"Why do these people always tease the same things that cause chaos." Dr. Afnanullah's sarcasm on PTI
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00:00As a government, we have engaged in this.
00:03Will you only use the stick?
00:06No, we are not dependent on the stick.
00:09We have engaged in this.
00:11In fact, if you remember, when they were coming to Islamabad, Maharang, etc.,
00:14we said that they should be allowed to come here.
00:17At that time, we did not say anything to them.
00:20See, political people cannot be against political movements.
00:25The thing is, why do these people in Pakistan always go and do things that are causing a ruckus?
00:33My question is very simple.
00:35Tell me some constructive work that they have done.
00:38Why don't you address those things that are causing a ruckus?
00:41Why don't you address those things that are causing a ruckus?
00:44See, in Pakistan, the question is, is this attitude correct?
00:48If someone does political activism on an unpopular issue,
00:52then you can put that person in the account of terrorism.
00:56There is one person who is a missing person,
00:59there is one person who is affected, there is one person who speaks on that issue.
01:02There is a difference between that terrorist and that political activist.
01:05I am not talking about Maharang.
01:07Don't make political activism a terrorism.
01:10No, I don't think you should make it a terrorism.
01:13You are making it a terrorism.
01:15The thing is, will you tell me if they have done any constructive work?
01:20Forget about the development project.
01:23I am not talking about the development project.
01:25I am talking about what they have done for the democracy of this country.
01:28For me, it was very easy.
01:30When we were sitting in the show,
01:32I would take out four statements from one person and four from you,
01:35and you would take out your swords.
01:37Everyone would say, this is a great show.
01:39I have taken two very serious issues.
01:41One is the issue of Balochistan.
01:43One is the issue of KP, in which KP's government can change.
01:46One is the issue of Balochistan, in which Balochistan's identity can change.
01:49It is very important how the government treats these people,
01:52and how you treat these people,
01:54and how the state looks at both of you.
01:57If anyone does any political activism in this,
02:00then this country will lose its color.
02:02I am telling you that this is political activism that they are trying to do.
02:06Otherwise, you can tell me if there is any work
02:09that benefits the country.
02:11They don't let the SCO conference happen.
02:13They don't let anyone come from outside.
02:15They try to ruin the Champions Trophy.
02:17They write a letter to the IMF.
02:19After that, people who have this track record,
02:21on 26th November and 9th May,
02:23they are going to meet Maharang for the benefit of the country.
02:26So you tell me, who will believe this?
02:28Who will believe this?
02:30Those who brought back 40,000 Taliban,
02:32and destroyed the security of the entire country,
02:34they are saying, we are very worried about Balochistan.
02:37Weren't you worried for four years when you were there?
02:39You are saying the same thing.
02:41You supported what I said.
02:43You said that he is an unpopular political activist.
02:46His viewpoint may be closer to that of the BLA.
02:50But if you are saying that if you talk to him,
02:52then you are working against the country.
02:54I am worried about this thought.
02:56I am not a fan of Maharang and her supporters.
03:00But I am talking to the country based on your pre-judged decisions.
03:05But I am saying that if someone says that we don't believe in Pakistan,
03:08and we want to break Pakistan,
03:11and there is a separatist movement,
03:13in which many innocent people have been massacred,
03:16and there is no doubt about it,
03:18and someone supports it,
03:20and they are promoting it.
03:22If they go and promote it, then how can I support it?
03:24You can take the BLA commanders,
03:26and give them weapons,
03:28and get them to negotiate.
03:30Look, the thing is,
03:32neither does he have a ministerial position,
03:34nor does he have a big presence there.
03:36He had a dream one day,
03:38that today we will do it in Sindh,
03:40and we will do it in Balochistan as well.
03:42And after that, listen to my request.
03:44It is their country, they can go wherever they want.
03:46It is their country, I am not saying that we should not spread discrimination.
03:48The thing is, they say that there is no government control in Sibbi and Bolan.
03:52The national highway passes through there.
03:54If there was no control, then how would the national highway pass through there?
03:56If it had been closed today, then the national highway would have passed through there.
03:58There is no other opinion on this,
04:00that right now in Sibbi and Bolan,
04:02everything in Balochistan, after Assar,
04:04you cannot travel.
04:06I met that person,
04:08he was a newbie,
04:10he used to work for a few lakhs.
04:12I simply asked him, what happened?
04:14He said that he checked his ID card,
04:16and he did it.
04:18Very unfortunate.
04:20But there is one more question.
04:22The local population has a big role.
04:24Do you remember the unfortunate incident of Bannu?
04:26The people of Bannu came out on the streets.
04:28Even we were not able to control it.
04:30Ali Ameen Gandapur tried his level best to control the people.
04:32What did the people say?
04:34When your local population
04:36has its own mind frame,
04:38you cannot start.
04:40The problem is that in KPK, in some districts,
04:42and in Balochistan, in the majorities,
04:44the local people have made up their minds.
04:46I am telling you.
04:48Let Gandapur get some time first.
04:50Listen to me.
04:52The people of Gandapur cannot be controlled
04:54because they are always
04:56trying to stop Kamran Bangis.
04:58They are always trying to stop Taimur Jagda.
05:00If this is the mindset,
05:02this is the mindset
05:04that you do not accept
05:06the rationality of the issue.
05:08When did I say that?
05:10And you blamed us for everything.
05:12Because Asad Qaisar has done it
05:14by doing a press conference.
05:16We are highlighting the issue.
05:18You have to find a solution.
05:20And if the state does not realize it today,
05:22there is traffic on the Kurram road.
05:24Half an hour of traffic.
05:26Two hours of firing.
05:28Then half an hour of traffic.
05:30This is their doing.
05:32They are saying that there is no control there.
05:34Neither should the train pass from there
05:36nor should the traffic pass from there.
05:38You are saying that Balochistan is peaceful.
05:40No, I am not saying that.
05:42I myself went to Balochistan a month ago.
05:44I went to Quetta.
05:46And I was not outside the camp.
05:48You were alone.
05:50I had another senator with me.
05:52And a driver and a guard.
05:54I was not inside the camp.
05:56I was outside the camp.
05:58I was outside the camp.
06:00I was not a little outside the camp.
06:02The thing is that
06:04these things will continue to happen.
06:06We have run out of time.