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00:00I can make it better in two soundbites, two soundbites.
00:05First of all, I don't know how many of you were paying attention, but the general manager
00:11of the 49ers goes by the name of John Lynch, he told you, he told you three weeks ago that
00:20this is what they were going to do.
00:22I think since Kyle and I've been here, we've been certainly a top five, I believe number
00:27two cash spending team, you know, in the last five years, I think we're, or four years
00:32going into the fourth year, I think we're the fourth highest cash spending team.
00:35So we're at some point you have to reset a little bit or at least recalibrate, you can't
00:40just keep pressing the pedal.
00:42And I think there's some good that can come out of we need to get younger.
00:45You know, I think we're the oldest team in football, trying to make a run at the deal
00:49last year.
00:50And I think it's good to constantly get younger.
00:52Our draft class last year was a great move towards that.
00:55We'll have four picks in the top 100.
00:57If the comp picks happen, like we see it, that's always a calculation, you know, we'll
01:02have 10 picks overall.
01:04And we're excited about adding more youth to a great core of players that we already
01:08have.
01:09So like, you don't have to agree with it anymore than you did yesterday or today or whatever.
01:17But I don't think here's kind of what I mean.
01:21I don't think the Niners are like getting beat to a bunch of people this week.
01:25I don't I don't think that they want to be signing the people that they have not signed
01:29this week.
01:30That's fair to say.
01:31But you know, and I don't want to get into this like, well, then who do they have in
01:36their place?
01:37And you'll say, we don't know yet.
01:38And I'll say, well, what we have is not good enough.
01:40And you'll say, we don't know what they have.
01:42It's March.
01:43And so we don't have to do that dance.
01:44All I know is that what they've done in the past is spend a lot of money.
01:49And what they've done in the past is win a lot of games.
01:51And so one six and 11 year is now making you realize, we're old and we spend a lot of money.
01:58We spend a lot of cash.
01:59So now we have to reset.
02:01And anytime you're in the front office and you use an R word, reset, rebuild, reload,
02:07recalibrate, recalibrate, regress, they're all bad.
02:10How about another R word, which is remember, you're misremembering.
02:14The 49ers have not always spent tons of cash and gone to the Super Bowl.
02:20That's really a function of the last two and a half seasons or more.
02:24They went to a Super Bowl out of the gate before people thought they were going to get
02:27there.
02:28And they weren't doing that yet.
02:29And here is the second sound clip, ladies and gentlemen, in Rappaport about the 49ers.
02:34I'm sure their fans are going crazy.
02:36I'm sure.
02:37But this is what really good teams should do, right?
02:39You should let guys who are looking for third contracts or guys who you can't afford to
02:43pay leave and you draft and develop behind them.
02:47That's what, for the Patriots for years did that.
02:49The Ravens do it, Steelers do it, the Chiefs certainly do it.
02:54The really good teams can let their big ticket free agents go, knowing that they have the
02:58confidence in the personnel department to draft behind them.
03:01Okay.
03:02That was abrupt.
03:03A little bit of an abrupt ending there, but anyway, you get the idea.
03:08If you do look at the history of the league and the teams that have built themselves a
03:12little bit of a resume and a reputation, a couple more R words there, this is what
03:18you have to do.
03:19I'm not going to argue with you about whether or not it's scary.
03:22That's the word I used a week ago.
03:24It's a little scary.
03:25I don't love it when teams come out and start talking about money with their fans.
03:30That's not fun.
03:31And largely fans do not want to hear it.
03:33They do not want to hear that you want to save money.
03:37Nobody wants to hear it.
03:38But it is funny.
03:39It is funny that we will sit there and we will get very upset about inflated, bad contracts
03:48that you quote, shouldn't sign.
03:50And then when you sit out the first day of free agency, Tim Kawakami's words moments
03:54ago, first day of free agency, most deals are bad.
03:58Not all.
03:59Most.
04:00That's where the mistakes usually happen.
04:02And then we get mad when they're not involved in that.
04:05Like maybe, give you another R word, maybe the Niners are being responsible right now.
04:10Maybe this is a great thing that's happening right now.
04:13Or maybe they're looking at another R word, which is a regression.
04:17Because to just automatically say, well, I mean, Kansas City just replaced guys in draft.
04:22Let's go back not one draft, but two drafts and look what the 49ers did.
04:27And you look at Jake Moody and Cameron Latu and Daryl Lutter and Robert Beal and Braden
04:33Willis and Ronnie Bell.
04:35That was your draft, which was really, really bad.
04:38Jair Brown, I left out because I don't know what he is.
04:42Not great.
04:43I'm looking at nine.
04:45Not great, Bob.
04:46I'm looking at nine picks and I look at Moody.
04:50Nobody wants him around.
04:51Latu never played.
04:53Lutter, no.
04:54Beal, no.
04:55Winters, is he going to replace Greenlaw?
04:56Well, and you're actually underselling how bad it was because the first round pick was
05:01gone.
05:02Exactly.
05:03Because his name was Tre'Lea.
05:04Exactly.
05:05Automatically.
05:06Oh, 2024.
05:07No.
05:08Amazeballs.
05:09They're going to do it again.
05:10No.
05:11No.
05:12Automatic.
05:13No.
05:14Well, that's what that second soundbite that was supposed to make me feel good was centered
05:15around.
05:16Well, but the draft hasn't happened yet.
05:18Is it going to be two years ago or last year?
05:20I don't know.
05:21But that's the, I think the point he's making is this is the job of a team.
05:26This is always the job of an NFL team.
05:29And so we're uncomfortable with something happening right now that quite frankly is inevitable
05:36and probably the right process if they hit on it.
05:40And that's why I'm saying.
05:41It's a big if.
05:42Well, let me, but that's, again, that's what you do.
05:46Here's what I would say to you, Dibbs.
05:48The bottom line is to do it the other way I know is a mistake.
05:54This at least opens you up for maybe you hit on the picks.
05:59Maybe you do find some found money in free agency day two, three, four, and, and maybe
06:05that goes well.
06:06But like, for instance, I didn't do it because today was a little bit of a crazy day.
06:12But my guys who run that station out in Wisconsin, they texted yesterday, they're like, can you
06:16come on the show?
06:17The Mason Crosby, the former kicker.
06:20Oh yeah.
06:21Can you come on the show to talk about Aaron Banks?
06:23Do you want to know what I would have said if I had done the interview?
06:26Dude, you guys get snooker.
06:28Mm.
06:29Yeah.
06:30Seventy seven million dollars.
06:33It doesn't matter.
06:34The money.
06:35Of course it does.
06:36All that matters is, is he a good player?
06:38If you can afford it and then even that is debatable.
06:42Well, then the Niners got snookered over Debo Samuel, Brandon Iuke.
06:47Oh, I mean, Brandon, Iuke, he's played three and a half games or five games since he signed
06:54him.
06:56But Debo Samuel, you gave him a fresh deal and fresh money and then now you traded him
06:59for a fifth round pick and you had to eat 30 million.
07:01Yeah.
07:02But you got snookered.
07:03Debo Samuel was a wonderful 49er for a long time.
07:06Not during the restructure.
07:07But that's when you got, that's when you got snookered.
07:09That was like $2 in NFL terms.
07:12It was 30 million of a cap hit.
07:13So no, that's an accelerated, it was already going to be 15, they just moved it to one
07:18year.
07:19The initial contract, I don't, I would argue because they gave him a new contract and.
07:23And went to a Superbowl.
07:24And you traded him now.
07:25And it came within a breath of winning it.
07:27You got rid of him.
07:28I mean, Debo.
07:29And Trent Williams, you gave him new money and now he played about half a year.
07:32So if you want to talk about getting snookered, we can go through all the snookerings because
07:38the 49ers have gotten snookered themselves.
07:40Who hasn't, Debs?
07:42That's the point.
07:43So for you to.
07:44That's not the point.
07:45For you to threaten to go on Green Bay Radio and say they got snookered, he might be an
07:47all pro.
07:48You don't know that.
07:49What?
07:50Okay.
07:51You're going to go on Green Bay Radio and preemptively say that Aaron Banks is not going
07:55to be that good.
07:56Because he's never been.
07:57Because he's never been.
07:58Well, does that mean he can't be?
07:59Is he allowed to be good?
08:00You're going to tell me that in year five, he's suddenly going to become someone he never
08:03has been?
08:04He's been a good player.
08:05Jalen Moore doesn't even start and the Chiefs are giving him 15 million a year to protect
08:11Mahomes' blindside?
08:12You're telling me that that's a good deal?
08:14Are you saying that a player in a new system, in a new circumstance can't be better?
08:18Are you saying that you should be taking chances like that with your money when you've
08:23already been the top cash spending team for a number of years in the NFL?
08:28That's exactly what I'm saying.
08:30As opposed to, let's draft Drake Jackson, Ty Davis-Price, Danny Gray, Samuel Womack.
08:37He's such a cherry picker.
08:38I'm just going back.
08:39He's such a cherry picker.
08:40I'm going draft by draft.
08:41I gave you last draft, and then I gave you the draft before, and now I'm going the draft
08:45before that, and I haven't even gotten a Brock Purdy.
08:49If I had a dollar for every bad draft pick that every time you mention it, I could retire.
08:55Okay.
08:56You never bring up the hits.
08:57I always do.
08:58You never do.
08:59False.
09:00You never do.
09:01We're just going back in time right now, and I just gave you last year's draft where they
09:03had six or seven hits, and I named them.
09:07I put their names out there.
09:08I gave it to you, and then I did the year before, and you and I both agreed it was a
09:12disaster, and the year before that, I'm just looking at it.
09:15I don't have it all committed to memory.
09:17I'm not Joe Schaske.
09:18I don't memorize all this stuff.
09:20I have to look it up, and I look at Nick Zichal and Kalia Davis, who's actually now back with
09:25the team, Tariq Castrofields, and then a guy named Brock Purdy was the saving grace in
09:31the whole draft, so you get mega points for that, but by and large, your drafts have been
09:36really bad in the last three years.
09:40We can go back four years.
09:41Except for they nailed last year, so not the last three years.
09:44Okay, so two of the last three.
09:45Okay.
09:46Okay.
09:47So if you're just automatically going to say, I have faith in these guys to just find seven
09:52guys this year to plug and play.
09:53You didn't say that.
09:54You literally started the show by saying, I'm going to give them the benefit of the
09:56doubt for now.
09:57And I said at the start of the show that I'm not going to give them the benefit of the
10:01doubt for this very reason.
10:02That's fine, but that's not even necessarily about the process that they're using.
10:07I don't think you can categorically say that the 49ers have totally messed this thing up
10:13yet when you're staring at a roster and we don't even know who's on it yet.
10:17That's all I'm saying.
10:18I'm not saying it's a hit.
10:20I'm not saying it's right.
10:21I'm saying that the final answer is not here yet.
10:24So in this moment, the discussion to have is whether or not you've given the benefit
10:28of the doubt.
10:29You say no.
10:30Right.
10:31I say, yes, that's fine.
10:32But I'd argue that when you, the reason you're saying no is because you go back in time and
10:37you only pick out all the things they've done wrong.
10:41The other thing, the other truth is, is that this is a regime that has been to two Super
10:45Bowls in six years and is loaded with draft picks that they've wanted to re-sign.
10:52Of course, every team screws up picks.
10:56It's a total inexact science.
10:58I mean, you could do what you're doing right now to any football team, even the best.
11:03Well, let's go to the 2021 draft and that's the Trey Lance one.
11:07And we're going to put that aside because we've all ad nauseum acknowledged what a debacle
11:11that was.
11:12Aaron Banks in the second round.
11:14You didn't re-sign him.
11:16Trey Sermon in the third round.
11:18He was no good.
11:19Jalen Moore in the fifth.
11:20But you want to.
11:21I do want to.
11:22But they don't.
11:23So you want to talk about process versus results?
11:24Wow.
11:25Draft, develop, and keep.
11:27They drafted and maybe they didn't develop, but they didn't keep.
11:31Diamondore Lenoir in the fifth.
11:33Awesome.
11:34Hufanga in the fifth.
11:35Well, you didn't keep him.
11:36Elijah Mitchell in the sixth.
11:38But you wanted to.
11:39I mean, Hufanga?
11:40Sure.
11:41At a lower price?
11:42Elijah Mitchell?
11:43Do you see what I'm saying?
11:44Do you see what I'm saying?
11:45No, I don't.
11:46I'm not cherry picking.
11:47You are.
11:48Well, if you just listen, I'll tell you.
11:49I am listening.
11:50If you just take a playoff and listen, what I'm telling you is you drafted all these players
11:53who are good enough to get contracts elsewhere, but you decided that you didn't want to give
11:57them new contracts.
11:58So then you're going to say that they're bad picks, even though you think that they should
12:01get $77 million.
12:02What I'm saying is your process is flawed.
12:04Why did you keep Diamond or Lenoir?
12:06Because he's really good.
12:07Because you signed him five months ago, and you got ahead of it.
12:11If he would have gone to free agency now, he would have been a lot more money.
12:14He's so much better than the other players you're talking about.
12:17I disagree.
12:18Oh, God.
12:19Well, other teams are valuing these players at a level that you could have.
12:24Are you telling me you couldn't have signed Aaron Banks five months ago to half of what
12:28he got yesterday?
12:29Aaron Banks.
12:30Right.
12:31You could have.
12:32That's not good.
12:33End of sentence.
12:34Yep.
12:35That's not what Green Bay thinks.
12:36A team that's better than you right now.
12:40Oh, they are?
12:41They went further than the playoffs than you last year, did they not?
12:43Yes, they did.
12:44So there you go.
12:45Okay.
12:46So that's the end of that.
12:47Well, I mean, right now, is all I said, Green Bay was better than you last year.
12:51Yes.
12:52And you beat them in the playoffs the year before that.
12:53Yep.
12:54That was a couple of years ago.
12:55Yeah.
12:56And so, I mean, last year, they were better than you.
12:58They're trending upward, and they think that Aaron Banks is probably pretty good.
13:02So they signed him.
13:03And I think they're wrong.
13:04I think it's an absolutely absurd contract for a player who did not perform last year
13:09by data and opinion.
13:10My only point in this is that we look at draft classes, and we can look at Ty Davis Price.
13:17Fine.
13:18He was a miss, and nobody else signed him.
13:20That's a miss.
13:21But when you have Banks and Moore and Hufanga and Mitchell, and they all eventually go elsewhere,
13:28that, to me, is a question mark because, you know, for whatever reasons, Hufanga was
13:32hurt.
13:33Mitchell was hurt.
13:34You signed Lenore early because you think he's amazing, and he probably is really, really
13:37good.
13:38Way better player than any of these guys.
13:39Yeah.
13:40You signed him early, and yet, Banks was able to go out there, and Jalen Moore, a guy you
13:44spent fifth-round capital on, and you decided that you didn't want to sign him.
13:48Yeah.
13:49It's an interesting philosophy that it seems like you're throwing out there, which is if
13:52someone else wants him, you should, too.
13:54Like, I don't care if somebody else wants him.
13:57Somebody else might be in a completely different situation.
13:59They might be.
14:00They might be mis-evaluating, which would be a mis-evaluation sensation.
14:03It would be.
14:04That's a bug.
14:05They might be over-valuing.
14:07They might be stuck in the mud based on positional need.
14:10I have no idea.
14:11I am not an expert on the Green Bay Packers.
14:14I can tell you that if their GM was sitting in front of me, I'd be like, dude, what the
14:17hell are you doing?
14:20What do you see in Aaron Banks that no one else saw?
14:24Aaron Banks was objectively not very good last year.
14:28And their offensive line, collectively, was not very good last year.
14:32So to start throwing massive dollars at underperforming pieces and position groups, to me, is crazy.
14:40I just don't know why you would do that.
14:41I just don't know why we would look at a team that drafts, and when you draft well, and
14:48you have players that you have for three and four years, why wouldn't you look to sign
14:52them early and keep them, as opposed to...
14:55Because they're not good.
14:56Well, and that's your opinion, and it might be their opinion, too.
14:59And I look forward this year to seeing Jalen Moore on a team that is really, really good
15:04every single year, and now he's playing left tackle to protect Patrick Mahomes.
15:07Does Kansas City think he's pretty good?
15:09I don't know.
15:10They must.
15:11I'm sure that he's going to be fine, but it's not even just a matter of, like, do they stink
15:15or are they good?
15:16It's a matter of what it costs you.
15:20There's no way, in my mind, that Banks plays up to that number.
15:24It doesn't mean he's the worst player in the world, but that number is completely out of
15:29control.
15:31And I promise you, if the Niners had done that, I and many others would be right here
15:36on these microphones to criticize that deal.
15:39I bet you would, too.
15:40No, no chance.
15:41Why?
15:42Because I like Aaron Banks.
15:43You do?
15:44I do.
15:45What do you love about him?
15:46I like that he's got some size, and I like that he's a good run blocker.
15:50I like that he's a road grader, and whether or not last year was a down year, you could
15:54look at the entire team, and it's not always as simple as, you know, they can't run...
15:58That's not very convincing.
15:59Okay.
16:00What do you love about the player?
16:02Never mind.
16:03I like his feet, Mark.
16:04I like his footwork, Mark.
16:05I like his hand placement when he pulls.
16:06Let's go to J.T.
16:07Just because you can't run the ball doesn't mean that the offensive line is necessarily
16:13to blame.
16:14What's up, J.T.?
16:15How you doing?
16:16Oh, my ears are hurting.
16:17I can't take this no more.
16:18Yeah, save us, J.T.
16:19Well, my thing is, I mean, we've been horrible.
16:20My thing is, are these guys working from home, or are they actually going out and looking
16:21at people that tell me that they're good enough for the NFL?
16:22I have not...
16:23I can't think on top of my head when we had a good draft year.
16:24How many times have we missed on wide receivers?
16:25You've got to be kidding me.
16:26J.T., you don't think last year was a good draft?
16:27Well, you know, because Birdie, I mean, not only did he have a good draft year, but he
16:28had a bad draft year.
16:29He had a bad draft year.
16:30He had a bad draft year.
16:31He had a bad draft year.
16:32He had a bad draft year.
16:33He had a bad draft year.
16:34He had a bad draft year.
16:35I look at how many times we've put in for receivers.
16:59How many times have we had busts from those receivers?
17:01How long have we waited to have a number one receiver?
17:04That would be the question.
17:05Before you'd go, well, Terrell Owens, that was a long time ago.
17:08No, I mean, if you want to play this, J.T., I mean, the numbers that IUK put up two years
17:13ago are commensurate with number one receivers.
17:17That was two years ago.
17:18I know that the story has changed a thousand different ways, but prior to last season,
17:23people were pretty stoked on the Brandon IUK pick.
17:27One year, one...
17:28I mean, honestly, he had one good year, solid, great year.
17:31We paid him for that, right?
17:32So what did you have before that?
17:34A couple thousand yard seasons, Debo Samuel, that's a hit, Juwan Jennings, that's a hit,
17:40I like Ricky Pearsall, it's largely a wide receiver room that's been homegrown, no, J.T.?
17:45No, but you can't say, no, there's no way that my boy was a wide receiver, he was a
17:50running back.
17:51Who?
17:52He was great, and they gave him a little 10-yard Debo.
17:57Three years ago, he caught 1,300 yards, caught, J.T.
18:03Again, I'm not here to tell you the Niners nail every pick, but my goodness, we get real
18:09selective with this.