Why didn't nationalist issues arise during PTI's government?
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00:00Mr. Abhishek, you tell us, what dangerous games are you playing?
00:04There is a serious need in KP, big operations are happening every day.
00:09That day I saw that a young, handsome lieutenant is being martyred.
00:13Young men are being martyred. Everything is happening.
00:16Your politics is not ending, dear Ismail Khan, who is your Chief Minister.
00:21You will now play another game with the Nationalists.
00:24Didn't you remember the Nationalists before?
00:26They were beating their problems for six months.
00:29When it comes to your politics, they say you might be ready to sleep with the devil also.
00:34This game that you are playing with the Nationalists in Balochistan.
00:38I will not say Nationalists, I will say separatists.
00:41Baloch separatists, Sindh separatists.
00:44If you ignore all these things with narrow political gains,
00:49then you will give more importance to those statements,
00:53where the state thinks that you can do anything for political interests.
00:57I seek refuge with Allah from the accursed Satan.
00:59First of all, I appreciate that you mentioned Ali Amin,
01:03where Senator Afnan said that at least now the state acknowledges that the bullet was fired.
01:08Now see where the detainment is. Who said the bullet was fired?
01:11I didn't say that.
01:12No, I didn't say that.
01:13No, I didn't say that.
01:14Who said the bullet was fired?
01:15Who said the bullet was fired?
01:16Who said the bullet was fired?
01:17No, we brought the 14 dead bodies in front of us.
01:19Shahfiq Lund, Malik Idrees of Dera Ghazi Khan are present in front of us.
01:22The statements of their families, their bullets, their steps.
01:26So that is still there.
01:27Secondly, when we were young in the 90s,
01:30we were told that Altaf Hussain is a bad man.
01:33And we all thought that he is going against the big state.
01:36Malik Sahib, the heart of the state is very big.
01:38If someone in the state is doing something like this,
01:41they have to listen to it.
01:42When Maharang Baloch came here,
01:44I used to think what this woman is doing.
01:46Ultimately, when I heard her speech,
01:48to which she was saying,
01:49if you can determine whether a person is dead or alive,
01:54then at least we will have patience.
01:55You just have to listen to what they have to say.
01:58So why didn't you listen to them when you were in the government for 4 years?
02:05Then why didn't you hear the voices of Balochistan?
02:07In your opinion, how did the peace come in Balochistan at that time?
02:11We were talking.
02:12Khan Sahib was the first person who said,
02:14you need to engage them.
02:15We are the government who said that there can be no operation in KP.
02:19You need to talk to the people.
02:21Who told you to talk to the Taliban?
02:23It was not easy to talk to them.
02:24Because all your border districts are Pashtun.
02:26You are putting all the blame on yourself.
02:27You have brought it and resettled it.
02:28You are putting the blame on yourself.
02:29We have settled it.
02:30So the issue is,
02:31wasn't the state involved at that time?
02:34Was it asked from us?
02:35The big influx that was coming,
02:37a small government of KPK was deciding.
02:39All the stakeholders were present.
02:41When you take credit,
02:43When you take credit,
02:44When you take credit,
02:47then you have to bear the burden.
02:48On one hand you say,
02:49we talked,
02:50we negotiated everything.
02:52When it comes to the fallout,
02:53you say,
02:54we didn't do it,
02:55the intelligence agency did it.
02:56There is no such issue.
02:57We are doing it.
02:58When did I say that?
02:59We said,
03:00we want you to engage.
03:01Even then you were engaging.
03:02Even today you are telling us to engage.
03:03You said,
03:04separatists from Sindh.
03:05The biggest issue in Pakistan is that
03:07everyone hates Punjab.
03:09Do you remember?
03:10Do you remember?
03:11There were two people.
03:12No, no.
03:13I will remind you of two names.
03:14Ali Wazir was there.
03:15Mohsin Dawar was there.
03:16Yes.
03:17What did you do in your time?
03:19How much did you fight?
03:21No, no.
03:22Leave the what aboutism.
03:24What did you do with those two?
03:26If you had so many dialogues,
03:28and if you were taking decisions,
03:29and you were doing it,
03:30what did you do with those two?
03:32In our government,
03:33those two people definitely came as MNAs.
03:35In your opinion,
03:36if there were so many opponents,
03:37and the system was with us,
03:38could those two MNAs have come?
03:39What did you do with them?
03:40What did you do?
03:41I tell people even today,
03:42that Ali Wazir's production order
03:43should have been issued.
03:44It should have been issued even then.
03:46Those who are not issuing
03:47the production order for Ijaz-14 today,
03:48they are doing the same thing.
03:49They were saying the same thing to us.
03:50When they are in the opposition,
03:51they say very good things.
03:52When they are in the government,
03:53they also bring pekka,
03:54they also put ragda,
03:55they leave it.
03:56I am asking you about the government.
03:58I will make an argument.
04:00Right now,
04:01hatred against Punjab is increasing.
04:03Everywhere,
04:04in Balochistan,
04:05Sindh and KP.
04:06Believe me,
04:07what happened with KP in the last two years,
04:09racial profiling in Islamabad,
04:11hatred is increasing.
04:12Similarly,
04:13the bus incident in Balochistan,
04:14four days ago,
04:15was removed.
04:16It is wrong.
04:17Everything is wrong.
04:18But somewhere,
04:19you have to address it.
04:20How will you address it?
04:21There are only two ways.
04:22Either you will engage,
04:23or you will do the operation.
04:24For the operation,
04:25right now,
04:26the situation in Balochistan,
04:27if it is that easy,
04:28then the provincial government
04:29is with you.
04:30We can go against you,
04:31we can go against you,
04:32we can go against you,
04:33we can go against you,
04:34we can go against you,
04:35we can go against you,
04:36we can go against you,
04:37we can go against you,
04:38we can go against you,
04:39we can go against you,
04:40we can go against you,
04:41we can go against you,
04:42we can go against you,
04:43we can go against you,
04:44we can go against you,
04:45we can go against you,
04:46we can go against you,
04:47we can go against you.
04:48Attract our charges.
04:49I can't see.
04:50The local warlords
04:51of Unntal Annals,
04:52local population,
04:53should become sensitive
04:54towards the issue.
04:55The problem is
04:56that Islamabad has no credit.
04:57No one is listening to them.
04:58What our army is
04:59waiting for,
05:00is rhetoric.
05:01The world should be
05:02sold and look at
05:03what is happening
05:04with us.
05:05It is on the belt
05:06that Afghanistan is
05:07united with.
05:08When the world
05:09has the ucresy.
05:10But won't the people
05:11sitting in Islamabad
05:12as the ones here
05:13can they garner their
05:14own respect?
05:15I remember when Quram started and we started programming on it, we used to say that there is sectarianism and terrorism in it.
05:23Your KPK government used to say, no, no, no, it's just a fight for land in two tribes.
05:27Now the same Ali Ibn Ghadapur says, yes, this is a 103-year-old fight.
05:31It's not just this, there is sectarianism in it, there is international funding and financing in it.
05:37They've jumped at it.
05:38Whatever the government is, whether it's yours or theirs, it seems like someone has raised a kalma that no, we don't want to speak the truth.
05:43Initially, when the issue of Quram came up, we said that it was a sensitive issue.
05:49But to talk about it publicly on national TV was a bit sensitive.
05:53So maybe that's why the government...