they had a strong argument until they got power,
06:54and they went far beyond what Biden ever did by literally trying to deport people
06:58for having views they don't like about Israel.
07:02So they took the Biden censorship regime and they put it on steroids.
07:07One of the neocons that you and I did not mention a few minutes ago,
07:13who, according to the Wall Street Journal, still has President Trump's ear,
07:19is General Kellogg.
07:23Kellogg just came out with the most absurd proposal,
07:27almost as if he's been living in a cocoon for the past two and a half years,
07:32if he thinks that the Russians would accept this.
07:35This is a so-called division of Ukraine,
07:37and the gubernatorial elements run by European allies,
07:46much as was done to Germany in 1945.
07:49And where does he come up with something like this?
07:52You know, Kellogg...
07:53Send Steve Witkoff to meet for five hours with the president of Russia,
08:00and then dispatch General Kellogg to make an offer like this.
08:05Trump is incoherent policy-wise.
08:07He has all these people around him.
08:08He probably likes them personally.
08:09He probably likes having them around.
08:11But policy-wise, there's no single guiding direction.
08:16It's just a bunch of people who he likes,
08:17and I think he's still figuring it out as he goes along.
08:20You know, Keith Kellogg said that the Biden strategy
08:23of using Ukraine to fight Russia,
08:26he called it the acme of professionalism.
08:29It was wonderful that we were using Ukraine to fight Russia.
08:33He said this in congressional testimony a few years ago.
08:37So this is who Trump has as his envoy to Ukraine,
08:41while also dispatching another envoy to the Middle East,
08:43Steve Witkoff, to go meet with Vladimir Putin.
08:45It just makes absolutely no sense.
08:47And now, it's my impression that Keith Kellogg has been sidelined,
08:51and isn't doing very much.
08:54But he's still there in his position,
08:55and he's still putting out policy proposals like this
08:58and statements.
08:59He put out a statement about the Sumi attack the other day
09:01where Russia killed a number of civilians,
09:03and he issued a very, very harsh condemnation.
09:07But what was overlooked there,
09:08and again, I'm not trying to justify killing civilians.
09:10Nothing can justify that.
09:12But what the media ignored here, and Kellogg ignored,
09:13was that Russia was actually targeting
09:15a military ceremony in Sumi.
09:19And this is such a scandal now inside Ukraine
09:21that the governor of Sumi has been dismissed
09:23because he's been accused of basically endangering Sumi
09:26by hosting this military ceremony in there,
09:29by giving Russia a pretext to launch an attack.
09:32And by the way, among the people killed in this attack in Sumi
09:35was the commander of the Ukrainian division
09:37that uses HIMARS rockets.
09:39And who uses those HIMARS,
09:40or who is guiding,
09:42or who has been guiding and directing those HIMARS strikes?
09:45It's the U.S.
09:45A few weeks ago, we got that New York Times article bragging
09:48about how the U.S. oversees every single HIMARS strikes
09:51and that these HIMARS strikes have caused,
09:54I'm quoting here,
09:55Russian casualties to soar.
09:57So after New York Times comes out with this piece
09:59bragging about how HIMARS are used to kill Russians,
10:02Russia goes and kills the Ukrainian head of a brigade
10:05that uses HIMARS in Ukraine.
10:07And this is just an example of how the proxy war
10:09endangers Ukrainians.
10:11It doesn't justify Russia killing civilians,
10:13but it shows how, I mean, this attack on Sumi,
10:16it came out of years of war
10:19in which U.S. weapons were being used to kill Russians.
10:23According to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov,
10:27there were also NATO officials present
10:30at that ceremony who were killed.
10:33I wonder if any were Americans,
10:35and if so, if the Trump administration
10:37will treat that the way the Biden administration did,
10:40but claiming they had a heart attack elsewhere.
10:43Well, I have to wonder if Lavrov's telling the truth.
10:46I have a hard time believing that Russia
10:48would target a military gathering
10:49if NATO military officials were there,
10:52because Russia's been pretty restrained so far
10:54when it comes to escalating this war.
10:56In fact, the whole premise of,
10:57the whole reason this proxy war has gone on for so long
10:59in the way it has
11:00is because Russia has not escalated
11:02in the ways that the U.S. has.
11:04The U.S. kept crossing its own red lines.
11:06You know, Biden ruled out using some weapon systems
11:09that he allowed them.
11:10Biden ruled out using those weapon systems
11:13for strikes into Russia.
11:14Then he allowed them.
11:15It's Russia that's been restrained so far.
11:17So is Lavrov now seriously claiming
11:19that the U.S. targeted a gathering
11:21where NATO military officials were present?
11:22I actually have a hard time believing that.
11:25And there's been no...
11:25Interesting commentary.
11:27I hadn't thought of it that way, Aaron.
11:29I'm going to run a piece that I know you have seen
11:32because I've seen you and Max comment on it.
11:37It's Prime Minister Netanyahu in the Oval Office
11:40after Trump gave his rather pedestrian,
11:46I'm being charitable,
11:46understanding of the origins of the Israeli-Gaza dispute.
11:56Netanyahu jumps in as if to bail Trump out.
11:59Cut number 19.
12:00I think what the president talked about is,
12:02first of all, to give people a choice.
12:05You know, Gaza...
12:06Gazans were closed in.
12:08And any other place, including in arenas of battle,
12:11I mean, whether it's Ukraine or Syria or any other place,
12:14people could leave.
12:16Gaza was the only place where they locked them in.
12:19We didn't lock them in.
12:20They were locked in.
12:22And what is wrong with giving people a choice?
12:25Now, we've been talking, including over lunch,
12:28about some countries,
12:29I won't go into them right now,
12:32that are saying, you know,
12:33if Gazans want to leave,
12:35we want to take them in.
12:36And I think this is the right thing to do.
12:40If you give...
12:41You know, it's going to take years to rebuild Gaza.
12:43In the meantime, people can have an option.
12:45The president has a vision.
12:47Countries are responding to that vision.
12:49And we're working on it.
12:49And I hope we'll have good news for you.
12:53We didn't lock him in.
12:54Let's see how many ex-IDF generals
12:58have referred to Gaza
12:59as an open-air concentration camp.
13:01Where does he come up with something like this?
13:03And why didn't the press challenge him?
13:06Well, that's a great question.
13:07Why didn't the press challenge such a malicious lie?
13:09I think one of the most malicious lies
13:11that's ever been told in the White House,
13:13and that's a very, very high bar.
13:15Right.
13:16You know, Israel has put Gaza under siege
13:19for two decades
13:20to the point where even cancer patients
13:23have been denied the permission to leave
13:26and get treatment over the years.
13:27And this is long before October 7th.
13:29So Israel locked the people of Gaza in.
13:31Egypt participated in that blockade,
13:33but it was led by Israel.
13:38And now Netanyahu basically wants everyone to leave.
13:41And he talks about them going to live somewhere else
13:43and then they can come back.
13:44No, they don't want them to come back.
13:45They want to permanently, ethnically cleanse Gaza.
13:48And he talks about how there are other countries
13:50that are expressing a willingness
13:51to let in Palestinian refugees.
13:54What countries are those?
13:56Do you think Jordan,
13:57which already has a majority Palestinian population,
14:00ruled by a monarchy
14:02that doesn't have a lot of,
14:05has some popular support,
14:06but not, I don't think the majority,
14:08not a lot of people.
14:11So there's a lot of dissension.
14:14There's a lot of unrest in Jordan or Egypt.
14:17Do they want to bring in
14:182 million Palestinian refugees from Gaza?
14:19So what is he talking about?
14:20How other countries want to bring Palestinians in?
14:24I think what he's talking about
14:24is we're trying to coerce other countries
14:26to accept Palestinians
14:28and we're threatening them
14:30and we're offering them enticements.
14:32That's what he's talking about.
14:33But this claim that
14:35Palestinians have been free to go wherever they want
14:37is just such a lie.
14:38And that denial of freedom
14:40starts with the denial of their right
14:42to return to their own homes.
14:43That's the majority of people in Gaza.
14:45It's refugees and the descendants of refugees
14:48who come from homes that Israel stole from them
14:50inside Israel, starting in 1948.
14:53And many Palestinians in Gaza
14:54still have the keys to those homes,
14:56whether those homes still stand or not.
14:58That's where they come from.
14:59And that's where Israel's never allowed them to return.
15:02And now to continue that ethnic cleansing process
15:04wants them to go somewhere else.
15:05That's been Israel's plan all along.
15:07And that's why we still have mass murder
15:09being carried out inside Gaza
15:10and not a ceasefire
15:11in which hostages are going home.
15:14It's because Israel wants to continue
15:16its ethnic cleansing project
15:17and it has President Trump's full support.
15:20When I was in college
15:22in the late 60s and early 70s,
15:24the issue of the right of return
15:27was a hot button.
15:30Did any of them get the right to return
15:33under a more benign Israeli leadership
15:36or have all Israeli prime ministers
15:39since 1948 precluded
15:43and prevented the return?
15:47The most accommodating Israeli leaders
15:50when it comes to in peace talks with Palestinians
15:52have been the labor governments
15:53of Yitzhak Rabin, Ehud Barak,
15:56and then Ehud Olmer.
15:58None of them, none of them
16:00were willing to accept responsibility
16:02and even apologize to Palestinians
16:05to acknowledge the loss of,
16:08the theft of their homes
16:09and ethnic cleansing in 1948.
16:11None of them.
16:11I mean, this came up in the discussions
16:12in the Oslo years,
16:14in the Tava talks of the early 2000s,
16:16and in the future talks
16:18between Mahmoud Abbas
16:19and Ehud Olmer in the mid-aughts.
16:22And no Israeli government,
16:23even the most far-reaching one
16:24from an Israeli perspective,
16:25was willing to acknowledge
16:26Israeli responsibility for the Nakba,
16:29which for Palestinians,
16:30I mean, this is the start
16:31of their suffering.
16:33That's why the Nakba,
16:35you know, it's called the catastrophe
16:36because this was their nightmare.
16:37Now, of course,
16:38they're living through a brand new one.
16:40And I've always, you know,
16:41by contrast,
16:42the Palestinian leadership
16:43led by Yasser Arafat
16:45and then Mahmoud Abbas,
16:47if you go and talk to the participants,
16:48if you read the documents
16:49from that period,
16:50they were willing to accept
16:51some sort of symbolic gesture,
16:54a token number of refugees
16:55being allowed back in.
16:57But otherwise,
16:58they were essentially willing
16:58to give up the right of return.
16:59They just wanted some acknowledgement
17:01by a token acknowledgement
17:03of the suffering
17:04and just the fact
17:05of the ethnic cleansing
17:06that began in 1948.
17:08But even these far-reaching
17:10so-called Israeli leaders
17:11who were willing to talk peace
17:13with Palestinians
17:13weren't willing to do that.
17:16How far to the other extreme
17:18is Netanyahu?
17:20Does he embrace
17:22the most extremist elements
17:25in Zionist ideology?
17:28Well, over the years,
17:31he's sometimes showed
17:33that he stakes a middle ground
17:36between himself
17:36and the ultra-extremists.
17:38But at this point,
17:39who is he allied with
17:40in his government?
17:40It's the ultra-extremists.
17:42What is the policy
17:43he's carrying out in Gaza?
17:44It's the ultra-extremist policy.
17:45That's why when he renewed
17:47the genocide in Gaza
17:48by relaunching
17:50a military campaign,
17:51some of the ultra-extremists
17:53who had resigned
17:53from his cabinet rejoined
17:54because they were so thrilled
17:56with his policies.
17:57So whatever his own
17:58personal views are,
17:59I don't think he's personally
18:00as religiously extreme
18:02as some of the people
18:03in his cabinet.
18:04But in terms of policies,
18:05he's carrying them out
18:06right now.
18:06Yes.
18:07Isn't the essence
18:08of Zionism
18:09an ethnic superiority
18:12of such magnitude
18:14it justifies the slaughter
18:16of lesser peoples?
18:19Yes, it is now.
18:20Certainly.
18:20Now, has it always been that way?
18:21Well, there were Zionists
18:23a long time ago,
18:24more than 100 years ago,
18:25people like Ahad Ayam,
18:26who wanted to have
18:27a Jewish national home,
18:29a place that could somehow,
18:30you know, preserve
18:30and honor Jewish culture,
18:33Jewish traditions,
18:33without privileging
18:35the rights of Jews.
18:36And that's the kind of Zionism
18:37that Noam Chomsky
18:38identified with
18:39and that I identified with
18:40growing up
18:40because especially
18:42in the aftermath
18:42of the Holocaust,
18:44I think it's important
18:44that any people
18:45that is persecuted
18:46has a place
18:47that protects their culture.
18:49So I see no problem with that.
18:50The problem comes
18:51when you start to,
18:52you know,
18:52exert your rights
18:53at the expense
18:54of someone else
18:54and then in the case
18:55of Palestine,
18:56do it on someone else's land.
18:57I mean, that's the problem
18:58with Palestine.
19:00But Zionism didn't always mean
19:01what it means today,
19:03which absolutely
19:04is ethno-supremacism.
19:08You know,
19:08a funny story.
19:09My great-grandfather,
19:11Joseph Lovie,
19:12who was killed
19:12by the Nazis,
19:14he was friends
19:14with one of the most
19:15fanatic Zionist leaders,
19:17Jabotinsky.
19:18Zab Jabotinsky.
19:19And Jabotinsky was honest,
19:21though,
19:21about Palestine.
19:22He said,
19:22the Zionism is a colonizing adventure
19:24and therefore,
19:25it stands or falls
19:26by the question
19:26of armed force.
19:27And he explained,
19:28basically,
19:28that we want this land,
19:30Palestine,
19:31but the people there
19:31don't want us.
19:32And people who live
19:34in a land
19:34are naturally going
19:35to defend it
19:35from foreign invaders.
19:36And Jabotinsky
19:37believed so much
19:38in the cause of Zionism
19:40that he was willing
19:40to fight
19:41and to,
19:41you know,
19:42ethnically cleanse,
19:43which is exactly
19:43what happened.
19:44And I wonder,
19:44though,
19:45you know,
19:45for Jews like my
19:46great-grandfather,
19:47did he even know
19:47that there were already
19:48Arabs in Palestine?
19:49Because if you're,
19:50you know,
19:50a Jewish person
19:51in Eastern Europe
19:51at the time,
19:53I think you have
19:54limited access
19:55to information.
19:56And at the time,
19:57you know,
19:57facing persecution
19:58even before the Holocaust,
20:00but certainly during it,
20:01obviously,
20:02the appeal
20:02of a Jewish national home
20:04is that much stronger,
20:04someplace to protect you.
20:05I understand it.
20:06But I just wonder
20:07about so many Jews
20:08from that period,
20:08whether they even knew,
20:10like Jabotinsky did,
20:11that there were
20:12already Arabs there.
20:13And I suspect that,
20:14you know,
20:15I like to hope at least
20:16that if they did know
20:17that they wouldn't
20:18have supported
20:19the colonizing project
20:21that Zionism has become.
20:24How'd you find out
20:24about your grandfather?
20:27My great-grandfather.
20:28This was your great-grandfather.
20:29How'd you find out
20:30about him?
20:31Well,
20:32you know,
20:32so it's a long story,
20:34but, you know,
20:35he was killed
20:36in the concentration camps.
20:39And he was a physician
20:40like my father is.
20:41And when he got there,
20:43we know this from a survivor
20:44who witnessed all this.
20:46When he got to the camps,
20:48one of the first questions
20:49they asked is,
20:50are there any doctors here?
20:50Because we're going to give you
20:51a position treating,
20:52you know,
20:53your fellow
20:54concentration camp prisoners.
20:56And so my great-grandfather
20:58put up his hand
20:59and the doctors,
21:00of course,
21:01were among the first people
21:02that the Nazis exterminated
21:03because they didn't want
21:03any doctors around
21:05to help keep people alive.
21:06So we know that story
21:08from someone
21:08who witnessed this.
21:10And we know
21:11that he was friends
21:11with Jabotinsky
21:12because of people
21:14who survived
21:15from that time.
21:16And also,
21:16I mean,
21:16I actually owe
21:18my existence,
21:19quite possibly,
21:21to Jabotinsky's movement,
21:22Beitar.
21:23Because when my father,
21:25Gabor,
21:25was an infant,
21:26the Jews of Budapest
21:29were in the Jewish ghetto
21:31and conditions there
21:33were very tough.
21:34So my grandmother,
21:36Judy,
21:36took my father,
21:37Gabor,
21:37to the Swiss-protected glass house,
21:39which was a place of refuge
21:41in Budapest
21:43for Hungarian Jews.
21:45And at first,
21:45it was so overcrowded
21:46that she wasn't let in.
21:48But when people
21:49from Beitar,
21:49which is Jabotinsky's movement,
21:51found out that my grandmother
21:52was there with my father,
21:53who was then an infant,
21:54they actually got her in.
21:55So it's quite possible
21:55I wouldn't be alive
21:57if not for Beitar.
21:58And funnily enough,
21:59Beitar just called,
22:01just issued a statement
22:02of, you know,
22:03enemy Jews.
22:04And I'm on that list
22:05saying that we shouldn't
22:06be allowed back into Israel.
22:08Oh my God.
22:08You can't make this,
22:10you can't make this stuff up.
22:12So there's a historical irony.
22:13You know,
22:13they saved,
22:14that movement,
22:16you know,
22:16saved my father
22:17quite probably
22:19from the Nazi genocide.
22:20But today,
22:21we're on opposing sides
22:22of the current genocide.
22:23Do you think Donald Trump
22:24understands any
22:25of this history?
22:28You know the man,
22:29Judge.
22:29I mean,
22:30he's made some
22:31fair-minded statements
22:32in the past
22:32about Palestine.
22:33I recall him saying
22:34that it was Netanyahu
22:35who didn't want to deal,
22:37not Abbas.
22:38So that shows to me
22:39he has the capacity
22:40to be somewhat
22:42objective on this.
22:42But if you look
22:43at his statements now,
22:44I mean,
22:44with Netanyahu,
22:46he basically,
22:47Trump endorsed
22:48the extremist Israeli view
22:50that Israel should never
22:51have withdrawn
22:52its illegal settlers
22:53from the Gaza Strip.
22:55He said that,
22:56you know,
22:56Israel owned
22:56the Gaza Strip.
22:57Right,
22:58right.
22:58That was ridiculous
22:59when he said that.
23:00Yeah.
23:01And if he was referring
23:03to they should never
23:04have withdrawn,
23:05he articulated it
23:07in a way
23:07that made him
23:08sound like a dope.
23:09Yeah.
23:11Yeah.
23:11I mean,
23:11but you know him,
23:12Judge.
23:12I mean,
23:13I love to hear
23:13your insight on this.
23:14Like,
23:14what do you think
23:15is going on?
23:15I have never discussed
23:16this issue with him
23:18and he deeply
23:21and profoundly frustrates me
23:23because of the assaults
23:24on civil liberties,
23:25particularly free speech
23:27and due process.
23:28I pull my hair out,
23:31particularly where I work
23:32during the day
23:33where his behavior
23:35is viewed more charitably
23:38than those of us
23:40who believe
23:40that the Constitution
23:41means what it says
23:42would view it.
23:43But I have not discussed
23:45these things
23:45with him.
23:47I've been told
23:47by people who know him
23:49that he has a personal
23:50real dislike of war,
23:53that actually
23:53he doesn't like war
23:55and he...
23:55Why does he stop
23:56these two wars?
23:57He could call up
23:58Netanyahu tonight.
24:00I know.
24:01I know.
24:01I know.
24:03Listen,
24:03in that statement
24:05that you and I
24:05have viewed
24:06where he's standing
24:07in...
24:08Well,
24:08Chris Rundit
24:09where he's in
24:10Air Force One
24:13on Sunday night
24:14saying this is
24:15Joe Biden's war.
24:18Do you have a reaction
24:19to Russia's
24:20poem,
24:20Sunday attack?
24:21I think it was terrible
24:22and I was told
24:23they made a mistake.
24:25But I think
24:25it's a horrible thing.
24:27I think the whole war
24:28is a horrible thing.
24:29I think the war is...
24:30For that war
24:31to have started
24:32is an abuse
24:34of power.
24:35You said they made a...
24:36You were told
24:36they made a mistake.
24:37Do you mean
24:38it was unintentional?
24:38They made a mistake.
24:39I believe it was...
24:40Look,
24:41you're going to ask them.
24:42This is Biden's war.
24:44This is not my war.
24:45I've been here
24:45for a very short
24:46period of time.
24:47This is a war
24:48that was under Biden.
24:50He gave him
24:51billions and billions
24:52of dollars.
24:53He should have
24:54never allowed...
24:55If he had any
24:55brain,
24:57which he didn't have
24:58and doesn't have
24:58and now it's being proven,
25:00he wouldn't have
25:01allowed that war
25:01to start.
25:02I would have
25:02absolutely not...
25:04That war would
25:04never have taken place.
25:06But remember this.
25:07This is Biden's war.
25:09I'm just trying
25:10to get it stopped
25:10so that we can
25:12save a lot of lives.
25:13They happen to be
25:13Ukrainian and
25:14Russian lives.
25:16But all I want to do
25:18is get it stopped.
25:20It's his war now,
25:21isn't it?
25:23Exactly.
25:24Exactly.
25:24I mean,
25:24he's making all fair points
25:26and that would be fair
25:27if he wasn't in government
25:28right now.
25:28But he happens to be
25:29not only in government
25:30but the president
25:30of the United States.
25:32So he speaks
25:33as if he's powerless.
25:34I think what he's
25:35basically saying there,
25:35I think that statement
25:37is a reflection
25:38of his own frustration
25:39having a divided cabinet
25:40and he doesn't really know
25:42how to manage that.
25:45He's got people telling him
25:46don't listen to Steve Wyckoff,
25:48don't listen to Putin,
25:49keep this war going.
25:51And he's got Wyckoff
25:52flying over to Russia
25:53having a nice meeting
25:53with Putin
25:54and Wyckoff is saying,
25:55yeah,
25:55I think we can make
25:56a deal with this guy.
25:57And Trump doesn't quite know
25:58yet what he wants to do
25:59because it will cost him
26:01to make a peace deal.
26:03He's going to get
26:03a lot of heat
26:04from not only members
26:06of his own cabinet
26:06but the bipartisan
26:08uniparty in Washington.
26:10And he's,
26:11I think he's kicking
26:11the can down the road.
26:12He just doesn't want
26:13to spend the political capital
26:14on making peace
26:16because that's difficult.
26:18So I think
26:18what you're hearing there
26:19is his frustration
26:20and blaming Biden
26:21is a very convenient foil.
26:23Yeah.
26:24Yeah.
26:25One last
26:26clip for you.
26:30The new,
26:31but she's just reprehensible,
26:35the new State Department
26:36spokesperson,
26:37Tammy Bruce.
26:39Here's her latest nonsense.
26:41Number 18.
26:41These are people
26:42who are the best in the world.
26:43Ambassador Wyckoff
26:44clearly is one
26:45of the best people
26:46in the world
26:46for negotiating
26:47and for dealing
26:48with bad actors
26:49and getting peace
26:51and ceasefires.
26:53Did I miss something?
26:55Was Wyckoff
26:56nominated by Trump
26:58and confirmed
26:59by the Senate
26:59or did they just give him
27:01the honorary title
27:02of ambassador?
27:03Well, listen, Judge,
27:04I'm glad he's flying
27:05around the world
27:06and not Marco Rubio.
27:07He does seem
27:08to be relatively,
27:10compared to everybody else,
27:11fair-minded
27:11and trying to get a deal.
27:13He got a ceasefire deal
27:15in Gaza,
27:15which he simply,
27:17unfortunately,
27:18walked away from.
27:19There was recently
27:19an account in
27:20the New York Times
27:21that basically talks
27:21about how
27:22Trump's hostage envoy,
27:25Adam Boehler,
27:25made good progress
27:26with Hamas.
27:27He met with Hamas.
27:28They had long talks.
27:29They talked about
27:30not only this current crisis,
27:32but the overall
27:32Israel-Palestine conflict,
27:33which is what
27:34we want to have happen
27:35if we want to resolve
27:36conflicts as we speak
27:37to adversaries.
27:39But Israel
27:39sabotaged the agreement.
27:41They especially sabotaged it
27:43because Boehler
27:43was getting close
27:44to a deal
27:44to free Adon Alexander,
27:47the Israeli-American.
27:48And Trump wanted
27:49to have him freed
27:49as a win
27:50to the American people
27:51to say,
27:51look,
27:51I got this American freed.
27:53And when Netanyahu
27:54got wind of that,
27:55he basically blew up the talks.
27:57And unfortunately,
27:58Steve Wyckoff,
27:59he knows all this,
28:00but he let that happen
28:01and has gone along with it.
28:03And that's just too bad.
28:05I hope he won't walk away
28:06from his own achievements
28:07when it comes to
28:07making peace with Russia.
28:08I wish he would apply
28:09the same energy
28:12to Gaza as well
28:13because Gaza is a,
28:16you know,
28:16at least the people
28:16of Ukraine have an army.
28:19People of Gaza just,
28:21it's,
28:21they're defenseless
28:22and they're just,
28:23every day there's
28:23a new atrocity.
28:24I have the same hopes
28:26you do,
28:26but I will add one more.
28:29That Max Blumenthal
28:30starts showing up
28:31at the State Department
28:32briefing
28:33so he can really
28:34interrogate her.
28:35Yeah.
28:36Yes,
28:37that'd be great.
28:37I second that.
28:38I wonder if they'll
28:39let him back in
28:40after his last trip
28:41at the State Department.
28:42Oh,
28:42that's right.
28:43He's probably on
28:43some kind of a list.
28:45Him and I forget it.
28:46Was it Samuel Arion?
28:47I forget it.
28:49Sam Husseini,
28:49yeah.
28:50Yeah,
28:50Sam Husseini.
28:52Aaron,
28:53a pleasure.
28:54Very touching,
28:55the story about
28:55your great-grandfather
28:56and a pleasure
28:57to chat with you.
28:58Thank you very much,
28:59my dear friend.
29:00Look forward to
29:00seeing you again soon.
29:01From one genocide
29:02to another,
29:03unfortunately,
29:03we're currently living
29:04through one right now.
29:05Thank you,
29:06Judge,
29:06for having me.
29:07Of course.
29:08Wonderful,
29:09wonderful human being.
29:10Coming up at 3 o'clock
29:12on all of this,
29:14Phil Giraldi,
29:15Judge Napolitano
29:16for Judging Freedom.
29:35We'll see you next time.
29:46We'll see you next time.
29:47We'll see you next time.
29:47We'll see you next time.
29:48We'll see you next time.