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00:00Mir sahib, tell me one thing, on one hand, there is a demand that we need freedom.
00:05The secessionist groups say that we will free Balochistan.
00:08That is one extreme.
00:10On the other hand, you say that whatever slogan you put up, we will crush it.
00:14Absolutely right, that will be an extreme reaction.
00:18If I ask you what you can offer in a dialogue,
00:22because as the General said,
00:24that the weapons will be thrown, then,
00:26he read the verse, then we can talk to them.
00:29But to come to that step,
00:31something will be seen, right?
00:33Tell me, what is on offer right now?
00:35I genuinely want to understand.
00:37What is the offer?
00:39This cannot be the offer that you throw weapons and then we will talk.
00:43No, no.
00:45Because there is one core group,
00:47those who are taking money from India,
00:49those who are taking money from the other Gulf states,
00:51you will have to kill them.
00:53That is a small percentage.
00:55The problem is that the problem has been mislead.
01:00Look, there are two things.
01:02One is those who you are calling violent.
01:05The other is those who are our students,
01:07our teachers, our intellectuals,
01:09our nationalists.
01:11Their integration towards the state of Pakistan is very important.
01:14That has happened through dialogue.
01:16Now we are doing that dialogue.
01:18I am going to the universities, I am meeting the children,
01:20children come to meet me,
01:22youth come, we are promoting meritocracy.
01:24So that that group,
01:26which has gone into the popular narrative,
01:28can be reintegrated with the state.
01:30That is our dialogue.
01:32This is a daily dialogue.
01:34It is not like a person is standing there,
01:36you go and talk to him and tell him.
01:38What is there to offer?
01:40Look, our nationalist politics,
01:42when it started in the 70s or before that,
01:44they were asking about the provincial autonomy.
01:46Now, provincial autonomy,
01:48after the 18th amendment,
01:50their demands, if you read old newspapers,
01:52if you see old statements,
01:54provinces have got it after the 18th amendment.
01:56Yes, dialogue can be done
01:58on how to do the next election reforms.
02:00Dialogue can be done
02:02on fair and free elections.
02:04Now, in free and fair elections,
02:06it should also be that those people,
02:08for example,
02:10I will give you an example.
02:12We had a candidate in the south.
02:14He was under so many threats
02:16to give his manifesto
02:18to his campaign
02:20He was under so many threats
02:22that he could not go.
02:24He was under the threat
02:26that the separatists would kill him.
02:28So, was it free and fair
02:30that when we could not give him
02:32this opportunity,
02:34the state or the government
02:36convinced their voters.
02:38So, it is a very tricky subject.
02:40I think that the state or the government
02:42should pay the most attention
02:44to their youth.
02:46The youth need to engage
02:48in meritocracy and baritocracy.